2010Dec23 - Howard Griswold Conference Call

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Howard Griswold Conference CallThursday, December 23, 2010Partial

Howard Griswold Conference calls:218-844-3388 pin 966771# (6 mutes & un-mutes),

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Theres very few people in this country that are putting out information that I can eitheragree with or rave about. Mickey Paoletta and his debt collection knowledge andinformation that hes given people to avoid debts, I can rave about Mickey. Mickey sticksright to the law and he does great. And I think David Clarence has to the extent of the lawthat they understood he has stuck right to the law. He is only promoting what the law says.

Hes not coming up with a bunch of who struck John bull crap like some of these otherones with their things like accepted for value which Ive preached against ever since theycame out with that because that is wrong, that will not work. There is law that shows why.Ive expressed that law. But there are tons of other things. I dont want to pick on any oneparticular person but this bull crap about the flag that was brought out, all this bull crap thatfloats around the patriot community about punctuation and putting commas and semi-colons and crap like that around your name, this is all bull crap. None of this is backed upby the law. As a matter of fact, I think it was last week, if not, it was the week before I readto you the Delaware State Code law related to the requirements for the name of acorporation and it said, with or without punctuation. Punctuation is not importantalthough some clowns might think so and the more education you have in English grammar

the more you would think it was important but the fact is in law its not important. Allkinds of crap like that floats around this country but nobodys found what its really allabout. Nobody has really addressed the factual issues of this government but I havebrought up in the past and I didnt realize how important this was until David Clarencebrought this stuff out about removing the executor and then I realized how important whatwe had found in a case calledJersey City v. Hague. In that case the Supreme Court of theState of New Jersey espoused that all government personnel, officers and employees or allparts of government, are at all times in a trust position. And as such the court saidand Irepeat jokinglythat they have a fiduciary duty to act with good faith, honesty andintegrity. I still, even though I had read that and Ive quoted it many times and Ive alwayssaidI sort of got a chuckle about it because Ive never seen government act with goodfaith or in a high level of honesty and integrity much less any level of honesty, not in mysixty-seven years. And in our research we found out why, because they pushed throughCongress rather fraudulently if you read the history of it the 13 th, 14th and 15th Amendmentmost importantly the 14thwhich created the presumption that each and every one of usare residents of the government. They dont mean that youre a resident living on a piece ofland somewhere in a territory known as Pennsylvania, known as California, known asFlorida, known as Minnesota, thats not what they mean. Now, I think I covered the foursides of the state just now. What they mean is that you are a resident agent of the politicalcommunity and by such authority presumably from the 14th Amendment all governmentnow has the right to regulate everything that you do because youre part of them. Theconcept of liberty and private property was completely done away with by that act. Andlook at the life were living. Look at what goes on around us. Look how they tell us what todo. {a typical failing ofall governments} Now theyre going to tell us that we cant growour own food, that we have to participate in commerce in order to get food, that we have tojoin a health care program and put up with their drug business and use their damned drugshell no. I dont agree with any of this and I think quite a few Americans dont agree withit. Now, Im sure theres quite a few who do. Theyll be dead too before long and probablyfrom a bullet, not from the food supply or the drugs because the drugs and the food supplywill kill you slowly. Bullets kill you quickly. And when this breaks loose some of these


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morons who think everything government does is wonderful, well take the governmentsside and thats a very small number in comparison to the ones that are so upset and they toowill get killed. So, like I said, theres going to be a lot of blood shed over this if we cantstop this. Now, understanding that government is in a trust position the Constitution beingthe laws that regulate this trust whether it be the state constitution in the local stateand

you can go after your state officials for this, you can go after police officers for this, youcan go after the lawyers for this, you can go after judges for this, you can go after any oneof them if you learn and understand this stuff about trusts.Now, the first part about the trust that is most important is the part about the rights andpowers of a trustee in the management of property. Its the powers, duties and liabilities oftrustees in general. Now, what Im going to quote from here comes out of Corpus JurisSecundum, book number 90. If any of you can get your hands on this make your ownphotocopies of this and study it, take it home from the library. Im going to post all this onpeople_looking_for_the_truth (yahoo group) as soon as I get finished deleting a lot of crapthat people have stuck on there that I wouldnt want there because it isnt the truth. Weshould have never, ever set that thing up allowing people to post information on it. That

was a mistake. Were going to correct it. There will be no posting from now on by anybodyat all without it being authorized by me. I hate this idea. Im becoming a dictator and I seeit necessary. As a matter of fact, Im very seriously thinking of the idea of running fordictator in 2012 against whoever runs for president. I think it will be an earthshakingexperience for the American people. Itll be the first time since 1789 that theyve actuallyhad a choice of whether they could elect a Democratic communist, a Republicancommunist or a dictator. So far, all theyve been able to do is elect communists. I wouldntbe a communist dictator. I would return the principles established in this country under theConstitution of liberty and private property to the people and power to the peoplethemselves, not power to the government. I think it would be an interesting challenge whenI do this.But anyway, lets get into this stuff on the rights and powers of a trustee becausegovernment is in a trust position at all times and the rights and powers according to CorpusJuris (Secundum) of a trustee depend on the nature of the trust itself, its validity and theenforceability of the trust, the terms of the trust instrument and the purpose and object forwhich the trust was created. Now, keep this in mind because the purpose and object forwhich the trust of the United States government was created was the principles and purposeof the Constitution. If they are not abiding by the principles and purpose of the Constitutionand they are passing laws that are adverse to or in conflict with the purpose of theConstitution then these buggers are in breach of the public trust and should be removedfrom life, not just office, but execution. I like the idea of Noriega becoming a dictator andexecuting people. I just hope that he does it the right way. Anyway, make me a dictator andI will execute all lawyers and drug pushing doctors to start with and I will adviseeverybody thats employed in any government office in Washington, D.C. around Januarythe first of 2013 that they are to vacate the office. If they are still in office when I get thereon January the twentieth to take over in 2013 they will be rounded up and executed. Imsure a lot of people are not going to like that idea but I dont care. It will create enough of adisturbance in the minds of people to wake them up to this trust position of government.They are not to be trusted.


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[Dave] It was representative Mike Sinar versus, Boucher was the head of the GAO,Government Accounting Office and they were trying to pass the Graham, Rudman,Hollings Act to cut the bad budget across the board by ten percent and then thecongressmen could say, well, its out of our handsthe nasty old government accountingoffice did it and we have no control over them because theyre an executive agency and

were just poor legislators because thebastards did not want to face their constituentswhen the GAO had to close all these airbases and military bases and navy dockyards sothey wanted to blame the GAO under this Graham, Rudman, Hollings Act andrepresentative Mike Sinar went to court against Boucher being the head of the GAO at thatpoint in time and the United States Supreme Court said, Congress being a legislativebranch agency does not have authority to delegate away to an executive branch such as theGAO a constitutionally mandated responsibility. So if they do not have it in the case ofbalancing the budget and passing the buck to the GAO they by the same token do not haveit to pass the Federal Reserve Act and delegate away the constitutionally mandatedresponsibility to coin the money and regulate the value there of. The Federal Reserve Act isunconstitutional and always was.

[Howard] They would also be third persons.

[Dave] But none of these states have the guts to do it and none of the state attorneygenerals who start live to finish the job or they get unelected or fired or pass to theeternities.

[Howard] You explained it better than I can, Dave. Thank you. The Supreme Courthad upheld exactly that limited authority of government and particularly the Congress thatthey cannot give away their constitutionally mandated authorities that the trust instrument,being the Constitution, limited them to certain authorities and gave them certain authorityand they couldnt give them to somebody elseno third persons outside. Well, look howmany things in government have been turned into privately owned enterprises like theUnited States Post Office. Today, the United States Post Office is not the United StatesPost Office. It is the United States Postal Service and its not the United States Post Office.It was supposed to be under the control of Congress. Theyre now privately owned.Theyve delegated that authority away.

[Dave] Its been privatized.

[Howard] Yep. Now, how many other things do you think theyve privatized?

