Archive Session 105

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ukedchat Archive 5 July 2012Hosted by @ICTEvangelist

How to make your students moreindependent and resilient?

20:00:03 ukedchatIt's 8pm. Time for #ukedchat @ICTEvangelist - How tomake your students more independent and resilient?'

20:00:44 Tech_Stories#ukedchat Why we should celebrate adversity &develop resilience... it has been the making of many

successful people http://t.co/7aw2Ztk320:01:19

ICTwitz@eslweb Mr #ukedchat ? The one who started it all offetc.? #ukedchat

20:01:22

MiltonSchwarz#ukedchat Resilience comes with risk... Bring backtree climbing!

20:01:25

ICTEvangelist#ukedchat how can we then, make our studentsindependent learners and more resilient?

20:01:48 ecarsontc@ukedchat @ICTEvangelist creation & imagination?#UKEdChat - just kicking off!

20:01:56 StuartMaginnis #ukedchat teach them the skills early and encouragethem to take risks.

20:02:04

hlmrmo@ICTEvangelist Give them the opportunity to try thingsand support them #ukedchat

20:02:04

Mat6453students need to learn how to fail, and embrace it#ukedchat

20:02:34

JOHNSAYERS#ukedchat my classroom strategy is L2L - 6Rs, Publiccritique (Ron Berger) solo taxonomy (solo helpboxes), Kagan collaboration.... (1)

20:02:45

StuartLock Do we want to make them independent and resilient?Has that argument been won already? #ukedchat

20:03:04 GwenelopeI think @LearningSpy quote he has in his classroom,'fail better' (truncated) is necessary. #ukedchat

20:03:08 ICTEvangelist How do we instil this though? @ecarsontc #UKEdChat

20:03:13 StuartLockWe have to learn, as teachers, to say "no" when askedfor help. #ukedchat

20:03:14 DidgeHResilience comes with a growth mindset - carol deckstyle #ukedchat

20:03:16 Sarahlheylearner choice over what they learn; allow them toexperience failure and reflect on that experience...g#ukedchat

20:03:23

ePaceonline#ukedchat I say this all the time....LET THEM MAKEMISTAKES AND LEARN FROM THEM.

20:03:34 LearningSpy@StuartLock Independence & resilience are justmeans to an end. We need to be clear what we wantthat end to be #ukedchat

20:03:41 MiltonSchwarz

#ukedchat So much of today's world is instant... Instant

on, instant gameplay, instant messaging... Doesresilience come with patience???
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20:03:49

hairlikeeddy@hlmrmo @ICTEvangelist Agreed. Give them theskills to focus on their strengths and conquer theirweaknesses #ukedchat

20:03:50 Debsgf

@ICTEvangelist need to promote a teaching

environment that recognises importance of takingrisks. learning is up and down curve #ukedchat

20:03:55 MichelleDhillonGive more responsibility - and not just to more able.One of our student editors got featured in Notts Post!#ukedchat http://t.co/BHBMHh3A

20:03:56 Monty_MathNo empty praise, no spoon feeding, emphasiseimportance of failure and bouncebackability #ukedchat

20:03:56 oldandrewuk#ukedchat If you educate students properly they willbecome cleverer. As a result they will be able to do

more stuff on their own.

20:04:10 PekabeloThink of failure as a natural part of effective learning.#ukedchat

20:04:12

Sarahlheyreflection through critique and opportunity to redraft,and redraft... #ukedchat

20:04:12

jamesmichieRT @StuartLock: We have to learn, as teachers, tosay "no" when asked for help. #ukedchat

20:04:17 ICTEvangelist@Gwenelope @LearningSpy the Samuel Becket quoteis good #UKEdChat

20:04:21

ecarsontc@StuartMaginnis yes - good response been workinglately on fear - its vital to have it, respect it andchallenge it appropriately #ukedchat

20:04:22

Mat6453#ukedchat So much of today's world is instant Instanton instant gameplay instant messaging Does resiliencecome with patience??? good point

20:04:22

tmeekyAs a parent and teacher I'd advocate Dweck's growthmindset theory http://t.co/ngVb3k4D #ukedchat

20:04:27 StuartLock

"RT @LearningSpy: Independence & resilience are

just means to an end. We need to be clear what wewant that end to be" Agree #ukedchat

20:04:42

ICTEvangelist@StuartLock less spoon, more food for thought?#UKEdChat

20:04:53 GeographyCarrieRT @jamesmichie: RT @StuartLock: We have tolearn, as teachers, to say "no" when asked for help.#ukedchat

20:04:55 oldandrewuk#ukedchat No doubt there are forms of resilience(which is not a well defined term) that result from being

cleverer.20:05:01 lizdudley #ukedchat key starting points is to build self


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confidence, help them to see that they can do it ontheir own & not be spoon fed

20:05:07 DidgeH Praise effort attitude approach #ukedchat

20:05:07 PauloSwift

#ukedchat Allowing students to make mistakes is 1

thing, having the right support mechanism in place toallow them to try again is another.

20:05:15 Mr_ChasRT @oldandrewuk: #ukedchat If you educate studentsproperly they will become cleverer. As a result they willbe able to do more stuff on their own.

20:05:21

dockers_hoopsModel thinking stages, welcome and model failing andshow how you learned from it Important that weshow pupils how to take risks #ukedchat

20:05:29 hlmrmo

@Mat6453 Resilience comes with patience for

something we want to be able to do perhaps?#ukedchat

20:05:43 Mat6453do we relate independence and resilience to the realworld with students? #ukedchat

20:05:44 Tech_Stories#ukedchat @StuartLock In this climate we have a dutyto make sure they are resilient!! http://t.co/ykrVYHej

20:05:47 oldandrewuk#ukedchat However, neither independence norresilience are reasonable aims of education & probablycan't even be taught.

20:05:53 ePaceonline @StuartLock #ukedchat, agreed, I think we are 'wired'as teachers to help and facilitate too much sometimes.

20:05:56 KDWScience@ICTEvangelist @stuartlock #ukedchat but wheredoes this start to be taught primary or secondary

20:05:56 Monty_Math@tmeeky I have her 'mindset' book sat on mybookshelf in front of me. Recommended read#ukedchat

20:06:02

jamesmichieRT @tmeeky: As a parent and teacher I'd advocateDweck's growth mindset theory http://t.co/F7LHNKZ6

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5mistakes is 1 thing, having the right supportmechanism in place to allow them to try again isanother.

20:06:32 jamesdhobsonuk

RT @Monty_Math: No empty praise, no spoon

feeding, emphasise importance of failure andbouncebackability #ukedchat

20:06:34 SarahlheyFocus on skill development not memorisation offacts #ukedchat

20:06:40 MrPHorner

RT @PauloSwift: #ukedchat Allowing students to makemistakes is 1 thing, having the right supportmechanism in place to allow them to try again isanother.

20:06:53 ICTEvangelist

@Mat6453: do we relate independence and resilience

to the real world with students? #ukedchat how dowe??

20:06:57 GeographyCarrieDirect students to where they can find answers butrefuse to tell them the answers #ukedchat

20:07:10 Mr_SJSNeed weight adding to my argument that buying digitalcameras is a waste of school money - iPodTouches/iPads are multi-purpose... #ukedchat

20:07:13 ecarsontcgrr. As usual keep forgetting to stick the #ukedchathashtag in - anyone use a client that does this

automatically?

20:07:14 jamesmichieJust presented at #TMTees12 on IL. Slides andspeaker notes can be found here: http://t.co/P7uXAciY


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great, but best effects happen when this becomes aculture or ethos #ukedchat

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oldandrewuk#ukedchat The "teaching" of generic skills and traits(independence, resilience, creativity and thinking skills)

is an excuse to dumb down.

20:08:15 MrsPrentice11RT @StuartLock: I don't think many teachers would bewilling to model embracing failure. #ukedchat

20:08:18 StuartMaginnis#ukedchat encourage a culture of peer support. Apassion for your subject engages them very quickly

20:08:25

JOHNSAYERS#ukedchat an enjoyable smiling / happy environment Ialways find makes the students more resilient (basics)

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MrAColley#ukedchat Be less helpful. Don't answer questionsimmediately. Build 'layers' of prob solving techniques

before teacher. The 4 Bs for ex

20:08:26

Monty_Math@StuartLock I think what's being advocated is notfailure but the ability to bounce back from failure /setbacks & not to fear it #ukedchat

20:08:31 LearningSpy@StuartLock Really? I model failure ALL the time#ukedchat

20:08:47 Tech_Stories#ukedchat @oldandrewuk I think they can and theyshould... student who focus longer on a problem will dobetter at tests...

20:08:48 lizdudley#ukedchat comment the other day suggested markingwork, not putting ticks on to show where they wereright, but getting them to work it out

20:08:50 GeographyCarrieEncourage independent learning by displaying it in theclassroom like my friend @UWHClaire #ukedchathttp://t.co/wAF93O61

20:08:55 StuartLockI think we learn from mistakes. I am not sure we learnfrom failure. They're different. #ukedchat

20:09:01 ecarsontc

#ukedchat - but its also about creating environments

where they want to engage and push themselvessurely

20:09:04

ePaceonline#ukedchat, in order to help with resilient learning lookat Guy Claxton's BLP. Teach them to know what to doif they don't know what to do.

20:09:11

Mat6453RT @Mat6453: @ICTEvangelist subject specificexamples where resilience has been the solution#ukedchat

20:09:1

2 Tech_Stories

#ukedchat @oldandrewuk ...having the discipline to

keep at something can be taught and createsresilience


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20:09:13

LearningSpy@Monty_Math Coping with failure is only part of it -learning from perceived failure is important too#ukedchat

20:09:24 Pekabelo

#ukedchat students show incredible resilience playing

pc games. This is about allowing students to sharpenskills each time they fail.

