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page 1ReadWriteWeb Premium Report 2009
ReadWriteWebGuide to Online Community
Management
May 2009Edited By Marshall Kirkpatrick
The
page 2ReadWriteWeb Premium Report 2009
IntroductIonFraming the issues and describing the parts of the report
the BasIcs Our answers to the first questions companies ask about online community
ldquodo startups need communIty managersrdquoA long blog post that kick started our interest in the topic based on interviews and feedback from more than 50 people in the field
roIA discussion of the different ways to look at the Return on Investment from community management understand the nature of the job by knowing what your company will get out of it
JoB descrIptIonAn exploration of different ways that people describe the work
the marketIngengagement BalanceIs community management marketing customer service or something else Yes
dealIng WIth challengIng communIty memBersItrsquos a part of every community managerrsquos job
Table of Contents
4
7
12
25
34
48
58
page 3ReadWriteWeb Premium Report 2009
IntervIeWsMathew Ingram on the Toronto Globe and Mailrsquos Big Media Community
Lucia Willow on Managing Community at Pandora
Dawn Foster on Managing Developer Communities
Connie Bensen on B2B Community Management
addItIonal resourcesThe Best Podcasts Online Groups and Public Events for Community Managers
64
74
Big thanks to the research team that helped with this report Nisha Chittal Doug Coleman Tim Hattenberger Rennie Wiswall and Nate DiNiro
page 25ReadWriteWeb Premium Report 2009
ROI
Whatrsquos the return on investment (ROI) for online community management Thatrsquos a very important question for a number of reasons First itrsquos a question that advocates for community management are almost always asked by those holding the purse strings at their workplace Secondly engaging with the question helps illuminate the nature of the job
sectIon hIghlIghts
Many of the benefits of community are intangiblebull
There are hard number studies available from Ciscorsquos 2004 finding bull that ldquo43 of visits to online support forums are in lieu of opening up a support case through standard methodsrdquo through Dellrsquos tale of $1 million in sales through Twitter last year
Community managers should establish methods to measure their bull own impact on other departmentsrsquo bottom lines
For every person you interact with publicly far more watch that inter-bull action and are impacted
Community management can be another form of networking deliv-bull ering the same kinds of value that conference attendance presenta-tions and related activities deliver
If you read one link from this section Jeremiah Owyangrsquos ldquoCom-munity Managers Must Deliver ROI Commandments For Surviving a Recessionrdquo httpwww web-strategist comblog20090128commu-nity-managers-must-deliver-roi-tips-for-surviving-a-recession
page 34ReadWriteWeb Premium Report 2009
What Kinds of Animals Are These
Whatrsquos the difference between community management and more traditional positions like customer service and marketing That depends on who you ask There isnrsquot much consensus Most people agree though that online community management incorporates some of both of these types of work It also presents unique challenges and opportunities because of the newly public nature of conversations the variety of people now able to discuss things publicly the scale of the Web and the speed of communication
sectIon hIghlIghts
Social media is different than anything thatrsquos happened before be-bull cause of several unique qualities of the internet
Community management takes a particular kind of personality a bull mixture of passion and compassion
This is a demanding job with long hard hours and high public ex-bull pectations
Skill in working with social media tools is importantbull
Management assumptions need to be questioned bull
Good community management will change the business itrsquos per-bull formed for
There are established norms for pay (we list them below)bull
If you read one link in this section Interview with consultant Nancy White httpwwwnetsquaredorgnwhite
page 35ReadWriteWeb Premium Report 2009
ldquordquo
Community manager and expert on the field Connie Benson bristled when we used the marketing word ldquocampaignsrdquo in our interview with her She believes community management should tilt away from marketing towards customer service and thus achieve what could be called ldquopassive business developmentrdquo As the innovators behind the popular forum site GetSatisfactioncom said in their slogan for a recent conference ldquoCustomer service is the new marketingrdquo That means that making your existing customers happy in a public way is the best kind of marketing you can have
the Ideal communIty manager personalItyldquoPassionate but without letting it get out of control
Thick-skinned but not cruel or insensitive Driven but still interested in helping others Personable but always
professionalrdquo - Dan Gray1
