Archive Session 152

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UKedchat Archive 23rd May2013 Hosted by @HoDTeacher

What makes a good observationfor observer and observed?

21:00:36 ukedchatIt's 9pm. Huge thanks to @HoDTeacher for hostingtonights #ukedchat. The archive will be athttp://t.co/VGbxJ8DSKK soon.

21:00:11 CharHarAgain

RT @LPerformance: I will be there! @CharHarAgain I've

written a whole enterprise workshop, which is now mybaby. Tweet you Monday! #ukedchat

21:00:08 SteveThursbyMA@MrsSarahSimons We need lesson plans, but notnecessarily a paper document #ukedchat

21:00:03 cherrylkd@nickotkdV I think peer mentoring is powerful. Lessthreatening and genuine learning on both sides.#ukedchat

21:00:03 ColinTGrahamWorth an RT: 'Is Talent Enough?' Dame Mitsuko Uchidastarts the debate http://t.co/0l1WW23Q8n #ukedchat

#gtchat #musedchat #edchat21:00:02 ColinTGraham

Worth an RT! 7 Easy GIFs That Will Teach You All YouNeed To Know About Trig In 5 Minuteshttp://t.co/58IMtMOvVn #mathchat #edchat #ukedchat

20:59:54 wallythebus @MohammedSidat Agreed there #ukedchat

20:59:48 MohammedSidatVarious ways of observations including video lessons.#ukedchat

20:59:45 LPerformanceI will be there! @CharHarAgain I've written a wholeenterprise workshop, which is now my baby. Tweet you

Monday! #ukedchat20:59:28 opeus

Anyone want to use the iAbacus for post observationcoaching, self-evaluation and improvement planning?http://t.co/NsEuPI7mSa #ukedchat

20:59:28 ToryedumacationSo another #ukedchat draws to a close and you stillseem to care far too much about ruining young peopleslives. #GetAProperJobLikeMP

20:58:41 MohammedSidatMore frequent drop in sessions rather than termly lessonlong observations. #ukedchat

20:58:12 cherrylkd@day_tom @ICTmagic @MrsPTaylor #ukedchat ManySLT teach 70% and are up to speed!

20:58:00 LPerformanceIt's horrible!! No matter how diplomatic you are it's stillawkward! @kayedog30 #ukedchat

20:57:58 HoDTeacher @LPerformance Ha ha ha, a nice way to end #ukedchat

20:57:15 CharHarAgainAny #ukedchat bods who have an interest in youthemployment (so all of you, right?) are welcome to join inwith #YthEmpChat Monday's at 8pm

20:57:02 LPerformanceWhen an old teacher (who I despised) said "You dideverything I would never do." And I thought, Yes I'vemade it! #ukedchat @HoDTeacher

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20:56:32 MrsPTaylor@day_tom @ICTmagic As a pedant, I get the perfectthing...I still get super nervous myself - a good quality inan observer I hope #ukedchat

20:56:21 Toryedumacation@asquires_ All your lessons should work. It's not rocket

science. #ukedchat

20:56:18 DanaABDULRT @ICTEvangelist: Coaching during the Obs by havingconversations between observer & observee are vpowerful. #ukedchat

20:55:53 ModChemist27More informal observations but in depth reflection byobserver and observee will really help #ukedchat

20:55:36 day_tom@Toryedumacation @ICTmagic @MrsPTaylor Andmake really loud tutting noises? #ukedchat hem hem

20:55:26 ukedchat Just 5 minutes of #ukedchat remain. Final thoughts?

20:55:17 Dandan7171RT @SheliBB: Don't forget to come and join in #DLchatat 9pm after #ukedchat to share your digital leader newsand views.Plz RT

20:55:07 asquires_I've learnt most from the lessons that didn't work#UKedchat

20:54:55 day_tom@ICTmagic @MrsPTaylor #ukedchat Is it perception ofSLT observors that they've been away from chalk facefor so long that they cant comment?

20:54:50 kayedog30 @LPerformance Yes. I had to give a 3 last year - gaveopportunity to re-do after evaluation but didn't want to.Painful for both. #ukedchat

20:54:48 cherrylkdLesson obs work best when there's trust on both sides.Have SLT observe with a class teacher & see if

judgements are same. #ukedchat

20:54:44 EnterpriseSBox

How about one 'free' a week spent observing anothercolleague?

If it's part of the culture, expected and progressive then+ve.

#ukedchat

20:54:30 MohammedSidatIn order for the children to behave, some teachers tellchildren beforehand that teachers are coming in toobserve them. #ukedchat

20:54:18 PhilPfromSCRT @opeus: Observation ---> Coaching ---> Self-evaluation ---> Improvement Planning = ProfessionalDevelopment. #ukedchat

20:54:07 mrpeel @HoDTeacher #ukedchat in previous profession. made

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me so angry I got my shit together and had good career.constructive criticism

20:53:27 opeusObservation ---> Coaching ---> Self-evaluation---> Improvement Planning = Professional

Development. #ukedchat

20:53:25 ICTEvangelistCoaching during the Obs by having conversationsbetween observer & observee are v powerful.#ukedchat


Supportive observations of internal staff by others cansupport better teaching when focused on appropriatelearning by students.

#ukedchat

20:52:39 Toryedumacation @ICTmagic @day_tom @MrsPTaylor WRONG. Obsshould be undermining and aggressive. Shd interruptTeacher and Lesson throughout. #ukedchat


Observation is important, do irregular and 'surprise'observations cause stress or are pre-planned onesunrealistic?

#ukedchat

20:52:21 HoDTeacherLittle for the host to do tonight!Great edu chat, big last 10mins: can you remember an observation that changedyou as a teacher? #ukedchat

20:52:11 day_tom@MrsPTaylor @ICTmagic I think more fear of not doingwhat the observor would do, or what happens if notperfect. #ukedchat

20:52:10 ICTmagic@MrsPTaylor @day_tom But how has that cultureand/or misconception been allow to develop? We aremeant to be professionals. #ukedchat

20:51:57 HYWEL_ROBERTSAgree together that written feedback is true reflection oflesson #ukedchat @ukedchat

20:51:52 asquires_ @rpwillan #UKedchat I'm with you in that

20:51:38 LPerformanceHow did you approach it? Especially with a teacherreluctant to change.. @HoDTeacher #ukedchat

20:51:18 MolymeMolyneux

RT @TeacherToolkit: @ukedchat #ukedchat Whatmakes a good observation for observer/observed?

1.Agreed focus2.Supportive3.Non prescriptive

4.Evidence based20:51:12 EnterpriseSBox RT @thought_weavers: #ukedchat using ofsted style

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grades is unhelpful, reinforces game playing. Purpose ofobs is to improve learning for pupils.

