The National Presbyterian October, 2011 Volume 13, Number 4 Page 1

The National Presbyterian

A News Magazine of the

National Council of

Presbyterian Fourth

Day Movements and the

National Council of

Presbyterian Cursillo

Volume 13, No 4 www.days3.com October, 2011

Dave Hamilton, one of our team of trainers who

lead our National Training program, sent this in.

Presbyterian Cursillo and

Pilgrimage From A to Z

Wow, that was such a great Weekend and my faith

and understanding of my relationship with the liv-

ing Christ grew to new levels. I am excited to be

home and looking at my environment through

―new‖ eyes. I have some guidelines about how to

apply my growth and enthusiasm to ―my world‖

and the support groups in my church. However, I

feel like I also want to continue to grow within my

4th Day Community, but I just didn't get an ade-

quate perspective of how the 4th Day and the

Community works and how I can support it.

This is not a new feeling or perspective as a mem-

ber of the 4th Day and you aren't the first person to

feel that way. Your National Council of Presby-

terian 4th Day Movements and National Council

of Presbyterian Cursillo have recognized this need

and have adopted a Training Program, developed

by Tom Fox of the GAPC. It is designed to assist

you and your community to grow and to "reach

out and touch" as many individuals from your en-

vironment as possible. This National Training

Program has now been presented 4 times and the

National Councils are supporting and subsidizing

the opportunity for you to make it available to

your community (and neighboring communities,

as well) at a site of your choosing! They are do-

ing so by covering the cost of training materials

and Trainer travel costs

What do you need to do to have this 8 hour

Program presented in your community?

Your Council/Secretariat needs to agree to

sponsor this training in your community.

This means that they will be responsible

for all local logistics (meals, facilities,

housing, assistance to the Trainer, etc.)

and to establish a nominal charge

[normally $10 - $20 person] to cover local

meal and facility costs.

Your Council/Secretariat, or a designated rep-

resentative, needs to contact one of the

National Trainers [Bill Cowen - 703-528-

8099; Dave Hamilton - 501-915-9015; or

Bart Henson -713-780-2138] to explore

timing options and facility requirements.

Your community will need to develop and

manage all local advertising, facilities,

housing, meals, etc.

Remember, this training is available to any 4th

Day member who wants to expand their under-

standing of these great Cursillo and Pilgrimage

Programs and to better understand how they can

make their community more active and vital in the

life of God’s servants! Dave

In This Issue

We pretty generally feel that we do a good job at

running our weekends. Do we?

How can a better trained fourth day work to im-

prove our weekends and thus our ministry? This

issue deals primarily with what it takes to make

folks who have attended Cursillo or Pilgrimage

become active and weekend staff and useful in the

fourth day.

Once again, We’ve managed to sneak in a little

inspiration and humor.

Tom

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Contents 1 Cursillo & Pilgrimage From A toZ 1 In This Issue

2 Cursillista Diagnosis

2 Contents

2 The Next Issue

2 Masthead

2 Your Very Own Angel

3 The Challenge We Face

4 Why Join A Renewal (Reunion) Group?

4 National Council Meets

5 Colorado Springs Meeting

7 What Do We Do Well?

8 Who Needs You At The Serenade?

9 How To Connect A Table Group

9 From The Committee

10 How Do You Build An Active 4th Day?

11 To The PDPC 25 Staff

12 Bi-Directional Piety

12 Not Your Usual Gathering

13 10 Reminders For Reunion (Renewal) Groups

14 Where Do You Keep Your Valuables?

14 Web Sites

15 Scheduled weekends

16 Contacts

The National Presbyterian

October, 2011 Volume 13, No 4

A Publication of The National Council of Presbyterian Fourth Day Movements and

The National Council of Presbyterian Cursillo

The Communities: Alabama Presbyterian Cursillo Arkansas Presbyterian Cursillo

Austin (Texas) Presbyterian Pilgrimage Chicagoland Presbyterian Pilgrimage

Colorado Presbyterian Pilgrimage Eastern Oklahoma Presbyterian Cursillo Eastern Virginia Presbyterian Pilgrimage

Florida Presbyterian Cursillo Georgia Presbyterian Cursillo Houston Presbyterian Cursillo Indiana Presbyterian Cursillo

James (Virginia) Presbyterian Pilgrimage Louisiana Presbyterian Cursillo

Michigan Presbyterian Pilgrimage Mississippi Presbyterian Cursillo

Nebraska/Iowa Presbyterian Pilgrimage North Carolina Presbyterian Pilgrimage

North Texas Presbyterian Pilgrimage Oklahoma Presbyterian Pilgrimage

Palo Duro (Texas) Presbyterian Cursillo Peaks (Virginia) Presbyterian Pilgrimage

Shenandoah (Virginia) Presbyterian Pilgrimage South Carolina Presbyterian Pilgrimage Tennessee Valley Presbyterian Cursillo

Editor—Tom Fox www.t.f.fox@comcast.net

Your very own angel says: “God loves

you and forgives you—that’s the best

twofer ever!”

Cursillista Diagnosis:

Diagnosis Confirmed:

Still Too Much Tom There’s still way too much of Tom Fox in the

Cursillista. There’s not nearly enough of every-

body else.

Treatment: Write Something & Send It In

Write an article about something of interest and or

value to our fourth day folks. Something that will

help keep Cursillo and Pilgrimage going well.

Prognosis: Still Too Much of Tom

Unless you send in an article to be published in

the Cursillista. Send it too t.f.fox@comcast.net.

Deadline for the December issue is 11/30/2011.

Next Issue

Christmas comes to Cursillo and Pilgrimage. The

blessed season - how we can honor and cherish it.

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It’s two for the price of one, Roy, like the way God loves

us and forgives us.

Rita, what’s a twofer?

The Challenge We Face

An Editorial

We have a challenge to face. The average number

of pilgrims on our weekends has declined dramat-

ically. We typically respond by saying that ―...it

was still a great weekend…‖

The last weekend my wife Sandy and I worked -

GPC 38 - was a great weekend, but had only 15

pilgrims, instead of the planned for 30 to 36.

It was a great weekend, but 15 or more people

who should have been there missed out on the

opportunity to attend a Cursillo weekend.

Is it that the Holy Spirit is calling fewer people to

attend Cursillo and Pilgrimage weekends? No - I

doubt that very much. The need is at least as great

as it has been in the past.

People have always been hard of listening when it

comes to hearing and responding to God’s call.

