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The Naonal Presbyterian A News Magazine of the National Council of Presbyterian Fourth Day Movements and the National Council of Presbyterian Cursillo Volume 13, No 4 www.days3.com October, 2011 Dave Hamilton, one of our team of trainers who lead our National Training program, sent this in. Presbyterian Cursillo and Pilgrimage From A to Z Wow, that was such a great Weekend and my faith and understanding of my relationship with the liv- ing Christ grew to new levels. I am excited to be home and looking at my environment through ―new‖ eyes. I have some guidelines about how to apply my growth and enthusiasm to ―my world‖ and the support groups in my church. However, I feel like I also want to continue to grow within my 4th Day Community, but I just didn't get an ade- quate perspective of how the 4th Day and the Community works and how I can support it. This is not a new feeling or perspective as a mem- ber of the 4 th Day and you aren't the first person to feel that way. Your National Council of Presby- terian 4th Day Movements and National Council of Presbyterian Cursillo have recognized this need and have adopted a Training Program, developed by Tom Fox of the GAPC. It is designed to assist you and your community to grow and to "reach out and touch" as many individuals from your en- vironment as possible. This National Training Program has now been presented 4 times and the National Councils are supporting and subsidizing the opportunity for you to make it available to your community (and neighboring communities, as well) at a site of your choosing! They are do- ing so by covering the cost of training materials and Trainer travel costs What do you need to do to have this 8 hour Program presented in your community? Your Council/Secretariat needs to agree to sponsor this training in your community. This means that they will be responsible for all local logistics (meals, facilities, housing, assistance to the Trainer, etc.) and to establish a nominal charge [normally $10 - $20 person] to cover local meal and facility costs. Your Council/Secretariat, or a designated rep- resentative, needs to contact one of the National Trainers [Bill Cowen - 703-528- 8099; Dave Hamilton - 501-915-9015; or Bart Henson -713-780-2138] to explore timing options and facility requirements. Your community will need to develop and manage all local advertising, facilities, housing, meals, etc. Remember, this training is available to any 4 th Day member who wants to expand their under- standing of these great Cursillo and Pilgrimage Programs and to better understand how they can make their community more active and vital in the life of God’s servants! Dave In This Issue We pretty generally feel that we do a good job at running our weekends. Do we? How can a better trained fourth day work to im- prove our weekends and thus our ministry? This issue deals primarily with what it takes to make folks who have attended Cursillo or Pilgrimage become active and weekend staff and useful in the fourth day. Once again, We’ve managed to sneak in a little inspiration and humor. Tom

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The National Presbyterian October, 2011 Volume 13, Number 4 Page 1
The National Presbyterian
National Council of
Dave Hamilton, one of our team of trainers who
lead our National Training program, sent this in.
Presbyterian Cursillo and
Wow, that was such a great Weekend and my faith
and understanding of my relationship with the liv-
ing Christ grew to new levels. I am excited to be
home and looking at my environment through
new eyes. I have some guidelines about how to
apply my growth and enthusiasm to my world
and the support groups in my church. However, I
feel like I also want to continue to grow within my
4th Day Community, but I just didn't get an ade-
quate perspective of how the 4th Day and the
Community works and how I can support it.
This is not a new feeling or perspective as a mem-
ber of the 4th Day and you aren't the first person to
feel that way. Your National Council of Presby-
terian 4th Day Movements and National Council
of Presbyterian Cursillo have recognized this need
and have adopted a Training Program, developed
by Tom Fox of the GAPC. It is designed to assist
you and your community to grow and to "reach
out and touch" as many individuals from your en-
vironment as possible. This National Training
Program has now been presented 4 times and the
National Councils are supporting and subsidizing
the opportunity for you to make it available to
your community (and neighboring communities,
as well) at a site of your choosing! They are do-
ing so by covering the cost of training materials
and Trainer travel costs
What do you need to do to have this 8 hour
Program presented in your community?
Your Council/Secretariat needs to agree to
sponsor this training in your community.
This means that they will be responsible
for all local logistics (meals, facilities,
housing, assistance to the Trainer, etc.)
and to establish a nominal charge
[normally $10 - $20 person] to cover local
meal and facility costs.
resentative, needs to contact one of the
National Trainers [Bill Cowen - 703-528-
8099; Dave Hamilton - 501-915-9015; or
Bart Henson -713-780-2138] to explore
timing options and facility requirements.
Your community will need to develop and
manage all local advertising, facilities,
housing, meals, etc.
standing of these great Cursillo and Pilgrimage
Programs and to better understand how they can
make their community more active and vital in the
life of God’s servants! Dave
In This Issue
We pretty generally feel that we do a good job at
running our weekends. Do we?
How can a better trained fourth day work to im-
prove our weekends and thus our ministry? This
issue deals primarily with what it takes to make
folks who have attended Cursillo or Pilgrimage
become active and weekend staff and useful in the
fourth day.
Once again, We’ve managed to sneak in a little
inspiration and humor.