20:51:08 MrsPTaylor@day_tom @ICTmagic would also like to point out thatluckily I find this attitude a rarity! #ukedchat

20:50:58 LPerformance Prob be a massive distraction! We have workshops forparent & child after school that work really well@day_tom @Kezmerrelda #ukedchat

20:50:34 MrsPTaylor@day_tom @ICTmagic Honestly, I find it difficult not tothink it is the fear of being 'found out' for being slack!#ukedchat

20:50:04 EnterpriseSBoxRT @caroljallen: #ukedchat I once worked in totallyopen plan department 6 teachers so constant observ,feedback, collab excellent

20:50:00 truan_steve #ukedchat the genius that is @liggo65 designed wholesch coaching trios with 1 over riding theme of effectivefeedback & freedom 2 interpret

20:49:57 Toryedumacation@MrsPTaylor @ICTmagic You have nothing to be oriudof til Gove tells you so. Which will be never. #ukedchat

20:49:45 thechrissytIf anyone wants to comment on my class news reportsI'd be really grateful :-) - they'd love comments.http://t.co/awa1OVHj7Q #ukedchat

20:49:23 k8lwCelebrity Bloom's Taxonomy - Resources - TES

http://t.co/ea1JWfnvaL great resource! #ukedchat20:49:03 HoDTeacher

@LPerformance Yep! #ukedchat powers of diplomacyare crucial

20:49:02 ICTmagic@day_tom @MrsPTaylor I agree. But that shouldn't bethe point of obs. Should be about development *with* theteacher. Not against. #UKedchat

20:48:55 Toryedumacation@PhilPfromSC Collaboration is to be avoided all costs.Look at Coalition. #ukedchat

20:48:49 day_tom@LPerformance @Kezmerrelda Don't think studentswould like parents in the room #ukedchat although coulddo 'example lessons' for parents?


RT @rlj1981: What can you do with 500 straws?!

Building evaluative bridges for Youth Culture revision#ukedchat #sociology http://t.co/INy3DTnHdd

20:48:43 MrsPTaylor@Toryedumacation @ICTmagic Ah but what does thatmake the SLT who teaches 17 hours a week? #ukedchat

20:48:39 asquires_@rpwillan #UKedchat I agree that joint planning can beextremely valuable but observations can be useful atassessing people's planning

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20:48:27 MissDCox#ukedchat CPD should be planned to directly supportstaff in moving forwards as a result from an obs

20:48:17 DebbieHolley1RT @PhilPfromSC: #ukedchat I like when learnersunderstand learning, can plan it, appreciate it so able to

comment on what they see. Trained School Council!20:48:07 LPerformance

Has anyone had to give criticism (constructive) to anolder more experienced teacher? Awkward. #ukedchat

20:47:44 cherrylkd @nickotkdV Brilliant. Even better! #ukedchat

20:47:25 ICTmagic@ClareBrunet It is sad that the children feel it is areflection of them & the community. Children shouldbe unburdened to learn. #ukedchat

20:47:23 MrsPTaylor@ICTmagic ...changing goal posts, it's difficult to knowwhen to be proud these days! Though the kids let us

know #ukedchat20:47:16 MissDCox

#ukedchat observations and/or learning walks withnothing in between to support, develop and focus staffare totally pointless

20:46:52 urban_teacherAs long as the observer is genuine & the observedperson is open 2 take constructive criticism then truedevelopment takes place #ukedchat

20:46:46 PhilPfromSC#UKEDchat Benefits of project-based learning; teacherscollaborate - plan, deliver, review. Meaningful,

professional, beyond comfort zones20:46:34 day_tom

@MrsPTaylor @ICTmagic Bad experiences - not gettingfeedback, too negative etc. If attitude of fear around obsthen understandable #ukedchat

20:46:28 Toryedumacation@ICTmagic @MrsPTaylor SET should be seen once aterm at mist from afar. Know your place. #ukedchat

20:46:12 LPerformanceThought so. I'm not sure if this would work in sec as kidshave different relations with parents by then?@Kezmerrelda @day_tom #ukedchat

20:45:41 LornaMonroe

RT @TeacherToolkit: #ukedchat What makes a goodobservation for observer/observed?Try this:Formal Observation template #Ofsted criteriahttp://t.co/OUTucGBgfZ

20:45:34 rpwillanObservations help, but best way to improve is plantogether, teach, evaluate/improve, then teach again. Obsassesses delivery only #ukedchat

20:45:30 ExploreGeogCould learning walks maintain standards rather thanobservations offering only a snapshot of meticulously

planned lessons? #Ukedchat

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20:45:20 ICTmagic@MrsPTaylor I think that depends on the culture of theschool. If SMT are seen as a critical friend it is not aproblem. #ukedchat

20:45:16 Toryedumacation

@MrsPTaylor @ICTmagic Because they are awful at

their job. Majority of Teachers fit this description.#ukedchat

20:44:59 LPerformanceFab! Keep up the good work! I do like the idea to engage& involve parents. Is this primary? @Kezmerrelda#ukedchat

20:44:54 Kezmerrelda@day_tom @lperformance primary each year groupdoes it on a different day #ukedchat

20:44:26 Kezmerrelda@HoDTeacher @mrpeel to be honest it's ok and mostparents are very positive. I usually get them doing

something active too! #ukedchat20:44:23 CharHarAgain

@brownh1971 @wallythebus Too risky to implementacross board then? How about authentic collab on ameaningful project. #ukedchat

20:44:20 cherrylkd @nickotkdV #ukedchat it's best that way I think.

20:43:53 PhilPfromSC#ukedchat I like when learners understand learning, canplan it, appreciate it so able to comment on what theysee. Trained School Council!

20:43:47 PSHEsolutionsRT @oldandrewuk: #ukedchat My thoughts on lesson

observations are here: http://t.co/FOnY5AysBJ20:43:34 Kezmerrelda

@LPerformance it's more about them being involved inlearning and knowing how a school day works. Not hadany negatives b4. Yet. #ukedchat

20:43:19 MrsPTaylor@ICTmagic it is for this very reason that I cannotunderstand why some people refuse to have an opendoor. Why are they afraid? #ukedchat

20:43:02 day_tom@LPerformance @Kezmerrelda Is this primary orsecondary? It sounds an interesting #ukedchat

20:42:50 reesh_kateRT @Toryedumacation: @ProfTentacles@andrewwarnerkms Pupils must progress according todata. This is the basis of good education. #ukedchat

20:42:45 CharHarAgain@HoDTeacher I would like to try it but feel genuinecollaboration on an authentic project not for sake of obswould be better #ukedchat

20:42:24 cherrylkdIf PRP is to be based on observations there is a need toavoid favouritism. Have SIP observe too or colleaguefrom other school #ukedchat

20:41:39 Toryedumacation @ImSporticus @HYWEL_ROBERTS @TeacherToolkit@ukedchat Or destroying the observed? Equally useful.