20:09:29

GeorgeEBlackRT @JOHNSAYERS: #ukedchat an enjoyablesmiling / happy environment I always find makes thestudents more resilient (basics)

20:09:33

ecarsontc@LearningSpy @StuartLock #ukedchat - nothing if nothonest... so important though

20:09:3

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jamesdhobsonukResilience+ independence have been eroded bylonger childhoods and parents being over-protective in

ways that stop learning. #ukedchat

20:09:47

GeographyCarrie@davidfawcett27 absolutely, couldn't agree more.Ideally needs to be part of whole school strategy#ukedchat

20:09:47

MrPHorner#ukedchat routines for questioning and especially for"anti-opt out" #ukedchat

20:09:48

GeorgeEBlackRT @LearningSpy: @Monty_Math Coping with failureis only part of it - learning from perceived failure isimportant too #ukedchat

20:09:49

oldandrewuk#ukedchat I described problems with independence asan aim here: http://t.co/3jKCCGA8 Resilience is hard tocritique as so poorly defined.

20:09:51

LearningSpyRT @StuartLock: I think we learn from mistakes. I amnot sure we learn from failure. They're different.#ukedchat I DO!

20:09:51

MrAColley@LearningSpy @Monty_Math As is dealing with fearof potential failure. #ukedchat

20:10:03 dockers_hoops

@ePaceonline found BLP really useful when trying to

encourage pupils to become more resilient. Modellingis crucial #ukedchat

20:10:08 MiltonSchwarz#ukedchat Children are now more acutely aware thatthey are 'levelled', judged, compared, analysed... Theeffect of this on some is FEAR!

20:10:12

largeramahttp://t.co/azWpyh8m - A blog post I wrote on spoonfeeding at A level #ukedchat

20:10:26

MissionExploreGive opportunities to explore, experiment and learnoutdoors by setting them open-ended and experiential

challenges (


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2watch them grow, become more motivated and WANTto do more work themselves #ukedchat

20:10:33 Michael_Merrick

RT @oldandrewuk: #ukedchat The "teaching" ofgeneric skills and traits (independence, resilience,

creativity and thinking skills) is an excuse to dumbdown.

20:10:35 StuartLock@jamesdhobsonuk Isn't contemporary discourseflooded with how much shorter a childhood is?#ukedchat

20:10:43 StuartLock @LearningSpy Please expand. #ukedchat

20:10:49

GeorgeEBlack#ukedchat getting them to teach something when theyknow it better than you seems to work well. E.g...

20:10:54 creatortim

Independence only possible if a clear shared learning

journey is in place with the learner - #ukedchat

20:10:57 Mat6453in sport the examples of failure leading to success areeverywhere? very few get it right every time.#ukedchat

20:10:58 ePaceonline@MiltonSchwarz #ukedchat you have to be resilient ifthe instant stuff doesn't work for you!! Knowing how tosolve problems very important.

20:11:08 sfrench21It's difficult for a teacher to stand back & watchstudents struggle/make mistakes, but is worth it if can

hold yourself back #ukedchat

20:11:20

ecarsontc@LearningSpy @StuartLock #ukedchat - we learn a lotfrom failure but it is more about the nature of ourselvesthan academic stuff

20:11:27

jamesdhobsonukBehaviour of children on work experience changing;phoning mummy to take them home if a cafe makesthem wash up. #ukedchat

20:11:30 jamesmichie@jamesdhobsonuk @oldandrewuk Disagree, there r awide range of skills tht r needed 2 bcome independent

learner which can b taught #ukedchat20:11:37 StuartLock

If we're going to model learning from 'failure' we haveto abandon the exam oriented goal. #ukedchat

20:11:39

GeographyCarrieResilience is linked to self esteem- include elements ofconfidence building into lessons. Celebrate allachievements, praise #ukedchat

20:11:40 edubabbler

RT @PauloSwift: #ukedchat Allowing students to makemistakes is 1 thing, having the right supportmechanism in place to allow them to try again is

another.20:11:45 GeorgeEBlack #ukedchat ... When a student needs help editing get


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another student to help them... classroom becomescollaborative.

20:11:45 neilarthsRT @LearningSpy: @Monty_Math Coping with failureis only part of it - learning from perceived failure is

important too #ukedchat

20:11:49

lizdudley#ukedchat doesn't this go back to @thelazyteacher 'stalk at #tmclevedon about students finding ways to getunstuck without teacher help?

20:11:50 ICTEvangelist@thelazyteacher: 2 some extent students are indlrners-4 what they want 2 learn. issue is transfer 2things they don't! #UKEdChat

20:11:53 Mat6453RT @StuartLock: If we're going to model learning from'failure' we have to abandon the exam oriented goal.

#ukedchat agree

20:11:57 oldandrewuk#ukedchat I've heard claims that groupwork encourage"independence". It makes no sense unless"independence" means "freedom from authority".

20:12:04

hairlikeeddyAllow them to question for themselves and developtheir own strategies for dealing with all aspects oflearning. #ukedchat

20:12:07

MiltonSchwarz#ukedchat In order to fail, we need to teachcommitment, passion, determination first... The

problem is not failure, but apathy amongst sum!

20:12:08

MrPHorneraccept that making incremental improvement inlearning is long term and more than "getting themready for the exam" #ukedchat #ukedchat

20:12:12

LearningSpy@StuartLock When I get something wrong I reflect andwork how I can fail better. Perseverance is key. Madesome spectacular hashes #ukedchat

20:12:29

JOHNSAYERS#ukedchat many like to know where the learning isgoing, what's coming up the idea of awe to inspire and

work hard20:12:30

sezlRT @LearningSpy: @StuartLock Really? I modelfailure ALL the time #ukedchat

20:12:33

ICTEvangelistRT @largerama: http://t.co/azWpyh8m - A blog post Iwrote on spoon feeding at A level #ukedchat

20:12:42

MrAColleyRT @largerama: http://t.co/azWpyh8m - A blog post Iwrote on spoon feeding at A level #ukedchat

20:12:42

cherrylkd@StuartLock I agree with you #ukedchat need to teachthem that it's ok to be wrong but to seek correct way

20:12:45 DidgeH @Mat6453 there's a great Michael Jordan clip on youtube #ukedchat


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20:12:50

StuartLock @Mat6453 Not very realistic though, is it? #ukedchat

20:12:52

Tech_Stories#ukedchat @StuartLock Some might argue that we areraising a nation of quitters then? http://t.co/gB19bWYt

20:12:54

Mat6453 do we as teachers model failure as a way to improve?OFSTED #ukedchat

20:13 StuartLock@LearningSpy That's a mistake then. It's not failure.#ukedchat

20:13:08 LearningSpy@ecarsontc Really? Doing something easyacademically won't help much. Learning somethingHARD risks failure though #ukedchat

20:13:15 MrPHorner@LearningSpy Agreed, we should do all we can tofoster growth mindset #ukedchat #ukedchat

20:13:17 ecarsontc@jamesdhobsonuk #ukedchat - i believe health andsafety as well as an understandable move in favour ofchildren's rights lie @ heart of this

20:13:21

JOHNSAYERS#ukedchat allow students to have planning / materialinput to the learning. They like to impress:)

20:13:29

ICTEvangelistRT @lizdudley: #ukedchat doesn't this go back to@thelazyteacher 's talk at #tmclevedon about studentsfinding ways to get unstuck without teacher help?

20:13:3

2Cinderhills

@LearningSpy @StuartLock 'Ever tried. Ever failed.

No matter. Try again. Fail again. Fail better' #ukedchat

20:13:33 oldandrewuk@Tech_Stories #ukedchat Nobody doubts that payingattention is important. But it is required behaviour not ateachable skill.

20:13:40 Educationchat@oldandrewuk Thought you'd have your say on thisone. I think independence & resilience can easily beimproved through education. #ukedchat

20:13:40 StuartLock"RT @Mat6453: do we as teachers model failure as away to improve? OFSTED" Exactly #ukedchat

20:13:43 GeorgeEBlack#ukedchat my school's motto is 'plus et en vous' thereis more in you than you think... Seems good atpromoting resilience.

20:13:43 tishylishyI found my fs2 ch. Were more Ind. Than some ks2's.They'd lost the chance to explore, investigate and findout for self. #ukedchat

20:13:47 MichelleDhillonAllow them to tell you what they want. Let them have avoice that is listened to - this will empower them andincrease confidence #ukedchat

20:13:48 jamesmichie #ukedchat Failures important but its also about co-dependency, communication, choice, voice and meta-


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cognition inc reflection/evaluation.

20:13:51 MrAColley#ukedchat But do we really walk the walk when it'scrunch (ie results) time?

20:13:5

9 EmzGeog #ukedchat B4MASE. Before me ask someone else!

20:14:05 aangeliRT @ukedchat: 30 minutes until #ukedchat at 8pmwith @ICTEvangelist: How to make your studentsmore independent & resilient?'

20:14:08 creatortimOnce the journey is in place, we must shiftresponsibility towards the learner & create a culture ofa growth mindset. #ukedchat

20:14:08 LearningSpy@StuartLock Well I guess if you're defining failure asan absolute then maybe. This is about semantics

though #ukedchat20:14:18 StuartLock @Educationchat Easily? #ukedchat

20:14:18 dockers_hoopsSports is a very good example to build resilientlearners. Show them this video... #ukedchathttp://t.co/9dY6xzUS

20:14:19

oldandrewuk@Tech_Stories #ukedchat How can it be taught? Itdevelops through being made to stick at things, notthrough instruction.

20:14:24 LearningSpy

RT @Cinderhills: @LearningSpy @StuartLock 'Ever

tried. Ever failed. No matter. Try again. Fail again. Failbetter' #ukedchat Quite

20:14:26

EmathsUK#ukedchat Don't 'teach' independence & resilience -get kids doing bloody hard work that requires them tobehave that way. Stop spoonfeeding

20:14:36 te_ach_erPupils r more resilient than we realise.Hours spent onvideo games trying 2achieve a goal.How do wetranslate this in2 school? #ukedchat

20:14:38 HSEIndonesia

RT @ecarsontc2012@jamesdhobsonuk #ukedchat - i

believe health and safety as well as an understandablemove in favour of children's ri...