Marketing consultant Rick Turoczy says itrsquos a matter of skill sets and authenticity ldquoI think community management is better handled by customer service for the majority of companiesrdquo he told us ldquoMost marketing people donrsquot get it Theyrsquore broadcast only The best community managers Irsquove ever worked with (including before the days of social media) were always in customer service or professional servicesrdquo
While such high-minded ideals are well ideal marketing and community management will probably always have a close if at times uncomfortable relationship Some of the more ldquomarketingrdquo type of work that community managers do includes the creation of original content highlighting selected customer-created content and engaging in conversations off-site on blogs Twitter etc about the company and issues relevant to its industry
1httpbifftheunderstudywordpresscom20081203the-mind-of-a-cm
2 httpconniebensencomblog20080717community-manager-job-description
thIngs that make socIal medIa dIFFerent
Communication is public im-pacting passive site visitors search traffic and others
Blogs will challenge you
Customers can help each other
Conversation happens much faster
Use cases are public customers create content
Your claims are verifiable by Google
page 69ReadWriteWeb Premium Report 2009
ldquordquo
responsible and respectful way
ldquoIf it werenrsquot for Twitter and FriendFeed we would not have had as good a response to our representatives The users on those sites are a quick and smart grouprdquo
cOmmunIty manaGement fOr develOPer cOmmunItIes
Dawn Foster is a widely known online community and marketing consultant She tends to work in developer-centric communities especially open-source ones We asked Dawn to share some experiences shersquos had at various companies that were particularly educational
She told us one unhappy story one story that started out rough but ended up being resolved well and one story that was happy right from the start Her stories resonate well with many
of the other developer community managers wersquove heard from in the rest of this report
Dawn can be found at her blog FastWonderBlogcom and on Twitter at GeekyGirlDawn
the Bad story the company that hated the communIty
ldquoI was working for a company that had a community where the community and company were at extreme odds The relationship was honestly adversarial People at the company were talking about how stupid the community was and the community was talking about how unhelpful the company was They brought me in to help with that but I probably shouldnrsquot have The founders and execs were the ones being hostile
ldquoWhat I learned from that is that no amount of community mangment skills or work will overcome a situation where
company executives donrsquot like the community Had these execs been more eager to participate if it had been people lower in the company causing the problems then that might have
worked
- Pages from rww-reportmay09-working01pdfpdf
- Pages from rww-reportmay09-working01pdf-2pdf
- Pages from rww-reportmay09-working01pdf-3pdf
- Pages from rww-reportmay09-working01pdf-4pdf
-
page 2ReadWriteWeb Premium Report 2009
IntroductIonFraming the issues and describing the parts of the report
the BasIcs Our answers to the first questions companies ask about online community
ldquodo startups need communIty managersrdquoA long blog post that kick started our interest in the topic based on interviews and feedback from more than 50 people in the field
roIA discussion of the different ways to look at the Return on Investment from community management understand the nature of the job by knowing what your company will get out of it
JoB descrIptIonAn exploration of different ways that people describe the work
the marketIngengagement BalanceIs community management marketing customer service or something else Yes
dealIng WIth challengIng communIty memBersItrsquos a part of every community managerrsquos job
Table of Contents
4
7
12
25
34
48
58
page 3ReadWriteWeb Premium Report 2009
IntervIeWsMathew Ingram on the Toronto Globe and Mailrsquos Big Media Community
Lucia Willow on Managing Community at Pandora
Dawn Foster on Managing Developer Communities
Connie Bensen on B2B Community Management
addItIonal resourcesThe Best Podcasts Online Groups and Public Events for Community Managers
64
74
Big thanks to the research team that helped with this report Nisha Chittal Doug Coleman Tim Hattenberger Rennie Wiswall and Nate DiNiro
page 25ReadWriteWeb Premium Report 2009
ROI
Whatrsquos the return on investment (ROI) for online community management Thatrsquos a very important question for a number of reasons First itrsquos a question that advocates for community management are almost always asked by those holding the purse strings at their workplace Secondly engaging with the question helps illuminate the nature of the job
sectIon hIghlIghts
Many of the benefits of community are intangiblebull
There are hard number studies available from Ciscorsquos 2004 finding bull that ldquo43 of visits to online support forums are in lieu of opening up a support case through standard methodsrdquo through Dellrsquos tale of $1 million in sales through Twitter last year
