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Proverbs 22:6 1 Samuel 2:12-

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Proverbs 22 (NIV)Proverbs 22 (NIV)

[6]Start children off on the [6]Start children off on the way they should go,way they should go,and even when they are and even when they are old they will not turn from old they will not turn from it.it.

A Hope Filled ObservationA Hope Filled Observation An alternate translation: “Train An alternate translation: “Train

children according to their own children according to their own way, and even when they are old, way, and even when they are old, they will not turn from it.”*they will not turn from it.”*

Which translation do you prefer?Which translation do you prefer? How does the verse affect the How does the verse affect the

way you think about training way you think about training children?children?

Who is ultimately responsible for Who is ultimately responsible for a person’s salvation?a person’s salvation?

*Sarah Derck, “Commentary Proverbs 22:6, Illustrated Bible Life, Sep 2014, pp 5-7.

1 Samuel 2 (NIV)1 Samuel 2 (NIV) 12 12 Eli’s sons were scoundrels; they had no Eli’s sons were scoundrels; they had no

regard for the LORD. regard for the LORD. 13 13 Now it was the practice of Now it was the practice of the priests that, whenever any of the people the priests that, whenever any of the people offered a sacrifice, the priest’s servant would offered a sacrifice, the priest’s servant would come with a three-pronged fork in his hand while come with a three-pronged fork in his hand while the meat was being boiled the meat was being boiled 14 14 and would plunge and would plunge the fork into the pan or kettle or caldron or pot. the fork into the pan or kettle or caldron or pot. Whatever the fork brought up the priest would Whatever the fork brought up the priest would take for himself. This is how they treated all the take for himself. This is how they treated all the Israelites who came to Shiloh. Israelites who came to Shiloh. 15 15 But even before But even before the fat was burned, the priest’s servant would the fat was burned, the priest’s servant would come and say to the person who was sacrificing, come and say to the person who was sacrificing, “Give the priest some meat to roast; he won’t “Give the priest some meat to roast; he won’t accept boiled meat from you, but only raw.”accept boiled meat from you, but only raw.”

1 Samuel 2 (NIV)1 Samuel 2 (NIV) 16 16 If the person said to him, “Let the fat be If the person said to him, “Let the fat be

burned first, and then take whatever you want,” burned first, and then take whatever you want,” the servant would answer, “No, hand it over now; the servant would answer, “No, hand it over now; if you don’t, I’ll take it by force.”if you don’t, I’ll take it by force.”

17 17 This sin of the young men was very great in This sin of the young men was very great in the LORD’s sight, for theythe LORD’s sight, for they[b][b] were treating  were treating the LORD’s offering with contempt.the LORD’s offering with contempt.

22 22 Now Eli, who was very old, heard about Now Eli, who was very old, heard about everything his sons were doing to all Israel and everything his sons were doing to all Israel and how they slept with the women who served at how they slept with the women who served at the entrance to the tent of meeting.  the entrance to the tent of meeting.  23 23 So he said So he said to them, “Why do you do such things? I hear from to them, “Why do you do such things? I hear from all the people about these wicked deeds of all the people about these wicked deeds of yours. yours. 24 24 No, my sons; the report I hear spreading No, my sons; the report I hear spreading among the LORD’s people is not good. among the LORD’s people is not good. 

1 Samuel 2 (NIV)1 Samuel 2 (NIV)   23 23 So he said to them, “Why do you do such So he said to them, “Why do you do such

things? I hear from all the people about these things? I hear from all the people about these wicked deeds of yours. wicked deeds of yours. 24 24 No, my sons; the report No, my sons; the report I hear spreading among the LORD’s people is not I hear spreading among the LORD’s people is not good. good. 25 25 If one person sins against another, If one person sins against another, GodGod[d][d] may mediate for the offender; but if  may mediate for the offender; but if anyone sins against the LORD, who anyone sins against the LORD, who will intercede for them?” His sons, however, did will intercede for them?” His sons, however, did not listen to their father’s rebuke, for it was not listen to their father’s rebuke, for it was the LORD’s will to put them to death.the LORD’s will to put them to death.