[Dave] And none of them have any full force and effect regulations promulgatedand in compliance with Congress mandates. None of them.

[Howard] Thats rightwell, thats why. Thats why they dont because they donthave any authority to be doing what theyre doing in the first place. Thats why theres nopromulgating authority in the regulations because they have no right to write regulations.

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[Howard] Thats right, they cant exist. They dont have any authority to do whattheyre doing at all. So without authority They put themselves in a terribly dangerousposition by doing these kinds of things and individuals that go to work there put themselvesin a very dangerous position because of the anger and frustration of the American people

that is developing because of the wrongs that theyre doing to us. This is what I would liketo prevent. We can do two different things. We can follow the concept that David Clarencehas put together of removing the executor and remove the trustee. We can start out byremoving the United States government officials and their employees as trustees over meindividuallyyou individuallyand the state government officers and employees astrustees over you or me individually and the county, town or city governmental personnelof officers and employees as trustees. I think we need to go a lot further than DavidClarence has brought up. I think what David Clarence has brought up is phenomenal. Ithink hes gone in the right direction. I just think we need to go further. I think we need toremove them as trustees. Thats one act. The other act is we can file lawsuits. Now, dontthink youre going to get any money out of this. The whole money system is collapsing.

Youre not ever going to collect. Youre going to spend your time doing this and getnothing back for your time. Youre doing this because you care about America, you careabout your fellow Americans, you care about yourself. Thats the only reasons youregoing to be doing this because, for one thing, they can drag these cases out for two, three,four, five, six years. We dont have that much time in this money system. Youre going tosee it collapse sometime in the next two years. I think mathematically that it will be aroundthe end of November, beginning of December in the year 2012, mathematicallythatswhat it looks like. Thats just a mathematical equation that works it out that way. Thats nota for sure by any stretch of the imagination because when you plot what they call curvesits based on present information and present trends and projects the future. Thats not100% reliable. It gives you a pretty good idea though. So if Im off it could be July of 2012it might happen sooneror it could be June of 2013. It could happen a little bit later. Butthe interesting thing is that those kinds of graphs and the plotting of that type ofinformation gives you a pretty good outlook of whats coming. And its coming. Now, wecould even be so wrong that they might prop things up, artificially support things and carrythis thing all the way into 2014. I dont know. But it seems that the artificial props that theyhave applied to boost it back up have collapsed rather quickly {surprised?} in the veryrecent history. You look at the market and what its done. There are props thrown out hereand the market goes up 200 points today, 150 points tomorrow, 100 points the next day andthe next day its down 250 points because the prop failed that quickly. Look back at therecent market for the last two years, the props are failing. That indicates that in the futureno matter what kind of a prop they come up with including what I just read to you, this ideathat theyre going to take over the issuing of currency by the states and the Supreme Courtaway from the government and the Federal Reserve, thats not going to work. Thats just aprop because they still dont have value behind the money. Theyre just going to issue anew currency and claim that its stronger and better than the Federal Reserve currency wasand its still going to be the same thing as a Federal Reserve note, not redeemable inanything of value. So this is still a breach of the trust. Its not going to solve the problemand its still not going to be in line with the Constitutional mandates of value behind themoney. Gold and silver was the value. It doesnt have to be gold and silver. Gold and silver


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represents real value but so does the corn we grow, the wheat we grow, the wood we havegrowing in this country. They can be used for firewood or it can be used for buildingmaterial. That has value. Anything like that could be the substance that would be used toback the currency but if its not backed by something like that {how about honesty?Believe it or not it has happened in history but was somewhat short lived. We need to go

back to a variation of tally sticks or maybe cutting off hands again} and its still just ablank piece of paper its a breach of the public trust. They are not doing what their trusteeduties are doing. They are operating beyond their rights and powers as a trustee and thatmeans that theyre in breach of the trust. Now, this section that Im reading to youI onlyread part of itis about the trust and the powers of a trustee. There is another section backhere, several pages further back that starts an article called the duties of a trustee. And as Ibegan reading that I laid it down. I said, if this is going to take some time and I thumbedthrough it to see where it ended and it looks like its about 40 pages long on the duties of atrustee and I guarantee you from the first page and a half that I read that we can start outimmediately figuring out breaches of their duty as trustees. Now, let me go just one stepfurther in explaining why David Clarences instrument that hes generated doing away with

the executor fails to follow procedure as correctly as it should. Now, Im telling you I likewhat hes done. Im not trying to knock the man. Hes really opened my mind up to someof the stuff that we have researched and I have copies of all kinds of stuff about the trusthere. And hes opened my mind up to how it should be used but as I was reading this: inorder to remove the trustee, the executor trustee, administrator trustee, guardian trustee,

warden trustee, well, any one of them thats in a trustee position you must identify thebreach of the trust by the trustee. He didnt really do that in his executor removal letter thathe put together and I see that in the near future these powers-to-be will get their headstogether and they will say, well, he didnt follow the right form and he didnt follow theright procedure so we dont have to pay any attention to this and although for a little whilewhat hes done is going to work its going to fall part shortly. It needs to be boosted up alittle bit. Ive asked for him to get in touch with me. {I dont believe he will and I havegood evidence that he wont.} I want to help him to put what weve found together withwhat hes doing. I dont want to take credit and I dont think he wants to take credit. Hedoesnt seem to be that kind of a person. Its not a matter of taking credit. Its a matter ofhelping people in finding what the law really says and going as far as we can go withsomething like this and we can go a lot further than just removal of the executor of the trustproperty because hes right. They are holding us and our property as an estate becauseweve given them the property. Griswold has talked about this for years. As a matter offact, I think I brought this up way back in the early nineties. I tried to insult the hell out ofthe American people. I told them theyre the nicest people on the face of the earth. Noother country of people have ever given everything they own to their government as wehave done. Were a little bit stupid but we certainly are nice people. I hoped I insulted themby calling them stupid. Well, it didnt seem to work {it didnt seem to work because juststupid was a step up.} You ever heard the expression, you cant insult me Im too ignorant.I think thats what fits. That they dont know, education hasnt taught us enough to evenunderstand private property. {Theyve created Wreckefeller idiot savants.} Ive had peoplecall me up and ask me how do I know if its private property. I thought, my God, I didntthink people were that stupid. I understood private property. Maybe it was because mygrandfather explained a little bit of it to me though because I thought back about it and


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school never brought this up at all. {the teachers didnt understand it eithertheyve beendumbing people down ever since the Civil War. } School never taught me the differencebetween government, public property and private property. They never brought it up. So,no wonder most people dont understand this. But your private property cannot beinfringed upon in any way, shape of form by government. They had to right to walk in on

that mans piece of land and tell him he had to burn his wheat but they got away with it,didnt they? {He didnt say, show me where I agreed to it. He gave tacit consent by notobjecting to it.} Because lawyers stand behind this kind of stuff. Lawyers push this kind ofcrap. They even word things the wrong way and twist the Supreme Court of the UnitedStates and sometime back in the seventies I recall a television program of some kind thatwas on where they were interviewing one of the Supreme Court justices. I dont rememberwhich one it was. But he made a comment that a lot of bad decisions come out of theSupreme Court of the United States because the lawyers are incompetent to word thingsproperly. Interesting statement, wasnt it. Yes, if its approached in the wrong way andworded the wrong way you will get a wrong decision out of the court because the problemthat the court has is it has to remain ignorant. It cannot apply anything that is not brought

