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BarcelonaExopoliticsSpeakersPanelonDisclosure23July2009-Part2of2

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KERRYCASSIDY(KC):So,certainly,theWhiteHatshavebeenbehindthescenesworkingtomakethisDisclosureevenpossible.Inasense,ourPetePetersonisaWhiteHat.HisbackgroundistenyearsasaMarine.Okay?


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Youwantedtosaysomething,Rob?

ROBERTFLEISCHER(RF):Yes,andthenIwillgiveitovertoDr.OLeary.Ijustwantedtosay...Imean,ImtheonlyGermanguyhere.YouremostlyAmericans.

[comments,crosstalk,responses,laughter]

PAOLAHARRIS(PH):British.

NICKPOPE(NP):British.

RF:Yes,British.ImtheonlyGermanguy.IdidntsayImtheonlynon...andAustralian,ofcourse,andBritishaswell.ButthisisliketheAnglohowdoyousay?theAnglophobicworld.

IthinkthatthereisarealchanceforDisclosurewhentheAnglo-Saxonbankingsystemgoesdown.AndIthinkthatthereisagoodchancethatthiscanhappenquitefast.Imean,allofthesortofdebtoftheUnitedStatesisactuallyinthehandsoftheChinese.Andyouhaveemergingstates,like,especially,theChinese,the...ah...youhaveIndia,youhaveRussiaandyouhaveBrazil.

So,allofthesecountries,theydealwiththeUFOissueinamuchmoreopenwaythantheAmericansdo,forobviousreasons.Imean,like,inBrazil,theyhaveopenUFOfileswithUFOencountersinthejungle,whichisamazing.

InIndia,theyhavetheflyingvimanasanditspartoftheirculture,actually,theflyinggodsthatcamefromheavenandhelpedtocreatehumanculture.So,forthem,itsnotsuchabigissuethattherereextraterrestrials.

And,justrecently,ItalkedtoaChinesemasterofaspiritual...ah...aspiritualthing.Idontknowhowtodescribeitnowin

English.Anyway,shetoldmethatsheknowsthatextraterrestrialcontactisactuallysomethingconsideredofficialinChina,thatthereareuniversityprofessorsopenlydealingwiththecontentofwhatthecontacteesarebeingtoldbythem,andhowitallrelatestoquantumphysicsandstuff.

Ithinkthatthisisactuallyaveryinterestingthing,andthatthismightemergewhenwelivenotinamono-polarworld,butinamulti-polarworld,whichIhopewillhappensoon.

Excusemeforthat.[laughs]IdontwanttooffendyouAmericans,but

KC:Absolutely.

RF:youknow,inmysense,Ithinkthatsthebestthingwecando,tohaveamulti-polarworld.And,then,IthinkDisclosurewillbemuchmorelikelythanwhatwehaverightnow.

[toBrianOLeary]Now,please...

BRIANOLEARY(BOL):Yeah.Iwasjustgoingtoreturntothisissue


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ofanger,becauseIthinkthatsthelargestobstacletoDisclosure,justingeneral,ishowarepeoplereacting,orgoingtoreact,toDisclosure...

BOBDEAN(BD):...havingbeenconnedforsomanyyears...

BOL:havingbeenconnedforsomanyyears.And,tomywayofthinking,thisisthekindof...angermanagementmightbetherightkindofapproachforthis,especiallyinAmerica.

AndIthinkyoureright,themulti-polarworld,Ithink,ifAmericacouldrecognizethatalittlebitmoreandkindofloosenupalittlebit,that,maybe,thereisawayofslippingthroughthisperiod,whichis...

Obviouslyheadsaregoingtoroll.Therearegoingtobealotofvindictivenessandanger;and,somehow,thatneedstobemanagedinawaythatsforeverybodysbenefit.Andthatsthebigissue.

BD:Youliveoutofthecountryatthemoment.

BOL:Yes.

BD:So,youmayhavelosttouchwithafewthings.AndImnotsaying

thisinanegativesense.

IliveinArizona,andthereisarunonammunition.PeoplearebuyinggunsandammunitionintheSouthwesttosuchalevelthatthesportinggoodsstoresandthegunstorescannotkeepastockonhand,becausetheminutetheygetashipment,theshelvesarecleanedout!

Now,thisisthegroupofpeoplethatIhappentoknowprettywell,becauseIcamefromthatgroup.Theyarestockpilingguns;theyrestockpilingammunition;and,whenthewordcomesouthowtheyvebeenconnedandliedtoforsolong,youregoingtohavebloodinthe

streets.

And,Ithink,theObamacrowd,beingsharp,knowthis.IdontbelievethatObamaisgoingtoletthis...hedoesntwantthisonhisplaterightnow,becausehesgotsodamnmanyotherthingstodealwith.

BILLRYAN(BR):Steve,whatdoyouthinkabout?

BD:Whenyoustartthinkingabouthowmanypeopleouttherethroughoutthecountryarebuyinggunsandstockpilingammunition,thatisanindicationthatthereisaleveloffrustrationandangerouttherein

theAmericanmassesthatthepoliticiansinWashingtonmaynotevenbeawareof.

BR:Stephentalkstopoliticiansallthetime--dontyou,Stephen?

STEPHENBASSETT(SB):Notexactly.But,oneofmyconcernshereiswereabouttogoontheradioinacoupleofminutes.

BR:Yep.Welljustcontinueas...


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SB:But,Imean,theres...thataudienceiscomingin

BR:Right.

KC:Thatsright.

SB:...sotheydontknowwhatsgoingon.So,Imgoingtomakeaveryquickcomment,becausethererealotofthingsIdliketocommenton,buttheresnoantecedentfortheaudience.Illhavetokindofre-upit,but,letmejustsaythis.Thisisveryshortandsumsupalotofthings.

IbelievethattheprinciplereasonthatAmericansareexperiencingsomuchangstandfrustration,cynicismandparanoia,theprinciplereasonthattheyarebuyinggunsand/orexpressingthemselvesinwayswhichareconcerning,isnotbecausetheyvebeentoldterribletruths,butbecausetheyvebeenliedtoextensivelyforthelast,well,goingbacktotheVietnamWar,primarily,theGulfofTonkinResolution...

BD:Robbed!Robbed,forGodssake!SB:...andstolenblind.So,Isortofviewittheotherway.Ifyouwantpeopletostopbeing

paranoiacandstopbeingdistrustfulofthegovernmentandstoparmingthemselves,youneedtostarttellingthetruth.Ifyoustarttellingthetruthandthingsllgetbetter.

AcknowledgingtheETpresenceisabig,bigoneandthatllgettheballrolling.Hopefully,itwillleadtoahowwouldyousay?areformistera,wherethetruthbecomesStandardOperatingProcedure.

Holdingback,waiting[and]somehowkeepingthesecretlonger?Idontthinkitsgoingtomakeitanybetter;itsonlygoingtogetworse.

AndthelastthingIllsayisthis:ETsarentjusthereforthe

Americans.TheydidntcomeallthiswaybecauseThisAmericathing,wegottotellthemthetruth.Right?Theyrehereengagingtheentireplanet.We[Americans]representfivepercentoftheworldspopulation.

Itcomesdowntothis:ItdoesntreallymatterwhethertheAmericansarereadyornot,ortheBangladeshis,ortheFrench,ortheRussians.Theyregoingtodealwithit,whethertheylikeitornot,becauseitsgoingtohappen,whethertheylikeitornot.Itsunavoidableandinevitable.

BD:Makeapoint,Stephen,thattheETsarenotvisitors,forGods

sake.

SB:Well,again,Im...

BD:Theyrenotjustvisitinghere.Theyvebeenherefromthebeginningofourhistory.

SB:Butthatdistinctiondoesntaffectmypoliticalpoint.

BD:Well,itoughtto!


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SB:Why?Imtalkingaboutextraterrestrialsinthesenseofnon-humanbeings,asweunderstandthem,withtechnologybeyondwhatwehave.

WhethertheyrefromtheInnerEarth,fromanotherdimension,fromthepast,fromotherstarsystemsOccamsrazorwouldsayfromotherstarsystemswherevertheyrefrom,right?Itisamajoreventandasignificantthingfortheworldspopulationtoknowthis,andthatcrossingpoint,whenthatself-acknowledgementoccurs,isabigdeal.

Now,theparticulars:Weknowtheresahugesub-storyhere.Weknowthatbehindthisisamassivestory.Itshugeandbroad,andeverybodyistryingtounderstandit.Everybodyknowsalittleaboutit,alittlehere,andsoforth.Nobodyknowsthefullstory;nobodysgotitallright.Theyknowalittlepiece.

Thedilemmaisthatthepoliticalprocess,orthesocialtransition,isnotaboutfiguringthewholethingoutandbringingitouttothepublicandsaying:Here.Wecantdothat.

Disclosureisnothingmorethanthefirststeptowardsthatprocess.Because,oncethegovernmentsformallyacknowledgethisrealityandtheschoolscanteachit,andthephilanthropistscanfundit,andthe

mediacancoverit,andtheintellectualscandiscussit--thenwecanstartsortingthewholedamnthingoutandsay:Thisisnonsense;thatsnottrue;thispersonsafraud;thatpersonstherealdeal;thatstorysgood;thatstorysbad.And,actually,createarealhistoryofthisissueasbestwecan.

But,untilDisclosuretakesplace,thatsnotgoingtohappen.Weregoingtocontinuetochurn,andchurn,andchurn.

Andrememberthatthisarena,thishallofsmokeandmirrorswerein,wedidntbuildit--thegovernmentbuiltit.Thegovernmentputthosemirrorsup;putthesmokeinthehall.Theyhavedeliberatelymadeitverydifficult,ifnotimpossible,tohaveaclear

understanding.Thatwasagovernmentpolicy.

Wehavetoendthatpolicy,andDisclosureistheendofthatpolicy.AndthatsDisclosurewithacapitalD;aformalacknowledgementoftheETpresence.Thatsit,nothingmore.

Disclosurewithasmalldhasbeengoingonforalongtime,noquestion,anunfoldingofinformation,citizenprocess,misinformation;allmixedin.Thatssmalld.Allright?Thatsbeenhappening,absolutely,noquestion.