20:14:39

JamesTheoRT @LearningSpy: @Monty_Math Coping with failureis only part of it - learning from perceived failure isimportant too #ukedchat

20:14:44 jamesdhobsonuk@LearningSpy @StuartLock .Magic effects of failureover-rated.Prob is that the system demands uselessresults,not useful processes #ukedchat

20:14:44 Mr_P_Teach#ukedchat Without independence can we really

assess?20:14:47 Mat6453 @StuartLock teachers are not allowed to fail and learn,


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we have to be good. Modelling??? #ukedchat

20:14:56 ICTEvangelist @EmzGeog 3 b4 me? #UKEdChat

20:15:11 julianskyrmeUni of #Manchester likely to have held 1st ever HEOpen Day in 1937. #HigherEd #edu #ukedchat

#edchat #access http://t.co/1Xoi8HGr

20:15:12

MrPHorner@MrAColley by then it's too late. it needs to beestablished right in the early stages, then reap rewards#ukedchat #ukedchat

20:15:13 SpencerAyresIt's not just about independance, but Leading learning -get students to write SoW not just help in the oddlessons! #ukedchat

20:15:15 LearningSpy@jamesdhobsonuk Not sure what that means#ukedchat

20:15:16 GeorgeEBlack#ukedchat or it could be that once we've made themcamp on a mountain in the rain, suddenly theclassroom seems surmountable.

20:15:18 SheliBB@jamesmichie @stuartlock @GeographyCarrie or say'what do you think?' when they ask questions#ukedchat

20:15:29

debrichmond@hairlikeeddy This is one of the key parts of GuyClaxton's BLP. Well embedded in our school.#ukedchat

20:15:32

StuartLock @LearningSpy Maybe semantics, but consider how'failure' is labelled across society. #ukedchat

20:15:34 ecarsontc@LearningSpy exactly issue w/ failure, it forces us torecognise our vulnerabilities - how we reposed to thatis vital #ukedchat

20:15:38 StuartMaginnisRT @MrPHorner: @MrAColley by then it's too late. itneeds to be established right in the early stages, thenreap rewards #ukedchat #ukedchat


@thelazyteacher: Hence we need 2 act on how we

structure, deliver, celebrate & promote 'success' inschls. No 1 way. #UKEdChat

20:15:48 StuartLockI think we should be teaching them that makingmistakes is not failure. #ukedchat

20:15:56 MrAColleyIsn't this linked closely to motivation? Which in turn isusually linked to seeing the point? Real world audiencemakes big diff. #ukedchat

20:15:59

EmzGeog#ukedchat marking in a way that students have to beindependent and respond. "Can you spot the 3 spelling

mistakes on this page?"20:16:01 hlmrmo RT @StuartLock: I think we should be teaching them


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that making mistakes is not failure. #ukedchat

20:16:15 neilarthsRT @dockers_hoops: Sports is a very good exampleto build resilient learners. Show them this video...#ukedchat http://t.co/9dY6xzUS

20:16:16 primaryforme@tishylishy I agree, somewhere between fs2 and ks2kids lose independence and resilience! Is it testing?

Awareness of levels? #UKEdChat

20:16:17 SpencerAyres@te_ach_er Gamification of learning anyone...@arctic_sunrise... #ukedchat

20:16:17 LearningSpy@ecarsontc Well maybe. It also forces us to recognisewhat we don't know #ukedchat

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UoMSchoolsRT @julianskyrme: Uni of #Manchester likely to haveheld 1st ever HE Open Day in 1937. #HigherEd #edu

#ukedchat #edchat #access http://t.co/1Xoi8HGr

20:16:26

Tech_Stories

RT @EmathsUK: #ukedchat Don't 'teach'independence & resilience - get kids doing bloody hardwork that requires them to behave that way. Stopspoonfeeding

20:16:32

int3r9a1acticRT @largerama: http://t.co/azWpyh8m - A blog post Iwrote on spoon feeding at A level #ukedchat

20:16:33 jamesdhobsonuk@StuartLock Shorter in some ways-but responsibility,econonic independence=longer *kidults* #ukedchat

20:16:33 MrPHorner RT @StuartLock: I think we should be teaching themthat making mistakes is not failure. #ukedchat

20:16:44 eylanezekiel#ukedchat we should not be teaching for'Independence' . We should be fostering, andmodelling 'Interdependence'.

20:16:45 ICTEvangelistRT @dockers_hoops: Sports is a very good exampleto build resilient learners. Show them this video...#ukedchat http://t.co/9dY6xzUS

20:16:46 ecarsontc

@Mat6453 @StuartLock #ukedchat - but to model

effectively, we have to live authentically - failure is asmuch part of lie as success

20:16:48 tmeekyMy 8 year old keeps hijacking #ukedchat I suggestedshe runs a KidsEdChat .. does anyone have any kidsthat might be interested?

20:16:49

jamesmichie@Mr_SJS Yes. Support networks, group work,independent of the teacher. #ukedchat

20:16:52

Mat6453@StuartLock @hlmrmo definately, its actually the firststep in learning #ukedchat

20:17:04 LearningSpy @StuartLock Let's reclaim it. I'm happy to fail but amnot a failure. Hard on content - soft on people


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#ukedchat

20:17:11 MiltonSchwarz@tishylishy #ukedchat Completely agree... Childrenseem to gain more inhibitions as they mature...Pressure to conform to the norm?

20:17:13 jackieschneider Struggling to find a way in to this weeks #ukedchat

20:17:16 Educationchat#ukedchat Allowing children the chance to take chargeof their own learning, learn from mistakes enablesindependence.

20:17:19

StuartLock@jamesdhobsonuk This is a whole 'nother topic, isn'tit? #ukedchat

20:17:24

MrAColley@MrPHorner Very true. I know I'd prob sit back a bit if Iknew someone else would pick up the baton when itreally mattered! ;) #ukedchat

20:17:24

MrPHorner Gamification = problem based learning. FTW!#ukedchat #ukedchat

20:17:25

ecarsontc @MrPHorner @StuartLock #ukedchat - YES, good

20:17:25

SpencerAyresAn old blog post about finding out who we are trying toshape... http://t.co/p6ocwciE #ukedchat

20:17:26

DidgeHRT @MrPHorner: RT @StuartLock: I think we shouldbe teaching them that making mistakes is not failure.#ukedchat

20:17:27

lizdudleyRT @SheliBB: @jamesmichie @stuartlock@GeographyCarrie or say 'what do you think?' whenthey ask questions #ukedchat

20:17:29

GeorgeEBlack#ukedchat at the start of year 12 I set my students offon their tasks and let them succeed or fail for the firstfew weeks. Once...

20:17:31 debrichmond"@StuartLock: I think we should be teaching them thatmaking mistakes is not failure. #ukedchat" instead it ispart of the learning process.

20:17:47 RavenEllison@EmathsUK what are you talking about!? You "can't'teach' independence and resilience" Yes you can!Give opportunities to fail! #ukedchat

20:17:51 Tech_Stories@oldandrewuk #ukedchat yes and like today's articleabout boys and reading... these are key areas whereteachers need parental support!!!

20:17:53 creatorious#UKEdChat celebrate failure in familiar contexts andcelebrate moral heroes

20:17:53 MattOswin

@SheliBB @lizdudley @jamesmichie @stuartlock

@GeographyCarrie And then get them to explain theirthinking #ukedchat


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20:17:53 PauloSwiftRT @eylanezekiel: #ukedchat we should not beteaching for 'Independence' . We should be fostering,and modelling 'Interdependence'.

20:17:55 Mr_P_Teach

#ukedchat Mangahigh has help my children become

resilient in mathematics. Game based learning andcompetition.

20:17:57 frogphilp@jackieschneider Me too. What's the theme orquestion? #ukedchat

20:17:59

oldandrewuk@jamesmichie @jamesdhobsonuk #ukedchat That'strue, but odd to describe teaching somebody to read(say) as teaching independence.

20:18 ethinking#ukedchat 3 sorts of people in the world - those whomake things happen, let things happen & wonder what

has happened http://t.co/VtK5OPH0

20:18:03 MissionExploreRT @tmeeky: My 8 year old keeps hijacking#ukedchat I suggested she runs a KidsEdChat .. doesanyone have any kids that might be interested?

20:18:05 ICTEvangelist@eylanezekiel: #ukedchat we should not be teachingfor 'Independence' . We should be fostering, andmodelling 'Interdependence'. expand?

20:18:17 Educationchat#ukedchat Just looking at how some SEN children'can't' work without someone sitting next to them

demonstrates the need for independence.

20:18:22

PeterSpencer88@SheliBB @jamesmichie @StuartLock@GeographyCarrie setting questions asked by chn asprojects/homework/research #ukedchat

20:18:24

StuartLock@ecarsontc Agreed.I don't think failure should be anaim though.We aim for success, or increased successvia learning inc mistakes #ukedchat

20:18:24

LearningSpyRT @StuartLock: If we're going to model learning from'failure' we have to abandon the exam oriented goal.

#ukedchat - do we?20:18:27

MrAColleyRT @eylanezekiel: #ukedchat we should not beteaching for 'Independence' . We should be fostering,and modelling 'Interdependence'.

20:18:28

HumphriesPrsnlRT @julianskyrme: Uni of #Manchester likely to haveheld 1st ever HE Open Day in 1937. #HigherEd #edu#ukedchat #edchat #access http://t.co/1Xoi8HGr

20:18:28

MJ_HumphriesRT @julianskyrme: Uni of #Manchester likely to haveheld 1st ever HE Open Day in 1937. #HigherEd #edu

#ukedchat #edchat #access http://t.co/1Xoi8HGr20:18:34 ecarsontc @LearningSpy #ukedchat - yes indeed. being more


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prepared next time is a personality response, not anacademic surely

20:18:35 jamesmichieMRT @eylanezekiel: #ukedchat we should not bteaching 4 'Independence' . We should be fostering, &

modelling 'Interdependence'.


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20:19:38

MrWickensPEEmbed independent learning into student lifestyle: 1)Knowing where I am going. 2) Knowing how I am goingto get there. (1/2) #ukedchat

20:19:4

1 Monty_Math

Are chn more or less resilient now than past

generations - if less why? What's changed? #ukedchat20:19:49

StuartLock@LearningSpy Try convincing the students or teachersthat failing at exams is ok. #ukedchat

20:19:55

traceyab1@tmeeky think you you bring that idea to #DLchatstraight after #ukedchat. Sounds like just our sort ofthing!

