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Moving to SAP Business Planning and
Consolidation: echnical ips and Advice onSAP BPC !"."/!".! Migration and#mplementation
What will change when moving from Excel-based budgeting and planning to an integrated SAP
Business Planning and Consolidation platform? ow do !ou prepare" and which BPC release will
!ou choose?
BPC experts and Financials 2014 Singaporespea#ers Puneet $upta" %ranthi %umar and
San&eev 'ehta of CP' Consulting too# reader (uestions in this )*A on planning for an SAP BPC
implementation or migration+
,iew the chat repla! here to review this online )*A+ ou can also read the edited transcript" below"
where we.ve highlighted a few #e! areas of (uestions - basic overview of BPC /0+0 and /0+/" BPC
features and changes from previous releases" BPC integration with other solutions and tools" and a
number of (uestions on BPC scripting including 123+
Allison Martin, SAPinsider, Financials 2014: Welcome to toda!4s chat on moving to SAP
Business Planning and Consolidation /0+0 and /0+/+
54m pleased to be &oined b! Puneet $upta" %ranthi %umar" and San&eev 'ehta" of CP' Consulting+
6hese three EP' consultants and experts are also spea#ers at our upcoming 1inancials 70/8
event in Singapore+
Puneet $upta is 'anaging Partner and a co-founder of CP' Consulting+ %ranthi %umar" Associate
Partner" CP' Consulting" brings a special focus on EP' and SAP Process Control+ And San&eev
'ehta leads the Consolidation practice" with more than /9 !ears of SAP and 1inance experience+
$entlemen" than# !ou for &oining us:
Sanjeev Mehta, CPM Consulting:Allison" it is our pleasure to be &oining !ou toda!+
Puneet Gupta, CPM Consulting: i" all+ app! to &oin the chat toda!+
Allison Martin: Puneet" %ranthi" and San&eev" readers started posting (uestions for !ou last wee#"
so we4ll let !ou respond to those now:
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BPC !"." and !".! $verview
Coent Fro C! Chiu
Could "ou please e#plain: $hat is %PC&
Sanjeev Mehta:SAP BPC is SAP Business Planning and Consolidation+ 5t is an integrated tool
which supports ;egal Consolidation" 'anagement A planning functionalit! previousl! #nown as PA% or FPlanning Applications %itF
where a lot of the BW 5ntegrated Planning capabilities got pushed down into A>AD+
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6he nified model also includes functionalit! found in BPC /0+0 and the Classic odel such as
Business Process 1lows and Wor# Status+ Both the Classic and nified models share use of the
EP' Add-5n for Excel similar to SAP BPC /0+0D+
Coent Fro (arthi
$hat is the di++erence et)een -P and %PC&
Puneet Gupta: 5n BPC /0+0 >W" 5P concepts are foreign or have a logical e(uivalent+ 1or
example" Characteristic A " including Gata Slices and Characteristic
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ou will find the bigger differences with the new Fnified Embedded 'odelF option which is ver!
similar to SAP BW.s planning capabilities #nown as F5ntegrated PlanningF but leverages and
therefore re(uiresD A>A planning functionalit! previousl! #nown as PA% or FPlanning
Applications %itF where a lot of the BW 5ntegrated Planning capabilities got pushed down into
A>AD+ 6he Fnified 'odelF also includes functionalit! found in BPC /0+0 and the FClassic 'odelF
such as FBusiness Process 1lowsF and FWor# StatusF+ Both the FClassicF and FnifiedF 'odels
share use of the EP' Add-5n for Excel similar to SAP BPC /0+0D+
Coent Fro C! Chiu
Could "ou please highlight ne) +unctions in version 10*1&
Sanjeev Mehta:All the features and functionalities of previous versions of BPC are available in
BPC /0+/+
BPC /0+/ has the following new features
- A >EW 6';@ Web Client for smoother navigation and mobile readiness+
- A >EW Embedded model with tighter integration with SAP Business Warehouse to maximie
investment+
5n order to answer the (uestion there is a #e! distinction to be made between the Fnified 'odelF
and FClassic 'odelF in SAP BPC /0+/+
6he FClassic 'odelF is ver! similar to SAP BPC /0+0 with new functionalit! in the web interface
based on 6';@ instead of Adobe 1lex technolog! in order to better support mobile devices along
with EP' nwiredD+
ou will find the bigger differences with the new Fnified 'odelF option which is ver! similar to SAP
BW.s planning capabilities #nown as F5ntegrated PlanningF but leverages and therefore re(uiresD
A>A planning functionalit! previousl! #nown as PA% or FPlanning Applications %itF where a lot of
the BW 5ntegrated Planning capabilities got pushed down into A>AD+ 6he Fnified 'odelF also
includes functionalit! found in BPC /0+0 and the FClassic 'odelF such as FBusiness Process
1lowsF and FWor# StatusF+ Both the FClassicF and FnifiedF 'odels share use of the EP' Add-5n for
Excel similar to SAP BPC /0+0D+
Coent Fro nag
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Are there are an" signi+icant changes3iproveents3ne) +eatures in 10*1 Classic copared
to 10*0 '$, other than ne) -&
(arthi5 A6: es" BPC /0+/ classic has got a new web interface in Classic StandardD+ 5t also
enables !ou to wor# along with the nified EmbeddedD model" which will help !ou gain the
benefits of B5-5PPA% features too+
Coent Fro Mohaed -l"as Ansari
$hat are the shortcoings3liitations o+ the %PC 10*1 uni+ied odel as copared to %PC
10&
Sanjeev Mehta:1irst of all" BPC /0+/ unified * BPC /0 which uses the classic approachD are
different in man! aspects+
As of now" BPC /0+/ unified still uses BW modelling functionalities * EP' Add-in is used primaril!
