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IN THE CIRCUIT COURT OF THE 17TH JUDICIAL CIRCUIT

IN AND FOR BROWARD COUNTY FLORIDA

CASE NO . : 09-05 3225 14)

STATE OF FLORIDA DEPARTMENT

OF ENVIRONMENTAL PROTECTION

P l a i n t i f f

v s .

SYLVIA POITIER a nd FELICIA

POITIER, i n d i v i d u a l s

D e f e n d a n t s .

ORIGIN L

DEPOSITIONOF

SYLVIA POITIER

Apex R e p o r t i n g Group

12 S o u t h e a s t 7 t h S t r e e t

For t L a u d e r d a l e F l o r i d a 3330 1

May 3 0 t h 2013

1 : 2 6 p.m. - 4 :0 4 p .m.

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4 M TTHEW SMITH-KENNEDY, ESQUIRE

3900 Commonwealth Bou levard MS 35

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Ta l l a h a s s e e F l o r i d a 32399

7 For t h e Defendan ts :

8 ROBERT G. NICHOLS, ESQUIRE

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LSO PRESENT:

Robe r t Ni c h o l s A s s o c i a t e s

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F o r t L a u d e r d a l e F l o r i d a 333 01

K REN K NTOR

TERRY SCOTT

FELICIA POITIER

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( E x h i b i t r e t a i n e d by t h e c o u r t r e p o r t e r .

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THEREUPON:

SYLVIA POITIER

a w i t n e s s named i n t h e n o t i c e h e r e t o f o r e f i l e d , h a v i n g

b een f i r s t d u l y swor n d e p o s e s and s a y s a s f o l l o w s :

DIRECT EXAMINATION

BY MR SMITH KENNEDY:

Q . This i s Matthew Smith -Kennedy f o r t h e

Depar t m en t o f Envi ronmenta l P r o t e c t i o n , S t a t e o f

9 F l o r i d a . The c a s e i s FOP v s . S y l v i a P o i t i e r and F e l e c i a

10 P o i t i e r . A l t h o u g h o n ly S y l v i a P o i t i e r i s i n v o l v e d , a t

11 t h i s p o i n t , i n t h e l a w s u i t .

12 The c a s e number i s 09-053225.

1 3 Mr. P o i t i e r , do you know why w e r e h e r e t oday?

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A. Yes. I r e a d t h a t I m t o be d e p o s e d and was

s u p p o s e d t o b r i n g some docum en t s . I had a p ro b lem w i t h

t h a t . I c a l l e d my a t t o r n e y and t o l d him t h a t .

Q. And you d o n t n e e d t o r e p e a t a n y t h i n g you t o l d

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MR NICHOLS: Our d i s c u s s i o n s a r e p r i v i l e g e d .

So d o n t speak o f what we - -

THEWITNESS: Oh okay. Okay. Okay. Okay.

MR NICHOLS: - - d i s c u s s e d .

THE WITNESS: Okay. Okay. Okay .

MR SMITH KENNEDY: So y o u r e n o t i n any

t r o u b l e . B u t j u s t keep i n mind t h r o u g h o u t t h e


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THE WITNESS: Ye s .

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3 Q A l l r i g h t . Sp eak in g o f docum en t s , d i d you

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Ye s .

A l l r i g h t . And I v e p u t i t i n f r o n t o f you

c a l l e d E x h i b i t A, f rom h e r e on o u t . Okay?

MR NICHOLS: Can I t a k e a l o o k a t t h a t ?

Not t h a t makes i t any d i f f e r e n c e , b u t what I

s e n t t o he r was t h e a t t a c h m e n t , which i s you r duces

t ecum. I n e v e r g o t t h e n o t i c e on t o p o f

i t s i n c o n s e q u e n t i a l .

MR SMITH-KENNEDY : Okay. Thanks ,

Mr. N i c h o l s .

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p o r t i o n ?

MR NICHOLS: This i s t h e more im p o r t a n t p a r t .

T h a t s what was e - m a i l e d .

THE WITNESS: Look a t i t ?

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Okay. Can you t u r n t o t h e n e x t page wh e r e i t

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Okay. Did you r e c e i v e t h a t page?

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Okay. And i s t h a t page marked document s t o be

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MR SMITH KENNEDY: A l l r i g h t . Thanks . Can I

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12 Q Ms. P o i t i e r , d i d you b r i n g , t o d a y income t a x

1 3 r e t u r n s f o r c a l e n d a r y e a r s 2 011 and 2012?

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Did you f i l e a p e r s o n a l t a x r e t u r n f o r 2011?

Tha t I c a n t remember. I know t h e a c c o u n t a n t

b r o u g h t me up t o d a t e an d I d o n t know w h e t h e r i t was

18 2011 o r n o t . Bu t i t had t o be because I owed t h e

19 I n t e r n a l Revenue f rom i t I m n o t s u r e o f t h e y e a r.

2 0 Q I f you f i l e d a 2011 t a x y e a r r e t u r n , where

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A. E r n e s t Newman.

MS. FELICIA POITIER: Denn i s .

THE WITNESS: D en n i s Newman.

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A. No I d i d n t . I have an e x t e n s i o n .

e x t e n s i o n on t h a t , u n t i l O c t o b e r.

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Q Are you on any m e d i c a t i o n t h a t c o u ld a f f e c t

y o u r a b i l i t y t o r e c a l l t h i n g s h e r e t oday?

A. Yes s i r .

Q Okay. And t h i s i s r e l a t e d t o some s o r t o f

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Righ t now i n t h e d e p o s i t i o n , do you f e e l you

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Okay?

Not s i n c e November. I v e been down.

MR SMITH KENNEDY: Okay. I m g o i n g t o

c o n t i n u e a s k i n g abou t t h e s e documents .

THE WITNESS: Uh-huh.

MR SMITH KENNEDY: I f you d o n t know p l e a s e

t l l me you d o n t know. I f you do know p l e a s e

t l l me.

THE WITNESS: Okay.

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b e t t e r s t a t e o f mind t h a t you mig h t know t h e n

p l e a s e t e l l me t h a t , t o o ; i t h a t s t h e c a s e .

Okay?

THE WITNESS: Yes s i r .

BY MR SMITH-KENNEDY:

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Q. Do you have any income t ax r e c o r d s f o r t h e

f i r s t p a r t o f t h i s y e a r ; any s o r t o f r e c o r d s r e l a t i n g t o

w i th h o ld in g o f money f o r y o u r b u s i n e s s , t h a t s o r t o f

t h i n g ?

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No; no b u s i n e s s .

Did you b r i n g ch eck books o r c h e c k l e d g e r s f o r

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A l l r i g h t . Do you hav e any p r i n t o u t f rom

1 6 l i k e , bank a c c o u n t s o f ch eck s t h a t have b e e n d e p o s i t e d

1 7 o r c a s h e d o r w ri t t e n ?

1 8 A. I ve go t s t a t e m e n t s and t h e y were i n t h a t box.

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him a b o u t t h e box o f documents?

THE WIT NESS: Ye s . I have a bank s t a t e m e n t

f rom each month f rom Su n Tru s t Bank an d Bank o f

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I went t o t h e s t o r e and I b o u g h t you know

t h e j a c k e t s and e v e r y t h i n g t o p u t them i n , t o have

i t s e p a r a t e f o r you. Bu t I d o n t know w h e t h e r

t h e y have h e lp e d me t o o , much an d t h rew away my

documents and I have t o r e - d o them o r n o t .

MR SMITH KENNEDY: Okay.


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Okay.

D e f i n i t e l y s o .

Sp eak in g o f b a n k s do

c o u ld you p r o d u c e t o me?

you r e c a l l t h a t we had a

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I n t h i s same b u i l d i n g . I remember t h e

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I t sounds r i g h t .

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No, s i r .

