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UNHOLY HANDS ON THE BIBLE!

HENRY FEINBERG PROGRAMFriday, June 14, 1996

UNHOLY HANDS ON THE BIBLEGuest: Judy Pinalto

(Spelling of proper names in this transcript is phonetic and maybe in error, ed.)

Transcript from audio tape by Chey Simonton

HF: My guest for the first hour of the show is Judy Pinalto. She resides inScottsdale, Arizona with her husband, Bill, and two grown children, Cindy and Bill. Bill and Judy have for many years been active in biblically based resourceministries for home-educating families. They have also successfully instructedtheir children at home. Judy, welcome to the show.

JP: Thank you. It's nice to be here today.

HF: We're going to talk about an interesting subject today, Unholy Hands on theBible. Judy, what is modernism?

JP: Modernism is the term that has been used for the very liberal swing inChristianity here in the twentieth century. What we will find as we go through thishour is that we can link this back to guests you have had before, I understand youhave a very knowledgeable listenership on this issue of the Bible conspiracy. Themodernists, I believe, are just another out-shoot of that Westcott and Hort groupat the end of the 1800s who were looking to produce a new Bible, a new God, anew theology. I have a quote here to share with you in just a few minutes,whenever you want to get started.

HF: What are the New Evangelicals?

JP: The New Evangelicals were supposed to the middle-of-the-roaders. Probablythe best descriptive word for them is "the compromisers" because what theyattempted to do in the 1940s was to bridge the gap between traditionalfundamentalist Christianity and liberal modernism. They were going to be themiddle-of-the-roaders and try to find a way to bring the two back together. Ofcourse, as we know from the scriptures, whenever someone attempts tocompromise, the only thing that happens is that you start going down the chutes. The key theological doctrine they threw into the toilet in order to put the NewEvangelical movement together was God's doctrine on separation, that God'speople were not to be unequally yoked with the world. That is the key thing thatreally describes the New Evangey and that whole gang back in the 1800s and AnnieBesant and her masonic ties, all this liberalism started working it's way throughthese corrupt Bible versions which are based on corrupt manuscripts.

I know your listeners already know about these (corrupt Bible versions, ed) that

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are steeped in gnosticism. So, it should come as no surprise when at the turn ofthe century here in America, this stuff's coming over here. In 1924 the mouthpiecefor the modernists, before I explain the New Evangelicals, there was a magazinecalled CHRISTIAN CENTURY. In the January 2, 1924 issue said, and this is really atelling theme for this hour, "Christianity, according to fundamentalism, is onereligion. Christianity according to modernism is another religion. Which is the truereligion is the question that is to be settled in all probability by our generation forfuture generations. There is a clash here as profound and as grim as betweenChristianity and Confucianism. Amiable words cannot hide these differences. Blessed be the Tie may be sung until doomsday, but it cannot bind these worldstogether."

So, the God of the fundamentalist is one God and the God of the modernist isanother. The Bible of fundamentalism is one Bible, the Bible of the modernism isanother. The church, the kingdom, the consummation of all things...these are onething to the fundamentalists and another thing to the modernists.

Now comes along Dr. Ockenga in the late 1940s. He tells in his own words who andwhat this new social gospel is going to entail. He tells us that it has sixcomponents.

First, there is the National Association of Evangelicals, the NAE as we know themtoday, which is going to provide the articulation for the movement.

Second, there is the World Evangelical Fellowship.

Third, there is the new apostolic literature stating this point of view which is nowflowing from the presses of great publishers like MacMillan and Harpers.

Fourth, there is the existence of Fuller Theological Seminary. (They built theirown seminary for this whole thing!)

Fifth, there is the establishment of the magazine, CHRISTIANITY TODAY.

Sixth, there is the appearance of an evangelist, and this is their mouthpiece, BillyGraham, who on the mass level is the spokesman on the convictions and the idealsof the New Evangelicalism.

HF: Okay, Judy, that's quite a lot to digest.

(COMMERCIAL BREAK)

HF: Our guest is Judy Pinalto and we're talking about apostasy in the modernChristian church. Judy, you have named the main mouthpiece for the NewEvangelicals as Billy Graham. Who have been the popularizers of NewEvangelicalism?