BUTinspiteofallthatdisclosurewithasmalld,dotheuniversitiesteachit?Doesthepressproperlycoverit?Doesthe

governmentfundit?Dowehave,youknow,thinktanksdevotedtoit?No,wedont.

Whatgovernmentdoes--matters.WhatObamaandtheadministrationdoes--matters;and,sotheyhavetoact.Youcantignoregovernment,right?

Youknow,peoplewantpeaceandtheysay:Well,Iwantpeace,sothegovernmentdoesntmatter...untilthegovernmentcomesandtakesyoursonoryourdaughterandsendsthemofftowar.


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Whatgovernmentdoes--matters;so,wehavetoengageit,andwehavetodealwiththeprocess,usingtheinstitutionswehave,togettheproperresult.

BD:YouallareawareofthePandorasBoxstory,thelegendgoingbacktoancientGreece.PandorasBoxhadalltheFuriesinHelloftheentireworld,lockedandsealed.YouopenPandorasBoxjustalittletinybitandallHellbreaksloose,becauseyoucantreleasejustalittletinybit.

Ifyoureleasejustonelittletinybit,youvegotamillionquestionsandamillionpissedoffpeoplewantingtoknowtherestofit.AndIdontbelievethatourgovernment,atthismoment,isinanypositiontoevenbegintotellthemtherestofthestory.

Becausedoyouknowabouttheimpactontheology?YouknowwhattheBrookingsReportsaid.YoutrytotellthepeopleouttherethatJesusofNazarethwasoneofThem[pointsup]andtheevidenceweveallhadis:Yes,hewas.Now,howdoyoutellthattofundamentalists?

RF:Excuseme...

BD:LookattheMuslimworldrightnow.

RF:TheBrookingsReport,thatwasin1961orsomething.

BD:61.Yes.

RF:Imean,nowwehave2009.

BD:Robert,itsstillnational

RF:[unclear]...asakindofrepresentativeoftheyoungergeneration...

BD:...policy,sadlyenough.

RF:Okay,okay,okay.Maybe,youknow,inmanygenerationsitsaproblemformanygenerations,obviously.ButIhavetotellyou.Ibelongtoayoungergeneration.Iknowmanypeoplemyageandyounger.Forthemitsnotsounimaginable.Itsnotso...

Whenyousay:Youknow,theAmericangovernment,orcertainpeopleinthemilitary-industrialcomplex,coveredthatup.

Theysay:Allright.Yeah,yeah,Icanimaginethat.Youknow,its

notabigdealforthem.[laughs]

[everyonetalksatonce]

KC:Okay.Letme...Hello,hello,hello!Letmeinterrupt.Weregoingontheair.Bill,areyouannouncing?Areweontheair?Weshouldbeontheairatthemoment,accordingtothetime.

[KerryandBilldiscusscomputersetupforradiobroadcast]


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KC:Goahead,youguys.Letscontinuethis.Theyoungergeneration...youwanttosaysomething,Brian?

BOL:Yes.WhatIwantedtosayisthatitseemslikethattheproblem...youknow,weobviouslyhaveatigerbythetailhere,[BobDeanlaughs]andthatweallrecognizethatangerisaninitialreactiononceDisclosurereallyunfoldswithacapitalD.

So,ifwecanrecognizethis,andourso-calledadversaries,letssaythekeepersofthesecrets,cansitdownatatableandnegotiatethereleaseoftheinformationwhere,intheirperception,itwouldnthurtthemthatmuchjustmaybethatstheopening.

Itseemslikethatsthenuboftheissueisthatthecover-upandtheencrustationofcover-upsgoingonforthelast65yearshascreatedthisPandorasBoxwhich,ifopened,couldleadtoaprocessoftruthandreconciliationwhichwould,justperhaps,launchusintothenewparadigm,whichissobadlyneededanyway,inordertosaveourpreciousplanet.

SothatsthewayIdliketoseeit,istoprovidethebasisforsomesortofnegotiation,orprocessoftruthandreconciliation,tobeabletocreatecertainlevelsofamnestyand...

BD:Youwantustoforgivethesinners,doyou?[laughs]

BOL:Well,eventually,yes.

PAOLAHARRIS(PH):Itsgoingtohappen.

[vigorouscrosstalk]

SB:Wedoitallthetime.

VOICE:Yes,Imsorry.

KC:Thefilmmakershavesomething

VOICE:Yeah,IjusthaveonethingthatIwanttoputoutthere,becauseweretalkingabouttwoscenariosatatime,becausetherealthing--whatsgoingon,thecover-up?Imafraid,certainofthethirdphenomena,itsthecounterfeit.Imean,theblackoperations,themanifestations,thefalseSecondComing,themanufacture...

KC:ProjectBlueBeam.Weregettingtothat,actually,yes.

VOICE:[continuesspeakingbutisinaudible]

KC:Okay.Thefilmmakerswouldliketoustoaddressthat.Yes.Thatsimportant.Okay.Weregoingthere.Actually,justsoyouguysknow...

BD:False...

KC:Yeah,oneofthe...yeah.WhatweretalkingabouthereiswhenIsaid:Whynow?Partofthequestionis:Whynowinthisjuncture?Andwhatisit,aspartofthepossibleagenda,whatthesepeoplehaveinmind?

Becausetheydontdothingswithoutsortofaself-servingangle


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involved,anditmaybethattheyrepreparingthegroundworkforwhatwillbeafalsealieninvasionscenario.

NP:Illspeaktothis,becauseIveactuallybeenaccusedofplayingapartinthis.

KC:Ohgreat.Goahead.

NP:IfyouGooglethephrasefalse-flagalieninvasion,youllobviously,asyourewellaware,findalotofmaterial--quitealotofitincreasinglybeingpeggedon2012,whichhasbeenlinkedin.Specifically,insomeinstances,peggedontheOlympicGamestobeheldinLondon,andpossiblysomeeventsupposedlytakingplaceatmaybetheclosingceremony.

Now,myinvolvementwiththisisthat,inamongstmyfreelancejournalismwork,Ivedone,Iguess,abouttwoorthreethings,whichkindofwentontheradarwithcertainpeople,ifyoullexcusethepun.

ThefirstwasIwroteanop-edintheNewYorkTimes,whichwentoutunderthetitleUnidentifiedFlyingThreats.Thatwentout,Ithink,onJuly29thlastyear[2008].Averyinterestingthingfortheconspiracytheoristswasrightunderneathifyoureoneofthese

peoplewholooksforjuxtapositionofheadlineswasanunrelated(orwasit?)articleentitledCanObamaHandletheOffense?Soalotofpeoplereadsomethingintothat.

IalsodoalotofworkwithTheSun;Britainsbest-sellingnationaldailynewspaper.Iworkedonastory,whichwentoutundertheheadlineShootDowntheUFO.That,then,gotpickedupbyFoxNewsand,assomeofyoumayhaveseen,IwasinterviewedbyBillHemmeronthatshowtwoorthreemonthsback.

So,Imsortofsoundingalittlebitdefensivehere,because,whenyoumentionthingslikeBlueBeamandFalse-FlagAlienInvasion,

becauseofthosemediathingsIvedone,Iveactuallybeenputintheframeasoneoftheguiltyparties,andIdliketoabsolutelyassureeveryonethatImnot.

BD:Youreinnocent?

NP:Yeah.Iminnocent.CanIgetbacktoaquestion,whichyouaskedabouthalfanhourago,whichIdidntgettoanswer,andImgoingtogiveyouananswer.

KC:Sure,absolutely.

NP:YoumentionedPetePeterson,whoIdontknowandhaventmet.No

reasontodoubthisbonafides,oranything.ButmypersonalanswertothequestionyouaskedofPaola:Willthishappen?IsNo.

Isaythatforaboringstatisticalreason,really,butonethatcanbeverified.

Outofallthepredictionsofeither(A)somesortoflandingorundeniablealienintervention,or(B)allthepredictionsofDisclosure...outofalltheonesthathavebeenmade,agrandtotal


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ofzerohaveactuallycometopass.

Sojustfromaboringstatisticalpointofview,Imreasonablyconfidentthatthedeadline...IthinkyouweresayingNovember,thisyear?

KC:Well,actuallyweweresayingendoftheyear.

NP:It,Ithink,willcomeandgowithoutincident.

CanIpickuponpointalsothatIthinkBobmade?Itssomethingthatsbeenrunningthroughalotof...orallofusseemtoleaveoutlackoftrustingovernment.Illjustthrowthisoutinawiderpointofview.

SomethingRobertsaid,thatpeopleofhisgeneration,ifthiswasunpackedtothemthattheydbeenliedtowouldjustsay:Yeah.Sowhat?Wethoughtthatwasprobablytruethesethingsweregoingon.Weneverdidtrustthegovernment.

ImfromtheUK.TrustingovernmentintheUKatthemoment,onjustabouteveryissue,isatanall-timelow.IdontknowhowmanyoftheBritishnewsstorieshavemadethemedia,butourmembersof

parliamenthavebeenmakingbogusclaimsforexpensesandthemostoutrageousthingsthatwe,thetaxpayers,havebeenpayingfor.Someofthemhaveresigned.Mosthavenot.

Justtodayitwasannouncedonthenews,possibly100,000casesofswineflujustinthelastweek,accordingtosomestatisticalanalyses.

BD:IntheUK?

NP:IntheUKalone.Now,thatsatthehighendoftheestimatescale,andestimatesofdeathsareabout100fromthat,dependingonwhosefiguresyoulistento.

Mypointis,theotherstorythatcameouttodaywasthattheHelpLine,whichhasnowgonelivethisisthegovernmentHelpLine,arguablyoneofthemostimportantissuesaffectingtheBritishpeople.ThepeoplewhoaremanningtheHelpLinesarenotmedicallytrained.Someofthemwerenoteveninterviewedforthosejobs.And,guesswhat?Itdoesntmatteranyway,becausethewebsitesdown,becausetoomanypeoplearetryingtologonandgetthrough.

SoIthinkalotofdiscussions...IknowIvegoneslightlyofftopic;but,actually,youknow,Iprobablyhavent,becauseIthinkfaithingovernmentandinstitutionsisatanall-timelow.Soifitdoestranspiretheyveliedtousaboutthis,yes,itsamassivelie,

butpeoplewontbesurprised.

AW:Itcantgetanyworse.