for reporting+ So as such we cannot point out limitations+ But !ou can sa! BPC /0+/ has all its
modelling done in BW and does not support functionalities li#e wor# status" &ournals" consolidation"
etc+
Coent Fro C! Chiu
$hat is di++erence et)een %PS and %PC&
Sanjeev Mehta:BPC is a single" unified" and integrated platform for all !our planning" budgeting"
forecasting" and consolidation re(uirements+
BPC is a business-driven environment" rather than 56-driven+ 1or an! 56 owned s!stems" a ver!
significant pain point for an end user is having to wait for 56 to ma#e their re(uested changes+Because BPC can be maintained b! the business" it puts the power bac# in their hands+ BPC is
seamlessl! integrated with 'S 2ffice tools+
Coent Fro 7d
Can "ou coent on the use o+ eedded %PC and client strateg"&
Sanjeev Mehta:Customers evaluating the BPC embedded model coming from a BPC H+3/0+0B5-
5P environment can ta#e advantage of new features" such as
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Geeper BW 5ntegration I Abilit! to access data and masterdata from infocubes based on similar
'ultiple %e! 1igureD data structure
Planning Sessions I Creation of JWhat-5fK scenarios based on full data sets" optimied b! SAP
A>A
'atrix Securit!
Calculated %e! 1igures 5nverse 1ormulas - Gimension members defined b! a formulaL with
input enablement
Cell ;oc#ing - %eep measure values fixed upon calculations when performing items such as
disaggregations or inverse formulas
5n short " BPC embedded is more applicable for customers familiar with the B5-5P environment+
BPC %eatures& Changes ' #mprovements
Coent Fro 8aniel 6uvinao
he use o+ eer +orulas is not a recoended practice in ters o+ per+orance or in
the ne) version* 8oes 10*1 have an iproveent +or this +eature&
Sanjeev Mehta:6here have been significant performance enhancements for member formulas+
6hough having member formulas is not a recommended practice" the! might be hand! in certain
scenarios+
Also" SAP is now wor#ing to move member formula execution to the A>A la!er to improve
performance+ But this is still a wor# in progress+
Coent Fro 6avier
/o) has legal consolidation changed in the latest versions o+ SAP %PC&
Sanjeev Mehta:5t depends on the version we are comparing with+++
1rom BPC /0+0 onward" SAP introduced Consolidation 'anager+ Additionall! on the Consolidation
Business rules" the! have included new rules to address e(uit! pic#up scenarios as re(uired b!
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Coent Fro Ghassan Al9/ashe
Can %PC utilie a set o+ (P-s against strategic ojectives and goals&
Puneet Gupta:Although BPC can be used for this re(uirement" the product SS' SAP Strateg!
