Why we should think of quantum probabilities as Bayesian probabilities

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Why we should think of quantum probabilities as Bayesian probabilities Carlton M. Caves C. M. Caves, C. A. Fuchs, R. Schack, “Subjective probability and quantum certainty,” in preparation. Department of Physics and Astronomy University of New Mexico [email protected] http://info.phys.unm.edu/~caves Maxent 2006 Paris Because facts never determine (nontrivial) probabilities or quantum states.

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Why we should think of quantum probabilities as Bayesian probabilities

Carlton M. CavesC. M. Caves, C. A. Fuchs, R. Schack, “Subjective probability and quantum certainty,” in preparation.

Department of Physics and AstronomyUniversity of New Mexico

[email protected]://info.phys.unm.edu/~caves

Maxent 2006Paris

Because facts never determine (nontrivial) probabilities or quantum states.

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Subjective Bayesian probabilities

Facts

Outcomes of eventsTruth values of propositions

Objective

Probabilities

Agent’s degree of belief

in outcome of an event or

truth of a proposition

SubjectiveCategory distinction

Facts never imply nontrivial probabilities (0 < Prob < 1).

Two agents in possession of the same facts can assign different

probabilities.

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Subjective Bayesian probabilities

Probabilities

Agent’s degree of belief in outcome of an event or truth of a proposition.

Consequence of ignorance

Agent’s betting odds

Subjective

Rules for manipulating probabilities are objective consequences of consistent

betting behavior (Dutch book).

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Subjective Bayesian probabilities

Facts in the form of observed data d are used to update probabilities via

Bayes’s rule:

posterior

prior

conditional (model, likelihood)

The posterior always depends on prior beliefs, except when d logically

implies h0:

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QM: Derivation of quantum probability rule from infinite frequencies?

Objective probabilities ● Logical probabilities (objective Bayesian): symmetry implies probability

● Probabilities as frequencies: facts from verification

● Objective chance: specification from facts

■ Symmetries are applied to judgments, not to facts.

■ Bigger sample space; exchangeability.■ Frequencies are facts, not probabilities.

■ Some probabilities are ignorance probabilities, but others are specified by the facts of a “chance situation.”■ Specification of “chance situation”: same, but different.

objective chance

QM: Probabilities from physical law. Salvation of objective chance?

C. M. Caves,R. Schack, ``Properties of the frequency operator do not imply the quantum probability postulate,'' Annals of Physics 315, 123--146 (2005) [Corrigendum: 321, 504--505 (2006)].

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Classical (realistic, deterministic) world

Quantum world

State spaceSimplex of probabilities for

microstates Convex set of density operators

StateExtreme point

MicrostateEnsemble

Extreme point

Pure state

State vector

Ensemble

Mixed state

Density operator

Objective Subjective Objective Subjective

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Certainty:

Classical (realistic, deterministic) world

Quantum world

State spaceSimplex of probabilities for

microstates Convex set of density operators

StateExtreme point

MicrostateEnsemble

Extreme point

Pure state

State vector

Ensemble

Mixed state

Density operator

Fine-grained measurement

Certainty ProbabilitiesCertainty or

ProbabilitiesProbabilities

Objective Subjective Objective Subjective

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Whom do you ask for the system state? The system or an agent?

Classical (realistic, deterministic) world

Quantum world

State spaceSimplex of probabilities for

microstates Convex set of density operators

StateExtreme point

MicrostateEnsemble

Extreme point

Pure state

State vector

Ensemble

Mixed state

Density operator

Verification:

state determinationYes No No No

Objective Subjective Ubjective Subjective

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Classical (realistic, deterministic) world

Quantum world

State spaceSimplex of probabilities for

microstates Convex set of density operators

StateExtreme point

MicrostateEnsemble

Extreme point

Pure state

State vector

Ensemble

Mixed state

Density operator

State change on measurement

No Yes Yes Yes

State-vector reduction or wave-function collapse

Real physical disturbance?

Objective Subjective Objective Subjective

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Classical (realistic, deterministic) world

Quantum world

State spaceSimplex of probabilities for

microstates Convex set of density operators

StateExtreme point

MicrostateEnsemble

Extreme point

Pure state

State vector

Ensemble

Mixed state

Density operator

Uniqueness of ensembles

Yes No No No

Objective Subjective Ubjective Subjective

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Classical (realistic, deterministic) world

Quantum world

State spaceSimplex of probabilities for

microstates Convex set of density operators

StateExtreme point

MicrostateEnsemble

Extreme point

Pure state

State vector

Ensemble

Mixed state

Density operator

Nonlocal state change

No Yes Yes Yes

Objective Subjective Subjective Subjective

Real nonlocal physical

disturbance?