Community managers should establish methods to measure their bull own impact on other departmentsrsquo bottom lines
For every person you interact with publicly far more watch that inter-bull action and are impacted
Community management can be another form of networking deliv-bull ering the same kinds of value that conference attendance presenta-tions and related activities deliver
If you read one link from this section Jeremiah Owyangrsquos ldquoCom-munity Managers Must Deliver ROI Commandments For Surviving a Recessionrdquo httpwww web-strategist comblog20090128commu-nity-managers-must-deliver-roi-tips-for-surviving-a-recession
page 34ReadWriteWeb Premium Report 2009
What Kinds of Animals Are These
Whatrsquos the difference between community management and more traditional positions like customer service and marketing That depends on who you ask There isnrsquot much consensus Most people agree though that online community management incorporates some of both of these types of work It also presents unique challenges and opportunities because of the newly public nature of conversations the variety of people now able to discuss things publicly the scale of the Web and the speed of communication
sectIon hIghlIghts
Social media is different than anything thatrsquos happened before be-bull cause of several unique qualities of the internet
Community management takes a particular kind of personality a bull mixture of passion and compassion
This is a demanding job with long hard hours and high public ex-bull pectations
Skill in working with social media tools is importantbull
Management assumptions need to be questioned bull
Good community management will change the business itrsquos per-bull formed for
There are established norms for pay (we list them below)bull
If you read one link in this section Interview with consultant Nancy White httpwwwnetsquaredorgnwhite
page 35ReadWriteWeb Premium Report 2009
ldquordquo
Community manager and expert on the field Connie Benson bristled when we used the marketing word ldquocampaignsrdquo in our interview with her She believes community management should tilt away from marketing towards customer service and thus achieve what could be called ldquopassive business developmentrdquo As the innovators behind the popular forum site GetSatisfactioncom said in their slogan for a recent conference ldquoCustomer service is the new marketingrdquo That means that making your existing customers happy in a public way is the best kind of marketing you can have
the Ideal communIty manager personalItyldquoPassionate but without letting it get out of control
Thick-skinned but not cruel or insensitive Driven but still interested in helping others Personable but always
professionalrdquo - Dan Gray1
Marketing consultant Rick Turoczy says itrsquos a matter of skill sets and authenticity ldquoI think community management is better handled by customer service for the majority of companiesrdquo he told us ldquoMost marketing people donrsquot get it Theyrsquore broadcast only The best community managers Irsquove ever worked with (including before the days of social media) were always in customer service or professional servicesrdquo
While such high-minded ideals are well ideal marketing and community management will probably always have a close if at times uncomfortable relationship Some of the more ldquomarketingrdquo type of work that community managers do includes the creation of original content highlighting selected customer-created content and engaging in conversations off-site on blogs Twitter etc about the company and issues relevant to its industry
1httpbifftheunderstudywordpresscom20081203the-mind-of-a-cm
2 httpconniebensencomblog20080717community-manager-job-description
thIngs that make socIal medIa dIFFerent
Communication is public im-pacting passive site visitors search traffic and others
Blogs will challenge you
Customers can help each other
Conversation happens much faster
Use cases are public customers create content
Your claims are verifiable by Google
page 69ReadWriteWeb Premium Report 2009
ldquordquo
responsible and respectful way
ldquoIf it werenrsquot for Twitter and FriendFeed we would not have had as good a response to our representatives The users on those sites are a quick and smart grouprdquo
cOmmunIty manaGement fOr develOPer cOmmunItIes
Dawn Foster is a widely known online community and marketing consultant She tends to work in developer-centric communities especially open-source ones We asked Dawn to share some experiences shersquos had at various companies that were particularly educational
She told us one unhappy story one story that started out rough but ended up being resolved well and one story that was happy right from the start Her stories resonate well with many
of the other developer community managers wersquove heard from in the rest of this report
Dawn can be found at her blog FastWonderBlogcom and on Twitter at GeekyGirlDawn
the Bad story the company that hated the communIty
