Krishnamurti - On Study Centres

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J. KRISHNAMURTI

ON STUDY CENTRES

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J. Krishnamurti

ON STUDY CENTRES

(Selections from the Talks & Dialogues of J. Krishnamurti)

Edited by Krishna Nath

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"#r * teri l %r#* ,- / #n< rds0 C#+yri1ht by Krishn *$rti "#$nd ti#n Tr$st )td.2 'r#c=


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Contents

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Preface

This selecti#n %r#* J. Krishn *$rtiBs di l#1$es #n St$dy Centres is *#stly * de %r#* ?erb ti*re+#rts nd +resented


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intent #% the %#$nder #% the e4istin1 nd %$t$re centres is =e+t in *ind2 it * y d# s#*e 1##d. Allthis nd *#re * y n#t le d t# enli1hten*ent. '$t i% it hel+s little2 itBs lri1ht i% it d#es n#t2 e?enthen it is lri1ht.

@ith these


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Acknowledgements

I 1r te%$lly c=n#


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Abbreviations

3 rtici+ nts in the disc$ssi#ns h ?e been identi%ied by their initi ls 0

K J. Krishn *$rtiAC Ah ly Ch riAK Al n Kisb $C@ Cynthi @##dD' D ?id '#h*DS D#r#thy Si**#nsE' E?elyne 'l $E) Ern )illi%elt"@ "ritG @ilhel*JS J 1dish Sidd##MC M ry C d#1 n

M) M r= )eeM M ry i*b listR' R dh '$rnierRT R$th Tette*erSS S r7it Sidd##T) The# )illi%elt

Any *ist =e in identi%ic ti#n in the tr nscri+t is re1retted. The te4t is %r#* ?erb ti* tr nscri+ts #%the Re+#rt #% the Intern ti#n l Tr$steesB Meetin1s in O7 i2 ,-

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What is going to happen when K dies?

J.Krishn *$rti0 I th#$1ht


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1r#$+2 #ne b#dy2 n#t in< rdly se+ r te b$t #ne c#ntin$#$s thin1 th t


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c#*e2 b$t she c#$ldnBt2 s# sheBs s=ed these t


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DS0 @ell2 I thin= y#$ < nt s#*e


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#% th t seri#$sness2 thin1s


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M 0 '$t thereBs ?ery s$btle +#int2 Krishn 7i. Is it th t #ne < rns the +ers#n ..

K0 O% c#$rse.

M 0 ... BY#$Bre 1ettin1 *y $nderst ndin1 nd d#nBt st#+ thereB.

K0 Y#$ see2 re


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DS0 @h t is the +#int #% it

K0 In Indi they #b7ected t# it ?ery str#n1ly bec $se they s y2 BY#$r n *e is s credB2 etc.2 etc.2 etc.

M 0 '$t they c ll it The Krishn *$rti "#$nd ti#n #% Indi .

K0 They =ee+ the n *e2 b$t they h ?e n# ch ir* n s K.

E)0 S#


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K0 Yes2 th tBs ri1ht.

D'0 Y#$ < nt t# disc#nnect th t ItBs n#t $ite cle r yet.

K0 I c#*e %r#* Se ttle. I he r there is +l ce t O7 i


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SS0 And


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K0 They < nt y#$ t# 1#2 nd they s id y#$Bll be their 1$ests. TheyBll +$t y#$ $+ +r#+erly theyBlll##= %ter y#$2 d# y#$r l $ndry nd ll the rest #% it. The


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#r +erh +s Dr '#h*. I c#*e t# "ritG nd I s y2 B)##=2 y#$B?e =n#


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T)0 ThereBs ls# rel$ct nce2 I %eel t le st2 t# ...

K0 N#. Y#$B?e n# ri1ht t# %eel rel$ct nt. IB* s=in1 y#$2 nd y#$ s y2 BIB* s#rry IB* rel$ct ntB.

T)0 N#2 b$t I *e n s#*eti*es I d#nBt < nt t# d# +r#+ 1 nd .

