MECH DESIGN ISSUES BULK INDENT MEETING on 21.07.2011 at ...
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ME C H DE S IG N IS S UE S
B ULK INDE NT ME E T INGON
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RA IL C OA C H F A C TORY K A P URTHA LA
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P re s e n t a t io n b y : Me c h De s ig n /RC F
Ou t l in e o f t h e P r e s e n t a t io n
Design issues reported by Railways Improvements in Designs Environmental friendly green toilets Development of new Coach
Designs
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Ma in d o o r p iv o t s t u d s a r e g e t t in g lo o s e n f r e q u e n t ly (C R ly )
- Due to inadequate working space two pivot studs adjacent to door pivot pin could not be properly tightened
- Design modified – 29 mm gap increased to 44 mm to provide sufficient working space.
- In case of repeated problem of door loosening – Railways to replace the pivot mounting arrange as per new design
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GAP Increased
Lu g g a g e c o m p a r t m e n t d o o r s (LHB ) a r e n o t g e t t in g lo c k e d a u t o m a t ic a l l y (C R ly )
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• 3-way locking arrangement has been provided
• Locking levers and CAMs are spring loaded
• If automatic locking is not obtained, CAMs, levers and springs are to be inspected and replaced if found defective.
• Now design modified and conventional type loading door being provided
Dif f ic u l t ie s in p ro c u r e m e n t o f d o o r s t o p p e r s t o Drg No LA 5 1 1 2 5 a l t n i l & LA 5 1 1 2 6 a l t n i l (W R ly )
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• Existing Teflon stoppers may be replaced with SS (AISI 304 grade). Dimensions may be referred from drawing no. LA51125 alt-nil and LA51126 alt-nil
• In the current design SS stoppers as per drawing no. LA51125 alt-b have been specified. However, these can not be used in old design
OLD DES IG N (TEF LON)
NEW DES IG N (S S )
S t a n d a rd iz a t io n o f d e s ig n o f C DTS (C .R ly )
PLC Retention tank
design & mounting Lower slide valve Upper flapper valve Flushing valve
(integrated design) Control panels Lavatory pan Euro Bowl
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Solenoid valves & valve block mounting
Pneumatic cylinders and mounting
Sealing rubber Air filter mounting Electrical
connection interfaces
GPS module & mounting
• CDTS parts identified for standardization:
• Drawings for these shall be frozen by Oct’2011
No n P ro v is io n o f NRV in C DT S a ir T a n k p ip e l in e s (C .R ly )
Design of Air Brake circuit is being reviewed.
NRV can be provided Feasibility of connecting
other sub-assemblies such as automatic door without effecting air brake operations being explored
RDSO and OEMs are being consulted
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C u r t a in h o o k s b e in g p ro v id e d o n LHB c o a c h e s a r e t o o w e a k t o h o ld t h e lo a d o f t h e C u r t a in s (C .R ly )
The design of the curtain hooks has been reviewed and found having sufficient strength to support the curtain .
Load per hook is approx. 127 grams, whereas it can take up load upto 1000 grams.
If ordinary MS hook is used in lieu of SS, it may fail. Sturdier design of hook arrangement available off the shelf
being explored.
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Aluminium pin Nylon Roller Stainless Steel hook
LHB Wa t e r T a n k - A ir Ve n t Va lv e g e t t in g d e f e c t iv e
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•Wo rk in g P r in c ip l e :•When the water level
rises the float swims up and thus closes the valve-seat. When air enters into the valve body, water level goes down and valve seat opens to release the air.
LHB Wa t e r T a n k - A ir Ve n t Va lv eMa in t e n a n c e In s t r u c t io n s
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1. Check the hygroscopic discs in the black "safety leak cap“
1. They should be DRY if everything is OK2. If they are WET and/or swollen, it indicates a leakage
and the complete valve should be changed.3. Normally the valves would work indefinitely, if they are
installed correctly4. It is not recommended to dismount the functional
elements as they are likely to be damaged if serviced. 5. It is recommended to change the complete unit.6. Please see "Installation Instructions“. • Installation instructions have been mailed to
Railways.
