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Is it reasonable to be
religious?
If religion does not exist would God exist? If God
does not exist would religion exist?
01.Sometimes it is better to think; tothinkwhy we should think This is the
disposition of the way of being human
in a world of beings-not-human.
Modern thinking claims that thenature
of being human implies the centrality of
reflective-ability. Rene Descartes for
instance, is pretty assertive of the
indubitablethat we think, therefore we
exist, meaning to say ashumans we are
self-reflective or reason-able.
Alternatively the absence of self-
reflective capability forecloses the
potentiality of being human and
discloses the possibilities not-
sufficiently human. Though to
some/many extent, we as humans are
culturally domesticated/constructed we
are not mere entities devoid of self-
reflective or reason-ability.
02.The term religion does not and cannothave an essential meaning. Religion
means different things to different
people. For some, buying/eating fish on
Friday is a sense of religious identity, for
some going to pilgrim centers is a sense
of being religious, for some others
utterance of a set of words/prayers
repeatedly is a sense of being religious,
for some others (ritual-skillful players)
following/adherence of a set of rules
and regulations is a sense of being
religious, for some others being
theological (attributing specific
meaning) is the way of being religious
(for instance, instead eating fish on
Friday, save the Friday-money forcharity) etc. So, the definition of
religion is that it can have many
definitions and hence cannot be defined
in an essentialist manner.
antiessentialism
03.In this discussion, let me use the termsreligious and having faith as
synonymous. The claim that someone is
religious, I take to mean that s/he claims
to have faith and s/he is a religious
practitioner.
04.My primary concern is to ask: is itreasonable to be religious? To think the
reason for being religious is the concern
here, by which we as self-reflective
humans implore a sense of Faith
seeking understanding rather than
faith seeking faith for faith, cannot
seek by itself. (An egg cannot seek its
own reason for its being an egg. One
needs to the break the egg, if need be.
05.Breaking the Issues: Many people claim they are
religious. Why do they say that they
are religious? If so, what do they
mean when they say they are
religious? In other words, what is
the possible reasonableness on the
basis of which such claims are
justified? Are our beliefs justified
true beliefs?
If we claim that we are religious oncertain reasonable grounds, does it
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mean say that those who are not-
religious are irrational and after all
what is rational is rational if and only
if it is publicly rational and there
cannot be such thing called privatereason and what we normally call
private reason is only a matter of
private affairs and not necessarily
reason per-se.
If it is not reasonably justifiable tobe religious, why should one claim
that s/he is religious? That is to say,
that X is religious in absence of
being rational? If so, on the grounds
of the centrality human-reason, such
religious-humans, can we say ,
refuse to be rational?
If a claim to be religious is rationallyjustifiable does it amount to say,
those who claim to be non-religious
are irrational or non-rational?
Alternatively If we claim that we are
not religious does it mean, those
who are religious are irrational? Can
we justify our reasons to be
religious? Can we justify our reasons
to be no-religious?
Many religious persons claim thatreligion and morality are interlinked,
to be religious is to be moral, and if
so, does it mean to say those who
are not religious are non-moral?
And if one can be moral without
being religious why if it all there be
religious-claims. What is the
relation between reason and
religion and morality?
I think one can raise many more related
issues around this theme but let me
hold back to address the issue namely -
is it reasonable to be religious? if so,
what are the reasons on the grounds ofwhich one can justify ones reason to be
religious and if not otherwise.
06.There seems to be three types of globaltrends with reference to religious-claims
that operative in the recent times:
4.1. There are identifiable groups thatspine for a culture based on
unquestioning faith, they are
named religious fundamentals.
4.2. There are those who are religiousin a sense of unselfconscious
relationship to their traditions
4.3. There are those ignited by thesecular trends of modernity
needle a culture based on reason,
science, democracy and
technology- atheistic trends. They
consider religion as cultured-
despisers.
4.4. There are those who struggle tofind a balance/bridge between
faith and reason.
4.5. Who am I and what is myidentity in relation to religion is
still an identity issue for many.
Philosophical discussions do always
treat the study of religion as one of its
intimate subject of inquiry and in fact it
is not far from truth if I claim that
religious claims deep down are
philosophical and not vice versa. The
relation between philosophy and
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religion remains so intimate those
philosophical inquiries make the faith
in the path of understanding.
07.We shall first look at these statements:(i) John says, I am religious
becauseI have faith.
(ii) Peter says, I am religiousbecauseI have sufficient reasons
to be religious.
(iii) Suresh says, I am religiousbecause I have sufficient
reasons, the reasons of my claim
to be religious are moderately
reasonable.
