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Jubilant FoodWorks Limited
Q4&FY2011Investors/AnalystsConferenceCallMay13,2011
UrvashiButani:Thankyou.Goodevening ladiesandgentlemanwelcome to JubilantFoodWorks conference call for investors and analyst. The call has been hosted to
discussthefinancialperformanceandshareoperatinghighlightsforthequarterended
in31March2011.IhavewithmeonthiscalltodayMr.HariBhartiaCoChairmanof
JubilantFoodWorks,Mr.AjayKaulCEOandMr.RaviGuptaCFO.Wewillcommence
thiscallwithcommentsfromMr.HariBhartiaandMr.AjayKaulfollowedbyMr.Ravi
GuptaandaftertheopeningremarksweshallopenthefloorforaQ&Asessionwhere
themanagementwillbeverygladtorespondtoanyqueriesyoumayhave.
At this point I would like to mention the certain statements made or discussed in
todays conference callmaybe forward looking innatureand theactual resultsmay
varysignificantlyfromthesestatementsmade.Thecompanydoesnotoffertoupdate
thempublicallytoreflectchangesinperformanceandadetailstatementtothiseffect
isavailableinthereleasesentouttoyouearlierandonthecompanyswebsite.Iwould
now like to invite Mr. Hari Bhartia to commence by sharing his views on JubilantFoodWorksperformanceforQ4&FY11.Overtoyousir.
HariBhartia:Goodafternoontoallofyou.Andthankyouforbeingonthiscall.Weareverypleasedtoreporthealthyprofitsforthequarterofthisfiscalbasedonour,very
solid financial and operating performance. We continue to witness a very healthy
trajectoryinourgrowthonthebackof,Iwouldsay,averyrobustbusinessstrategyand
averystrongbusinessmodelthatwehavecontinuouslynurturedanddevelopedover
the lastmany years. And as all of youmay be aware this quarter has been rather
special for Jubilant FoodWorks as we expanded our business with the addition of
Dunkin'Donutswhich is reallyaworldrenowned coffeeandbakedgoodschainand
alsooneofthefastestgrowingchainsacrosstheglobe.Asweenternewfiscalweare
quite optimistic about our plans for Dunkin' Donuts and the growth potential for
Domino'sPizza.Wewilldoourbest to further capitalizeonour strengthsand Iam
confident that Jubilant FoodWorkswill enjoy continued growth in the financial year
2012.MycolleaguesAjay, theCEOof JubilantFoodWorksandRavitheCFOwillnow
provideyouwithmoredetailedviewonourresultsandaperspectiveonourstoryand
otherkeydevelopmentssofar.Thankyouagain.
AjayKaul:ThankyouHari.Averygoodeveningandwarmwelcometoallpresentherewith us. Jubilant FoodWorks witnessed another strong quarter and a solid and
successful fiscal, not only from a profitability standpoint but also in terms strategic
developmentand that isDunkin'Donuts.As reported inyesterdays financial results
pressrelease,ourTotalIncomeforthequarterwitnessedarobustgrowthof56%over
lastyear to standatRs.1,937million.OurNetProfit for thequarterwasatRs.193
B - 214, Phase II, District Gautam Budh Nagar, Noida - 201 305, Uttar Pradesh, India
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millionup86%ascomparedtothesameperiodlastyear.InFY2011JFLsTotalIncome
stoodatRs.6,783millionupby60%overFY2010.ThecorrespondingNetProfitstood
atRs.720millionupby118%overlastyear.
JubilantFoodWorksseesitselfasaninnovatorandatthesametimehastheabilityto
focusonitsconsumerstodevelopleadershippositioninthefoodserviceindustry.We
havesuccessfullybeenabletoexpandournetworkofDomino'sPizzastoresacrossthe
nation.AtthestartofFY2011wehadsetatargetofopening70storesspreadacross
existing and new cities and I am pleased to announce that our coverage has
successfully evolvedaswe launched 72new storesduring the year.Todaywehave
storestotalat378spreadacross90citiesinIndia.Moreoverweareontrackwithour
plans to enter Sri Lanka through our subsidiary Jubilant FoodWorks, Lanka Private
LimitedandaresettolaunchDominosPizzatherenextmonth.
Webelievewehavebuiltourcompetitivestrengthsandcontinuetodosobackedby
ourfocusonkeybusinessphilosophiesthathavebeenpartofJFLsinceinception.Webelievewe are able to create valuewith our commitment towards costumer needs
innovation andquality andhopewe are able to generateeven greater value in the
future.