'anagementD is the better fit for setting and trac#ing various %P5s against strategic ob&ectives and
goals+
Coent Fro Ghassan Al9/ashe
8oes %PC support te#t +ields as planning input& - ean to have te#t +ields as planning input
9 not nueric 9 and e suaried, reported*
Puneet Gupta: es+ BPC has the powerful feature of capturing comments against !our planning
data+
Planning data can onl! be numeric+ owever" !ou can use comments to support !our planning
inputs+ Comments can even be stored at the higher levels in !our dimension hierarch!+
Coent Fro Ghassan Al9/ashe
Can %PC utilied +or all planning t"pes, CAP7; and .P7;, +or strategic, long, id and short
ter plans&
Puneet Gupta: es+ We have done numerous successful implementations of these natures+
Coent Fro Saurah
Can )e use the standard SAP ojects li5e 0ACC.' or 0C.MP
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Coent Fro 'iranjan (aishetti
$hat are changes in securit" levels in %PC 10*1&
Sanjeev Mehta: SAP BPC /0+/ standard securit! wor#s in the same wa! as BPC /0+0 securit!which is integrated to >W securit!D+ 5n case of /0+/" embedded authoriations are controlled
currentl! at the BW level+
Coent Fro 6avier
8oes the 10*1 uni+ied version handle a 5e" +igure odel =i* e*, ultiple 5e" +igures +or one
record>&
(arthi5 A6,CPM Consulting: es" /0+/ nified EmbeddedD models run on #e!-figure modeling+
Coent Fro Chandra
8oes 10*1 uni+ied odel support consolidation&
Sanjeev Mehta:es+ 6he /0+/ nified 'odel does not have consolidation" for which !ou can use/0+/ Classic+ 6he /0+/ nified Embedded 'odel is leveraging B5 - 5P" with stronger integration
with BW+
Coent Fro Archana
Can %Ad-s e )ritten on /A'A dataase +or per+orance iproveent in %PC 10*1&
Puneet Gupta: ou can implement the calculations using native A>A S); Script that is triggered
through an ABAP BAd5" which in turn is as usualD triggered via Script ;ogic+ 6he ABAP BAd5 is also
able to pass the calculation context e+g+ Entit!" Categor!" 6imeD to the A>A procedure in order to
limit the calculation4s data range+
Coent Fro Archana
-s there a change in signed data?s length in %PC 10*1&
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Sanjeev Mehta:Are !ou loo#ing for large #e! figures in BPC? 5f !es" then !ou can loo# at the note
/M7N7NH - ;arge %e! 1igure support for Planning and Consolidation /0+0+
Coent Fro 6enn"
Can )e autoate the propt selections )hen running the data anager pac5age in the
7PM add9in&
Puneet Gupta: 6he standard feature of BPC doesn4t support this flexibilit!+ owever" it can be
customied to cater to this re(uirement+
BPC #ntegration with ()cel& B#& and$ther Solutions ' ools
Coent Fro (athrin
/o) does integration )ith SAP G@C )or5&
Sanjeev Mehta: BPC uses >W authoriations+ 5ntegration of $W+
ou can create BPC roles in !our own namespace and these roles can be assigned via SAP $
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Sanjeev Mehta:BPC has seamless integration with 'icrosoft tools li#e Excel+ So the Excel-based
tool can be easil! used to load data in BPC" e+g+" through 5nput form 2< uploading the file to BPC+
Coent Fro (athrin
$hat reporting to visualiation is t"picall" done using %PC onl", and )hat is done using
other %usiness.jects tools&
Sanjeev Mehta: With seamless integration of BPC with 'S 2ffice tools" it is eas! to create
chartsvisualisations" using the 'S 2ffice products+ Business2b&ects tools li#e Gashboards can be
used" extensivel!" for various Gashboarding re(uirements" which is" again" seamlessl! integrated
with BPC+
Coent Fro Pra5ash
8oes %PC 10*1 support AP. as )ell +or suppl" chain planning 8P and SP&
Sanjeev Mehta: 6here is no direct lin# between BPC /0+/ * AP2 or suppl! chain planning+ 6hese
two planning solutions use the >W platform and can be integrated b! leveraging the BW integration
capabilities of both planning solutions+
Coent Fro Mei"alagan
-n %PC 10*1 ni+ied Model, is the %$ in+o.ject used directl" as a %PC 8iension&
Puneet Gupta: es+ 6he advantage of the unified model is that it can leverage on the existing BW
info2b&ects" to ensure a stronger integration with BW s!stem+
Coent Fro Perr"
Currentl" )e are to load diension eers +ro %$ aster data* /o) can "ou load the
[email protected] diension eers +ro %$ aster data, having all diension propert" have
euivalent attriutes& -n our case )hen )e load eers )ith apping +or Parent
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Puneet Gupta: 5s ParentO$roup created as an attribute or hierarch! in BW s!stem? 5t must be an
attribute in the BW s!stem+ Another point to be noted is that the values in this attribute must be a
valid master data+
Coent Fro Carlton Cheung
-n 10, is there an eas" )a" to displa" %PC coents via %- or %. reports =i*e* )ithout have
to )rite custo e#tractors on coents tale>&
Puneet Gupta: Custom extractor will be needed to read the comments table since the technical
name of the comments table changes for each model+
Coent Fro Saurah Gupta
/o) can )e achieve one9clic5 suission o+ S7M %CS in %PC 10*0&
Sanjeev Mehta:BPC provides the standard functionalit! of Gata 'anager Pac#age" which the
user can execute for their respective submissions+
6he Business Process 1low BP1D is ver! flexible to handle such tas#s and can be easil!