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#ukedchat

20:41:24 PhilPfromSC#ukedchat Best model - Coaching, when coachee setsobjectives, owns process. Coach analyses, feeds backusing shared 'common demoninators'

20:40:46 HoDTeacher @Toryedumacation @Kezmerrelda constructive as ever#ukedchat

20:40:38 katiehall1979RT @Toryedumacation: #ukedchat Lesson Obs shouldtake place with no notice by someone who doesn't knowstudents or subject and has been to Eton.

20:40:14 HoDTeacher@mrpeel @Kezmerrelda Putting this to my Headtomorrow! I wonder who will volunteer! #ukedchat

20:40:13 LPerformanceI haven't heard of this. Good way of engaging parentsbut are the qualified to judge? Goes back to being

subjective @Kezmerrelda #ukedchat20:40:04 ICTmagic

I am observed 5 days a week by 34 of the most critical,yet forgiving observers. It is their opinion/advice that Iprize the most. #ukedchat

20:39:48 mrpeel@Toryedumacation @Kezmerrelda #ukedchat I have ahuge cupboard...

20:39:15 Toryedumacation@Kezmerrelda Why not get them to teach and open upa free school in a cupboard? #ukedchat

20:39:11 MystikaRT @russeltarr: An interesting #infographic of learning

theories #ukedchat http://t.co/g4RN48E8oI20:39:04 DP40days

RT @Toryedumacation: #ukedchat Lesson Obs shouldtake place with no notice by someone who doesn't knowstudents or subject and has been to Eton.

20:38:59 mrpeel @Kezmerrelda #ukedchat - I like the idea though...

20:38:52 CharHarAgain@wallythebus @Kezmerrelda I agree but not sure peerto peer is best way to deliver honest, critical feedback inreal world situs #ukedchat

20:38:34 LMasterEdDRT @tesResources: This classroom display helpsstudents think about responsible use of social media#ukedchat http://t.co/aWTOrb54v3

20:38:34 Kezmerrelda@mrpeel not normally - they do leave feedback sheetsbut are general. It's a bit daunting though! #ukedchat

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20:38:02 mrpeel @piersyoung #ukedchat ideally so. But if PM and PRPare to be based on observation they will only get more

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adversarial if we arent careful

20:38:01 NaomiKenyonRT @tesResources: This classroom display helpsstudents think about responsible use of social media#ukedchat http://t.co/aWTOrb54v3

20:37:44 NaomiKenyon RT @MrACalvert: #ukedchat remember there isn't ateacher on the planet that hasn't had outstanding, good,bad and very ugly lessons in their career.

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4.Evidence based20:37:09 piersyoung

I try to avoid thinking of observations as judgements.Have often asked colleagues to come and watch them topick up ideas #ukedchat

20:37:06 louiseg1325RT @piersyoung: Most helpful obs I have had are whenI ask observer beforehand to look at one specific thing,not "the lesson" #ukedchat

20:36:55 Toryedumacation@mikallaane We can't find any satisfactory teachers atthe moment. #ukedchat

20:36:46 HoDTeacher@CharHarAgain Yes, very useful,avoids the impressionthat observer is trying to 'catch out' observe.Can suggestsmall improvements #ukedchat

20:36:43 CharHarAgain@Kezmerrelda Absolutely, think that's best way..take offpressure of giving full on feedback and just informallywatch and chat! #ukedchat

20:36:25 ExploreGeogShould the observer set learning objectives to challengethe teacher? #Ukedchat

20:36:24 truan_steveObservations vital part of teacher being a learner &continually evolving. Must b marketed &implemented as positive experience #ukedchat

20:36:19 mrpeel@Kezmerrelda sounds interesting - do they influencePM? #ukedchat

20:36:07 LPerformanceAgreed @wallythebus @HoDTeacher Can lead toteachers trying to please the observer rather thanconcentrating on teaching students #ukedchat

20:36:04 DaveAAldridgeRT @thought_weavers: #ukedchat using ofsted stylegrades is unhelpful, reinforces game playing. Purpose ofobs is to improve learning for pupils.

20:36:01 Fabteachertips @ukedchat #ukedchat feeling like its not wrong that

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there's an observer in the room - Both open and reactiveto lesson in positive manner!

20:35:52 DaveAAldridgeRT @thought_weavers: #ukedchat lets get it right, they rnot lesson observations, focus shud b learning.If learning

is poor,feedback=investigate why #coaching

20:35:51 CharHarAgain@wallythebus @Kezmerrelda Agreed. Tricky if you feelthey have poor control or are dull but they have 10 yearsmore exp than you. #ukedchat

20:35:48 Kezmerrelda#ukedchat have another parents invited in to observemorning in couple weeks. Usually get around 10-15parents in. Do others do this?

20:35:39 wallythebusAll this makes me realise how reflective teachers areafter EVERY day #ukedchat

20:35:02 Fabteachertips @ukedchat #ukedchat focus on 1 main thing!! Alwayskey! But shared feedback, asking observe's opinion firstand build on!

20:35:01 HoDTeacher@LPerformance obsr gets quick summary of plan,perhaps using 5MinPlan, works on some areas andagrees focus and criteria for obs. #ukedchat

20:34:42 ictacrossschoolRT @Veidey: #ukedchat encourage more staff to peerobs each other, developing each others' T&L, makeobs the norm and part of CPD

20:34:38 EP3577 @Veidey #ukedchat Absolutely, led an Inset last night,introducing triads across the primary phases and basedon supportive working!

20:34:16 Kezmerrelda@CharHarAgain I should imagine it helps just to observeothers. I reflected a lot on own practise when observingnqt #ukedchat

20:34:09 CharHarAgain@HoDTeacher Not sure about joint planning althoughdon't know much about it. Involves observer in yourprocess? #ukedchat

20:34:00 LPerformanceRT @MrACalvert: #ukedchat remember there isn't ateacher on the planet that hasn't had outstanding, good,bad and very ugly lessons in their career.

20:33:57 wallythebus@HoDTeacher Can lead to lesson being too'staged' andtherefore not informative as to strenghts etc #ukedchat

20:33:27 mrpeel@MrACalvert #ukedchat career - more likely a week oreven a day

20:33:14 kathleenkelly67RT @tesResources: This classroom display helpsstudents think about responsible use of social media#ukedchat http://t.co/aWTOrb54v3

20:33:07 mikallaane #ukedchat Every child deserves good to outstanding

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learning, does this start with good to outstandingteachers? Discuss

20:33:00 MrACalvert#ukedchat remember there isn't a teacher on the planetthat hasn't had outstanding, good, bad and very ugly

lessons in their career.