Weare trulyexcitedabout theprospectsand thepotentialofourgrowthespecially
withournewventurewhichisourassociationwiththeworldleadingbakedgoodsand
coffeechain Dunkin'Donuts.Asmanyofyoumaybeawareandpresentwithuswhen
wediscussour ideologiesandstrategyaroundDunkin'Donuts in theQ4.Webelieve
Dunkin'DonutsrelationshipisaperfectmatchwithJFLswayofbusiness.WithDunkin'
Donuts
added
to
our
portfolio
we
wish
to
cater
to
the
all
day
part
food
segment
which
webelieveislargelyuntappedandhastremendouspotentialtogrow.AlsotheDunkin'
DonutsbrandisextremelyrelevantforIndianotonlyduetoitsstrengthsindonutsand
coffeebutalsoduetoitsdifferentiatedfoodandbeveragemenu.
Atpresentwehaveinitiatedourworkonseveralareaswhichwouldformthebackbone
ofthisnewventure,beforewebegintherolloutofactualstores.An importantpoint
thatwouldliketoemphasizehereisthatthenatureofDunkin'Donutsmodelenables
us to localize our offerings and recipes and present to our customers a range of
offeringswhichwouldcaterandsatisfy to theirneeds,whichweat JFLbelieve isan
extremelypositiveandcrucialfactorforcreatingasuccessfulfoodandbeveragebrand.
Moreover,givenDunkinDonutsexpertise inseveral internationalmarketscombined
withJubilantFoodWorksstatureinindustryinIndia,weareconfidentofcreatingnew
successeswithDunkin'DonutsinIndia.
Moreover, we have a highly committed and strong team to drive Dunkin' Donuts
operations.Mr.DevAmritesh,whoasSeniorVicePresidentMarketing forDomino's
PizzahasbeenveryinstrumentalandfundamentaltobuildthebrandDominosPizzaat
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JubilantFoodWorks.Hewillnow lendhisstrategic leadershipvisionandexpertise to
drivetheoperationsforDunkinDonutsasthePresidentandCOOofDunkinDonuts.
Going forward, the food industry in India continues to present great opportunities
especiallyintheQSRspace.AllinallwefeelJFLhasthecapabilities,theknowhowandhealthyfinancialstrengthtotapthisgrowingpotential.
For the year ahead of us our goals as an organization are clear, we would like to
continue to grow our network of Dominos Pizza continue to aggregate revenue
growth and expand our scale, productivity and enhance our brand equity. Our
expansionplansfortheyearaheadarebasedonthefeedbackwehavereceivedsofar
andthusplantoopen80newstoresinFY2012.Alsoweareconfidentofourplansofa
phased rollout of Dunkin Donuts stores. Thus our initial focuswill be primarily on
metrocitiesandweplantorolloutabout80to100storesofDunkinsDonutsinaspan
ofnextfiveyears.
Thatbringsmetotheendofmyremarks;IwouldnowliketohandovertoRaviGupta
ourCFOwhowilltakeyouthroughourfinancialperformance.
RaviGupta:ThankyouAjay.Goodeveningandwarmwelcometoallofyouagain.Iampleased to report that thecontinuous focusofour teamonprofitable revenue, cost
controlinitiativesandcustomersatisfactionhasresultedinanothersolidperformance
forJubilantFoodWorks.IshallbrieflyprovideyouwithanoverviewofourCompanys
performanceforthequarterandthefullyearended31March,2011.
OurTotalIncomeforQ4FY11wasatRs.1,937millionwitharobustgrowthof56%over
thefourthquarterlastyear.Thisquartergrowthwaslargelyduetotheincreaseinour
network&and same share sales growth. Wealsowitnessed increase innumberof
ordersreceivedonaccountoftheCricketWorldCup.Oursamestoresalesgrowthfor
Q4FY11wasat33.2%ascomparedto38.1%forQ4FY10.
MovingaheadwithrespecttoprofitabilityduringthequarterourEBIDTAwasreported
atRs.331millioncomparedtoRs.185million inthesameperiodlastyear.Whileour
EBIDTAmarginswereat17.1%ascomparedto14.9% inQ4FY10.Finallyweachieved
robustbottomlineprofitabilityduringthequarterwithanincreaseof86%inPATtoRs.