• Lo n g it u d in a l J e r k s o c c u r d u e t o s la c k
• Slack between coupler heads:• Between E type of loco and H type of
coach• Between H Type Coupler Heads of
adjacent coaches • Slack in the coupler and draft gear
connection • Slack generation due to draft gear
action • High response time of the draft
gear phenomenon
P ro b le m o f J e r k s in c o a c h e s f i t t e d w i t h C B C
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M/s Faiveley / M/s Escort coupler• Single pack draft gear• Connection between Draft gear and coupler head through pin
M/s ASF coupler • Twin pack draft gear• Connection between draft gear and coupler head through pin
E x is t in g C o u p le r s
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E n d e a v o r s m a d e s o f a r
CBC with Soft Side Buffers• Not recommended by RDSO
Reduced Pre-Load CBCs• Preload reduced to 30KN from 77 KN
Noticeable reduction in jerks
M/s Faiveley Double acting draft gear provided on 30 coaches
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E n d e a v o r s m a d e s o f a r
M/s Dellner Couplers (Balanced Draft gear)• 22 Coaches to SCRly08 Coaches to WRLY
•Performance similar to Screw coupling coaches
•Single piece coupler -No connection between draft gear and coupler shank. No transversal and horizontal pivoting movement.•No slack generation due to draft gear action
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E n d e a v o r s m a d e s o f a r
M/s Escort Balanced Draft gear• Expected in future supplies
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B ra k e S y s t e m Is s u e s
At Cut Off angle cock BP/FP worked out / Leaky:
• Brackets being provided for additional security of cut off angle cocks
Damage of Brake indictor due to hitting because of over projection
• Examined found no infringement with MMD
• Possibility of infringement of IRSOD by civil structures
• Railways may check up
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Ho n e y C o m b P a r t i t io n F r a m e s
Back Pieces not found for mounting magazine bags :
• Back pieces provide in the drawings
• Can be located by using a simple magnet
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P ro b le m in a c h ie v in g b o g ie c l e a r a n c e s
P a ir in g o f S p r in g s : Each Flexicoil spring is provided
with following markings: Direction of alignment deviation Value of the alignment deviation Length of the spring under test load Month & Year of manufacture
Standard method of marking springs internationally
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Marking on Springs
• Al. Tape – Indicates positive direction of the alignment deviation
• Copper Band – Gives length of the spring under test load and the value of the alignment deviation
• Stamping on flat portion – Gives month & year of manufacture and running serial number.
Al. Tape
CopperBand
Stamping
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CA BD
A l ig n m e n t De v ia t io n( S p r in g P a ir in g - F IA T S p e c 1 7 .4 7 1 1 0 1 )
The difference between the alignment deviations of the two outer springs not to exceed 4mm and that of the inner springs 8mm.
A - B = 4 mm max, C - D = 8 mm max In addition, the outer and inner springs with the
greater alignment deviations must be situated in the same spring assembly, that is:
If A greater than B, C should be greater than D
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Re -a r r a n g in g m is s in g b a n d s In case, any band is found missing, the spring
number should be advised to the manufacturer The manufacturers will generate a new band
using spring information available with them. This process already being followed by
Western Railway & Eastern Railway. For quicker response, spring nos. & date of
manufacturing should be provided to the vendors along with a copy to RCF.
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Ru b b e r s p r in g t o u c h in g s p r in g c e n t e r in g d is c
The rubber spring in secondary nest works in series with the coil springs
There is a possibility of its coming into contact with spring centering disc in some of the coach variants – depending on the tare weight.
This is not to be considered a failure.
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C o n t ro l A rm C o r ro s io n & We a r :
Service limits set jointly by RCF, CAMTECH & RDSO.
M/s FIAT had recommended to use Swiss made Blasol-135 during fitment to minimize wear and to avoid corrosion. This needs to be ensured by zonal railways also.
Now a spec has been developed by RCF which is broadly based on the OEM product.
If wear observed beyond permissible values during POH, re-machining can be done with cut of 0.3 to 0.5 mm on the bottom face of control arm.
Proper torque to be ensured during tightening of bolts.
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Ma c h in in g & P a ir in g(c la r i f ic a t io n s s o u g h t b y C WM/P L)
Machining of new pieces is done in two halves separately
A circular go-no-go gauge to be utilized in case 3D CMM facility is not available – to be measured separately.