Tom
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Contents 1 Cursillo & Pilgrimage From A toZ 1 In This Issue
2 Cursillista Diagnosis
4 Why Join A Renewal (Reunion) Group?
4 National Council Meets
5 Colorado Springs Meeting
8 Who Needs You At The Serenade?
9 How To Connect A Table Group
9 From The Committee
11 To The PDPC 25 Staff
12 Bi-Directional Piety
13 10 Reminders For Reunion (Renewal) Groups
14 Where Do You Keep Your Valuables?
14 Web Sites
15 Scheduled weekends
October, 2011 Volume 13, No 4
A Publication of The National Council of Presbyterian Fourth Day Movements and
The National Council of Presbyterian Cursillo
The Communities: Alabama Presbyterian Cursillo Arkansas Presbyterian Cursillo
Austin (Texas) Presbyterian Pilgrimage Chicagoland Presbyterian Pilgrimage
Colorado Presbyterian Pilgrimage Eastern Oklahoma Presbyterian Cursillo Eastern Virginia Presbyterian Pilgrimage
Florida Presbyterian Cursillo Georgia Presbyterian Cursillo Houston Presbyterian Cursillo Indiana Presbyterian Cursillo
James (Virginia) Presbyterian Pilgrimage Louisiana Presbyterian Cursillo
Michigan Presbyterian Pilgrimage Mississippi Presbyterian Cursillo
Nebraska/Iowa Presbyterian Pilgrimage North Carolina Presbyterian Pilgrimage
North Texas Presbyterian Pilgrimage Oklahoma Presbyterian Pilgrimage
Palo Duro (Texas) Presbyterian Cursillo Peaks (Virginia) Presbyterian Pilgrimage
Shenandoah (Virginia) Presbyterian Pilgrimage South Carolina Presbyterian Pilgrimage Tennessee Valley Presbyterian Cursillo
Editor—Tom Fox [email protected]
you and forgives you—that’s the best
twofer ever!”
Cursillista Diagnosis:
Diagnosis Confirmed:
Still Too Much Tom There’s still way too much of Tom Fox in the
Cursillista. There’s not nearly enough of every-
body else.
Write an article about something of interest and or
value to our fourth day folks. Something that will
help keep Cursillo and Pilgrimage going well.
Prognosis: Still Too Much of Tom
Unless you send in an article to be published in
the Cursillista. Send it too [email protected]
Deadline for the December issue is 11/30/2011.
Next Issue
blessed season - how we can honor and cherish it.
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It’s two for the price of one, Roy, like the way God loves
us and forgives us.
The Challenge We Face
of pilgrims on our weekends has declined dramat-
ically. We typically respond by saying that ...it
was still a great weekend…
The last weekend my wife Sandy and I worked -
GPC 38 - was a great weekend, but had only 15
pilgrims, instead of the planned for 30 to 36.
It was a great weekend, but 15 or more people
who should have been there missed out on the
opportunity to attend a Cursillo weekend.
Is it that the Holy Spirit is calling fewer people to
attend Cursillo and Pilgrimage weekends? No - I
doubt that very much. The need is at least as great
as it has been in the past.
People have always been hard of listening when it
comes to hearing and responding to God’s call.
Now, with high unemployment and a tough econ-
omy, it takes more to convince some people to
accept the call to attend our weekends; but, is the
economy the whole reason - or even the main rea-
son, for our declining attendance?
No, I believe there is a deeper reason.
As you will recall, the purpose of a Cursillo
method weekend retreat is to inspire the new Cur-
sillistas to return home and share God’s love with
friends and neighbors in reforming the community
there.
ion groups - some call them Renewal groups.
There is a double problem here - how do we - who
are not ourselves very active in these fourth day
essential activities - convince the new Cursillistas
to become involved in programs we ourselves
largely ignore?
Should we try do as I say, not as I do?
About all we do now is to suggest they try to find
an existing Reunion group that has openings, or to
start a new one - all by themselves.
Then we sit back and bemoan the lack of involve-
ment by the new Fourth Day members!
I’m at least as much to blame as anyone for this!
On GPC 38 I had as fine a group of pilgrims at
my table as I’ve ever known - and an outstanding
table co-leader, but I’ve had virtually no contact
with them since.
form into Reunion groups - considering that their
members usually come from widely spread out
locations. Our table group at GPC 38 had mem-
bers who lived more than 150 miles apart.
There’s more to be said on what can be done to
keep table groups in touch on page 7 in this issue
of The Cursillista.
tasked to find a group for the pilgrim(s) they
sponsor, as well as to get them invited to join the
group.
given a list of the proposed Reunion groups for
the pilgrims. Staff members who are part of each
of the Reunion groups should be asked to encour-
age the pilgrims to attend. Assuming your com-
munity has someone on the council responsible
for Reunion groups, the whole process should be
co-ordinated through that person.
In the final analysis, though, things will not im-
prove until the existing fourth day people
(including me) begin to shoulder their responsibil-
ity to lead the new Cursillistas by example - into
the supporting structure of the fourth day.
That’s the challenge we face! Tom
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Among those present: were national officers: Beckey Lipe, National Moderator (second from right); Bill
Cowen, National Vice Moderator (2nd row, second from left); Kerry Goldmeyer, National Secretary
(second from right, front row) and Becky Beem, National Treasurer (behind Kerry’s left shoulder).
Gerri Kirby wrote expressing her concern that the
people of the fourth day should join Renewal
(Reunion) groups and offering some thoughts on
how to proceed.
Group?
about gathering participants after the Pilgrimage
experience. I found it difficult to get every ones
schedules and plan a renewal group in which eve-
ryone could participate. I believe a solution might
be to arrange 3 dates with the coordinator for the
months following the Pilgrimage and build them
into the literature that participants leave with so
everyone can mark those dates and renewal
groups can happen automatically.
A second idea, might be a "class" project, might
be making scarves for a soup kitchen with 2' x 5'
pieces of fleece to be handed out after people are
served food. Lay one piece of fabric on top of the
other, cut slits 1" deep around all sides and then
tie them to each other. It's a no-sew scarf. A short
term project might be painting the walls in a soup
kitchen or cleaning it....just being together in
Christ.
I thank you for this email and the work you do at
the council level.
meets? They Pray, Plan, Report, Discuss, Vote,
Eat, Sing, Worship, Fellowship, Share, and did I
mention Pray?
together.
in Douglasville, GA) in the spring of 1999. It has
met twice a year ever sense.
See the picture below and more detail on pages 5
and 6. Tom
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The following is extracted from the excellent
minutes produced by Kerry Goldmeyer.