K0 ItBs n#t +r#+ 1 nd . IB?e c#*e t# y#$.

D'0 Krishn 7i2 the di%%ic$lty2 1 in2 is th t


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K0 Yes.

M 0 Th tBs di%%erent. Th tBs n#t s yin12 B@h t h s it d#ne t# y#$ B

K0 BTell *e s#*ethin1 b#$t hi*. Tell *e


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DS0 H#< d# y#$ e4ist


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SS0 There is l#?ely st#ry b#$t little child


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n ! shrama"?

K0 Yes2 b$t


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K0 IB* 7$st tellin1 y#$ I * 1#ne n#


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D'0 They * y n#t 1# s# % r s t# i% thereBs tr#$ble in #ne #% these +l ces t# * =e ?ery seri#$scriticis* #% the =ind y#$ * de in Indi .

MC0 C#$ld this be s#*ethin1


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here.

M 0 @#$ld this 1r#$+ c#*e int# bein1 n#$esti#ner0 I %eel there is cert in e4+ect ti#n th t * ybe


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>0 His +r#7ecti#ns then

K0 Yes. Then y#$ e?#l?e2 1r#0 S# this l#n1 di1esti#n is +r#cess #% bec#*in1

K0 O% c#$rse.

>0 It * y n#t be.

K0 J$st l##= t it2 sir0 the sl#< +r#cess #% bec#*in1 +r#cess #% di1esti#n #% the te chin1s


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K0 Sir2 +r#cess h s been * nBs c#nditi#nin1.

>0 Yes.

K0 "#r *ysel%2 I


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S# I s y0 BI h ?e n# ti*e %#r this I h ?e 1#t res+#nsibilitiesB . '$t this is #+er tin12 t##2 ll the ti*e.This is 0 I see %#r *ysel% th t the centr l di%%ic$lty is the %#rce #% the + st. I% I h ?e +r#ble*2 %#re4 *+le2 the + st c#*es in. As l#n1 s I %#c$s #n it2 * < re #% it2 there is cert in rele se2 there

is s+ ce in *ysel%. '$t s s##n s I 1et b$sy 0 I * ls# 1#in1 0 And there is n#thin1 else th t st ys l< ys in *eK0 @hen y#$ 1# bey#nd ll this2 there is s#*ethin1 th t is n#t *#? ble. Th t is2 it d#esnBt c#*e

bec $se y#$ re in %l$4. I d#nBt =n#< i% y#$ $nderst nd 0 Sir2 I still d#nBt $nderst nd the di%%erence bet


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listenin1 ?ery c re%$lly2 nd s# #n. Th t t =es ti*e. Th t is +r#cess #% sl#< 1 therin12 #% ? ri#$s?erbs2 nd ll the rest #% it t the end #% it2 I h ?e cc$*$l ted l#t #% It li n


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i**edi tely2 i% I c n %eel th t e?erythin1 is si*$lt ne#$s ...

K0 N#2 sir. This is r ther c#*+lic ted s$b7ect. Is the br in di%%erent %r#* the *ind N#2 n#2 d#nBts y. I * s=in1 y#$ $esti#n0 Is the br in di%%erent %r#* the *ind Or re they b#th t#1ether Isth t s# Or letBs le ?e the *ind %#r the *#*ent 0 T# see #ne thin1 %ter n#ther.

K0 N#2 n#. )##= t the br in2 sir. I * n#t br in s+eci list2 b$t l##= t it. The br in is the centre #%ll #$r ner?#$s re cti#ns2 $t#* tic2 *ech nic l2 the b#dily res+#nses2 the 1l nd$l r res+#nses. It is

the centre #% ll e*#ti#ns. It is the centre #% ll #$r res+#nses nd re cti#ns. It is the centre #% llth#$1ht. It is the centre #% ll #$r cti?ity b$siness2 tr nsl tin12 t l=in12 1#ssi+in12 se4. It is thecentre #% ll #$r e4istence2 +hysic l e4istence. Ri1ht D# y#$ cce+t th t the br in is the centre #%

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The Krishnamurti Centre

A small grou% dis&ussed the Study with ' Krishnamurti!he following is an e tra&t from that dis&ussion*

>$esti#ner0 Sir2 I < nted t# s= y#$ b#$t the +r#+#sed St$dy nd


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K0 Th t is $nderst##d.