RCF has developed vendors for machining of control arm which may be approached by railways
Approved list for machined control arms is under preparation
Replacement should generally be in sets as it is difficult to mix and match worn out pieces However, re-machining to be done for pairs- which need to be
marked suitably Entire surface to be machined – wearing as well as non-wearing
area
C o r ro s io n in B o g ie F ra m e s
• RCF:– Frames being shot blasted– Sourcing of steel from global sources
initiated as per EN 10025 part 5 -2004 grade S355J2W+N
– Elastified High Build Paint being applied
• Zonal Railways– Proper & regular cleaning to remove dirt, grease
and scales – at least once a week– Use rust converters to IS:13515-92 such as
Rustcon– Paint with Elastified High Build Paint as per
MDTS-94 – after rust removal
P ro p o s e d s y s t e m f o r R e s t o r a t io n o f b o g ie f r a m e Two approaches are possible:
Building up the corroded bottom plate Provision of an additional bottom plate
Before taking up restoration, following to be ensured: Brake beam/seam less tubes are not corroded Welding of plates of bogie frame not affected Areas where machining has been done are not
damaged Plate thickness is worn between 2mm to 4mm
Restoration should be considered at each POH level
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B u ild in g u p t h e c o r ro d e d b o t t o m p la t e As explored by CWM/PL
Cleaning and rust removal Spray of material to build up thickness
M/s L&T have offered hot and cold spray solutions Details being collected by RCF
This system will seal corroded surface and add thickness to the plates to withstand further stone hitting etc.
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P ro v is io n o f a n a d d i t io n a l b o t t o m p la t e
An additonal 3mm plate to be provided Cleaning and rust removal
Shot blasting /rust convertors Provision of an additional bottom plate as under:
This plate shall be of same material. The plate shall be of same contour as the original
bottom plate reaching upto control arm support bracket. The width of the plate shall be kept 20mm less so that
10mm space is available on each side for full welding. Application of primer and high build paint after
cleaning of weld surface.
B ra k e d is c i s s u e s 640 mm x 110 mm; Axle shaft mounted Wear on friction surface -7 mm max. Bolts to be checked for proper tightening
torque at least during IOH/POH Breakage of fins and damage to hub-ring
mounting interface to be examined during pit examination. Rejection to be done as per firm’s maintenance
guidelines Regular vendors at RCF are M/s Knorr
and M/s Faiveley with UIC approved brake pads from Bekorit and Zurid Some Zonal Railways procuring brake discs
and pads with non-standard design and from non-proven sources
New designs and sources to be considered after consultation with RDSO/RCF
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P ROC URE ME NT OF S P A RE S RCF procures from vendors who are tried,
tested & proven sources Zonal Railways have been observed to be
buying from new & untried sources without proper testing
These replacement parts may lead to premature failure & sub-optimal performance.
The list of vendors for critical item has been already circulated & updated list has been circulated again on 18/07/11
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E X TE RIOR P A INT ING RCF is using paint as per RDSO specification for
conventional coaches which is duly tested before use. Still gloss and colour retention is not as per desired level.
The initial gloss values obtained on coaches at RCF is in the range of 75% to 85%. The specification needs to be reviewed and upgraded.
RDSO has been entrusted the responsibility of approval of vendors for paint vide letter no. 91/M(C)/137/23. Pt. II dated 17.12.2008.
MM has emphasised that only reputed paint manufacturers, having experience/expertise in painting requirements of Aviation, Automobile and Marine industry, beside Rail cars, should be included in the list.
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E X TE RIOR P A INT ING
RCF is, exploring various options for improving the quality of exterior paint as under:
Polysiloxane Nano painting was tried out on two Shatabdi rakes in 2009.
PU paint from M/s Weilburger, Germany was tried out on two coaches in 2009.
Isocynate-free Polysiloxine paint from Asian Paints with anti-graffiti properties applied on six coaches in 2011.
RCF has moved a proposal for sourcing quality paint from reputed vendors based on functional requirements instead of RDSO specifications for 60 SS coaches.