configured as per the needs of different organiations+
Coent Fro Saurah
8o )e have soething li5e one9clic5 suission in CM.' in S7M %CS in %PC& -n other
)ords )hat )e have as alternate o+ CM.' in %PC&
Sanjeev Mehta: BPC has a Consolidation 'onitor+ 6his feature provides an overview of the whole
consolidation process in one single screen+ 6he monitor trac#s the following items
Status of the controls
Wor# Status
Execution status for currenc! conversion
Execution status for consolidation
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6his will be ver! useful for all the users who need to monitor the progress of the consolidation
process at a group or at a local levelD" as the! have all the information the! need on one single
screen+
Coent Fro Saurah
Can we use the current SE' s!stem as bac#end BW s!stem for BPC?
Puneet Gupta: 6he SE' s!stem is different from the BPC platform+ sing SE'" !ou can use the
products li#e BPS" BCS" CP'" etc+ owever" BPC is directl! installed on top of BW" and hence BW
is the bac#end for BPC+ aving said that" if !ou are currentl! using SE'" all the data is alread!
available in !our BW s!stem+ 6his data can be used b! the BPC s!stem for further operations+
Coent Fro Saurah
Currentl" )e have an S7M %CS s"ste +or consolidations )here )e use one9clic5
suission +ro CM.'* 8o )e have the sae t"pe o+ +eature in %PC&
Sanjeev Mehta:6he features are
/+ Business Process 1low - which is flexible enough to be configured for the diverse data
submission needs of an organiation+
7+Consolidation 'onitor - this feature provides an overview of the whole consolidation process in
one single screen+ 6he monitor trac#s the following items
Status of the controls
Wor# Status
Execution status for currenc! conversion
Execution status for consolidation
6his feature will be ver! useful for all the users that need to monitor the progress of the
consolidation process at a group or at a local levelD" as the! have all the information the! need on
a single screen+
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Coent Fro Saurah
-n continuation o+ " previous uestion, )e can use data +ro S7M ut can )e connect
current S7M %$ s"ste )ith %PC such that )hatever )e create in +ront end in %PC )ill
appear in S7M&
Puneet Gupta: es" technicall!" it4s possible+ owever" please note that SE' and BPC will use two
separate cubes+ So" there needs to be transfer mechanism between these two cubes+ Also" proper
mapping needs to be available during this transfer since the structure of the data in SE' and BPC
will be different+
#mplementation ' Migration
Coent Fro Mohaed -l"as Ansari
$hat are the iportant +actors to consider )hile igrating +ro B* to 10&
Sanjeev Mehta:'igration from 'S version to BPC /0 >W is primaril! done manuall! as there is
no direct integration path+ But ta#e note that as BPC >W can use BAG5 and other >etWeaver
functionalities" few of the re(uirements can be addressed much better in >W+
So" !ou first need to identif! which functionalities !ou are going to redefine * which ones !ou are
planning to perform technical migration+
We have recentl! done few pro&ects for similar re(uirement and will be able to provide more
specific details" if we can understand !our existing environment+
Coent Fro asi
$hat are prereuisites to igrate %PC B* MS to %PC 10*1 '$ )ith or )ithout /A'A&
Sanjeev Mehta:Assuming BPC /0+/ >W is a new implementation" there are no prere(uisites+++
But if !ou are loo#ing at implementing BPC /0+/ >W on existing BW s!stem" then BW should be
upgraded to at least version H+8 SP@+
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Coent Fro Mohaed -l"as Ansari
$hat is the prereuisite in the %- s"ste +or %PC 10*1 uni+ied& 8oes the %- s"ste needs to
e in B*4 version and is /A'A andator"&
Sanjeev Mehta: 1or nified version" !es" SAP A>A is mandator! and !our BW should be at
least version H+8 SP@+
Coent Fro Archana
.n )hat asis should )e igrate to %PC 10*0 to %PC 10*1 9 classic odel or uni+ied odel&
Puneet Gupta: 5f !ou are alread! on BPC /0+0" then migrating to BPC /0+/ classic model will be
more sensible" since both of them use the same architecture+ 2n the other hand" the unified model
has a different architecture" with the support of multiple #e! figures+
Coent Fro 6avier
So )hen +acing a ne) ipleentation +ro scratch, one has to decide )hether to use the
Classic odel .@ the ni+ied odel&
Puneet Gupta: 5f !ou alread! using the older version of BPC" then migrating to the BPC /0+/
Classic model would ma#e more sense" since the! use the same underl!ing architecture Account-
based modelD+
2n the other hand" if !ou are implementing a new BPC /0+/ s!stem" !ou can opt for the nified