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Classical (realistic, deterministic) world

Quantum world

State spaceSimplex of probabilities for

microstates Convex set of density operators

StateExtreme point

MicrostateEnsemble

Extreme point

Pure state

State vector

Ensemble

Mixed state

Density operator

Specification:

state preparationYes No Copenhagen: Yes Copenhagen: Yes

Copenhagen interpretation:

Classical facts specifying the properties of the preparation device

determine a pure state.

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Copenhagen

Classical (realistic, deterministic) world

Quantum world

State spaceSimplex of probabilities for

microstates Convex set of density operators

StateExtreme point

MicrostateEnsemble

Extreme point

Pure state

State vector

Ensemble

Mixed state

Density operator

Fine-grained measurement

Certainty ProbabilitiesCertainty or

ProbabilitiesProbabilities

Verification:

state determinationYes No No No

State change on measurement

No Yes Yes Yes

Uniqueness of ensembles

Yes No No No

Nonlocal state change

No Yes Yes Yes

Specification:

state preparationYes No Yes Yes

Objective Subjective Objective Objective

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Classical and quantum updating Facts in the form of

observed data d are used to update probabilities

via Bayes’s rule:

posterior

prior

conditional (model, likelihood)

The posterior always depends on prior beliefs, except when d logically

implies h0: The posterior state always depends on prior beliefs, even for

quantum state preparation, because there is a judgment

involved in assigning the quantum operation.

Facts in the form of observed data d are used

to update quantum states:

posterior

prior

quantum operation (model)

Quantum state preparation:

Facts never determine (nontrivial) probabilities or

quantum states.

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Where does Copenhagen go wrong?

The Copenhagen interpretation forgets that the preparation device is quantum

mechanical. A detailed description of the device involves prior judgments in the form of

quantum state assignments.

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Subjective Bayesian

Classical (realistic, deterministic) world

Quantum world

State spaceSimplex of probabilities for

microstates Convex set of density operators

StateExtreme point

MicrostateEnsemble

Extreme point

Pure state

State vector

Ensemble

Mixed state

Density operator

Fine-grained measurement

Certainty ProbabilitiesCertainty or

ProbabilitiesProbabilities

Verification:

state determinationYes No No No

State change on measurement

No Yes Yes Yes

Uniqueness of ensembles

Yes No No No

Nonlocal state change

No Yes Yes Yes

Specification:

state preparationYes No No No

Objective Subjective Subjective Subjective

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Is a quantum coin toss more random than a classical one?

Why trust a quantum random generator over a classical one?

quantum coin toss

Measure spin along z axis: Measure spin along x axis:

Classical (realistic, deterministic) world

Quantum world

State spaceSimplex of probabilities for

microstates Convex set of density operators

StateExtreme point

MicrostateEnsemble

Extreme point

Pure state

State vector

Ensemble

Mixed state

Density operator

Fine-grained measurement

Certainty ProbabilitiesCertainty or

ProbabilitiesProbabilities

C. M. Caves, R. Schack, “Quantum randomness,” in preparation.

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Is a quantum coin toss more random than a classical one?

Why trust a quantum random generator over a classical one?

quantum coin toss

Measure spin along z axis: Measure spin along x axis:

Standard answer: The quantum coin toss is objective, with probabilities guaranteed by physical law.

Subjective Bayesian answer? No inside information

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Inside information

Party B has inside information about event E, relative to party A, if A is willing to agree to a bet on E that B believes to be a sure win.

The unique situation in which no other party with compatible beliefs has inside information relative to A is when A assigns a pure state quantum mechanically or certainty for one atomic alternative classically.

Subjective Bayesian answerWe trust quantum over classical coin tossing because one can never rule out an insider attack on classical coin tossing, whereas an insider attack on a quantum coin toss based on a pure state is inconsistent with the beliefs that led to the pure-state assignment.

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Ontology of quantum mechanicsCMC only

Quantum systems are defined by attributes, such as position, momentum, angular momentum, and energy or Hamiltonian. These attributes are objectively real—not the values of the attributes or the quantum states that we use to describe the system, but the attributes themselves.