Have you s t o p p e d u s i n g an y bank a c c o u n t s t h a t

December 2 0, 2011?

No, s i r .

MR SMITH-KENNEDY: Remember t o l e t me f i n i s h

q u e s t i o n . Okay?

SMITH-KENNEDY:

Did you b r i n g any r e c o r d s o r l e d g e r s t h a t a r e

1 0 r e l a t e d t o money t h a t y o u v e p r o c e e d e d - - e x c u s e me ,

1 1 t h a t you ve r e c e i v e d f rom y o u r b u s i n e s s e s ; l i k e , r e n t s ?

1 2 A. I b r o u g h t t h e r e n t r e c e i p t . F e l e c i a h a s i t .

1 3 But , my l e d g e r was i n t h e box . Bu t , I do h av e - - I can

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MS. FELICIA POITIER: I l e f t i t i n t h e c a r .

THE WITNESS: Oh. So, no . She l e f t t h a t i n

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MS. FELICIA POI T IER: No, I d i d n t t h i n k o f

THE WITNESS: The l e a s e s ?

MS. FELICIA POITIER: T h a t s j u s t t h e l e a s e .

THE WITNESS: Oh.


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Q Do_ you keep a r e c o r d o f who p a y s r e n t and who

4 d o e s n t pay r e n t f o r t h e p r o p e r t i e s t h a t you l e a s e o u t ?

5 A Yes s i r .

6 Q Okay. Do you h av e t h a t r e c o r d a t home o r

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8 A She h as t h e r e c o r d down i n h e r c a r , on t h e

9 o n l y one I v e g o t now. My d a u g h t e r h as t i n he r c a r

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11 MR SMITH-KENNEDY: Okay. Can s h e b r i n g t h a t

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16 MS. FELICIA POITIER: Okay.


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19 d a u g h t e r s c a r do you have any o t h e r r e c o r d s o f who has

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2 1 t h a t you l e a s e d i n t h e p a s t two y e a r s ?

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23 Q And you d o n t h av e any o t h e r b u s i n e s s income

2 4 b e s i d e s f rom t e n a n t s ; i s t h a t c o r r e c t ?

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A. No, s i r . I c a n t .

Q. Has any p r o p e r t y been t a k e n f rom you s i n c e

A. Yes s i r .

Q. Okay. And what p r o p e r t y has been t a k e n from

A. 269 South Dix ie Highway. Mr . A r t h u r S t ro c k

has me i n d e f a u l t and he c o l l e c t s t h e r e n t f rom t h a t

a c c o r d i n g t o a p re v i o u s ag reemen t .

My home. I l o s t my home i n November o r December.

I have someth ing . Maybe t h o s e would have t h e da te on

d a te on i t .

MR NICHOLS: I s i t okay i f I -

MR SMITH-KENNEDY: Sur e .

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t h r e e - d a y t e r m i n a t i o n n o t i c e .

THE WI TNESS: There s t h i s t h r e e - d a y n o t i c e ;

yeah .

So i f t h e y gave me t h a t on t h e t w e n t y - f i f t h ,

MR SMITH-KENNEDY: Okay.

THE WITNESS: - - t h a t s t h e f i r s t t ime I knew

t h a t I had l o s t my home. I d o n t know - - I d i d n t

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A. I t wa s i n f o r e c l o s u r e f o r f i v e y e a r s .

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5 A But , I had been work ing on i t And t h e n , t h e y

6 came up and s a i d t h a t t hey f o r e c l o s e d by paper ; f a s t ,

7 w i t h t h e e l e c t r o n i c s t u f f . I d i d n t have any money t o

8 defend my s e l f . So, I l o s t t h e house .

9 Q What was t h e ad d re s s o f t h e house , ag a i n ?

10 A. 283 Sou thwes t 1 s t Ter race , D e e r f i e l d Beach ,

11 F l o r i d a , 33441.

12 Q. Okay. Are you s t i l l l i v i n g t h e r e o r d i d you

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14 A. Yes . No, I moved o u t f o r a c oup le o f weeks

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2 1 A. The mortgage was supposed t o have been 1 ,250 ;

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2 3 a d j u s t a b l e mortgages and s t u f f . I t kep t going up. I

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3 A Yeah; ove r 3 ,000 a month . And t h e n November

4 o f 201 2 I l o s t t .

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The p r e v i o u s month, t h e v e r y month . I p a i d i n

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No . I have t o pay t h e f i r s t o f June .

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Have you t a k e n o u t any new l o a n s -

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Have you t a k e n o u t p e r s o n a l l o a ns f rom p r i v a t e

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From whom have you t a k e n o u t l o a n s ?

I hav e a l o a n f rom Anthony Thompson.

And w h a t ' s t h e amount owed on t h e l o a n ?

I owed him 5 ,000 ; b u t I p a i d him s i n c e .

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b u t , i t was a f t e r I - - No. I t was a f t e r I had t h e

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Okay.

2 010, I t o o k out t h e loan .

Any o t h e r p e r s o n a l l o an s t h a t y o u ' v e t aken ou t

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Okay. Te l l me about them?

I borrowed money from J u l i u s Jackson and I

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Who McCoy?

Ted. And t h e y a r e t h e only two l o a n s , I

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18 Q How much d i d you borrow from J u l i u s Jackson?

19 A. At t h e t ime, 15,000 .

2 0 Q And when d i d you borrow t h a t amount?

2 1 A. I borrowed t h a t - - Tha t s a second s e t o f

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1 A But , I owe Te r r y S c o t t , r i g h t t h e r e . I

2 bor rowed 9 ,000 , t o t a l , from Ter ry.

3 Q When d i d you bor row 9,000 f rom Mr. Sco t t ?

4 A. I n 1 1 , Decem - - I t w a s n t i n December; b u t ,

5 i t was i n t h e y e a r 2 011 .

6 Q And Ted McCoy, when d i d you bor row f rom him?

A. Every o t h e r month, he would have t o l o a n me

8 500 t o 1,000 .

9 Q How much do you owe him?

10 A Righ t now? I d o n t ow e him a n y t h i n g , r i g h t

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12 Q . When i s t h e l a s t t ime you bor rowed money f rom

1 3 him, t h a t i s Mr. McCoy?

1 4 THE WITNESS: F e l e c i a , when was t h a t ?

15 MR SMITH-KENNEDY: Wai t . You c a n t - -

16 THE WITNESS: I c a n t as k h e r? II

17 MR SMITH-KENNEDY : No n o t i n a d e p o s i t i o n .

18 THE WITNESS: Oh. I t h i n k - - I d o n t q u i t e

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2 0 MR SMITH-KENNEDY : Okay.

2 1 THE WITNESS: Two months , maybe; two o r t h r e e

22 months . Th r e e months ago I bor rowed i t . B ef o r e I

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2 Q Did you bor row - - Okay. When d i d bor row money

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4 9, 000 t o Ter ry S c o t t ?

5 A No , I s t i l l owe Ter ry 3, 00 0 . And l a s t month

6 3,800 t h a t I d i d n t pay l a s t month .

Q Have any o f t h e s e p eo p l e c ha rg e d you i n t e r e s t

8 o r fees f o r borrowing from them?

9 A. No.

10 Q So, t h i s i s j u s t

11 A Anthony l o an ed - - Anthony I had t o pay a f ee

12 o f t e n p e r c e n t .

13 Q Remind me who Anthony i s ag a i n ?

14 A Anthony Thompson.

1 5 Q. Anthony Thompson? Okay. So r ry. So, be s i d e s

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1 7 pu t t h o s e l oans a s i d e .

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19 s i n c e December 2 01 1 ?

2 0 A. No.

2 1 Q. Okay. Have you p a i d o f f - - You h a v e n t p a i d

22 o f f a mortgage on a p i e c e of - - an a p a r tme n t o r a house

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l oan?