ldquoI was working for a company that had a community where the community and company were at extreme odds The relationship was honestly adversarial People at the company were talking about how stupid the community was and the community was talking about how unhelpful the company was They brought me in to help with that but I probably shouldnrsquot have The founders and execs were the ones being hostile
ldquoWhat I learned from that is that no amount of community mangment skills or work will overcome a situation where
company executives donrsquot like the community Had these execs been more eager to participate if it had been people lower in the company causing the problems then that might have
worked
- Pages from rww-reportmay09-working01pdfpdf
- Pages from rww-reportmay09-working01pdf-2pdf
- Pages from rww-reportmay09-working01pdf-3pdf
- Pages from rww-reportmay09-working01pdf-4pdf
-
page 3ReadWriteWeb Premium Report 2009
IntervIeWsMathew Ingram on the Toronto Globe and Mailrsquos Big Media Community
Lucia Willow on Managing Community at Pandora
Dawn Foster on Managing Developer Communities
Connie Bensen on B2B Community Management
addItIonal resourcesThe Best Podcasts Online Groups and Public Events for Community Managers
64
74
Big thanks to the research team that helped with this report Nisha Chittal Doug Coleman Tim Hattenberger Rennie Wiswall and Nate DiNiro
page 25ReadWriteWeb Premium Report 2009
ROI
Whatrsquos the return on investment (ROI) for online community management Thatrsquos a very important question for a number of reasons First itrsquos a question that advocates for community management are almost always asked by those holding the purse strings at their workplace Secondly engaging with the question helps illuminate the nature of the job
sectIon hIghlIghts
Many of the benefits of community are intangiblebull
There are hard number studies available from Ciscorsquos 2004 finding bull that ldquo43 of visits to online support forums are in lieu of opening up a support case through standard methodsrdquo through Dellrsquos tale of $1 million in sales through Twitter last year
Community managers should establish methods to measure their bull own impact on other departmentsrsquo bottom lines
For every person you interact with publicly far more watch that inter-bull action and are impacted
Community management can be another form of networking deliv-bull ering the same kinds of value that conference attendance presenta-tions and related activities deliver
If you read one link from this section Jeremiah Owyangrsquos ldquoCom-munity Managers Must Deliver ROI Commandments For Surviving a Recessionrdquo httpwww web-strategist comblog20090128commu-nity-managers-must-deliver-roi-tips-for-surviving-a-recession
page 34ReadWriteWeb Premium Report 2009
What Kinds of Animals Are These
Whatrsquos the difference between community management and more traditional positions like customer service and marketing That depends on who you ask There isnrsquot much consensus Most people agree though that online community management incorporates some of both of these types of work It also presents unique challenges and opportunities because of the newly public nature of conversations the variety of people now able to discuss things publicly the scale of the Web and the speed of communication
sectIon hIghlIghts
Social media is different than anything thatrsquos happened before be-bull cause of several unique qualities of the internet
Community management takes a particular kind of personality a bull mixture of passion and compassion
This is a demanding job with long hard hours and high public ex-bull pectations
Skill in working with social media tools is importantbull
Management assumptions need to be questioned bull
Good community management will change the business itrsquos per-bull formed for
There are established norms for pay (we list them below)bull
If you read one link in this section Interview with consultant Nancy White httpwwwnetsquaredorgnwhite
page 35ReadWriteWeb Premium Report 2009
ldquordquo
Community manager and expert on the field Connie Benson bristled when we used the marketing word ldquocampaignsrdquo in our interview with her She believes community management should tilt away from marketing towards customer service and thus achieve what could be called ldquopassive business developmentrdquo As the innovators behind the popular forum site GetSatisfactioncom said in their slogan for a recent conference ldquoCustomer service is the new marketingrdquo That means that making your existing customers happy in a public way is the best kind of marketing you can have
the Ideal communIty manager personalItyldquoPassionate but without letting it get out of control
Thick-skinned but not cruel or insensitive Driven but still interested in helping others Personable but always
professionalrdquo - Dan Gray1
Marketing consultant Rick Turoczy says itrsquos a matter of skill sets and authenticity ldquoI think community management is better handled by customer service for the majority of companiesrdquo he told us ldquoMost marketing people donrsquot get it Theyrsquore broadcast only The best community managers Irsquove ever worked with (including before the days of social media) were always in customer service or professional servicesrdquo