Colorado Springs Meeting
Cursillo communities and seven of our thirteen
Pilgrimage communities gathered in Colorado
Springs August 26 & 27 for the 26th semiannual
meeting of our National Council(s).
It was a meeting noteworthy for its extensive dis-
cussions of major issues facing our Movement.
Hopefully this will lead to serious consideration of
some of our problems and adoption of solutions.
The main problems discussed were the declining
number of pilgrims our communities are experi-
encing on our weekends and the dwindling in-
volvement of our fourth day people.
Bill Cowen (Peaks) suggested that we need to un-
derstand our Lord’s wish for our ministry. He
believes that has not changed. He cannot believe
that the model - which has been successful for
over sixty years - is flawed. Bill believes that
people will go where the spiritual food is. He
thinks we need to examine our own involvement.
Maybe we can ask the lost fourth day people to
come and help rebuild the community.
Russ McNeal (NC) pointed out that people can get
a mindset that this is what I do, and the only
thing I do. He believes it’s helpful to move peo-
ple around from position to position to keep them
involved - just like at church.
David Hupp (Spiritual Advisor) noted that people
can become merely spectators in church. He says
we need to focus on what we are trying to accom-
plish. The risk is that people leave weekend and
mountain top experience and want all their Chris-
tian life to be mountain top time. The fourth day is
how we keep going. David mentioned the differ-
ence between having a membership model vs a
discipleship model. Too many members are
merely spectators.
oriented; this is not about results. He says we need
to watch our prejudice regarding how it should be
done; it works; spirituality vs methodology. He
says we tend to concentrate on the method and not
give enough credit to the spiritual side. He feels
we are too bottom line oriented. We tend to serve
others as we want to serve, we need to serve them
as they need to be served. He sees us as swimming
up stream as we love others - we bring them along
too. Christ who feeds us is strong enough.
Bart Henson (Houston) says we recruit from our
own circle, but that circle is getting older. Getting
through to those with children and incredible
schedules seems to be impossible. How do we
offer them the pearl of great price so that they
come? This apparently must cross age boundaries.
He says that young folk find authenticity and
community at Celebration - Houston’s youth
weekend - which they don’t find in church.
Becky Beem (Chicago) says the Presbyterian
church is looking for a method for renewal for
adults. She believes that we are truly here to pro-
vide the church with a tool for that revitalization.
Other matters discussed included a review of our
seminary scholarship program, regional training,
annual recertification of our communities, fund
raising, proper usage of fourth day membership
lists, our national publication (The Cursillista),
our web site, the change by some communities
from Cursillo to Pilgrimage and representation at
the June 2012 General Assembly with an exhibit
booth.
The seminary scholarship program is a provision
by our national council to pay the pilgrim fee for a
student in one of our denomination’s seminaries to
attend a Cursillo or Pilgrimage weekend in one of
our local communities. The purpose is to make
future clergy aware of and part of our program.
There is an article concerning regional training on
page 1 of this issue of the Cursillista.
Annual recertification has been inadvertently ig-
nored the last year or so, but our By-Laws require
each community, Cursillo or Pilgrimage, to certify
annually that they are in compliance with our By-
Laws and License. Kerry will send a recertifica-
tion form to each community as required.
As you might expect, in this economy, Fund Rais-
ing is a hot topic. Peaks generally does not do
fund raising, though they may have a basket in
back of sanctuary during Ultreyas if scholarship
fund is low. Arkansas has received donations
Continued on page 6
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from Verizon when an employee does volunteer
work as part of the fourth day, Wal-mart has a
similar program through their human resources
department. The Arkansas webmaster made a
Christmas Club. They sent a solicitation indicat-
ing that if you want to donate on a regular basis
the webmaster will send a reminder on whatever
schedule is indicated. They have several people
who now make donations regularly. Georgia has a
sheet with suggestions that is part of 4th day pack-
et on closing Sundays; they also send a letter ask-
ing for help in fall showing opportunities for giv-
ing including bequests. Louisiana PC has been
listed as instead of flowers after a death. North
Texas had a memorial golf tournament for George
Platt which included dinner and silent auction that
raised several thousand dollars. One of their new
council positions is for ongoing fund raising; they
have several churches with significant Cursillo
presence which have donated funds to pay for fees
for their members, and they have a large scholar-
ship fund. Arkansas asked if anyone knew of any
grants (one time or ongoing) that could be applied
for. South Carolina passed a basket at the spring
Welcome Home Ultreya very successfully.
North Carolina for some time the weekend Rector
(moderator/lay-coordinator) gift has been waived
and money donated to the scholarship fund in-
stead. Houston does a once a year solicitation.
Formally or informally in some communities,
staff will scholarship other staff or pilgrims, when
the need is known. Louisiana has begun having
one person with an eye to fund raising look at
funds needed for a weekend and the community
and think about how to obtain the needed funds.
They suggest the best time of year may be the end
of October to early November. This year their
council will have a telethon* to update personal
data and to solicit financial help from the commu-
nity. *Telephonethon?
communities have had problems with their mem-
bership roster being used for other than fourth day
business. In one case, a stalker gained access to
the location of a fourth day member. In other cas-
es, our lists have been used for commercial pur-
poses. A national volunteer organization, similar
in size to ours, has received legal advice to restrict
access to its rosters, allowing only those who are
specifically authorized.
tended to be published in even numbered months.
The matter for discussion was how to distribute it.
The editor would like it to be distributed to every
member of our fourth day as an attachment to an
e-mail. Others feel this is too much work, and just
want to stick it on a web site somewhere—with an
e-mail going out to the fourth day telling them
where to go to find it. (If you’re going to send out
an e-mail, anyway…) The editor will continue
producing the publication as long as he feels that
it is being put to use.