A . No .

Q. Okay . In 2011, Decemb e r o f 2011, you had a

c a r payment ; i s t h a t c o r r e c t ?

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No.

You d i d n t ? Okay?

I h a v e n t had a c a r payment s i n c e 2 004.

Q. Okay. Have you s o l d any p e r s o n a l p r o p e r t y ;

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t down t h e r e .

THE WITNESS: So r r y.

MR SMITH KENNEDY: Th a t s a l l r i g h t . I c u t

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abou t your a s s e t s and l i a b i l i t i e s ?

A. No.

Q. And i s i t s t i l l t r u e t h a t you d o n t own any

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Q . Okay. Now i n Decembe r o f 2 0 1 1 you d i d have

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A . Yes.

Q. Okay. I l l g e t t o t h a t l a t e r . R i g h t now, I m

17 a sk i n g abou t what has changed s i n c e t h e n . So,

18 Anothe r q u e s t i o n abou t t h e p r o d u c t i o n . I n t h e p a s t

19 s e v e n t e e n months have you h i r e d anyone t o work f o r you ,

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- - o r a s a p e r s o n a l a s s i s t a n t ?

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Okay. Who have you h i r e d ?

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2 A They r e - f a c e t h e c l e a n e r s and I c a l l him s l i m .

3 My d a u g h t e r would know h i s name.

4 Q The c l e a n e r s , does t h a t r e f e r t o D e e r f i e l d Dry

5 C l e a n e r s ?

6 A Yes.

7 Q And t h a t s a b u s i n e s s owned by F e l e c i a

8 P o i t i e r ?

A Yes.

10 Q A t a pp r ox ima te ly 85 - -

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12 Q I s i t Westboro?

13 A. H i l l s b o ro .

14 Q H i l l sboro? Okay; Boulevard . And t h a t s i n

15 D e e r f i e l d Beach, c o r r e c t ?

16 A Yes .

17 Q Okay. What i s r e - f a c e t he c l e a n e r s mean?

18 A. Wel l , t he c i t y demanded b y t h a t I - - I t was

1 9 d e t e r i o r a t i n g a round t h e t o p . I t s a f a c a d e ; wh a t you

2 0 c a l l a f a c a de t r e a tme n t and p a i n t i n g . And, l i k e , I had

2 1 t o r e - s t u c c o i n d i f f e r e n t a r e a s .

22 Q When d i d you pay f o r t h i s t o be done?

23 A 1 ,5 00 i n l a b o r and - -

2 4 MR . N ICHOLS: I 'm s o r r y . Did you a s k when o r

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3 MR NICHOLS: Oh, okay.


5 Q How much d i d you pay?

6 A The t o t a l amount was - - Oh, s h o o t . I c a n t

7 remember a l l o f t h o s e t h i n g s I d run t o t h e s t o r e and

8 p i c k up. I d have t o g e t t h e r e c e i p t s f o r them. But ,

9 a pp r ox ima te ly, 1 ,300 i n s u p p l i e s , 1 ,500 i n l a b o r , 80

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A. The s u p p l i e s - - The r e c e i p t s would be i n t h e

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g i v e me a no the r r e c e i p t f o r l a b o r .

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17 A. No, s i r .

18 Q But , you own t h e p r o p e r t y ; i s t h a t c o r r e c t ?

19 A Yes .

2 0 Q Okay. How much do you r e c e i v e i n r e n t f o r t h e

2 1 b u s i n e s s ?

22 A. Noth ing , n e v e r .

23 Q Do you r e c e i v e any p r o f i t f rom t h e b u s i n e s s ?

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1 f acade change a t t h e d r y c l e a n e r s , have you employed

2 anyone e l s e t o do work f o r any o f your b u s i n e s s e s o r

3 anyone e l s e s b u s i n e s s e s s i n c e December 2 011?

A. No . No.

5 Q. There wasn t a n y t h i n g abou t a b o i l e r o r

6 something l i k e t h a t ?

7 A. Never g o t i t .

8 Q. Never g o t t h e b o i l e r ?

9 A. C o u l d n t a f f o r d i t .

10 Q . Where was t h e b o i l e r a t , by t h e way?

11 A. On t h e p o r c h ; r i g h t on t h e l i t t l e porch . An d

12 t h e y t o o k t h e - - T h e r e s some th ing e l s e ; a b o i l e r and

13 But , t h e n i t c o o l s t h e a i r . What do you c a l l i t ? I t

14 was two i t e m s t h a t t h e s t o l e o f f t h e porch .

15 MR NICHOLS: Are you s ay ing a b o i l e r o r a

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1 7 THE WITNES S: I t s a c h i l l e r . I

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THE WITNESS: A c h i l l e r . I t s t h e one t h a t I

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2 1 MR . NICHOLS: A l l r ig h t . I u sed t h e wrong

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2 4 MR NICHOLS: I t s t h e o t h e r end o f t h e

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Q Did you buy a c h i l l e r i n t h e p a s t s e v e n t e e n

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6 Q Okay. Because t h a t wa s t o o e x p e n s iv e

7 c o r r e c t ?

8 A. Too e x p e n s iv e .

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Do you know wh a t I mean by an e n v i r o n m e n ta l

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Do you r e c a l l you o r someone on y o u r b e h a l f

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Was i t i n 2 0 12? Yes .

MR NICHOLS: The d e p o s i t i o n was a t t h e end o f

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THE WITNESS: Who p a i d i t ? Me? I d o n t know.

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MR NICHOLS: Can I j u s t e x p l a i n your q u e s t i o n

t o h e r - -

MR SMITH-KENNEDY: Sur e .

MR NI CHOLS: - - i n t e rms t h a t she would

u n d e r s t a n d .

H e ' s n o t a s k i n g you, n e c e s s a r i l y , who a c t u a l l y

gave t h e c h e c k t o t h e E nv i r o spe c l a d y.

THE WITNESS: No, I gave t h e money t o F e l e c i a .

MR NI CHOLS: H e ' s a s k i n g who gave t h e money

t o me and my t r u s t a c c o u n t , so I c o u l d g i v e i t t o

t h e E nv i r o spe c l a d y.

THE WITNESS: Yes . Oh. Oh, t h a t s what h e s

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a b o u t .

THE WITNESS: Oh, yeah . Yeah. I gave him

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Q. I f you r e c a l l , b e f o r e t h e h e a r i n g , t h e c o u r t

9 h e a r i n g we had , i s n t t t r u e t h a t you s p e n t so m e t h i n g

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Ren t?

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A. So, he won t f o r e c l o s e and t a k e t h e b u i l d i n g .

Q. So, you have a no te t h a t s owed on t h e

b u i l d i n g ; c o r r e c t ?

A. On t h e c l e a n e r s ; yeah . Yes. What he d i d ,

when I bor rowed t h e money, he i nc luded t h e d ry c l e a n e r s

i n t h e loan .

Q. Was t h a t Sprock?

A. S t rock .

Q. You t o l d me about him l a s t t ime, c o r r e c t ?

A. Uh-huh.

Q. Have you cons ide red , you know, t r y i n g t o g e t

t h e 5 00 from t h e b u s i n e s s ?

A. What b u s i n e s s ? The o n l y r ea s o n I 'm pa y in g i t

i s because I d o n t t h e p l a c e t o c l o s e . I saw where t h e

S t a t e got a l i e n on i t . But, I d o n t ever want t o c l o s e

i t because t h e C i t y o f D e e r f i e l d Beach wi l l n e v e r l e t me

r e -open .

Q. Okay?

A. I f t h e do o r s c l o s e , I c an t - - They r e not

g o ing t o l e t me r e -o p en i t . T h e y ' r e going t o use a l l

kinds o f r e a s o n s .

