CHURCH WITHOUT WALL SURVEY FINDINGS : PROGRESS UPDATE OCTOBER, 2014.

CHURCH WITHOUT WALLSURVEY FINDINGS : PROGRESS UPDATE

OCTOBER, 2014

PURPOSE OF THE SURVEY

• A Survey was conducted to review the progress of CHURCH WITHOUT WALL in all GPM churches with the objectives of :

• Re-strategizing focus on the weaker churches and segments

• Promoting wider and deeper churches’ and members’ participation

• Celebrating success and sharing good practices

• Strengthening resource

to accelerate the achievement of CWW goals.

• The survey form was sent to all 125 churches in June 2014 and the latest response was received on October 21, 2014.

RESPONDENTS BY PRESBYTERYSouthern Presbytery (6977 in 59 churches)No Name in Chinese Name in English # of Members

1 新山真理堂 Chen-Li Presbyterian Church 3182 居銮佳美堂 GP Gabriel 1333 蔴坡加利利堂 Galilee Presbyterian Church 904 关丹荣恩堂 GP Kuantan Glorious Grace 1565 居銮佳音堂 Herald Presbyterian Church 4006 新山圣光堂 GP Holy Light 5387 新山大学城圣光堂 Gereja Presbyterian Holy Light Tmn U 1108 士古来恩慈堂 GP Kindness 1239 蔴坡活水堂 Living Waters PC 472

10 马六甲堂 GP Melaka 31111 新山和平堂 Peace PC 21612 昔加末堂 GP Segamat 7213 古来圣安德烈堂 SAPC Kulai 17814 丰盛港宣道所 GP Mersing 4315 四湾岛宣道所 Penggerang Preaching Station 9016 三一长老教会 Trinity PC JB 125

Total 3375

RESPONDENTS BY PRESBYTERYWestern Presbytery (2664 in 24 churches)

No Name in Chinese Name in English # of Members

1 沐恩堂 GP Anoiting Grace 772 巴占圣安德烈堂 Bercham GP St Andrew 803 巴生堂 Klang PC 2884 原道堂蕉赖首都镇 Bandar Damai Perdana Logos

1173

5 原道堂双溪龙 Bandar Sg Long Logos6 原道堂蕉赖大同 Cheras Logos7 原道堂白沙罗 Damansara Logos 8 原道堂吧生路 OKR Logos 9 原道堂八打灵 PJ Logos 10 原道堂文良港 Setapak Logos 11 原道堂蒲种 Puchong Logos 12 怡保圣安德烈堂 SAPC Ipoh Chinese 20313 无拉港堂 GP Balakong 47

Total 1868

RESPONDENTS BY PRESBYTERYNorthern Presbytery (635 in 11 churches)


1 登嘉楼堂 GP Kuala Terengganu 160

2 龙运宣道所 GP Dungun 50

3 瓜登唐人街宣道所 GP Kampung Cina Kuala Terangganu

5

4 GP Kemaman 13

Total 228

RESPONDENTS BY PRESBYTERY


1 Acts Generation PC 44

2 圣爱堂 Agape PC 131

3 亚依则尼堂 Air Jernih PC 61

4 忠仆堂 Doulos PC 84

5 蔴坡以马内利堂 Gereja Emmanuel Muar 114

6 恩惠堂 Gereja Grace Batu Pahat 202

7 GP Gospel Esplosion 36

8 希伯仑堂 Hebron PC 147

9 圣光堂 Holy Light Church 504

10 City Disciples PC 523

11 Melaka PC English Service 34

12 SAPC Pengkalan 70

13 古来圣安德烈堂（英） SAPC Kulai English 41

14 Unity PC 60

15 ESP-KBM 630

Total 2681

English Presbytery with KBM (3500 in 31 churches)

PROFILE OF THE RESPONDENTS

•Total respond rate : 38% representing 59% of people.

•Southern Presbytery : 27%

•Western Presbytery : 54%

•Northern Presbytery : 36%

•ESP with KBM : 48%

SUMMARY OF RESPONDENTS : TOTAL 48

Southern Western Northern English

# of Respondents 16 13 4 15

# of churches 59 24 11 31

5

15

25

35

45

55

65

75

16 134

15

59

24

11

31

Response by Presbyteries

Everybody Can Serve

SURVEY FINDINGS

OCTOBER, 2014

757 PEOPLE ADDED TO THE CHURCH

Southern Western Northern ESP0

50

100

150

200

250

300

350

400

450

Southern; 163

Western; 209

Northern; 0

ESP; 385

Additions by Presbyteries

• Of which 160 in ESP-KBM• 16 churches with 0 and –ve growth

CWW Goal in 2020 : add 10,000

OBSERVATIONS & COMMENTS:

•based on current progress, only 50% of the goal will be

achieved in 2020

•proposed corrective strategies:

•second worship group - Church Growth Committee

• train members on personal evangelism (include “the

Presbyterian way”) - Education Committee

•pastors and lay-leaders re-training - Education Committee

• rural church adoption - Presbytery Exco

9 new churches addedChurch Southern Western Northern ESP

1 Chen-Li Presbyterian Church

1

2 ESP-KBM 3*

3 Holy Light Church 1

4 GP Holy Light 1

5 GP Gabriel 1

6 Doulos PC 1

7 Trinity PC JB 1

Total 4 0 0 5

CWW Goal in 2020 : add 30 churches

* 2 Torajan


•More aggressive church-planting in WP?