Our web site: Days3.com has been updated and
refreshed. A portion of the site is designed to help
recruit pilgrims through testimonies, FAQ’s and
other information. The rest of the website
www.days3.com/Day4.htm is for fourth day use
and is not intended for those who have not attend-
ed a weekend. Some of the sections there are;
About us, History, Cursillista Newsletters, Fourth
Day, Music, links, National Councils among oth-
ers. We have three other domain names which
should be working correctly soon.
Change from Cursillo to Pilgrimage is an issue
that has been around for years. Many feel that it
isn’t right for us to deprive members of other de-
nominations of the experience of attending Cur-
sillo. Some feel that it is the way to correct our
shrinking pilgrim lists. Others feel that our mis-
sion is to reform the Presbyterian Church, not the
entire Body of Christ. They point out that there
are plenty of other expressions of Cursillo spon-
sored by other denominations for their own mem-
bers. They also point to the problem of creating
second class Cursillistas as they restrict certain
roles in their communities to Presbyterians.
General Assembly, June 2012, Pittsburgh. The
General Assemblies of our denomination in 2008
and 2010 were held in areas where we had no rep-
resentatives so that, unlike the previous five Gen-
eral Assemblies, we did not have a booth in the
exhibit hall. There are several folks, however,
who have expressed willingness to man such a
booth. Page 10 of the June issue has a picture of
our most recent booth.
Continued from page 5
What Do We Do Well?
In Presbyterian Cursillo and Pilgrimage, what do
we do well? What needs improving?
How do we know? Just how can we tell?
One way is to try to determine whether or not
we’re fulfilling our purpose.
What is the purpose of Presbyterian Cursillo and
Pilgrimage? We’ve been taught:
The purpose of our Cursillo and Pilgrimage
retreats is to affect a specific, identifiable and
qualitative response in the participants. That
response is for them to return to where they
came from, and work to reform their worlds
after the Kingdom of God.
What defines a successful Cursillo or Pilgrimage?
Fred Keith, author of our manual, says that:
The standard of judgment for a Cursillo
Movement is, simply, to what extent are the
various environments in the [area] being Chris-
tianized, being transformed in Christ? To what
extent is Christian life being structured? If a
Cursillo Movement is doing this, it is success-
ful as a Cursillo Movement. If a Cursillo
Movement is not doing this, it may be doing
something good, but it is not successful as a
Cursillo Movement.
success of our Cursillo/Pilgrimage movement are:
During the three days of the weekend retreat:
Helping the pilgrims to understand the pur-
pose of Cursillo and Pilgrimage—reforming
our worlds—and their part in it.
During the fourth day: Active involvement by
Cursillistas in the support structure of Reun-
ion (Renewal) Groups, Ultreyas and activities
supporting the weekend.
retreat is not bound up in the amount of palanca
that accumulates, or in the gracious comments
made at closing, or even in how much fun every-
one has—but in the reform that takes place in our
communities after the pilgrims return home.
The level of participation in reunion groups and
other fourth day activities is one major indicator
on which to judge just how successful our week-
end retreats have been.
well… Do we?
that a great many of our current fourth day folks—
who should be influencing the pilgrims in working
to reform and in Reunion groups—are not them-
selves involved in reform work and in Reunion
groups.
the following possible courses of action:
Start a program of retrofitting the existing
fourth day people. Appoint a proven leader in
your community to head up a task group to
identify leaders among the fourth day and in-
fluence them to start new Reunion groups.
Yes, this will take some doing.
Review the contents of the fourth day packet
the pilgrims are given to make sure it contains
a clear and compelling explanation of our pur-
pose and of the Reunion groups, Ultreyas and
other fourth day supporting activities.
Review the weekend program and make sure
that it contains a point at which a very clear
explanation of purpose and fourth day is giv-
en. The closing worship service—perhaps im-
mediately after crosses are given out—might
be a very good time for Clergy or the modera-
tor to do so.
to follow up with their pilgrims after the
weekend. Sponsors should be encouraged to
Maintain contact—encouraging their
Invite their pilgrims to Reunion groups,
Ultreyas, Serenades, etc.
meal and discuss the impact of the week-
end, changes in their life that have
occurred since and the work of reforming
communities. Tom
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This is a reprint from the May, 2000 edition-copied
from the Palo Duro community’s newsletter.
Who Needs You At The Serenade? For those of you who don't know me, my name is
Suzanne Gibbs and I am a member of the 1st Presby-
terian Church in the lovely and fragrant town of Her-
eford, TX. I attended the last [Palo Duro] Cursillo in
the fall. Mike Schueler asked me to help coordinate
the serenade. Isn't it funny how God allows you to be
a part of things by convincing you that you are going
to help someone else? He never warns you about
how much of the work will be done in your own
heart first. So knowing that God works all things out
in His time and His way, I trust that this testimony
will reach the hearts of those who are designated by
Him to be there.
I was new to the Presbyterian faith when I went to
Cursillo. I knew with certainty that God had called us
to join our church in Hereford. I guess I still had res-
ervations about why I had to leave the religion I
knew so well. I was sentimental about the relaxed
worship services and less formal music, however, I
truly loved the members of our church and their col-
lective spirit. But, to be honest, I wasn't certain about
Presbyterians in general. So, for me, Cursillo was a
chance for me to see what "God had gotten me into!"
Well, I loved the people I met! The praise music and
informality were such a blessing to my soul, but for
some reason, I was so sad. I cried the whole time. My
table group maintained a full box of tissues beside
me at all times. So many people tried to help me and
comfort me, but I couldn't figure out what God was
working on with such a vengeance in my heart. The
problem that God had with my heart was revealed to
me during the serenade. All these people came in
singing, and waving, and laughing, and crying. Peo-
ple around me were so touched by their friends and
family having come from near and far to sing to
them. I didn't know a soul. O how I longed for a fa-
miliar face! I just broke down and wept.