Now, with high unemployment and a tough econ-

omy, it takes more to convince some people to

accept the call to attend our weekends; but, is the

economy the whole reason - or even the main rea-

son, for our declining attendance?

No, I believe there is a deeper reason.

As you will recall, the purpose of a Cursillo

method weekend retreat is to inspire the new Cur-

sillistas to return home and share God’s love with

friends and neighbors in reforming the community

there.

An absolutely critical element in this process is

helping the new Cursillistas to become active in

the supporting fourth day - in Ultreyas and Reun-

ion groups - some call them Renewal groups.

There is a double problem here - how do we - who

are not ourselves very active in these fourth day

essential activities - convince the new Cursillistas

to become involved in programs we ourselves

largely ignore?

Should we try ―do as I say, not as I do‖?

About all we do now is to suggest they try to find

an existing Reunion group that has openings, or to

start a new one - all by themselves.

Then we sit back and bemoan the lack of involve-

ment by the new Fourth Day members!

I’m at least as much to blame as anyone for this!

On GPC 38 I had as fine a group of pilgrims at

my table as I’ve ever known - and an outstanding

table co-leader, but I’ve had virtually no contact

with them since.

True, table groups are perhaps the least likely to

form into Reunion groups - considering that their

members usually come from widely spread out

locations. Our table group at GPC 38 had mem-

bers who lived more than 150 miles apart.

There’s more to be said on what can be done to

keep table groups in touch on page 7 in this issue

of The Cursillista.

As a minimum effort to get pilgrims involved

with Reunion groups, I suggest that sponsors be

tasked to find a group for the pilgrim(s) they

sponsor, as well as to get them invited to join the

group.

The weekend moderator - or someone else on staff

(or perhaps an adjunct staff person) - should be

given a list of the proposed Reunion groups for

the pilgrims. Staff members who are part of each

of the Reunion groups should be asked to encour-

age the pilgrims to attend. Assuming your com-

munity has someone on the council responsible

for Reunion groups, the whole process should be

co-ordinated through that person.

Sponsors, or other designated fourth day should

be responsible to invite - and provide transporta-

tion for - the new Cursillistas to Ultreyas.

In the final analysis, though, things will not im-

prove until the existing fourth day people

(including me) begin to shoulder their responsibil-

ity to lead the new Cursillistas by example - into

the supporting structure of the fourth day.

That’s the challenge we face! Tom

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Among those present: were national officers: Beckey Lipe, National Moderator (second from right); Bill

Cowen, National Vice Moderator (2nd row, second from left); Kerry Goldmeyer, National Secretary

(second from right, front row) and Becky Beem, National Treasurer (behind Kerry’s left shoulder).

Gerri Kirby wrote expressing her concern that the

people of the fourth day should join Renewal

(Reunion) groups and offering some thoughts on

how to proceed.

Why Join A Renewal (Reunion)

Group?

I am a renewal coordinator and I feel strongly

about gathering participants after the Pilgrimage

experience. I found it difficult to get every ones

schedules and plan a renewal group in which eve-

ryone could participate. I believe a solution might

be to arrange 3 dates with the coordinator for the

months following the Pilgrimage and build them

into the literature that participants leave with so

everyone can mark those dates and renewal

groups can happen automatically.

A second idea, might be a "class" project, might

be making scarves for a soup kitchen with 2' x 5'

pieces of fleece to be handed out after people are

served food. Lay one piece of fabric on top of the

other, cut slits 1" deep around all sides and then

tie them to each other. It's a no-sew scarf. A short

term project might be painting the walls in a soup

kitchen or cleaning it....just being together in

Christ.

I thank you for this email and the work you do at

the council level.

In Christ, Gerri Kirby

National Council Meets

What does our National Council do when it

meets? They Pray, Plan, Report, Discuss, Vote,

Eat, Sing, Worship, Fellowship, Share, and did I

mention Pray?

In other words, they do pretty much what any

other group of Cursillistas would do when they get

together.

Our national council first met (in my home church

in Douglasville, GA) in the spring of 1999. It has

met twice a year ever sense.

See the picture below and more detail on pages 5

and 6. Tom

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The following is extracted from the excellent

minutes produced by Kerry Goldmeyer.

Colorado Springs Meeting

Twenty three folks representing six of our eleven-

Cursillo communities and seven of our thirteen

Pilgrimage communities gathered in Colorado

Springs August 26 & 27 for the 26th semiannual

meeting of our National Council(s).

It was a meeting noteworthy for its extensive dis-

cussions of major issues facing our Movement.

Hopefully this will lead to serious consideration of

some of our problems and adoption of solutions.

The main problems discussed were the declining

number of pilgrims our communities are experi-

encing on our weekends and the dwindling in-

volvement of our fourth day people.

Bill Cowen (Peaks) suggested that we need to un-

derstand our Lord’s wish for our ministry. He

believes that has not changed. He cannot believe

that the model - which has been successful for

over sixty years - is flawed. Bill believes that

―people will go where the spiritual food is.‖ He

thinks we need to examine our own involvement.

Maybe we can ask the lost fourth day people to

come and help rebuild the community.

Russ McNeal (NC) pointed out that people can get

a mindset that ―this is what I do, and the only

thing I do.‖ He believes it’s helpful to move peo-

ple around from position to position to keep them

involved - just like at church.

David Hupp (Spiritual Advisor) noted that people

can become merely spectators in church. He says

we need to focus on what we are trying to accom-

plish. The risk is that people leave weekend and

mountain top experience and want all their Chris-

tian life to be mountain top time. The fourth day is

how we keep going. David mentioned the differ-

ence between having a membership model vs a

discipleship model. Too many ―members‖ are

merely spectators.

Chuck Allor (Colorado) feels we are too results

oriented; this is not about results. He says we need

to watch our prejudice regarding how it should be

done; it works; spirituality vs methodology. He

says we tend to concentrate on the method and not

give enough credit to the spiritual side. He feels

we are too bottom line oriented. We tend to serve

others as we want to serve, we need to serve them

as they need to be served. He sees us as swimming

up stream as we love others - we bring them along

too. Christ who feeds us is strong enough.

Bart Henson (Houston) says we recruit from our

own circle, but that circle is getting older. Getting

through to those with children and incredible

schedules seems to be impossible. How do we

offer them the pearl of great price so that they

come? This apparently must cross age boundaries.

He says that young folk find authenticity and

community at Celebration - Houston’s youth

weekend - which they don’t find in church.

Becky Beem (Chicago) says the Presbyterian

church is looking for a method for renewal for

adults. She believes that we are truly here to pro-

vide the church with a tool for that revitalization.