•Emulate the past success of Logos churches in

church planting, to plant more new churches in

Sg. Buloh, Setia Alam, PJ Utara, Dengkil?

•Develop second worship group in churches?

NUMBER OF FULL-TIME MISSIONARY

SouthernWestern

NorthernESP

0

1

2

3

4

5

6

11

0

6

Church Southern Western Northern ESPAgape PC 2Holy Light Church

4

新山和平堂 Peace PC1

巴生堂 Klang PC 1

CWW Goal in 2020 : 10 missionaries

56 SEMINARY-TRAINED FULL TIME CHINESE/ENGLISH PASTORS :

141

104

215

170*

ave. # of worshiper per pastor

Southern Western Northern ESP

Southern :24Western : 18Northern :1

ESP : 13

14 SEMINARY-TRAINED FULL TIME BM PASTORS

8 CHURCHES WITHOUT PASTORS

* Exclude BM

CWW Goal in 2020 : 240 C&E pastors and 20 BM pastors

OBSERVATIONS FOR DISCUSSIONS(1/2):

• Review GPM Constitution and structure/system (Synod Exco & Constitution

Committee)

• to evaluate and enhance the responsibility and competency/suitability of all in

service.

• to empower lay leaders for higher responsibility.

• Effective resource allocation

• Assign pastors to weaker church (Presbytery Exco and local church)

• Re-deploy pastors for personal and kingdom development in green fields or

church plants e.g. BM pastors (HR Committee/ ESP-KBM).

• Introduce pastor’s succession planning (HR Committee)

• Hire pastors from other reformed churches (HR Committee)

OBSERVATIONS FOR DISCUSSIONS (2/2):

•Recruit in advance from Seminaries.(HR Committee)

•Develop training program in leadership/management,

people/crisis management etc. to enhance competency

levels of pastors and to inculcate kingdom mind-set, and

be relevant to the times.(Education Committee)

•Introduce a internship program (HR Committee)

•Revamp system and communication to improve pastors’

sense of ownership and inclusiveness in the organisation.

(Synod Exco)

138 TRAINED LAY LEADERS IN 25 CHURCHES

Southern Western Northern ESP0

10

20

30

40

50

60

70

16 134

159 9

07

62

36

0

40

Distribution of leaders in churches by Presbyteries

Total # Church #church with trained leaders #trained leaders

6 churches with 0 pastor and 0 lay leader

CWW Goal in 2020 : 960 trained leaders


• About half of the churches have some trained leaders. Based on current progress,

there will only be 360 trained leaders in 2020, achieving 38% of goal.

• A serious matter : 6 churches are without pastor and trained leaders.

• Having adequate and competent lay leaders is becoming extremely important due

to:

• Current shortage of pastors

• The Presbyterian structure and set-up

• Proposed corrective strategies:

• Develop programs to train entry-level leaders and others on continuous

education – Education Committee

• Regular talent-scouting e.g. young potentials in PTI – Presbytery Exco and PTI

Committee

PARTICIPATION OF PEOPLE IN MISSION

? 0 2% 3% 5% 10% 15% 16% 20% 25% 30% 35% 80%0

2

4

6

8

10

12

2

8

21

5

11

4

1

5

2

5

1 1

# of churches with % of people in mission trips

# of churches

CWW Goal in 2020 : 50% of people in mission


•GPM as a whole does not appear to be a missional church.

•After the survey of the mission committee what has taken

place to make churches more missional? Has mission fund

been directed according to importance of its use? (mission

committee)

•Consider maximising the resources available, both human

and funding, from organization such as CWM for mission

ministries.