While such high-minded ideals are well ideal marketing and community management will probably always have a close if at times uncomfortable relationship Some of the more ldquomarketingrdquo type of work that community managers do includes the creation of original content highlighting selected customer-created content and engaging in conversations off-site on blogs Twitter etc about the company and issues relevant to its industry
1httpbifftheunderstudywordpresscom20081203the-mind-of-a-cm
2 httpconniebensencomblog20080717community-manager-job-description
thIngs that make socIal medIa dIFFerent
Communication is public im-pacting passive site visitors search traffic and others
Blogs will challenge you
Customers can help each other
Conversation happens much faster
Use cases are public customers create content
Your claims are verifiable by Google
page 69ReadWriteWeb Premium Report 2009
ldquordquo
responsible and respectful way
ldquoIf it werenrsquot for Twitter and FriendFeed we would not have had as good a response to our representatives The users on those sites are a quick and smart grouprdquo
cOmmunIty manaGement fOr develOPer cOmmunItIes
Dawn Foster is a widely known online community and marketing consultant She tends to work in developer-centric communities especially open-source ones We asked Dawn to share some experiences shersquos had at various companies that were particularly educational
She told us one unhappy story one story that started out rough but ended up being resolved well and one story that was happy right from the start Her stories resonate well with many
of the other developer community managers wersquove heard from in the rest of this report
Dawn can be found at her blog FastWonderBlogcom and on Twitter at GeekyGirlDawn
the Bad story the company that hated the communIty
ldquoI was working for a company that had a community where the community and company were at extreme odds The relationship was honestly adversarial People at the company were talking about how stupid the community was and the community was talking about how unhelpful the company was They brought me in to help with that but I probably shouldnrsquot have The founders and execs were the ones being hostile
ldquoWhat I learned from that is that no amount of community mangment skills or work will overcome a situation where
company executives donrsquot like the community Had these execs been more eager to participate if it had been people lower in the company causing the problems then that might have
worked
- Pages from rww-reportmay09-working01pdfpdf
- Pages from rww-reportmay09-working01pdf-2pdf
- Pages from rww-reportmay09-working01pdf-3pdf
- Pages from rww-reportmay09-working01pdf-4pdf
-
page 25ReadWriteWeb Premium Report 2009
ROI
Whatrsquos the return on investment (ROI) for online community management Thatrsquos a very important question for a number of reasons First itrsquos a question that advocates for community management are almost always asked by those holding the purse strings at their workplace Secondly engaging with the question helps illuminate the nature of the job
sectIon hIghlIghts
Many of the benefits of community are intangiblebull
There are hard number studies available from Ciscorsquos 2004 finding bull that ldquo43 of visits to online support forums are in lieu of opening up a support case through standard methodsrdquo through Dellrsquos tale of $1 million in sales through Twitter last year
Community managers should establish methods to measure their bull own impact on other departmentsrsquo bottom lines
For every person you interact with publicly far more watch that inter-bull action and are impacted
Community management can be another form of networking deliv-bull ering the same kinds of value that conference attendance presenta-tions and related activities deliver
If you read one link from this section Jeremiah Owyangrsquos ldquoCom-munity Managers Must Deliver ROI Commandments For Surviving a Recessionrdquo httpwww web-strategist comblog20090128commu-nity-managers-must-deliver-roi-tips-for-surviving-a-recession
page 34ReadWriteWeb Premium Report 2009
What Kinds of Animals Are These
Whatrsquos the difference between community management and more traditional positions like customer service and marketing That depends on who you ask There isnrsquot much consensus Most people agree though that online community management incorporates some of both of these types of work It also presents unique challenges and opportunities because of the newly public nature of conversations the variety of people now able to discuss things publicly the scale of the Web and the speed of communication
sectIon hIghlIghts
Social media is different than anything thatrsquos happened before be-bull cause of several unique qualities of the internet
Community management takes a particular kind of personality a bull mixture of passion and compassion
This is a demanding job with long hard hours and high public ex-bull pectations
Skill in working with social media tools is importantbull
Management assumptions need to be questioned bull
