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Podcast #54 from http://www.bengreenfieldfitness.com/2009/08/podcast-
episode-54-the-magnesium-miracle/
Introduction: Welcome to podcast episode number 54 from
www.bengreenfieldfitness.com and today’s podcast episode
is going to be a little bit out of the ordinary because we
usually have a Listener Q and A, we have special
announcements, we have our featured topic and we usually
close with some extra information as well but today is going
to be simply the featured topic and the main reason for that
is that I have just had a host of feedback from last week’s
podcast in terms of people wanting to know where they can
go to get tested for these 6 key factors that we talked about in
podcast number 53. If you listened to that podcast, you’ll
remember that I spoke with Dr. Richard Cohen and he
basically has a proprietary way for people to test essential
amino acid levels, vitamin D, magnesium, calcium, PH,
metabolic type and a host of other factors from the comfort
of their own home. So what I’m going to do today is tell you
exactly who you need to call, what steps you need to take to
get that done, and then we’re going to move into our
interview with one of the nation’s top experts on magnesium,
author of the The Magnesium Miracle and just a wealth of
information on health and performance. But before I do that,
the moment you’ve all been waiting for, here is what you
need to do to get your home test kit for the 6 key
performance factors. Ok, so get out your pen, you’re going to
want to write this down because this is not available to the
general public, I’m not putting it in the Shownotes to the
podcast. This is the only place you’re going to get it, if you’re
listening to this podcast. But Dr. Cohen has given me the
number that you actually need to call in order to get hooked
up with this kit. Ready? Ok, here it is. 8883711033. And what
he said you need to do is just call and tell them that you
heard about the kit over at the Ben Greenfield Fitness.com
podcast and he will hook you up with everything you need.
And again, this is not really available to the general public
right now. This is just something that Dr. Cohen is going to
be able to hook you up with. So that’s 8883711033. I literally
just this week got done testing my body for everything. It
took me about 48 hours, very smooth process, everything
was prepaid postage. When it arrived in a kit at my house, I
just took care of the samples and dropped them off at UPS
and USPS and off they went. So give Dr. Cohen a call and if
you don’t know what I’m talking about, listen to podcast
episode number 53. So in today’s featured topic, we’re going
to hear from somebody who literally is today’s doctor of the
future. She’s the author of a book The Magnesium Miracle
and I’ll put a link to that in the Shownotes. But she’s
authored 16 books including The Yeast Connection In
Women’s Health and Irritable Bowel Syndrome For
Dummies. She’s been on TV regularly, all over – ABC, NBC,
CBS. She’s medical director for the Nutritional Magnesium
Association. And during this interview we’re going to talk
about some very interesting topics in the field of magnesium
and health. Now you’re going to hear us throwing around a
lot of terms about tests, about different types of supplements
that are out there, about videos you can go watch to learn
about magnesium, calcium balances. I’m going to put a link
to everything in the Shownotes. So you can just surf on over
to www.bengreenfieldfitness.com and click on podcast
episode 54 and you’ll see the link for everything in there.
Let’s go ahead and move on to this week’s featured topic.
Podcast listeners, this is Ben Greenfield and I have on the
other line today a woman who has been called the doctor of
the future. She’s not just a medical doctor, but she’s a
naturopath, she’s a herbalist, she’s an acupuncturist, she’s
the author of 16 books. She wrote a book called The Yeast
Connection In Women’s Health. Another one called IBS for
Dummies. That’s Irritable Bowel Syndrome For Dummies.
And the book that we’re going to talk about today at least the
focus of the book is The Magnesium Miracle. And in The
Magnesium Miracle, Dr. Dean talks about some of the
missing links to completely optimizing your health. If you
haven’t heard some of the other interviews that have
appeared on this show about magnesium, I would highly
encourage you to go back and listen to those. Take the
information that you find today and apply it into your own
health and your own life. You’re going to notice some results
but Dr. Dean is actually the medical director for the
Nutritional Magnesium Association. You can find out more
about that at www.nutritionalmagnesium.com and if you
happen to be in front of your computer as you listen in today,
you can surf over to Dr. Dean’s website at
www.drcarolyndean.com. Dr. Dean, welcome to the show.
