Morgan Stanley EuropeanFinancialsConferenceEuropean ......March 29, 2012 Insurance operations...

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Morgan Stanley European Financials Conference European Financials Conference 2012 Björn Wahlroos Björn Wahlroos Chairman of the Board

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Morgan Stanley European Financials ConferenceEuropean Financials Conference 2012

BjörnWahlroosBjörn WahlroosChairman of the Board

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Sampo has been a great investmentTotal shareholder return of Sampo share and a benchmark index

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WHY?WHY?

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Because…

• Sampo has very profitable operationsp y p p

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Insurance operations have produced high returns

53.239.8

405060

Return on Equity in P&C insurance%

24.1 22.0 19.2

‐0.812.4

0102030 Average 

24.3%

‐100

2005 2006 2007 2008 2009 2010 2011

100Return on Equity in Life insurance%

39.0 30.09.1

97.636.2

20406080100

Average 18 8%

68 8‐11.7

‐80‐60‐40‐200

2005 2006 2007 2008 2009 2010 201118.8%

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‐68.8‐80

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Because…

• Sampo has very profitable operationsp y p p• Sampo has the ability to execute great deals

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Example: Sampo Bank sale in 2006/2007P/BV   R EP/BV v. RoE

3.5

4.0Danske Bank/Sampo Bank

2.5

3.0

3.5

alue Danske Bank/

Östgota Enskilda BankHandelsbanken/

Midtbank Danske Bank/N h B k d NIB

1 5

2.0

2.5

ce/b

ook

v

Danske Bank/R lD k

Midtbank

Kaupthing/FIH

Danske Bank/Fokus Bank

Nordea/Postgirot

Nordbanken/Merita

Northern Bank and NIB

Santander/Elcon

SEB/Privatbanken

Nykredit/Totalkredit

Sparbanken Sverige/ Föreningsbanken

0 5

1.0

1.5

Pric RealDanmark

Den Norske Bank/Gjensidige NOR Handelsbanken/

StadshypotekNordea/Unidanmark

Nordea/Christiania Bank

g

Kaupthing Bank/Bunadarbanki Islands

Islandsbanki/BNbank

Islandsbanki/Kredittbanken

0.0

0.5

0% 5% 10% 15% 20% 25%

Note: Acquirer/TargetSource: Company data, Factiva Target RoE

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Because…

• Sampo has very profitable operationsp y p p• Sampo has the ability to execute great deals• Sampo puts shareholder value firstSampo puts shareholder value first

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Shareholder value focus manifested                             in the dividend yield

Average          dividend yieldin 2001‐2011 

6 67

in the dividend yieldAnnual dividend yield, calculated using the year‐end share price 

6.75%

%6.6

6.0 6.0 5.76.3

6

7Total shareholderreturn of Sampo A share1 Jan 2007=100

4

5 1 Jan 2007=100

2

3

0

1

02007 2008 2009 2010 2011 9

* Board’s proposal to the AGM held on 12 April 2012: EUR 1.20/share

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Past performance is no guarantee of futureresultsresults..

..but…

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In 2001 we saw our business like this...

Fast MutualF d

Privatebanking

Funds

LifeInsurance

AM

MARKET

Insurance

Investmentbanking

MARKET GROWTH Banking

RetailBankingSME

Non-life InsuranceSMESII

Non-life InsurancePrivate

Largecorporatelending

Non-life InsuranceMajor accounts

11

Slow Small BigMARKET SHARE

lending

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…today we have no dogs left!= If P&C is a cash machine

1,000

 If P&C is a cash machineEURm

800

• Dividends paid to Sampo plc by If P&C EUR 3.4 billion• Book value of If P&C in Group Accounts EUR 1.9 billion

1,031

400

600 Average EUR 488 million/ year

249

519 488 540406200

400 year

249 1810

2005 2006 2007 2008 2009 2010 2011

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…and we think Nordea is seriously undervalued%

12 315.7

18

22.919.7

15.3 15.015

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25 Return on Equity, Nordea%

7.5

12.3 11.3 11.5 10.6

5

10

15

02002 2003 2004 2005 2006 2007 2008 2009 2010 2011 Target

Nordea share price, SEK

13Source: ReutersEcowin

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…while stable P&C insurance operations offer downside protectionoffer downside protection

100.9%

Long term

Combined ratio, If P&C

26.625.6 24.3 24.0 23.7 23.7 24.1 23.7 23.5

92.6 90.5 89.9 90.6 91.8 92.1 92.8 92.0

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100 Long‐term target  < 95%

60The standard deviation for  2005­2011 quarterlycombined ratios:

74.3 67.0 66.2 65.9 66.9 68.1 68.0 69.1 68.4

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40If: 2.5%Tryg: 5.4%Gjensidige: 5.4%

02003 2004 2005 2006 2007 2008 2009 2010 2011

Pohjola: 5.8%Topdanmark: 5.3%

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Risk ratio Cost ratio

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In my viewSampo is a great investmentp g

Total shareholder return of Sampo share and a benchmark index

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Morgan Stanley European Financials ConferenceEuropean Financials Conference 2012

BjörnWahlroosBjörn WahlroosChairman of the Board