20:20:03

LearningSpy@jamesdhobsonuk Yes, that's true. Was that what youmeant before? Can't disagree with any of it. Well done#ukedchat

20:20:04

MiltonSchwarzRT @jackieschneider: Maybe if government stoppedmicro managing us we might stop micro managingkids? #ukedchat

20:20:06

SheliBB@PeterSpencer88 @jamesmichie @stuartlock@geographycarrie I have a 'why box' in my room sothat children can do just that :-) #ukedchat

20:20:06

nicoladarling78@primaryforme @tishylishy I suspect test test test is apart of it as although you try not to make it a big deal#ukedchat

20:20:12

Monty_Math@jackieschneider: Maybe if government stoppedmicro managing us we might stop micro managingkids? #ukedchat agreed

20:20:14

eylanezekiel@ICTEvangelist #ukedchat Gosh, where to start. Ok-as humans, we are most successful when we workcollaboratively, not on our own

20:20:15

nicoladarling78RT @StuartLock: I think we should be teaching themthat making mistakes is not failure. #ukedchat

20:20:2

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ebd35#ukedchat any ideas how to to be willing to fail when

their greatest fear IS failure?

20:20:23

oldandrewuk

RT @EmathsUK: #ukedchat Don't 'teach'independence & resilience - get kids doing bloody hardwork that requires them to behave that way. Stopspoonfeeding

20:20:23

ecarsontc@StuartLock failure as an aim, haha. Cld think of afew students it may ultimately, but yes, agree of course#ukedchat

20:20:2

4 Educationchat

@oldandrewuk Becoming cleverer is one aspects of

education. Do you become cleverer at PE, Art orMusic? #ukedchat


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care of the problem... #ukedchat

20:21:08

tishylishy@MiltonSchwarz I think some ks2 teachers have adifferent approach. I am very diff. To my TA. I allowthem to find out, TA tells. #ukedchat

20:21:13

ethinking#ukedchat dn't grow a wishbone where u shld have abackbone - now step up & face it down #be-a-man.Even if ur not ;) http://t.co/VtK5OPH0

20:21:15

Mat6453think issue is teachers letting go and allowing mistakessome say they have no time they teach to exam nospace for independance #ukedchat

20:21:17

nmckainSir what do I do when I've finished? You haven'tfinished until youve helped someone else learn. Needboth inde&inter dependence #ukedchat

20:21:18

GeorgeEBlackRT @kristian: Sorry to use #ukedchat for selfflatterybut we just designed an app for a sch to totally changehow lessons are planned http://t.co/CNScGYny

20:21:20

StuartLock@LearningSpy Too late; they've already been taughtthey are failures. I'm arguing we'd need to abandonthat if failure is ok. #ukedchat

20:21:22

ICTEvangelistTopic reminder: HOW to make your students moreindependent & resilient?


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(Combine)

20:22:12

StuartLock@SheliBB Like this, and like post-it walls and so on.#ukedchat

20:22:18 oldandrewuk

@Educationchat #ukedchat Well, yes. However, the

fact that those subjects aren't just about the intellect iswhy they've always had a...

20:22:19

SpencerAyres@ebd35 Surely we need to know why their greatestfear is failure in order to combat it. Is it purely down toexam scores etc? #ukedchat

20:22:20

ethinkingRT @LearningSpy: Agree with @oldandrewuk (IKNOW!) in that independence is an odd goal.Interdependence seems more worthwhile #ukedchat

20:22:20 MrWickensPE

Resource table where teacher can provide ICT access,

books & other resources that you may have created forstudent research #3b4me #ukedchat

20:22:31

LearningSpy@StuartLock Failure *is* OK - not getting theopportunity to try again is the crime #ukedchat

20:22:32

MichelleDhillonI find that leaderboards, points, gaming mechanics,rewards have made students more resilient as theycan see what is right/fair #ukedchat

20:22:33

StuartLock@ICTEvangelist OK, but one of the aspects of HOW isbe convinced it's right! #ukedchat

20:22:40

Tech_Stories@RavenEllison @EmathsUK #ukedchat Or SamWalton when his kids asked "Can I climb that bluff?"reply "If you feel you're big enough to do it"

20:22:41

MrPHorner@eylanezekiel and not as a responsibility, tocommunity and to self. Good point. #ukedchat#ukedchat

20:22:49

dan_bowen"@largerama: http://t.co/NYIpFozI - A blog post I wroteon spoon feeding at A level #ukedchat" #surreyict

20:22:50 traceyab1

@ebd35: #ukedchat any ideas how to to be willing to

fail when their greatest fear IS failure? start from earlyyears

20:22:50

tishylishy@nicoladarling78 @primaryforme They seem unableto fend for self. Pointless questions "can I get a pencilshall I put my name on?" #ukedchat

20:23 StuartLock"RT @LearningSpy: Agree with @oldandrewuk in thatindependence is an odd goal. Interdependence seemsmore worthwhile" Agree #ukedchat

20:23:0

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Mat6453@SpencerAyres easier to fail by not trying than to try

and except it was your fault??? #ukedchat20:23:0 oldandrewuk @Educationchat #ukedchat ...contested place in


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8education. For many they are hobbies not academicdisciplines.

20:23:1

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ecarsontc@LearningSpy @StuartLock #ukedchat - of course itsan emotive word. we 2 readily see exams as an end -

they r really just part of the proces

20:23:17

ICTEvangelistRT @jackieschneider: @ICTEvangelist - easy! Ignoreleague tables & idiotic SATS & concentrate on realeducation #ukedchat

20:23:22

ICTEvangelistRT @LearningSpy: Agree with @oldandrewuk (IKNOW!) in that independence is an odd goal.Interdependence seems more worthwhile #ukedchat

20:23:2

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A15HHRT @jackieschneider: Maybe if government stoppedmicro managing us we might stop micro managing

kids? #ukedchat

20:23:31

JamiePortman#UKedchat Teachers can be students worst enemy fordeveloping independence & resilience. We are tooquick to intervene: gotta learn 2 let go

20:23:45

LearningSpyRT @ecarsontc: #ukedchat - of course its an emotiveword. we 2 readily see exams as an end - they r really

just part of the proces > YES

20:23:47

StuartLock@LearningSpy So abandon exams and move to whatQueensland, Australia have (for example) at the

moment (no exams at all) #ukedchat

20:23:52

Educationchat

RT @JamiePortman: #UKedchat Teachers can bestudents worst enemy for developing independence &resilience. We are too quick to intervene: gotta learn 2let go

20:23:53

Gwenelope@ICTEvangelist Does this then all boil down to the evilof league tables? Statistics more important than theperson? #ukedchat

20:23:5

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dan_bowen#ukedchat By making sure the tasks set allow for

independance and resilience. Simple20:23:54

WillDunlop74"@Pekabelo: Think of failure as a natural part ofeffective learning. #ukedchat" Quite so, but make sureyou try to avoid it nonetheless!

20:24:01

dringl01#ukedchat TASC is a really useful tool to graduallybuild independence from early primary

20:24:02

primaryformeRT@jackieschneider: @ICTEvangelist - easy! Ignoreleague tables & idiotic SATS & concentrate on realeducation" definitely #ukedchat

20:24:10 ICTEvangelist RT @eylanezekiel: @ICTEvangelist #ukedchat also,we have a selfish society, w/ poor levels of 'respect'


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because we teach independence as an entitlementIMHO

20:24:1

8 dockers_hoops

RT @JamiePortman: #UKedchat Teachers can bestudents worst enemy for developing independence &

resilience. We are too quick to intervene: gotta learn 2let go

20:24:20

eylanezekiel@ICTEvangelist #ukedchat finally... I don't think kidswant 'independence'. Their own identity & space, yes!But meaningful connections too

20:24:25

MrPHorner@JamiePortman And often for the sake of expedience.Too true. #ukedchat #ukedchat

20:24:3

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LearningSpy@StuartLock I don't have a problem with exams - justthe way they are perceived as one shot pass or fail

events #ukedchat

20:24:33

Mr_SJS@LearningSpy @oldandrewuk Interdependence - asuperb ethos to build in the classroom. After all, we'reall sort of doing it now... #ukedchat

20:24:45

nicoladarling78@Mat6453 I agree letting go. Always worrying and tostart with there is fear on both sides! #ukedchat

20:24:45

frogphilp@oldandrewuk The ultimate Primary teacher is adiscontented hobbyist... #ukedchat

20:24:49 Mat6453

let students enjoy the journey, make mistakes and still

complete the trip. be supportive but not a spoonfeeder. #ukedchat

20:24:50

LearningSpy @Mr_SJS Quite #ukedchat

20:24:53

PeterSpencer88@jackieschneider @ICTEvangelist True, the testculture forces chn to be scared of failure or the wronganswer. Need to get rid #ukedchat

20:24:59

GeographyCarrie@Mat6453 but surely we need to teach independence,otherwise how will they even know how to revise for

the exam?! #ukedchat

20:25 MrWickensPE@ICTEvangelist @theEWSchool IndependentLearning skills resources. https://t.co/HxzXg4dv#ukedchat

20:25:04

GeorgeEBlack

RT @eylanezekiel: @ICTEvangelist #ukedchatfinally... I don't think kids want 'independence'. Theirown identity & space, yes! But meaningful connectionstoo

20:25:0

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RT @JamiePortman: #UKedchat Teachers can be

students worst enemy for developing independence &resilience. We are too quick to intervene: gotta learn 2


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let go

20:25:18

davidfawcett27#ukedchat Model resilience and indepedence. Providethe support and opportunity. Reward it when ithappens. Help them develop good habits

20:25:23

EmathsUK#ukedchat the reason so many kids are so wet isbecause so many teachers spoon feed and don'trequire them think

20:25:24

StrictTeacher99there are so many good ideas coming up, are thetweets archived anywhere? #ukedchat

20:25:26

sfrench21Students who are reluctant to be resilient - give onered card for a task- once they've used it, they cannotask for any more help #ukedchat

20:25:2

8 ICTEvangelist @eylanezekiel how can we foster this? #UKEdChat20:25:34

EmzGeogKagan cooperative learning allows students to work inteams but also be independent #ukedchat

20:25:38

lizdudley@JamiePortman totally agree with that, I'm far to quickto leap in with support sometimes, need to breathe &let them work it out #ukedchat

20:25:41

ethinking#ukedchat @oldandrewuk I've seen a boy who sawhis commitment 2 diving @tomdaley style yield results.He. Applied that lesson 2school wrk

20:25:52

LearningSpy@StuartLock That's the problem with Ofsted -

judgement & blame culture are unhelpful ways ofgrowing creative risk taking tchrs #ukedchat

20:25:55

ebd35@SpencerAyres 'why their greatest fear is failure' poorself esteem. emotional behaviour problems #ukedchat

20:25:58

jamesmichie@oldandrewuk @jamesdhobsonuk Because theirteacher will not always be there. Schools fosterlearned dependency. #ukedchat

20:25:58 Mat6453

@GeographyCarrie if learning is fun do they need to

revise. the memory may be there from the learning???#ukedchat

20:26:02

MrPHorner@GeographyCarrie case in point, many don't. Manydon't try because they are waiting for the day of timetable etc #ukedchat

20:26:05

digitaldaisies@largerama: http://t.co/gB9mPwXf - A blog post Iwrote on spoon feeding at A level #ukedchat> too true

20:26:05

ecarsontc#ukedchat - so? place of extra-curricular activity infostering independence & resilience?