Other matters discussed included a review of our

seminary scholarship program, regional training,

annual recertification of our communities, fund

raising, proper usage of fourth day membership

lists, our national publication (The Cursillista),

our web site, the change by some communities

from Cursillo to Pilgrimage and representation at

the June 2012 General Assembly with an exhibit

booth.

The seminary scholarship program is a provision

by our national council to pay the pilgrim fee for a

student in one of our denomination’s seminaries to

attend a Cursillo or Pilgrimage weekend in one of

our local communities. The purpose is to make

future clergy aware of and part of our program.

There is an article concerning regional training on

page 1 of this issue of the Cursillista.

Annual recertification has been inadvertently ig-

nored the last year or so, but our By-Laws require

each community, Cursillo or Pilgrimage, to certify

annually that they are in compliance with our By-

Laws and License. Kerry will send a recertifica-

tion form to each community as required.

As you might expect, in this economy, Fund Rais-

ing is a hot topic. Peaks generally does not do

fund raising, though they may have a basket in

back of sanctuary during Ultreyas if scholarship

fund is low. Arkansas has received donations

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from Verizon when an employee does volunteer

work as part of the fourth day, Wal-mart has a

similar program through their human resources

department. The Arkansas webmaster made a

―Christmas Club‖. They sent a solicitation indicat-

ing that if you want to donate on a regular basis

the webmaster will send a reminder on whatever

schedule is indicated. They have several people

who now make donations regularly. Georgia has a

sheet with suggestions that is part of 4th day pack-

et on closing Sundays; they also send a letter ask-

ing for help in fall showing ―opportunities for giv-

ing‖ including bequests. Louisiana PC has been

listed as ―instead of flowers‖ after a death. North

Texas had a memorial golf tournament for George

Platt which included dinner and silent auction that

raised several thousand dollars. One of their new

council positions is for ongoing fund raising; they

have several churches with significant Cursillo

presence which have donated funds to pay for fees

for their members, and they have a large scholar-

ship fund. Arkansas asked if anyone knew of any

grants (one time or ongoing) that could be applied

for. South Carolina passed a basket at the spring

―Welcome Home Ultreya very successfully.

North Carolina for some time the weekend Rector

(moderator/lay-coordinator) gift has been waived

and money donated to the scholarship fund in-

stead. Houston does a once a year solicitation.

Formally or informally in some communities,

staff will scholarship other staff or pilgrims, when

the need is known. Louisiana has begun having

one person with an eye to fund raising look at

funds needed for a weekend and the community

and think about how to obtain the needed funds.

They suggest the best time of year may be the end

of October to early November. This year their

council will have a telethon* to update personal

data and to solicit financial help from the commu-

nity. *Telephonethon?

Our careful usage of 4th day membership lists and

rosters has become a matter of concern. A few

communities have had problems with their mem-

bership roster being used for other than fourth day

business. In one case, a stalker gained access to

the location of a fourth day member. In other cas-

es, our lists have been used for commercial pur-

poses. A national volunteer organization, similar

in size to ours, has received legal advice to restrict

access to its rosters, allowing only those who are

specifically authorized.

Our national publication, The Cursillista is in-

tended to be published in even numbered months.

The matter for discussion was how to distribute it.

The editor would like it to be distributed to every

member of our fourth day as an attachment to an

e-mail. Others feel this is too much work, and just

want to stick it on a web site somewhere—with an

e-mail going out to the fourth day telling them

where to go to find it. (If you’re going to send out

an e-mail, anyway…) The editor will continue

producing the publication as long as he feels that

it is being put to use.

Our web site: Days3.com has been updated and

refreshed. A portion of the site is designed to help

recruit pilgrims through testimonies, FAQ’s and

other information. The rest of the website

www.days3.com/Day4.htm is for fourth day use

and is not intended for those who have not attend-

ed a weekend. Some of the sections there are;

About us, History, Cursillista Newsletters, Fourth

Day, Music, links, National Councils among oth-

ers. We have three other domain names which

should be working correctly soon.

Change from Cursillo to Pilgrimage is an issue

that has been around for years. Many feel that it

isn’t right for us to deprive members of other de-

nominations of the experience of attending Cur-

sillo. Some feel that it is the way to correct our

shrinking pilgrim lists. Others feel that our mis-

sion is to reform the Presbyterian Church, not the

entire Body of Christ. They point out that there

are plenty of other expressions of Cursillo spon-

sored by other denominations for their own mem-

bers. They also point to the problem of creating

―second class‖ Cursillistas as they restrict certain

roles in their communities to Presbyterians.

General Assembly, June 2012, Pittsburgh. The

General Assemblies of our denomination in 2008

and 2010 were held in areas where we had no rep-

resentatives so that, unlike the previous five Gen-

eral Assemblies, we did not have a booth in the

exhibit hall. There are several folks, however,

who have expressed willingness to man such a

booth. Page 10 of the June issue has a picture of

our most recent booth.

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What Do We Do Well?

In Presbyterian Cursillo and Pilgrimage, what do

we do well? What needs improving?

How do we know? Just how can we tell?

One way is to try to determine whether or not

we’re fulfilling our purpose.

What is the purpose of Presbyterian Cursillo and

Pilgrimage? We’ve been taught:

―The purpose of our Cursillo and Pilgrimage

retreats is to affect a specific, identifiable and

qualitative response in the participants. That

response is for them to return to where they

came from, and work to reform their worlds

after the Kingdom of God.‖

What defines a successful Cursillo or Pilgrimage?

Fred Keith, author of our manual, says that:

―The standard of judgment for a Cursillo

Movement is, simply, to what extent are the

various environments in the [area] being Chris-

tianized, being transformed in Christ? To what

extent is Christian life being structured? If a

Cursillo Movement is doing this, it is success-

ful as a Cursillo Movement. If a Cursillo

Movement is not doing this, it may be doing

something good, but it is not successful as a

Cursillo Movement.‖

Are we being successful as a Cursillo Movement?

The two main elements necessary to insure the

success of our Cursillo/Pilgrimage movement are:

During the three days of the weekend retreat:

Helping the pilgrims to understand the pur-

pose of Cursillo and Pilgrimage—reforming

our worlds—and their part in it.

During the fourth day: Active involvement by

Cursillistas in the support structure of Reun-

ion (Renewal) Groups, Ultreyas and activities

supporting the weekend.