I had spent all my life in Baptist Churches and Bap-
tist Camps with Baptist Friends and a family whose
heritage is recorded as charter members of Baptist
congregations. I was reluctant to commit myself fully
to a place where all the familiar and comfortable
things and people were gone. My God was still the
same and He wanted me to let go of the labels and
trappings of the past and look fully with wonder and
pride at the new family He had given me! I was
holding back, and God demanded my all. I was
going through a kind of funeral at one of the most
loving and generous places of all. How much more
kind could He have been in the timing of his disci-
pline?
to carry my luggage, who wore clownish smocks,
and flapped around like wounded condors during
the fly like a butterfly song! Cursillo was a place
for me to get to know the beautiful hearts of my
new church family and feel safe and secure and
loved! Making me feel alone and forcing me to turn
to all of you was God's way of straightening me
out. But, please understand how nice it would have
been, for me, if someone from my church or an old
friend who saw my name on the list had come to
the serenade.
If you are still in doubt as to why I wrote all this
down for you, let me make myself clear. Please
examine the list [of pilgrims] carefully… Clear
your mind of all the business and clutter and ask
God if someone on that list needs to see your face
at the serenade. I have two friends who are also
new to this faith who are going to Cursillo. Their
names are Michael & Heidi Brewer. Help me pray
for God to open their hearts to a new church home.
They too miss the familiar. I feel compelled to be
there to smile, and then wouldn't want them to look
around at all the love between Christian friends and
not know that someone came just to see them.
Christ's love always singles us out and makes us
feel special. We should do the same for our broth-
ers and sisters attending Cursillo. "But store up
for yourselves treasures in heaven, where moth and
rust do not destroy and where thieves break in and
steal. For where your treasure is, there your heart
will be Matthew 6:20-21.
With a heart full of love for my wonderful Cursillo
Family, Suzanne Gibbs
Suzanne’s point is well taken. Sandy and I attended
Emmaus Walk serenades (candle lighting) where
the serenade was always jammed. Those in front
were to make eye contact with their pilgrims and
then move to the back, allowing others to move for-
ward to be seen. “All those people drove all that
way for us!” is a powerful message, and can be a
truly awesome demonstration of God’s love. “They
drove all the way here for me!” even more. Tom
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Many of us don’t realize that there are communi-
ties in which the sponsors customarily pay the pil-
grim fees of those they sponsor. This is from a
recent e-mail sent to the Peaks Pilgrimage fourth
day, concerning sponsorship.
From The Committee
increased in recent years.
With the rising cost of living and drop in the econ-
omy it is understandable that we struggle with
wanting to sponsor a Pilgrim and the increase in
the cost. However, the Lord always provides a
way! After talking with several members of the
Secretariat it seems possible for several people to
contribute to the cost!
So, how can we do this? When you want to spon-
sor someone and feel you are unable to pay the
total amount just contact others to ask for financial
assistance.
share on this concern.
Let the Lord lead you in ways to get the funding
together to sponsor someone for the Pilgrimage
weekend.
One of the very principles of forming table groups
makes it difficult to keep them connected after the
weekend.
We form table groups on the premise that it’s best
for the folks at the table not to be familiar with
each other initially - no spouses, couples or even
members of the same church.
It works - thanks to this policy, table groups are
enabled to form together freely and naturally - but
it’s tough to keep them in connection after the
weekend.
There are ways, however. Here are a few of them:
1. Establish a round robin newsletter of your
table by e-mail. Try sending out the first mes-
sage by e-mail to the table group the day after
you return from the weekend. Ask specific
questions of individual members that relate to
comments mentioned during time together on
the weekend, Mary, did you find that your
thousand island dressing left in the sink had
permanently bonded to your salad plate?
Joe, did you find that the neighborhood dogs
had left you a nice covering of shredded
newspapers in your front yard? Did any-
body feel any different when they woke up
this morning? Try to stir up enough memo-
ries and responses to get and keep an e-mail
correspondence going.
The main thing is to arrange to have a table
together at the Ultreya.
rant and make the arrangements - though you
or your table co-leader will need to approve
the timing because of all the events that take
place before and after the serenade.
4. Similar to the above, arrange to meet and have
dinner together before the closing worship of
an upcoming weekend.
group to staff a particular weekend together–
that should provide plenty of opportunities to
connect with each other.
6. Engage in some sort of ministry as a group
project together. Obviously, the constraints of
distance will limit what you can do, but con-
sider taking up a ministry of outreach to one
or more churches that are more or less central-
ly located to your group. Other possibilities
might be for your group to take responsibility
for providing supplies for the comfort table,
or for the art table, or for your group to be
responsible for creating and sending out gen-
eral palanca, or for producing a mailing to
churches from which we haven’t had many
folks attending our weekends.
Some of the above will need to be cleared with the
appropriate members of your council. Tom
The National Presbyterian October, 2011 Volume 13, Number 4 Page 10
This is reprinted form the July, 2000 issue.
How Do You Build An Active
Fourth Day?
When you consider that the Fourth Day is made
up of people who have completed a Cursillo or
Pilgrimage weekend; people who are fired up,
enthusiastic, in awe of our God - this should be a
moot question. The Fourth Day should build it-
self, full of folks who are eager to continue in the
wonderful way they learned on their weekend.
Okay - that's not true of everybody - just 50 to 80
percent of everybody, maybe, but our problem
should still be one of crowd control rather than
one of begging people to turn out.
John Day dealt with this at some length in the
December, 1999 issue. We reprinted his article in
the August, 2011 issue. You might find it useful to
dig out that issue and re-read his piece.
I'm going to suggest to our new moderator that
this should be a major topic of discussion at an up
coming meeting - perhaps at our spring meeting in
Charleston.