26 26 And the boy Samuel continued to grow in And the boy Samuel continued to grow in stature and in favor with the LORD and with stature and in favor with the LORD and with people.people.

1 Samuel 2 (NIV)1 Samuel 2 (NIV)27 27 Now a man of God came to Eli and said to him, Now a man of God came to Eli and said to him,

“This is what the LORD says: ‘Did I not clearly “This is what the LORD says: ‘Did I not clearly reveal myself to your ancestor’s family when reveal myself to your ancestor’s family when they were in Egypt under Pharaoh?they were in Egypt under Pharaoh?28 28 I chose your I chose your ancestor out of all the tribes of Israel to be my ancestor out of all the tribes of Israel to be my priest, to go up to my altar, to burn incense, and priest, to go up to my altar, to burn incense, and to wear an ephod in my presence. I also gave to wear an ephod in my presence. I also gave your ancestor’s family all the food your ancestor’s family all the food offerings presented by the Israelites. offerings presented by the Israelites. 29 29 Why do Why do youyou[e][e] scorn my sacrifice and offering that I  scorn my sacrifice and offering that I prescribed for my dwelling? Why do you honor prescribed for my dwelling? Why do you honor your sons more than me by fattening yourselves your sons more than me by fattening yourselves on the choice parts of every offering made by my on the choice parts of every offering made by my people Israel?’ people Israel?’ 30 30 “Therefore the LORD, the God of “Therefore the LORD, the God of Israel, declares: ‘I promised that members of Israel, declares: ‘I promised that members of your family would minister before me forever.’ your family would minister before me forever.’

1 Samuel 2 (NIV)1 Samuel 2 (NIV) But now the LORD declares: ‘Far be it from me! But now the LORD declares: ‘Far be it from me!

Those who honor me I will honor, but those who Those who honor me I will honor, but those who despise me will be disdained. despise me will be disdained. 31 31 The time is The time is coming when I will cut short your strength and coming when I will cut short your strength and the strength of your priestly house, so that no the strength of your priestly house, so that no one in it will reach old age, one in it will reach old age, 32 32 and you will see and you will see distress in my dwelling. Although good will be distress in my dwelling. Although good will be done to Israel, no one in your family line will ever done to Israel, no one in your family line will ever reach old age. reach old age. 33 33 Every one of you that I do not Every one of you that I do not cut off from serving at my altar I will spare only cut off from serving at my altar I will spare only to destroy your sight and sap your strength, and to destroy your sight and sap your strength, and all your descendants will die in the prime of life.all your descendants will die in the prime of life.

34 34 “‘And what happens to your two sons, Hophni “‘And what happens to your two sons, Hophni and Phinehas, will be a sign to you—they will and Phinehas, will be a sign to you—they will both die on the same day.both die on the same day.

Eli & His SonsEli & His Sons How did Hophni and Phinehas dishonor How did Hophni and Phinehas dishonor

God?God? What do you think brought them to such a What do you think brought them to such a

disregard for God and their disregard for God and their responsibilities?responsibilities?

How do the lives of Hophni and Phinehas How do the lives of Hophni and Phinehas relate to Proverbs 22:6relate to Proverbs 22:6

What was wrong with Eli’s rebuke of his What was wrong with Eli’s rebuke of his sons? What would you have done sons? What would you have done differently? differently?

Leading by ExampleLeading by Example Why did the “man of God” accuse Eli Why did the “man of God” accuse Eli

of scorning the sacrifice offered to of scorning the sacrifice offered to God?God?

What impact do you think this What impact do you think this situation made on the Israelite situation made on the Israelite worshippers?worshippers?

Was God’s punishment fair?Was God’s punishment fair? What does it mean to honor God?What does it mean to honor God? How does honoring God affect the How does honoring God affect the

children we care for?children we care for?

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Unit 1: Hard Sayings of Unit 1: Hard Sayings of the Old Testamentthe Old Testament

Does God Change His Does God Change His Mind?Mind?

1 Sam 15:29; Gen 18:16-331 Sam 15:29; Gen 18:16-33