SB:Thepointofpride

BD:Letmeremindyouofsomething.IknowthatintheUKtheydonttrusttheirpoliticians.Wedonttrustourpoliticians.Butyourpoliticianscausedascenein1776andlookwhathappened.Now,thatcouldtellyouwhatpoliticiansscrewingthingsupcando!


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NP:Yes,but[overtalk]

BD:Revolution,in1776.Thatspirit,Nick,letmereallytellyou,andletmereassertthis.ThatsamedamnspiritexistsintheAmericanpeopletoday,andtheyareascapablein2009ofdoingwhattheydidin1776.ThatswhatImconcernedabout.

KC:Yeah.Ithinkthatsimportant.Absolutely.Asamoderator,Iwanttosayherethattheresayouthandagepartofthisstory.Becausetheanger,Imgoingtosay,isinthepeoplewhovebeenaroundalongtimewiththecover-up.Theyouthhavenot.Okay?Atleastnotinthisbody.

AndIwanttosaythatangerisnotsomuchanissueoverthisparticularthingthecover-upasitisthatinacertainsensetheyouthwillturnonadime,often,willunderstand,andtheyrebeingsoldmoviesouttherethatolderpeopledontevengoto.

Igotothem,soIknowtheyreoutthere.Iknowtheyvebeentaughtalotofinformation,secretinformation,intheguiseofwhatlookslikeachildishstory.

So,Ihavetosaythat,insomeways,itstruewhatyouresaying,Rob.Itsnotgoingtoblowthemaway,ifsomePresidentgetsupthereandsays:Hello,ETsreal.Ofcoursetheyrereal!Thatsgoingtobetheattitude.Iknowthatwouldmyattitude,especiallyifIwasthatage,andIknowthatitsgoingtobetrueofalotofkids.

But,theresanothersidetothis,andthisisalsovalid,anditisthatthereareAmericanspreparing,aswespeak,forthedissolutionofwhatis,inessence,theAmericangovernment.Okay?

Thatthecracks...theshipisleakingandhasbeenleakingforavery

longtime;thatpatriotsandpeoplethathavecomefromthemilitaryarefedup;thattheresahugecontingenceofthatgoingon.

AndthatthisDisclosureissueoftruthsingeneralthattheyvebeenlyingonthemoney,thefinancialendofthings;thesociety,thewaytheyvebeenbroughtup,thethingstheyresupposedtodowiththeirlives...

Theparadigm,theoldparadigm,iscrumbling.And,withinthecrumblingandthedissolution,thecontrollersknowdamnwell[that]ifyoujusttakeonemorethingandtipthestrawoffthecamelsbackitsgoingtobetheDisclosureissueintermsofETs.

Therewillbechaos.Theyrecausingchaos.Infact,thatswhattheywant,Iwouldsuggest,andyoucanalladdressthis,ifyouwill.Buttheyrenotlookingforthingstogosmoothlyrightnow.

Actually,theywantchaosbecausetheywanttoeliminatealargenumberofthepopulation,andtheviruses,andthechemtrails,andwhatsgoingon,iscontributingtothat.

[totheaudience]Goahead...


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[unclearcommentfromoffstage]

BD:OurDirectorofHomelandSecurityrecentlywentpubliconnationalmediaandexpressedherviewthatthereturningveteransfromIraqandAfghanistanarenottobetrusted,becausetheyknowhowtouseguns.Andtheyrecomingback,andtheylookaround,andtheyrepissedoff.

NowthiswomanusedtobetheGovernorofArizona.ShesnowDirectoroftheDepartmentofHomelandSecurity.Shewentonnationalpublicationandsaid:Theseguysaredangerous,youknow?Theyknowhowtousegunsandtheyrecomingbackandtheyreangry.

Well,shetouchedthetipoftheiceberg,letmetellyou.Whothehelldoyouthinkareouttherebuyingthegunsandammunition?AlotofthemaretheguyscomingbackfromIraqandAfghanistan.

KC:Well,Ihavetosaythat...well,Ishouldntnamenames,butsomeofourwhistleblowershaveactuallysaidtheexactsamething.

BD:Yeah.Well...

KC:Andtheyare,themselves,preparing.Letsputitthatway.

BD:Iknowthat.

BOL:Andtheyreyoungpeople.

BD:Well,tome,anyoneunder50isyoung,youknow?[laughter]

KC:Butmostofourwhistleblowersarenotyoung.Theyreactuallyolderthantheage50.

SB:Areweonradioyet,byanychance?

KC:[toBill]Whatsgoingon?

[BillandKerryconversere:broadcastsituation;Billconfirmsthepanelisstreamingliveaudio.]

KC:Okay.Soletscontinuewiththis.

SB:Iwouldliketocommenthere,becausethererealotofthingsbeingsaidthatIdontagreewithandIthinkIneedtomakeapoint,lestIbeaccusedofagreeing.

IamremindedofJeffersonsquote,that,onoccasion,theTreeof

Libertyneedstobefertilizedwiththebloodofrevolution.But,thatsaid,Idontbelievetheresgoingtobearevolution.IdontbelievetheresgoingtobeviolenceinthewakeofDisclosureatall.Idontthinktheresgoingtobeasubstantialpanic.Idontthinkanythingsgoingtohappeninthatregard.

AsIvesaid,IbelievethatDisclosurewillbetwothingsinone.Itwillbethemostprofoundeventinhumanhistory,anditwillbethemostanti-climacticeventinhumanhistorythanksto60-someyears


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ofinformationuponinformation,andmedia,andeverythingelse.Imean,wehavesaturatedtheworldwiththisissue.AndtheETs,ofcourse,havehelpedbyconstantlycomingandgoing.

Intheworldtoday,themost-knownacronymisUSA.Thesecondmost-knownacronymintheworldtoday,amongsteverybody,allsixbillion:UFO.Everywhere.Andthen,theaveragepopulationofIran,thirty-three.[Ednote:meaningaverageage]

So,look,theresgoingtobesomeangrypeople,andtheresgoingtobesomepeoplethathavegrudges,andthereareissuestoaddress.But,thefirstthingthatwillhappenwiththeacknowledgementoftheETpresenceistheworldwillwanttoknow:What,Why,Where,andWhen.Tellmemore.Tellmemore.

Theissuesandthegrievanceswillbeshovedcompletelyaside.Andforthenextweeks,months,orwhatever,therellbesomesortofinformationexchange.

Thegovernmentisnotstupid.Theyrenotgoingtocomeoutinitiallywiththestuffthatsgoingtomakethemlookawfulandflammable.

BD:Someofthemare.Ivemetthem,dammit.

SB:Othergovernmentsmaychooseto...

BD:Someofthemarestupid,becauseIvemetthem.Nickwilltellyou,someoftheirpoliticiansarestupid.

SB:Wellhopefullytheywontdothat.Iwouldthinkthattheywillcomeoutwiththosethingswhicharerelativelypositiveandreinforcing,andovertime,wewillgetintosomeofthewilderandcrazierstuff.

Theyvehad60yearstoplanthis.Itsnotgoingtobearandomevent,unlesstheETsforceit.

AndIsaythis,because,look--Irespectallofmycolleaguesopinions,believeme.IrespectBobtremendously.But,feelingasIdo,Idontwanttobegoingtothepublicontheair,andonradioandtelevision,andtellingmillionsofpeoplethereregoingtobebloodinthestreets,theresgoingtobearevolution.

PH:No,Idontwanttodothattopeopleeither.

SB:IfIthoughtthat,byGod,Idsayit.But,Ithinkwehavetocircumspecthere,becausewearedealingwithaprofoundthing.

PH:IagreewithSteve.

SB:Thererealotofreasonsforpeoplebeingangrywithgovernmentrightnow.WithoutanyETs,youstillhavelotsofproblems,andweregoingtostillhavethoseproblemsthedayafterDisclosure.But,ultimately,whenthegovernmentstartstellingthetruth,thingsarelikelytogetbetter.

AndthelastthingIllsayisthis:WhentheVietnamWarended,oneofthefirstquestionsthat,Ithink,wasposedtotheVietnamWaractivistswas:Allofyouranti-warstuffalloftheseyears--can


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youtellusthatyoushortenedtheVietnamWarbyasingleday?

Andtheansweris:Itwasntreallyclear.Maynot.Probablydidnt.

Andweregoingtobeaskedthesamequestion:Yourattledourcagesforalloftheseyears.DidyoubringDisclosureonedaysoonerthanthegovernmentwouldhavedoneitanyway?

Andtheansweris:Idontknow;verylikelynot.

Butitdoesntmatter,becauseallofthishasraisedthepublicawarenessandbroughttheseissuesoutandspreadthemaroundtheglobe,ontheNetandeveryway,sohundredsofmillionsofpeoplearegettingasense,anunderstanding,anawareness.So,whenitdoeshappen,theyregoingtobealittlemoreready.

And,ifsomefoolinsomegovernmentsomewheresays:Letstakeadvantageofthisbigdeal.Letsconcoctsomething.Ithinkifwegetanalienwarthingoutthere,weregoingtobeabletospendtrillionsofdollars,andIvegotcompanieswecanfund

IthinktheInternet,andyou,andyourcolleaguesaregoingtoshreditinabout24hours,breakitoutintheopen,andthesepeoplewill

alreadybeontheirwaytojail.

WeareraisingpublicawarenesstogetDisclosure.Whenitllhappen?Hopefullysoon.But,itsnotsimplyaboutDisclosure;itsaboutunderstanding.

KC:Okay...

BD:Wedonthaveenoughjailroomtohandleallofthegovernmentpeople,liketheguysintheHouseandtheSenate,whoshouldgotojail.

SB:WellputemintheFEMAcamps.[laughter]

KC:Allright.Thisisgoodenergy!LetsletAlfredhavehissayhere.

AW:Idliketojumpinhereonacoupleofpointstomake;firstofall,tomakethepointofandraisetheawarenessthatweretalkingaboutaplanetaryissueandnotanissueoftheU.S.

AndStevementionedIran.Well,itjustsohappened;IwanttomakeanannouncementthatIwascontactedbyIranianNationalTelevision,andtheywillbecallingintomorrowat5pmIlltakeitonmycellphonetointerviewmeonthesubjectoftheextraterrestrial

presenceontheMoon.