20:26:12 BrightAire Value processes (developed by learners) as well asoutcomes. #ukedchat #lcclearn21c


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20:26:23

StrictTeacher99RT @EmathsUK: #ukedchat the reason so many kidsare so wet is because so many teachers spoon feedand dont require them think #ukedchat

20:26:39 jackieschneider

I know what we mean by independence & resilience

means. When kids "independently" ignore us &"resilently" carry on we get mad? #ukedchat

20:26:40

LearningSpy@MrAColley Of course we don't *want* to - that's whyit's hard. #ukedchat

20:26:42

HThompson1982@davidfawcett27 @ictevangelist I agree with this!Modelling and praise is key to developing new skillsand behaviours! #UKEdChat

20:26:4

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ICTEvangelist@StrictTeacher99: there are so many good ideascoming up, are the tweets archived anywhere?

#ukedchat they are afterwards20:26:45

StuartLock@LearningSpy Agree, OFSTED only a part of theproblem though #ukedchat

20:26:46

Educationchat@oldandrewuk For many? Many? I doubt many thinklike that. Hope not. Unless they're Tories of course, inwhich case I'd expect it. #ukedchat

20:26:48

urban_teacher

RT @StrictTeacher99: RT @EmathsUK: #ukedchatthe reason so many kids are so wet is because somany teachers spoon feed and dont require them think

#ukedchat20:26:52

ecarsontc @sfrench21 #ukedchat - have you tried that?

20:26:55

irnbrew


20:26:56

Cinderhills@JamiePortman Accountability culture promotes:eager to show we are 'doing our job'. Hard to stand

back and let learning happen #ukedchat

20:27 oldandrewuk@frogphilp #ukedchat Which is probably why so manykids turn up at secondary unable to read, write or addup.

20:27:08

lovepookiecat

RT @StrictTeacher99: RT @EmathsUK: #ukedchatthe reason so many kids are so wet is because somany teachers spoon feed and dont require them think#ukedchat

20:27:0

9 MrPHorner

RT @EmathsUK: #ukedchat the reason so many kids

are so wet is because so many teachers spoon feedand dont require them think #ukedchat


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20:27:11

LearningSpy@StuartLock They drive it along with league tables#ukedchat

20:27:1

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Teachertrying@ICTEvangelist #ukedchat. Is the independencephrase more for the students. It is the detachment from

teacher dominated and spoonfed lesson

20:27:12

nicoladarling78@trying2teach2 P4C seems to have dipped off theradar again. When I used it last year it went really well!#ukedchat

20:27:12

frogphilpHere's the thing: it's not the teaching that destroysinependence, not the tests. It's the league tables.#ukedchat

20:27:3

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GeorgeEBlack@ecarsontc #ukedchat very very important, allows theless academic to succeed somewhere and that

confidence transfers.20:27:32

KDWScience @sfrench21 #ukedchat brilliant idea

20:27:33

MiltonSchwarz@nicoladarling78 @tishylishy #ukedchat I had a Y5child join from dif school, way behind peers. On day 1,he said "what board do I copy?"

20:27:37

JOHNSAYERS@Teachertrying I have a skill Tracker linked to solo sowith your weaknesses students seek students withdesired skill & coach #ukedchat

20:27:39

Tech_Stories@Educationchat @oldandrewuk #ukedchat Somewould disagree with this... as you can become clevererwith persistence http://t.co/PsCERe4q

20:27:42

MrPHorner@Cinderhills depends what standards you use to holdto account #ukedchat

20:27:52

IaninSheffieldMT @EmzGeog: Kagan cooperative learning allowsstudents to work in teams but also be independent#ukedchat - http://t.co/mLhWckFT

20:27:5

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StuartLock@nicoladarling78 Hate P4C. Just teach Philosophy!

#offtopicsorry #ukedchat20:27:54

SheliBB@StuartLock the questions they ask are fantastic! :-)#ukedchat #whybox

20:27:54

Tech_StoriesRT @frogphilp: Here's the thing: it's not the teachingthat destroys inependence, not the tests. It's theleague tables. #ukedchat

20:27:55

largerama@frogphilp thtas not ture in all instances #ukedchat.Sometimes its the teachin thats at fault

20:27:5

8 MichelleDhillon

Also never underestimate the value of safe social

networking for classroom. Learners get their ownspace to connect with others #ukedchat


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20:28:01

jackieschneiderMeant to say I dont know what we mean byindependence & resilience! #ukedchat

20:28:08

PeterSpencer88@sfrench21 sounds like a good idea, how do childrenrespond? #ukedchat

20:28:13

GwenelopeRT @LearningSpy: Agree with @oldandrewuk (IKNOW!) in that independence is an odd goal.Interdependence seems more worthwhile #ukedchat

20:28:16

LearningSpy@SpencerAyres Getting students to write a SoL is agreat way for them to learn nothing useful #ukedchat

20:28:21

te_ach_er@michelledhillon Loving the idea of Rockhaq. Willhave a really good look after #ukedchat

20:28:2

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dockers_hoops@Cinderhills @JamiePortman sadly thats very true. Inlast two obs Ive done the teacher dived in seconds

after asking questions #ukedchat

20:28:25

GeographyCarrie@Mat6453 I think that comes down to the individuallearner... Some do, some don't. All will still need to doexam practice #ukedchat

20:28:29

MrsPrentice11I think how resilient & independent a child is has a lotmore to do with their home life than what happens inschool #ukedchat

20:28:31

StrictTeacher99@nicoladarling78 we're starting it properly in Septtrialling ideas now it's going really well! #ukedchat

20:28:41

SpencerAyres Do we have a "missed generation of effective learners"http://t.co/nxv6BVhy #ukedchat

20:28:42

EddieGouthwaite#UkEdchat Let them sit on the corridors afterregistration don't intervene

20:28:47

eylanezekiel@ICTEvangelist #ukedchat See @Innovation_UnitEngaging Schools materials. IMO Major obstacle is(ducks 1st) existing workforce (runs...)

20:28:49

oldandrewuk@jamesmichie @jamesdhobsonuk #ukedchat If I wasill would my doctor say "well I'm not always going to be

here to treat you"?20:28:49

Tech_Stories@Cinderhills @JamiePortman #ukedchat Culture inEducation - A house divided against itself cannot standhttp://t.co/8x9g5gW6

20:28:53

ecarsontc@GeorgeEBlack I wonder if that's quite a privatesector concept tho? how seriously is it taken in statesector? #ukedchat

20:28:55

MrWickensPECan we blame OFSTED? - Unsure! They visit yourschool once every few years so time to embed

independent learning skills #ukedchat20:29:0 Monty_Math How does independence fit with being part of a


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1community and working towards shared goals?Perhaps chn can be too ind? #ukedchat

20:29:0

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StuartLock@SheliBB But content free (I'm being polemical) as ifeverything comes from within. Why not use rich

tradition of philosophy? #ukedchat

20:29:04

MrAMills


20:29:10

nicoladarling78@sfrench21 That sounds like a good way ofencouraging them. One to give a try! #ukedchat

20:29:1

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Mat6453my biggest successes come from failing students butexplaining why. its the support that breeds resilience

#ukedchat20:29:11

Teachertrying#ukedchat. De bono's thinking hats work well withKagan strategies too

20:29:15

LearningSpyRT @StuartLock: we should be teaching them thatmaking mistakes is not failure. #ukedchat I'll go alongwith that. Failing is not failure

20:29:16

ethinking#ukedchat @largerama @frogphilp u can't say that -teachers aren't e we at fault - its a really difficult job uknow

20:29:19

ICTEvangelist RT @te_ach_er: @michelledhillon Loving the idea ofRockhaq. Will have a really good look after #ukedchat

20:29:33

IS_Education_UKWe deliver careers talks in #schools & universities onworking in the media- http://t.co/iWet3MyC #FF us#TeacherTuesday #ukedchat #edunews

20:29:36

JamesTheo@oldandrewuk @frogphilp How "many"? And howmany is that compared to previous figures? #ukedchat

20:29:40

PekabeloI speak at length about how students need to defergratification- talk about potty training and pictures on

the fridge! #ukedchat20:29:44

MiltonSchwarz#ukedchat I wonder if ridicule by peers leads to a fearof public failure... Making tasks unique/personalisedmeans chd tend not to compare.