Dr. Carolyn Dean: Thank you very much Ben and let me just clarify it’s
www.nutritionalmagnesium.org. We’re a foundation and an
organization and we disseminate information about
magnesium to the public so we’re a .org.
Ben: We’ll make sure that the correct URL appears in the
Shownotes to this podcast. Now I noticed that you’re an MD,
a medical doctor, but you have a lot of other titles as well.
You’re a naturopath, herbalist, acupuncturist – where did
you get started? How did you come into this position that
you’re in today?
Dr. Carolyn Dean: I was interested in nutrition in my teens so I kept running
around telling people to eat right and exercise but no one
would listen to me so when I was in honors biology I decided
to go into medicine. When all the young kids around me
were getting into medicine school, I thought well I can do
better than that. So I went into medicine and at the end of
medicine I did my naturopathic training and picked up
acupuncture and herbalism along the way.
Ben: Now where did you study naturopathy?
Dr. Carolyn Dean: In Toronto, it was then the Ontario School of Naturopathic
Medicine. Now it’s the Canadian College of Naturopathic
Medicine.
Ben: And then you went on to medical school after that?
Dr. Carolyn Dean: I did medicine first.
Ben: Oh right, you got your MD first and then you went on and got
the ND afterwards.
Dr. Carolyn Dean: Yes, because I was interested in natural medicine and I just
wanted to make sure I covered all the basics. Because in
medical school, they tried to talk us out of doing anything
natural. It was looked upon as being quackish and still is
unfortunately. We didn’t learn anything about nutrition in
medicine.
Ben: So along the way you’ve obviously learned quite a bit and it
seems the books that you’ve authored really span the gamut
but what inspired you to write The Magnesium Miracle?
Dr. Carolyn Dean: What happened is I was meeting with a publisher about
Chinese medicine diet book and we said oh we just signed on
a title but would you write something on magnesium. And
apparently the editor, she’d had some severe back pain and
also some migraines and someone told her to take
magnesium and it cured her. So she thought it would be a
worthy title. So I just dove into the research thinking how…
maybe I can write a pamphlet. How can I get a 250 page
book out of magnesium and I was pretty stunned. The
doctors that wrote the foreword for my book – Burton and
Bella Altura – they alone had done a thousand studies on
magnesium and the importance of it so there was a wealth of
information. It turned out to be a fabulous book and it’s been
helping thousands and thousands of people.
Ben: Now when you were studying for this book or when you were
researching this book – were you… this is something you
hear about medical students a lot… they’ll study a certain
phenomenon and find that they realize that they’ve been
experiencing those same symptoms themselves. Did you
personally find that when you were writing this book, you
realized that you yourself needed magnesium or could be
deficient in magnesium?
Dr. Carolyn Dean: Absolutely. What you’re talking about first is called medical
student’s disease. Every time we studied a new organ or a
new system… oh my gosh, I’ve got all of that. I certainly had
magnesium deficiency symptoms. My heart would skip and
palpitate a little bit. I’d get incredible leg muscle cramps
lying in bed at night. If I stretched my leg I’d get this
humongous charley horse and energy levels, a little bit
insomnia. You go down the list so even though I was on a
multiple with magnesium already because I understood that
I needed more vitamins and minerals, I took extra
magnesium and one thing that happened when I moved to
Maui last June – I started exercising more. You just walk
more. I do an hour and a half back and forth to the beach
and swim for 35, 45 minutes and I was beginning to get
cramping in the water when I’d really go all out trying to
follow a turtle. And I had to double my magnesium because
my exercise… I was sweating it out and I really needed to put
it back in my body.