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DE S IG N IMP ROVE ME NTS IN LHB C OA C HE S
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Modularisation of toilets3 4
P re a s s e m b le d d ro p d o w n m o d u la r t o i l e t in S S 3 0 4 p a n e l s : p r e f i t t e d w i t h a m e n i t ie s•Anti graffiti clear coating as per RDSO specn PCN127 on interior surface•Scrapper matting on the lav floor•Quality water taps : ( Jacquar, Marc, ESS ESS, AGMECO etc)•Mirror : Glass of Saint Gobain, TATA AIS , Modiguard•SS provides fire barrier in between two adjacent coaches
Au tom atic S lid in g Doo rs
Provided on Double Decker coaches (under mfr)
Opening is actuated through opening handle. Only a slight push of handle is required to initiate auto opening movement of the door.
Door closes automatically after a time delay of 3 to 5 seconds.
Sensors have been provided to detect any obstruction while closing and causing the door to retract to opening position.
In case of failure of pneumatic and electrical power supply, operation switches to auto closing door
On curvatures, door does not open against centrifugal forces.
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P u r i f ie d Dr in k in g Wa t e r S y s t e m
Purified Drinking Water system based on Reverse Osmosis (RO) process being provided on DD coaches 5 Stage purification TDS less than 100 ppm Capacity 25 Liters / Hr Separate tap for RO water
over outside wash basin With AMOC & Spares
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Air Springs In LHB coaches - Generator car - AC- 3T/EOG - Hot Buffet
In t r o d u c t io n o f A ir S p r in g s in LHB c o a c h e s
Fiat Bogie with air suspension
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A ir S p r in g s
Fitted in Hybrid and DD coaches Helps in maintaining level of
coach under non-uniform loading Less failures as compared to
helical springs. Buffer height adjustments easy
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TRA INING F OR A IR S P R ING S Training regarding functioning and maintenance of
air springs imparted by RCF at various coaching depots Amritsar, NDLS, Howrah, Sealdah, Santragachi,
Ernakulum, Chennai, Bangalore, Hyderabad, Bhubaneswar depots covered
Training also imparted in several sessions to Zonal railway staff at RCF
Maintenance guidelines circulated by RCF to Zonal Railways through emails.
Maintenance guidelines also circulated by RDSO
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F IB A S y s t e m
Air spring Failure cum Brake Application device (FIBA) works on principle of pneumatic pressure
In case of heavy leakage, FIBA system will give an audio/video signal along with brake application.
RDSO have approved following vendors for development orders: M/s ,Faiveley Transport ,Hosur M/s, Knorr Bremese Faridabad M/s ,Stone india Ltd. Kolkata
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F IB A FIBAIndicator
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De v e lo p m e n t o f F IB A RDSO had issued approved design of FIBA system in
May 2011. RCF has procured FIBA device for three Duronto rakes
nominated by RDSO, presently running in ECR , NCR and CR.
Prototype fitment trial are under process at RCF. After trial of FIBA, Coach Alternation Instruction (CAI) will
be issued to Zonal Railways. However, FIBA will not be fitted on remaining Hybrid
coaches. For these coaches, RDSO are in the process of developing a new system called ASFI valve. Procurement and fitment of this ASFI valve will be done by
zonal railways after vendors and design are finalized by RDSO.
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Te m p . m o n it o r in g s y s t e m
Temperature monitoring system supplied by M/s Timken has been provided on one coach no.08396/NR and sent for trials in the month of June 2009.
Feed back is awaited from Northern Railway.
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T re a d c l e a n in g De v ic e
As advised by RDSO Tread Cleaning device has been fitted on two coaches as a trial, which may also help in reducing the wheel shelling.
Letter issued to N.R to send performance of TCD.
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E n v iro n m e n t a l F r ie n d ly
G re e n T o i l e t s
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E n d e a v o r s m a d e s o f a r
• Biological Sewage treatment toilet system - Microphor, USA by ICF in 1993
• Macerated & chemically treated toilet system-Rail Tech, Canada by RCF in 1998
• Controlled Discharge Toilet system (partial solution)-LHB and Conventional by RCF/ICF since 2001
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T e c h n o lo g y b e in g p u r s u e d
• Aerobic type biological Toilet –M/s Aikon in Rewa Express
• Anaerobic bio-toilet - MoU with DRDE and IR
• Zero Discharge Toilet System – IIT, Kanpur water recycling project
• Global Tender for Multiple technologies
- Tender opened under finailisation
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S u b s t a n c e s t o b e h a n d le d
• Fecal matter • Fecal matter is almost having 80% of bacteria.• Bacteria present in fecal matter are both
aerobic & anaerobic • Fecal matter is reducing in nature
• Water
• Non-degradable waste• Plastic bottles,pouches, napkins,
diapres, purses, clothings etc.