The success of a Cursillo or Pilgrimage weekend

retreat is not bound up in the amount of palanca

that accumulates, or in the gracious comments

made at closing, or even in how much fun every-

one has—but in the reform that takes place in our

communities after the pilgrims return home.

The level of participation in reunion groups and

other fourth day activities is one major indicator

on which to judge just how successful our week-

end retreats have been.

In my conversations with fourth day folks from

around the country, I hear the almost unanimous

opinion that ―...at least we do the weekends

well…‖ Do we?

One nearly universal problem we seem to have is

that a great many of our current fourth day folks—

who should be influencing the pilgrims in working

to reform and in Reunion groups—are not them-

selves involved in reform work and in Reunion

groups.

You may wish to consider and discuss with others

the following possible courses of action:

Start a program of ―retrofitting‖ the existing

fourth day people. Appoint a proven leader in

your community to head up a task group to

identify leaders among the fourth day and in-

fluence them to start new Reunion groups.

Yes, this will take some doing.

Review the contents of the fourth day packet

the pilgrims are given to make sure it contains

a clear and compelling explanation of our pur-

pose and of the Reunion groups, Ultreyas and

other fourth day supporting activities.

Review the weekend program and make sure

that it contains a point at which a very clear

explanation of purpose and fourth day is giv-

en. The closing worship service—perhaps im-

mediately after crosses are given out—might

be a very good time for Clergy or the modera-

tor to do so.

Coach sponsors to understand why they need

to follow up with their pilgrims after the

weekend. Sponsors should be encouraged to

Maintain contact—encouraging their

pilgrims in the fourth day.

Invite their pilgrims to Reunion groups,

Ultreyas, Serenades, etc.

Get face to face with their pilgrims over a

meal and discuss the impact of the week-

end, changes in their life that have

occurred since and the work of reforming

communities. Tom

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This is a reprint from the May, 2000 edition-copied

from the Palo Duro community’s newsletter.

Who Needs You At The Serenade? For those of you who don't know me, my name is

Suzanne Gibbs and I am a member of the 1st Presby-

terian Church in the lovely and fragrant town of Her-

eford, TX. I attended the last [Palo Duro] Cursillo in

the fall. Mike Schueler asked me to help coordinate

the serenade. Isn't it funny how God allows you to be

a part of things by convincing you that you are going

to help someone else? He never warns you about

how much of the work will be done in your own

heart first. So knowing that God works all things out

in His time and His way, I trust that this testimony

will reach the hearts of those who are designated by

Him to be there.

I was new to the Presbyterian faith when I went to

Cursillo. I knew with certainty that God had called us

to join our church in Hereford. I guess I still had res-

ervations about why I had to leave the religion I

knew so well. I was sentimental about the relaxed

worship services and less formal music, however, I

truly loved the members of our church and their col-

lective spirit. But, to be honest, I wasn't certain about

Presbyterians in general. So, for me, Cursillo was a

chance for me to see what "God had gotten me into!"

Well, I loved the people I met! The praise music and

informality were such a blessing to my soul, but for

some reason, I was so sad. I cried the whole time. My

table group maintained a full box of tissues beside

me at all times. So many people tried to help me and

comfort me, but I couldn't figure out what God was

working on with such a vengeance in my heart. The

problem that God had with my heart was revealed to

me during the serenade. All these people came in

singing, and waving, and laughing, and crying. Peo-

ple around me were so touched by their friends and

family having come from near and far to sing to

them. I didn't know a soul. O how I longed for a fa-

miliar face! I just broke down and wept.

I had spent all my life in Baptist Churches and Bap-

tist Camps with Baptist Friends and a family whose

heritage is recorded as charter members of Baptist

congregations. I was reluctant to commit myself fully

to a place where all the familiar and comfortable

things and people were gone. My God was still the

same and He wanted me to let go of the labels and

trappings of the past and look fully with wonder and

pride at the new family He had given me! I was

holding back, and God demanded my all. I was

going through a kind of funeral at one of the most

loving and generous places of all. How much more

kind could He have been in the timing of his disci-

pline?

I loved these new people who were strangely eager

to carry my luggage, who wore clownish smocks,

and flapped around like wounded condors during

the fly like a butterfly song! Cursillo was a place

for me to get to know the beautiful hearts of my

new church family and feel safe and secure and

loved! Making me feel alone and forcing me to turn

to all of you was God's way of straightening me

out. But, please understand how nice it would have

been, for me, if someone from my church or an old

friend who saw my name on the list had come to

the serenade.

If you are still in doubt as to why I wrote all this

down for you, let me make myself clear. Please

examine the list [of pilgrims] carefully… Clear

your mind of all the business and clutter and ask

God if someone on that list needs to see your face

at the serenade. I have two friends who are also

new to this faith who are going to Cursillo. Their

names are Michael & Heidi Brewer. Help me pray

for God to open their hearts to a new church home.

They too miss the familiar. I feel compelled to be

there to smile, and then wouldn't want them to look

around at all the love between Christian friends and

not know that someone came just to see them.

Christ's love always singles us out and makes us

feel special. We should do the same for our broth-

ers and sisters attending Cursillo. "But store up

for yourselves treasures in heaven, where moth and

rust do not destroy and where thieves break in and

steal. For where your treasure is, there your heart

will be‖ Matthew 6:20-21.

With a heart full of love for my wonderful Cursillo

Family, Suzanne Gibbs

Suzanne’s point is well taken. Sandy and I attended

Emmaus Walk serenades (candle lighting) where

the serenade was always jammed. Those in front

were to make eye contact with their pilgrims and

then move to the back, allowing others to move for-

ward to be seen. “All those people drove all that

way for us!” is a powerful message, and can be a

truly awesome demonstration of God’s love. “They

drove all the way here for me!” even more. Tom

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Many of us don’t realize that there are communi-

ties in which the sponsors customarily pay the pil-

grim fees of those they sponsor. This is from a

recent e-mail sent to the Peaks Pilgrimage fourth

day, concerning sponsorship.

From The Committee

We realize that the cost of sponsoring Pilgrims has

increased in recent years.

With the rising cost of living and drop in the econ-

omy it is understandable that we struggle with

wanting to sponsor a Pilgrim and the increase in

the cost. However, the Lord always provides a

way! After talking with several members of the

Secretariat it seems possible for several people to

contribute to the cost!

So, how can we do this? When you want to spon-

sor someone and feel you are unable to pay the

total amount just contact others to ask for financial

assistance.

As a reminder there is some scholarship money

available. Or perhaps you have other thoughts to

share on this concern.