193millionascomparedtoRs.104millioninQ4FY10.
This fiscal by virtue of systematic planningwe have opened 72 stores and enteredseveralnewcitieswhichincludeTierIIandTierIIIcitiestoo.Andwearepleasedwith
thepositiveresponsewehavereceivedonsuchopenings.Thusbackedbythefeedback
we will also continue to relentlessly drive our capabilities to further expand our
networkandstrengthenourbusinessmodel.
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Whiletheindustryiswitnessinghealthygrowth,thesharpincreaseininflationinIndia
hasbeenaparticularconcerntousasaplayerinthefoodindustry.However,givenour
scale and infrastructure suchasour strong supply chain, focusedmanagementand
practicesrelatedtocostcontrolatallorganizationslevelwehavebeenabletoleverage
these
not
only
to
our
benefit
but
also
to
the
benefit
of
our
customers.
Thus
as
we
continue to grow, we are also continuing to focus on cost containment and again
achievefavorableyearonyearresultsinoperatingexpenses.
MovingaheadwehadnointerestchargeonourbookthisquarterascomparedtoRs.
11.81milliononQ4FY10duetorepaymentofalltermloans.
Nowtogiveyousomecolouronour fullyearresults. JFLsTotal IncomestoodatRs.
6,783millionregisteringagrowthof60%ascomparedtoFY10.OurEBIDTAforFY11
was at Rs. 1,202 million compared with Rs. 656 million in the previous fiscal. The
EBIDTAmarginsstoodat17.7%ascomparedto15.5%inFY10.
Lastly JFLsPAT for the fiscalwasRs. 720millionwitnessing a growth of 118.4% as
compared toPATofRs.330million inFY10.ThecorrespondingPATmarginswereat
10.6%and7.8%respectively.
During the year, besides new store openings we maintained our commitment to
innovationandasaresultsawthe introductionofnewadditiontoourmenusuchas
Pasta ItalianoandMexicanWrapalongwiththenewPizzavariant,DoubleBurstPizza
whichwe launched intheQ3.Also thesehaveandcontinuedto receivetremendous
positiveresponsefromourcustomers.
Andasmanyofyoumaybeawarefromourrecentannouncement,wehaveexpanded
our brand portfoliowith our alliancewith DunkinDonuts, there by driving greater
valuefortheCompanyandourstakeholders.DunkinsDonuts,inmorethanoneway,isanidealmatchforJFLanditsgrowthstory.Wetrulybelievethatwiththisassociation
we have begun another exciting story in the Indian QSR space. Exciting for many
reasons, firstly we believe that with the uptrend in the food business, it was an
opportune time for us to formalize our association to introduceDunkinsDonuts in
Indiaandprovide the Indian customerswithanew rangeofproducts.Wehave the
flexibilityinthismodeltofinetune,asAjayhasmentioned,tolocalizeourofferingsto
alignthemtotasteandpreferencesoftheIndianpalate. Furthermorewebelievethat
wewillbeabletobenefitfromseveralsynergies.Wehavefromourjourneythusfar,
gatheredtheexpertiseandtheabilitytomonitorandfeelthepulseoftheconsumer
thusgivingasauniqueedge.BesideswehaveanimmenselytalentedhumanresourcebaseofwhichadedicatedteamundertheleadershipofDevhasbegunworktowardsmakingDunkinDonutsasuccess.
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Movingon,wewould like to sincerely thankour investorsand stakeholders for the
continuous faith placed in JFL. We are confident of sustaining a good growth
momentum in the years ahead givenour increasingly differentiated profilewhich is
enhancedbyourassociationwithleadingfoodbrands.WiththisIconcludemyremarks
and
I
would
request
operators
to
open
it
for
question
and
answers.
Ajay
and
I
will
be
morethanhappytoanswerallthequestions.Thankyou.
Moderator: Thank you verymuch sir.Our first question is from the line of PriteshCheddafromEmkayGlobal.Pleasegoahead.
PriteshChedda:CouldyoutellusifthereisanyfurtherscopeforoperatingleverageintheDominosbusinessmodelandifyesthencouldyouidentifytheareasfromwhere
theleveragecancomeinthebusinessafterreachingthisscale?