before it. If the arguments that are brought before it are not even in line with the law theyhave to make some legal conclusion related to it and make a decision on it. It may well be awrong decision and that Supreme Court justice admitted that many a wrong decision hadbeen made simply because the lawyers dont bring it properly. Now, whats that tell us.That tells us that the burden falls back upon us, the people, to do something and do itcorrectly. Youre not going to get lawyers to do it. Understanding this stuff about trustswill be critically important. If you can get to a library and look up Corpus Juris Secundum,book 90, on trusts you can get started on this a little bit quicker. Its going to take me awhile to get this posted on people_looking_for_the_truth. And in order to get onpeople_looking_for_the_truth you have to just petition to be a member. Theres no price oranything to pay. You dont have to do anything special to be a member. You just petition.Its just a yahoo group site. So you got to go on yahoo groups and look up or punch inpeople_looking_for_the_truth . It should come up. I dont know that much about what youdo to get on things like that. Im not a computer person. I dont even want to be. But forthose who are, I will put this on. For those who dont have a computer {and theyre thelucky ones} if youll write to Gemini Investments at Post Office Box 398, Delmar,Delaware 11940. Send a couple of bucks and send more than two or three because this isquite a few pagesitll cost me more than two or three dollars to duplicate all this stuff ontrusts for you and send me a couple of bucks to cover my printing and mailing costs.Mailing costs for something like this will probably be four or five dollars in regular mailbecause its a good bit. Well mail you copies of this if you ask for it. But please try tosupport our costs by sending more than just two or three dollars for this much stuff becausethis is quite a bit of information. Ill be reading different parts of it on some of themeanings in the conference calls in the near future particularly getting into the duties of atrustee. Not the rights, because these rights were very limited in that explanation but thenext section is duties of a trustee and that really gets limited, puts the nail in their coffin forthe kinds of things theyve been getting away with doing. I have not yet found a form forcreating a breach of trust case but I think its very similar to a breach of contract case andIve got a form for breach of contract. If you can back this up with documentary evidenceof things that they have done to you there is no way that they can come back with an


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answer. You will win by default. Now, whether youll ever collect any money or not, thatsa different story. But I think if we start going after them for this I said twenty-five yearsago that one of these days you wont be able to buy an airline ticket to get out of thecountry to go visit neighbors or friends or a family or something in foreign countries thatyou might want to visit because all the lawyers and politicians have bought up all the

tickets because theyre leaving. You start going after them for breach of the public trust andthat just might happen. You wont be able to get an airline ticket. The airlines will bebooked for weeks getting all these criminals out of this country because theyll knowtheyve been caught.Anyway, let me go on with a little bit with some more of what this talks about. I got acouple of things underlined here and Ill read those sentences.And when the trustee conforms with the provisions of the trust instrument in their truespirit and meaning he may adopt such measures and do such acts as are imperial in his

general discretion and are proper and reasonable means for making them effectual but

broadly speaking consent by the beneficiary cannot enlarge nor can objections limit the

powers of the trustee.

Now, whats been going on in this country? People are protesting, people are refusing topay income taxes. Theres a big protest movement of taxpayersits been going on foryears in the countryvery ineffective because their objections cannot limit the powers ofthe trustee. Their consent cannot extend the powers of the trustee. Thats very important torealize even if we have stupidly gone along with some of the things that theyre doingthats wrong that did not legally establish their right to continue doing the wrong.But our objections dont limit their powers as a trustee. So the beneficiaries waiver of the

right to object to a breach of the trust does not enlarge the powers of a trustee, it says. In

some circumstances, however, a beneficiary by his conduct may create an estoppel to

question the powers of the trustee. If a trustee exceeds his powers his acts are a nullity andin the absence of other considerations are ordinarily without force and effect and acts

done in contravention of the trust are not authorized by statute are void. A trustee who has

been guilty of an internal fault is entitled to his locus poenitentiae and any opportunity torepair the wrong he committed. I skimmed right over that part before. Maybe thats why Iskimmed over because you got to give him a chance to correct the wrong. Weve beenworking on writing up a waiver of their breach. Well waive it and forget it if theyllcorrect it but if they wont then were going to sue them for breach. Anyway, it goes on tosay:Those who deal with trusteeswhich means anybody in governmentare presumed to doso with notice of the legal limitations of the trustees power and when they go outside of

such power they do so at their own risk.

The trustee goes outside of his power at his own risk. You can hold these people personallyliable. You dont sue the government. Thats a mistake that is made in a lot of these civilrights casessue the state. You cant sue the state, the states a fiction, it doesnt exist. Thestate didnt do anything wrong. The federal government doesnt do anything wrong. Itspeople in government that do things that are wrong and they are in the trust position andyou have to sue them. And the way to sue them, it appears from what Im finding here, isfor breach of trust. What theyve done is not within the confines of their limited authority.A couple paragraphs down theres another interesting statement:


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And where the trust estate has vested in the beneficiary thereof with the limitations of the

trust the trustee has no further interest and he may not determine or control the manner in

which the beneficiary should deal with the estate vested in him. A trustee under a trustcreated by contract between the grantor and the grantee has no personal contractual right

to keep the trust alive.

In other words, you can terminate the whole trust if you want to. Im not sure the Americanpeople would be quite ready to terminate the Constitution and that is the trust document.

[Dave] What was the second word of that locuswhat?

[Howard] Wait until I go find that again. I think that it was on that page before. Locuspoenitentiae.

[Dave] Im looking in Blacks Fifth.

[Howard] Hes entitled to thiswhatever this meansand an opportunity to repair

the wrong he committed so thats why we have to give them a waiver of breach of the trustin advance and if they dont correct the breach of the trust and stop doing the wrong thattheyre doing such as a police officer writing a traffic ticket to a private personsautomobile or the IRS imposing a tax on a private worker that doesnt have a privilegefrom government to work such as a liquor license or a drug license or a gun license or agovernment job itself or a corporate privilege granted to him to operate a business. Otherthan those things, its a breach of the trust to impose these taxes on the common workingman like me. Im just a common working man. I didnt ask government for any of thoseprivileges.

[Dave] I found it (Locus poenitentiae) in Blacks Fifth:A place for repentance; anopportunity for changing ones mind; an opportunity to undo what one has done; a chance

to withdraw from a contemplated bargain or contract before it results in a definitecontractual liability. A right to withdraw from an incompleted transaction. Morris v.Johnson 219 Ga. 81, 132 S.E. 2d 45,51.Also used of a chance afforded to a person by thecircumstances of relinquishing the intention which he has formed to commit a crime beforethe perpetration thereof.Blacks 5th, page 848, left hand column, bottom left.

[Howard] Thats only righteous and decent to give somebody a chance to correct thewrong that theyve done. I agree with that and I think what we should do is we should writea Notice of Waiver of Breach to each and every person in Congress, in both sides of it, theHouse and the Senate.

[Dave] The Bible calls it an opportunity to repent.

[Howard] We will waive the breach that they have done of at least these two lawsright now and just see how far we can get with this, the law requiring everybody inAmerica to have health insurance and all the other foolishness thats in that law aboutkilling people that are over 65 years of age and not worth anything to society anymore.Thats all in that law in case you dont know it. And then this new thing that apparently just


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went through in the last couple of days of preventing you from being able to grow yourown food and just threaten them with a suit for breach of their fiduciary and trust duty tothe trust document called the Constitution and the protection of our property. And if youdont correct this wrong that youve done we will sue you and somebodys going to have tofollow through and sue them. If we dont have the guts in America to stand up and do these

kinds of things then America should go down and it will. {Eg.: America will close due to alack of interest. Note that the Roman Empire (the first modern nation) terminated due to asimilar attitude and in addition to nutty policies of their governmental officials. After awhile they depended on mercenaries to fight their battles and also their financial systembecame dependent on robbing other nationsthat gave out finally. The people had turnedfrom being Spartans to being wimps on the dole with their bread and circuses. Does thissound familiar?}

[Tom] This is Tom Murphy. Im sorry, Ive just been listening in. Im totallyintrigued by what youre saying and I agree with you 100%. They need to be led.

[Howard] They need to be sued. You need to take everything they got away fromthem.

[Tom] Im talking about the people. Thats the primary interest is the people andwe need the people.

[Howard] Oh, ok, yes, youre right, the primarypeople. Youre right, the problem isthey need to be led and theyre too stupid to even pick a leader. Lets see what happens in2012 when I blast this all over the country that Im running for dictator. {the entrencheddictators will probably get nervous}. The hell with this president crap, do away with it, nomore democracy, no more Democrats and Republican communists. Elect me a dictator andIll put things back the way they were supposed to be. {Didnt that happen in pre-WWIISpain, ie Franco? } Lets see what they do.