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Wo rk in g o f A n a e ro b ic S y s t e m
Waste
Anaerobic Bacteria
(Liquid bacteria)
Liquid waste
CO2 + Methane gases released to atmosphere
Chlorination
Disinfected Liquid discharged to Land
System does not require Oxygen and also does not require regular cleaning
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B r ie f a b o u t b a c t e r ia –a e ro b ic /a n a e ro b ic
• Aerobic Bacteria
• Growth rate of aerobic bacteria is higher • Requires forced aeration and large surface area• Large amount of bio-mass is generated • Disposal of bio-mass is again an environmental
problem
• Anaerobic bacteria
• Developed by DRDE • Double its population within 6 to 8 hrs• Dominates and de-compose matter into liquid and
gases.
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B r ie f a b o u t b a c t e r ia –a e ro b ic /a n a e ro b ic
• Anaerobic bacteria • Can be kept for two weeks at ambient
temperature
• Can withstand sub zero temperature as well as upto 70 degree centigrade
• Cold temperature would not affect the inside processing because:
• Anaerobic process is exothermic in nature thus in cold regions heat will be available inside the chamber because of chemical process.
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S t a t u s o f DRDE B io -Dig e s t e r
• 23 Coaches fitted with 43 DRDE Bio technology toilets, turned out by RCF, are in service since19th Jan'11 in Bundelkhand Express (11107/11108), between Gwalior and Varansi. • Performance is generally as per defined levels.• 14 DRDE tanks 4th variant, with liquid-solid separator, on eight coaches (2-SCN, 4-GS and 2 DSLR) are under fitment at RCF. Coaches will be dispatched to NCR.• 300 toilets of this technology are planned for fitment in future
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S t a t u s o f DRDE B io -Dig e s t e r
• Tender opened on 15th July-2011 (Tender no: 3112110150).
Allotment of Trains:
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R ly B a s e De p o t
T ra in
NCR GWL GWL-INDB Express (11125/26)
NR NZM NZM-INDB Intercity Express (12415/16)CR CSTM CSTM-BSB Mahanagari Express (11093/94)WR INDB INDB-JAT Malwa Express (12919/20)NER LJN LJN-CSTM Pushpak Express (12533/34)
Dif f e r e n t v a r ia n t s t r ie d o u t
Variant –1• PLC, flapper valve with pneumatics and electrics
Variant –2• Manual Slider no pneumatics and electrics
Variant –3• Smaller dia- no valave no pneumatics and electrics
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Dif f e r e n t v a r ia n t s t r ie d o u t
Variant –4• Flapper valve with Liquid –Solid separator; • No pneumatics and electrics• Can be operated manually from inside the lavatory
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ZDT S -IIT K a n p u r
S o l id s e p a r a t o rE f f ic ie n c y : u p t o 9 8 %
S o l id m a t e r ia l e v a c u a t io n p o r t
S o l id S t o r a g e T a n kC a p a c i t y : 1 1 0 L
P -T r a p w i t h f l a p p e r v a lv e
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DEVELOPMENT OF NEW COACH DESIGN
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LHB A C Do u b le De c k e r C o a c h (3 0 5 0 m m w id t h )
RCF manufactured LHB AC Double Decker coach with body width 3135 mm – 14 nos.