Ben: And you’re what we would probably consider a healthy
individual. A physician.
Dr. Carolyn Dean: Well most physicians are not healthy. I’m actually an
exception.
Ben: This is true.
Dr. Carolyn Dean: Get that straight.
Ben: But we do get a lot of people who listen in who are active
individuals, people who eat healthy, people who exercise
frequently. Some people are even Ironman triathletes.
They’re taking care of their bodies in as much as doing an
Ironman triathlon is taking care of your body, but should
they even really care about magnesium in your opinion?
Dr. Carolyn Dean: Absolutely. Because when I think of athletes, I think sweat.
The sweat pouring and dripping off your body. And when I
looked up what’s in sweat and what is coming out – you lick
your skin and it tastes salty. So we assume, ok. There’s
sodium coming out but if you look up anywhere, the research
is all done. In your sweat there’s sodium, there’s potassium,
calcium, magnesium and any other trace elements that are in
your body that can be excreted… your saline in your blood.
The liquidy white watery part of blood. That has all the
minerals and elements that your body needs to work and
you’re losing bits of that. However what happens when you
look at something for mineral replacement – the Gatorades,
etc. – what have they got? They’ve got water, sugar, table salt
and the electrolytes that they put back in are just sodium,
potassium and chloride. And the high fructose corn syrup is
higher than your sodium and potassium. So what happens is
if you’re just replacing sugars and sodium and a bit of
potassium, you’re not replacing your magnesium and setting
yourself up for the muscle spasms that occur when you’ve got
too little magnesium. What happens in most people is we’ve
got too much calcium compared to magnesium in our diet so
we tend to get overloaded with calcium and calcium tightens
up muscles and cells and too little magnesium which we need
to relax cells – I’d like to send your listeners to a website
www.nutritionalmagnesium.org and there’s an excellent
video there. It’s just a two minute video on the workings of
magnesium and calcium at the cellular level and it’s
fascinating because even at the cellular level, the way the cell
allows calcium and magnesium in and out is dependent on
magnesium. If you don’t have enough magnesium, the cell
will maintain a rigid opening that allows as much calcium in
as much as you can jam in there which sets the cell off into a
spasm. If you have enough calcium, that cell channel closes
down properly, opens and closes as you need tiny bits of
calcium to do a nerve function or a muscle function. So
there’s a physiology of what’s actually happening with
calcium and magnesium. And your body doesn’t work
properly at the cell level or at the muscle level or actually at
the tissue level of any organ without the proper amounts of
magnesium.
Ben: I think it’s interesting. You come across ultra endurance
athletes who have had heart problems, died of heart attacks
or had severe heart issues and it seems as though the issue of
magnesium deficiency is not something that comes up in the
media all that much. But I can just say from personal
experience, when I’ve gone for a long 2, 2 and a half, up to 3
hour run and come back and sat in the living room, you don’t
feel right. And a lot of times, it is even at the level of feeling
like your heart is not beating correctly. And I’ve spoken to a
lot of athletes that feel that when they’ve depleted their
bodies even when they’re doing things like drinking
Gatorade or salting their food.
Dr. Carolyn Dean: Yes. It’s wonderful to hear your personal experience because
I can relate to it both personally and with the research I’ve
done. In The Magnesium Miracle book, chapter four, I have a
whole chapter or section on magnesium and exercise and I
say the three things you need to know about magnesium and
exercise is magnesium reduces lactic acid which causes post-
exercise pain. Magnesium is lost during exercise and
magnesium deficiency may cause sudden cardiac death in
healthy athletes. And what happens… if you go to this
www.nutritionalmagnesium.org website and see that video,
it’ll just become crystal clear what’s going on with your cells
and when you sit down after heavy exercise and your heart is
kind of shaking a little almost. Instead of the regular beating,
there’s shaking going on – well that’s the section or
percentage of your heart muscles that just aren’t getting the
right amounts of calcium and magnesium and they’re
shivering in their action instead of giving a forceful
contraction. And that’s what people feel throughout their
bodies. I have athletes who’ve depleted themselves over the
years and then they get a really stressful incident and then
they turn into people who are anxiety prone. They have panic
attacks, they can’t drive their car anymore. They can’t cross
bridges. And it’s just devastating because these are super
athletes and their confidence is shattered where sometimes
they become agoraphobic and they can’t even leave their
homes. Well all of that can be a magnesium deficiency.
