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Where Do We Go From Here: Risk Management after the Financial Meltdown Kevin McCabe Wells Fargo Audit Services EVP & Chief Auditor FIRMA 24 th National Risk Management Training Conference March 29, 2010 © 2010 Wells Fargo & Co All rights reserved.

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Where Do We Go From Here:Risk Management after the Financial Meltdown

Kevin McCabeWells Fargo Audit Services

EVP & Chief Auditor

FIRMA

24th National Risk Management Training Conference

March 29, 2010

© 2010 Wells Fargo & Co All rights reserved.

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How Did We Get Here??

Everyone contributed:

Government – Legislation, Regulators, Activists …

Financial Institutions – Mortgage Brokers, Bank Lenders, Securitizations, Portfolio Managers, Pension Plans, Shadow Banks (GMAC, AIG, ) …

Oversight Groups – Boards, Audit Committees, Risk Managers, Internal Auditors, External Auditors …

Home Owners – trading up, leveraging, lying …

So what is going to be done about it?

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Legislation, Regulation, etc.

Very likely governments will propose new regulations, more firewalls, restrictions, taxes and penalties on Financial Institutions

Impact on us: New requirements will come in the form of ‘new’ interpretations rather than many new regulations.

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New Regulator Standards for Banks

FRB SR 09-1 Market Risk Rule in BHC’s

FRB SR 08-8 Compliance Risk Management Programs and

Oversight at Large Banking Organizations with Complex Compliance Profiles

SEC New Risk Management Disclosure Rules

Basel II (and coming soon III)

Senior Supervisor Group Surveys & Action Plans

What do these have in common?

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Enterprise Risk Management

All recent regulations have pushed for enhanced enterprise risk management that has: Corporate Head of Risk

Corporate body that sets Policy, Risk Appetite, Provides Oversight, Escalation, and Reporting to the Board

Business Line Procedures, Execution, Monitoring, Training, and Reporting

Independent Testing and Reporting

In short, you need an effective ERM Framework

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Many theoretical models to choose from -- COSO ERM being the most accepted in the USA

Choose an implementation that can accommodate your need to roll-up based upon Business line, Country, Legal entity and Unique risks (Basel uses only Credit, Market, and Operational)

Wells Fargo’s ERM framework has four essential roles and responsibilities

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Enterprise Risk Management

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ERM Framework

Cultural Goal: Promote effective risk management - characterized by Accountability, Transparency, Efficiency, and Proactive Issue Identification, Disclosure, and Remediation - through clear delineation and execution of KEY ROLES & RESPONSIBILITIES.

Board of Directors

Enterprise Risk Management Committee

POLICY & OVERSIGHT

RISK MGMT EXECUTION

INDEPENDENT ASSESSMENT

Set overall business strategy, structure, and risk appetite

STRATEGY

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ERM Framework

CERM

Board of Directors

Enterprise Risk Management Committee

POLICY & OVERSIGHT

RISK MGMT EXECUTION

INDEPENDENT ASSESSMENT

Cultural Goal: Promote effective risk management - characterized by Accountability, Transparency, Efficiency, and Proactive Issue Identification, Disclosure, and Remediation - through clear delineation and execution of KEY ROLES & RESPONSIBILITIES.

Lead emerging risk identification & assessment,

policy formulation/change management, & regulatory

relations

Set overall business strategy, structure, and risk appetite

Provide ongoing oversight of risk LOB programs

STRATEGY

Corporate ERMLead the effort and set the Policy for every Line of Business (LOB)

Once set up CERM should lead on emerging risks and provide Oversight.

CERM should have good working relationships with the Regulators

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ERM Framework

LOB Risk Mgmt. Programs (GCORMS & Business Program Managers)

CERM

Ongoing proactive self-assessment, disclosure, & issue remediation

Inform & influence independent testing

Board of Directors

Enterprise Risk Management Committee

LOB self-reporting re: state of program and

state of risk mgmt

POLICY & OVERSIGHT

RISK MGMT EXECUTION

INDEPENDENT ASSESSMENT

Cultural Goal: Promote effective risk management - characterized by Accountability, Transparency, Efficiency, and Proactive Issue Identification, Disclosure, and Remediation - through clear delineation and execution of KEY ROLES & RESPONSIBILITIES.