20:32:56 ukedchat#UKedchat are discussing 'What makes a goodobservation for observer and observed?' Come and joinin!

20:32:34 MWimpennyS@ukedchat get involved don't just sit in the cornerscribbling on clipboard or tapping observation notes onan iPad #ukedchat

20:32:33 LPerformanceDo you mean planning the lesson together or it'sobjectives? @HoDTeacher #ukedchat

20:32:31 HoDTeacher before, during, after: joint planning, objectiveobservation, focused feedback thoughts? #ukedchat

20:32:28 caryghart#ukedchat when the observer participates as a studentand engages the kids so that they feel comfortable.

20:32:18 Toryedumacation#ukedchat Lesson Obs should take place with no noticeby someone who doesn't know students or subject andhas been to Eton.

20:32:03 CharHarAgain@Kezmerrelda We have and it's great if kept light touchand informal but have to say I found it hard to be 100%

honest about negs #ukedchat20:31:51 asquires_ @HoDTeacher #ukedchat oh I like this idea

20:31:25 MrACalvertRT @Veidey: #ukedchat encourage more staff to peerobs each other, developing each others' T&L, makeobs the norm and part of CPD

20:31:23 HoDTeacher Great discussion tonight #ukedchat

20:31:23 ICTmagic@SimonWhitehall I agree completely for performancemanagement observations. Good knowledge of theclass/year/curriculum is needed. #ukedchat

20:31:02 brownh1971#ukedchat Joint lesson observations with anexperienced observer and less experienced colleaguehelp to deconstruct good practice

20:30:57 Toryedumacation@ProfTentacles @andrewwarnerkms Pupils mustprogress according to data. This is the basis of goodeducation. #ukedchat

20:30:56 Super_Work.@thought_weavers And anyway, what's wrong with anobserver being humble?? #ukedchat

20:30:39 LPerformanceThank goodness! It would be crazy to cram in studentprogress in 50 mins. These things take time.@MissDCox @Kezmerrelda #ukedchat

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20:30:19 SparkyTeachingHere's the link... Hook your class into some real-lifemaths >> http://t.co/r6U9vitngb #ukedchat#mathchat

20:30:16 web20education

Blog post:Top 10 #startup tools/projects from #microsoft

research, maybe you don't know http://t.co/QEGYY5Uajn#edchat #elearning #ukedchat

20:30:14 DrCPDRT @tesResources: This classroom display helpsstudents think about responsible use of social media#ukedchat http://t.co/aWTOrb54v3

20:30:01 tmeekyRT @MindShiftKQED: Why programming teaches somuch more than technical skills http://t.co/KaZHijTyxO> interesting #ukedchat

20:30:00 Veidey

#ukedchat encourage more staff to peer obs each other,

developing each others' T&L, make obs the normand part of CPD

20:29:48 urban_teacherLesson Obs: Have plenty of short/snappy activities withsmooth transitions. Have at least one group activitywhich is levelled #ukedchat

20:29:24 GeekPeter

RT @SparkyTeaching: Fancy some Summer Terminvestigational work? (one condition: you need to getsome catchphrases) #ukedchat #mathchathttp://t.co/2TwkbNY2p6

20:29:19 kayedog30@day_tom Agreed - but shouldn't be part of a judgementprocess. #ukedchat

20:29:16 wallythebus @Toryedumacation @thechrissyt ;) #ukedchat

20:29:14 mikallaaneRT @DavidMcQueen: Love the gems coming out of#ukedchat. Only sad thing is teachers not on Twitter whomiss out on them and the mutual benefit.

20:28:57 binarygenius

My presentation on the use of@wordpressdotcom+@Screenr for assessment atTuesday's @HertsCam event:http://t.co/TnOvJ8v6rY#edtech #ukedchat

20:28:55 ProfTentaclesAccept that learning happens at different paces fordifferent students. Drop nonsensical drive for 'progress'@andrewwarnerkms #ukedchat

20:28:51 MissDCox@Kezmerrelda @LPerformance #ukedchat no it isprogress over time for EVERY ofsted inspector!

20:28:43 KateRowlands5@CharHarAgain @LPerformance #ukedchat. not quite.Most feel like grading is time to perform & triads istime to take risks and try newstuff

20:28:43 HYWEL_ROBERTS @ukedchat don't allow yourself to be fedback to in the

queue to Nemesis at Alton Towers. #ithappenedtome

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#ukedchat

20:28:41 Kezmerrelda#ukedchat we have been asked to observe each otherteacher to teacher. Think this may work quite well? Hasanyone else done this? #ukedchat

20:28:38 SparkyTeaching Fancy some Summer Term investigational work? (onecondition: you need to get some catchphrases)#ukedchat #mathchat http://t.co/2TwkbNY2p6

20:28:38 Toryedumacation@MohammedSidat They need 3 points. End of.#ukedchat

20:28:20 TeacherToolkit@thechrissyt: @ICTmagic well said. #ukedchat

Well said indeed!

20:28:13 HoDTeacherPre-empt any problems 1/2 know what you are looking

for, agree focus #ukedchat 2/220:28:08 LPerformance

Holy Moly. I better get my planning guides out...*Frantically scrambles around in panic* @TeacherToolkit@HoDTeacher #ukedchat

20:28:03 HoDTeacherFor me, the pre-obs Joint Planning session is just asimportant as feedback. It has revolutionised my obs asHoD. #ukedchat

20:27:57 wallythebus@SimonWhitehall #ukedchat We have found this to be apositive approach, but has needed close work. Need to

trust the observers 4 it to work20:27:49 truan_steve

Not interested in one off shows Regular learning walksmore useful & build trust All hierarchy removed& team welcome in my room #ukedchat

20:27:44 EP3577RT @DavidMcQueen: Love the gems coming out of#ukedchat. Only sad thing is teachers not on Twitter whomiss out on them and the mutual benefit.

20:27:44 Toryedumacation@thechrissyt @wallythebus They don't work. Look at thecoalition. #ukedchat

20:27:41 spoonymooseGoing to start reading The Owl Who Was Afraid of theDark for our Literacy topic next term... They'll love it!#ukedchat #literacy

20:27:40 MohammedSidatObservers don't always need to fill the 3 points forimprovement. Some excellent lessons only need 1 or 2points for improvement #ukedchat

20:27:38 ICTmagic@SimonWhitehall Depends what they are observing for.I often have inexperienced teachers watching me to get'tips of the trade'. #ukedchat

20:27:36 asquires_

I need to have respect for the person observing me#ukedchat

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20:27:29 ProfTentacles .@andrewwarnerkms amen to that, Brother. #ukedchat

20:27:19 TeacherToolkitRT @piersyoung: Most helpful obs I have had are whenI ask observer beforehand to look at one specific thing,not "the lesson" #ukedchat

20:27:13 ruthieuk22 RT @tesResources: This classroom display helpsstudents think about responsible use of social media#ukedchat http://t.co/aWTOrb54v3

20:27:12 wallythebus@thechrissyt #ukedchat Sometimes there can be a mis-match, so that can require a conversation.