I suggest to you now that you begin to consider
the effort very carefully at your council/secretariat
meetings and other gatherings. One issue that
should be considered is the matter of how the pil-
grims are introduced to the 4th Day. The modera-
tor deals with it in his/her talk, but more is needed.
I suggest you think very seriously about the con-
tents and presentation of the fourth day packet the
pilgrims receive.
ing fourth day folks make brief presentations -
congratulating the pilgrims, and team. The place
of the fourth day should be explained by having
those who set-up and cleaned-up the party. Ditto
the serenaders, cross maker, lanyard maker, regis-
trar, council/secretariat members and community
moderator. This would have to be done quickly
and with a light sense of humor. It can't be al-
lowed to drag, but it ought to be done. Pilgrims
need to understand that everybody - including
themselves, now - is a member of the fourth Day.
Homecoming gatherings and Ultreyas are great, as
are gatherings and Ultreyas planned to prepare
palanca, etc. for the upcoming weekend.
A regular schedule of Ultreyas, gatherings and
reunion groups is essential! Be sure to keep them
interesting, fun and well publicized.
An ideal way to ruin a fourth day group is to have
only a very few, poorly planned, dull events kept
carefully secret until the very last minute.
If your community is anything like ours, with par-
ticipating churches more than 100 miles apart,
consider regional gatherings with 2 or 3 Ultreyas
a year for the whole group. Be sure to include
everybody in a gathering group.
I don't know the answers to this quandary any
more than anyone else - but I do have one very
strong clue - the gatherings we make fun and in-
teresting - and well publicized - are well attended.
The last minute reluctant 'I guess we better have a
gathering' lash ups with nothing of interest
planned are poorly attended. There was an article
in the August, 2011 issue about how to make
Ultreyas more inviting. Tom
any particular surprises here
like your average Bible
“Never tell a fib to a pilgrim…”
The National Presbyterian October, 2011 Volume 13, Number 4 Page 11
Dawn Kingsbery wrote:
ber about attending Cursillo. As we visited I
thought of a few of the joys of being a Curchee-
to…
work and play, sorrow and laughter, and the love
of serving one another in Christ’s name.
I feel even more connected to my church, Presby-
tery, and the big church – PCUSA.
Rich Schempp said that Cursillo is one of the best
things that has ever happened to our Presbytery –
we have gotten to know one another! I can walk
into any Presbyterian Church now and feel that I
belong, whether I know the pastor, members or
even if I don’t know anyone – that is just an op-
portunity to make new friends!
Cursillo has opened my eyes and heart to many
meaningful ways to celebrate and worship God. I
felt that sitting on the back row and being as invis-
ible as possible was the appropriate way to attend
church. Gratefully, reverently raising my hands,
communion by intinction, silly skits, reaching out
to hold hands with virtual strangers, and loving
praise music were not mentioned in the participant
application!
As a result of Cursillo I have changed from a re-
luctant leader into a joyful willing leader and par-
ticipant in my church! I have gone from a dormant
member to a lively member – just like that cater-
pillar/chrysalis to butterfly!!
Peace of Christ, Dawn Kingsbery
Amen to both! P.S. what’s a Curcheeto—is it any good with salsa?
In preparation for the upcoming Palo Duro week-
end # 25, Jim Sullivan, the weekend Moderator
asked two of his staffers to record their thoughts
for the staff. This is what they wrote.
To The PDPC # 25 Staff
Charlie Rush wrote:
recall several things.
years and always declined, but I finally accept-
ed. Then at the last minute something came up
and I had to cancel and honestly that was OK with
me. However, the folks at my church didn’t give
up and invited me again the next year and I finally
made it there. I truly believe that the Lord brings
the right people together at the right time.
Secondly, I was never a camp person and was
certainly less than comfortable when I got there. I
was stressed and tired from work and suddenly
was in the midst of all these smiling
strangers. During the lemonade welcome, I just
took off and went for a walk to quiet myself and
asked the Lord to help me to be receptive for
whatever He had in store for me that weekend. To
say the least, I was a bit apprehensive, but the
night of silence was wonderful and allowed me to
begin to wind down. You never know the mindset
of those coming to Cursillo or what part of the
Cursillo experience will be most beneficial or
meaningful to a particular person.
Finally, I remember driving home after the final
ceremony, still not sure about how I felt about
what I’d just experienced. I was tired but com-
pletely relaxed and at peace. I remember feeling a
little dread at the thought of returning to the real
world. It took quite a while for me to mentally
and emotionally process the weekend, but in the
end I knew I wanted and needed more of what had
been so freely given; friendship, unlimited smiles
and uncritical love.
As we prepare for Cursillo, let us remember that
we are just tools and it is the Lord who will shape
the weekend and all those participating into what
they need to be.
Charlie Rush,
The National Presbyterian October, 2011 Volume 13, Number 4 Page 12
Glenn Miller, a member of North Texas Presbyter-
ian Pilgrimage, publishes a daily message entitled
Thoughts Along The Way. His thoughts may be
reproduced for noncommercial use only. This is
his offering for 9/19/2011.
all your heart and with all your soul and with
all your mind. This is the first and greatest
commandment. And the second is like it: Love
your neighbor as yourself. All the law and the
prophets hang on these two commandments.”
Matt 22:37-40
ty doesn’t use very much anymore. To many, it
implies a zealousness or holier than thou atti-
tude towards others. But piety is in fact a tenet of
our Christian faith and is simply our awareness of
and the nurturing of our spiritual relationships.
Being the quantitative person that I am, I can’t
think about something very long without develop-
ing a diagram or a flow chart. And along those
lines, I see two intersecting directional lines; a
horizontal one and a vertical one.