Q. Okay. And t h i s f a c i l i t y , t o your knowledge,

D e e r f i e l d Dry C leaner s , i s not a - - i t d o es n ' t us e

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5 I j u s t want t o b e a b l e t o l e t t h e p e o p l e d r o p t h e i r

6 c l o t h e s o f f , send them o u t and come back . But , due t o

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- - I d o n t want t o co ach my c l i e n t .

J u s t so you u n d e r s t a n d t h e s i g n i f i c a n c e ;

t h a t s how t h a t a f f e c t e d t h i n g s .

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ma k ing a p r o f i t .

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S h i r t ; e s p e c i a l l y s h i r t s .

So w i t h o u t t h i s p i e c e o f e q u i p m e n t p a r t o f

t h a t income s t r e a m i s d i m i n i s h e d ?

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I t s gone .

A l l r i g h t . o you r e c a l l t h a t we came t o an

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4 A Yes.

5 MR SMITH KENNEDY: Okay. Le t me f i n i s h .


7 Q - - towards t h e perfo rmance o f s i t e as s e s s men t ?

8 A. Yes.

9 Q Okay. And you u n d e r s t an d t h a t s i t e as s e s s men t

10 i s someth ing t h a t i n v o l v e s e nv i r onme n ta l c l ean -up a t a

1 1 p a r t i c u l a r p i e c e o f p r o p e r t y ; c o r r e c t ?

12 A T h a t s what I unders t and .

13 Q And t h a t p i e c e o f p r o p e r t y i s 85 West

14 H i l l s b o r o , D e e r f i e l d Beach , F l o r i d a ; i s t h a t c o r r e c t ?

15 A Yes.

1 6 Q Okay. Can you - - And I r e a l i z e you may have

17 g i v en some o f t h e s e answers b e f o r e . But , I j u s t want t o

18 make s u r e e v e r y t h i n g i s c l e a r .

19 Can you t e l l me t h e amount o f money t h a t you spen t

2 0 towards s i t e as s e s s men t i n J u l y o f 2 01 2?

2 1 A Not s u r e .

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- - towards t h e s i t e a s se s sme n t?

Yes.

A l l r i g h t . I m go ing t o r e p e a t t h e -

12 , y e s .

Did you s p e n t any amount o f money towards s i t e

8 a s s e ssment a t 85 West H i l l s b o r o , D e e r f i e l d Beach,

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Okay.

1 , 3 0 0 .

Okay.

I gave

What d i d you spend?

Yes, I d i d .

So, you s p e n t 1, 3 00 ?

-- I remember g i v i n g my a t t o r n e y , a b o u t

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A. 1 ,300 s i n c e J u l y o f 1 2 .

MR SMITH-KENNEDY: Okay. So, m going t o

a s k a s e r i e s o f q u e s t i o n s .

Do you want t o b r e a k r i g h t now?

MR NICHOLS: No. B ut , I mean, I can c l e a r

t h i n g s up i f you wan t .

MR SMITH-KENNEDY: Why d o n ' t we t a k e a b r e a k

r i g h t now.

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(Thereupon , a b r i e f r e c e s s was h e l d . )

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5 Q. Ms. P o i t i e r , I u n d e r s t a n d , d u r i n g o u r b r e a k

6 you had an o p p o r t u n i t y t o t a l k w i t h some p e o p l e a b o u t

7 v a r i o u s t h i n g s t h a t have b een s a i d h e r e t o d a y. I s t h a t

8 c o r r e c t ?

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Yes.

Okay. Has anyone s a i d a n y th in g t o you t h a t

would c a u s e you t o change so meth in g you t o l d me,

a l r e a d y , t o d a y ?

A. Yes.

Q. Okay. What i s

A. I t h i n k I need t o change a b o u t t h e

env i ronment , t h e env i ronment . I m t r y i n g t o assume what

my a t t o r n e y d i d w i t h t h e money and I d o n t r e a l l y know.

Q. Okay. So, s i n c e J u l y 1 , 2 0 12, i s n t t t r u e

t h a t you haven t p a i d y o u r a t t o r n e y any l e g a l f e e s ? I s

2 0 t h a t c o r r e c t ?

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MR NICHOLS: You mean a t t o r n e y s f e e s f o r me,

p e r s o n a l l y ?

MR SMITH-KENNEDY : Yes.

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3 Q So w h at h av e you p a i d y o u r a t t o r n e y f o r any

4 p u r p o s e s i n c e J u l y 1 2 012; u n l e s s Mr. N i c h o l s h as an

5 o b j e c t i o n t o t h a t q u e s t i o n somehow?

6 MR NICHOLS: No. No. When h e s a y s p a i d , he

7 d o e s n t mean p a y i n g me p e r s o n a l l y . He means what

8 ch eck s - -

9 THE WITNESS: I d o n t

10 MR NICHOLS: - - h av e you handed o v e r t o me .

THE WITNESS: Yeah. I d o n t - - I c a n t

1 2 remember.

1 3 MR SMITH-KENNEDY: Okay.


1 5 Q Have you p a i d your a t t o r n e y - - Have you g i v e n

16 any amount o f fu n d s t o your a t t o r n e y f o r any p u r p o s e

17 s i n c e J u l y 1 2 012?

18 A Ye s .

19 MR SMITH-KENNEDY: Okay. Remember t o l e t me

20 f i n i s h t h e q u e s t i o n .

2 1 BY MR . SMITH-KENNEDY:

22 Q Okay. What was t h e p u r p o s e o f g i v i n g t h e

2 3 money t o y o u r a t t o r n e y ?

2 4 A Meet i ng a c o u r t o r d e r .

2 5 Q How much money h av e you g i v e n your a t t o r n e y t o


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I c a n t r e c a l l b e c a u s e I t r u s t him.

Can you r e c a l l w h e t h e r i t was a t l e a s t ,

4 h u n d red s o f d o l l a r s ?

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Hundreds? Yeah.

Was i t a t l e a s t , h u n d r e d s o f d o l l a r s ?

Yes .

Do you r e c a l l t h e l a s t t ime you s e n t y o u r

9 a t t o r n e y any money?

A.

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I c a n t r e c a l l . I c a n t r e c a l l .

Has anyone e l s e s e n t you a t t o r n e y ; t h a t i s ,

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A. Unknown.

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So n o t known t o you?

Oh.

You don t know w h e t h e r - -

Yes Te r r y g av e my a t t o r n e y some money. B u t

18 I d o n t know how much h e g av e him. He t r i e d t o h e l p me

1 9 o u t .

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21 o r d e r ?

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Was t h a t money f o r co mp l i an ce w i t h a c o u r t

I would say y e s .

Do you know how much money Mr. Te r r y S c o t t

2 4 g av e y o u r a t t o r n e y s i n c e J u l y 1 2012 f o r co mp l i an ce

2 5 w i t h a c o u r t o r d e r ?

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Terry was l i k e t h e mailman. I would g iv e i t

2 to Terry and Terry would give i t t o t h e a t t o r n e y and

3 Ter ry would br ing i t t o t h e a t t o r n e y f o r me.

4 Q. Okay. How much money have you given t o Ter ry

5 S c o t t t o g ive t o your a t t o r n e y f o r compl iance with a

6 cour t o rder s ince J u l y 1, 2012?

7 A. I d o n t know. I c a n t remember; l i k e , j u s t t o

8 say g ive a f i g u r e .

Q. Okay. Can you t e l l me whethe r t h a t amount

10 t h a t you 've g iven Mr. S c o t t exceeds 100?

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Yes, i t does .

I s i t g r e a t e r t h an 500?

I t s g r e a t e r t h an 500. I t was g r e a t e r t han

14 1 ,000 . Uh-huh. I t s g r e a t e r t han 1 ,500 .