JP: Oh, my goodness! There are so many of them that it would take a whole hourjust to name them all so I'll name just a couple to get us started today. The wholeidea from my point of view is to get people thinking. I know your listeners are veryfamiliar with many topics on the coming One World Global System. I also knowthat you've covered the government arm and the economic system that's comingand I'm sure you've gotten into the religious system that is coming. This is reallyabout the religious system that is coming. We've got this really radical positionthat is pushing away from has been biblical Christianity throughout the centuries

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coming into these Last Days of the church age. I believe that Westcott and Hortwere really kicking off these Last Days with beginning to tamper with the Bible. So, there was this wide liberal modernism and now we've got this backlash, thisso-called middle-of-the-road group that is going to try to somehow to bring peaceand order through compromise.

Billy Graham starts off as their number one mouthpiece. Think of some of thepeople that he helped popularize, people like Robert Schuller. He admitted that onthe 1000th anniversary of the Hour of Power, that back in 1969 he was the one whotalked Robert Schuller into starting that program. Of course, he helped foundCHRISTIANITY TODAY. The editor emeritus of that is Dr. Harold Linzell who wrotethat book, THE BATTLE FOR THE BIBLE, with the foreword by the father of thismovement, Dr. Ockenga. Everybody knows about the Billy Graham Crusades, but,not everybody understands that as the years went by and Dr. Graham found himselfmore and more having to be in this compromise position, that he started bringingCatholic counselors into the Crusades so that if a person came up who was of theCatholic faith, for example myself.

I am delivered out of the Catholic faith and I now profess a belief in Jesus Christas my lord and savior. I would not be given over to a Bible believing counselor. There would be Catholic counselors right there to make sure that I stayed in thefaith and I would be ushered over to them to make sure that Billy Graham was notproselytizing against the Catholic Church. So, these compromises began. ThenBilly Graham was very instrumental (he gave $10,000.00) in starting up theInternational Council on Biblical Inerrancy, which we'll talk about a little bit later.

Now, you have got Harold Linzell with this really popular magazine, CHRISTIANITYTODAY, and we learn that Harold Linzell was on the New King James VersionCommittee. He also was a part of the International Council on Biblical Inerrancy. These people who are involved in the social gospel are all sitting on these Biblecommittees.

Who could forget Bill Bright who went to Fuller Theological Seminary, theirinstrument for bringing on this New Evangelicalism in the United States. He leftbefore he graduated and he founded Campus Crusade. Guess what? Here's BillBright now out there doing all this social gospel routine and sitting on theInternational Council for Biblical Inerrancy. The next thing you know, he's also onthe New King James Version Committee! And, as you've probably already told yourlisteners, he's this year's award winner of the Templeton Award, the million dollarNew Age award that Chuck Colson got last year, for his "Humanism"!

So, these are the kinds of guys you are finding, the big speakers out there on thecircuit, who have huge multi-million dollar ministries, and are involved in thiscompromising position; in our politics, in our everyday life, and unbeknownst tomost people, they're also in the background on the modern Bible committees andturning out new Bible versions.

HF: Wow, that's quite something! Certainly, many of us have heard of all of thesepeople. I'm interested in the political movement that is associated with NewEvangelicalism. Jerry Falwell, Pat Robertson... will you talk to us about them?

JP: That's a very interesting side. You've got a very interesting person in thebackground and maybe you've talked about him before, Paul Weyrich. Paul Weyrichis a Roman Catholic and he started the Heritage Foundation. He is one of the

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moneybrokers or powerbrokers through tainted money, the Rockefeller moneysystem, the New World Order gang. He started the Heritage Foundation, andthrough that he also began another group called The Free Congress Foundation. Inthis Free Congress Foundation, this Catholic (Weyrich) is appealing to Protestantpreachers to take back the American culture to traditional values, which is really akick! The Moonies, in the meantime, who are also out there being bigmoney/power brokers and associating in the same circle as Weyrich, are alsoworking on reclaiming the culture!

(Commercial Break)

HF: Paul Weyrich, many of us have heard of him. He did found the HeritageFoundation. I remember getting literature from the Free Congress Foundation. Heis a Roman Catholic and he's calling on Protestant ministers for a Christianizing ofthe culture. An ecumenical move!