20:29:45

te_ach_er@michelledhillon @SpencerAyres Teaching year 2 atthe moment, but there's been at least 1 JLS gigattendee this year! #ukedchat

20:29:46

StrictTeacher99RT @Teachertrying: #ukedchat. De bonos thinkinghats work well with Kagan strategies too #ukedchat

20:29:48 ecarsontc @MrsPrentice11 A Lot more? even from an academicperspective? #ukedchat


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20:29:51

lizdudley@HThompson1982 yep found that this year once Irelaxed a little and became more of a 'lazy teacher'!#ukedchat

20:29:54 sfrench21

Another way helping independence-give a task, & pin

up info they may need to help around the room-theyhave 2 find rather than ask #ukedchat

20:29:58

LearningSpy@MrAColley FOFO is not a good way to fosterresilience. I'm advocating FuFO #ukedchat

20:29:59

Tech_Stories#ukedchat When we describe a child as gifted, whatwe mean is that the ability to practise a lot comeseasily to them http://t.co/l37FkErR

20:30:03 HuntingEnglish

RT @JamiePortman: #UKedchat Teachers can bestudents worst enemy for developing independence &

resilience. We are too quick to intervene: gotta learn 2let go

20:30:05 largerama @ethinking wot do u think I am? a builder? #ukedchat

20:30:05 SheliBBIf my children ask where to put something/wheresomething is I ask them to find out or say'do what youthink' #ukedchat it builds initiative

20:30:08 StuartLock@LearningSpy Failing is not failure - ok, that's what Isaid a while ago! Agreed! #ukedchat

20:30:09 jamesmichie

@oldandrewuk @jamesdhobsonuk So by that youre

suggesting tht when I dont know a word I shld call upmy old English teacher!? #ukedchat

20:30:10 MrWickensPEIf you give students the right environment they willthrive independently. Give them realistic targets andguidance #ukedchat

20:30:12

CarrotyCarrots


20:30:12

oldandrewuk@jamesmichie @jamesdhobsonuk #ukedchat Theidea of not doing one's job in case people "depend" onyou doing it seems absurd.

20:30:21

jamesdhobsonukThe answer to promoting ind and res is to endspoonfeeding. That would be a start.I got no idea howto do it. Please tell me :) #ukedchat

20:30:24

LearningSpyRT @eylanezekiel: #ukedchat we should not beteaching for 'Independence' . We should be fostering,and modelling 'Interdependence'. Quite

20:30:25 sfrench21 @PeterSpencer88 see as a challenge - they're oftensurprised when got to end and haven't had to use!


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#ukedchat

20:30:26

creatortimLearners understanding comfort-stretch-panic inlearning helps promote resilience - it's OK to move onthis curve. #ukedchat

20:30:31 MrPHorner@MrWickensPE agreed. If we concentrated onbuilding resilient students with independent learninghabits- we wouldn't sweat OFSTED #ukedchat

20:30:31 ePaceonlineRT @Educationchat: #ukedchat Allowing children thechance to take charge of their own learning, learn frommistakes enables independence.

20:30:32

SpencerAyres@LearningSpy How is that 'learning nothing useful'? Ifit's theirs they will do it to far higher standard#ukedchat

20:30:33 MichelleDhillon@monty_math I think @rockhaq will answer yourquestions :) community, shared goals, own space yetintegrated with others #ukedchat

20:30:42

LearningSpy @StuartLock #ukedchat

20:30:45 traceyab1#ukedchat we use 6 toy puppets with specific lifelonglearning skills qualities attached to each of them. Chnlearn to behave like them YR-2

20:30:50 nicoladarling78

@StrictTeacher99 Loved it and used quite a variety

linked to topic and otherwise. I may have to work onbringing it in again! #ukedchat

20:30:50 dandesignthinkLet the kids fail and fail fast flearn learn through failure#ukedchat

20:30:51 ColinGoffin@StuartLock: I think we should be teaching them thatmaking mistakes is not failure. #ukedchat Spot on asever.

20:30:54 SwayGrantham #ukedchat just joined - what's the topic?


@Teachertrying: #ukedchat. De bono's thinking hats

work well with Kagan strategies too explain in atweet?!

20:31 JOHNSAYERS#ukedchat keeping on top of the strategies importantto. Persistence -> Perfection students need time tograsp these approaches t accelerate

20:31:01 ecarsontc@LearningSpy @StuartLock Uh-Oh, #ukedchat tiffalert?

20:31:02

KDWScience@dockers_hoops @cinderhills @jamieportman#ukedchat does it come back to pose, pause bounce,

but more pause for independance20:31:07 LearningSpy @SpencerAyres How? If they write a SoL they'll just


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include what they already know #ukedchat

20:31:15 jamesmichieIL is about having skills/confidence 2 go it alone butalso knowing when 2 seek support. It's about choice,reflection, evaluation #ukedchat

20:31:22

BrightAire.@davidfawcett27 - modelling def. imp. Demoidependence in your own learning. Leaders shld belearners. #ukedchat #lcclearn21c

20:31:29

GeorgeEBlack@ecarsontc #ukedchat possibly, but we are linked toan academy that is beginning to benefit too...Spreading the word.

20:31:47 StuartLock @ecarsontc Love him really @learningspy #ukedchat

20:31:50 MiltonSchwarz@tishylishy @nicoladarling78 #ukedchat No real creditto me, but by promoting independence and stepping bk

from him, he made rapid progress!20:32:02

MichelleDhillonRT @te_ach_er: @michelledhillon Loving the idea ofRockhaq. Will have a really good look after #ukedchat

20:32:04

ColinGoffin@LearningSpy @stuartlock 'I hate to lose. But I'm notafraid of failure' Thierry Henry #ukedchat#posteronmyclassroomwall

20:32:05

MichaelaPorter2RT @jackieschneider: @ICTEvangelist - easy! Ignoreleague tables & idiotic SATS & concentrate on realeducation #ukedchat

20:32:06

LearningSpy @MrAColley FOFO = F*** off and Find out. FUFO =F*** Up and Find Out #ukedchat

20:32:07

Mat6453is the staff student relationship key to this? #ukedchatsafe environment, not focused on targets but hardwork

20:32:16

MansfieldRich @sfrench21 sounds like a good idea #ukedchat

20:32:19

tmeekyMy 8 year old keeps hijacking #ukedchat I suggestedshe runs a KidsEdChat .. does anyone have any kids

that might be interested??20:32:22

MrWickensPEStudents are naturally resilient at a young age, schoolssuck it out of them. Give them freedom andopportunities! #ukedchat

20:32:22

JivespinGiving students responsibility and trusting them is thebest way of learning. The brave thing is to allow themto make mistakes #ukedchat

20:32:26

LearningSpyRT @ColinGoffin: @LearningSpy @stuartlock 'I hate tolose. But I'm not afraid of failure' Thierry Henry

#ukedchat Nice maxim20:32:2 StuartLock Do think the "let them get on with it" view can ignore


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9that there is a conversation of mankind to induct theminto. #ukedchat

20:32:3

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GeorgeEBlackRT @Mat6453: is the staff student relationship key tothis? #ukedchat safe environment, not focused on

targets but hard work

20:32:36

jackieschneiderGov dictates to Heads, heads dictate to staff, staffdictate to kids. Schools sometime have NOTHING todo with education #ukedchat

20:32:36

nicoladarling78@SheliBB ditto! They eventually try and look as theyknow my answer will be 'What do you think?' or 'Whatdo you think I'll say?" #ukedchat

20:32:37

ICTEvangelist @jamesdhobsonuk just stop it? #UKEdChat

20:32:39

arctic_sunrise RT @SpencerAyres: Do we have a "missed generationof effective learners" http://t.co/nxv6BVhy #ukedchat

20:32:43

traceyab1@MrWickensPE: Can we blame OFSTED? - No theypositive embraced our lifelong learning skills approach#ukedchat

20:32:45

ethinking#ukedchat @frogphilp nope it's the cowardice of theadults in school who chase the tables Instead of theirprinciples @lagerama

20:32:46 GeorgeEBlack

@Mat6453: is the staff student relationship key to

this? #ukedchat safe environment, not focused ontargets but hard work YES!

20:32:47

sfrench21Is important to not try & pull independent reliantactivities out just for OFSTED-students need to getused to over the year #ukedchat

20:32:49

GwenelopeRT @LearningSpy: RT @ColinGoffin: @LearningSpy@stuartlock 'I hate to lose. But I'm not afraid of failure'Thierry Henry #ukedchat Nice maxim

20:32:4

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jamesmichie@oldandrewuk @jamesdhobsonuk #ukedchat I can't

agree! Education is a stage, learning is for life.20:32:49

EmathsUK#ukedchat Maybe we should start by having teacherswho are independent and resilient. Many aren't. Whyare there so many downtrodden & wet?

20:32:55

ecarsontc@GeorgeEBlack #ukedchat - not saying it doesn'tapply in state, rather I don't know if it happens

20:32:57

StuartLockeg you can't be 'free' in a chemistry lab unlesssignificant input from specialists #ukedchat

20:33:03 oldandrewuk

@Educationchat #ukedchat Nice ad hominem, but the

place of hobbies in the curriculum has always beencontroversial.


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to follow instructions #ukedchat

20:34:12

GeorgeEBlack@ecarsontc probably not as much as it should, DofE isa good start though #ukedchat


@ICTEvangelist No politically possible. If I intervene

massively i can improve exam results. Pay rises+lovely numbers all round #ukedchat

20:34:19

jamesmichieCheck out my M.Ed research into IndependentLearning: https://t.co/XfhruRE3 #ukedchat #mainedu

20:34:20

corneronryeChildren like challenge. They like to have to think hard.I asked my class and that's what they told me#ukedchat

20:34:2

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MiltonSchwarz#ukedchat Resilience is hard to foster in opposition toparents... "My child missed 5 minutes of play yesterday

and he was really upset..."20:34:23

urban_teacherHow true is it! that teachers need to be resilient with

ALL their students too!! #ukedchat

20:34:25

MrWickensPE@theEWSchool is working with the Learning SchoolsTrust to create a curriculum that is independent,personalised and revolutionary #ukedchat

20:34:35 StuartLock@smile2learn Read her most recent one and bought itfor all our middle leaders #Dweck #ukedchat

20:34:36 jamesmichie

RT @ethinking: #ukedchat @jamesdhobsonuk be

transparent - tell the kids what your plans are - co-construct the outcomes and rules - they will supportyou

20:34:42

ecarsontc @StuartLock @learningspy #ukedchat - so sweet

20:34:43 Tech_Stories@MrsPrentice11 #ukedchat Couldn't agree more!Teachers could do with this kind of @kipp parental &student charter http://t.co/OW1M5wY9

20:34:44 ColinGoffin

@jamesmichie @oldandrewuk @jamesdhobsonuk Is

there a need to caress our egos by having studentsthat can't succeed without us? #ukedchat

20:34:46 StrictTeacher99RT @EmathsUK: #ukedchat Mayb we should starthavingteachers who r independent&resilient.Manyarent.y r so many downtrodden&wet? #ukedchat

20:34:46 ethinking#ukedchat @SwayGrantham how difficult it is being ateacher - ofsted - league tables - same as everyweek ;)


RT @smile2learn: @ColinGoffin @stuartlock

#ukedchat it's essential, Carol Dwecks work onmindset is worth a read, all about creating the growth


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mindset.