Between these first two statements or
positions, the because in the first
statement in fact does not have any
because(reason) for it only repeats the
first part of the statement. It is like
saying: I am religious because I am
religious (I have faith). Such a
statement lacks any epistemic validityfor the second part of statement
prefixed with because merely restates
the first part of the statement. It is a
matter of repeating the case in question
hence redundant. It is like saying India
is a spiritual country and Gandhi is from
India, therefore Gandhi is spiritual. (To
put it differently), X belongs to a
particular system of religious belief,
therefore X is a believer (I hold) is
similar to saying, X religious because he
belongs to religious sect and therefore X
has faith. Repetition of a position in-
question does not amount to provide
the reasonableness of it. A
statement/position cannot be
conclusively be legitimized to be true no
matter how often it is repeated and
how-different ways it is repeated.
08.This is what is often termed as theproblem of begging the question or
circular reasoning. (Lourdu says, God
must exist. Antony asks, How do you
know that God exists? Lourdu
responds:Because the Bible says so.
Anonty asks, Why should one belief
whatever is said in Bible?. Lourdu
responds: Because the Bible is the
word of God this is what is known as
the problem of begging the question or
argument in circularity) I know for
certain we do make such repeated
claims thinking that we are trying to
assert but what we do is we are
repeating the original statement.
Antony Flew would say this, a fine
brash of hypothesis is killed by thousand
qualifications.
09.Truth necessitates its merit and not its1000 times repetitions. That be reason,
that St. Augustine, in his Sermon
(43.7,9) asserts, Crede ut intelligas
(Believe in order that you may
understand ). This means that faith
demands trust in a reliable source and
Faith if it is to be FAITH(in Augustinian
sense, should seek understanding.Understanding or knowledge provides
the foundation for being faithful to Faith
(being religious). Augustine would go
further to argue that while faith comes
first in time, knowledge comes first in
importance). In fact, the French
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Philosopher Rene Descartes, cogito
ergo sum is but a derivation from the
catholic Augustinian position, dubito
ergo sum (I doubt therefore I am).
(Note: this is one of the reason I feeloften skeptical about peoples position
that faith does not require knowledge,
and I believe such tall claims are anti-
catholic. This is one of the reasons,
Vatican documents demands the
necessity of a serious study of
philosophy and serious study of
philosophy means, letting the students
to study philosophy in centers where,
the philosophical is taught and not
mere philosophyis taught.
10.Repetition may serve the purpose of adomineering position or self-domination
but it lacks any authentication.
Repeated acts of feeding the chicken in
the farm is not intended to promote the
chickens but its moral intention is to
feed the chicken in order to be fed by
the feeders, a process of self-
gratification and not necessarily the
gratification of the chickens, the other-
gratification. Repetition of any assertion
does not have truth-value rather it does
posses the value of undue domination
on/for those it is repeated.
11.The third statement is a questionregarding not only the reasons but the
reasonability of the reasons of ones
claim, and this is what exactly what I
intend opening up for a discussion
(though I have not finely addressed this
issue here, we may reserve it for the
more discussion).
12.Hence, philosophically speaking, anyassertion or claim needs to be rationally
justified. In other words, a truth-claim is
true in so far as it conceives the
possibility of its truth-conditions. Astatement/position is authenticated to
be true if and only if it propels its truth
conditions. This is one of the reasons,
that an epistemic position demands that
knowledge-claims must be justified true
belief.
13.And so, the question is it reasonable tobe religious demands a serious sense of
thinking the reasons to be religious. The
statement Peter says, I am religious
because I have sufficient reasons to be
religious is more plausible than the
statement of John I am religious
because I have faith. The statement of
Suresh is more reasonable than the
former ones. The last one, calls for an
epistemic validity. It is, as per the
Augustinian position, is the way of being
Christian within the Catholic Church -
Faith seeks understanding.
14.Reasonableness to be religious: Religious practice reduces the chances of a
person committing suicide: A study
conducted among suicide victims, those
with no-religious practices are more prone
to suicide attempts than with those who
practice religion
Religious practitioners and Churchattendants were less prone to depression:A large Canadian study involving 70,000
adults found that those who attended
Church services regularly had fewer
depressive symptoms than average.
Interestingly, those who described
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themselves as spiritual, rather than
religious, had more depressive symptoms.
Both effects were true regardless of age,
sex and other variables.
Religious practices help the bereaved tocope with the loss/death of loved ones:
One recent study examined 135 relatives
and close friends of those who died in a
palliative care centre at one, nine and 14
months after bereavement. People with no
spiritual beliefs did not resolve their grief
over the period of the study, those with
strong beliefs did so progressively, and
those with low levels of belief showed no
change for the first nine months, but they
began to resolve their grief after that point..