JP: That's right! Here comes the ecumenical movement. So, the next thing wesee is the emergence of men; Jerry Falwell and Pat Robertson start climbing on thebandwagon! I've got an article in front of me from Sunday, July 13, 1986 entitled"Religious Coalition Seeks to Establish Biblical Justice". This was in the NEWS &OBSERVER from Raleigh, North Carolina. Here's where it tells about this bigevangelical meeting. I've got all the paperwork on it, including the things they hadto sign, things they claimed they would all believe together. This is the Coalitionon Revival, today we know them as their acronym, COR. The big promoters of thismovement, in the article, are Jerry Falwell and Pat Robertson.

It says right here in the article, "Although primarily evangelical, it includesactivists from other denominations including Roman Catholics".

Then among those listed in leadership in this effort are Dr. D. James Kennedy, Dr.Tim LaHaye, Dr. Rushdoony of Chalcedon, Dr. Jack Van Impe, Dr. Harold Linzell .(remember, he's the editor of CHRISTIANITY TODAY), and Dr. Adrian Rogers thePresident of the Southern Baptist Convention, then, of course, the Director of CORand their magazine CROSSWINDS, Jay Grimstead. Some of these names yourlisteners need to remember because in a little while when we get back to themodern Bible versions, you're going to hear these names pop up again on thetranslating and overview committees.

HF: We're moving towards a point where I want to ask a question. In your opinion,what should be the role of biblically-based Christianity today in America? Shouldwe be utterly unconcerned with the political realm and if it's going to be ungodlylet God judge it and for us to be separate from that? I don't want to be associatedwith men like Paul Weyrich in any way, and yet I am concerned about what ishappening in this nation politically. So, where am I to be as a Bible believingperson? Where should I be politically?

JP: I think that where every Christian has to align themselves is just exactly whereGod says we have to be in the Bible. I know I share your concern and it'ssomething that every Christian who lives in America, who truly loves God, whogrew up loving this country has trouble with it.

God says, "Wherefore, come out from among them and be ye separate." inCorinthians II, 6:17-18, and, "touch not the unclean thing and I will receive youand will be a father unto you and ye shall be my sons and daughters saith the Lord

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Almighty." And He goes on to say in John II, 10-11, "If there come any unto youand bring not this doctrine, receive him not into your house, neither biddeth himGodspeed, for he that biddeth him Godspeed is partaker of his evil deeds."

This is where the social gospel gang from the New Evangelicals flat out said theyreject God's command to be ye separate, and went into the social arena to try tochange the culture, and God forbid us to do it this way! They openly admittedthey were going to do something that God said not to do, and they don't care. Ithink that's the problem with this movement we've got today; theReconstructionists, the Dominion theology gang, and all of these people who aretaking turf for Jesus. It's not biblical. Of course, we care about our country. Ofcourse, we want to stand for righteousness. But, that and fifty cents will get youa cup of coffee if you don't do it the way God says. We don't get to make up therules on how we go about standing for righteousness. That's the problem.

HF: Okay, again, this is something that we wrestle with.

JP: Sure we do. If I wasn't trying to stand up and give a witness and say, 'Comeback to Jesus Christ', or if you have never been, 'Come, there is a better way. Thisis all coming to an end and the world will wax worse.' The Dominionists can standthere till the cows come home and say that we can bring in the millenium withoutthe return of Jesus Christ; but, it flies in the face of the prophetic scriptures!

HF: Yes, indeed it does.

(Commercial Break)

HF: We are talking with Judy Pinalto about "Unholy Hands on the Bible." Havingbuilt this foundation, Judy, will you go to the counterfeit Bibles and the men whosat on these committees and talk on this topic, please?

JP The big problem with these counterfeit Bibles is not only the expunging ofverses but the altering of verses. If you take a look at the backbone of thispolitical movement, this Reconstructionist social gospel; they use from the modernNIV and the New American Standard, out of Matthew 28, they have altered thegreat commission. This is where, I think, one of the great delusion, the greatdeception, has come in. In the modern versions, the corrupt versions, it says thatthe great commission is to, "Therefore, go and make disciples of all nations." Thisis the verse that they use to justify taking turf.

In the King James Bible, the correct translation of that verse is, "Go ye, therefore,and teach all nations."

In other words, the great commission was to preach the gospel; it wasn't to takenumbers, it wasn't to take disciples, it wasn't to take the nations, take turf. Thatis how they have used the modern versions to corrupt the doctrine and to createthis heretical position that is going on today. So, on these Bible Committees aremen who have other agendas.