15 Q. Okay. So, do you b e l i e v e t h a t you 've g iven

16 more t h a n 1,500 t o Ter ry S c o t t t o give t o your

17 a t t o r n e y , Rober t Nichols , f o r compliance wi th a c o u r t

18 order, s i n c e J u l y 1, 2 012?

19 A. Yes.

2 0 Q. Have you p e r s o n a l l y g i v en your a t t o r n e y any

2 1 money f o r compl iance with a c o u r t o rd e r s i n c e J u l y 1 ,

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Once.

When was t h a t ?

I d o n t remember t h e d a t e .

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2 your a t t o r n e y f o r compl iance w i t h a c o u r t order?

3 A I d i d n t u n d e r s t a n d you.

4 Q What was t h e amount t h a t you gave Mr. N i c h o l s

5 f o r compl iance w i t h a c o u r t order?

6 A I t wa s 1 , 3 00 .

7 Q Okay. So, i n summary, you ' ve g i v en 1,300 ,

8 y o u r s e l f , t o your a t t o r n e y ; p l u s , a t l e a s t , 1,500 t o

9 your a t t o r n e y t h rough Mr . Ter ry S c o t t . I s t h a t c o r r e c t ?

10 A Yes.

Q I s t h e r e any o t h e r mon ey , s i n c e J u l y 1 , 2 012,

12 t h a t has g o t t e n t o your a t t o r n e y f rom you o r any o f your

13 f r i e n d s , f o r any r e a son?

1 4 A No .

1 5 Q Okay. What happened t o t h e money t h a t you

16 gave your a t t o r n e y p e r s o n a l l y ?

17 A. I d o n t know.

1 8 Q Do you know what happened t o t h e money t h a t

1 9 you gave t o Mr. S c o t t f o r t h e purpose o f g i v i n g t t o

2 0 your a t t o r n e y f o r c o u r t compl iance?

2 1 A No mo r e t han I gave t t o him. And, I d o n t

22 know whethe r t h e a t t o r n e y r e c e i v e d t o r n o t . I d i d n t

2 3 as k f o r a r e c e i p t .

2 4 Q Now, when t comes t o t h e money t h a t you gave

2 5 t o Mr . S c o t t t o g i v e t o your a t t o r n e y f o r c o u r t

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Yes.

Do you b e l i e v e i t was more t han 3, 00 0 ?

No .

So, i t was be tween 1 ,500 and 3,000?

Yes.

Would you be s u r p r i s e d i i t was more t han

No, I would be , t o o , s u r p r i s e d . No.

Okay. So, somewhere i n t h a t r an g e ; i s t h a t

Uh-huh .

Now, I want t o make s u r e t h i s i s s t i l l t r u e .

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16 n o t p a i d any money t o an en v i ro n men t a l c o n s u l t a n t f o r

17 work o r s i t e a s se s sme n t a t D e e r f i e l d Dry C l e a n e r s ; i s n t

t h a t c o r r e c t ?

A No.

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2 1 money t o an e nv i r o nme n ta l c o n s u l t a n t , on your b e h a l f ,

22 s i n c e J u l y 1 , 2 012?

2 3 A. No .

2 4 Q Do you have any r eco rds o r r e c e i p t s f o r t h e

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No.

Have you p a i d any amount o f money f o r c i v i l

4 p e n a l t i e s owed t o DEP, s i n c e J u l y 1 , 2012?

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I d o n t know.

You d o n t know? Do you t h i n k you would r e c a l l

pay ing - - Do you r e c a l l -

A No.

Q - - t h a t you owe - - The r e s a judgment ag a i n s t

10 you f o r c i v i l p e n a l t i e s owed t o DEP; i s t h a t c o r r e c t ?

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Yes.

Okay. Have you p a i d any amount o f money

13 t owards t h a t j u d g men t , s i n c e J u l y 1 , 2012 , o t h e r t h a n

14 what y o u v e g iv e n y o u r a t t o r n e y ?

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MR SMITH-KENNEDY: Okay .

MR NICHOLS: C i v i l p e n a l t i e s ? I m s o r r y .

I m t r y i n g t o c l a r i f y i n my mind. Are you t a l k i n g

a b o u t t h e c o s t o f p r o s e c u t i o n ?

MR . SMITH-KENNEDY: No , t h a t would be j u s t

c o s t s .

MR NICHOLS: Or t h e one where t h e y - - Okay;

wh e r e t h ey send t h e b i l l ? Okay.

MR SMITH-KENNEDY: R ig h t .

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3 Q. The o r i g i n a l judgment had, maybe, 30,000 i n

4 c i v i l p e n a l t i e s . Does t h a t abou t r i g h t , i n t h i s case?

A. I d o n t know. I c a n t remember .


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MR SMITH-KENNEDY: Ab so lu te ly. We ' l l t a k e a

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b reak . Go o f f t h e r e c o r d , p l e a s e .

(Thereupon, a b r i e f r e c e s s was he ld . )

11 THE COURT REPORTER: W e r e back on.

1 2 BY MR SMITH-KENNEDY:

1 3 Q. A l l r i g h t , Ms. P o i t i e r ; can - - I 'm going t o

14 con t i nue wi th going t h rough t h e months . I 'm going t o

15 Because t h e r e was, I guess , an i s s u e abou t what I

16 was t a l k i n g abou t wi th t im es , I 'm going t o s t a r t back

17 with J u l y 1, 2 01 2 .

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Yes?

Can you t e l l me t h e amount t h a t was sp en t

t owards s i t e as s e s s men t i n J u l y o f 2012?

A.

Q.

No .

Can you t e l l me t h e amount t h a t was sp en t

23 towards s i t e as s e s s men t i n Augus t o f 2 012?

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Can you t e l l me t h e amount t h a t was s p e n t

t owards s i t e a s s e s s m e n t i n Octobe r o f 2 0 12?

A No

Q Can you t e l l me t h e amount t h a t was s p e n t

7 t owards s i t e a s s e s s m e n t by you o r on y o u r b e h a l f ,

8 d u r i n g any month s i n c e November o f 2012?

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No.

Why do you n o t know what amounts have been

s p e n t t owards s i t e a s s e s s m e n t s i n c e J u l y 1 2 012?

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13 Many d ay s I c o u ld n o t g e t o u t o f bed . I v e b een

1 4 m e n t a l l y d r a i n e d . I am n o t t a k i n g t h e t ime t o ch eck

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Q Have you b een h o s p i t a l i z e d , a t any t im e s i n c e

17 J u l y 1 2012?

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Yes s i r .

How many t im e s have you b een h o s p i t a l i z e d ?

Once o v e r n i g h t .

And wh en was t h a t ?

March 28 2013 .

Before March 28 2 0 13 h ave you b een u n d er t h e

2 4 s u p e r v i s i o n o f any s o r t o f p h y s i c i a n ?

2 5 A Yes.

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Q And I d o n t n eed d e t a i l s . When was t h a t ?

2 A Ever y week.

3 Q So y o u r e s e e i n g a d o c t o r e v e r y week?

4 A I saw a d i f f e r e n t d o c t o r e v e r y week f o r

5 December and F e b r u a r y o f 2013.

6 Q You mean December o f 2 012?

7 A 2 12 . I went e v e r y week. I n F e b r u a r y o f

8 2013 I went e v e r y week. Then t broke o f f w i t h s u r g e r y

9 on t h e t w e n t y - e i g h t h ; March t w e n t y - e i g h t h o f 2 13 .

10 Q What was t h e s u r g e r y f o r ?

A Back s p i n e .

12 Q Were you s e e i n g

13 A Spine s t i m u l a t o r , i m p l a n t . B e f o r e t h e n - - You

14 d i d n t a s k me t h a t .

15 Q Okay. From December 2012 t o F e b r u a r y 2013 II

16 were you s e e i n g t h e d o c t o r f o r p ro b lems r e l a t e d t o y o u r

17 b ack ?