Let the Lord lead you in ways to get the funding

together to sponsor someone for the Pilgrimage

weekend.

Dea Smith, Outreach Committee

How To Connect A Table Group

One of the very principles of forming table groups

makes it difficult to keep them connected after the

weekend.

We form table groups on the premise that it’s best

for the folks at the table not to be familiar with

each other initially - no spouses, couples or even

members of the same church.

It works - thanks to this policy, table groups are

enabled to form together freely and naturally - but

it’s tough to keep them in connection after the

weekend.

There are ways, however. Here are a few of them:

1. Establish a round robin newsletter of your

table by e-mail. Try sending out the first mes-

sage by e-mail to the table group the day after

you return from the weekend. Ask specific

questions of individual members that relate to

comments mentioned during time together on

the weekend, ―Mary, did you find that your

thousand island dressing left in the sink had

permanently bonded to your salad plate?‖

―Joe, did you find that the neighborhood dogs

had left you a nice covering of shredded

newspapers in your front yard?‖ ―Did any-

body feel any different when they woke up

this morning?‖ Try to stir up enough memo-

ries and responses to get and keep an e-mail

correspondence going.

2. Arrange to meet together at the next Ultreya

to have a reunion of the Table of Whatever.

The main thing is to arrange to have a table

together at the Ultreya.

3. Arrange to get together for dinner before or

after the next serenade. It would be useful to

let one of your recent pilgrims pick the restau-

rant and make the arrangements - though you

or your table co-leader will need to approve

the timing because of all the events that take

place before and after the serenade.

4. Similar to the above, arrange to meet and have

dinner together before the closing worship of

an upcoming weekend.

5. Consider getting the members of your table

group to staff a particular weekend together–

that should provide plenty of opportunities to

connect with each other.

6. Engage in some sort of ministry as a group

project together. Obviously, the constraints of

distance will limit what you can do, but con-

sider taking up a ministry of outreach to one

or more churches that are more or less central-

ly located to your group. Other possibilities

might be for your group to take responsibility

for providing supplies for the comfort table,

or for the art table, or for your group to be

responsible for creating and sending out gen-

eral palanca, or for producing a mailing to

churches from which we haven’t had many

folks attending our weekends.

Some of the above will need to be cleared with the

appropriate members of your council. Tom

The National Presbyterian October, 2011 Volume 13, Number 4 Page 10

This is reprinted form the July, 2000 issue.

How Do You Build An Active

Fourth Day?

I don't know, but I've got a clue!

When you consider that the Fourth Day is made

up of people who have completed a Cursillo or

Pilgrimage weekend; people who are fired up,

enthusiastic, in awe of our God - this should be a

moot question. The Fourth Day should build it-

self, full of folks who are eager to continue in the

wonderful way they learned on their weekend.

Okay - that's not true of everybody - just 50 to 80

percent of everybody, maybe, but our problem

should still be one of crowd control rather than

one of begging people to turn out.

John Day dealt with this at some length in the

December, 1999 issue. We reprinted his article in

the August, 2011 issue. You might find it useful to

dig out that issue and re-read his piece.

I'm going to suggest to our new moderator that

this should be a major topic of discussion at an up

coming meeting - perhaps at our spring meeting in

Charleston.

I suggest to you now that you begin to consider

the effort very carefully at your council/secretariat

meetings and other gatherings. One issue that

should be considered is the matter of how the pil-

grims are introduced to the 4th Day. The modera-

tor deals with it in his/her talk, but more is needed.

I suggest you think very seriously about the con-

tents and presentation of the fourth day packet the

pilgrims receive.

You might also want to think about having the

fourth day 'displayed' at an early Ultreya by hav-

ing fourth day folks make brief presentations -

congratulating the pilgrims, and team. The place

of the fourth day should be explained by having

those who set-up and cleaned-up the party. Ditto

the serenaders, cross maker, lanyard maker, regis-

trar, council/secretariat members and community

moderator. This would have to be done quickly

and with a light sense of humor. It can't be al-

lowed to drag, but it ought to be done. Pilgrims

need to understand that everybody - including

themselves, now - is a member of the fourth Day.

Homecoming gatherings and Ultreyas are great, as

are gatherings and Ultreyas planned to prepare

palanca, etc. for the upcoming weekend.

A regular schedule of Ultreyas, gatherings and

reunion groups is essential! Be sure to keep them

interesting, fun and well publicized.

An ideal way to ruin a fourth day group is to have

only a very few, poorly planned, dull events kept

carefully secret until the very last minute.

If your community is anything like ours, with par-

ticipating churches more than 100 miles apart,

consider regional gatherings with 2 or 3 Ultreyas

a year for the whole group. Be sure to include

everybody in a gathering group.

I don't know the answers to this quandary any

more than anyone else - but I do have one very

strong clue - the gatherings we make fun and in-

teresting - and well publicized - are well attended.

The last minute reluctant 'I guess we better have a

gathering' lash ups with nothing of interest

planned are poorly attended. There was an article

in the August, 2011 issue about how to make

Ultreyas more inviting. Tom

No, we don’t have

any particular surprises here

at Cursillo—it’s pretty much

like your average Bible

Study.

“Never tell a fib to a pilgrim…”

The National Presbyterian October, 2011 Volume 13, Number 4 Page 11

Dawn Kingsbery wrote:

I recently was talking with a fellow church mem-

ber about attending Cursillo. As we visited I

thought of a few of the joys of being a Curchee-

to…

I have made so many wonderful friends through-

out the Presbytery and beyond. Folks (and that

even includes pastors!) that I would most likely

never have met, much less shared experiences of

work and play, sorrow and laughter, and the love

of serving one another in Christ’s name.

I feel even more connected to my church, Presby-

tery, and the ―big‖ church – PCUSA.

Rich Schempp said that Cursillo is one of the best

things that has ever happened to our Presbytery –

we have gotten to know one another! I can walk

into any Presbyterian Church now and feel that I

belong, whether I know the pastor, members or

even if I don’t know anyone – that is just an op-

portunity to make new friends!

Cursillo has opened my eyes and heart to many

meaningful ways to celebrate and worship God. I

felt that sitting on the back row and being as invis-

ible as possible was the appropriate way to attend

church. Gratefully, reverently raising my hands,

communion by intinction, silly skits, reaching out

to hold hands with virtual strangers, and loving

praise music were not mentioned in the participant

application!

As a result of Cursillo I have changed from a re-

luctant leader into a joyful willing leader and par-

ticipant in my church! I have gone from a dormant

member to a lively member – just like that cater-

pillar/chrysalis to butterfly!!