The vertical line symbolizes our relationship be-
tween ourselves and God. We must constantly be
aware of God’s presence and placing Him sover-
eign in our lives. To practice piety, we must nur-
ture those things that draw that awareness of Him
and His will for us. We can do this through prayer,
study and meditation, just to name a few disci-
plines.
with others. We must constantly be aware that we
serve a greater purpose than just satisfaction of
ourselves. To practice piety, we can nurture those
relationships that God has given us by involving
ourselves in ministry, discipleship, fellowship and
living among and in the community of saints, rec-
ognizing all of God’s children as His beloved chil-
dren.
mandments; that you shall love the Lord your
God with all your heart and with all your soul and
with all your mind; and love your neighbor as
yourself.
they form the Cross.
nurturing our piety in one direction or both?
Just a thought… Glenn Miller
Reprinted from the February, 2000 edition.
Not Your Usual Gathering!
Fourth Day enjoyed a day of preparation for GPC
13 on Saturday, February 26, 2000.
Word of our plans got around and friends from
four other churches joined us, including folks
from our usual gathering partner the Austell Pres-
byterian Church.
and staff on GPC 13.
We then undertook preparation of palanca and
place-mats, while a small band concentrated on
making a banner to be sent by the Georgia Com-
munity to one of our new communities.
After supper, we listened to the Action talk given
by one of our number as well as a devotional giv-
en by another.
home happy.
preparation for each weekend?
Parties incorporated in the Ultreya held before
each Presbyterian Pilgrimage weekend. Tom
Feed my sheep! John 21:17
^
from the North Carolina newsletter. Look at the
last line and you'll see that they got it from our
Emmaus friends.
Please review these reminders for your Reun-
ion Group or as you plan a new one to include
our newest Pilgrims.
each other. Be regular in attendance. when you
feel like it the least, then you need it the most.
2. Prepare yourselves ahead of time-- bring some-
thing to share and expect Jesus to meet you there.
3. Practice your disciplines - ask yourselves, do
we really want to live in grace through the prac-
tice of piety, study and grace?
4. Uphold one another - be accountable for your
Christian practice and growth. Celebrate success
and forgive failure. Be encouragers!
5. Pray for one another.
6. Focus on the service card. Focus on deeper
sharing, accountability and not on the superficial.
Honor order, but adjust to needs.
7. Retreat with one another. Once or twice a year,
plan a quiet day for prayer, spiritual conversation,
scripture and the sharing of life goals and commit-
ments.
week. Pray for everyone's perseverance.
9. Act as a group and plan mission -- through the
church, Pilgrimage palanca, or in your communi-
ty.
deeply than you listen to yourself. One who can be
faithful to what is best within yourself. A spiritual
friend helps you keep the fire burning within.
"BE CONFIDENTIAL!"
Group is one of those places you should happily
anticipate each week.
Community newsletter -- April 1994)
This little group of Music Chas is a reprint, too—from the August, 2011 issue.
The National Presbyterian October, 2011 Volume 13, Number 4 Page 14
This is from the Spiritual Director’s message to
the Peaks Pilgrimage community. It was written
by Rev. Robert McRae and copied in the May,
2000 edition.
When we think of guarding, storing, or protecting
valuables, we usually think of banks, strong box-
es, steel safes, or at least some secret hiding place.
Depending on our age, of course, and also depend-
ing on just what it is that we consider "valuable",
we will usually take appropriate precautions with
things that we consider our "treasures".
Not surprisingly, though, God has a different
economy from that which we encounter in our
busy world. In God's economy the most valuable
treasure of all, He has chosen to put in ordinary,
breakable "clay pots". What is that treasure? It's
the Gospel! It's God's good news of forgiveness in
Jesus Christ! It's God's good news of a hope that
will endure through any hardship, through any
trouble, through any catastrophe life can bringa
hope that is eternal. And just think... a treasure
like that, in a clay pot?
Well, that's the way Paul puts it in II Corinthians
4:7. And that's the way it is! We have the treasure
and we are more like "clay pots" than any of us
probably want to admit. We are ordinary; we are
breakable; we are expendable; we are replaceable;
we often contain things we were not designed to
hold; we come in different sizes, styles, and
shapes ....
BUT, we are chosen! And we don't have lids that
seal, conceal, protect from the elements, that treas-
ure within. No, that treasure was meant to be
shared. We are made so that the treasure over-
flows and spills out onto and into other such clay
pots so that they, too may share that treasure
And because we are like "clay pots "we don't get
any of the glory which attends that treasure. The
glory goes to God.