20:27:11 Kezmerrelda@LPerformance @missdcox does it depend oninspector? Haven't been involved with ofsted since 2008so out of practise!! #ukedchat

20:26:59 LPerformanceHas personal relationships got anything to do with

observations? Favouritism and all that.? #ukedchat20:26:41 Super_Work

'So, how was it for YOU, darling??' 'Oh fuck off you prat,I've done this loads more times than you.' #ukedchat

20:26:37 brandbillieSula, @sassysula you should follow this hashtag hun xRT @DavidMcQueen: Love the gems coming out of#ukedchat."

20:26:27 KateRowlands5 @piersyoung #ukedchat Totally agree

20:26:21 CharHarAgain@KateRowlands5 @LPerformance Means everyonegets Grade 1s? Is that what you're saying? #ukedchat

20:26:19 taralatkinson #ukedchat Observer elicits evaluation from observee,rather than immediately identifying positives/negatives.Collaborative feedback.

20:26:12 Denbigh_TSART @TeacherToolkit: And finally, create a culture of#OpenClassroom across the school with a simple door-sign #ukedchat http://t.co/N3fIVTabLo

20:26:11 SimonWhitehall@ICTmagic Absolutely. Having an observer with nounderstanding of your year group/key stage is insulting#ukedchat

20:25:59 TeacherToolkit

@LPerformance @HoDTeacher

They always have!Threshold? #ukedchat

20:25:57 Kezmerrelda @mrpeel that sounds better put like that #ukedchat20:25:51 Toryedumacation @DavidMcQueen Teachers are lazy. #ukedchat

20:25:49 LPerformanceAh I see. @KateRowlands5 @CharHarAgain Which onedo you prefer & get the most benefit from?#ukedchat

20:25:40 enrich_ed Huge potential for using social media in teaching. Hereare some ideas http://t.co/dYPVMcsQa1 @EFAReport

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@WISE_Tweets #edchat #ukedchat

20:25:40 HoDTeacher@DavidMcQueen You can always go to the archive andsummary on http://t.co/gniwtLDvQn #ukedchat :-)

20:25:22 Super_Work

.@thought_weavers Well how about, 'I thought the

lesson was XYZ, but please do put me into context, aswe're all learners here?' #ukedchat20:25:13 thechrissyt @ICTmagic well said. #ukedchat

20:25:07 piersyoungMost helpful obs I have had are when I ask observerbeforehand to look at one specific thing, not "the lesson"#ukedchat

20:25:04 Denbigh_TSART @brownh1971: #ukedchat Important that outstandingteachers are observed as models of good practice. 2way process.

20:24:56 ExploreGeog @MohammedSidat I agree the observer needs to set alimited amount of realistic targets to focus futureimprovement #Ukedchat

20:24:53 LPerformanceRT @DavidMcQueen: Love the gems coming out of#ukedchat. Only sad thing is teachers not on Twitter whomiss out on them and the mutual benefit.

20:24:52 Toryedumacation@urban_teacher Students should not speak in lessons.#ukedchat

20:24:46 day_tom@CharHarAgain #ukedchat - Yes mainly commented on,

but sometimes contradictory - can feel like one obs saysone thing and then one says diff

20:24:44 CharHarAgain@brownh1971 Time rarely made for this even though itwould possibly be more benficial for teachers than beingobserved themselves #ukedchat

20:24:31 thechrissyt@wallythebus I think collaborative partnerships can workwell if everyone has the same objective and goals inmind.Your thoughts? #ukedchat

20:24:29 tmeekyThe process of peer review isn't bad, it's the way it'sperceived which is the problem #ukedchat#paranoidteachers

20:23:57 magicalmaths

RT @librarybgs: @magicalmaths: WhyMathematicians are dangerous and should be lockedup? http://t.co/TPNKGC7iI5 #pgce #ukedchat#edchat @MathsBGS

20:23:50 DavidMcQueenLove the gems coming out of #ukedchat. Only sad thingis teachers not on Twitter who miss out on them and themutual benefit.

20:23:49 ICTmagic It's important that the observed trusts the observer,values their opinion & knows that it'll help with

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professional development. #ukedchat

20:23:40 web20education#emaze http://t.co/UiAUMNvQu7 #startup #elearning#html5 tool create amazing presentations #edtech20#pln #edchat #ukedchat #ntchat #cpchat

20:23:37 urban_teacher Getting students to take an active role whether big orsmall always look good on the eye! #ukedchat20:23:34 LPerformance Ha! @Toryedumacation #ukedchat20:23:25 HYWEL_ROBERTS @ukedchat ....whilst observed has a brew! #ukedchat

20:23:19 wallythebusWhat are yourthoughts on weekly drop ins and workingwith the teacher, rather than observing? #ukedchat

20:23:19 CharHarAgain@day_tom Is it commented on and part of thediscussion? Mine is but I know many prep paperworkmadly for a cursory glance #ukedchat

20:23:14 tmeeky 'Can I take part supporting/facilitating in a lesson alongside you and feeding back' is better than 'I'm coming toobserve' #ukedchat

20:23:08 MikeFoster54@ukedchat an unplanned walk in observation- gives atrue impression of the day to day teaching-not somethingplanned for weeks. #ukedchat

20:22:55 mrpeel@Super_Work #ukedchat it's better than "nice tie".Then you really know you're in trouble.

20:22:53 brownh1971#ukedchat Important that outstanding teachers are

observed as models of good practice. 2 way process.20:22:49 asquires_

@CharHarAgain @mregan63 #ukedchat yes I guess It'sthe dialogue that is key

20:22:20 LPerformanceIn a sick, twisted liberal way I actually enjoy yourtweets :) @Toryedumacation @day_tom #ukedchat

20:22:16 CharHarAgain@KateRowlands5 @LPerformance Do both what?Formal and supportive? #ukedchat

20:22:11 day_tom@CharHarAgain Planning - which is half termly plan,data on students and any resources needed. No lessonplan as we do halftermly #ukedchat

20:22:08 Super_Work'So! How do YOU think it went??' Can we get rid of thisridiculous 'ice-breaker,' please?? It's worse than a badchat-up line. #ukedchat

20:21:55 mrpeel#ukedchat all observers should remember that there isalways more than one way to approach anything. Stopbeing too didactic... dialogue!

20:21:47 MohammedSidatSome observers always have to put 3points onimprovement. At times they put anything down to fill thegap. #ukedchat

20:21:25 piersyoung #ukedchat really like the idea of @IRIS_Connect .