So,thisisbreakingthroughallofthenationalstereotypesthatwehave.

Ifwelookattheerathatwerein,itsaneraofGalacticconsciousness,andthatismovingbeyondbeingSpaniards,orbeingAmericans,orCanadians,andmovingbeyondevenbeingcitizensofplanetEarth--tobeingcitizensofanorganizedandpopulatedGalaxy.ThatswheretheleadingedgeofExopoliticsis,really.


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Now,jumpingtothesecondpoint,thisthingaboutthedissolutionoftheUS--IcanrememberbeingafuturistattheCenterfortheStudyofSocialPolicyatStanfordResearchInstitutein1977,thesameyearthatweweredoingtheCarterWhiteHouseextraterrestrial-proposedstudy.

Itwascommonparlance-inthehalls-oftheplantobreakuptheUSintofiveorsixcontiguousregions;WashingtonandOregonwasEcotopia,youknow?[laughs]Andtherewerevariousnamesfortheotherregions.

So,Ithinkthatthoseofuswhocanappreciatethattherearetrans-nationalforcesrunningsomeoftheshadowgovernmentelementsoftheUS,thewholeplanforthedissolutionoftheUSnowisreallyatrialballoonthathasbeenintheplanning,inthethink-tanks,forover40years:Ohyeah,letsdissolvetheUSand,youknow,wedoaSovietUniononit,andthenwegoontosomeothermarket.

IthinkIdliketoreallyappealtothepatriotismofRobertDeanhereandtowhatStevensaidthat,onsomeesotericlevels,theUnited

StatesissupposedtobeanexpressionoftheEnlightenment;kindofaninheritoroftheEnlightenmentofthedayswhenEgyptandMarswereonecivilizationwehavesomeproofofthatnowfromtheMarsRoverphotographs.

So,IwouldtendtoresistidentifyingwithdisintegratingtheUSnow,becauseIthinkitspartofamanipulation.

Finally,IdliketoputmyvoteIcouldbewrongmoreonthe2002RoperReport,ratherthanontheBrookingsReport.Thatmeansthat,whenqueried,85percentofpeoplewerecompletelycongruent,were

totallycool,withthespecificquestion:Ifthegovernmentweretoannounceanextraterrestrialpresence,howwouldyoureact?

Andeighty-fivepercentsaid:Itwouldntbothermeabit.

Ithinkthattheoppositecouldbetrue,andthatisthattherewouldbecelebrations.Youhaveevenactivistsinourcampwhotalkabouthavingrockextraterrestrialconcertstowelcomeinthisage.ItskindofafallingoftheBerlinWall,anditsmoreofabirth,ratherthanadeathoftheoldsystem.

TheresalwaysbeenkindofabifurcationinExopolitics,which,Ithink,MichaelandPaolaandIweretalkingabouttoday.Thatis,do

wefocusontheshortGraysandtheReptiliansandtheirreportedplansforexterminationoftwo-thirdsofthehumanracewiththeH1N1virus,orsomeothervirus?Forwhichthereissomepossibleevidencetostartthinkingthatway.Youknow,theresbeenresearchinformallythathassurfacedherethattheremaybenegativeextraterrestrialinfluencebehindthechemtrailsphenomenon,whichIthinkhasbeenmentionedinsomecontextsaspossiblycarryingaprecursoroftheH1N1virus.

Or,doweconcentrateonthepositiveleadingedgeoftheevidence


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thattheresastrategicallianceofethicalupper-dimensionalextraterrestrials--theWhiteHats--Ithink,thatpeopleweretalkingabout?

Icouldeasilyseeascenario,ifwehavethegovernmentthathasthecouragetodoitandIdontknowwhethertheObamaadministrationthathasntbeenabletocloseGuantanamo,whichisablatantwarcrimecoulddothat.

Buttheycouldspinittosay:Look,fornationalsecurityreasons,wehavemaintaineddiplomaticrelations,andwevehadstrategicallianceswiththefollowing...and,fornationalsecurityreasons,wevehadtowithholdthatfromyoufor60years,forthefollowingreasons.

Andtherecouldbeplausiblereasonsthere,includingmilitaryattacksbytheGrays.

Ithinkthatapopulationwouldbemoreinreliefandcelebration,ratherthanreactingviolentlyandwithdespair.

SB:Alfred,whentheUniversityofExopoliticsisfinallyfounded,

wereonlygoingtoletyouteachthegraduatecourses.[laughter]

BOL:Yeah,Iseewhatsgoingonrightnowisthistwo-edgedsword.Thereis,ontheonehand,theperceptionthatangercouldbereleased.Thatwould,obviously,beaperceptionsharedbythosekeepingthesecrets;then,ontheotherhand,atimeofgreatcelebrationforthenewparadigm.Iseeitasaconcomitantprocessthatbothoftheabovewillbehappeningandtherewillbeaperiodofchaos.Itsatimeofcrisisandopportunity,andagrouplikethiscanmediatethosediscussionsandbringitoutintotheopen.

NP:IthinkStevesrightwithhisWhen,What,Whykindofpoint.You

know,inmyexperienceofthemedia,ifanannouncementwasmade,almosttheveryfirstthingisgoingtobe:Whatdotheylooklike?Canweseeapicture?Wheredotheycomefrom?Whatstheirhomelooklike?

Werenotgoingtogetintothesedeeperissuesbeforewevedonetheverybasictabloidstuff.

PH:IagreewithSteve,too.IwanttogoonrecordassayingIwillnotbuyintotheanger,everybody-shooting-each-otherridiculousscenario.[laughs]Ithinkthatpeopleareintelligent,andIthinkthereisathirdthingmighthappen:Somepeoplemaybedontcare.

Because,Ihavespokentoagroupofpeoplethatjustdontgiveadarn,whetheritsannounced,itsnotannounced.Itsnotgoingtoaffecttheirreality.So,itsnotjustrejoicingorletsruninthestreetandkillpeopleandbeangry.

Theresawholelevelofpeoplethathavetoldme:Frankly,Paola,itdoesntaffectmeatall.Andwehavetorememberthosepeople.

NP:Well,Paola,thisprobablyisnttherightthingtosaytoyou,butmaybethisisagoodtimetoquoteJohnAlexander.


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PH:Oh,yes.Iknowwhatyouregoingtosaynow.[laughs]Yes.

NP:Didnthesay,youknow,didntheendapresentationwithallthistalkingaboutDisclosureandsay:Well,JoeBlow,JoeSix-pack,whatever,hisquestionis:DoesanyofthismeanIdonthavetogotoworktomorrow?

KC:Actually,thatsthepoint.Itdoes.Itquitepossiblycouldmeanthat.Andthatsactuallygettingtotherootofthematter.

Whatyouaretalkingaboutisarevolutioninaparadigm.Itmaynotmeanbloodinthestreets,exactly,butitcouldquitepossiblymeanarebellioninconsciousnessthatresultsinpeoplebecomingco-creatorsofthisworldinaconsciousway,suchthattheydontgotoworktomorrow,becausetheyrealizethatoneofthethingsthatcomesoutofUFOsisfreeenergy.

ItopensupthatPandorasBoxsuchthatthepossibilities...becausetheETscomefromaveryadvancedscientificfuture,andthatmuchisobvious.Theyrevisitingus,theyredealingwithourgovernment,thegovernmentsbeendealingwiththem.Thisistheothersideofthat

story,is:Whatdoesitmeanforus?

Andcertainly,intheeyesofthePowersThatBe,willDisclosurehappen?Because,whatitmeansisthatitsarelinquishingofpoweronacertainlevel.Iftheyarenotincompletecontrolofthisworld,becausetheydonthavethehighesttechnology,thehighestintelligence[and]theyrenotthemanontopanymore.Okay?Thenwhosontop?Andthatbecomesthequestion.

So,maybe,JoeSix-packdoesntrealizethatrightoff,butmaybehedoes.Maybe,onasubliminallevel,herealizesthecontrollersarenotincontrol,thatthegamehaschanged,thatitsthrownwideopen,

andthatallthingsaresuddenlypossible,andthatwecanreworkthisthing,andwecanalsotakedownthe...

AsJohnLennonwouldsay,thattherearenocountriesanymore,thattherearenobordersanymore;andthatwearehumansallofus;weareunited--allofus;thatweareOnePeople;andthatthesealiens--wholooklikeus--maybeourbrothersandsistersandfathersandancestors,whateveryouwanttosay.

Itchangestheentireparadigmineveryway.Itslikethecards...

wheredoestheexpansionend?Andthesearethepossibilities.So,whatIwouldsayisthatletstalkabout...

OnceyouopenthedoorofDisclosure,thereisasenseinwhichPandorasBoxwillopen,andthereisnolimittothequestionsthatcanbeasked.Notjustthepeople--likethisinthisroom--willbeaskingthosequestions,butthataveragepeoplewillbe.

MS:Ithinkthatweneedtokindofopenorexpandthevocabulary,


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becausewerekindofassumingthattheresgoingtobeatransitionfromsecrecyordenialtoDisclosure.Ithink,actually,weremissinganintermediatestep,whichisOpenness.TheresgoingtobeatransitionfromDenialtoOpenness;and,afterwevehaveOpennessforafewyears,thenwellhaveDisclosure.

AtthesecretUNmeetingsthatImentioned,thatoccurredinFebruarylastyear,oneofthethingsthathadbeenagreeduponbythenationaldelegatesthatwereattending,wasthat,beginningin2009,theywouldbeginaprocessofinternationalopennessontheseissues.

Whenyoulookatwhatsbeenhappeningoverthisyear,itslike,well,whatwereseeingisnotsomuchDisclosure;whatwereseeingisOpenness.Wereseeingfilesbeingreleased.Wereseeingthemediatacklingtheseissuesinanobjectiveway.Now,Ithink,thatishowyouwillpreparethegroundworkforDisclosure,maybein2011,or2012.

So,Ithinkweneedtokindofacceptthatthepeoplethataremovingforwardareveryrational.Theyrenotgoingtotrytopanicpeople.Theyregoingtotrytopreparepeoplethroughavery-well-thought-outprocessofreleasingmoreandmorestuff,gettinguniversitiestodeal

withtheseissuesinasystematicway...