Because when you’re low in magnesium, your adrenal
glands aren’t working properly. Every… your hormones are
out of balance, it’s a lot of information to throw into one
interview. But there’s a list of about 22 different conditions
that are scientifically proven to be caused by magnesium
deficiency or made worse by magnesium deficiency and it
starts with anxiety and panic attacks. And then there’s
asthma, blood clots, constipation, bladder spasms,
depression, diabetes, fatigue, heart disease, hypertension,
hypoglycemia, insomnia, kidney stones… kidney stones are
huge in terms of magnesium deficiency. Then there’s
migraines, any sort of muscular-skeletal condition. This
fibrocytis and fibromyalgia, muscle spasms, eye twitches,
cramps and chronic neck and back pain, any sort of nerve
problem. Premenstrual syndrome in women, it’s huge. The
painful cramping, infertility, problems with labor and
delivery. Then there’s osteoporosis, Reynaud’s syndrome,
sudden death infant death syndrome, tooth decay and
toxicity. So, it covers the gamut.
Ben: You know, you’d think that people would have discovered by
now over the past thousands of years of nutritional studies
that these types of health problems are associated with a
magnesium deficiency. From what I’ve heard from other
people that we’ve had on the show, a big part of it is that our
food is no longer giving us the amounts of magnesium that
we used to get from it. Is this true?
Dr. Carolyn Dean: That’s part one of the equation. 100 years ago we received in
an average diet about 500 mgs of magnesium. Now, we’re
lucky to get 150 mgs even if the food is organic because it
depends entirely on whether or not the fertilizers contain
magnesium. Yes, the second part of the equation of why
magnesium isn’t recognized is that in medicine, people will
just test magnesium in the blood and only 1% of the
magnesium in the whole body is in the blood. 1%. And that
amount is guarded very closely by the body’s physiology and
feedback mechanisms because it has to keep the heart going
properly. So that level will pretty much always be normal
except if (unintelligible) magnesium deficiency. Doctors have
run a lot of magnesium blood tests and they say well it’s
usually normal so why bother testing? And the red blood cell
test is what you want. In the red blood cells, actually at the
cell level, there’s more like 40% of the magnesium in the
body. So it’s a better test to do to check your levels. But
because it’s so hard to get the proper blood testing, there’s
two things that I tell people to do. One is that that there’s an
EXA test and there’s a website www.exatest.com and they do
a scraping under the tongue of some of your skin cells and a
chiropractor or a naturopath will usually do this test, send it
off to the lab and they’ll look at it under an electron
microscope and tell you what your mineral levels are. And
the second thing is people will get my book The Magnesium
Miracle, and I have a section about who is deficient. And I
found 100 factors that relate to someone’s need for
magnesium. We went over the conditions that if people are
taking more than 7 drinks of alcohol they can be diminishing
their magnesium. Or if they have any sort of arrhythmia of
the heart or heart pain, if they get angry a lot, that can be a
magnesium deficiency sign. So it’s the symptoms that you
have, you can go through this list and check them off and if it
seems you have a dozen or more, then magnesium may be
something you could try. Because it’s so safe, I can feel pretty
secure in telling people to give it a clinical trial.