18 A Yes.

19 Q Any o t h e r major i s s u e s b e s i d e s t h e back?

2 A Leg s .

2 1 Q Okay?

22 A For t h r e e weeks I went t o a n e u r o s u rg e o n i n

2 3 November o f 2 012.

24 Q Was t h a t r e l a t e d t o y o u r l e g s ?

25 A No; t h a t was r e l a t e d t o my h ead my mind .

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2 so meth in g i n v o l v i n g y o u r mind?

No.

Okay?

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W h a t s t h e n a r c o t i c ?

O x y c o t i n .

Are you t a l k i n g O x y c o t i n t o d a y ?

Yes, s i r .

Have you had a p r e s c r i p t i o n f o r O x y c o t i n s i n c e

November o f 2 0 12 ?

A Yes, s i r .

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What a b o u t b e f o r e November o f 2012?

B e f o r e ?

Yes?

Ever y month , s i n c e 2 000 .

And t h i s i s I gu e s s p a r t o f p a i n management

19 f o r t h e b a c k o r l e g i s s u e s - -

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Uh-huh.

- - and s t u f f l i k e t h a t ? Okay.

Dr . S e i n f e l d .

Okay. Have you b een p r e s c r i b e d - - Wel l , l e t

2 4 me change t h a t .

2 5 Are you t a k i n g any o t h e r m e d i c a t i o n s b e s i d e s

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1 O x y c o t i n t h a t would a f f e c t - - t h a t would , p o s s i b l y ,

2 a f f e c t y o u r menta l c a p a c i t y o r a b i l i t y t o t e s t i f y t oday?

3 A No.

Q Okay. So, t h a t s

5 A I d o n t t h i n k s o .

6 Q - - t h e o n ly n a r c o t i c t h a t y o u r e t a k i n g ?

7 A Wel l , I m t a k i n g - - Yeah. They d o n t - - I t s

8 n o t a n a r c o t i c ; Cym ba l t a .

9 Q Okay. Yeah; t h a t s f i n e . And b y n a r c o t i c , I

10 d o n t mean t h a t i n a b a d way o r a n y th in g l i k e t h a t .

11 A I t s bad . I t s bad . You c o u l d s a y i t .

1 2 Q Wel l , t h e r e s - - We r e n o t t a l k i n g a b o u t

1 3 i l l e g a l p r e s c r i p t i o n s .

14 A R ig h t .

15 Q Drugs - - I t s unde r a d o c t o r s - -

16 A I t s n o t abus e .

17 Q c a r e . I t s n o t a b u s e ; r i g h t .

18 A Uh-huh. Yeah, I n e e d them. Uh-huh.

19 Q So, b e f o r e November o f 2 012, why d i d n t you

2 0 comply w i th t h e c o u r t s o r d e r t o sp en d , a t l e a s t , 1 , 2 00

2 1 a month t owards s i t e a s s e s s m e n t?

22 A I d i d n t have i t ; no money.

23 Q Did you have t h e money i n J u l y o f 2 012 t o

24 sp en d t owards s i t e a s s e s s m e n t?

25 A. Yes.

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Did you have t h e money i n Augus t o f 2 0 12?

Yes.

Did you have t h e money t o spend towards s i t e

4 a s s e s s me n t i n Sep tember o f 2 0 12?

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No .

Did you have , a t l e a s t , 1 ,200 t o spend

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MR NICHOLS: He' s a s k ing you whether - - May I

e x p l a i n i t ?

MR SMITH-KENNEDY: Su r e .

MR NICHOLS: He s a s k i n g you whether you had

t h e money t o go, s p e c i f i c a l l y , t o s i t e a s s e s s me n t ?

What h e s n o t a s k ing you i s wh e t h e r you had t h e

money t o g i v e t o me t o be - -

THE WITNESS: Oh, no.

MR . SMITH-KENNEDY: You 've g o t t o l i s t e n t o ,

e x a c t l y , what h e s a s k i n g you.

THE WITNESS: No . I d i d n t u n d e r s t a n d i t .

Now, you made me u n d e r s t a n d i t . But , I d i d n t

u n d e r s t a n d i t b e f o r e .

MR NICHOLS: And, I m s o r r y . I m n o t t r y i n g

t o coach he r o r a n y t h i n g . I j u s t - - I can se e

where t h a t s g o i n g .

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have t h e money t o spend - - Did you have 1 , 2 00 t o spend

towards s i t e a s se s sme n t?

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I n Augus t o f 2012, d i d you have t h e money t o

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No .

- - towards - - Le t me f i n i s h . Okay?

12 But , somet ime be tween J u l y 1 , 2 012 and November o f

13 2 0 12 , you gave , a t l e a s t 2 ,500 t o your a t t o r n e y o r t o

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o r d e r - - Wel l , w i t h i n a few months o f J u l y 1 , 2 012, you

d i d spend - - you d i d g i v e money t o your a t t o r n e y t o

sp e n d t o w a rd s s i t e a s s e s sment?

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The funds f o r t h e c o u r t o r d e r ye s .

Okay. A f t e r A t w h a t e v e r p o i n t you c o u l d

n o t l o n g e r g i v e money t o your a t t o r n e y f o r compl i ance

2 4 w i t h t h e c o u r t o r d e r what was t h e r e a son f o r t h a t

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Ordered by t h e C i t y o f D e e r f i e l d t o c l e a n up

2 85 West H i l l s b o r o Bouleva rd ; r e p a i r , t o f i x a r o o f , t o

3 g e t homeowner' s i n s u r a n c e .

4 Q Okay . Pause r i g h t t h e r e b e f o r e you t e l l me

5 abou t t h e o t h e r t h i n g s .

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A. 283 Sou thwes t 1 s t Te r r a c e .

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9 t i me , c o r r e c t ?

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Yes, t h a t was my home.

How much d i d t h a t c o s t ?

A t o t a l o f about 4 ,000 .

Where d i d you g e t t h e money t o f i x t h e roo f?

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17 mean n o t pa y ing your a t t o r n e y money t o go towards s i t e

18 as s e s s men t ; i s t h a t c o r r e c t ?

1 9 A I g u es s ; o r , whateve r he d i d w i t h i t I d o n t

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Okay.

Yes. I d i d n t have no money t o g i v e him no

Are t h e r e any o t h e r f i n a n c i a l r easons , f o r

25 t h i s change i n your f i n a n c i a l s t a t u s , b e s i d e s pa y in g a

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c l e a n - u p o r d e r by t h e c i t y and f o r t h e new r o o f ?

2 A No.

3 Q. T h a t s i t ?

4 A They were t h e two t h i n g s t h a t g o t me.

5 Q Okay. When d i d you pay f o r t h e new r o o f ?

6 A Tha t had t o be O c t o b e r ; October o f 2012. I m

7 n o t e x a c t on t h e t i m e , d a t e , month.

8 Q Did you bor row money t o pay f o r t h e new r o o f ?

9 A Yes, I d i d .

10 Q Who d i d you bor row money f rom?

A Anthony.

12 Q Have you p a i d him back?

13 A Yes .

14 Q And t h a t s t h e guy t h a t you - -

15 A Anthony Thompson.

6 Q - - owe, l i k e , - -

7 A 5 , 000.

8 Q - - 5 ,000?

9 A Yes .

20 Q Okay. When d i d you pay him back f o r t h a t ?

21 A I p a i d him b a c k - - I gave him some o f t i n

22 December and some o f t i n J a n u a r y.

23 Q Where d i d t h e money come f rom t o pay him b a c k

24 w i t h ?

25 A Where d i d t h e money come f rom t o pay him?

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Out o f my c h e c k .

Out o f y o u r s o c i a l s e c u r i t y check?