[Tom] We basically have that organized already but its not a dictator. Its aNational Standards Enforcement Agency and its established de jure agency, totally, toprovide oversight of government performance. So were already established. We have it allready to go. Wed welcome your participation.

[Dave] The American Communist Lawyers Union already has control.

[Howard] As long as you let me be the dictator of it. Im telling you Im going to takeover as dictator. Im going to take total control of this.{02:42:09.532}...[Howard] Call me or contact Gemini Investments. Give me a contact number and Illcall you. Im more than willing to talk to people about ideas.


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[Dave] The American Communist Lawyers Union has been doing it.

[Howard] Thats I want you to elect me as a dictator because only a dictator couldexecute all the lawyers and all the doctors. And that stuff you were reading about the Foodand Drug Administration, thats all doctors and if you get rid of a couple of them other

ones will step up and do the same thing. So you got to get rid of all the drug pushingdoctors.

[caller] Well, why dont we just issue an order rescinding that? We can do thatwithin ten days. Why dont we just execute an order as a third-party intervener and rescindthat?

[Howard] Rescind what?

[caller] Somebody needs to do it. They just made it into law? They just executed it?Theres a certain number of days that you can respond and rescind it. If we can get a copy

of it we just rescind it.

[Howard] You would have to get enough people to do it because, remember, thiswhole concept is a democracy and the democracy works on what they call mob rule. If thebiggest part of the mob agrees with it then everybodys going to suffer with it. If thebiggest part of the mod disagrees with it then it goes away so you would have to get anawful lot of people together in America to send a letter to them telling them

[Tom] Heres my viewpoint on it. All you have to do is get an entity withestablished authority qualified to make that ruling on behalf of the people.

[Howard] Well, thats the US Supreme Court.

[Tom] No, the National Standards Enforcement Agency is that agency and it canact tomorrow.

[Dave] And none of the stuff they pass in Congress applies on the states. It onlyapplies in the fiction District of Columbia and in the corporation state of whatever and inthe two-capital letter fiction abbreviation for the state and in the numerical designationscalled zip zones and live natural people do not live in those fictions. Live natural peoplelive on, not inside fictions, they live on top of actual land, not inside of fictions.

[Tom] The people in general dont know that, they dont have a clue about that, sothey are victims of these stupid laws.

[Howard] Thats why somebodys got to sue these bums for breach of their publictrust and expose this openly.

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[Howard] I got a template for establishing a constructive trust on the estate propertythat theyre holding but I dont have a template yet for breach of the trust.

[Tom] Thats what we have to establish.

[Howard] I think that might be very similar to breach of a contract and I got a templatefor breach of the contract and I think its very similar.

[Tom] Hows it tied in to violation of our constitutional rights?

[Howard] You dont have any constitutional rightswhere do you get that idea?Where do you get the idea that you havelawyers use that term. It was a cover-up thatthey created. People dont have constitutional rights.

[Tom] Really?

[Howard] No, people dont have The government has constitutional rights. Thegovernment was given certain powers and rights by the Constitution and they were givencertain limitations.

[Tom] I think the Constitution is for the government or direct them as to exactlyhow theyre supposed to operate in our interest to serve and protect us, we, the people.

[Howard] You got the idea. Youre absolutely correct. It is for the government. It isnot for us.

[Tom] Thats correct. And so we are guaranteed certain protections and theyre notproviding them.

[Howard] If education only taught people how to read instead of just how topronounce words people might be able to read things and understand them. The beginningof the preamble to the Constitution says, We the People of the United States do ordain thisConstitution for ourselves and our posteritywhich means people who take our place inthe future in government. People do not understand that the United States is not America. Itis a corporation located in Washington, D.C. It was ordained by those people forthemselves, not for the American people. It is their Constitution. As a matter of fact, in1833 there was a court case brought by a guy in Baltimore City, Maryland who owned alittle waterfront property and he had a pier and he had enough depth of the water there forboats to come in, big ships, and load and unload. And Baltimore City government hadacquired some land near him and had done some excavating work and they left the dirtuncovered, no vegetation on it, and they didnt put up any barricades to prevent wash offand apparently there were quite a few storms at that time and the storms washed a lot of thedirt and silt down into the waterfront and it brought the dirt level at the bottom of the waterup so high that he could no longer get ships into his pier so he sued them. The case is calledBarron v. the Mayor and City Council of Baltimore. It went all the way up to the UnitedStates Supreme Court. Now, keep in mind this was in 1833. This was before the 14th


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Amendment was passed which extended the Bill of Rights to the states. That happenedlaterthis was before that. The United States Supreme Court ruled

[Tom] So this is pre-1861?

[Howard] Yes, it was 1833thats pre-1861yes. The Supreme Court rules in thatcase that the Constitution applied to the government that it created and to no one else. Thatcase is calledBarron v. the Mayor and City Council of Baltimore. Its a US Supreme Courtcase and as I recall, it was in 1833. I dont remember the cite to it but the court ruled thatthe Constitution applied to the government that it created and to no one else and he couldnot use the Fifth Amendment to the United States Constitution against the City ofBaltimoreit was inappropriate. Isnt that interesting?

[Tom] So what do have to say about the oath of office, that all public servants, so-called, are supposed to execute

[Howard] They are supposed to take and supposed to abide bywell, the only wayyoure going to get anywhere related to the oath of office is to sue them individually forbreach of the public trust because the authority to do anything about a breach of the oath ofoffice rests with the attorney general of the United States and the attorney general of thestates and hes a scum bag lawyer like all the rest of the scum bags that are lawyers andhes not going to do anything about other government people not taking the oath becausemost of those scum bags either didnt take the oath or they took an oath renouncing all theoaths that they took. Theyre just as damned guilty as anybody else. Theyre not going todo anything the breach of the oath so youre going to have to approach it as a breach of thetrust rather than the oath. Forget the oath. They either didnt take it

[Tom] A breach of public trustso what are the violations, what are the penalties,what statutes defined

[Howard] Well, thats why I just said, if you want copies of this and you dont have acomputer that you can pick it up off people_looking_for_the_truth and write to GeminiInvestments and Ill photocopy it and mail you copies of it.

[Tom] Ill find it, Ill get it.

[Howard] Or you can find it yourself. Im just reading stuff right out of Juris CorpusSecundum, book 90 on trusts, Sectoin 246 and then the duties of a trustee is 247 and thatsreally long, thats like 40 or 50 pages, Im guessing.

[Tom] Its full of violations there. So what would that be, treason, a treasonousact?

[Howard] No, its not treason. Forget this patriot crap. Its not treason, its breach ofthe trust.


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[Tom] Im just going by law, Im going by what case law saysviolation of

[Howard] The law says its breach of trust. It doesnt say anything about treason.Treason is one of the things that the Congress of the United States has the authority tobring charges of treason against somebody. That authority doesnt rest with you and I just

like the authority is with the attorney general to do something about a breach of the oath ofoffice. It is not with you and I. No wonder these patriots that have been bringing this up foryears have never gotten anywhere with it because the attorney general has to carry itthrough. As far as treason goes you got to get Congress to carry it through. Well, theyrethe treasonous people. You think theyre going to accuse somebody of treason? Hell no. Ithink the whole answer rests in the direction that David Clarence has brought us with thisremoval of the executor/trustee or administrator/trustee. Now, see, thats the part he left offthat theyre trustees and removing them as trustees or suing them, which he didnt bring up,for breach of the trust. I was, before he ever came out with this idea of removal which Ithink is great, I was thinking of putting together, and Ive been researching this for months,of putting together a complaint for breach of trust against anybody in government. Start out

with these little peon idiots in clown suits with a badge and a gun called cops and sue themfor breaching the trust by giving you a traffic ticket on your private automobile and goagainst the Department of Motor Vehicles for registering it and classifying it ascommercial property. Go against little things like that. Get started somewhere small. Butwe can go all the way going against Congress and I think its going to have to be donequickly. Go after the cops, go after the lawyers, go after the judges, go after Congress, goafter the state legislators. Every one of them is in breach of trust. Theyre making laws andenforcing these laws that are internally authorized for government to use withingovernment but theyre misrepresenting those laws and applying them out here in privatesociety and breaching the basic concept of the Constitution of a republican form ofgovernment. Now, lets clarify that. The concept of a republican form of government doesnot mean that the government is a Republican form, at all. The government in this countryis a democracy. The republican form of government concept if you go back and read it, itsvery well explained by Madison in Paper No. 39 of the Federalist Papers. MadisonsPaper No. 39 in the Federalist Papers explained that there was two forms of

government, the national and the federal. The national was the people in their private

capacity and the federal was the government in its political capacity. That was theseparation of power which the republican form of government concept is