20:34:57 DidgeH@ethinking mantle of the expert is brilliant for that#ukedchat

20:35:01 Mad_teach

#ukedchat show them that everyone makes mistakes.

Make spelling mistakes urself. But not in front of ofsted!

20:35:03 StuartLock@MrPHorner Agree, hence you need to be inductedinto conversations that have developed the lab to bewhat it is. #ukedchat

20:35:08 SpencerAyres@LearningSpy No they won't! That's exactly wheremost people get it so wrong!! You're giving students nocredit at all! #ukedchat

20:35:13 MiltonSchwarz @Magicfullstop #ukedchat Yes... Exactly.

20:35:16 primaryforme #ukedchat also agree with those suggesting CarolDweck's Mindset theory

20:35:19

SheliBB@nicoladarling78 tiring at the start of the year, butquick results! Next teachers have said they are good atusing initiative #ukedchat

20:35:22

MissionExplore@GeorgeEBlack: @ecarsontc probably not as muchas it should, DofE is a good start though #ukedchatagreed

20:35:2

3LearningSpy

RT @ecarsontc: @StuartLock @learningspy

#ukedchat - so sweet > Still waiting for that pint!20:35:25

katieogilvie#ukedchat enquiry based learning. Big questions. Don'tprovide the answers.

20:35:33 StuartLock"RT @LearningSpy: @Pekabelo Why would we wantstudents to be independent? What we really mean isnot needy" Yes. #ukedchat

20:35:46 Mat6453who here admits mistakes to the students? i do all thetime. makes it easier for them to accept their mistakes#ukedchat

20:35:48 jackieschneider @MrWickensPE @theewschool - sounds like jargon.What does that mean? :-) #ukedchat

20:35:54 rockhaqRT @te_ach_er: @michelledhillon Loving the idea ofRockhaq. Will have a really good look after #ukedchat

20:35:55 oldandrewuk@JamesTheo @frogphilp #ukedchat Nobody counts.But let's face it, one is too many.

20:35:56 StrictTeacher99RT @katieogilvie: #ukedchat enquiry based learning.Big questions. Dont provide the answers. #ukedchat

20:36 GeogHuntWhat do fellow teachers use their students exercise

books for - how does it reflect the leson? #ukedchat20:36 ethinking RT @EmathsUK: #ukedchat Maybe we should start by


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having teachers who are independent and resilient.Many aren't. Why are there so many downtrodden &wet?

20:36 jamesdhobsonuk

@ethinking Only if they share vision. Too many don't.

#ukedchat. Some are not resilient cos they see nothingin what we do to be worth it

20:36:04 GeographyCarrie@StrictTeacher99 I find setting up #edmodo groupshelp as they enjoy chatting on there after lesson,particularly if linked to #ukedchat

20:36:07 LearningSpy@SpencerAyres How can you write a SoL aboutsomething you have no knowledge of? I couldn't, Youcouldn't, neither could students #ukedchat

20:36:09 ecarsontc

@GeorgeEBlack yes - this is precisely the sort of thing

I see coming out so well on high ropes courses#ukedchat

20:36:15 jamesmichie@ColinGoffin @oldandrewuk @jamesdhobsonukExactly! By the time they leave they should not needme anymore! #ukedchat

20:36:30 ICTEvangelist@jamesdhobsonuk: No politically possible. Ifintervene massively i can improve results. Payrises+lovely numbers all round #ukedchat ?!?!


RT @jamesmichie: Check out my M.Ed research into

Independent Learning: https://t.co/XfhruRE3 #ukedchat#mainedu

20:36:44 BrightAire.@LearningSpy @StuartLock - a cliche to quote TEdison but it's true. Failure is part of the process ofgetting good. #ukedchat #lcclearn21c

20:36:47 SpencerAyres@LearningSpy I've done it and it works incredibly well!They learn what they want, when they want, at thespeed that they need #ukedchat

20:36:48 StuartLockI don't know how scientific Dweck is to be fair. V

appealing though, and good reminders. #ukedchat

20:36:57 MrPHorner@StuartLock and be develop into an equalparticipant/collaborator/problem solver in suchconversations #ukedchat

20:36:59

ColinGoffin@StuartLock Absolutely. Abandoning is not same asdeveloping ind in same way as siting 4 people togetherdoesn't = collaboration #ukedchat

20:36:59

oldandrewuk@jamesmichie @jamesdhobsonuk #ukedchat No. Butif your English teacher is in the room, why wouldn't you

ask?20:37:04 LearningSpy @Mat6453 Who cares about what's EASY? I'm all


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about what's HARD http://t.co/SqjoU1hq #ukedchat

20:37:07 dockers_hoops@Mat6453 Dont all great teachers model thebehaviours they want from their pupils? #ukedchat#nobrainer

20:37:08 MrWickensPE@jackieschneider a curriculum designed around theSwedish Education system that thrives independence.Exciting! #ukedchat

20:37:09

StuartLockAll our Y10 students read Bounce by Matthew Syedand discussed in Form periods this year #ukedchat

20:37:10 primaryforme#ukedchat we use Gem Powers, introduced by Dr TomRobson- Diamond power is ability to know what to dowhen they don't know what to do

20:37:14 BellatrixRoseus

#ukedchat I'm exploring using collaborative/problem

solving tasks to get pupils doing things for themselvesand with others.

20:37:18 lovepookiecatRT @urban_teacher: How true is it! that teachers needto be resilient with ALL their students too!! #ukedchat

20:37:20

creatortimLearners in panic=no learning! shared learning journeyessential so learner can independently move throughthat journey #ukedchat

20:37:25

ethinking#ukedchat @jamesdhobsonuk then learn to be a bettersalesman - or offer something worthwhile

20:37:28

SwayGrantham@SpencerAyres @learningspy my chn helped plan alesson to introduce blogging to chn who have neverdone it... #ukedchat

20:37:30 EmzGeog Teach questions, not the answers #ukedchat

20:37:36 MissionExplore@StrictTeacher99: RT @katieogilvie: #ukedchatenquiry based learning. Big questions. Dont providethe answers. #ukedchat

20:37:37 JamiePortman#ukedchat Perhaps teachers need to identify aheirachy of response re: students 'being stuck'. Is

teacher intervention really necessary?

20:37:38 GeorgeEBlack@Mat6453 #ukedchat I do... I'm an English teacherwho can't spell. Students get a sweet if they spot amistake before me!

20:37:38 susanbanisterMissing #ukedchat again as I am on another train withpoor connectivity!

20:37:44 MiltonSchwarz#ukedchat Most resilient child I ever met was in themost dire of home situations... Amazing learninghabits, genuine thirst to succeed.

20:37:51 Mat6453 @dockers_hoops agree, teachings not an act its abouthonesty #ukedchat


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20:37:53 LearningSpy@SpencerAyres Students learning 'what they want' isa definition of low expectations. What if they want tolearn about Simpsons? #ukedchat


@ICTEvangelist Are you saying this is wrong or you

don't understand?. It is self evident in English secschools #ukedchat

20:37:57 ict_rebelnothing better than having a pants teacher to make astudent independent and resilient #ukedchat

20:37:59

ecarsontc@GeographyCarrie @StrictTeacher99 - So lookingforward to the opportunity of using this in new schoolnext year #ukedchat

20:38:0

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Mat6453RT @GeorgeEBlack: @Mat6453 #ukedchat I do... I'man English teacher who can't spell. Students get a

sweet if they spot a mistake before me!

20:38:04 ICTEvangelist@StrictTeacher99 @EmathsUK good point shouldwe be picking up colleagues on this too? #UKEdChat@ethinking

20:38:08 MrWickensPE@MrPHorner Teachers are responsible for that. I haveseen students be independent and resilient in onelesson, and not in another. #ukedchat

20:38:12

ePaceonline@StrictTeacher99 #ukedchat yes, tweets are archived,you will get a link at end of debate usually

20:38:12

ePaceonline @StrictTeacher99 #ukedchat yes, tweets are archived,you will get a link at end of debate usually

20:38:12

thelazyteacher#ukedchat Fear of failure is a trigger for saying, 'Sir, Iam suck'. Remove fear by allowing and planning morestuck time.

20:38:13 RUloveskiing@Mat6453 I always do. Plus I apologise too, if I madea mistake that affects them. Totally agree, show thestudent responsibility #ukedchat

20:38:15 frogphilp

RT @ict_rebel: nothing better than having a pants

teacher to make a student independent and resilient#ukedchat

20:38:22

LearningSpy@SwayGrantham Yeah, OK - a lesson. NOT a schemeof learning #ukedchat

20:38:23

mattpearsonRT @MiltonSchwarz: #ukedchat Most resilient child Iever met was in the most dire of home situations...

Amazing learning habits. #ukedchat

20:38:29

SpencerAyres@LearningSpy So what do you do.?you find out, sowhat do they do...they find out! Self directed,

independant leading of learning! #ukedchat20:38:30 MissionExplore @LearningSpy: @SpencerAyres How can you write a


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SoL about something you have no knowledge of?#ukedchat through joint enquiry..