>0 It is this $esti#n #% the te chin1s s#*eh#< 1#in1 int# the bl##d.

K0 @e 0 E4 ctly. S#2 in this Centre s#*eh#< I %eel


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>0 N# #$tside hel+. S# +erh +s 0 'ec $se here2 Krishn 7i2


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The 0dea o& the Stud( Centre

K 0 Y#$ st rt it Sir. @h t y#$ re 1#in1 t# d#2 Sc#tt2 th t is2 t 'r#c=


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K0 @h t 0 I < s thin=in1 in ter*s #% this +l ce bein1 +ri* rily %#r the st$dy #% KBs te chin1s. 3ri* rily %#rindi?id$ l


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S"0 I d#nBt thin= s# Sir2 I *e n in the b sis #% it I thin=


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S"0 Yes Sir.

K0 The +e#+le th t c#*e there2 the $ lity #% the +l ce2


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#r ls# s#*ethin1 else is s cred2 #r the Ancient ;ed s2 #r the Old Test *ent2 #r this #r th t. Thereis #ne thin1 0 N#2 n#.

S"0 Th tBs %ine.

K0 Are y#$ s yin12 i% I * y +$t it *#re c#ncretely2 th t b$ildin12


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t#< rds entr#+y nd thin1s slidin1 int# the l#


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S"0 Abs#l$tely Sir. I


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h ?e the cl#isters b$ildin1s2 there re #ther +l ces. I% I c n 7$st 1# #n. "#r inst nce2 t# 1i?e y#$ ne4 11er ted c se0 *y + rents2 ri1ht2 c#*e nd i% they c#*e nd st y t 'r#c=


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th t is the +#int


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They re t# h ?e t l=s #n the te chin1s. N#< i% s#*e#ne is n#t interested ...

RH0 O% c#$rse2 #% c#$rse.

S"0 I% s#*e#ne is n#t interested in the te chin1s they


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'$ddh nd Jes$s nd M#h **ed2 they


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RH0 Yes2 #% c#$rse.

K0 T# 0 3e#+le re c s$ l2 nd s#*eti*es 0 I% they re n#t the ri1ht +e#+le y#$ send the* < y.

K0 Yes2 yes. Y#$ h ?e t# h ?e c#**ittee nd ll th t.

Dr30 I


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S"0 Sir2 I


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What *ind o& Centre?

K0 N#< the ne4t $esti#n is0 @h t =ind #% Centre is it 1#in1 t# be D# y#$ e4+ect +e#+le t# c#*end st y there + rt %r#* the sch##ls.

RH0 @e h#+e s# Sir. @e re n#t s$re b$t


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>0 @e s y y#$ c n st y here %#r


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RH0 De+endin1 #n h#< the *#ney r$ns2 bec $se these re se+ r te.

S"0 All ri1ht2 letBs s y ten2 ri1ht

RH0 Yes.

S"0 Ten.

RH0 Ten2 #r * ybe t0 S#*e +e#+le did t$rn $+ there.

Dr30 They t$rned $+ b$t n#t %#r st yin1.

>0 They


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l#t #% +e#+le


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K0 N#t s# *$ch then he


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>0 N#2 n#. There is en#$1h cc#**#d ti#n in the 1$est h#$se.

RH0 Is th t the $esti#n

>0 Then it bec#*es 1$est h#$se.

RH0 Yes.

K0 Th t is


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RH0 And silent c#$rty rd r#$nd 0 @e need ?ide# t +es.

RH0 '$t th t


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RH0 Als# t the ir+#rt.

S"0 I s < the* d?ertised In ' n1 l#re2 M 4


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