Peace of Christ, Dawn Kingsbery

Amen to both! P.S. what’s a Curcheeto—is it any good with salsa?

In preparation for the upcoming Palo Duro week-

end # 25, Jim Sullivan, the weekend Moderator

asked two of his staffers to record their thoughts

for the staff. This is what they wrote.

To The PDPC # 25 Staff

Charlie Rush wrote:

As I think about my experience with Cursillo, I

recall several things.

First, I had been asked to Cursillo for several

years and always declined, but I finally accept-

ed. Then at the last minute something came up

and I had to cancel and honestly that was OK with

me. However, the folks at my church didn’t give

up and invited me again the next year and I finally

made it there. I truly believe that the Lord brings

the right people together at the right time.

Secondly, I was never a ―camp‖ person and was

certainly less than comfortable when I got there. I

was stressed and tired from work and suddenly

was in the midst of all these smiling

strangers. During the lemonade welcome, I just

took off and went for a walk to quiet myself and

asked the Lord to help me to be receptive for

whatever He had in store for me that weekend. To

say the least, I was a bit apprehensive, but the

night of silence was wonderful and allowed me to

begin to wind down. You never know the mindset

of those coming to Cursillo or what part of the

Cursillo experience will be most beneficial or

meaningful to a particular person.

Finally, I remember driving home after the final

ceremony, still not sure about how I felt about

what I’d just experienced. I was tired but com-

pletely relaxed and at peace. I remember feeling a

little dread at the thought of returning to the ―real

world‖. It took quite a while for me to mentally

and emotionally process the weekend, but in the

end I knew I wanted and needed more of what had

been so freely given; friendship, unlimited smiles

and uncritical love.

As we prepare for Cursillo, let us remember that

we are just tools and it is the Lord who will shape

the weekend and all those participating into what

they need to be.

Charlie Rush,

The National Presbyterian October, 2011 Volume 13, Number 4 Page 12

Glenn Miller, a member of North Texas Presbyter-

ian Pilgrimage, publishes a daily message entitled

Thoughts Along The Way. His thoughts may be

reproduced for noncommercial use only. This is

his offering for 9/19/2011.

Bi-Directional Piety

GOD’S WORD: “Love the Lord your God with

all your heart and with all your soul and with

all your mind. This is the first and greatest

commandment. And the second is like it: Love

your neighbor as yourself. All the law and the

prophets hang on these two commandments.”

Matt 22:37-40

Piety is one of those words that modern Christiani-

ty doesn’t use very much anymore. To many, it

implies a zealousness or ―holier than thou‖ atti-

tude towards others. But piety is in fact a tenet of

our Christian faith and is simply our awareness of

and the nurturing of our spiritual relationships.

Being the quantitative person that I am, I can’t

think about something very long without develop-

ing a diagram or a flow chart. And along those

lines, I see two intersecting directional lines; a

horizontal one and a vertical one.

The vertical line symbolizes our relationship be-

tween ourselves and God. We must constantly be

aware of God’s presence and placing Him sover-

eign in our lives. To practice piety, we must nur-

ture those things that draw that awareness of Him

and His will for us. We can do this through prayer,

study and meditation, just to name a few disci-

plines.

The horizontal line symbolizes our relationship

with others. We must constantly be aware that we

serve a greater purpose than just satisfaction of

ourselves. To practice piety, we can nurture those

relationships that God has given us by involving

ourselves in ministry, discipleship, fellowship and

living among and in the community of saints, rec-

ognizing all of God’s children as His beloved chil-

dren.

The two lines also represent the two greatest com-

mandments; ―that you shall love the Lord your

God with all your heart and with all your soul and

with all your mind;‖ and ―love your neighbor as

yourself.‖

And when I look at these two intersecting lines,

they form the Cross.

So perhaps what we should ask ourselves, Are we

nurturing our piety in one direction or both?

Just a thought… Glenn Miller

Reprinted from the February, 2000 edition.

Not Your Usual Gathering!

The Douglasville, Georgia First Presbyterian

Fourth Day enjoyed a day of preparation for GPC

13 on Saturday, February 26, 2000.

Word of our plans got around and friends from

four other churches joined us, including folks

from our usual gathering partner the Austell Pres-

byterian Church.

The four hour gathering was a busy one. First

came singing; then we prepared the usual batch of

John Calvin’s Geneva Style Trail Mix for pilgrims

and staff on GPC 13.

We then undertook preparation of palanca and

place-mats, while a small band concentrated on

making a banner to be sent by the Georgia Com-

munity to one of our new communities.

After supper, we listened to the Action talk given

by one of our number as well as a devotional giv-

en by another.

A bit more singing, then cleanup, and we went

home happy.

Why not consider having a regular workday in

preparation for each weekend?

Twice a year the James community has Palanca

Parties incorporated in the Ultreya held before

each Presbyterian Pilgrimage weekend. Tom

―Feed my sheep!‖ John 21:17

The National Presbyterian October, 2011 Volume 13, Number 4 Page 13

^

Or Renewal

Reprinted from our September, 2000 issue. More

from the North Carolina newsletter. Look at the

last line and you'll see that they got it from our

Emmaus friends.

Ten Reminders for Reunion

(Renewal) Groups

Please review these reminders for your Reun-

ion Group or as you plan a new one to include

our newest Pilgrims.

1. Commit yourselves - not only to God but to

each other. Be regular in attendance. when you

feel like it the least, then you need it the most.

2. Prepare yourselves ahead of time-- bring some-

thing to share and expect Jesus to meet you there.

3. Practice your disciplines - ask yourselves, do

we really want to live in grace through the prac-

tice of piety, study and grace?

4. Uphold one another - be accountable for your

Christian practice and growth. Celebrate success

and forgive failure. Be encouragers!

5. Pray for one another.

6. Focus on the service card. Focus on deeper

sharing, accountability and not on the superficial.

Honor order, but adjust to needs.

7. Retreat with one another. Once or twice a year,

plan a quiet day for prayer, spiritual conversation,

scripture and the sharing of life goals and commit-

ments.

8. Plan discipleship. Don't skip "your plan" for the

week. Pray for everyone's perseverance.

9. Act as a group and plan mission -- through the

church, Pilgrimage palanca, or in your communi-

ty.

10. Be spiritual friends. Be one who listens more

deeply than you listen to yourself. One who can be

faithful to what is best within yourself. A spiritual

friend helps you keep the fire burning within.