AjayKaul:Okay.Ifyoulookatlastthreeyears,wehaveimprovedourmarginsfrom12.1%to15.5%yearbeforelastto17.7%lastyear.Idoagreethattowardstheendoflast
yearbyvirtueofabitofpressurefromrawmaterials,especiallymilkandcheeseanda
bitbecauseofourinvestmentonourpeople,lastquartermarginprobablywasnotas
goodas itshouldhavebeenbutstill17.7% isagood improvementovertheprevious
yearwhichis15.5%.Nowgoingforward ifyouhavetomakesomesortofaguidance
for next year, we believe we should be able to at least retain the same margin
percentage even next year.Now answering your question that is there a room for
improvement,yesofcourserelatedtoscaleandwhileweplantoadd80newstores
nextyear,wewillalsohavegrowthcomingfromsamestores.Asthequarterswillpass
wewillbeinabetterpositiontomakeacomment,butwebelieveretainingthismargin
is
definitely
what
we
will
do.
Is
there
scope
indeed
as
far
fixed
cost
or
I
would
call
them
partlyvariablecost likemarketingwhichwillprobablynotgrowat the samepaceas
ourbusiness.OurG&Ashouldnotgrowatthesamepaceasourbusinesswill.There
willbescopeforimprovingmarginthere.
PriteshChedda: In the totalstorenetworkof378thatyouhave today,howmuch isDelhiandhowmuch isMumbaiandwhatisthemaximumpotentialofstoressayina
city likeDelhiandMumbaiandtenyearsdownthe linehowmanysuchcitiesdoyou
see?
AjayKaul:WedonothaveexactnumbersPritesh,inallfairness,atthefingertipsrightnow, but let me give you these numbers in a slightly different way, in a different
format. The top three cities between Delhi, Mumbai and Bangalore contribute to
around should I say40% 45%ofourbusiness.And it isquite surprising the rateat
whichthefrequencyofconsumptionisincreasingincitieswherewehavebeenpresent
for amuch longer duration,how the consumerhabits are changingwith regards to
frequencyandpenetration.Soasaresultwebelievethere isasmuchopportunity in
DelhiandaMumbaiandBangaloreandthefewotherbiggercities,toopenmoreand
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more stores because the frequency of consumption is increasing at such apace, as
muchasthereisin letssaytheLucknowsandAhmedabadsandtheKanpursasthere
is innewcitieswherewearenotpresentatall.And Iam lookingatthenexttwoto
threeyearswindowhere,actuallyPriteshinallfairnesswewillnotbeabletolookthat
far
and
tell
you
that
how
many
stores
will
be
in
Delhi
ten
years
from
now.
PriteshChedda:Andwhen you said 45%, is it 45% of the store network or 45% ofrevenues?
RaviGupta:Itisbasedonofrevenue;anditkeepsonhoveringbetween40to45%PriteshChedda:Percentofrevenue.RaviGupta:Yes.JustaddontowhatAjayhasindicated.Aboutfiveyearsbackwewereabout50 stores in the top threecities.Andasofnow thereareabout130 stores in
thosetop3cities.
PriteshChedda:Soabout50storesroughlyacity.RaviGupta:50stores,aroundthreecities5yearsback.AjayKaul:Around50storesinDelhi.PriteshChedda:Okay.AjayKaul:Around50 inMumbaiandaround40 inBangalore isanumberasofnow,numberofstores.
PriteshChedda:Okay.Can youhazarda guesshowmany sub citiesdo you see tenyearsdownthelineorisitnotpossible?
AjayKaul:Icant,wecanttalk intermsofnumberofcitiesbutintermsofstoresifIhave thepredict, lets say tenyears fromnow, theywillbewell inexcessofmaybe
1200,1300,1400stores.
PriteshChedda:OnDominosnetwork.AjayKaul:WeareonlytalkingaboutDominosPizzahere.PriteshChedda:Okay.Andwhenyougavethese80newstoreadditionsforFY12thatisDominosaloneright?
RaviGupta:Yes,thatisDominosPizzaalone.
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PriteshChedda:Okay.MynextquestionisinyourrevenuesayforFY11,isitpossibletoknowwhat is the new product SKUs contribution that is Pasta,wraps, dessert put
togetherasapercentageofrevenue?
AjayKaul:Wewouldnotwant to share that information,allwe can say is that thecontributionofPizzasnodoubthasgoneafewpercentagepointslower.