[Tom] The Clean Water Act are two separate standards of performance. One isnational standard of performance, the other is the federal. The EPA only offered toimplement the federal and, the other is the federal and it just did not pertain to thenational which the National Standards Enforcement Agency has picked up and establishedstandards and regulations, now, to implement enforcement of it and it puts government outof business.

[Howard] Well, we dont want to put the whole government out of business entirelybecause there is a purpose for this government. Read the Preamble to the Constitution, ithas the authority to raise armies and defend this country. It has the authority to regulatecommerce so that commerce continues to flow normally and doesnt impose duties upon


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people that would put commerce out of business which is what theyre doing in the reversetoday.

[Tom] It does not entitle them to participate in commerce and thats what theyhave been doing.

[Howard] Yes, youre right. So, everything that theyre doing, then, becomes a breachof the trust, doesnt it, because the Constitution is the instrument that created the trustposition that they are in. Now, one other thing that I found in reading this stuff. And Ibelieve I found this in Scott on Trusts, Scotts Abridged Law of the Trust. Thats a ratherrenowned book on the law of trusts. Most people depend on that book as guidelines fortrust information and knowledge of the law. And he said that the trust that is createdcontrols and nothing else can get in its way. Nothing else can interfere with it. The trust isall-powerful, it controls. Now, he didnt go into any discussion about the public trust at allbecause hes a lawyer. You wouldnt expect him to do that. He just talked about trusts ingeneral. The concept of a trust requires that the beneficiary be looked out for in all

circumstances, that everything is being done for the benefit of the beneficiary. Well, I haveheard government officials in this country make statements that the American people arethe beneficiaries. Were not being treated as beneficiaries, are we? Were being treated astrust property and theyre investing us in commerce and making us pay the cost of thecommerce. So, in all situations everything that theyre doing is a breach of the trust.Theyre not treating us as the beneficiary. Theyre not protecting my interests. Now, see,this is what the Mafia stood up against for years, but theyll never let you know this. Theyalways made the Mafia look like theyre terrible people.{03:05:05.000}...The Mafia in its original concepts was free enterprise. Dont interfere with my business.Leave me alone. Let me run my business without government interference. Thats what theMafia was really all about. Now, Ill grant you, theres been a big split in the Mafia. Inrecent years since I guess about the 1950s or at least the early sixties the Mafia gotinvolved with the government and the governments drug programs and selling andpromoting drugs. Now, all of it didnt. There was a big split in the Mafia. The good people,the decent people, they still refused to cooperate with government. The believed in freeenterprise and they continued to try to run businesses without government licenses andsuch. The other part of the Mafia joined the government and got into the drug promotionbusiness. So, yeah, theres some really bad Mafia today. They need to be cleaned up, tooalong with the rest of the government. The government is definitely in the drug promotionbusiness. I can show you spots around this country where CIA-owned ships come in atleast a month and in some cases once a week and drop off shiploads of drugs andgovernment law enforcement personnel barricade the area so nobody can get in and seewhats going on.

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[Howard] Yeah, and they unload these shiploads of drugs into trucks and distributethese drugs all over the country and there are big money people involved in paying for thedrugs and then they have little people out on the street pedaling the drugs. Its terrible, thethings that are going on in this country, and government is doing this and getting away withit.

[Dave] And the communist lawyers that run the government are behind it andtheyve sold out the American trust to the United Nations trust.

[Howard] Yep. Well, a lot of this is coming out today in small bits of information,getting around a little bit but guarantee you its going to get to be bigger, bigger and biggerannouncement of these kinds of things that will get out. And I can guarantee you the newsmedia will carry these breach of trust cases when you start filing them and that will help.You sue every senatorwhat is there, a hundred senators, theres fifty states, theres twofor each state so theres a hundred senatorsyou sue every one of those names that aresenators for breach of the public trust because of something that they have passed into law

like this you cant grow your own food in your own yard or this health care bill whichguarantees to cut the cost of health care by killing the elderly and getting rid of them. Idont know if you know about that but thats in the bill that they will assign certain doctorsto determine that youre no longer valuable to society and this doctor will order your deaththats in that health care bill.

[Dave] Theres a taking without just compensation, for sure, taking your life.

[Howard] Yep. Well, actually the requiring if a private individual to record the birthcertificate of their new born child is a taking of the childs body property without justcompensationanother breach of the trust. Anybody thats got a birth certificate that isnta corporation. The only birth certificate that the government can require to be filed is thebirth of a corporation because government is a corporationit only has power to controlcorporations. It doesnt have the power to control natural people. These laws that pretend torequire an individual to have a birth certificate registered are fictitious, theyre not real.

[Tom] They control the hospital.

[Howard] Well, yeah, they do control the hospitals. Thats why all these drug pushingdoctors have to be executed too.

[Dave] None of these agencies have any substantive regulations. The onlyregulations they have are agency internal interpretivethats some lawyers opinioninterpretive regulations.

[Tom] Theyre imposing them on us, we the people, that arent subject to them.Thats the problem.

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touch with me. He tried and I wasnt home the day he called and he hasnt called since.{my info suggests that he isnt going to call}. He needs to get in touch with me. We need toget this thing to go bigger than it ismore involvedthat he understands that every one ofthese positions hes talking about like executor is a trustee position and government isalways in that trustee position including military. Any military person who comes into any

one of the states to do anything except enforce the constitutional limitations on those statesis in breach of the public trust and should be executed and Ive told the military

[caller] Is breach of the public trust a crime?

[Howard] Indeed it is. Sure, because it constitutes theft, the taking of your property.Theft is a crime, isnt it. Execute a thief. Boy, did I get in a whole lot of trouble on TruthRadio one night a couple of weeks ago. Im on www.truthradio.comon a Wednesday nighton a program called Higher Ground Bible College and its run by a Christian preacher and Ireally threw it at them. I said, you people out there that claim to be Christians you cannotbelieve half the story and rebut or refuse to address the rest of the story. Now, the story that

Jesus Christ was hung on a cross tells us that on each side of Jesus they hung a thief. Now,either you believe that whole story or you cant possibly believe part of the story and notthe rest of it. Why in the hell arent we hanging thieves? Well, naturally, the nice preachersaid, you let me do the preaching. But you think about that, how can you believe half ofthe story?

[Tom] Thats the answer I needed right there, thats it.

[Howard] Either we hang these thieves, we execute them and clean this up or wecontinue on living this miserable life of worry and concern about how were going to getby and where were going to get food and how much moneys going to be available to bemade. I make a joke and its partly true. The family always gets together on Thanksgivingand Christmas and New Years and Easter and birthdays and things like that and we gotabout four generations in our family thats still cranking and our family gets together andwe have a nice dinner on those days. We dont do much Christmas crap with a whole lot ofbull shit gifts and stupid things that people dont need and we dont go out running aroundlike nuts buying a whole lot of crap like so many people do so we really dont participate inthis thing called Christmas. But its a nice day to get together and have dinner and when wehave dinner one of us, usually, today, its falling upon me. Im one of the oldest in thefamily other than my mother-in-law, my father-in-laws gone now but he used to do it. Wewould always give our Creator thanks for the wonderful things that Hes given us and oneof them is enough money to buy the bullets to get rid of the people that dont agree with us.We always thank him for that. Thank God for giving us the ability to make enough moneyto buy the bullets so we can rid of the people that dont agree with us. Thats one thing.The other thing, we always thank God for rain because rain makes corn. Corn makewhiskey and whiskey makes everybody happy.