model" which is more integrated to the BW s!stem+ owever" we need to remember that the
nified model doesn.t support consolidation !et+ aving said that" the classic and unified models
can co-exist in a single platform+
Coent Fro Mohaed -l"as Ansari
For %PC B* to 10 igration, ho) uch is the e++ort split et)een %asis D %PC consultants&
Also does the igration tool ta5e care o+ securit" con+iguration3setup&
Sanjeev Mehta:
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/+ Basis portion of migration is significantl! less+ We have done pro&ects where Basis migration
ta#es around /0 da!s per environment" including preparation+ ou additionall! need to account for
the time it ta#es to migrate data" if the BW version is migrated as well+
7+ 2n the other hand" BPC effort is high if !ou are loo#ing at redesigning all the templates based on
EP' /0+0+
Q+ As there is a difference in securit! configuration" we still need to perform manual steps to define
authoriation BPC H+@ uses table-based authoriation controlled in the +>E6 la!er" while /0+0 uses
>W la!erD+
Coent Fro ive5
-n "our vie), )hat )ill e the recoended approach to igrate %PC B* '$ to %PC 10*1
Classic 9 '$ on /A'A&
Puneet Gupta: BPC /0+/ has two modeling options the Classic Standard 'odel similar to
traditional BPCD and the nified Embedded 'odel leveraging the powerful features of B5 - 5P" with
stronger integration with BWD+
SAP has a standard mechanism to migrate from BPC H+@ >W to BPC /0+/ Classic or StandardD
'odel+ Although this method ta#es care of most of the ob&ects" there are certain ob&ects that need
to be modified" manuall!+ A t!pical example for this would be BAG5s+ 6he BAG5 implementations
needs to be adapted with new internal AP5s of /0+/+
Coent Fro Carlton Cheung
A+ter igrating +ro %PC B* '$ to 10, do the %PC Cue and Multiprovider technical naes
reain the sae& And does SAP support )riting %7# ueries on the ne) %PC 10
cues3ultiproviders&
Sanjeev Mehta:nder 'aintain models" SAP has provided an option to use BPC cubes as source
for other areas+ 5f this is enabled" then multi provider names will remain same+
But SAP does not support BEx (ueries on BW cubesmultiproviders !et+
Coent Fro Srinivas %
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$hat is the advice "ou give to custoers on S7M9%PS3%CS and %-9-P& $hat should e their
logical ne#t steps&
Puneet Gupta: SE'-BPS and B5-5P were SAP tools" for planning" budgeting and forecasting
re(uirement whereas" BCS is the consolidation tool+
SAP BPC is the single and unified platform for catering to the planning" budgeting" forecasting" and
consolidation re(uirements+ SAP is developing and investing heavil! into BPC+ BPC is
administered b! Business Experts" not b! 56+ 1or an! 56 owned s!stems" a ver! significant pain
point for an end user is having to wait for 56 to ma#e their re(uested changes+ Because BPC can
be maintained b! the business" it puts the power bac# into their hands+
6he ideal wa! forward would be to move to BPC from the existing platform" which can support
simple to complex business re(uirements+
Coent Fro Carl
$e are currentl" on %PC B* '$ and are considering upgrading to %PC 10 or 10*1* $e have
a large nuer =20E> o+ %PC odels, ost o+ )hich have cople# custo logic =using
%A8-3A%AP> and custo %A in the input schedules* /o) uch tie and e++ort should )e
allo) to igrate each odel to the ne) version& And is it ever easier to reipleent and
odel instead o+ using the igration tool&
Sanjeev Mehta:'igration from BPC H+@ to /0+0 or /0+/ can be categoried into Q steps+++
/+ After s!stem upgrade" run the migration tool+ 6his will migrate all the 2b&ects" li#e dimensions"
master data+
7+ 6hen update the BAG5.s with new classes - 6his should be straight forward+
Q+ pdate the templates to EP' Add-5n reporting+
'ain effort in migration is dependent on the reporting effort and the testing time * it reall! not
based on the number of models+
6!picall! for /00 templates with around /0 BAG5s" we ta#e Q to 8 months to complete migration and
testing+
Coent Fro Guest
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$e are using %PC 10 '$ and planning to igrate to %PC 10*1 uni+ied odel* 8o )e need
to reuild the )hole environent again +ro scratch&
Puneet Gupta: 6here is a migration approach from BPC /0+0 to BPC /0+/ classic model+ 2n the
other hand" the unified model is prett! similar to 5P+ 'igration from /0+0 to the unified model is not
feasible+
Coent Fro C! Chiu
/o) can )e ipleent SAP %PC 10*1 in our copan"&
Sanjeev Mehta:6he approach to the implementation of BPC depends on lot of factors+ 1or
example
- Are !ou using an! of the previous versions of BPC and planning to upgrade to BPC /0+/?