Good community management will change the business itrsquos per-bull formed for
There are established norms for pay (we list them below)bull
If you read one link in this section Interview with consultant Nancy White httpwwwnetsquaredorgnwhite
page 35ReadWriteWeb Premium Report 2009
ldquordquo
Community manager and expert on the field Connie Benson bristled when we used the marketing word ldquocampaignsrdquo in our interview with her She believes community management should tilt away from marketing towards customer service and thus achieve what could be called ldquopassive business developmentrdquo As the innovators behind the popular forum site GetSatisfactioncom said in their slogan for a recent conference ldquoCustomer service is the new marketingrdquo That means that making your existing customers happy in a public way is the best kind of marketing you can have
the Ideal communIty manager personalItyldquoPassionate but without letting it get out of control
Thick-skinned but not cruel or insensitive Driven but still interested in helping others Personable but always
professionalrdquo - Dan Gray1
Marketing consultant Rick Turoczy says itrsquos a matter of skill sets and authenticity ldquoI think community management is better handled by customer service for the majority of companiesrdquo he told us ldquoMost marketing people donrsquot get it Theyrsquore broadcast only The best community managers Irsquove ever worked with (including before the days of social media) were always in customer service or professional servicesrdquo
While such high-minded ideals are well ideal marketing and community management will probably always have a close if at times uncomfortable relationship Some of the more ldquomarketingrdquo type of work that community managers do includes the creation of original content highlighting selected customer-created content and engaging in conversations off-site on blogs Twitter etc about the company and issues relevant to its industry
1httpbifftheunderstudywordpresscom20081203the-mind-of-a-cm
2 httpconniebensencomblog20080717community-manager-job-description
thIngs that make socIal medIa dIFFerent
Communication is public im-pacting passive site visitors search traffic and others
Blogs will challenge you
Customers can help each other
Conversation happens much faster
Use cases are public customers create content
Your claims are verifiable by Google
page 69ReadWriteWeb Premium Report 2009
ldquordquo
responsible and respectful way
ldquoIf it werenrsquot for Twitter and FriendFeed we would not have had as good a response to our representatives The users on those sites are a quick and smart grouprdquo
cOmmunIty manaGement fOr develOPer cOmmunItIes
Dawn Foster is a widely known online community and marketing consultant She tends to work in developer-centric communities especially open-source ones We asked Dawn to share some experiences shersquos had at various companies that were particularly educational
She told us one unhappy story one story that started out rough but ended up being resolved well and one story that was happy right from the start Her stories resonate well with many
of the other developer community managers wersquove heard from in the rest of this report
Dawn can be found at her blog FastWonderBlogcom and on Twitter at GeekyGirlDawn
the Bad story the company that hated the communIty
ldquoI was working for a company that had a community where the community and company were at extreme odds The relationship was honestly adversarial People at the company were talking about how stupid the community was and the community was talking about how unhelpful the company was They brought me in to help with that but I probably shouldnrsquot have The founders and execs were the ones being hostile
ldquoWhat I learned from that is that no amount of community mangment skills or work will overcome a situation where
company executives donrsquot like the community Had these execs been more eager to participate if it had been people lower in the company causing the problems then that might have
worked
- Pages from rww-reportmay09-working01pdfpdf
- Pages from rww-reportmay09-working01pdf-2pdf
- Pages from rww-reportmay09-working01pdf-3pdf
- Pages from rww-reportmay09-working01pdf-4pdf
-
page 34ReadWriteWeb Premium Report 2009
What Kinds of Animals Are These
Whatrsquos the difference between community management and more traditional positions like customer service and marketing That depends on who you ask There isnrsquot much consensus Most people agree though that online community management incorporates some of both of these types of work It also presents unique challenges and opportunities because of the newly public nature of conversations the variety of people now able to discuss things publicly the scale of the Web and the speed of communication
sectIon hIghlIghts
Social media is different than anything thatrsquos happened before be-bull cause of several unique qualities of the internet
Community management takes a particular kind of personality a bull mixture of passion and compassion
This is a demanding job with long hard hours and high public ex-bull pectations