One of the councils that is worth a whole program in itself is the Council ForNational Policy, the CNP.

HF: Go for it!

JP: Maybe you've had some people on before who've talked about this group.

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HF: Yes.

JP: I'm looking right now at the 1988 list which hasn't changed tremendouslytoday. On this list which is supposed to be the Religious Right and theconservatives who have come together to direct policy. By the way, they will tellyou that although it's a foundation, and under the Freedom of Information Act youcan get their "stuff", if you get in touch with one of these people, they thinkthey're a secret group and no one is supposed to know about them! (chuckle).

Council For National Policy (CNP)

As you look through the old 1988 directory which gives a list of the credits of eachmember sitting on this committee, (this is supposed to be the Religious Right, thegood guys), this is World Enterprise Zones, this is America 2000, this is the GlobalVillage!

We've got members of UNESCO, the World Business Council, the United StatesDept. of Education, the Urban League, the Heritage Foundation, people from theHudson Institute who are very much a part of America 2000.

You've got folks from the Soviet-American Agreement in the 1980s, Paul Weyrichand his second in command, Ed Feulner are sitting on this committee!

The YMCA, the Chamber of Commerce, Moonie front organizations. J. Peter Grace,this guy is not only CFR back in 1988 when he sat on this thing, he also is a majorRoman Catholic, we're talking Knights of Malta-Secret Society-Roman Catholic. Would you believe this guy was Pat Robertson's first boss out of school?

We've got Catholic organizations, we've got Mormons, we've got someone sincefired out of government life, John Sununu.

We've got the 21st Century Group and Coalition of Revival signers sitting on thisthing along with Bill Bright who has been on this International Council on BiblicalInerrancy, the New King James Committee and the 1996 Templeton Award winner.

You've got James Dobson who sat on the New King James Committee, Jerry Falwellwho sat on the New King James Committee, Dr. Ben Hayden who sat on the NewKing James Committee; Dr. James Kennedy who was on the (ICBI) the InternationalCouncil for Biblical Inerrancy and the New King James Version Committee. You'vegot Tim LaHaye who sat on the New King James Committee.

You've got Chris Moore who is the vice president of Thomas Nelson Publishers that'sput out every bible version that's on the market! And Sam Moore, the executiveofficer and president of Thomas Nelson who has put out every bible version on themarket.

We've got Pat Robertson sitting on this thing and Guy Sanders, the former presidentof Gideons.

That's just back in 1988 and we can add a few more guys to that today!Then on the COR (Coalition on Revival) we've got:

Coalition on Revival

Dr. Larry Walter who sat on the NIV and New American Standards committee.

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Dr. Gleason Archer who sat on everything! He's a professor of Old Testament atTrinity Seminary. Dr. Henry Morris from the Institute of Creation Research who isalso a member of COR Dr. Lloyd John Ogilvie, who is a very interesting person. This fellow we can tie to Renovare! Have you heard of that movement?

Renovare

Renovare is a movement that has come about in recent years. It is going back toearly Christian mysticism. And this group is going from church to church doingthese little meditation retreats and the group of guys who have gotten into thisesoteric, pagan, mysticism include:

Ogilvie who sat on the New King James Committee,Jack Hayford,David Hubbard, president of Fuller Theological Seminary,Tony Campolo,J.I. Packer,John Wimber,David and Karen Maines,C. Peter Wagner, just to mention a few.

I'm sure those names ring some bells with your listeners.

HF: Oh, yes they do!

JP: You betcha! Well, back to the New King James Committee we're sitting with:

Rev. Luis Palau andDr. Earl Rademacher,Dr. Adrian Rogers. Remember, he's part of COR, getting that whole thing off theground. He's also the head of the Southern Baptist Convention.

And the list just goes on and on. Of course, needless to say, Dr. Bill Bright, ourTempleton Award-winner.

HF: The Templeton Award, that's from John Templeton, is it not?

JP: Yes.

HF: Judy, during the break I looked up in both King James and the NASB Matthew28:19, "Go therefore and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the nameof the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit."

In order to make a disciple, one must teach. A disciple is a student. Okay? I don'tsee a big problem with that verse. I do see the problem where they draw theconclusion that they have to take turf.

JP: See, that's it! It's how they have chosen to define it because the words "makedisciples" is not as specific as teach. It gives you the leeway to start adding to ortaking from the Word of God. And that's what has happened.