- What are !our #e! Business Processes - Planning andor Consolidation?
ou can approach us with more specific re(uirement" so that we can advise !ou on the best
possible approach+
Coent Fro 8aniel 6uvinao
-n ters o+ e++ort, is it recoended to igrate directl" +ro %PC B* to %PC 10*1& And
also, ho) long on average )ould it ta5e +or the igration o+ a classic odel o+ 10
diensions& An" recoendations&
Sanjeev Mehta: BPC /0+/ has two modeling options the Classic Standard 'odel similar to
traditional BPCD and the nified Embedded 'odel leveraging the powerful features of B5 - 5P" with
stronger integration with BWD
SAP has a standard mechanism to migrate from BPC H+@ >W to BPC /0+/ classic or standardD
model+ Although this method ta#es care of most of the ob&ects" there are certain ob&ects that need
to be modified manuall!+ A t!pical example for this would be BAG5s+ 6he BAG5 implementation
needs to be adapted with new internal AP5s of /0+/+
6!picall!" for a pro&ect of medium complexit!" with around /00 templates" technical migration should
ta#e less than Q months+ owever" the actual duration and effort of the migration depends on the
complexit! of the existing solution+
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Coent Fro 8aniel 6uvinao
8oes SAP have a tool 9 or plan to uild a tool 9 to per+or the igration in a ore natural)a" +ro %PC 10 to %PC 10*1&
Sanjeev Mehta:BPC /0+/ has two modeling options the Classic Standard 'odel similar to
traditional BPCD and the nified Embedded 'odel leveraging the powerful features of B5 - 5P" with
stronger integration with BWD+ SAP has an eas! and standard mechanism to migrate from BPC
/0+0 >W to BPC /0+/ Classic or StandardD 'odel+
Coent Fro (arthi
A uestion aout %PC on /A'A and optiiation o+ logic: /o) can it e done to iprove
runtie&
Sanjeev Mehta:6he upgrade from /0+0 to /0+/ is prett! smooth and eas!+ 6he web interface of
BPC /0+/ is much improved with 6';@" with the capabilit! to run on i2S and Android devices+
5t also offers the features of PA%5P in the unified or embeddedD modeling of /0+/+
Coent Fro en5ata Saasani
$e are upgrading %$ %PC 10*0 on 8%2 SP11 to /A'A 8ataase igration onl"* -s the
optiiation needed right a)a" to get +aster per+orance& .r )ill upgrading just to the
/A'A 8ataase alone iprove per+orance out o+ the o# li5e 0&
Sanjeev Mehta:5f the GB7 database is not currentl! with B; acceleration" and if it is migrated to
a A>A appliance" then there will be a slight improvement in performance+
owever" if the A>A BPC component is installed" it will improve the performance significantl! as
claimed b! SAP" which is more than @0R+
B! leveraging native A>A features for calculations" the approach provides additional performance
benefits over the use of ABAP+
We4ve used A>A as our primar! calculation tool and have implemented different #inds of
calculations+ Some statistics
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/+ ;ite 2ptimiation process went from 8@ minutes in BPC H+@ >W to 7M seconds with BPC on
A>A+
7+ Cop! of /+@ million records from one categor! to another decreased from /7 minutes in BPC /0
to 9 minutes with BPC on A>A+
Q+ @0R or greater increase in bac#end calculation time through fiddler when running reports in BPC
on A>A+
Coent Fro (arthi
$ith %PC on /A'A 9 optiiation o+ logic: /o) it can e done to iprove runtie&
Puneet Gupta:6he good news is that since BPC /0+0 SP// there4s an option to create a native
A>A data model" originall! meant to improve the write-bac# performance and internall! used" for
example" for the allocations+
As a side effect" the native A>A model also provides us with the abilit! to directl! interact with the
BPC data model in the A>A database+ 5t allows us to come up with an approach to implement the
calculations using native A>A S); Script that is triggered through an ABAP BAd5" which in turn is
as usualD triggered via Script ;ogic+
6he ABAP BAd5 is also able to pass the calculation context e+g+ Entit!" Categor!" 6imeD to the
A>A procedure in order to limit the calculation4s data range+