"BE CONFIDENTIAL!"

Hopefully this will be very helpful. Your Reunion

Group is one of those places you should happily

anticipate each week.

(Modified from Central Carolina Emmaus

Community newsletter -- April 1994)

This little group of Music Chas is a reprint, too—from the August, 2011 issue.

The National Presbyterian October, 2011 Volume 13, Number 4 Page 14

This is from the Spiritual Director’s message to

the Peaks Pilgrimage community. It was written

by Rev. Robert McRae and copied in the May,

2000 edition.

Where Do You Keep Your Valuables?

When we think of guarding, storing, or protecting

valuables, we usually think of banks, strong box-

es, steel safes, or at least some secret hiding place.

Depending on our age, of course, and also depend-

ing on just what it is that we consider "valuable",

we will usually take appropriate precautions with

things that we consider our "treasures".

Not surprisingly, though, God has a different

economy from that which we encounter in our

busy world. In God's economy the most valuable

treasure of all, He has chosen to put in ordinary,

breakable "clay pots". What is that treasure? It's

the Gospel! It's God's good news of forgiveness in

Jesus Christ! It's God's good news of a hope that

will endure through any hardship, through any

trouble, through any catastrophe life can bring‑a

hope that is eternal. And just think... a treasure

like that, in a clay pot?

Well, that's the way Paul puts it in II Corinthians

4:7. And that's the way it is! We have the treasure

and we are more like "clay pots" than any of us

probably want to admit. We are ordinary; we are

breakable; we are expendable; we are replaceable;

we often contain things we were not designed to

hold; we come in different sizes, styles, and

shapes ....

BUT, we are chosen! And we don't have lids that

seal, conceal, protect from the elements, that treas-

ure within. No, that treasure was meant to be

shared. We are made so that the treasure over-

flows and spills out onto and into other such clay

pots so that they, too may share that treasure

And because we are like "clay pots "we don't get

any of the glory which attends that treasure. The

glory goes to God.

Amen!

Web Sites

About Presbyterian Cursillo and Pilgrimage in

General www.Days3.com www.cursillo.com

Web sites of specific communities: Alabama www.alpresbyteriancursillo.com

Arkansas www.cursillo-arkansas.org

Autin www.austinpresbyterianpilgrimage.org

Chicagoland www.chpilgrimage.org

Colorado www.coloradopilgrimage.org

Eastern Oklahoma

www.geocities.com/eopcursillo

*** Eastern Virginia www.days3.com/EV.htm

Florida www.floridacursillo.org

Geogia www.georgiapresbyteriancursillo.com

Great Plains Omaha) www.gpppilgrimage.org

Houston www.houstoncursillo.org

Indiana www.ipcursillo.org

James Virginia www.PJPilgrimage.org

Louisiana

www.louisianapresbyteriancursillo.org

Michigan www.mppilgrimage.org

Mississippi www.mspresbyteriancursillo.com

North Carolina www.ncpilgrimage.org

North Texas Adult: www.ntpp.org

Youth: www.northtexascelebration.com

Oklahoma www.days3.com/OK.htm

Palo Duro www.paloduropresbytery.org

Peaks Virginia - www.peakspresbytery.org/

pilgrimage.html

Shenandoah Virginia - www.math.jmu.edu/

~sanders/SPP.html

South Carolina

www.scpresbyterianpilgrimage.org

Tennessee Valley www.cursillo.com/tvpc.htm

*** The community does not yet have it's own separate web site. This will take you to the

community web page in our national web site.

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Weekends Currently Scheduled Adult Weekends College Age Weekends High School Age Weekends Something Different

Dates Weekend Lay Leader

Sep 29 to Oct 2, 2011 Michigan Presbyterian Pilgrimage # 18 (Detroit) Helena Kampwerth

Sep 29 to Oct 2, 2011 Oklahoma Presbyterian Pilgrimage # 46 Sonya Humes

Oct 6 to 9, 2011 South Carolina Presbyterian Pilgrimage # 61 Diane Dunham

Oct 6 to 9, 2011 Palo Duro Presbyterian Cursillo # 25 Jim Sullivan

Oct 6 to 9, 2011 Colorado Presbyterian Pilgrimage # 24 Susan Ellis

Oct 13 to 16, 2011 North Carolina Presbyterian Pilgrimage # 108 David Farmer

Oct 13 to 16, 2011 Michigan Presbyterian Pilgrimage # 19 Mary Moses

Oct 13 to 16, 2011 Tennessee Valley Presbyterian Cursillo # 17 Kemie Brown-Vansant

Oct 13 to 16, 2011 Arkansas Presbyterian Cursillo # 15 Ron David

Oct 20 to 23, 2011 North Texas Presbyterian Pilgrimage # 31 LaVoy Hooker

Oct 20 to 23, 2011 Peaks Presbyterian Pilgrimage # 47 TBA

Oct 20 to 23, 2011 Nebraska/Iowa Great Plains Presbyterian Pilgrimage # 10 Tami Hillyer

Oct 27 to 30, 2011 Florida Presbyterian Cursillo # 6 Minnette Mullings

Oct 27 to 30, 2011 Mississippi Presbyterian Cursillo # 8 Becky Hennessey

Oct 27 to 30, 2011 Houston Presbyterian Cursillo # 65 Dennis Hobbs

Nov 3 to 6, 2011 Georgia Presbyterian Cursillo # 39 Lucy Cooley

Nov 3 to 6, 2011 North Carolina Presbyterian Pilgrimage # 109 Woody Beck

Nov 4 to 6, 2011 South Carolina Celebration # 34 Morgan Bennett

Jan 13 to 15, 2012 North Texas Celebration # 13 TBA

Jan 14 to 16, 2012 North Carolina Presbyterian Arise # 36 Central Ellen Quinlan

Jan 14 to 16, 2012 Houston Area Celebration # 12 Brian O'Donnell

Feb 9 to 12, 2012 Houston Presbyterian Cursillo #66 Gayle Price

Mar 1 to 4, 2012 North Texas Presbyterian Pilgrimage # 32 Emily Nichols

Mar 1 to 4, 2012 Oklahoma Presbyterian Pilgrimage # 47 Jayne Spies

Mar 29 to Apr 1, 2012 Georgia Presbyterian Cursillo # 40 Dave Elkins

Apr 12 to 15, 2012 Alabama Presbyterian Cursillo # 28 Ames Yokel

Apr 19 to 22, 2012 Peaks Presbyterian Pilgrimage # 48 TBA

Apr 19 to 22, 2012 Nebraska/Iowa Great Plains Presbyterian Pilgrimage # 11 Chuck Shafer