Ben: Right, and even if you’re not experiencing health problems,
what I found in my use of it is… you talked a little bit about
muscle soreness and a little bit about insomnia. I’ve been
using a transdermal magnesium in areas of muscle soreness
and I’ve found that there’s a significant decrease after the
following day after a workout when I use magnesium on a
sore muscle – you had talked about lactic acid being one of
the things that can contribute to muscle soreness. I’ve also
seen research that indicates that that can be related to
calcium leakage and its seems as though there’s a possibility
based off the explanation that you gave for the heart, that
magnesium may actually be limiting the amount of calcium
leakage that occurs in the muscle. That’s one thing I noticed.
The other thing, you mentioned insomnia. My wife and I
have used it before as almost like a massage oil and slept
incredibly better after utilizing the magnesium. Neither of us
have insomnia but there’s a difference between sleeping for 7
hours and waking up a couple of times during the night and
sleeping for 8 hours solid and waking up completely
refreshed. So, I think even for the healthy people – the
people who think they’re healthy listening in to the show, the
quality of life could still be improved. I did have a quick
question for you about the testing. You said that red blood
cell was one way to do it. This EXA test that you mentioned
was another. I’ve seen a test… a hair mineral analysis test,
would this actually test people’s magnesium levels accurately?
Dr. Carolyn Dean: Well I studied hair testing in my naturopathic training and
there’s so many factors in what happens in the hair. Like it
can be high in the hair because you’re excreting too much of
a mineral or it can be low in the hair because you’re utilizing
it properly. So except for poisons and toxins like heavy
metals, I try to stay away from hair analysis. I know that
some people are very adept in reading them, but I don’t think
it’s the best way to check on calcium and magnesium levels.
You have to get a hair growing for a couple of months before
you know what happens. So you’re always looking at a rear
view mirror of your mineral status.
Ben: Interesting. Now let’s say someone tests their magnesium
levels or they perhaps suspect that they are deficient. How
can they ensure that they actually begin consuming adequate
magnesium or begin getting adequate magnesium. What
options are out there for people?
Dr. Carolyn Dean: Well you mentioned the transdermal and I got into that after
writing the IBS for Dummies book because there are people
with IBS diarrhea that can’t take any oral magnesium or
don’t think they can take it because it causes a laxative effect.
And actually that’s one of the bonuses of magnesium -- is if
you get an overload, you just lose it in your stool and some of
it comes out in your urine too. So it’s very difficult to get an
overload of magnesium. Someone who can get an overload of
magnesium is someone on kidney dialysis and what I do
there is switch them over to an angstrom magnesium.
There’s a company called Complete H20 Minerals and
they’ve made minerals including magnesium into a size
between a picometer and a nanometer that is accepted
entirely into the cell. And what we know from physicists in
very recent research is that the cell mineral ion channel that
allows minerals in and out of the cells is between 4 and 5
angstroms in diameter. So, the minerals that get into cells
have to be at the angstrom size. When you take a pill from a
drug store – a magnesium pill from a drug store or even a
health food store – I call those dirt minerals. They’re not
angstrom sized. Plants, for example. They won’t absorb
minerals into their tiny, tiny rootlets until they’re the
angstrom size. So that’s why there’s a lot of talk of using
plant based minerals and vitamins as well because they’re in
the form that our bodies will accept. So we’ve got oral,
powders, magnesium citrate. They come most often in
flavored form that you mix in warm or hot water and drink it
as a tea and that helps the absorption. You’ve got the
transdermal that you can use. You can use two of them. I
actually use all three forms because I have a situation with
my body where I get the laxative effect too quickly. In order
to get the amount I need, it’s gone before I know it. So I use
the transdermal on my skin. I use some magnesium citrate
when I need a little bit of a laxative effect. And I use mostly
the angstrom magnesium. I also use calcium. They have vials
of magnesium calcium boron. When I’m working out a lot, I
use their sports blend which is the primo electrolyte
replacement. It comes in a little ampoule. A little plastic
ampoule and you snap it off and you can squirt it under your
tongue as you’re doing a sport. We’re using this on athletes
who recover so much better when they take this form of
electrolyte replacement.