6he A>A procedure (ueries the data through a calculation view that unions data from the BPC
cube4s 2;AP view as well as the delta table" which includes the write-bac# data that hasn4t been
merged bac# into the main table !et+ 6he calculation is then performed using S); Script rel!ing
either directl! on S); statements or the procedural features" such as loops+
At the end" the procedure calculates a delta between the result data and the current cube data and
writes it bac# into the BPC-generated write-bac# table+
Coent Fro C! Chiu
$hat is the ipact o+ ipleenting %PC )ithout /A'A&
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Sanjeev Mehta:1rom a product perspective" BPC A>A and non-A>A are prett! much the
same+ A>A is applicable for larger enterprises that re(uire processing of ver! large volume of
data+
Coent Fro C Moone" 7S%
-n 201H )e success+ull" ipleented SAP %PC 10*0* -t is stale and )or5ing )ell* here is a
polic" in our copan" to appl" upgrades3service pac5s ever" 2 "ears* %ut as the s"ste is
)or5ing )ell, and it onl" recentl" )ent live, there is a reluctance " the usiness to
upgrade* $hat are the advantages o+ oving +ro 10*0 to 10*1&
Puneet Gupta: 6he upgrade from /0+0 to /0+/ is prett! smooth and eas!+ 6he web interface of
BPC /0+/ is much improved with 6';@" with the capabilit! to run on i2S and Android devices+
5t also offers the features of PA%5P in the nified or EmbeddedD modeling of /0+/
Coent Fro Mohaed -l"as Ansari
/o) sealessl" can 6%@ D 6
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SAP has a migration methodolog! from BPC H+@ to BPC /0+/ Classic model+ 6his process migrates
most of the ob&ects+ owever" excel templates and BAG5s need special attention+
Coent Fro Guest
$e have %PC B* MS version, and )e need soe advice on the igration to %PC 10 on '$*
Sanjeev Mehta:'igration from 'S version to BPC /0 >W is primaril! done manuall!" as there is
no direct integration path+ But ta#e note that as BPC >W can use BAG5s and other >etWeaver
functionalities" few of the re(uirements can be addressed much better in >etWeaver+
So" !ou first need to identif! which functionalities !ou are going to redefine and which ones !ou are
planning to perform technical migration+
We have recentl! done a few pro&ects with similar re(uirements and will be able to provide more
specific details" if we can understand !our existing environment+
Coent Fro 'iranjan (aishetti
/o) do )e trans+er the transaction data +ro the ni+ied to the Classic odel& -s there an"
process&
Sanjeev Mehta:6he unified model primaril! uses BW cubes for processing+ So" we can use
standard load to infoprovider to move data from the unified to the classic model+
Coent Fro Guest
8uring igration +ro version B* to 10, )hat are the special steps )e need to ta5e&
(arthi5 A6,CPM Consulting: SAP has a standard mechanism to migrate from BPC H+@ >W to
BPC /0+/ classic or standardD model+ Although this method ta#es care of most of the ob&ects"
there are certain ob&ects that need to be modified" manuall!+
A t!pical example for this would be BAG5s+ 6he BAG5 implementations need to be adapted with new
internal AP5s of /0+/+
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Coent Fro /er" 8ara)an
$e are ipleenting SAP %PC 10*0* $e have had proles )ith the initial %PC9$e ogon
=getting hang or lan5 screen>* $e have raised an .SS Message and are )or5ing )ith SAP
%PC support tea ut still no resolution "et* $e have also +ollo)ed several
recoendations +ro SAP 'otes and Forus* 8o "ou have a siilar e#perience on this&
Puneet Gupta: 5f the version of 5E is //" one of the common reasons we have seen for this #ind of
problem is the compatibilit! setting of 5E+ 6his can be resolved b! enabling compatibilit! view in 5E
// for the BPC W from 'S" there will be a
need to manuall! recreate the ob&ects+ ence" this can be considered as a new implementation+
Coent Fro ive5
-n "our vie), ho) stale is the %PC 10*1 product& $hat are the critical )atchpoints in
ipleentation o+ %PC 10*1&