HF: Yes, I definitely see that whole Dominion theology is a real serious problem,post millenialism. They're saying they're going to make the world perfect forChrist and then Jesus will return to this wonderful peace-ridden earth whereeverybody's going to be a Christian, or most nearly everybody, and then they'll set

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up a Kingdom. This, to me, seem so preposterous! I've read a lot of the writingsof Gary North, David Chilton, R.J. Rushdoony, and I don't know where these guysare coming from.

JP: It really is interesting because they have to flat out ignore history in order toget to where they are. There's no other way they can get to this conclusion, andwe're talking about some men with very high IQs. They are not dummies!

HF: Well, actually, the Reconstruction movement is filled with the intellectuals. They add a lot of credence to the Charismatics who joined ranks with them.

JP: Absolutely! This is just what the Bible says, this is the Sadducees and thePharisees of Jesus' time. These guys are so puffed up with their knowledge thatthey're deceived now, just flat out deceived. Their logic and reasoning just defiestruth! They have to absolutely ignore facts to get where they're going!

What's so interesting is that they're not only sitting on the Bible committees,they're in our politics, they're in our everyday social lives. It's just like a web! They're in every aspect of our lives, controlling, directing, shaping.

I didn't go looking for these fellows. My background is education research which iswhere I've been for many, many years. Of course, I've had a radio program now forthe past few years and have really had a tremendous base to learn a lot more, asyou can attest to as a program host. What I found was that when we got into thisAmerica 2000 stuff and we started to figure out what was going on and tried towarn the Christian community, we started getting opposition.

I know I did here in my home state. I found the opposition was coming from thatcalled itself the Religious Right. I called my friends around the country and sureenough, that's where they were finding the same opposition coming from. So, Iwanted to find out who were the guys who were trying to tell me that I don't knowwhat I'm talking about and things like Vouchers and Charter Schools are wonderfulthings and we all ought to be doing it! That's what put me on the trail to find outwho these fellows were.

What's amazing to me, and what I'd like to go into at the end of this program isthat one of the things that has to happen in this ominous religious system thatgoes with this One World Government is somehow, the beast has to get everyone tobow down and worship him. An amazing feat, when you stop and think about it. Where do you go to do this? I'm sure you've had lots of guests who've said the bestplace to go is to go to the schools. Start with children with blank slates and buildfrom there.

Gnosticism

Out of chaos, synthesis. Hegelism. I know your listeners have all heard this. They've destroyed the school system and now they're trying to put it back togetherand they're rebuilding it for this Global Village. One of the things they now wantto put back in the school is Values and Virtues. I just recently saw the bigfoundation production called, "Common Ground". This is the politically correctterm for putting values back into school for the kids. The minute I saw it, it waslike some of my research just clicked in my head.

This is the "wisdom of the Greeks" talked about in the Book of Acts. This is pure

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and blatant gnosticism! It has an interesting twist because it tries to build off theFounding Fathers. But, I have this huge file on freemasonry and the vocabularythey are using to talk about the founding fathers of America, and do some realtwists in these documents, is the vocabulary the Masons use! So, we look at thisstuff and what do we see, gnosticism, secret societies, wisdom of the Greeks,Masons....

Let's go back to the corrupt manuscripts that came out of Egypt. The scholars willattest that in the first three centuries of the early church nothing was coming outof Egypt except gnosticism. No New Testament book has ever been traced toanyplace in Egypt. They came from Asia Minor, the area that is now called theByzantine text area. Nothing came out of Egypt but this nutty gnosticism! Okay,we know that Bishop Demetrius in the 3rd Century tried unsuccessfully to stop it. He had to import manuscripts.

Why? Because what was there was corrupt! Why? Because this was the stuff thatbecame the earliest, oldest and best nonsense that they've been pawning off asthe reasons behind the modern Bible. But, through the years, the core thing thatresearchers have found that links all these things, these secret societies is thatsame old gnosticism. We can track it all the way to the Tower of Babel and rightback to the third chapter of Genesis. Gnosticism is the belief that man can be asGod. That God is in everything! Now, here comes "Common Ground" and it isblatant gnosticism that they want to put into the schools and teach to thechildren. They want to teach the children that they can be as gods. Well, hey,here's the lie!