Religious practice reduces risk-taking andsexual behavior among teenagers: One
major study involving over 2,000 young
people aged between 11-18 showed church
attendance and involvement in a church-
based youth group reduced risk-taking
behaviors such as smoking, alcohol use,
marijuana use, truancy and depression,
even when controlling for confounders such
as socio-economic status and self-esteem.
Religious practices reduce and sexualbehavior among teenagers: Regarding
sexual activity, church attendance and
youth involvement reduced sexual activity.
Furthermore, the risk-taking behavior that
often occurs in early adulthood was less
marked in the religious cohort. Self-esteem
was also higher among those attending
church.
Reduces or able to fight Alcoholism,smoking: Of those who are saved from
alcoholism, people with religious practices
are more than that of people without
religious orientation/practice.
Religious practice enhances self esteem:astudy reveals that the self-esteem level of
those who belong/practice religion is higher
than that of those who do not.
Religious practitioners have lower numberof sexual partners: A survey of 1,100
American adults aged over 18 found that
those who were religious had a lower
number of sexual partners than those who
were not
Religious practice adds to life expectancy:A meta-analysis of all studies relating to
religious involvement and longevity was
carried out in the year 2000. A total of
126,000 people were involved. It found that
active religious involvement increased the
chances of living longer than the average by
29%, and participation in public religious
practices, such as church attendance,
increased he chance of living longer by 43%.
Enhances Marital Stability: The greatestamount of marital stability is found among
couples who practice the same religion.
Marriages in which neither spouse is
religious are the least stable. Marriages
between couples who practice different
religions, or where one is religious and the
other is not, fall in between these twopoles. Marital stability among religious
believers is explained partly by religious
injunctions against divorce, but it also may
be explained by the fact that religious
believers attach less importance to personal
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autonomy and more importance to
commitment.
Patient Recovery faster: A number ofstudies have been conducted to test the
effect of prayer on patient recovery. These
have compared groups of patients who
were being prayed for, but didnt know it,
and another group who were not being
prayed for. None of the patients knew they
were part of these studies. Measures such
as mortality, duration of fever and length of
stay in hospital were shorter in the prayer
group than in the non-prayer group.
However, these studies are not conclusive.
They only indicate that there may be some
positiveeffect from prayer because other
studies, for example involving cardiac
patients, have shown no effect.
Numerical strength: In India ReligionPracticing People numerically more than
those who do not practice religion.
Religious practitioners have a strongersense to values and morals: religion and
morality are inseparable.
Religion exists in multiple ways: (myprevious lecture at Chennai)
Rich & Poverty, Happiness argument:Among the poor people, those with
religious practice are happy in spite their
daily low-income, it is not surprising to see
that they are happy and visit temples and
churches repeatedly in spite of their lower
income. People who are rich does not any
way refrain from religious practices and this
means a question of happiness and
personal satisfaction of the religious
practitioners.
Post-modernity, in a sense is a way ofturning back to religious tradition.
15.The above-said studies, most of themsociological in natureargueto the effect
that people with religion (religious people)
are in an advantageous position than that
of those who are not in tune with religious
practices.
16.Most arguments or reasons for beingreligious can be classified in the
following ways. They are of the type of
argument from. These include:
16.1. Argument from humanpathology (Mother-Teresa)
16.2. Argument numericalstrength
16.3. Argument from tradition orcultural inheritance
16.4. Argument from morality16.5. Argument from
consciousness (not explained here)
16.6. Argument from no argument etc
17.Some questions on Reasonableness ofour reasons to be religious: Strength of the evidence does not
guarantee the truth of the
conclusive assertion: Pope John
Paul made the first visit to Brazil, in
1980; nearly 90 percent of the
population considered itself
Catholic; by the 2010 census, that
had fallen to under two-thirds, with
the number of Brazilians calling
themselves Protestants rising to 22
percent from 6 percent during the
same period. According to a poll
conducted recently by the local
Datafolha organization, only 57% of
Brazilians identify themselves as
Catholics, and fewer than 16% say
they attend weekly Mass. Protestant
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evangelicals are making strong
inroads among the Catholic faithful.
Argument from human pathology isan argument for security-needs:
Freud, for example, felt that belief inGod was a projection of our need for
security and for a father figure.
Religion is an easy-response andrecourse (safety-valve) to the un-
spelt identity problem.
Bertrand Russell to the effect thatan argument from the facts of the
world to the existence of God could
not be valid "as one could not
deduce a necessary conclusion from
a contingent premise".
Religion as a systematic entity, as itemerged in the seventeenth and
eighteenth centuries, is a concept of
polemics and apologetics.
Reason is not the territory of thereligious practitioners. It is
psychological, emotional,
pathological, and cultural. No
amount of belief makes something a
fact
Conclusion: If we claim we are homo-
sapiens, and thereby we are self-
reflective let there be moments of/for
further reflections. Let faith seek its
understanding.
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