[Tom] Ill tell you, Ill agree to that. Ok, there you go. Thats great.
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[Howard] We dont live exactly the same way as most Americans do. We have notcooperated with government to the full extent that most people do although out of stupidityall of us in the family including my father-in-law he fought in the Second World War. Myfather fought in the Second World War, they really believed at that time that they weredoing the right thing but as they grew older and learned more about what was really going

on in this government they began to realize that what they did was wrong. We had no rightto go over there and interfere in what went on in that country. The Constitution of theUnited States says that the government will create armies to defend this country, not tocreate armies to attack other countries. How many times in the history of this country havewe attacked other countries? There is no authority to do that. Were involved in one rightnow.

[Tom] Rather than protecting and serving us theyre attacking us.

[Howard] Those protestors that chained themselves to the fence around the WhiteHouse in Washington D.C. have no idea what their powers are and what they could really

be doing but they could be suing the Congress of the United States and the President of theUnited States and the past President of the United States personally for getting us involvedin this war because its a breach of the public trust because the document did not authorizethem to attack another country for any reason, only to defend an attack on this countrywhich means they got to come over here with their guns and their tanks and their airplanesand start fighting with us, then we have the power to fight back.

[Tom] I know, but were not in control.

[Howard] Well, we could be in control. The people have the last word. They justarent

[Dave] Not according to the United Nations. According to the United Nationsyoure just cannon fodder.

[Howard] We have the last word and we can throw the United Nations right out of thiscountry too.

[Tom] Exactly what needs to happen.

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My position on going to court has always been: never voluntarily go to court.Live men and women are not meant to be in any place designed solely for thebusiness of fictional entities. When we attend court, we are deemed dead, infact, they cannot deal with us until we admit to being dead. a legal fiction.a trust. Court is for titled persons: judge, prosecutor, defendant, bailiffs,

cops, and attorneys. Live men and women are not recognized, so it makes sense tosend in a dead personan attorneyto handle our cases . except for one thing:they do not know how the system works, due to their indoctrination. If you canfind one to do as you say, then you will prevail, but most of them would ratherhang onto their BAR cards than behave honourably. The only thing that dead,fictional entities want from us is our life energy, and the only way they canget it is by our agreement. Without us, they cannot function, so, they aredesperate to get us into court, to have us pay the debt which they created bycharging the trust.

Since common law courts no longer exist, we know that the case never has

anything to do with facts or live men and women and so, anyone who testifies(talks about the facts of the case) is doomed. ALL courts operate in trust law,based upon ecclesiastical canon law ritualism, superstition, satanism,etc.which manifests as insidious, commercial law and we are in court to takethe hit, if they can get us to do so. They use every trick in thebookintimidation, fear, threat, ridicule, rage, and even recesses, in order tochange the jurisdiction, when they know they are losing, in order to make usadmit that we are the name of the trust. When we do so, we are deemed to be thetrusteethe one liable for administering the trust. Ergo, until now, it hasbeen a waste of our time, energy, and emotion to go to a place where it isalmost certain that we will be stuck with the liability.

We all know from our indoctrination, programming, and schooling that judges areimpartial and have sworn an oath to this effect. This means he must not favoureither plaintiff or defendant. But, our experience reveals that he does, indeed,favour the plaintiff, indicating a glaring conflict of interestthat theprosecutor, judge, and clerk (cleric) all work for the statethe owner of theCQV trust. So, as the case is NOT about justice, it must be aboutadministering a trust. They all represent the trust owned by the state and, ifwe are acting as beneficiary, the only two positions left are Trustee andExecutor. So, if you detect a judges partiality, although I doubt the case willget this far, you might just want to let them know that you know this.

If you consider court as entertainment and if you can stand the evil emanatingfrom its officers, the fear and angst oozing from the walls, and the treacherousatmosphere, then go, knowing that under trust law we cannot be the trustee orthe executor of a trust, whilst being beneficiary, as that would be a conflict.I still recommend having someone go in your place, so that you do not becomeconfused and admit to being the trustee. Whats the worst that can happen toyour representative, when he can prove he is NOT the trust/trustee. (I also


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recommend that we all switch license plates on our cars. That would put an endto the traffic cases.) The position of beneficiary may lack clout, but the otherpositions hold liability. Since state employees want to be the beneficiaries ofthe trust, the only way they can do so is to transfer, to us, the liabilitywhich they hold, as trustees and executors, because they also cannot be both the

administrators and beneficiary of the trust. So, trusteeship and executorship,i.e.: suretyship, becomes a hot potato and everyone wants to toss it so s/he canbe beneficiary of the credit from the trust.

When we were born, a trust, called a Cestui Que Vie Trust (CQV) was set-up,for our benefit. Evidence of this is the birth certificate. But what is thevalue which must be conveyed to the trust, in order to create it? It was ourright to property (via Birth into this world), our body (via the Live BirthRecord), and our souls (via Baptism). Since the state/province which registeredthe trust is the owner, it is also the trustee. the one that administers thetrust. Since they, also, wanted to be beneficiary of this trust, they had to

come up with ways to get us, as beneficiary, to authorize their charging thetrust, allegedly, for our benefit (via our signature on a document: citation,application, etc.), and then, temporarily transfer trusteeship, to us, duringthe brief time that they want to be the beneficiary of a particularconstructive trust.

This means that a trust can be established anywhere, anytime, and the parties ofthe trust are quickly, albeit temporarily, put into place. But, since abeneficiary cannot charge a trustonly a trustee can do soit is the statethat charges the trust, but they do so for their benefit, not ours (albeitoccasionally we do reap some benefit from that charge but nowhere near the valuewhich they reap. Think bank loan.. we reap a minute percentage of what theygain from our authorization). So, the only way, under trust law, for them to beable to charge the trust is to get the authorization from the beneficiaryus,and the only way for them to benefit from their charge is to get us to switchrolesfrom beneficiary to trustee (the one responsible for the accounting), andfor them to switch their rolefrom trustee to beneficiary because no party canbe both, at the same time, i.e.: within the same constructive trust. They mustsomehow trick us into accepting the role of trustee. Why would we do so when thetrust is for our benefit? . and how do they manage to do this?

Well, the best way is to get us into court and trick us into unwittingly doingso. But, if we know what has transpired, prior to our being there, it is easy toknow what to say so that this doesnt happen. The court clerk is the hot shot,even though it appears as if the judge is. The clerk is the trustee for the CQVowned by the state/province and it is s/he who is responsible for appointing thetrustee and the executor for a constructive trustthat particular court case.In a last will and testament trust, the opposite is the casethe executorappoints the trustee.


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So s/he appoints the judge as trustee (the one to administer the trust) andappoints the prosecutor as executor of the trust. The executor is ultimatelyliable for the charge because it was s/he who brought the case into court(created the constructive trust) on behalf of the state/province which chargedthe CQV trust. Only an executor/prosecutor can initiate/create a constructive

trust and we all know the maxim of law: Whoever creates the controversy holdsthe liability and whoever holds the liability must provide the remedy. This iswhy all attorneys are mandated to bring their cheque-books to court because ifit all goes wrong for them. meaning either they fail to transfer theirliability onto the alleged defendant, or the alleged defendant does not accepttheir offer of liability, then someone has to credit the trust account in orderto off-set the debt. Since the prosecutor is the one who issues bogus paper andcharges the trust, it is the Prosecutor/Executor (PE) who is in the hot-seat.