Lead emerging risk identification & assessment,

policy formulation/change management, & regulatory

relations

Set overall business strategy, structure, and risk appetite

Inform & influence policy

Provide ongoing oversight of risk LOB programs

STRATEGY

Line of Business (LOB) to develop Procedures to meet Policy (should influence future policy changes and audit scopes) and then proactively monitor and report status to CERM.

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ERM Framework

LOB Risk Mgmt. Programs (GCORMS & Business Program Managers)

WFASCERMInform & influence plan,

scope, and script of independent testing

Advise, influence, & evaluate policy design & oversight processes

Provide assurance re: program integrity/effectiveness

Ongoing proactive self-assessment, disclosure, & issue remediation

Inform & influence independent testing

Test & validate program integrity/effectiveness to support leverage

Board of Directors

Enterprise Risk Management Committee

LOB self-reporting re: state of program and

state of risk mgmt

POLICY & OVERSIGHT

RISK MGMT EXECUTION

INDEPENDENT ASSESSMENT

Cultural Goal: Promote effective risk management - characterized by Accountability, Transparency, Efficiency, and Proactive Issue Identification, Disclosure, and Remediation - through clear delineation and execution of KEY ROLES & RESPONSIBILITIES.

Lead emerging risk identification & assessment,

policy formulation/change management, & regulatory

relations

Set overall business strategy, structure, and risk appetite

Inform & influence policy

Provide ongoing oversight of risk LOB programs

Advise & influence control design

Leverage independent testing for program

oversight needs

STRATEGY

Corporate Audit (WFAS) performs independent testing but should leverage work done by LOB control groups.

Audit should also ‘advise’ on control design.

Strong Audit groups should test risk management processes, not just test controls

Audit should influence CERM policy & design

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ERM Framework

LOB Risk Mgmt. Programs (GCORMS & Business Program Managers)

WFASCERMInform & influence plan,

scope, and script of independent testing

Advise, influence, & evaluate policy design & oversight processes

Provide assurance re: program integrity/effectiveness

Ongoing proactive self-assessment, disclosure, & issue remediation

Inform & influence independent testing

Test & validate program integrity/effectiveness to support leverage

Board of Directors

Enterprise Risk Management Committee

Coordinated risk reporting

LOB self-reporting re: state of program and

state of risk mgmt

Enterprise risk aggregation, trending & assessment & reporting re: state of

programs & risk management

Independent assurance re: enterprise risk assessment & program integrity/effectiveness

POLICY & OVERSIGHT

RISK MGMT EXECUTION

INDEPENDENT ASSESSMENT

Cultural Goal: Promote effective risk management - characterized by Accountability, Transparency, Efficiency, and Proactive Issue Identification, Disclosure, and Remediation - through clear delineation and execution of KEY ROLES & RESPONSIBILITIES.

Lead emerging risk identification & assessment,

policy formulation/change management, & regulatory

relations

Set overall business strategy, structure, and risk appetite

Inform & influence policy

Provide ongoing oversight of risk LOB programs

Advise & influence control design

Leverage independent testing for program

oversight needs

STRATEGY

CERM and Audit should both report quarterly to Senior Management and the Board on the state of controls, issues, trends, etc.

Longer term a joint report would be best!

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ERM Framework

LOB Risk Mgmt. Programs (GCORMS & Business Program Managers)

WFASCERMInform & influence plan,

scope, and script of independent testing

Advise, influence, & evaluate policy design & oversight processes

Provide assurance re: program integrity/effectiveness

Ongoing proactive self-assessment, disclosure, & issue remediation

Inform & influence independent testing

Test & validate program integrity/effectiveness to support leverage

Board of Directors

Enterprise Risk Management Committee

Coordinated risk reporting

LOB self-reporting re: state of program and

state of risk mgmt

Enterprise risk aggregation, trending & assessment & reporting re: state of

programs & risk management

Independent assurance re: enterprise risk assessment & program integrity/effectiveness

POLICY & OVERSIGHT

RISK MGMT EXECUTION

INDEPENDENT ASSESSMENT

Cultural Goal: Promote effective risk management - characterized by Accountability, Transparency, Efficiency, and Proactive Issue Identification, Disclosure, and Remediation - through clear delineation and execution of KEY ROLES & RESPONSIBILITIES.

Lead emerging risk identification & assessment,

policy formulation/change management, & regulatory

relations

Set overall business strategy, structure, and risk appetite

Inform & influence policy

Provide ongoing oversight of risk LOB programs

Advise & influence control design

Leverage independent testing for program

oversight needs

Systematic

Timely

Transparent

Credible

Verifiable

STRATEGY

Every process should meet some predetermined minimum standards.