20:38:30 KDWScience@dockers_hoops @mat6453 #ukedchat you'd thinkbut not always the case

20:38:31 sfrench21 @GeogHunt #ukedchat As a Maths teacher, is purelyfor working outs

20:38:50 jackieschneider@StuartLock - great work! #ukedchat every schoolshould force teachers to read Bounce as well

20:38:51 nicoladarling78@SheliBB a simple thing to continue and support theirindependence with. It's about time and fitting it all in forme at the mo #ukedchat

20:38:52

ICTEvangelist@LearningSpy @ecarsontc @StuartLock me too!!#ukedchat #pintchat

20:38:57 urban_teacherA formula for resilient teachers: Positive words +Positive Thoughts + Positive Actions = Positive Results#ukedchat

20:39:01

ICTEvangelistRT @Mat6453: who here admits mistakes to thestudents? i do all the time. makes it easier for them toaccept their mistakes #ukedchat

20:39:02

digitaldaisies@ICTEvangelist: @jamesdhobsonuk just stop it?#UKEdChat>not v helpful when up against demands 4results, tricky to negotiate the two

20:39:24

LearningSpy @SpencerAyres This *seems* like well-intentionednonsense. #ukedchat

20:39:25

mattpearsonresilience means very real chance of failure, but withhigh stakes testing across the ed. system, thetemptation is to play safe #ukedchat

20:39:25

StrictTeacher99@ICTEvangelist some teachers seem to be thehardest to change in terms of attitude! #ukedchat

20:39:28

helenm54RT @dockers_hoops: Sports is a very good exampleto build resilient learners. Show them this video...

#ukedchat http://t.co/9dY6xzUS20:39:28

lovepookiecatRT @urban_teacher: A formula for resilient teachers:Positive words + Positive Thoughts + Positive Actions= Positive Results #ukedchat

20:39:39

MrPHorner@thelazyteacher and "stuck" must not trigger servingup of "flat pack" solution from teacher #ukedchat

20:39:40

nicoladarling78RT @thelazyteacher: #ukedchat Fear of failure is atrigger for saying, 'Sir, I am suck'. Remove fear byallowing and planning more stuck time.

20:39:43 ICTEvangelist @jamesdhobsonuk it is apparent in many, yes#UKEdChat


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20:39:50

JamesTheo@SpencerAyres @LearningSpy Do you have a SOWthat your pupils have written that you could share?#ukedchat

20:39:56 LearningSpy

@MissionExplore Which has laughably low effect

sizes. Evidenced based practice must come first#ukedchat

20:39:57

MrWickensPE@thelazyteacher This time will provide opportunities tobecome unstuck rather than the teacher racing throughthe problem. #ukedchat

20:40:01 sfrench21I find group work often encourages resilience - we usethe "5 C's" for structure #ukedchat

20:40:05 ecarsontc@ICTEvangelist @LearningSpy @StuartLock#ukedchat - brilliant a #ukedchat tweetup

20:40:05 StrictTeacher99RT @ICTEvangelist: RT @Mat6453: who admitsmistakes2 students? i do all the time. makes it easier4 them to accept their mistakes #ukedchat

20:40:08 ethinking #ukedchat @creatortim therapeutic nonsense

20:40:12

ICTEvangelist@digitaldaisies @jamesdhobsonuk true! Structure?#UKEdChat

20:40:16 jamesmichie@oldandrewuk @jamesdhobsonuk True but my answris 2 create friction by saying no. Then remind them ofthe tools at their disposal. #ukedchat

20:40:20

HThompson1982@JamiePortman I found using red,amber green cupstrategy helped with developing independence. Onlyturn to red if can't do work.. #ukedchat

20:40:21

StuartLock"RT @mattpearson: high stakes testing across the ed.system, the temptation is to play safe" Spot on#ukedchat

20:40:33 ColinGoffin@StuartLock Not sure I care about scientific.Sometimes people get too hung up on that to have ago and see what works for them #ukedchat

20:40:33 traceyab1Under half hour to #DLchat straight after #ukedchat.Join me and share your DL news or be inspired to startusing Digital Leaders in yr sch

20:40:35 Tech_Stories@StrictTeacher99 @EmathsUK #ukedchat But is thistheir fault or result of negative culture where teachersaren't encouraged to take risks?

20:40:39

frogphilp@jackieschneider @StuartLock Forcing teachers to dothings reduces their independence and thereforeindependence of their childn. #ukedchat

20:40:42 dringl01 @Mat6453 #ukedchat I do - lead by example. I thinkit's good for them to see me acknowledge my mistakes


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including making apologies

20:40:49

Teachertrying@JOHNSAYERS #ukedchat sounds brill. All for solothinking! DM me more details when you have time.Love working with solo taxonomy

20:40:54 sfrench21@GeogHunt this year we've made revision cards aswe go along & they keep in their folder. Good to getthem to do as a plenary #ukedchat

20:40:54 digitaldaisies@ICTEvangelist: @jamesdhobsonuk just stop it?#UKEdChat maybe taking small steps to begin with,perhaps we cld come up with some of those

20:40:54 StrictTeacher99 @sfrench21 what are the 5 c's? #ukedchat

20:41:09

SpencerAyres @SwayGrantham Fantastic! I love it! #ukedchat

20:41:16 jackieschneider @frogphilp @stuartlock - was joking! #ukedchat

20:41:17 ecarsontc@StrictTeacher99 @ICTEvangelist @Mat6453 SOCRUCIAL - how can we not? #ukedchat

20:41:18 ICTEvangelistRT @StuartLock: All our Y10 students read Bounce byMatthew Syed and discussed in Form periods this year#ukedchat

20:41:19

creatortimSuccess & failure key to essential growth & repair oflearning muscles - getting stuck is seen as a greatlearning opp!. #ukedchat

20:41:24

Mat6453 @nicoladarling78 @GeorgeEBlack yeah, i agree, itmakes teachers huma #ukedchat

20:41:24

ePaceonline@dockers_hoops #ukedchat, seen this happen somany times. Give thinking time before diving in!

20:41:25

urban_teacherStudents need compassion especially when they don'tdeserve it. - Urban Teacher #ukedchat #resilient

20:41:30 LearningSpy @Pekabelo Yes. What's your point? #ukedchat

20:41:36 StuartLock@frogphilp Got some time for that. Teachers often nottrusted enough. #ukedchat

20:41:41 lovepookiecatRT @urban_teacher: Students need compassionespecially when they don't deserve it. - Urban Teacher#ukedchat #resilient

20:41:48 LearningSpy @JamesTheo OOh. That's polite. Well done #ukedchat

20:41:50 KDWScience @dringl01 @mat6453 #ukedchat totally agree

20:41:53 Tech_Stories@jamesmichie @oldandrewuk @jamesdhobsonuk#ukedchat These issues are important to employerssee what @google has to say http://t.co/iaktS7q5

20:41:55 jackieschneider @MrWickensPE - interesting! #ukedchat

20:42:02

oldandrewuk @jamesmichie @jamesdhobsonuk #ukedchat So?Medical treatment is a stage and maintaining good


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health a lifelong task. Still go to a doctor.

20:42:16

MrWickensPE@ethinking @jackieschneider you can embed that withstudents. Students start secondary with these skills,they just loose them #ukedchat

20:42:20

MissionExplore @LearningSpy there is plenty of room for a mixture oftheories, practices and evidence bases. #ukedchat

20:42:22

HThompson1982@JamiePortman ... They worked without support onyellow.. If necessary I seated red/ yell with green cupstudents who helped. #ukedchat

20:42:27

nicoladarling78#ukedchat Traffic light fans on table. Peers on tablesupport. Red = HELP! Amber = I am trying. Green = allOK! Others help if able. C3B4ME!

20:42:27 MichelleDhillon

RT @MiltonSchwarz: #ukedchat Most resilient child I

ever met was in the most dire of home situations...Amazing learning habits, genuine thirst to succeed.

20:42:28

StrictTeacher99@urban_teacher Students need compassionespecially when they don't deserve it. - Urban Teacher#ukedchat #resilient - #ukedchat

20:42:29

Jo_Bowers@MiltonSchwarz: What... No objective? Creativeapproaches to literacy teaching http://t.co/3Z8na5tK#ukedchat - I love this blog

20:42:36 MissKMcD

@SheliBB @peterspencer88 @jamesmichie

@stuartlock @geographycarrie can you tell me moreabout your 'why box' please? #ukedchat

20:42:39

janewaiteseeing teachers survive mistakes/problems at schoolmight mean they believe they can survive their ownproblems in real life? #ukedchat

20:42:40

Teachertrying@Mat6453 #ukedchat me too and I very very muchagree! Mistakes are the path to success if we learn bythem

20:42:4

1 ICTEvangelist

RT @thelazyteacher: #ukedchat Fear of failure is a

trigger for saying, 'Sir, I am suck'. Remove fear byallowing and planning more stuck time.

20:42:45

thelazyteacher#ukedchat Not a league table but ask students as theyleave school how many times they have been stucktoday, what would be a good score?

20:42:48

nicoladarling78@HThompson1982 @JamiePortman ooooo how doesthe cup strategy work? #ukedchat

20:42:48

MiltonSchwarz#ukedchat We need to foster a climate in which eachchild is on their own personal learning journey. Here's

the prompt, how will u respond?20:42:5 Mad_teach #ukedchat I've started using where's wally with my y1s.


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Independent Learning: https://t.co/XfhruRE3 #ukedchat#mainedu

20:43:38 ecarsontcflippin... 15 mins left of #ukedchat - how does that hralways go so fast?

20:43:38 ecarsontc flippin... 15 mins left of #ukedchat - how does that hralways go so fast?

20:43:41 GeorgeEBlack#ukedchat not sure if this relevant, but each class hasa board in my room to pin revision stuff and things, it isup to them what.

20:43:41 GeorgeEBlack#ukedchat not sure if this relevant, but each class hasa board in my room to pin revision stuff and things, it isup to them what.

20:43:43 Mat6453

@Teachertrying yes, the learning from them is key.

pointless to keep doing the same thing again. thatswhat needs teaching #ukedchat

20:43:43 Mat6453@Teachertrying yes, the learning from them is key.pointless to keep doing the same thing again. thatswhat needs teaching #ukedchat

20:43:47 StuartLock"RT@thelazyteacher: Ask students as they leaveschool how many times they have been stuck today,what would be a good score?" Like #ukedchat

20:43:47 StuartLock

"RT@thelazyteacher: Ask students as they leave

school how many times they have been stuck today,what would be a good score?" Like #ukedchat

20:43:51 corneronrye@ePaceonline @dockers_hoops Agreed. We have to

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