BR:Therearealotofresearchers--nowturnedtojournalists--beingallowedtodothiswork.

MS:Exactly.So,Ithink,weregoingtohavethisprocessofOpenness,maybe,fortwoyears,threeyears,accelerating.And,then,eventually,weregoingtohaveDisclosure.

Whatyouresaying,likeattheendofthisyear,2009,youknow,byjustreleasingthisCongressionalResearchReport,thatsnotsomuchDisclosure,becausetheydidntfindtheanswersforCarter.Butwhat

theydidwas,theypreparedhimfor:thisiswhatmightbegoingon.

SotheresanOpennessprocessatworkhere,andIthinkthatiswhatwearenowwitnessingandareinthemidstof.

SB:Well,iftheythinktheycanstretchthisoutforthreemoreyears,myhatsofftoem--butIlltakethebet.Right?Imean,whatwasthatphrase?IfyouwanttomakeGodlaugh,tellHeryourplans?Right?

SEVERALVOICES:Right.Yeah,right.

SB:Theyvehad62yearstoplanoutsomething,right?Sothisidea:

Okay,nowwellgothroughenlightyouknow;nah,Idontthinkso.But,letmecommentonsomethingthatKerrysaid,becauseImgoingtogetintothisalittlebitonSunday.Withoutgettingintotheoutcomes,predictinganyoutcomes,IdobelieveandImspeakingfromamorenutsandboltssenseIhavethishunchthatDisclosuremediapresencewilltrigger,verypossibly,thegreatesteraofreforminhistory;goingbacktotheSumer,totheflood.

Inotherwords,itsgoingtocreateakindofcascadingeffectin


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which,becauseofthefactthattheworldsattentionwillsuddenlybefocusedprettymuchinthesamedirection,throughbillionsofeyesfocusinginthesamedirection,theneverythingsortofistossedupintheair,everythinggoesonthetablesuddenlywhichhappensonceinawhile...

Thatthereformistmovementsthatareoutthereandtheresreformistmovementseverywhere,right?Youjustdonthearaboutthem,buttheyreouttherestrugglingalong,workingoutoftheirbasementswillsuddenlybegivenlife,andenergyandmoney.Andyouregoingtosee,literally,asystemic,Ithink,spectral,reformthatwillbestaggeringinitssizeandscope.

Now,willitleadustowonderfulthings?Willitallworkout?WillitbeliketheFrenchRevolutionyoustartoffwithagoodideaand,thenextthingyouknow,youreloppingheads?Idontknow.

But,Iknowthattheopportunityisthere.And,forme,thatsoneofthereasonstokeepgoinganddothis.Itsnotjust:Oh,theylltellustheETsarehere.

Wehaveaworldthathasbasicallybeenshovingstuffundertherugforacoupleofcenturiesputtingthingsinthecloset,stickingthemintheattic,nottakingcareofbusiness,notdealingwithwhat

hastobedoneandthatwasgoingtocatchupwithus.

Ithinkthisisthetriggerthatsuddenlysays:Okay,wevegottocleanoutthebasement;cleanouttheattic;wevegottocutthelawn;wevegottotakecareofbusiness;wevegottocleanupthesecretempire;wevegottostartfilmingtheBilderbergmeetings;wevegottotosstheSkullandBonesidiotsofftheYalecampus.

Wevegottodoalotofthings.Weneedmonetaryreform.WeneeddoctrinalreformintheChristianchurch,theIslamicfaith.Wevegottotakecareofstuff,becausealotofstuffisstupid,right?Itsridiculous.Butwerelockedup.Afterthelastfewthousandyears,werejustcompletelyalllockedupandcantmove.

Andso,yougototheCongressforsomesimplethingandtheCongressisgoing:Icantmove.AndyougototheIslamicfaithandsay:Look,weneedalittlechangehere.Weregoingtohaveaworldthreat--Wecantact.CatholicChurchcantchangeitspolicyonbirthcontrol.Wecantgetanythingdone.

AllofasuddenBOOM--intothis,comesthebiggesteventofalltime.So,whathappensafterthatisuptous.Ijustlookatmyjobastryingtohelppeoplelookandseeand,maybe,bepartofthepost-Disclosureworld.

Butwe,hopefully,earnedourrighttobeonstage;hopefully,weve

earnedtherighttobeheard--butnotnecessarilyso.

Themainstreammaycomeandsay:Look,youguyshavebeenbuggingusaboutthisfor20years.Yeah,youwereright.Nowgoaway.Wehateyou.Right?[laughter]WevegotPhDsfromHarvardandYaleandIvebeenworkingwiththegovernmentfor40yearsandIreallyknowallaboutthisstuff.You-allgoaway.

Wemayhavetostandtogetherhard,becausethemainstreamwillwantustogoaway.Weregoingtohavetofightforourpost-Disclosure


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opportunitiesandpositions,whichiswhyIhopethatthetensionsanddisagreementsthatexist--particularlybetweentheExopoliticalfieldandtheoldguardUFOlogicalfield--dontgetworse.

NP:Isthisthingworthaddressinghere?

SB:Ohyeah.Sure.

PH:Itcouldbeworthaddressing,butcouldIaddsomethingtothat?Iwastold,bypeopleintheIntelligenceCommunity,whentheytriedtohandthephoneovertoPaulHellyer,ex-MinisterofDefence,becausetheyweregoingtotalktohimaboutkeepingquiet.YouknowPaulHellyer,ex-MinisterofDefence?[He]readCorsosbookthatthiswasaveryserioussituationweneededtodealwith.

WewereinHawaiiandthephonewasgoingrightacrossme,andtheysaidtome:Paola,youpeopledonotknowwhatyouredoing.Wevegotithandled.

SB:WhosaidthistoPaul?

PH:TheIntelligenceCommunity.Idontwanttomentionthenames,but

theywerepeoplethatIknowthatareworkingonthatsideofthefenceintheUFOquestion.

SB:Right.

PH:Theyareverywell-knownpeopleandtheirconnectionwithmoney,andsoforth;and,whentheytriedtohandthephonetoPaulHellyerandIwouldletthephonegoby,Isaidhesonhishoneymoon,youcanttalktohimtheysaidtome:Paola,youpeopleareamateurs.Youdonotknowwhatyouretalkingabout.Wehaveithandled.

Now,thewords:wehaveithandled.Andmybrainwasgoing:Whatdoyouhavehandled?[laughter]Whodoyouthinkyouredealingwith?

SB:Yeah,theyhaveitsowell-handledthatwehavetwofineTradeCenterbuildingsinNewYorkjuststandingtallthere.Youcangoseethemrightnow.

PH:Andsohenevergotthephonecallthattime.Hegotitlater,becausetheywantedtomakesuretheytoldhimtocalmdownandstopspeaking.

KC:Okay.But,Ihaveaquestionhere.Ihaveaquestionthatsgoingtoblowthisthingwideopen.

BR:Uh-oh.

KC:Actually,itstwo-pronged,butone:WhatifDisclosureistheonlythingthatcanhappenpriortoarealinvasionscenariothatsbeengoingon,whilewerehereontheplanet,thewholetime?

SB:Thenitwouldbea...

KC:Whatif...

SB:Andit...


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KC:Whatifthedaysarenumberedforthatscenario,thatsrealImpositingitasreal.And,whatifthereisonly,asourrecentwitnessissaying,theresonlyaboutthreeyearsleftonthisplanetbefore--ifwecontinueattherateweregoing--theresno,Idontknow,oxygen;thewholethingistrashed?

Now,whatifwereactuallylivingatimelinethatdoesntjustgoout,stretchingoutthereforallthesedifferenteducationalprocessestotakeplace,butweveactuallyreachedakindofEndGame,inwhichhumanityhasnochoice?Thatachoicehastobemade,andsomepeoplehavedecidedtheyregoingtomakethatchoiceforus?

Whatif?

SB:Well,Kerry,everybodyhastodie.Iwouldratherdieknowingthetruthofthisworld,thandiewithaheadfullofgovernmentlies.

BR:Thatsagood[overtalk].

KC:Okay.ImsayingDisclosurehappens;Disclosureishappening;itshappeningrightheretoday--butwhatImsuggestingissomething

thathasntbeentalkedabout,andisnevertalkedabout,okay?

Wehaveafalse-flagalieninvasion,ontheonehand,thatthegovernment...Because,IdontknowifpeopleouttherehaveseenmyvideosightingthatIhadatLakeGeneva,youknow,onenight,ofthisgiganticcraftthatwasclearly,atleasttome,beingdrivenbynotonlyourguys,butmaybeacoupleReptiliansatthehelm,sotospeak.

Imean,whatyouhavetodealwithisthatwemaybereaching...accordingtothewhistleblowerthatwestartedthiswholeconversation

with,positingthatObamascomingforwardwiththisinformation.Ontopofit,thatsameguy,whoisaninsiderwithwhathesays,isahigherclearancethanpresidents,okay?Hisaccessishigherthanthepresidenttoday.

Andheissaying,numberone:Prepare.

Numbertwo:Youvegotnoideawhattherealstoryis.Thatitsnotevenbeingtalkedabout--eveninourcircles.Westillhaventgottentotheverybottomofthestory.Itinvolvesthingslikerace;likeawhole,hugeslewofrobots,okay?ItinvolvestraveloutsidethisSolarSystemthatwevebeeninvolvedinwe,thegovernment.

Itinvolvessomanydifferentlevels...tosay:Theyvegotithandled.Well,theyjustmight.And,whattheyvegothandledisnotnecessarilysomethinginourfavor.

Youknow,Iknowwerelaughingandtherespossible,andtherecouldbealotofdifferentlevels.Theresafalse-flagidea,butthereareagendasatworkhereandtheremaybethingsthathavenotbeendreamedofhereinyourphilosophy.


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AndIhavetosaythatHenryDeaconissittingoutthereintheaudienceand,atanytimenow,[addressingHenry]becauseyouhaveacertaindegreeofknowing,yourewelcometojoinushere.But,whatwasdrilledintoHenryDeaconfromdayone,oncehejoinedtheseblackprojects,was:Wearethewolvesandtheyarethesheep.Okay?