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Having an observer in room so often seems to changeatmosphere + so bias observations

20:21:16 KateRowlands5@LPerformance @CharHarAgain @oldandrewuk#ukedchat Can't you do both but separate the 2?

20:21:09 Toryedumacation @LPerformance Good idea. We'll inform Michael.#ukedchat

20:21:07 SparkyTeachingLord Sugar's hunt for a decent metaphor continues...#ukedchat #engchat >> http://t.co/pp6TD4TFWh

20:20:57 HYWEL_ROBERTS @wallythebus @ukedchat absolutely #ukedchat

20:20:55 librarybgs

@magicalmaths: Why Mathematicians aredangerous and should be locked up?http://t.co/TPNKGC7iI5 #pgce #ukedchat#edchat @MathsBGS

20:20:54 CharHarAgain @asquires_ @mregan63 Should be drawn out throughdiscussion. Observer comment; Observee response.Avoid the pointless squirming #ukedchat

20:20:50 mikallaane@MohammedSidat @asquires_ @JamesJMatthews isthis reciprocated with the observee? #ukedchat

20:20:31 LPerformance Amen to that! @mikallaane #ukedchat20:19:52 SimonWhitehall @HoDTeacher http://t.co/xw4F0JkFrT #ukedchat

20:19:48 Toryedumacation@Veidey This is the OPPOSITE of what meaningful obsshould be. Ominous and painful. #ukedchat

20:19:44 CharHarAgain What paperwork are people expected to hand over foran in-house observation? How much of it gets looked atand/or commented on? #ukedchat

20:19:32 mrpeel

#ukedchat http://t.co/PImO5dUiEv on OFSTED swiftprogress in a lesson myth. I heard from Willshaw'smouth

8:18pm 23 May 13 TweetDeck20:19:27 KateRowlands5 @LPerformance @HoDTeacher #ukedchat YES

20:19:13 MWimpennyS@ukedchat Good observation skills need training.#ukedchat

20:19:10 mikallaane@LPerformance most probably, that's the way MichaelGove wants it. Shame government doesn't do it for MPs#ukedchat

20:19:04 ssgill76RT @TeacherToolkit: And finally, create a culture of#OpenClassroom across the school with a simple door-sign #ukedchat http://t.co/N3fIVTabLo

20:19:00 asquires_@mregan63 #ukedchat I do think its useful to get theobservees view on heir lesson, just how to get it with outbeing patronising

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20:18:46 TeacherToolkitAnd finally, create a culture of #OpenClassroom acrossthe school with a simple door-sign #ukedchathttp://t.co/N3fIVTabLo

20:18:41 MohammedSidat

@ClareBrunet I've done a video lesson in the past and it

works really well. the teacher feels confident in me notbeing there. #ukedchat

20:18:39 LPerformanceAh. An inspector with common sense!! @MissDCox@Kezmerrelda #ukedchat

20:18:21 CharHarAgain@thechrissyt So do I - then Ifind myself prepping a good60% more than for a typical lesson. Fail to prep;prep tofail mentality #ukedchat

20:18:20 HoDTeacherRT @LPerformance: Will observations eventually beused for performance pay?! #ukedchat

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20:17:43 TeacherToolkitOr try this informal Learning Walk template forobservations; maybe even use no paper! #ukedchathttp://t.co/d2Oe2RDyf9

20:17:42 VeideyCoaching, encourage developmental obs, encouragerisks, encourage open door, makes the necessity of PMobs more meaningful #ukedchat

20:17:25 HoDTeacher @Super_Work Ha ha ha #ukedchat

20:17:23 KateRowlands5@ukedchat #ukedchat. Triads which plan together, obs& feedback worked well for me.

20:17:19 mregan63#ukedchat.OfstedJudgements are too limiting. Don't ask"how did you feel it went" It can humiliate if woefullyinaccurate

20:17:00 asquires_

@Toryedumacation @MohammedSidat@JamesJMatthews that would require someone at theDOfE knowing something about the classroom#ukedchat

20:16:57 LPerformanceWill observations eventually be used for performancepay?! #ukedchat

20:16:48 HoDTeacher @SimonWhitehall Do you have a link? #ukedchat

20:16:47 tmeekyBe positive, assertive, confident... they are entering yourdomain #ukedchat

20:16:45 Toryedumacation@kayedog30 Why not? What are you scared of?#Ukedchat

20:16:45 TeacherToolkit #ukedchat What makes a good observation for

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observer/observed?Try this:Formal Observation template #Ofsted criteriahttp://t.co/OUTucGBgfZ

20:16:39 day_tom @kayedog30 #ukedchat agree - although askingstudents opinions on your lessons can be really helpful.

20:16:34 KateRowlands5@ukedchat #ukedchat live lesson obs questions makeyou discuss with observer what's happening. Makes itfeel like you've explained yourself

20:16:29 MissDCox@Kezmerrelda #ukedchat was with an inspector thisweek. She said its utter nonsense!

20:16:19 mrpeel@Kezmerrelda #ukedchat except that this is not whatWillshaw said... progress is swift and sustained over

time. Many SLT have erred here20:16:19 tmeeky

Insist observer sees full lesson. I did this rec with Ofsted.Didn't want 10 minute snapshot. #ukedchat

20:16:17 Super_WorkObservers are just part of the audience. Put on a show.They have to put their pants on one leg at a time everymorning too. #ukedchat

20:16:14 thechrissyt@HoDTeacher Yes - especially if you want to act uponspecific things...most impact when feedback is efficient.#ukedchat

20:15:58 HoDTeacher @day_tom A challenge for you: we need the answerbefore 9! #ukedchat

20:15:39 SimonWhitehallNUT guidance on observations is really useful if caughtin an unhelpful situation #ukedchat

20:15:32 thought_weavers#ukedchat lets get it right, they r not lesson observations,focus shud b learning.If learning ispoor,feedback=investigate why #coaching

20:15:14 kayedog30#ukedchat They definitely shouldn't be carried out bypupils. *Shudder*

20:15:11 Kezmerrelda#ukedchat am worried by ofsted criteria that every childneeds to make progress every second of the lesson.Should I be?

20:15:07 MWimpennyS@ukedchat observation needs feedback very soon afterthe event otherwise it can be lost moment. #ukedchat

20:15:04 thechrissytI don't feel orchestrating for an observation is right - I feelyou should demonstrate a 'typical' lesson to reflect onyourself. #ukedchat

20:14:53 day_tom@HoDTeacher I was thinking about an alternative word.Not sure - something around learning to learn orreflection on teaching? #ukedchat

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20:14:38 ClareBrunetHow about video lessons and jointly work together(observer/observee) on feedback? #ukedchat

20:14:31 HoDTeacher@jogyouon Surely the feedback has to be same day? Orat the very least, next day. Thoughts? #ukedchat

20:14:30 MohammedSidat RT @mrpeel: #ukedchat trust the teacher - they knowthe class that you are watching for 20 minutes...