Out o f my s o c i a l s e c u r i t y and my r e t i r e m e n t

Okay. Can you g e t a l o a n f rom Mr. Thompson

No; h i s w if e w o n t l o a n me no more .

But , you p a i d him b a c k ; d i d n t you?

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No. I d o n t t h i n k s o ; b e c a u s e , I h a v e n t been

1 9 a b l e t o r e a c h him s i n c e F e b r ua r y. He s toppe d a n swe r i n g

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Up t o a b o u t 5 00 . I b e l i e v e I c o u l d g e t i t

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why d i d n t you spend any money t o wa r d s s i t e a s s e s s me n t

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Right?

God. I d i d n t have any money.

What was t h a t ? I m s o r r y . I d i d n t c a t c h t h e

I d i d n t have any money . I d o n t have any

When w i l l you have t h e money?

When w i l l I ? I can t f o r e s e e any money, r i g h t

11 now. I c a n t f o r e s e e ha v in g any money; e s p e c i a l l y n o t

12 b e i n g a b l e t o work.

13 Q Have you had any me d ic a l b i l l s s i n c e J u l y 1 ,

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I s t h a t be c a u se you have i n s u r a n c e and i t s -

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Okay. Let me f i n i s h . And t h e i n s u r a n c e i s

1 9 p a y ing f o r you r me d ic a l b i l l s and medica t i ons ; i s t h a t

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p r e s c r i p t i o n ?

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1 Q No? Do you have good i n s u r a n c e ?

2 A. E x c e l l e n t i n s u r a n c e .

3 Q. I s t h a t t h r o u g h y o u r r e t i r e m e n t ?

A County.

5 Q County h e a l t h s y s t e m o r c o u n t y - -

6 A The S t a t e .

7 Q Okay?

8 A. The S t a t e . Uh-huh .

9 MR NICHOLS: Can I a s k h e r a q u ic k q u e s t i o n

10 t h a t mig h t c l e a r up so meth in g f o r you o r I can

11 w a i t ? I t s up t o you .

12 MR SMITH KENNEDY: Pau se .

13 Thereupon, a d i s c u s s i o n was h e l d o f f t h e r e c o r d .


15 Q A l l r i g h t , Ms. P o i t i e r , we have t a k e n a l i t t l e

16 b r e a k h e r e .

17 Have you t a l k e d w i th p e o p l e abou t t h e i s s u e s

18 r e g a r d i n g y o u r m e d i c a l b i l l s and co -p ay men t s and s t u f f

19 l i k e t h a t ?

2 0 A Yes, I d i d .

2 1 Q Okay. So, do you have o r have you had

22 co -p ay men t s f o r v a r i o u s m e d i c a l e x p e n s e s , i n t h e p a s t

2 3 y e a r ?

2 4 A. Yes.

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Now, what i s - - I s t h a t a co-pay?

Yes. I pay 90 f o r Oxyco t in ; 90 on Byeta

p h o n e t i c ) , 21 on d i a b e t i c s t u f f .

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I s on what?

G l i p i z i d e . That ' s a me d ic in e .

I 'm j u s t going t o p u t t as me d ic in e .

Uh-huh.

Okay. Do you r e c e i v e a s s i s t a n c e f rom o t h e r

12 pe op le i n keep ing t r a c k o f your me d ic a l b i l l s and

13 co-payments and s t u f f l i k e t h a t ?

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Sharavon?

P o i t i e r , S-H-A-R-A-V-0- N .

MR SMITH-KENNEDY: I s t Poi t e r ? Have I

been say ing your name wrong?

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MR SMITH-KENNEDY: Okay. m s o r r y . So,

P o i t i e r i s b e t t e r ?

THE WITNESS: Uh-huh.

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MR SMITH-KENNEDY: Okay. We l l , I f e e l l i k e

an i d i o t now.

THE WITNESS: No, you d o n t .


THE WITNESS: You h av e t he Fr ench / Baham i an

p r o n u n c i a t i o n ; you do.

MR SMITH-KENNEDY: Th e what p r o n u n c i a t i o n ?

THE WITNESS: Fr ench / Baham i an .

MR NICHOLS: Now, y o u v e become q u i t e

w o r l d l y.

MR SMITH-KENNEDY: Wel l , t h a n k you . I d i d

t a k e Fren ch i n h i g h s c h o o l . But , I don t wa n t t o

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1 9 Q. So, does sh e a s s i s t you i n k eep in g t r a c k o f

2 0 what you s p e n d on h e a l t h c a r e ?

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Why would sh e have knowledge a b o u t what you

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Sh e s my d a u g h t e r ; my e l d e s t d a u g h t e r.

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1 i n v o l v e h e a l t h c a r e and m e d ic a l b i l l s ?

2 A A l l m e d i c a l . She s my s u r r o g a t e .

3 Q What s h e r a d d r e s s?

4 A 332 So u th wes t 1 0 th C o u r t , D e e r f i e l d Beach,

5 F l o r i d a , 3 3441.

Q What c o u r t was t h a t ?

7 A 1 0 th C o u r t .

8 Q Lik e t h e number t e n ?

9 A Uh-huh.

10 Q Okay. Do you know how much y o u ve had t o

11 sp en d on any s o r t o f p r o c e d u r e s o r s u r g e r i e s s i n c e J u l y

1 2 1 , 201 2 ?

1 3 A No.

14 Q Does Ms Sh arav o n P o i t i e r know?

1 5 A I m n o t s u r e .

16 Q Do you have r e a so n t o b e l i e v e t h a t she may

1 7 know?

1 8 A She would be t h e o n l y one t o know

19 Q Does she r e c e i v e m e d ic a l b i l l s and s t a t e m e n t s

2 0 on y o u r b e h a l f ?I

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22 Q Do you l e t h e r l o o k a t t h o s e m a t e r i a l s ? I

2 3 A No.

2 4 Q Why do you t h i n k s h e would know, then? I

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Q. Okay. But , l e t s sa y, l i ke y o u r i n s u r a n c e

You had s u r g e r y f o r so m e t h i n g t h i s y e a r , c o r r e c t ?

A. Uh-hu h .

Q. Your i n s u r a n c e , what do t h e y c h a rge you f o r

s u r g e r y ?

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I h a v e n t r e c e i v e d a b i l l y e t t o know.

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March t w e n t y - e i g h t h .

o you have me d ic a l b i l l s a t y o u r house?

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l e t t e r s t h a t I h a ve .

I haven t opened some

Q. A l l r i g h t . Wel l , l e t me g e t r i g h t t o t h e

p o i n t .

Have me d ic a l b i l l s been a s i g n i f i c a n t c o s t f o r you

i n t h e p a s t ye a r ?

A. Not f o r me, no.

Q. So, have you been s p e n d i n g 1, 2 00 a month on

2 0 me d ic a l b i l l s i n s t e a d o f p a y i n g f o r a s i t e a s se s sme n t?

2 1 A. No. I h a v e n t had t h e money t o pay me d i c a l

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had t o pay me d ic a l b i l l s ?

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B u t you e x p e c t t h a t t o happen?

Yes I do.

And do you e x p e c t t h a t t o happen b e c a u s e o f

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Q Do you know w h e t h e r t h e March t w e n t y - e i g h t h

s u r g e r y was c o v e r e d by an i n s u r a n c e p o l i c y ?

A Yes t was.

Q. So p r e s u m a b l y t h e i n s u r a n c e i s go ing t o

1 6 c o v e r some s i g n i f i c a n t p o r t i o n o f t h e expense ; c o r r e c t ?

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MR SMITH-KENNEDY: I m s o r r y . L e t me f i n i s h .


2 0 Q So i s t t r u e t h a t i n s u r a n c e i s g o i n g t o

2 1 c o v e r some s i g n i f i c a n t p o r t i o n o f t h e b i l l f o r t h e March

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MR SMITH-KENNEDY: Okay. Remember t h e

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t h e r e a r e a l o t o f r e a s o n s .