Due to platforms infringing MMD grazing with sidewall reported
Coach re-designed with reduced width of 3050mm – No need to modify platform
Layout also modified Reclining seats with snack table and bottle holder provided –
Earlier back-to-back fixed seats Seating Capacity 120 passengers – Earlier 128 passengers Stair case area modified Automatic end wall doors and Automatic sliding doors for entrance to AC
area have been provided. Provision has been kept for fitment of smoke detection system & fire alarm
system
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LHB A C Do u b le De c k e r C o a c h (3 0 5 0 m m w id t h )
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LHB No n -A C C h a ir C A R (LWS C Z)6 0
Seating capacity -106 Reclining seats with arm rests, snack table,
bottle holder LHB type luggage rack No. of Toilets - 2 Provision of mini-pantry
LHB EOG No n -A C 3 T ie r S le e p e r a n d G e n e ra l c o a c h e s
SCN Seating/sleeping Capacity – 78
General coach seating capacity 99
Conventional coach furnishing
Provision of under slung water tanks to increase water carrying capacity.
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LHB DS LR Wit h Un d e r S lu n g P o w e r P a c k
• Need for U/slung DSLR: •Constraint of SG Equipment on Fiat bogies for AC coaches• Underslung DA set releases on board space for revenue.•14 ton luggage capacity•Guard and crew compartment.•Tender for DA set is under finalisation
Roof Mounted Radiator
U/slung Engine & alternatorFresh air intake
Exhaust
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Ot h e r p ro je c t s o n h a n d
LHB Super AC Coach Seating cap: 44 Shells : by RCF Furnishing by Professional agencies at RCF/RBL
SS VPH 30 ton Design finalised
LHB Non AC Pantry Similar to LHB Hot buffet
LHB Power car with 775 KVA DA set
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Maintenance related issues – ICF Bogie
Brake Gear Bushes Side Bearer Wearing Piece Hytrel Washer Anchor Link
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Maintenance related issues – ICF Maintenance related issues – ICF BogieBogie
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B ra k e G e a r B u s h e s
RCF has been using Phenolic bushes in non-critical locations and Composite bushes in critical locations
As per latest directives from Railway Board/ RDSO, new procurement shall be as under: 50% Composite Bushes and 50% HPPA bushes
in critical locations 100% HPPA bushes in other locations
It is understood some railways are already fitting HPPA bushes. Performance feedback is requested.
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S e l f Lu b r ic a t in g We a r in g P ie c e RCF had fitted Self Lubricating Wearing Piece
in side bearers on around 200 coaches. No oil is required to be filled in side bearer
housing However, if oil is filled, it does not harm the
wearing piece In case of failure, the synthetic wearing piece can
be replaced with bronze piece after filling oil in the housing
Performance feed back is requested from railways
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Hy t r e l Wa s h e r s
Hytrel washers were biting into axle box housing
The design has now been modified so that the outer surfaces are now plain
Railway may keep a watch whether the hytrel washers are still damaging the axle box housing
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A n c h o r Lin k
As instructed by RDSO, RCF is shifting to non-injection moulded silent bloc type anchor link with slotted type fixing arrangement
RCF view is that we may go for non-injection type silent bloc but the fixing arrangement should be bolted type
Zonal railways requested to give their opinion to RDSO/PUs
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CTRB type Bearings
Cartridge taper Roller bearings have a service life of 3 million km.
Railway have reported a total of 07 failures in three years (2 in 08-09,1 in 09-10 & 04 in 10-11).
Temperature monitoring system has been provided on one coach for trials Details are in subsequent slide.
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Failure of Dampers
Proper fitment of end fittings with proper torque to be ensured.
Use proper corrosion resistant chemicals on threads left open after assembly
Plastic cap provided on primary dampers are found missing during inspection. An additional nut can be provided to cover the bare threaded portion.
Cleaning/washing of bogie at regular intervals Details of Dampers should be recorded by
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Failure of Dampers
In the workshops, testing of dampers should be carried out during IOH/POH of the coaches.
Dampers should not be declared as failed without testing.
Arrangement should be made to stock spare rubber end fitting of dampers.
Zonal Railways to give feedback regarding installation of damper testing machine.
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Wheel Shelling
This problem is currently under study with RDSO.
Following action has been taken: Brake cylinder pressure reduced to 3
bar from 3.8 bar Material of wheel upgraded to RDSO
spec R-19 rev 3. Fitment started with new specification since April 08
Tread Cleaning device has been fitted on two coaches
RCF has proposed to Rly. Board for procurement of 40 wheel discs from M/s Luchini, OEM with improved metallurgy.
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FIAT BOGIE7 4
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