WFC has chosen Systematic, Transparent, Credible, Verifiable and Timely as our standards.

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ERM Framework

LOB Risk Mgmt. Programs (GCORMS & Business Program Managers)

WFASCERMInform & influence plan,

scope, and script of independent testing

Advise, influence, & evaluate policy design & oversight processes

Provide assurance re: program integrity/effectiveness

Ongoing proactive self-assessment, disclosure, & issue remediation

Inform & influence independent testing

Test & validate program integrity/effectiveness to support leverage

Board of Directors

Enterprise Risk Management Committee

Coordinated risk reporting

LOB self-reporting re: state of program and

state of risk mgmt

Enterprise risk aggregation, trending & assessment & reporting re: state of

programs & risk management

Independent assurance re: enterprise risk assessment & program integrity/effectiveness

POLICY & OVERSIGHT

RISK MGMT EXECUTION

INDEPENDENT ASSESSMENT

Cultural Goal: Promote effective risk management - characterized by Accountability, Transparency, Efficiency, and Proactive Issue Identification, Disclosure, and Remediation - through clear delineation and execution of KEY ROLES & RESPONSIBILITIES.

Lead emerging risk identification & assessment,

policy formulation/change management, & regulatory

relations

Set overall business strategy, structure, and risk appetite

Inform & influence policy

Provide ongoing oversight of risk LOB programs

Advise & influence control design

Leverage independent testing for program

oversight needs

Systematic

Timely

Transparent

Credible

Verifiable

STRATEGY

WF Legal Group

Advise & influencepolicy

Advise & advocate re:risk mgmt. execution

Corporate Legal has an advisory and advocacy role as well.

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ERM Framework

WF Legal Group

LOB Risk Mgmt. Programs (GCORMS & Business Program Managers)

WFASCERMInform & influence plan,

scope, and script of independent testing

Advise, influence, & evaluate policy design & oversight processes

Provide assurance re: program integrity/effectiveness

Ongoing proactive self-assessment, disclosure, & issue remediation

Inform & influence independent testing

Test & validate program integrity/effectiveness to support leverage

Board of Directors

Enterprise Risk Management Committee

Coordinated risk reporting

LOB self-reporting re: state of program and

state of risk mgmt

Enterprise risk aggregation, trending & assessment & reporting re: state of

programs & risk management

Independent assurance re: enterprise risk assessment & program integrity/effectiveness

POLICY & OVERSIGHT

RISK MGMT EXECUTION

INDEPENDENT ASSESSMENT

Cultural Goal: Promote effective risk management - characterized by Accountability, Transparency, Efficiency, and Proactive Issue Identification, Disclosure, and Remediation - through clear delineation and execution of KEY ROLES & RESPONSIBILITIES.

Lead emerging risk identification & assessment,

policy formulation/change management, & regulatory

relations

Set overall business strategy, structure, and risk appetite

Inform & influence policy

Provide ongoing oversight of risk LOB programs

Advise & influence control design

Leverage independent testing for program

oversight needs

Systematic

Timely

Transparent

Credible

Verifiable

STRATEGY

Advise & influencepolicy

Advise & advocate re:risk mgmt. execution

Overall this looks complex but it can work to meet every type of risk to which WFC has applied the model.

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Evolution of the ERM framework at WFC ERM framework built to address new regulatory

expectations and requirements

“Need for speed” resulted in overlapping roles and duplicated efforts (“Risk management at the Federal, state, county, and local levels”)

Once built (and regulatory requirements met), focused on the opportunity and need to be both more effective (role clarity and no gaps) and more efficient (do things once and well)

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Coordination with Internal Audit

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Risk Management and Internal Audit need to work together for either to be considered Strong

Each can work independently, perhaps even competitively, to achieve their mission

But if they are not coordinated and working together the costs will be high and the effectiveness will be low

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WFAS Success Model

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Expand WFAS’s

Capabilities

Strengthen WFAS’s Fundamentals

Partner with

Governance and Risk

Management Structure

Strong

Good

Satisfactory

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Conclusion

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There are many causes to the last ‘Great Recession’ and there will be many short term ‘fixes’

But longer term the right solution will be fulfilling the long-held goal of effective ERM

Find a model that works and is effective for your company and culture

Ensure coordination across all control groups

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Questions?

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