When the Name (of the trust), e.g.: JOHN DOE, is called by the Judge akaAdministrator aka Trustee (JAT), we can stand and ask, For and on the record,

are you saying that the trust which you are now administrating is the JOHN DOEtrust? This establishes that we know that the Name is a trust, not a live man.Whats the JATs first question? Whats your name? or State your name for therecord. We must be very careful not to identify with the name of the trustbecause doing so makes us the trustee. What does this tell you about the judge?If we know that the judge is the trustee, then we also know that the judge isthe Name, but only for this particular, constructive trust. Now, think about allthe times that JATs have become so frustrated by our refusal to admit to beingthe Name that they issue a warrant and then, as soon as the man leaves, he isarrested. How idiotic is that? They must feel foolish for saying, John Doe isnot in court so Im issuing a warrant for his arrest and then, the man whomthey just admitted is NOT there is arrested because he IS there. Theirdesperation makes them insane, so they project that insanity onto us and orderUS to get psychological evaluations for THEIR insanity!!!) They must get us toadmit to being the name, or they pay, and we must not accept their coercion, orwe pay. Because the JAT is the trusteea precarious position, the best thing tosay, in that case, is JOHN DOE is, indeed, in the court! Point to the JAT.It is YOU! As trustee, YOU are JOHN DOE, today, arent you?!

During their frustration over our not admitting to being a trust namethetrustee and/or executor of the trust, we ought to ask who they are. Before wego any further, I need to know who YOU are. Address the clerk of thecourtthe trustee for the CQV trust owned by the state/province, Are you theCQVs trustee who has appointed this judge as administrator and trustee of theconstructive trust case #12345? Did you also appoint the prosecutor as executorof this constructive trust? Then point to the JAT: So you are the trustee,then point to the prosecutor, and you are the executor? And Im acting asbeneficiary, so, now we know whos who and, as beneficiary, I authorize you tohandle the accounting and dissolve this constructive trust. I now claim my bodyso I am collapsing the CQV trust which you have charged, as there is no value in


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it. You have committed fraud against all laws! Likely, we will not get that farbefore the JAT will order Case dismissed or, even more likely, the PE, as heclings tightly to his cheque-book, will call, We withdraw the charges.

We have exposed their fraud of the CQV trust which exists only on presumptions.

The CQV has no corpus, no property, ergo, no value. Trusts are created only uponthe conveyance of property and can exist only as long as there is value in thetrust. But, there is no value in the CQV trust, yet, they continue to charge thetrust. That is fraud! The alleged property is we men and women whom they havedeemed to be incompetent, dead, abandoned, lost, bankrupts, or minors, but thatis an illusion so, if we claim our body, then we collapse the presumption thatthe trust has value. They are operating in fraudsomething weve always known,but now we know how they do it. Our having exposed their fraud gives them onlythree options:

1. They can dissolve the CQV trustthe one for which the clerk of the court is

trustee and from which s/he created a constructive trustthe casefor whichs/he appointed the judge and prosecutor titles which hold temporaryliabilitytrustee and executor, respectively. But they cannot dissolve the CQVor the entire global system will collapse because they cannot exist without ourenergy which they obtain via that CQV trust, not to mention that they do notwant to do the accounting and disperse the funds to the beneficiaryus. We mustchallenge and resolve this on our own behalf, as the system is not prepared todo so.

2. They can enforce the existing rules of trust law which means, as trustee,they can set-off their debt and leave us alone. Now they know that we are ontotheir fraud and every time they go into court to administer a trust account,they will not know if we are the one who will send them to jail. The trustee(judge) is the liable party who will go to jail, and the executor (prosecutor)is the one who enforces this. This is why they want us to take on both titles,because then, not only do we go to jail but also, by signing their paper, webecome executor and enforce our own sentence. They cannot afford to violate theecclesiastical canon laws, out of fear of ending their careers, so they are,again, trapped with no place to run.

3. They can dismiss the cases before they even take the risk of our exposingtheir fraud . which also makes no sense because then their careers, again, cometo a screeching halt.

Whats a court clerk to do!? Pretty soon, none of these thugs will take anycases because the risk is too great. This will be the end of the court system.Bout bloody time, eh?

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by the PTW (powers that were) have all been superficial, compared to the originsof all the black magic, superstition, satanic ritualism, trickery, mind-control,and clandestine practices. Their ritual is vastly more important to them thantheir procedure and competence which is why their behaviour is so insane! So, itbehooves us to know where all their ritualism began.

Under commercial law, dating back to the Code of Ur-Nammuaround 2100 BCEtheuse of anothers property without permission puts one into dishonor and makeshim liable for any debts. So, our using UCC forms, bills of exchange, AFV, orbonds, and altering documents of the Roman System can create penalties, as thisis trading and/or using the property of a corporation we do not own . the birthcertificate proves that the name is, in fact, the property of the corporationwhich issued it. We can do all the paper perfectly but, in the end, they say,Sorry; youre not one of us. But, now, we get to inflict fear onto them. Whenwe are forced to court, knowing that the Judge acts as the Trustee and theprosecutor acts as Executor of the CQV Trusts is empowering. It gives us two

choices:

1. If we wish to expose the fraud of presumptions, by which the CQV trustsstill exist, then the court is the perfect opportunity to have them dissolved orto prove the fraud because the Trustee is sitting on the bench. Dissolving thefirst CQV, dissolves them all; or,

2. If we are not inclined to use something like the Ecclesiastical Deed Poll toexpose the fraud of the CQV Trusts, then, at least, we ought to know thateverything the judge sayseven if it sounds like a command, order, orsentenceis actually an offer which we can choose to decline (I do notconsent; I do not accept your offer). This is a fundamental principle oftestamentary trusts the beneficiary can accept or decline what the trusteeoffers.

For 15 years, I have watched the alleged solutions in commerce come and go andnothing has worked for enough people on enough occasions to call anything aconsistent win. Paying for information is insanity because those who sellinformation clearly have not prevailed or they wouldnt need to sell anything,would they? Buying express, private-contract trusts, e.g.: NACRS, is a hugewaste of time and money because the entire process is too complicated for anyonewith an IQ below 400, they offer minimal assistance, and no refunds. I havefound no solution in commerce because those who claim to have solutions stillinsist upon treating symptoms rather than curing the cause which is thefraudulent CQV trust. Tackling commerce within commerce wont work; we musttackle commerce from the paramount, ecclesiastical position. Only the Divineand True trusts are higher than a CQV trust.

For a presentment of ANY kind, we ought to send an EDP. Carefully followinstructions at:


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http://one-heaven.org/canons_positive_law/article_1330.htm

If we send an Ecclesiastical Deed Poll (EDP), the highest form of contract, asresponse, e.g.: to a summons or arrest warrant, then the judge who issues themhas to think long and hard: Am I willing to gamble that the man who walks into

my court might call me on my role of trustee and expose the fraud that the CQVTrusts are still in place?

Canons of Positive Law:http://one-heaven.org/canons_positive_law/article_0000.htmRead it three times and it will shift your frequency and change your life.

This knowledge is your power. Frank OCollins

History of Trustshttp://one-heaven.org/home.asp

The 1st Trust of the worldUnam Sanctam is one of the most frightening documents of history and the onemost quoted as the primary document of the popes claiming their global power. Itis an express trust deed. The last line reads: Furthermore, we declare, weproclaim, we define that it is absolutely necessary for salvation that everyhuman creature be subject to the Roman Pontiff. It is not only the first trustdeed in history but also the largest trust ever conceived, as it claims thewhole planet and everything on it, conveyed in trust.