Theresasensibilityabout...aperceptionabout...anattitudethatgoesbehindthat.AndthatisnottodowithbeingamemberoftheUnitedStatesitsbeingamemberofasecretgovernmentthatsworldwideandhasanagenda.Okay?Andisteachingtheirmilitaryemployeesacertainlineofreasoningthathastodowith:wehavenochoice.

ItsontheGeorgiaGuidestones:WeplantomakethisEarthabetterplaceandthewaywevegoingtodothat,guys,istoeliminate,whatever,two-thirdsofthepopulation?Itsaplan.

ItalsohastodowiththeirrelationshipswiththeseETsthatweresayingweknowarehere.Butdealshavebeenmade.Dealsinournamehavebeenmade,onthegoodsidewiththegoodguysandonthebadsidewithsomeofthebadguysiftheinformationthatweatCamelothavebeengettingistrue.

SoImjustthrowingthisopentomakeitalittlebitwider,alittle

bitmoreoutrageous,andjustseewhat

AW:Yeah.Ithankyouforwideningourconcept.IreallythinkthisiswhatExopoliticsisallabout.

Tobringthisbacktothetopicathand,whichisDisclosure,theresawaythattheDisclosuremovementisthemodernabolitionmovementbywhichslaverywasabolishedintheUnitedStatesbyamovement,anabolitionmovement,whichstartedintheUK,whichthenwentworldwide.Imean,werestillfeelingtheeffectsofit.

FundamentallytheDisclosuremovementshouldbeamovementtofreeus,theslaves,fromourmetaphysicalslaveryatbeingdeniedthetrueconceptofwhatsgoingon,andatstoppinganyplansforourprojecteddemise.Becausewearefreeandsovereignsoulsonthisplanet,inthisdimension,andcitizensoftheGalaxy,andnoothersovereignhastherighttodenythattous.

SotheDisclosuremovementreallytakeson,andhastotakeon,themoralforceandbreadthoftheabolitionmovementthat,incenturiespast,abolishedphysicalslavery.Thisisweretalkingaboutconsciousnessslavery.So,Ireallysupportyourbringinginthatwiderconceptofdiscussion.

SB:Isecondthatinthisregard,andIvebeentalkingaboutthisoflate.IbelievethatandHeglandtalksaboutthis,thePresidentialcandidatethatsplittheTMmovementIbelievethatthesuppressionofrealityfromthecitizensbythestatemeaning:tellingyouthat,say,thesunactuallygoesaroundtheEarthandnottheotherwayaroundisinfactaviolationofnaturallaw.Itviolatesafundamentallaw.Itsbeyondthelawofthestate.

Now,whatdoImeanbythat?Ithinkyouwouldagreethatifany


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nation,anycountry,wereto,say,passalawintheirlegislaturethatyoucouldmurderanybodyyouwantedtomeaning,justkillsomebody,itsokay,itslegalthattheywouldsay:No,no.Whateveryourconstitution,whatever,thatviolatesafundamentalnaturallawthatsbeyondthelawofman,inasense,andyoujustdontdothat.

Well,Ithinkthisisalsotrue.Sothisviolationofactuallydenyingtherealitytothepeople,thereisnolawthatcanjustifyit.Thereisnolawthatmancouldpassthatcanjustifyit.

So,werereallydealingwithsomethingatthattranscendentlevel.And,aslongasthatisthecase,itsvirtuallyatoxicpoisonthatjustseepsdownandcorruptseverything.Everythingyoucanthinkof.

So,ithastoend.Idontcarewhatthewhat-ifsare;itdoesntmatter.Itsimplyhastoend.Right?Andonceitsended,oncethatdenialofrealityisended,wewilltrytodealwithwhat-ifsinthebestwaywecan.

VOICEFROMAUDIENCE:[unclear,lotsofecho]thesecret...andjoinoncetogetherand...bringingthevalues,theUFOissue...theresno...thesecret...[continues,unclear]Whyarethegovernments

keepingsecretsfromthepublic?

BR:Thisisavoicefromtheaudience.Couldyoutelluswhoyouare,becauseyourenotoncamera?

VOICE:What?

KC:Ithinkyouhavetorepeatthequestion.

VOICE:[lotsofecho,barelyaudible]...Itsnoteasy.Ineverycountryintheworldtheyaregoingto...

[camerapanstomanholdingpapersignuptopanel]

KC:Stopthesecrecy.

BR:Topsecret.Oh,Iseethe...thatsverynice.

VOICE:Therearepeople,AlexJonesspeopleandmypeoplehavealotofhelp[unclear]andallarefocusedonthesecrets.Sothatwehavetogotothepointinwhich,denying,thestatestokeepsecretsfromthepublic.Inthismomentwecanjoinallthedifferentmovementsthatarefightinginitsownfightandwecanalltogether,theworldunitedindemonstration.

ThatiswhatIaskofyouall,tohelpmakeaworlddemonstrationin

whichthepublic,thehumankind,deniestothegovernmentstokeepsecretsfromthem....[continues,unclear,lotsofecho]andthenthereisdisparityall

BR:Yeah.Forthesakeofthecamera,pleasetelluswhoyouare.Nobodyknowswhoyouare.

VOICE:[unclear]IwroteabookcalledExtraterrestrialandalltheinformationtheygavetome.Iamasortofyou,butnowsayinSpanishthethingthatyouhavetohearusalso,becauseitsnot,as


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yousaid,somethingfromtheUSA.Youarenotgoingtowinthisfightalone.

BR:Absolutely.

SB:Thatswhywerehere.

VOICE:Weregoingtowin,allofustogether,allofhumankindandthething...[unclear]therearepeoplewhodontcareabouttherestofus.

PH:Whodontcare?[laughs]

VOICE:Theydontcare.But,howcanweapproachtothem?Becauseweareinahigherposition,wehavetoapproachtothem,notthemtous.SowegotoAlexJonesandsay:OK,whatwehaveincommon--whatsecrets?Dothegovernmentshavetherighttokeepsecretsfromthepublic?[unclear]

Aboveall,thisisthereasoningforme:Ifsomethingisgood,whykeepitsecret?Youonlyhavesecretswhenitsbad,no?Ifitsgood,betransparent,beclear,no?

BR:Okay,now

KC:Thatwasmypoint.AndnowMichaelhastoleave.

BR:Michaelhastoleave.Weinviteyoutohavealastword.Idontthinkitsgoingtobethelastword,butitsanopportunityforyoutosayyourpieceherebeforeyouhavetoleave,butIhavethefeelingthatthisconversationisgoingtocontinueforawhile.

SB:What,youvegotanaudiencewiththeking,byanychance,Michael?

BR:Therearealotofpeoplelisteningonaudionow.

MS:Well,Iwanttoemphasizeagainthat,asfarastheUnitedStatesisconcerned,becauseitisthemostpowerfulnationwhenitcomestomanagingtheextraterrestrialsecrets,thattherehasbeenafundamentalstrugglebetween...

Ontheonehand,trans-nationalorganizationsandactorsandtheneoconservativeagendaduringtheBushadministrationwasoneofthefocalpointsofthatandtheconstitutionalforcesintheUnitedStatesgovernment,theso-calledWhiteHats;peopleassociatedtheNavyandtheotherkindofloyalconstitutionalforces.

Now,9/11September11,2001was,Ibelieve,thefirstinaseries

offalse-flagattackswhichwouldculminateinsomethingalongthelinesofanalieninvasion.

Ithinkitwasthefirstofmanyandthereasonitdidnotoccurwasthattheconstitutionalforceswerestrongenoughtopreventthetrans-nationalistsfrommovingforwardwiththissequenceoffalse-flageventsthatwouldculminateinanuclearattackintheUnitedStates,andthenaneventualfalse-flagattack,whichwouldcreateachaosaroundtheworld.


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WiththeObamaadministration,Ithink,whatwehavenowisthattheresanascendancyoftheconstitutionalforces.

So,IamfarmoreoptimisticthatthetransitiontoDisclosureisgoingtobemuchmoreharmonious,muchmorethought-outinawaywherethepublicisproperlyprepared,sothat,whenthetruthfinallydoesemergewhetheritsattheendofthisyear,orinthreeyearstimethatitwillbedoneinawaywherewecanallbeconfidentthattheresnotgoingtobetwo-thirdsofthepopulationwipedoutinsomekindofcataclysmicattacksthatarefalse-flagoperations,butamuchmorepositiveandharmonioustransition.

SoIllleaveonthatveryoptimisticnote.

BR:Thankyou,sir.Welldone.BrianOLeary...

BOL:IwasgoingtosaythatIliveinEcuadorandthegovernmentofEcuador,well,actually,thepeopleofEcuador,justratifiedanewconstitution.Andintheconstitutionandthisisunprecedented,asfarasIknowisthatNaturehasrights.Andalthoughithasntbeenenforcedyet,itsgoingtonaturallaw.

Naturallawisbecomingmoreandmoreofaninspiredcommondenominatoroftheworldcommunityandthatsreallygoodnews,becausetheoppositeextremeistheagendaofBlackOps.

So,IthinkplaceslikeEcuadorcouldbecomeakindofaworldfocusofwhatalternativescanhappen.Now,thegovernmentofEcuadorisalsokickingouttheU.S.AirForce,theMantaAirForceBase,attheendofthisyear.Andtheseareallpositivesignsthattheimperialpowers,thesecrecy,thetrashingoftheEarththatitisbeginningtounravel.Andsonaturallaw,Ithink,needstokindofdictatethefutureagenda.

SB:ThisgentlemanmadeacommentIwanttocommentonveryquickly.

Hepointedatsomething,whichisveryimportant.

TherearerightnowaroundtheworldandintheUnitedStates,many,manyactivistmovementstryingtogetatfundamentalgovernmentliesofsomekindoranother--institutionallies.But,byandlarge,noneofthesemovementsaregettinganywhere.Thesecrecyreformisoneoftheleastfundedofall,buttheyreallpassionateandtheywanttogetforward.

TheETissueis,becauseofitsincredibleprofoundness,hasgotthepotentialtobreakthrough.And,whathappensifwebreakthroughthat

window,thatdoor,theseotherreformistoperationsandsecrecymovementsaregoingtobeabletogothroughandstartworkingtoresolvetheirissues.Inotherwords,itslikesomebodybreakingthroughthelineandeveryonefollowsbehindthem.Thatsnon-trivial.

