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+

5 Myths of US Healthcare:

Obamacare, Trumpcare, and the Future

Ashish K. Jha, MD, MPH

February 28, 2020

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+ Agenda

Obamacare: myths 1 and 2

Trumpcare: myth 3

Why US spends so much more: myth 4

What the future will bring: myth 5

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+Why myths about

Obamacare?

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+ What are the facts?

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+ Myth #1:

The ACA was a hodgepodge of

policy ideas

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+ Let’s imagine it’s 28/02/2010

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+Problems of US Healthcare 2010

Problems around access

Problems around costs

Problems around quality

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+Problems of access, 2010

47 million (15%) uninsured Americans

Another 30-50 million underinsured

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+Who were the uninsured?

Young people

The working poor

Chronically ill (pre-existing conditions)

Undocumented immigrants

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+ACA or “Obamacare”

Two bills in one:

Expand Coverage

Fix the healthcare

delivery system

Access Cost & Quality

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+ Myth #1:

The ACA was a hodgepodge of

policy ideas

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+ACA or “Obamacare”

Expand Coverage

Access

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+What did ACA do for coverage?

<26 year can stay on parents’ insurance

Medicaid expansion up to 138% of FPL

Insurance exchanges with subsidies

Community rating

Essential Health benefits

Individual mandate

Insurance Reform

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+The ACA & who is not covered

Young people

The working poor

Chronically ill (pre-existing

conditions)

Undocumented immigrants

<26 policy

Medicaid

expansion

Insurance

Reforms/

Exchanges

?

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+ Did it work?

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+

16.1%

8.6%9.0%

0%

2%

4%

6%

8%

10%

12%

14%

16%

18%

U.S. Uninsured Rate1997-2018

Centers for Medicare & Medicaid Services, KFF

ACA

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+ What’s the HC cost problem?

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+

$2,035

$2,167

$2,304

$2,414

$2,506

$2,604

$1,800

$1,900

$2,000

$2,100

$2,200

$2,300

$2,400

$2,500

$2,600

$2,700

2005 2006 2007 2008 2009 2010

National Health Expenditures (billions)

U.S. healthcare spending: 2005-10

Centers for Medicare & Medicaid Services

+7%

+6%

+5%

+4%

+4%

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+ ACA’s efforts to improve care

delivery

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+ The ACA & Delivery Reform

Change how we pay for things

Value-based payments of various types

Hold providers accountable

Accountable Care Organizations

Bundled payments

Enable innovation

CMMI

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+ Myth #2:

The ACA slowed HC spending

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+ Total U.S. healthcare spending

Centers for Medicare & Medicaid Services

$2,024,000

$3,649,000

$0

$500,000

$1,000,000

$1,500,000

$2,000,000

$2,500,000

$3,000,000

$3,500,000

$4,000,000

2005 2006 2007 2008 2009 2010 2011 2012 2013 2014 2015 2016 2017 2018

National Health Expenditures (millions)

+36% growth

between 2011

and 2018

ACA

+23% growth

between 2005

and 2009

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+ Delivery reform

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+ Pay-for-Performance programs

Series of hospital and physician P4P programs

Hospital VBP, Readmissions, HACs, etc.

They have largely failed

No impact on costs or quality

Negative effects on safety-net, teaching hospitals

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+ But…its not a total myth

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+ Bundled Payments, ACOs

Bundles for surgery: about 2% decrease in spending

Somewhat better patient experience

Accountable Care Organizations

2-5% savings compared to non-ACOs

Modestly better patient experience

Dummit JAMA 2016, Joynt et al NEJM 2018, Navathe Health Affairs 2020, Navathe Health Affairs 2018

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+ Myth #3:

Trump administration has done

nothing good on health policy

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+Headline March 25, 2017

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+ Trump years: visible efforts

Lots of efforts to repeal, replace ACA

Each effort has failed

Has been a political disaster for the GOP

No sign that they have a real replacement plan

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+ Trump years: less visible efforts

CMS policy efforts

Price transparency rules coming into effect (big deal)

Moving forward on ACOs, Bundles

Pushing interoperability and making IT systems better

Taking on special interests around safety, quality (i.e. TJC)

Etc.

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+ Myth #4:

The main problem of US

healthcare is overutilization

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+

17.1

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+ Why such high spending?

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+ Why such high spending?

Fragmentation

Fee-for-service

For-profit greed

Lack of transparency

Not enough “skin in the game”

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+

Total Spending = Quantity X Price

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+

Total Spending = Quantity X Price

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+ But is overutilization the main

problem of US Healthcare?

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+ Do we use more care than others?

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+ Theory: Overutilization

We are quick to go to the doctor

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+ Doctor visits

12.7

10

8.27.7 7.6

6.6 6.4

5

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+ Theory: Overutilization

Not enough prevention and primary care

leads to too many hospitalizations

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+ Hospital discharges

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128 125119

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+ Theory: Overutilization

We use too many tests and procedures

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+ MRI examinations

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+ Total knee replacement

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+ Total hip replacement292

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+Coronary angioplasty

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+Higher utilization is not the issue

US has fewer hospitalizations, doctor visits

Tests and Procedures a mixed bag:

We do a lot more MRIs, TKRs, and PTCAs

We do fewer hip replacements

Bottom line:

We’re above average on some things

We’re below average on other things

On average, we are pretty average

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+ So what is it?

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+

Total Spending = Quantity X Price

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+ Hypothesis: It’s the prices….

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+

$1,443

$939

$837$779

$749$697 $675 $667

$613$566 $560

$466

$0

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+

$844

$483

$383

$233

$85

$0

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$400

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$600

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$900

US New Zealand Switzerland South Africa Spain

CT Scan Abdomen

International Federation of Health Plans 2015

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+

$15,930

$6,199 $6,040

$3,814

$2,003 $1,786

$0

$2,000

$4,000

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$10,000

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US New Zealand Switzerland Australia Spain South Africa

Appendectomy

International Federation of Health Plans 2015

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$218K

$154K$146K

$134K $133K$124K

$111K $109K $108K

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$0

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US DE CA UK Mean JP FR NL AU SE

Generalist Physician Salaries

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$316K

$202K$191K $188K $182K $181K

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+

$74K

$65K $64K

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US NL AU DK CA DE Mean UK JP FR

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+ What’s the HC spending problem?

To quote Uwe Reinhardt: It’s the prices, stupid

Policymakers have almost entire ignored

And that’s why we have made too little progress

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+ 2020 shaping up to be the

healthcare election

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+Myth #5:

Following the 2020 election, the

US will make finally get national

health reform

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+

“I think we should look to

countries like Denmark…”

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+ Reality on the ground

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+

Republican president

Republican SenateDemocratic president

Republican Senate

Democratic president

Democratic Senate

• Strengthen the ACA

• Stronger subsidies

• Better outreach for

enrollment

• Pushing states to

expand Medicaid

• Introduction of

Medicare For All

• Possible new public

option.

• Strengthening of ACA

• New repeal of ACA

• No replacement means

ACA survives again

• Movement toward state-

based reform

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+ 2021 won’t be big HC year

Three issues

1. No political appetite for radical changes

2. HC costs big issue – with specific areas of focus

1. Drugs

2. Out of network billing

3. Dems won’t want to waste big political capital

and GOP has no ideas for replacement!

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+ Summary

The ACA has provided a starting point

Elegantly designed to target specific issues

Has increased coverage but not done much on costs

The Trump Administration has been active on C&Q

Continuing many of the ACA ideas

Pushing new ones

Tackling prices will be critical

2021 is not HC revolution – but an evolution towards a

better, more universal system

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+ Governance, administrative spending

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