20:14:30 HuntingEnglish@HYWEL_ROBERTS you're right, more targeted. I amguilty of using that question though - in various forms!#guiltyascharged #ukedchat

20:14:20 tmeekyTeach the lesson, forget they are there. Have faith inyour abilities and keep everything in context and moveforwards +vely #ukedchat

20:14:07 magicalmaths

Why Mathematicians are dangerous and should be

locked up? http://t.co/jy3ghgwQUT #pgce #ukedchat#edchat

20:14:06 magicalmathsHow do I deal with emergency cover lessons?http://t.co/5bUSLohAEh #pgce #ukedchat #edchat

20:14:06 truan_steveCoaching trios across diff depts proving fantastic use ofobservation time Sharing of expertise teaching styles& resources= fab #ukedchat

20:14:03 asquires_ Not sure that an overall judgment is useful #ukedchat

20:14:02 mrpeel@HuntingEnglish @oldandrewuk #ukedchat is that the

one theat got Mr Gove so interested?20:13:42 stbirwin

@jogyouon I'm awful insist I have feedback that day orit's pointless. Completley agree #ukedchat

20:13:40 JamesJMatthewsIf being observed, or observing, consider these fivethings: 1. Children 2. Children 3. Children 4. Children 5.Children #ukedchat

20:13:34 mregan63RT @thought_weavers: #ukedchat using ofsted stylegrades is unhelpful, reinforces game playing. Purpose ofobs is to improve learning for pupils.

20:13:28 andrewwarnerkms#ukedchat be open to the fact that every child is totallyengrossed in their work and don't knock the teacher for it@ProfTentacles

20:13:22 HuntingEnglish@oldandrewuk I think you wrote about how greatOFSTED observations were for developing bestpedagogy practice & teachers! #ukedchat

20:13:20 CharHarAgain@HYWEL_ROBERTS True! Also, if you answer "it wasgreat" you seem arrogant if you lead with negatives youseem under confident #ukedchat

20:13:20 fod3 RT @TeacherToolkit: @ukedchat #ukedchat Whatmakes a good observation for observer/observed?

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4.Evidence based20:13:18 jogyouon

Best obs are when both parties get s/th from it. Thinklesson study is valuable. #ukedchat

20:13:18 thechrissyt@MohammedSidat I agree - as long as they are aconstructive process for all parties too. #ukedchat

20:12:55 urban_teacherPassion, Charisma, Flair and Progression in learning arealways good additions to an observation. #ukedchat

20:12:48 jogyouonHad an obs which took over a month to receive feedbackfor. Completely pointless exercise! #ukedchat

20:12:25 MohammedSidat Observations should be more frequent so teachers getuse to the idea of having another teacher in theclassroom. #ukedchat

20:12:16 ukedchatInterested in hosting a Thursday night #ukedchatsession? Contact @ukedchat or @ICTmagic for moredetails.

20:12:14 ChrisChivers2RT @Denbigh_TSA: #ukedchat Remove the personal.Comment of progress. Start feedback with "I noticed that....." Not "I think that ....." Very different

20:12:13 stbirwin Have a focus, and keep it tight you did this and as aresult the learning/children .... #ukedchat

20:12:02 thechrissyt@TeacherToolkit completely agree with supportive - thatis what all professionals should do for one another.#ukedchat

20:11:52 HoDTeacher @MissDCox couldn't agree more #ukedchat

20:11:47 mregan63


1.Agreed focus2.Supportive3.Non prescriptive4.Evidence based

20:11:43 TheValeRoyalTSRT @Denbigh_TSA: #ukedchat First establish whether itis an observation of development or for development -different focus, different emphasis

20:11:39 mrpeel#ukedchat trust the teacher - they know the class thatyou are watching for 20 minutes...

20:11:28 thechrissyt A good observation for all should have a teacher

knowing professionally that they are doing the very best

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for the whole class. #ukedchat

20:11:13 TeacherToolkit

@ukedchat #ukedchat What makes a good observationfor observer/observed?

1.Agreed focus2.Supportive3.Non prescriptive4.Evidence based

20:11:12 ClareBrunetRT @thought_weavers: #ukedchat using ofsted stylegrades is unhelpful, reinforces game playing. Purpose ofobs is to improve learning for pupils.

20:11:09 MWimpennyS@HoDTeacher I think that observations are really usefulbut they to be done in right way one that benefits both

parties. #ukedchat20:11:00 LPerformance

We are developing mental health workshops for studentsin schools. Drop me an email...to follow in a DM!@ProfTentacles #ukedchat

20:10:52 CharHarAgainRT @kayedog30: They should also happen morefrequently to make them less threatening and practicemore 'typical'. #ukedchat

20:10:47 MissDCox#ukedchat do people think you have to respect theobserver for the observation to be of any value? I do.

20:10:46 artevie203That I won't be 'judged' for exploring learning strategiesand that we are reflecting on and improving teaching#ukedchat #discussion

20:10:44 JamesJMatthewsThe observed should try to let the observer 'be'. Greatlessons wont need a commentary from you. #ukedchat

20:10:42 mrpeel#ukedchat 2/2 in the job is somehow by definiton better.Many new staff have radically interesting ideas that weold farts have not caught.

20:10:13 HYWEL_ROBERTS@ukedchat as observer, give yourself enough time to goaway and plan your feedback. Don't do it straight away -might be clumsy #ukedchat

20:10:04 gruntledlass#ukedchat Those observed need to feel safe within theprocess, which should be one of support andencouragement towards development

20:09:57 mrpeel#ukedchat remoe adversarial obs, encourage dialogueand reflection and remember tha tther eis no magic rulethat says that longer... 1/2

20:09:22 fod3wouldn't it be amazing to work in a school where youaren't graded, just given help with improving your

practice. #ukedchat

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20:09:08 oldandrewukThe trouble with posting old blogposts to #ukedchatwhen they're topical is that you can't always rememberwhat you actually wrote.

20:08:43 LPerformance

Totally agree. The focus is too much in results, putting

tons of stress on teachers & students. Great fordevelopment ! @day_tom #ukedchat

20:08:42 kayedog30'Down-up' as well as 'up-down'. We learn from eachother. Judgements (if used) also have to be standardisedusing peer obs. #ukedchat

20:08:40 HuntingEnglishClearly delineate a) observations for PD & b)developmental coaching obs. Do lots of b) therebymaking a) feel much easier. #ukedchat

20:08:39 MissDCox#ukedchat forget the praise sandwich. I'm not a child and

I know you're doing it! #pointless20:08:19 caroljallen

#ukedchat I once worked in totally open plan department6 teachers so constant observ, feedback, collabexcellent

20:08:10 ProfTentaclesstill looking for anyone who can recommend goodtraining for school staff in self-harm, preferably yorksbased. Pls help! #ukedchat #sltchat

20:08:06 HoDTeacher @day_tom Alternative? #ukedchat

20:07:48 Denbigh_TSA#ukedchat Remove the personal. Comment of progress.