Triple Crown of Baal, aka the Papal Tiara and TriregnumIn 1302 Pope Boniface issued his infamous Papal Bull Unam Sanctamthe firstExpress Trust. He claimed control over the whole planet which made him King ofthe world. In celebration, he commissioned a gold-plated headdress in the shapeof a pinecone, with an elaborate crown at its base. The pinecone is an ancientsymbol of fertility and one traditionally associated with Baal as well as theCult of Cybele. It also represents the pineal gland in the centre of ourbrainscrystalline in nature which allows us access to Source, hence, the13-foot tall pinecone in Vatican Square. Think about why the Pontiffs wouldidolize a pinecone.See: Pharmacratic Inquisition: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tnvEHObMMH4

The 1st Crown of Crown LandPope Boniface VIII was the first leader in history to create the concept of aTrust, but the first Testamentary Trust, through a deed and will creating aDeceased Estate, was created by Pope Nicholas V in 1455, through the Papal BullRomanus Pontifex. This is only one of three (3) papal bulls to include the linewith the incipit For a perpetual remembrance. This Bull had the effect ofconveying the right of use of the land as Real Property, from the Express TrustUnam Sanctam, to the control of the Pontiff and his successors in perpetuity.
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Hence, all land is claimed as crown land. This 1st Crown is represented bythe 1st Cestui Que Vie Trust, created when a child is born. It deprives us ofall beneficial entitlements and rights on the land.

The 2nd Crown of the Commonwealth

The second Crown was created in 1481 with the papal bull Aeterni Regis, meaningEternal Crown, by Sixtus IV, being only the 2nd of three papal bulls as deedsof testamentary trusts.This Papal Bull created the Crown of Aragon, later known as the Crown ofSpain, and is the highest sovereign and highest steward of all Roman Slavessubject to the rule of the Roman Pontiff. Spain lost the crown in 1604 when itwas granted to King James I of England by Pope Paul V after the successfulpassage of the Union of Crowns, or Commonwealth, in 1605 after the false flagoperation of the Gunpowder Plot. The Crown was finally lost by England in 1975,when it was returned to Spain and King Carlos I, where it remains to this day.This 2nd Crown is represented by the 2nd cestui Que Vie Trust, created when a

child is born and, by the sale ofthe birth certificate as a Bond to the private central bank of the nation,depriving us ofownership of our flesh and condemning us to perpetual servitude, as a Romanperson, or slave.

The 3rd Crown of the Ecclesiastical SeeThe third Crown was created in 1537 by Paul III, through the papal bullConvocation, also meant to open the Council of Trent. It is the third and finaltestamentary deed and will of a testamentary trust, set up for the claiming ofall lost souls, lost to the See. The Venetians assisted in the creation ofthe 1st Cestui Que Vie Act of 1540, to use this papal bull as the basis ofEcclesiastical authority of Henry VIII. This Crown was secretly granted toEngland in the collection and reaping of lost souls. The Crown was lost in1816, due to the deliberate bankruptcy of England, and granted to the Temple Barwhich became known as the Crown Bar, or simply the Crown. The Bar Associationshave since been responsible for administering the reaping of the souls of thelost and damned, including the registration and collection of Baptismalcertificates representing the souls collected by the Vatican and stored in itsvaults.This 3rd Crown is represented by the 3rd Cestui Que Vie Trust, created when achild is baptized. It is the parents grant of the Baptismal certificatetitleto the soulto the church or Registrar. Thus, without legal title over onesown soul, we will be denied legal standing and will be treated as thingscargowithout soulsupon which the BAR is now legally, but certainly not lawfully orwith any integrity, able to enforce Maritime law.

The Cestui Que Vie TrustA Cestui Que Vie Trust is a fictional concept. It is a Temporary TestamentaryTrust, first created during the reign of Henry VIII of England through the


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Cestui Que Vie Act of 1540 and updated by Charles II, through the CQV Act of1666, wherein an Estate may be effected for the Benefit of a Person presumedlost or abandoned at sea and therefore assumed dead after seven (7) years.Additional presumptions, by which such a Trust may be formed, were added inlater statutes to include bankrupts, minors, incompetents, mortgages, and

private companies. The original purpose of a CQV Trust was to form a temporaryEstate for the benefit of another because some event, state of affairs, orcondition prevented them from claiming their status as living, competent, andpresent, before a competent authority. Therefore, any claims, history, statutes,or arguments that deviate in terms of the origin and function of a CQV Trust, aspronounced by these canons, is false and automatically null and void.

A Beneficiary under Estate may be either a Beneficiary or a CQV Trust. When aBeneficiary loses direct benefit of any Property of the higher Estate placed ina CQV Trust on his behalf, he does not own the CQV Trust; he only acts asbeneficiary of what the Trustees of the CQV Trust choose to provide. As all CQV

Trusts are created on presumption, based upon original purpose and function,such a Trust cannot be created if these presumptions can be proven not to exist.

Since 1933, when a child is borne in a State (Estate) under inferior Roman law,three (3) Cestui Que (Vie) Trusts are created upon certain presumptionsspecifically designed to deny, forever, the child any rights of Real Property,any Rights to be free, and any Rights to be known as man or woman, rather than acreature or animal, by claiming and possessing their Soul or Spirit.

The Executors or Administrators of the higher Estate willingly and knowingly:1. convey the beneficial entitlements of the child, as Beneficiary, into the1st Cestui Que (Vie) Trust in the form of a Registry Number by registering theName, thereby also creating the Corporate Person and denying the child anyrights to Real Property; and,2. claim the baby as chattel to the Estate. The slave baby contract is thencreated by honoring the ancient tradition of either having the ink impression ofthe babys feet onto the live birth record, or a drop of its blood, as well astricking the parents to signing the baby away through the deceitful legalmeanings on the live birth record which is a promissory note, converted into aslave bond, sold to the private reserve bank of the estate, and then conveyedinto a 2nd and separate CQV Trust, per child, owned by the bank. When thepromissory note reaches maturity and the bank is unable to seize the slavechild, a maritime lien is lawfully issued to salvage the lost property and ismonetized as currency issued in series against the CQV Trust.3. claim the childs soul via the Baptismal Certificate. Since 1540 and thecreation of the 1st CQV Act, deriving its power from the Papal Bull of RomanCult leader Pope Paul III, 1540, when a child is baptized and a BaptismalCertificate is issued, the parents have gifted, granted, and conveyed the soulof the baby to a 3rd CQV Trust owned by Roman Cult, which has held thisvaluable property in its vaults ever since. Since 1815, this 3rd Crown of the


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Roman Cult and 3rd CQV Trust representing Ecclesiastical Property has beenmanaged by the BAR as the reconstituted Galla responsible, as Grim Reapers,for reaping the souls.

Each Cestui Que Vie Trust, created since 1933, represents one of the 3 Crowns

representing the three claims of property of the Roman Cult: Real Property (onEarth), Personal Property (body), and Ecclesiastical Property (soul). Eachcorresponds exactly to the three forms of law available to the Galla of the BARCourts: corporate commercial law (judge is the landlord), maritime and canonlaw (judge is the banker), and Talmudic law (judge is the priest).

What is the real power of a court judge?Given what has been revealed about the foundations of Roman Law, what is thereal hidden power of a judge when we face court? Is it their superior knowledgeof process and procedure or of magic? Or is it something simpler and far moreobvious?

It is unfortunate that much of the excitement about Estates and Executors hasdeliberately not revealed that an Estate, by definition, has to belong to aTrustto be specific, a Testamentary Trust or CQV Trust. When we receive legalpaper or have to appear in court, it is these same CQV Trusts which have ourrights converted into the property contained within them. Instead of being theTrustee, or the Executor, or Administrator, we merely act as Beneficiary of eachCQV Trust, granted only beneficial and equitable use of certain property, neverlegal title. So if the Roman Legal System assumes we are merely the beneficiaryof these CQV Trusts, when we go to court, who represents the Trustee and Officeof Executor? We all know that all cases are based upon the judges discretionwhich often defies procedures, statutes, and maxims of law. Well, they are doingwhat any Trustee or Executor, administering a trust in the presence of thebeneficiary, can do under Roman Law and all the statutes, maxims, and proceduresare really for show because under the principles of Trust Law, as first formedby the Roman Cult, a Trustee has a wide latitude, including the ability tocorrect any procedural mistakes, by obtaining the implied or tacit consent ofthe beneficiary, to obviate any mistakes. The judge is the real and legal Name.The judge is the trust, itself. We are the mirror image to themthe ghostthedead. It is high sorcery, trickery, and subterfuge that has remained legal forfar too long.

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