Sanjeev Mehta: We have started implementing BPC /0+/ classic version for a customer as soon
as $A was announced and so far we did not f ind an! ma&or issues that impact the pro&ect+ So" it
remains as stable as /0+0" with new web 5+
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Coent Fro asi
$e have %$ B*4 SP and going to /A'A soon* /o) uch e++ort is needed to igrate the old
%PC B* MS Application on to %PC 10*1 on '$& Migration or reipleentation 9 )hich is the
est option&
Sanjeev Mehta:6!picall!" we would prefer a reimplementation as it gives better chance to use
A>A * /0+/ capabilities+
1or example We have done a pro&ect where we have combined Q detailed cubes in older version
to / cube in BPC /0+0 on A>A and this helped in seamless data flow * in reporting as well+
We will need more specific details to give !ou better recommendation+
Coent Fro dra5shara
-s SAP coing up )ith con+igurale coponents +or SAP %PC rapid ipleentation +or
each industr", considering that %PC is onl" a technical tool right no), )ith all the usiness
process including +inancial odeling to datasource activation to e done " consultant& -t
ta5es considerale ipleentation hours in its current +or*
Puneet Gupta: SAP has an
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Q+ pdate the templates to EP' Add-5n reporting
'ain effort in migration is dependent on the reporting effort and the testing time" and reall! is not
based on the number of models+
6!picall! for /00 templates with around /0 BAG5s we ta#e Q to 8 months to complete migration and
testing+
Scripting& %$*& and BA+#s
Coent Fro (arthi
A uestion on %PC 10*1 script logic 9 $hat is the copatiilit" )ith old versions&
Puneet Gupta:6he Classic BPC /0+/ model uses the same s!ntax as used in the previous
versions of BPC+
2n the other hand" the nified model of BPC /0+/ provides a powerful 123 1ormula for designing
complex logics" as used in 5P+
Coent Fro @aju
F.; can replace %A8-s&
(arthi5 A6,CPM Consulting: es" 123 scripting can help to handle complex calculations+ 5t can
be used to perform calculations instead of BAG5+
Coent Fro 6ason
$hat is F.; script&
(arthi5 A6: 123 script is the programming language used in BPC /0+/ - Embedded nifiedD
models similar to the B5-5PPA%+ 6his will help to perform complex calculations in BPC+
Coent Fro @aju
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8oes the 10*1 Classic odel support F.;&
Sanjeev Mehta:>o+ 2nl! BPC /0+/ nified or EmbeddedD model supports 123 script+
Coent Fro Guest
-s there the inclusion o+ F.; prograing instead o+ logic scripts in the uni+ied solution&
(arthi5 6a"apal:es" 123 script programming is used in the unifiedembedded solution of BPC
/0+/ instead of logic scripts+ ;ogic scripts are currentl! supported in the classicstandard solution of
BPC /0+/
Coent Fro 6avier
-s there an" support to igrate script logic to F.;9li5e logic&
(arthi5 A6,CPM Consulting: >o" we have to build the 123 logic+ 123 scripts will run on
Embedded nifiedD solutions" which will be based on #e!-figure modelling+ Script logic will run on
standard classicD solutions" based on Account-based modeling+
Looking Ahead
Coent Fro Sne
his is perhaps out o+ the scope o+ toda"?s discussion 9 ut )hat )ould "ou sa" to a
%usiness that currentl" uses %$ B*H -P as the" are planning plat+or 9 should the" and )h"
igrate to %PC&
Sanjeev Mehta:As SAP recommends" go forward product for planning will be BPC and BPC
Embedded or nified version was mainl! designed to address next steps of B5-5P customers+
BPC nified version uses PA% modelling same as B5-5PD" with abilit! to report using EP' Add-5n"
define Business process flows in BPC+
So" !ou ta#e the advantage of strong B5-5P EP' Add-5n
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Coent Fro 6ason
$e?re planning to ipleent SGAAP starter 5it +or %PC consolidation* - thin5 the
autoation level and upgrade version is soe)hat less than -F@S 5it* 8o "ou thin5 SAP )ill
still go )ith a t)o9 trac5 approach )ith sae e++ort&
Sanjeev Mehta: We will need to chec# with SAP on this+ As of now" SAP is focusing more on 51