Skill in working with social media tools is importantbull
Management assumptions need to be questioned bull
Good community management will change the business itrsquos per-bull formed for
There are established norms for pay (we list them below)bull
If you read one link in this section Interview with consultant Nancy White httpwwwnetsquaredorgnwhite
page 35ReadWriteWeb Premium Report 2009
ldquordquo
Community manager and expert on the field Connie Benson bristled when we used the marketing word ldquocampaignsrdquo in our interview with her She believes community management should tilt away from marketing towards customer service and thus achieve what could be called ldquopassive business developmentrdquo As the innovators behind the popular forum site GetSatisfactioncom said in their slogan for a recent conference ldquoCustomer service is the new marketingrdquo That means that making your existing customers happy in a public way is the best kind of marketing you can have
the Ideal communIty manager personalItyldquoPassionate but without letting it get out of control
Thick-skinned but not cruel or insensitive Driven but still interested in helping others Personable but always
professionalrdquo - Dan Gray1
Marketing consultant Rick Turoczy says itrsquos a matter of skill sets and authenticity ldquoI think community management is better handled by customer service for the majority of companiesrdquo he told us ldquoMost marketing people donrsquot get it Theyrsquore broadcast only The best community managers Irsquove ever worked with (including before the days of social media) were always in customer service or professional servicesrdquo
While such high-minded ideals are well ideal marketing and community management will probably always have a close if at times uncomfortable relationship Some of the more ldquomarketingrdquo type of work that community managers do includes the creation of original content highlighting selected customer-created content and engaging in conversations off-site on blogs Twitter etc about the company and issues relevant to its industry
1httpbifftheunderstudywordpresscom20081203the-mind-of-a-cm
2 httpconniebensencomblog20080717community-manager-job-description
thIngs that make socIal medIa dIFFerent
Communication is public im-pacting passive site visitors search traffic and others
Blogs will challenge you
Customers can help each other
Conversation happens much faster
Use cases are public customers create content
Your claims are verifiable by Google
page 69ReadWriteWeb Premium Report 2009
ldquordquo
responsible and respectful way
ldquoIf it werenrsquot for Twitter and FriendFeed we would not have had as good a response to our representatives The users on those sites are a quick and smart grouprdquo
cOmmunIty manaGement fOr develOPer cOmmunItIes
Dawn Foster is a widely known online community and marketing consultant She tends to work in developer-centric communities especially open-source ones We asked Dawn to share some experiences shersquos had at various companies that were particularly educational
She told us one unhappy story one story that started out rough but ended up being resolved well and one story that was happy right from the start Her stories resonate well with many
of the other developer community managers wersquove heard from in the rest of this report
Dawn can be found at her blog FastWonderBlogcom and on Twitter at GeekyGirlDawn
the Bad story the company that hated the communIty
ldquoI was working for a company that had a community where the community and company were at extreme odds The relationship was honestly adversarial People at the company were talking about how stupid the community was and the community was talking about how unhelpful the company was They brought me in to help with that but I probably shouldnrsquot have The founders and execs were the ones being hostile
ldquoWhat I learned from that is that no amount of community mangment skills or work will overcome a situation where
company executives donrsquot like the community Had these execs been more eager to participate if it had been people lower in the company causing the problems then that might have
worked
- Pages from rww-reportmay09-working01pdfpdf
- Pages from rww-reportmay09-working01pdf-2pdf
- Pages from rww-reportmay09-working01pdf-3pdf
- Pages from rww-reportmay09-working01pdf-4pdf
-
page 35ReadWriteWeb Premium Report 2009
ldquordquo
Community manager and expert on the field Connie Benson bristled when we used the marketing word ldquocampaignsrdquo in our interview with her She believes community management should tilt away from marketing towards customer service and thus achieve what could be called ldquopassive business developmentrdquo As the innovators behind the popular forum site GetSatisfactioncom said in their slogan for a recent conference ldquoCustomer service is the new marketingrdquo That means that making your existing customers happy in a public way is the best kind of marketing you can have
the Ideal communIty manager personalItyldquoPassionate but without letting it get out of control