Ben: So just so I know, do you have any financial relationship with
the H20 Minerals Company?
Dr. Carolyn Dean: No.
Ben: Listening to what you’re saying I have a scenario that I’m
thinking about for the endurance athletes that listen in, they
could feasibly… and tell me if I’m wrong here, use something
like a magnesium salt or a transdermal magnesium the day
before the race to prime their body so to speak and then use
a magnesium oil prior to the race and then take these
angstrom minerals in a small bottle as you described and
actually use them during competition to maintain optimum
magnesium levels and this would actually be an ergogenic
aid, so to speak.
Dr. Carolyn Dean: Absolutely. Why I got interested in the Complete H20
Minerals is having traveled to a couple of the Codex meetings
in Europe. Codex is World Health Organization, World Trade
Organization, that’s trying to standardize food and dietary
supplements. And what they seem to be doing is getting us
all to buy drugstore brand synthetic supplements of very low
potency. So I thought boy, I have to find some vitamins and
minerals that are low potency and 100% absorbed so that we
can go under the radar of this limitation on the amount of
vitamins and minerals you can take. Because if you can as a
company only ship a product that has 100 mgs of magnesium
per tablet, if someone needs 1000 mgs of magnesium – the
ones in the drug stores and health food stores – if you need
10 of those a day, then that becomes a real financial burden
etc. etc. So with something like the angstrom minerals, the
dosage is in… the concentrate that I do is 72 mgs. And yet for
me, that is about 700 mgs in the dirt magnesium form.
Ben: Interesting. There are a lot of capsules out on the market.
Salt capsules that actually have magnesium in them and I’m
just wondering, you said that it’s about 75 mgs? That you
were taking in?
Dr. Carolyn Dean: Yes, 72 mgs in one dose and I might do that twice a day. It
gets a little bit complicated. I do go into it in detail in my
book but when you get something like a magnesium citrate,
then it’s not all magnesium. Part of it is citrate, and maybe
only 20, 25% is the magnesium. The rest is the binder. And
then of that amount, once that breaks down in the body,
maybe only 15% is absorbed. You get one of the common
magnesiums which is magnesium oxide – which is the
magnesium that most of the magnesium research is being
done on – and come to find out that magnesium oxide is only
4% absorbed.
Ben: Wow. And so…
Dr. Carolyn Dean: We don’t know Ben if that’s in the cell level or if that’s just in
the blood because they’re usually just doing blood tests.
Ben: So one of the best things for people to do would probably
incorporate some of the magnesium sources that you
recommended and then just tolerate the effect on their body.
Obviously as you said there’s a little bit of a laxative effect
when you take in too much, but if people are figuring that
out prior to actually going out and using it in competition,
then they’ll have that determined.
Dr. Carolyn Dean: Exactly, yes. You don’t want the laxative effect in
competition, no. But that’s where the angstrom magnesium
comes into play definitely and it’s very useful and there are
food sources as well…
Ben: Well that’s what I was going to ask you. I was going to ask
you if somebody wants to go to the grocery store and they
want to stock up on the foods that are actually going to give
them sources of magnesium – I know we talked about the
problem with modern agricultural practices, but what is
going to give people the most bang for their buck?
Dr. Carolyn Dean: Yes, I was going to mention I do a blog and my website
www.drcarolyndean.com and I give recipes and one of the
most favorite recipes is a nut pate. And that consists of
macadamia nuts, lemon juice, garlic and sea salt and you just
mix that up in a high speed blender and nuts and seeds have
the highest amounts of magnesium. Garlic has a fair bit as
well. And you put that on a collar leaf and a few other
vegetables and some avocado and deep green leafy
vegetables are very high in magnesium. And then for desert,
you mix up 100% cacao, coconut milk, and frozen bananas.
Cut up the bananas. Put all three… the cacao, coconut milk
and the bananas in a high speed blender and you’ve got an
incredibly delicious chocolate desert that people mistake for
the real thing.