Here's the value system! Here's the religious system needed for this last days OneWorld Government! What so interesting about it is if you go to the United NationsCharter and all of their treaties on education, they start using the word "virtues". Again, this is a term from the Greek philosophers. And what a surprise, whocomes out with a book, THE BOOK OF VIRTUES? Bill Bennett, a Roman Catholic,educated by the Jesuits. Who does he help run for office in Virginia? MichaelFarris, president of Home School Legal Defense Fund. What do these two guyshave in common? Would you believe these guys are both graduates of Jesuituniversities? Now, again, I was raised Roman Catholic and the biggest laugh Iwould have thought of as a kid would have been for a Baptist kid to tell me that hewas at a Catholic institution getting a degree!

(Commercial Break)

HF: My guest is Judy Pinalto and we're talking about some very interesting things.Judy, let's take one or two phone calls and then wrap it up. We have about fourminutes. Hello caller.

Caller: I would equate this to Dave Hunt's, "SEDUCTION OF CHRISTIANITY" a fewyears ago. Do you have this in a book documenting everything?

JP: No, actually, I was talked into coming out a little bit ahead here. I'm putting itall together right now as a matter of fact.

Caller: Well, I'll sure be looking for it!

JP: Thank you. Our radio ministry does have a catalog, and the Lord willing, whenwe get it done, we'll make it available in the catalog.

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Caller: And you'll let us know how to get this information?

JP: If it's alright with Henry, I certainly will.

Caller: You sound like you've got all your ducks in order, so Godspeed, and we'll seeyou in a year!

HF: Judy, do you want to finish up now?

Williamsburg Charter

JP: Yes, I got into this "Common Ground" and it was pure gnosticism so I looked tosee who were the masterminds behind this stuff, and they say it is the people whoput together the Williamsburg Charter. The Williamsburg Charter, as some mayknow, is a document the Religious Right was palming a few years ago, trying to getthis into the schools saying these are the values we want to send to the kids. It's aWho's Who list (like the CNP) of the "Left" of the Left and supposedly the "Right" ofthe Right. The Left of the Left, in my opinion, are People for the American Way. They signed onto this thing along with Dr. Adrian Rogers and other CNP folks. It's aWho's Who of the most unlikely bedfellows!

Alright, this document pushing gnosticism with language from Masonry got methinking. Again, this is just speculation, just for some fun thinking because I can'tprove it and I don't know anybody who can. You know the old Holy Grail legends? Where they talk about the deity of Christ, that Christ was not God, that there issome chalice hidden someplace that either has his blood in it or, maybe, thetemple documents, the temple treasures including the bloodlines of the Jewishtribes. Hitler tore up Europe looking for this thing! The legends of the Holy Grailare heavily tied to the secret societies, the gnostic belief systems.

There are two major things we know are downgraded in the modern versions (ofthe Bible); the deity of Christ and the blood atonement. If all these guys, whetherthey know it or not, are hooked into a secret movement (I think some of themknow, but a lot of them probably don't) it makes so much sense to me that thereason for the downgrading of the deity of Christ and the blood atonement wouldhave to happen if we're pushing for this gnosticism, being manipulated through thesecret societies and their gnostic beliefs which is what really captured the world,became the Baal worship of the Old Testament, the wisdom of the Greeks in theNew Testament. Satan has used this tool right through history to go after God'splace to try to steal it, which we know he cannot do. But, wouldn't it beinteresting to see if, in fact, someday we find out that this gnostic secret societysystem has been behind the Religious Right, or the people who profess to be; someknowing and some deceived. That ought to be interesting to find out.

HF: Judy, we're just about out of time. Do you have a radio ministry now of yourown?

JP: Yes, it's One-On-One Radio Ministry and your listeners can contact us for acatalog at P.O. Box 13445, Scottsdale, AZ 85267. Again, we don't chargeanything. We operate off freewill donations.

HF: Fantastic, Judy! I really enjoyed the hour. You put a lot out a lot ofinformation. When you do have a book, let us know and I'll tell my audience allabout it.

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JP: Thank you for the opportunity to share the word of God. God Bless you.

July 24, 1996

Judy Pinalto moved from her Scottsdale, Arizona location in mid-July, 1996. She isrelocating to Oregon. This transcript was done from an audio tape provided byKelleigh Nelson. Any errors or omissions are fully my responsibility.

God Bless,Chey Simonton

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