Thick-skinned but not cruel or insensitive Driven but still interested in helping others Personable but always
professionalrdquo - Dan Gray1
Marketing consultant Rick Turoczy says itrsquos a matter of skill sets and authenticity ldquoI think community management is better handled by customer service for the majority of companiesrdquo he told us ldquoMost marketing people donrsquot get it Theyrsquore broadcast only The best community managers Irsquove ever worked with (including before the days of social media) were always in customer service or professional servicesrdquo
While such high-minded ideals are well ideal marketing and community management will probably always have a close if at times uncomfortable relationship Some of the more ldquomarketingrdquo type of work that community managers do includes the creation of original content highlighting selected customer-created content and engaging in conversations off-site on blogs Twitter etc about the company and issues relevant to its industry
1httpbifftheunderstudywordpresscom20081203the-mind-of-a-cm
2 httpconniebensencomblog20080717community-manager-job-description
thIngs that make socIal medIa dIFFerent
Communication is public im-pacting passive site visitors search traffic and others
Blogs will challenge you
Customers can help each other
Conversation happens much faster
Use cases are public customers create content
Your claims are verifiable by Google
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responsible and respectful way
ldquoIf it werenrsquot for Twitter and FriendFeed we would not have had as good a response to our representatives The users on those sites are a quick and smart grouprdquo
cOmmunIty manaGement fOr develOPer cOmmunItIes
Dawn Foster is a widely known online community and marketing consultant She tends to work in developer-centric communities especially open-source ones We asked Dawn to share some experiences shersquos had at various companies that were particularly educational
She told us one unhappy story one story that started out rough but ended up being resolved well and one story that was happy right from the start Her stories resonate well with many
of the other developer community managers wersquove heard from in the rest of this report
Dawn can be found at her blog FastWonderBlogcom and on Twitter at GeekyGirlDawn
the Bad story the company that hated the communIty
ldquoI was working for a company that had a community where the community and company were at extreme odds The relationship was honestly adversarial People at the company were talking about how stupid the community was and the community was talking about how unhelpful the company was They brought me in to help with that but I probably shouldnrsquot have The founders and execs were the ones being hostile
ldquoWhat I learned from that is that no amount of community mangment skills or work will overcome a situation where
company executives donrsquot like the community Had these execs been more eager to participate if it had been people lower in the company causing the problems then that might have
worked
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- Pages from rww-reportmay09-working01pdf-3pdf
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page 69ReadWriteWeb Premium Report 2009
ldquordquo
responsible and respectful way
ldquoIf it werenrsquot for Twitter and FriendFeed we would not have had as good a response to our representatives The users on those sites are a quick and smart grouprdquo
cOmmunIty manaGement fOr develOPer cOmmunItIes
Dawn Foster is a widely known online community and marketing consultant She tends to work in developer-centric communities especially open-source ones We asked Dawn to share some experiences shersquos had at various companies that were particularly educational
She told us one unhappy story one story that started out rough but ended up being resolved well and one story that was happy right from the start Her stories resonate well with many
of the other developer community managers wersquove heard from in the rest of this report
Dawn can be found at her blog FastWonderBlogcom and on Twitter at GeekyGirlDawn
the Bad story the company that hated the communIty
ldquoI was working for a company that had a community where the community and company were at extreme odds The relationship was honestly adversarial People at the company were talking about how stupid the community was and the community was talking about how unhelpful the company was They brought me in to help with that but I probably shouldnrsquot have The founders and execs were the ones being hostile
ldquoWhat I learned from that is that no amount of community mangment skills or work will overcome a situation where
company executives donrsquot like the community Had these execs been more eager to participate if it had been people lower in the company causing the problems then that might have
worked
- Pages from rww-reportmay09-working01pdfpdf
- Pages from rww-reportmay09-working01pdf-2pdf
- Pages from rww-reportmay09-working01pdf-3pdf
- Pages from rww-reportmay09-working01pdf-4pdf
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