Ben: Wow that actually sounds pretty good.
Dr. Carolyn Dean: Yes, I’m sorry… and the reason why that’s very beneficial is
we know bananas are high in potassium. They have lots of
magnesium as well but chocolate is one of the highest
magnesium rich foods and when I have clients telling me
that they’re craving chocolate, I say well then really you’re
craving magnesium.
Ben: Interesting. Interesting. So you talked about the
www.nutritionalmagnesium.org. You’ve mentioned that a
couple of times during the interview. What is the Nutritional
Magnesium – well I visited the website and it says the
Nutritional Magnesium Association. What is that?
Dr. Carolyn Dean: It’s an organization that our director Boris Levitsky began.
He’s a long distance bicycle competitor and he came across
magnesium out of the need of his body developing
magnesium deficiency symptoms. So, over time he decided
that he wanted to educate the public more about magnesium
because unfortunately, it’s not in the media. You mentioned
several times how well gosh, no one’s never really heard of
this. It’s not a drug, it can’t be patented. So it doesn’t get a lot
of press. And that’s why I love to do interviews like this. On
my blog, just about every second post is someone asking
about magnesium and I’ve incorporated a lot of that
information into a 48 week health program called Future
Health Now because I want people to get back to the basics.
If someone has all these symptoms that we’re talking about
here with magnesium deficiency – tremor in their hands,
wheezing, feeling that they… in women, the PMS and
cramping during their period. Any sort of muscle cramps.
You have all those symptoms. You go to your doctor and if
you have more than five symptoms they think you’re
depressed and put you on an antidepressant. All these
symptoms. If you go and say all of a sudden, you’re having
anxiety attacks, instead of thinking of a mineral deficiency,
you’ll be put on valium or Xanax or something. So, it’s really
important for people to be educated about the basics. And
unfortunately media is going toward what I call the celebrity
supplements. All you hear now is resviratrol. The nutrient
from grape skins and I’m sure within a year people are going
to be putting out studies saying resviratrol is unsafe and
people are dying from it. Well what can happen is you can
get companies starting to make resviratrol from grapes that
aren’t organic and have a lot of pesticides, concentrate the
pesticides and you’re taking it and you’re going to get sick. So
there’s this incredible commercialization of the natural
products industry that takes us away from the basics and to
me magnesium, because it works with over 325 different
enzyme systems in the body which is the highest of any
mineral, to me magnesium is the basic supplement. If people
can start taking that, then they’ll feel better and want to do
more for their health.
Ben: Wow. Well Dr. Dean, I’m going to put a link in the
Shownotes to your website and also to this
www.nutritionalmagnesium.org where that 2 minute video is
and I think that would be really helpful for especially athletes
to see what’s going on in their hearts. I’ll put a link to the
EXA test that you mentioned, the Complete H20 Minerals
angstrom sized magnesium and all those resources will be
available to the audience but I would say most importantly
and I’ve started to read it, but pick up a copy of The
Magnesium Miracle if you’re listening in today. I’ll put a link
to that in the Shownotes to the podcast. This would be a
book that is worth the read. I only read about one book a
month or so, and this is one that I’m starting into this month
and so far it is a fantastic book, and it’ll really open your eyes.
So Dr. Dean, I’d like to thank you for coming on the show
today.
Dr. Carolyn Dean: You’re welcome Ben. It’s been fun. As I said I enjoy getting
this information out there and athletes really need to think
about taking in more magnesium.
Ben: Hearing this over and over again from top physicians in
America and around the world has convinced me 100% to
include it in my training and my health protocol and I hope
that those of you listening in are convinced in the same way
to take care of your body. So, Dr. Carolyn Dean. Thank you
for coming on the show. We appreciate having you. Thank
you for your time and have a wonderful week.
Dr. Carolyn Dean: Thank you Ben.
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