Therearemany,manylies,manygovernmentsouttherethathavecreatedfalserealitiesandthepeoplehaveachanceto,maybe,dealwiththat,finally.But,wewillbekindofthepointofthespear.If


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thatsthewayitis--thatsthewayitis.But,Itrytokeepthatinmind.

Ihavetriedtonetworkwithsomeoftheseothergroups.Someareenvironment,someareinpeace,landmines,whatever;but,becauseofthestigmaoftheUFOthing,theydonotwanttositandbreakbread.Iunderstandthat.

VOICE:Itsabouthowcanweapproachthe[unclear].

SB:Itsnoteasy,butitsgettingbetter,youknow,andwemaystarttoseemorecollaboration.But,probably,wellseeDisclosurefirst.

Paola,onceDisclosurecomes,Ithinkallofusaregoingtobeverypopular,andpeoplewillwanttocomeandtalkwithus,andwecannetwork,andwewillhopefullyhelpeachotherout.

BR:Thatdbenice.

PH:Iagreewithwhathesays,asfaras:Iremember,duringtheVietnamWar,theNativeAmericanstookoverWoundedKnee.WehadalotofothergroupscomethroughandtherewaschangeinsocietyovertheVietnamWarquestion.Ifyouremember,theNativeAmericanstookup

anddidthesamething.

Howeverthisisadiscussionthatisapartofwhatwevebeentalkingabout.Thereisachapterinmynewbook,AlloftheAbove,calledAlienRacism.Ihavemadesomanymistakes,becauseIdonotknowwhosvisitingus,Idonotknowwheretheycomefrom,andIhavenoideahowtheythink,becausetheyarealien.

AndoneoftheproblemsIvehadwithallofmystoriesisthatIhaveinterviewedpeoplelikeDr.MichaelWolfwhosecontactwasaGray,butitwasababyGraycult;itwasnotTheGray.

ThereareseveraltypesofGrays.ThatparticularGraywasapositiveGray.Itwasfromanotherplace.

AndIhaveinterviewedpeoplewhohavebeencontactedbydifferentracesthatappearugly.AndIdonotthinkthatwehavethetimetosaythisgood,bad,evil,orwhatever.

Iwasveryembarrassedbysomethingthathappenedtome.IwastalkingabouttheReptiliansoverdinnerwithsomeNativeAmericanpeople,andoneofthosewomenwasashaman.Shewasamedicinelady.

Andshesaid:Howdareyou?Shesaid:OurancestorsweretheSerpentPeopleandtheycarriedTheKnowledge.Shesaid:TheSerpentPeoplefromourancestorswerenotevilandtheywereverywisepeople.

Andshesaidtome:QuetzalcoatliscalledplumedserpentinMexico.AlotofcultureshavetheseSerpentPeople.AndwejustcalledallReptiliansevil!

Idliketoknowhowtheywouldthinkofus.Ifwereonanotherplanet,theyshowsomepicturesofusandsay:Thesepeopleareevil,


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theyarepedophile;theyhavesexwiththeirchildren.Thesepeoplearegood,becausethesepeopleareTibetan;whattheydoistheyareTibetanmonksandtheymeditateallday.

Thesejudgmentsontheseracesofalienscannotbemadejustlikethis:good,bad,Reptilian,Gray,blondesbecause,maybe,someoftheblondesandsomeofthePleiadians,whoarecominghere,arenotexactlypositive.So,inmychapter,Isay:Itisaccordingtotheagendaoftheracewhytheyarehere.

Someofthemarehere,maybe,fortheiragenda--likehybridization,becausetheyneedsurvivalandtheyreusingoureggandsperm,becausetheyneedtosurvive.Forthem,thatsgood.Forus,thatsnotsogood;theydidntaskpermission.But,youknow,letslookatthisbeforewegoandbrandReptilians,Blondes,andNordicsaregood

ColonelCorsotoldmetherewere57differentracesofaliens;and,justfromPaola,Ihavetosayaliens,forme,arealien.Ihavenoideahowtheythink.Idonthaveanyideawhytheyrehere,andImnotgoingtotakethegovernmentstestimonyasgospelastowhythesepeoplearehere.

And,whenwegetasangryasIveheardusbe,letsrememberthat

thererewholegroupsthatareherethatarespirituallight-beings.Theyreinterdimensional.Theyarealsoinspiringus.Theyrespirituallight-beingsthatarenot...

Idontknowwhywecallthemaliens.Theyrejustbeings.Theyresoulsfromotherplaces.Whydowebrandthosepeoplealiens?Theyregivingusinspirationeverydaytogoanddothings;and,whethertheyappearaslight,whethertheyappearaspeople,whethertheyappearwhatever...

Tome,Istillthinkweneedtobecarefulaboutalienracismandputtingthatoutthere,becausepeoplearegoingtobeafraid.And

thenIhadanIndianshamanladysaying:WatchwhatyousayabouttheSerpentPeople.

BR:Idliketosupportthatwithapieceofsecond-handtestimonythatIcanreportfromBarbaraLamb,whosdonealotofworkwithExperiencers.ImetherattheConsciousLifeExpoinLosAngelesthisFebruary.

ShetoldmeapersonalstoryabouthowaReptilianhadappearedinherroom,outofnowhere,hadheldherhandandlookedherintheeyefortwominutes,andcommunicatedwithherthathehadbeenbredto

communicatewithcertainpeople,tospreadthemessagethattheyarenotallbad.Andthatsvery,veryinterestingtome.

PH:Wehavetobecareful,becausetheUFOcommunityisputtingeverythinginboxes:thisisthewayitisandthisisthewayitisandthisis...

BR:Becauseitsconvenientforusto...

PH:Well,werehuman.Thatswhywedothat.


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BR:Thatsright.Werealwaysjudgingandwerealwaysputtingthingsinboxesandthetruthmightbemuchmorecomplicatedthanthat.

PH:Ithinkitsverycomplicated.

KC:Well,itisverycomplex,andthankyou,Paola.Ibelievethatthatissomething,that,actually,inthecommunityifyouwanttousethisinaveryloosesensethattherearealldifferentkindsofbeings,thatthatsreallywhatweretalkingabout,andwideningtheperceptionofthekindsofbeingsandthemulti-dimensionalnatureofalloflife,usincluded.

Thatswhatwereheretotalkabout.Thatswhatwereopeningthedoorsto.Whathappensis--youreright,whenitgetstosovereignty,thatsoneofthemostimportantaspectsofwhatweretalkingabouthere.

Whatweretalkingabouthereisatransitionthatweregoingthrough,humanityandtheplanet.Infact,possiblytheGalaxy;galaxies,areallinastateofevolution,ETsincluded,okay?

ETs,interdimensionals,younameit;theyreallspiritsinhabitingbodies,inhabitinglightbodies,ifyouwill.Itjustdepends.Were

allspirit.

So,atanyrate,whatBrianssayingisalsovalid.Inotherwords,thisisGaia,thisEarth,andweneedtoactuallyprotecther,allowhertothrive.Andthishasbeenheldinslaveryfortoolong.Okay?Thisbeing,thiswholebeingwecalltheEarth,isabeing.

So,actually,youknow,itisamovementtowardsfreedom,ofbreakingthechains.Itgetsthatwide,butitsalsoaquestiontobeaskedofevery,youknow,visiting...evenpeoplethatarehere,evensubterraneanbeings.

Weretalkingabout:IstheEarthandishumanityallowedsovereignty?

Areweeachindividuallyallowedsovereigntytogrowandthrivetothebestabilitythatwehavetodoso?

BR:Andcanweassure[orshow?]thatwerecapableofit?

KC:Weredoingsoatthemoment,Iwouldsurmise.But,youknow,whatweresayinghereis,basically,thatsomeofthesebeingsarecomingherewithanagenda,justlikesomeofthecontrollers,so-called,whateveryouwanttotermthesepeople.Theyarenotalien;theyareus.Okay?Nonethelesstheyhavechosentocontrol.Andwehavegiventhemthatabilitytocontrol.

Weretakingitback,slowly,butsurely.Thatswhatitsallabout,istakingbackthecontrolofourownsovereigntyandsaying:No!Enough!Youwontmakedecisionsforus.Weareco-creatorsandweregoingtodothistogether.

But,nottoalsoallowmoreadvancedracestotakeusover,todetermineourpath,etcetera,etcetera.So,therearemanylevelstothisExopoliticalviewofhowweredealingwiththisfuturethatwerefastapproaching.


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BR:IwasgoingtosaythatImthinkingthatweneedtowrapthisquitesoon,because,otherwise,wewonthaveanythingtotalkaboutthisweekend.[laughter]Andthisisthestartofaconversation,ratherthanthefinishofone.

IwasgoingtoproposethatAlfred,asthefounderofthetermExopolitics,mightusefullybeabletomakealittlefinalsummation,ifsuchathingispossible,andthenwecancontinuethisconversationelsewhereandelse-when.

AW:Well,Iwillattemptone,butIwillbeveryhumble.[laughs]Ithinkthatwhatwehavetouchedinthisconversationreallyisareflectionofthemulti-dimensionality,asyouweresaying,ofthemultiverserealityinwhichwelive.

AndExopoliticsasasocialsciencethescienceofrelationsbetweenourhumancivilizationandotherintelligent,highlyintelligent,civilizationsinthemultiversecanserveasaninterface.WewereallabletoencapsulateandholdthisentireconversationwithinthedisciplineofExopolitics,aswewouldhavewithinthedisciplineofAnthropology,werewestudyingsometribethatwehaddiscoveredonanisland.

SoIwanttothankyouforadvancingthedisciplineinthisconversationandwelookforwardtomanymoreinitsevolution.BR:Steve...?

SB:Idontwantto...notwrapitbut,rather,Iwanttoputsomethingontherecord,sincewereoncamerathatIthinkisimportant.Ishouldhavedoneitsooner.Forgiveme.

Namelythis:thattheumbrellaofExopoliticsallowsustoengageamuchbroader,almostinfinite,arrayofissuesofpast,present,andfuturewithoutquestion,andthatswhereIwanttobe.

But,Ithink,wemustrememberthatallofusstandontheshoulders

ofagroupofindividualswhoplowedthroughthisissue,startinginthe40s,fromprimarilyapureresearchkindofforensicapproachscientificcreatingorganizations,anddoingresearchandsightingreportsandwhathaveyou.