Start feedback with "I noticed that ....." Not "I thinkthat ....." Very different

20:07:45 JamesJMatthewsConduct peer observations not always SLTobserving teachers #ukedchat

20:07:17 MoodleMcKeanRT @tesResources: This classroom display helpsstudents think about responsible use of social media#ukedchat http://t.co/aWTOrb54v3

20:07:11 caroljallenRT @kayedog30: They should also happen morefrequently to make them less threatening and practicemore 'typical'. #ukedchat

20:07:11 WestylishRT @kayedog30: They should also happen morefrequently to make them less threatening and practicemore 'typical'. #ukedchat

20:07:10 cwcomm1RT @oldandrewuk: #ukedchat My thoughts on lessonobservations are here: http://t.co/FOnY5AysBJ

20:07:10 perrin124RT @oldandrewuk: #ukedchat My thoughts on lessonobservations are here: http://t.co/FOnY5AysBJ

20:07:09 LPerformanceShame is become so formal & structured with focuson Ofsted. should be used more as a support &development tool. @oldandrewuk #ukedchat

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20:07:08 HYWEL_ROBERTS@ukedchat as observer, pls don't ask observee 'how doyou think it went?' Raises anxiety whilst they want toknow what YOU think #ukedchat

20:07:01 Super_Work#ukedchat Observers should learn to accept when

they're just plain fucking WRONG.

20:06:56 joe__kirby

RT @kevbartle: @oldandrewuk: #ukedchat Mythoughts on lesson observations are here:http://t.co/ZFJzm1AbTe >> Absolutely bang onthe money Mr. Old.

20:06:54 day_tom#ukedchat I think the word observation is a negative onethough due to OFSTED etc. Should be about learningfor both not just observing

20:06:45 thought_weavers

#ukedchat using ofsted style grades is unhelpful,

reinforces game playing. Purpose of obs is to improvelearning for pupils.

20:06:36 kevbartle@oldandrewuk: #ukedchat My thoughts on lessonobservations are here: http://t.co/ZFJzm1AbTe>> Absolutely bang on the money Mr. Old.

20:06:24 mrpeel@HoDTeacher #ukedchat no. but always try to questionto get at rationale and then encourage reflection on thepractice used...

20:06:19 MohammedSidat@asquires_ @JamesJMatthews second that. I likeobserving as i get ideas too. Kind of a reflection on myown teaching. #ukedchat

20:06:19 kayedog30They should also happen more frequently to make themless threatening and practice more 'typical'. #ukedchat

20:06:11 SheliBBDon't forget to come and join in #DLchat at 9pm after#ukedchat to share your digital leader news and views.Plz RT

20:05:58 Toryedumacation@HoDTeacher @mrpeel Find another Job? You are anenemy of promise works well. #ukedchat

20:05:56 LPerformanceGreat article. Agree that observations are subjective (likeart!) & that a checklist doesn't cut it. @oldandrewuk#ukedchat

20:05:32 asquires_@mrpeel #ukedchat yes, when observing always takecare not to compare it with how you would do it, teachersare as individual as the pupils

20:05:30 JC_235Enjoyable read RT @oldandrewuk: #ukedchat Mythoughts on lesson observations are here:http://t.co/ABXVIrCW1t

20:05:28 Denbigh_TSA #ukedchat First establish whether it is an observation of

development or for development - different focus,

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different emphasis

20:05:10 kayedog30Ideally there should be a focus to the observation,watching everything is no good for observer or observed.#ukedchat

20:05:02 mrpeel #ukedchat observation should not be adversarial, shouldbe reflective and diagnostic, not simply summative.

20:04:58 JamesJMatthewsRT @day_tom: #ukedchat Observations are great whenthey are about developing the skills of the teacher.When just about grades then just damaging

20:04:53 Toryedumacation@oldandrewuk We can all save ourselves an hour andread this. Guru. Hero. Legend. #ukedchat

20:04:45 wallythebus.@JamesJMatthews sometimes you need to talk to themto be able to assess progress #ukedchat

20:04:34 truan_steve Feedback must b honest and informative.no goodmaking brash judgement and then offer no constructiveadvice / suggestions #ukedchat

20:04:20 ChrisChivers2RT @wallythebus: #ukedchat The observed needs faithin the observer and the results of the process need tolead to development / support

20:03:58 Toryedumacation@LPerformance teachers need to feel downtrodden.#ukedchat

20:03:53 day_tom#ukedchat Observations are great when they are about

developing the skills of the teacher. When just aboutgrades then just damaging

20:03:34 JamesJMatthewsBe discreet listen to children but dont interfere#ukedchat

20:03:31 wallythebus#ukedchat The observed needs faith in the observer andthe results of the process need to lead to development /support

20:03:28 mrpeel#ukedchat most important part of observation is thefeedback - honest and constructive please and no "Iwouldn't have done..." I am not you.

20:03:26 HoDTeacher@asquires_ @JamesJMatthews As it should be: a twoway process! #ukedchat

20:03:06 MissDCox#ukedchat the outcome of an observation should 'benefit'the observed not the agenda of the observer

20:02:54 MWimpennySRT @tesResources: This classroom display helpsstudents think about responsible use of social media#ukedchat http://t.co/aWTOrb54v3

20:02:36 TeacherTweaksSimilies and metaphors taught using 'The Apprentice' RT@SparkyTeaching http://t.co/4TPrFnDcmD #ukedchat

20:02:33 mrpeel #ukedchat keeping half an eye on edmodo messages as

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stnts prepare for lit2 tomorrow - might be a bit semidetatched.

20:02:28 asquires_@JamesJMatthews agree completely with yourstatement. Observed a colleague today, I love observing

as it gives me so many ideas #ukedchat

20:02:03 LPerformanceHonest, positive, constructive criticism from the observerso the teacher can develop without feelingdowntrodden!! #ukedchat

20:01:49 HoDTeacherObserver should always ask the cdn about what theyrelearning not what theyre doing #ukedchat

20:01:16 truan_steveEngaged staff and students in unison makingpersonalised progress #ukedchat

20:01:06 oldandrewuk#ukedchat My thoughts on lesson observations are here:

http://t.co/FOnY5AysBJ20:00:22 ukedchat

Its 8pm. Time for #ukedchat with @HoDTeacher What makes a good observation for observer andobserved?

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