Uncertainty as to effects Mattias Alveteg, Harald Sverdrup.

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Uncertainty as to effects Mattias Alveteg, Harald Sverdrup

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Uncertainty as to effects

Mattias Alveteg, Harald Sverdrup

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Acknowledge uncertainties

Specifying typesof uncertainties

Quantitativeestimates

Understandingpolicy relevance

Unc. managementin decision process Funding

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Uncertainty in singular datavalues/events,”thin air” sensitivity analysis

Assessing uncertainty in structurally complex feedbacksystems of uncertain components

Paradigm shift

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Uncertainty vs Sensitivity

• A sensitivity assessment is relatively simple

• An uncertainty assessment demands detailed knowledge on input uncertainty

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Uncertainty assessment

• Estimating uncertainty range– replicates, spatial heterogeneity, literature, etc.

• Estimating uncertainty distribution– lower pedigree => thicker tails (rectangular?)– bounded/non bounded distributions?

• Estimating interdependencies– ensure consistent input, additional submodels

needed?, move system boundary?

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Site specific unc.

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Changing perspective

• Create one set of input for all sites taking interdependencies into account

• Calculate critical load for all sites => One CDF for the region• Repeat over and over again=>Several independent CDFs for the region• Calculate confidence intervals for the

different percentiles of the region CDF

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Site specific unc.

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Site/percentile specific unc.

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Comments

• Shifting our view from sites to percentiles– makes us more certain about the excedance in

the region– we loose all information on where within the

grid CL is exceeded

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Number of sites?

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Fewer sites = larger uncertainty

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Fewer sites = less representativity

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Thus:

• Increasing the number of sites up to 40-80 sites per grid reduces uncertainty and increases representativity

• Increasing the number of sites increases the 95%-ile exceedance

• Taking uncertainty into account increases the exceedance

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Dynamic uncertainties

• A flexible tool, UNSAFE, has been developed– creates input to dynamic soil chem. models– effective sampling (Latin Hypercube)– option to specify explicit distributions– handles input databases of different quality– is being tested in Switzerland

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Future work or end of the road?

• Most of our work so far has not been funded

• Uncertainty assessment requires substantial funding

• No funding => No future work

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Where do the uncertainties come from ?

Territorialrepresentativtity Scaling

problems

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DepositionN-immobilization

Limit valueWeathering

UptakeFlow rate

DecompositionNitrificationDenitrification

Indicator choiceCatchmentproperties

Organic acids

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