Apr 19 to 22, 2012 Tennessee Valley Presbyterian Cursillo # 18 Laurel Blackwell

Apr 19 to 22, 2012 Houston Presbyterian Cursillo # 67 Elizabeth Reaves

Apr 26 to 29, 2012 Arkansas Presbyterian Pilgrimage # 16 Madeleine Middleton

Apr 26 to 29, 2012 Chicagoland Presbyterian Pilgrimage #22 Karen Bregman

Apr 26 to 29, 2012 Florida Presbyterian Cursillo # 7 TBA

Apr 26 to 29, 2012 Colorado Presbyterian Pilgrimage # 25 TBA

Apr 27 to 29, 2012 South Carolina Celebration # 35 J acob Woelke

May 3 to 6, 2012 South Carolina Presbyterian Pilgrimage # 62 Steve Brown

May 3 to 6, 2012 Mississippi Presbyterian Cursillo # 9 Tom McIlwain

Jul 13 to 15, 2012 Houston Area Celebration #13 TBA

Aug 16 to 19, 2012 Georgia Presbyterian Cursillo # 41 Bob Gilbert

Sep 1 to 3, 2012 North Carolina Presbyterian Arise # 37 East TBA

Sep 1 to 3, 2012 North Carolina Presbyterian Arise # 38 West TBA

Sep 20 to 23, 2012 Alabama Presbyterian Cursillo # 29 Lacie Maynard

Sep 27 to 30, 2012 Mississippi Presbyterian Cursillo # 10 Linda McDowell

Oct 4 to 7, 2012 South Carolina Presbyterian Pilgrimage # 63 TBA

Oct 4 to 7, 2012 Oklahoma Presbyterian Pilgrimage # 48 TBA

Oct 11 to 14, 2012 Tennessee Valley Presbyterian Cursillo # 19 TBA

Oct 18 to 21, 2012 North Texas Presbyterian Pilgrimage # 33 Carla Szafran

Oct 18 to 21, 2012 Arkansas Presbyterian Pilgrimage # 17 Janice Ray

Oct 18 to 21, 2012 Peaks Presbyterian Pilgrimage # 49 TBA

Oct 18 to 21, 2012 Nebraska/Iowa Great Plains Presbyterian Pilgrimage # 12 Carol Rudesill

Oct 25 to 28, 2012 Colorado Presbyterian Pilgrimage # 26 TBA

Nov 1 to 4, 2012 Florida Presbyterian Cursillo # 8 TBA

Apr 18 to 21, 2013 Peaks Presbyterian Pilgrimage # 50! TBA

Apr 18 to 21, 2013 Nebraska/Iowa Great Plains Presbyterian Pilgrimage # 13 TBA

May 2 to 5, 2013 Mississippi Presbyterian Cursillo # 11 Woodie Cowart

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Contacts Alabama Sissy Crowe ecrowe1256@aol.com Terry Skinner Kd4upq@netscape.com

Arkansas Sandra Phillips arpc.registrar@gmail.com (870) 688-9189

Debbie Cordell arpc.council@gmail.com (501) 209-1841

Austin Texas Brenda and Chris Grafft www.austinpresbyterian@gmail.com (512) 263-8670

Chicagoland Eleanor Ehresman eleanor.ehresman@moody.edu 847-724-6205

Laura Jones laurajones@sbcglobal.net

Colorado Dave and Mary Rowe rowedm2@yahoo.com (719) 594-9908 Beth Lebsock bethleb@aol.com

Eastern Oklahoma Janie Blake kja-blake@netzero.net (918) 367-9714 Co Edwards coedwards@swbell.net

Eastern Virginia James T White 1600pennave@whro.net (757) 459-8220

Florida Neely Inlow nsinlow@yahoo.com (904) 891-6000

Georgia Debi Elkins GPCRegistrar@gmail.com (770) 458-6415

Houston Adult: Walter Hill registrar@houstoncursillo.org (713) 661-8488

Youth: Trish McElroy p.mcelroy@windstream.net (281) 277-1706 Rene Murphy Lrene77@hotmail.com

Indiana Holly Stoiche on the website - www.ipcursillo.org Jay Farlow palanca@ipcursillo.org

Doug Anderson Doug.Anderson@fleetwood.com

James Virginia - Claudia Dickerson claudiadickerson@suntrust.com (804) 550-0841

Mitch Rowland JMR3A1A@comcast.net

Louisiana Sandy Broussard nannyswb@aol.com

Michigan George Davidson detgcd@gmail.com (616) 656-2782 David Andrus dwabear@comcast.net

Mississippi Janet McIlwain - jmcilwain@cableone.net (228) 875-1249

Tom Mcilwain tmcilwain@cableone.net (228) 875-1249

Nebraska/Iowa- Great Plains Darlene Grandia darlenegrandia@hotmail.com (712) 323-1448

Shelly Story dstory@gpcom.net (402) 586-2634

North Carolina Adult: Jim Mason masonjim@aol.com (336) 491-9970

Arise Youth: Nancy Alderson nance.123@yahoo.com (910) 515-4170 (cell)

Mary Ann & Bill Kopp thekopps@triad.rr.com Chip Todd sunsetnc@bellsouth.net

North Texas Adult: Karen Harris registrar@ntpp.org (903) 235-6763

Youth: Melvin Turner celebrationregistrar@gmail.com (972) 618-4809

Oklahoma Adult: Sheron Davis sheron51@cox.net

Youth: Kay Denneny c/o First Presbyterian Church, 1000 S. Rankin, Edmond, OK 73034

Bob Bentley bobjenben@cableone.net

Palo Duro Texas - Janet Price jlgprice8@hotmail.com (806) 797-6320

Chuck Nester cnest3597@suddenlink.net

Peaks Virginia - Bill Cowen william.cowen@gmail.com P O Box1024, Buchanan,VA 24066

Susan Caldwell caldwell1969@cox.net

Shenandoah - Virginia - Jeanette McCloud jeanettemccloud@yahoo.com

Linda Mohler LD67emu01@aol.com

South Carolina Adult: J C Simmons jsimmons14@sc.rr.com (843) 871-3944

Youth & Cross Training: Mike Allen mikeallen56@aol.com (843) 200-1899

Tennessee Valley Mary Snyder bamananamary@yahoo.com (256) 558-5956 Keith Johnson KJOH57@hotmail.com (256) 751-4392