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Dates Weekend Lay Leader
Sep 29 to Oct 2, 2011 Michigan Presbyterian Pilgrimage # 18 (Detroit) Helena Kampwerth
Sep 29 to Oct 2, 2011 Oklahoma Presbyterian Pilgrimage # 46 Sonya Humes
Oct 6 to 9, 2011 South Carolina Presbyterian Pilgrimage # 61 Diane Dunham
Oct 6 to 9, 2011 Palo Duro Presbyterian Cursillo # 25 Jim Sullivan
Oct 6 to 9, 2011 Colorado Presbyterian Pilgrimage # 24 Susan Ellis
Oct 13 to 16, 2011 North Carolina Presbyterian Pilgrimage # 108 David Farmer
Oct 13 to 16, 2011 Michigan Presbyterian Pilgrimage # 19 Mary Moses
Oct 13 to 16, 2011 Tennessee Valley Presbyterian Cursillo # 17 Kemie Brown-Vansant
Oct 13 to 16, 2011 Arkansas Presbyterian Cursillo # 15 Ron David
Oct 20 to 23, 2011 North Texas Presbyterian Pilgrimage # 31 LaVoy Hooker
Oct 20 to 23, 2011 Peaks Presbyterian Pilgrimage # 47 TBA
Oct 20 to 23, 2011 Nebraska/Iowa Great Plains Presbyterian Pilgrimage # 10 Tami Hillyer
Oct 27 to 30, 2011 Florida Presbyterian Cursillo # 6 Minnette Mullings
Oct 27 to 30, 2011 Mississippi Presbyterian Cursillo # 8 Becky Hennessey
Oct 27 to 30, 2011 Houston Presbyterian Cursillo # 65 Dennis Hobbs
Nov 3 to 6, 2011 Georgia Presbyterian Cursillo # 39 Lucy Cooley
Nov 3 to 6, 2011 North Carolina Presbyterian Pilgrimage # 109 Woody Beck
Nov 4 to 6, 2011 South Carolina Celebration # 34 Morgan Bennett
Jan 13 to 15, 2012 North Texas Celebration # 13 TBA
Jan 14 to 16, 2012 North Carolina Presbyterian Arise # 36 Central Ellen Quinlan
Jan 14 to 16, 2012 Houston Area Celebration # 12 Brian O'Donnell
Feb 9 to 12, 2012 Houston Presbyterian Cursillo #66 Gayle Price
Mar 1 to 4, 2012 North Texas Presbyterian Pilgrimage # 32 Emily Nichols
Mar 1 to 4, 2012 Oklahoma Presbyterian Pilgrimage # 47 Jayne Spies
Mar 29 to Apr 1, 2012 Georgia Presbyterian Cursillo # 40 Dave Elkins
Apr 12 to 15, 2012 Alabama Presbyterian Cursillo # 28 Ames Yokel
Apr 19 to 22, 2012 Peaks Presbyterian Pilgrimage # 48 TBA
Apr 19 to 22, 2012 Nebraska/Iowa Great Plains Presbyterian Pilgrimage # 11 Chuck Shafer
Apr 19 to 22, 2012 Tennessee Valley Presbyterian Cursillo # 18 Laurel Blackwell
Apr 19 to 22, 2012 Houston Presbyterian Cursillo # 67 Elizabeth Reaves
Apr 26 to 29, 2012 Arkansas Presbyterian Pilgrimage # 16 Madeleine Middleton
Apr 26 to 29, 2012 Chicagoland Presbyterian Pilgrimage #22 Karen Bregman
Apr 26 to 29, 2012 Florida Presbyterian Cursillo # 7 TBA
Apr 26 to 29, 2012 Colorado Presbyterian Pilgrimage # 25 TBA
Apr 27 to 29, 2012 South Carolina Celebration # 35 J acob Woelke
May 3 to 6, 2012 South Carolina Presbyterian Pilgrimage # 62 Steve Brown
May 3 to 6, 2012 Mississippi Presbyterian Cursillo # 9 Tom McIlwain
Jul 13 to 15, 2012 Houston Area Celebration #13 TBA
Aug 16 to 19, 2012 Georgia Presbyterian Cursillo # 41 Bob Gilbert
Sep 1 to 3, 2012 North Carolina Presbyterian Arise # 37 East TBA
Sep 1 to 3, 2012 North Carolina Presbyterian Arise # 38 West TBA
Sep 20 to 23, 2012 Alabama Presbyterian Cursillo # 29 Lacie Maynard
Sep 27 to 30, 2012 Mississippi Presbyterian Cursillo # 10 Linda McDowell
Oct 4 to 7, 2012 South Carolina Presbyterian Pilgrimage # 63 TBA
Oct 4 to 7, 2012 Oklahoma Presbyterian Pilgrimage # 48 TBA
Oct 11 to 14, 2012 Tennessee Valley Presbyterian Cursillo # 19 TBA
Oct 18 to 21, 2012 North Texas Presbyterian Pilgrimage # 33 Carla Szafran
Oct 18 to 21, 2012 Arkansas Presbyterian Pilgrimage # 17 Janice Ray
Oct 18 to 21, 2012 Peaks Presbyterian Pilgrimage # 49 TBA
Oct 18 to 21, 2012 Nebraska/Iowa Great Plains Presbyterian Pilgrimage # 12 Carol Rudesill
Oct 25 to 28, 2012 Colorado Presbyterian Pilgrimage # 26 TBA
Nov 1 to 4, 2012 Florida Presbyterian Cursillo # 8 TBA
Apr 18 to 21, 2013 Peaks Presbyterian Pilgrimage # 50! TBA
Apr 18 to 21, 2013 Nebraska/Iowa Great Plains Presbyterian Pilgrimage # 13 TBA
May 2 to 5, 2013 Mississippi Presbyterian Cursillo # 11 Woodie Cowart
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Contacts Alabama Sissy Crowe [email protected] Terry Skinner [email protected]
Arkansas Sandra Phillips [email protected] (870) 688-9189
Debbie Cordell [email protected] (501) 209-1841
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Colorado Dave and Mary Rowe [email protected] (719) 594-9908 Beth Lebsock [email protected]
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Florida Neely Inlow [email protected] (904) 891-6000
Georgia Debi Elkins [email protected] (770) 458-6415
Houston Adult: Walter Hill [email protected] (713) 661-8488
Youth: Trish McElroy [email protected] (281) 277-1706 Rene Murphy [email protected]
Indiana Holly Stoiche on the website - www.ipcursillo.org Jay Farlow [email protected]
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North Carolina Adult: Jim Mason [email protected] (336) 491-9970
Arise Youth: Nancy Alderson [email protected] (910) 515-4170 (cell)
Mary Ann & Bill Kopp [email protected] Chip Todd [email protected]
North Texas Adult: Karen Harris [email protected] (903) 235-6763
Youth: Melvin Turner [email protected] (972) 618-4809
Oklahoma Adult: Sheron Davis [email protected]
Youth: Kay Denneny c/o First Presbyterian Church, 1000 S. Rankin, Edmond, OK 73034
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Youth & Cross Training: Mike Allen [email protected] (843) 200-1899
Tennessee Valley Mary Snyder [email protected] (256) 558-5956 Keith Johnson [email protected] (256) 751-4392