Andtheyhadtodothisduringtheheartofthetruthembargo,whenthegovernmentwasabsolutelyopposedineverywaytothisgoingforward.Itwasbrutal.Itwasdifficult.Andmanyofthemhaventlivetoseethiskindofdiscussion.

Wejustlostsuchapersonrecently,justafewdaysagoRichardHall,legendaryresearcherdied.Othersaregoingtodie.

Asithappensandthisisnotsurprising;itshappenedbeforeaswetransitionfromtheUFOResearchEratotheExopoliticalEra,veryserioustensionshavedevelopedbetweentheseold-guardresearchersandtheExopoliticalactivistsandwhathaveyou.Theyrenotfoundless.Therearereasonsforitandtheyneedtobeappreciatedandtheyregrowing.

IwantedtobeclearthatI,forone,knowthat,withoutthem,IcouldntbedoingwhatImdoing,andIhaveeveryintentionasthisgoesforward...


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Ivebeengracedwiththeopportunitytodolotsofmediaandgetoutthere.Okay,fine.ButasthisthingculminatesandwemovepastDisclosure,IhaveeveryintentiontodoeverythingIcantoensurethattheseresearchers,thesefoundingfathersandmothersofUFOlogy,aregiventhecreditthattheydeserve.

Thattheyareabletoparticipateinthepost-Disclosureworldandnotbeshutoutbyabunchofsmart-assscientistsfromHarvardthatjustgotreligion;thattheywillberespectedandhonored.ThisisimportantandIwanttoputthatontherecord.Thankyou.

BR:Hear,hear!Wonderful.Thatsright.Werestandingontheshouldersofgiantshere.Therearealotofverybravemen.Oneofthenamesthatimmediatelyoccurredtomewhenyousaythat,ofcourse,isDonaldKehoe...

PH:Yes,[unclear]?

SB:Sure.

BR:...andhiswhole...Theywereheroesall.

SB:Kehoe.Hynek.

PH:McDonald.

SB:McDonald.Butthererealotofthem.Berlinerand,ah...

BR:Itsahugelist.

BS:OhGod,Imsorry.Thenameescapesme.Butthereareplentystillalive.

AW:Yeah.Dr.JohnMack.

PH:JohnMack.Yeah.

BR:Absolutely.WevegotabunchofthemthatwepaytributetoontheCamelotsite,andtherearemanymorewhowemayneverevenknowabout.Itsateameffort,andmanyofthesepeoplewhohavegonebeforeus...andIhopethatnottoomanywillhavetogoafterus,because,withalittlebitofluck,wemightbeabletowrapthisthingup,betweenus.

Therearepeopleallovertheworld,manydifferentcountries,manynationalities,peopleofdifferentexperience,differentcolor.Wereallworkingtogetheronthis,becausethisisaboutthehumanrace,

andthisisathingthatwehavetoworktogetheron.

SB:Iwishtherewasawaytoreconcile,thatweallgettogetheronthesamepage,but,Ithink,itsjustthenatureofthingsthatthatsnotprobablygoingtohappen.But,itwonthurtif,whenwehavetheopportunity,toacknowledgethemthebestwecan.Ithinkthatwillhelp,andwellseewherethingsgo.

VOICE:Inrelationtomanyofmypeopleinthisconference,becausetherearenot...[unclear]...thereisanissueofgettingmypeople.


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IthinkthatGaryMcKinnon

SB:Idontknowtheperson.

PH:GaryMcKinnon.

SB:Oh,GaryMcKinnon.

[manyvoicesoverlapping]

VOICE:[unclear]wehaveto[unclear]...somebodytosaysomething.

SB:YouthinksomebodysgoingtomentiontheGaryMcKinnoncase?

KC:Well,GaryMcKinnonhasbeengetting...

VOICE:[unclear]

SB:[unclear]agreement,probably.

KC:Well,weinterviewedGaryMcKinnon,andyoucertainlyarewelcometoviewhisvideoonourwebsite.HesgettingalotofattentionintheUK.Hesgotalotofwell-knownmusiciansnowbackinghim.

TherehavebeenfairlysuccessfulmovestokeephimfrombeingextraditedfromtheUKtotheUStostandtrial.Whetherornotthatwillultimatelybesuccessful,Ithinkthereisafinalrulingcomingthrough,actuallyinthenextweekortwo,Iwastold.SoIdontknowwherethatsgoingtogo.

TheyveputthroughanumberofdifferentdefensesforGary.WeatCamelotwereconsultingbehindthescenesonthat.

However,IhavetosaythatGaryMcKinnonandhisgroupdecided,intermsofdefendinghim,nottoraisetherealcardthatheholds,whichisthathefoundevidenceoffleet-to-fleettransfersand

off-planet,non-terrestrialofficersthatindicatedwhatweknowofasthesecretspaceprogram,andthereforetheydecidednottousethatinhisdefense.Okay?Thatwasprettymuchpushedtotheside.

TheyareusinganotherdefensethatweatCamelotdidnotrecommend,butwewishhimtheabsolutebest.Hesabrilliantmusician,Ihavetosay.Ifyouhaventheardhismusic,Iencourageyoutodoso.

But,ontopofthat,hesalsoabrilliantmind,andhedidcomeacrosssomeveryinterestinginformationwhenhedidhishacking;andhewasverynave.Hewasincrediblybrilliantatthesametimeasbeingnave.But,hesbeingusedasascapegoatbythePowersThat

Be.

Whathecouldhavedonewastoactuallytakethisissuethatwerealldiscussingrighthereandnowintoacourtroom,whichmighthaveresultedinDisclosureonawholedifferentlevel;but,atthemoment,itdoesntappearthatsgoingtohappen.Okay?

Now,whetherhewillbesavedbecausehewentthisotherroute,Idontknow.Butinanswertoyourquestion,thatsthestorywithGary


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McKinnon.

VOICE:Well,Iwanttoasktomakeamentionofhimandthisissue.

SB:ImsureDavidGriffinisgoingtomentionhim.HeisExopoliticsUnitedKingdom.IthinkhesspeakingonSunday.

VOICE:BecauseIthinkwehavetotakehimasourheroandastheproof.Whyishestillinjailifhedidntfindanything?So,showareferencetohimandthegovernment[unclear]

BR:Wecandothat,andwejusthave.

VOICE:[unclear,overtalk]

KC:Well,weregoingoutovertheairways.

BR:Wejusthave.

VOICE:[unclear]Manhastherightas[unclear]hisownself,therightofhumankindofknowingthesesecrets.

BR:Yes.

KC:Thatsright.

BR:Buthesoneofmanyheroes.Thisisthepoint.

[voicecontinuestoovertalk]

BR/KC:Yes.Yeah.

VOICE:[unclear]meetalltogetherintwohoursmakeashortstatementandthereisgoingtobealotofpressconferencehere[unclear]

KC:Werehappytoraiseittomorrowinthepressconference.Were

happytodothis.WellraisetheGaryMcKinnonstory.

SB:Well,thepresscanraiseit.Letthemask.

VOICE:Donttalkbyyourself,asmedia,asagroup,okay?LetsmeetalltogetherandsaywearegoingtosaysomethingaboutGaryMcKinnon,andherepresentshumankindandwantstoknowthiskindofsecret.

KC:Desiretoknowthetruth.

SB:GaryMcKinnonisnotgoingtobeextradited.TheObamaadministrationhasnodesiretodothat.Thereasontheyhaventdone

anythingimmediatelyisbecauseitwouldlookawkward.Itslikeamatterofpriorityofissuesandso...butitsinconceivabletomethatitwillhappen.

But,ofcourse,hehasgonethroughalot;but,thatsaid,I,forone,donotsupportorencourageanybodytohackintogovernmentcomputersforanyreason.Right?Itisaformofcivildisobedience.Ifyoudoit,bepreparedtopaytheprice.


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VOICE:Whynot?Theyhackintoours.[laughter]

SB:Andtheyshouldpaythepriceforthat,right?

VOICE:[continuestalking/unclear/othervoicesoverlapping]

KC:Letssee,theresasaying,andsomebody,ifIgetthequotewrong,cancorrectme:Inatimeofdeceit,actingindefenseofthetruthisarevolutionaryact.

BR:Tellingthetruthisarevolutionaryact--thatwasGeorgeOrwell.

KC:AndIhavetosaythatthat,inmyopinion,whatGaryMcKinnonhasdone,andthat,ifwegofast-forwardtothefuture,letssay,theyear2050,whenweallknowthetruth,GaryMcKinnonwillbeintheforefrontasoneofthepeoplethatwehavetothankasarevolutionaryforbeingahacker.

Thatsmyopinionofit,okay?AndIunderstandthat,Steve,youhaveadifferentview.

SB:No,no.Imjustsaying

[voicesoverlapping/unclear]

SB:Idontwanthimtobeharmed.

BR:Steveissayingthat...

KC:But,whatweareallabouthereisgettingtothetruth.Thatswhatthisdiscussionhasbeenabout.Weareclaimingourrighttoknowthesecretsandthereisareasonforthat.

So,withthat,isthereanyoneelsethatwantstosayaclosing

statementorasuggestionor...

BR:IwantBriantosaythelastword.

BOL:Well,justaquickremarkandthatisthatalmosteverythingthatappliestoET/UFO/Disclosurealsoappliestofreeenergy.Itsamazinghowparallelandsimilartheyare.Itsalsoamazinghowmanyheroesinthefreeenergyfieldwhovebeenassassinated,whovebeenthreatened.

Now,itstimeforusalltostandandbecounted,andtocreatetherevolutionpeacefulrevolution.

KC:Itsarevolutioninconsciousness.

BOL:Yes.

BR:Wonderful.

SB:TheTruth!Whataconcept!

BOL:Itllsetusfree;but,first,itllpissusoff.


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KC:[laughs]

SB:Right.Okay.Thanks,Kerry.Iappreciateitverymuch.

KC:Okay,thankyou.Thankyouvery,verymuch.

AW:Thankyousomuch.

BR:Thankyou,Alfred.

[crosstalk,musicfadesin]

BR:Goodjob.

SB:...outintheworld...youguysarethehardest-workingpeopleinthefield.

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