One r e a s o n i s so t h a t t h e Cour t R e p o r t e r can

a c c u r a t e l y t y p e t h i n g s b e c a u s e someone e l s e c o u l d

b e l o o k i n g a t t h i s one d ay.

I may n o t ev en b e t h e a t t o r n e y on t h i s c a s e a t

some p o i n t w h ich means so m e a t t o r n e y w i th DEP i s

n o t go ing t o remember, you know, how t h i n g s went

h e r e . So, t h e y m i g h t be c o n f u s e d .

THE WITNESS: I know.

MR SMITH-KENNEDY: So,

MR NICHOLS: I t p r o t e c t s you . I t makes y o u r

s t a t e m e n t more a c c u r a t e i f i t s i n c o n t e x t .

THE WITNESS: Uh-huh . I u n d e r s t a n d .



16 Q Has anyone , t o y o u r knowledge, p a i d f o r

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Okay. B e s id e s t h e i n s u r a n c e company?

B e s i d e t h e i n s u r a n c e company? Th at would be

Sh arav o n P o i t i e r .

Q I s s h e - - Has s h e p a i d f o r medic ine o u t o f h e r

own money o r money t h a t y o u v e g iv e n h e r ?

2 4 A. Her own money. I ve n e v e r g i v e n h e r money f o r

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l i k e t h a t on y o u r b e h a l f ?

A . No.

MR SMITH KENNEDY: I m s o r r y . What wa s t h e

l a s t q u e s t i o n ?

MR . NICHOLS: Whether any co - paym en t have b een

p a i d by anyone b e s i d e s h e r .

MR SMITH KENNEDY: Le t me b a c k up h e r e . Oh

y eah . I s p e c i f i e d t h e d o l l a r amount i n t h e

p r e s c r i p t i o n s .

MR NI CHOLS: Okay. So co -p ay men t s o v e r and

above t h e - -

MR . SMITH KENNEDY: L ik e a d o c t o r s v i s i t .

MR NICHOLS: Okay. Did you u n d e r s t a n d t h e

q u e s t i o n ?

THE WITNESS: Yes.

MR NICHOLS: Th ere a r e co -p ay men t s f o r y o u r

p r e s c r i p t i o n s an d t h e n t h e r e a r e co -p ay men t s f o r

m e d i c a l v i s i t s .

THE WITNESS: No. And I answer ed n o .

MR NICHOLS: Okay.



23 Q. So when y o u d go t o t h e d o c t o r , i t h e r e i s

2 4 i t h e y wa n t you t o p ay a co -p ay men t you pay i t

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A Yes .

MR SMITH-KENNEDY: Okay. I m go ing t o move

t o t h e l a s t phase h e r e .

I m j u s t going t o a s k you abou t whe the r

5 c e r t a i n t h i n g s have changed s i n c e 2 011 .

6 I a l r e a d y d i d a l o t o f t h a t ; b u t , I m go ing t o

7 a s k you abou t some s p e c i f i c amounts t h a t you

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can you t e l l me whether you s t i l l own 288? I t would be

2nd S t r e e t I t h i n k .

A 3 rd .

Q 3 r d S t r e e t ?

A Yes .

Q Do you s t i l l own 288 3 rd S t r e e t ?

A Yes .

Q 278 3 r d S t r e e t ?

A No. They - - T h a t s up i n t h e a i r . Somebody

i s c l a i m i n g i t

Q Do you r e c e i v e an y money f o r 278 3rd S t r ee t ?

A No, s i r .

Q Do you r e c e i v e any l e a s e money f o r 2 88?

A Yes .

Q Do you r e c e i v e any money f o r 2 69?


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A. No.

2 Q And t h a t was 3 r d S t r e e t a l s o , c o r r e c t ?

3 A Th at wa s w h at?

4 Q What was t h a t a l s o on 3 r d S t r e e t ?

5 A No; 26 9 i s Sou t h D i x i e Highway.

6 Q Okay. Now, t h e s e p r o p e r t i e s t h a t I v e j u s t

7 spoken o f w ere i n f o r e c l o s u r e a t some p o i n t ?

8 A Yes .

9 Q Okay . And t h a t ' s r e l a t e d t o why p e o p l e

10 s t o p p e d p a y i n g t he r e n t o r you c o u l d no - - I

A Yes.

1 2 Q - - l o n g e r c o l l e c t r e n t ; c o r r e c t ?

1 3 A Ye s .

14 Q Okay. Now, i n Decembe r o f 2 01 1 , do you r e c a l l

15 t h a t you s t a t e d t h a t you g o t a b o u t 22 , 0 0 0 p e r y e a r i n

16 r e n t s ?

17 A T h a t ' s where I made t h e m i s t a k e , a t t h a t t i m e .

18 Q Wel l , I m t a l k i n g abou t p e r y e a r ? IJ

1 9 A Yeah; t h a t was a m i s t a k e b a s e d on what I I

2 0 a c t u a l l y c o l l e c t e d , i you r e c a l l .

2 1 Q Okay. o you r e c a l l t h a t on a document g i v e n

22 t o EP you s t a t e d 22 , 000 a month?

23 A Yes. Th a t s when I made t h e m i s t a k e .

2 4 Q And you l a t e r changed t h a t t o 22 , 000 a y ~ a r

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So, t h e m i s t a k e you made was you s a i d month

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Q Okay. So, do you r e c a l l t h a t , a t our

d e p o s i t i o n , i n December o f 2011, you s t a t e d t h a t you

c o l l e c t e d abou t 22, 000 p e r y e a r i n r e n t s ?

A Tha t was t h e m i s t a k e .

Q So, you were n o t c o l l e c t i n g 2 2, 000 i n r e n t s ?

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No, s i r .

Wel l , what were you co l l e c t i n g b a c k t h e n ?

I hav e t o go - -

MS. FELICIA POITIER: Pay a t t e n t i o n .

THE WITNESS: I f I m no t l i s t e n i n g what am I

su p p o se d t o say?

MR NICHOLS: Wel l , i you don ' t u n d e r s t a n d

t h e q u e s t i o n , l e t h im know.

MS. FELICIA POITIER: Pay a t t e n t i o n t o wh a t

he ' s s a y i n g . You ' r e n o t l i s t e n i n g . You' r e

assuming what h e s s a y i n g .

MR SMITH-KENNEDY: Okay. A l l r i g h t . Of f t h e

r e c o r d .

(Thereupon, a d i s c u s s i o n wa s h e l d o f f t h e r e c o r d . )


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Okay.

Uh-huh .

o you r e c a l l my a s k i n g you how much you

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1 A. Yes.

2 Q Okay. So, - - And t h e n , do you r e c a l l , I l a t e r

3 a s k e d you i f you were g e t t i n g 22,000 p e r month f o r

4 anywhere and you s a i d no, on my word o f h o n o r. I s t h a t

5 c o r r e c t ?

A R i g h t .

7 Q Okay. So, has you r e n t a l income gone up o r

8 down s i n c e December o f 2011?

9 A Not ba se d on t h o s e f i g u r e s . I t s l e s s t h a n

10 t h a t .

1 1 Q I t s l e s s t h a n 22 , 000 a y e a r now?

1 2 A. L e ss .

13 Q Less? Okay. How much do you t h i n k y o u r e

14 c o l l e c t i n g i n r e n t r i g h t now?

1 5 A R i g h t now, f o r a y e a r , i t would be - - I m n o t

16 I 1 m no t s u r e . But , I do know - -

17 THE WITNESS: Can I bo r row your p e n c i l ?

18 MR NICHOLS: Yes; j u s t t r y t o r e s i s t t h e

19 t e m p t a t i o n t o t h i n k ou t loud ,

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