CHURCHES’ INVOLVEMENT IN MISSION AND SOCIAL AGENCY

0 1 2 3 4 5 80

2

4

6

8

10

12

14

16

18

20

0 0 0 0 0 0 00 0 0 0 0 0 0

7

18

6 57

41

# of churches with # of agencies

# of church

# of agencies

CWW Goal in 2020 : with at least 1 agency per church

CHURCHES’ INVOLVEMENT IN CROSS-CULTURAL MINISTRY

0 1 2 3 40

2

4

6

8

10

12

14

16

18

20

1 0 0 0 0 0 01 0 0 0 0 0 0

19

14

75

30 0

# of churches with # of cross-cultural ministries

# of church

# of ministries

# o

f ch

urc

h

CWW Goal in 2020 : all 150 churches sustain 1 ministry

OBSERVATIONS & COMMENTS (1/2):

•Other than ESP-KBM Torajan ministry and the OA ministry

locally, cross cultural ministry seems to focus more at

host countries in Myanmar, Cambodia and others.

•There does not seem to be many meaningful sustainable

cross-cultural mission at our door-step. The opportunity of

evangelizing to more than 5 million migrant workers in the

country is still un-tapped. (Church growth committee and

Presbytery Exco)


• The current social-political situation in the country and the hostility

towards Christianity at home and abroad make evangelizing to the Bahasa

speaking communities throughout the country becoming more urgent

• To exploit the strength of the growing Torajan congregation and the

relatively larger number of BM speaking pastors, whether to consider

setting up more aggressively BM congregations in East Malaysia and in

the Peninsula. (Church growth committee and ESP Exco)

• Do necessary things to make KBM and Torajan church feel inclusive in

GPM. Empower their pastors and leaders. Take them as equal partner in

the Presbytery. (Synod Exco & ESP Exco)

PEOPLE INVOLVEMENT IN COMMUNITY

? 0 3% 4% 5% 10% 15% 20% 30% 50%0

2

4

6

8

10

12

14

0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 00 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0

6 6

13 2

12

3

7 7

1

churches with people in community

# of church

% of people in community ministry

# o

f ch

urc

hes

CWW Goal in 2020 : 80% of people in community ministry


• Churches are far from impacting the community as only 18 churches

(out of 48) have 15% and more of the people involved in community.

• More churches are embarking on one-off, short-sighted ministry

e.g.7979 which lacks long-term sustainable, impactful community

program e.g. EIP in Gereja Grace Batu Pahat. (Presbytery Exco)

• To evaluate existing community projects for potential to develop into

sustainable projects, considering the resource allocation.

(Community Committee)

CHURCH IN NATION BUILDING

always sometimes never0

5

10

15

20

25

30

35

40

27 churches

21 churches

0

12 churches

34 churches

2 churches

Churches pray for the nationChurches speak on injustice

Pray Voice

CHURCH IN NATION BUILDING

most memb some only a few only0

5

10

15

20

25

11 churches

21 churches

16 churches

Churches concern with national/social/religious issues of the nation

# of churches

members

COMMENTS (1/2):

• Every citizen, person or corporate, has the responsibility and right

to uphold the Federal Constitution of the nation and the justice and

equality of its people. Prolonged failure and continuous

lackadaisical attitude would aggravate the worsening situation in

this country.

• GPM churches have to be awakened. The least the church and its

people can do is to fervently pray persistently and to express its

stand on injustice etc. while waiting for fulfilment of God’s promise

for His people.

COMMENTS (2/2):

•Church leaders especially the pastors have to take

leadership role in creating awareness of nation

building in the church. Propose to get Christian

elected representatives to share with pastors and

leaders occasionally; start with Synod AGM and

Presbytery AGM?

ENVIRONMENT AND CREATION CARE AWARENESS

?10%always

4%

sometimes52%

never33%

Frequency of churches to educate/promote creation care

? always sometimes never

COMMENTS:

•This sector appears to be in the lower priority of

the churches.

•This sector champion and his team have many

diverse activities and interesting programs to

promote creation care. Tap these resources!!

FOCUS ON THE FAMILY

?2% regularly

23%

sometimes63%

never13%

How often churches have activities/programs to strengthen family

? regularly sometimes never

EDUCATION

yes

no

20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27

# of churches involved in education ministry

# of churches

COMMUNICATION

yes

no

0 5 10 15 20 25 30 35 40

36

12

# of churches with communication media

# of churches

CHRISTIAN MUSIC, ARTS AND CULTURE

yes

no

0 5 10 15 20 25 30 35

17

31

# of churches having Christian music, arts and cultural activities

# of churches

ON CWW COMMUNICATION

39 churches had CWW Day

yes no4252 people in CWW Day

COMMENTS:

• It appears that just about half of the people have heard or

remembered CWW three years after the launch.

• To improve communication:

• “Tien Huo” which features CWW articles regularly has to be

bilingual, if not trilingual.

• All publications/reports need to be done, at least, with English

alongside Chinese

• All meetings have to take cognizance of the presence of ESP and

KBM members.

• To continue with roadshows

THANK YOU

OCTOBER, 2014

CHURCH WITHOUT WALL SURVEY FINDINGS : PROGRESS UPDATE OCTOBER, 2014.

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