RaviGupta:Butitcontinuestobearound80%level.PriteshChedda:Okay.Now that includes,80% ispurePizzaand20%would includebeveragesandeverything.
Ajay Kaul: Yes, everything else. But let mejust add to this step as a part of ourconcertedstrategyclearlyexpansionintermsofshareofstomachissomethingwhich
weareconsciously lookingatandthesearealso learningscoming from international
markets,whereproductswhichcanexpandtheshareofstomachareonlyhelpingusto
growtheticketsizealso,while it isalsosome impactontheorder.Products likethe
ChocoLavaCakewhichcameinasadessert,thePastawhichclearlywasanadditionto
thePizzathecategoryandWrapsandsoon,haveallhelpedinthisarea.Sothe37%
38%samestoregrowthwhichwehaveachievedthisyearand22%lastyear,wewould
attachsomeweightageclearlytotheadditionofthesenewproducts.
PriteshChedda:Okay.AjayKaul:Andprogressivelygoingforwardwewouldbe lookingatsuchproducts.AsmuchaswewillfocusonPizza.
PriteshChedda:Okay.Nowwhatisthehighestrevenuethatyouhavegeneratedoutofastoreandwhatisthatnumber,doesitmeanthateventuallyoneofyournewstores
wouldgotowardsthathigherstorerevenue?
RaviGupta:Pritesh,toansweryourfirstquestion.Ouraveragestoresales,whenyoulookatsalesofRs678crorethatwehavedoneanddividethisby342i.e.anaverageof
thenumberofstores whichissmallaveragestoreatbeginningofyearandtheendof
theyear,youwillcomeoutofafigureof1crore98lakhsalesonanaveragebasiswhat
wehavedoneduringthelastyear.
PriteshChedda:Yes.RaviGupta:Butsomeofthestoreshavehadsaleswhichisabout2to2.5timesmorethanthis.So,doesitansweryourquestion?
PriteshChedda:Yes,sowhenIusethesamestoresalesgrowth,oneofthenewstoreswouldeventuallyonthegrowthbasisshouldgoatthatnumber,asitwhenitmatures?
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RaviGupta:Yes,atsomepointintimeitmaygoandwearenotsayingthatthestorewhich isatthe2to2.5timesthe levelofthenationalaveragehasstoppedgrowing,
thatstoremayalsogrow.
PriteshChedda:Okay.LastlyDunkinDonuts,whenisthefirststoregoingtoopenandhowmanystoresareyounowplanninginthefirstyearofoperation?
AjayKaul:Thisisseenasthefirstyearofoperation.WeplantoopenourfirststoreinCalendar2012.
PriteshChedda:Thatisnextcalendaryear.AjayKaul:NextcalendaryearbutQ4ofthisfinancialyear.PriteshChedda:Okay.SoQ4FY12iswhenyouwillopenyourfirststore?AjayKaul:Yes,whilewearetryingtoacceleratethewholethingbutsincewearestillatastagewhereoursupplychainstrategy,ingredientsstrategy,menumixapartfrom
the holistic marketing and overall strategy is being finalized, we are trying to
accelerate,butrealisticallyspeakingQ1 Calendar2012isagoodtimeframetolookat.
PriteshChedda: Andinthefirstyearofoperationsnumberofstoresinoperationanyidea?
AjayKaul: Iprobablywouldnotputanumber to thatbut itwillbea smallnumberbecauseweclearlybelieveinopeningahandfulofstorestheregettinglotoflearnings
fromthatstoresasmuchaswehavedoneinDominosandwefirmlybelieveingetting
thebasicsright,gettingthe initialentrystrategyrightandthenacceleratethereafter,
wedobelievebythefifthyearweshouldbesittingat100storesandasyouhavesaid
in the past also that in 15 years timewe believewe shouldbehaving at least 500
DunkinDonutsstoresinIndia.
PriteshChedda:Okay.SoasastrategywillyoufirststabilizeDunkinDonutsmodelandthen look for a new franchise or you are open to a new franchise before Dunkin
Donutsstabilizes.
AjayKaul: Iwould saywewouldwant tostabilizeDunkinDonutsbecause thathasbeenthegroupsphilosophyallthrough,thatdontbeinahurry,attheendofthedaywehavetobringvaluetoourshareholdersandourinvestorsasmuchaswedidthatin
DominosPizza.Peoplewereknockingatourdoorforalongtimebutwetookourtime
to finalizeDunkinsDonuts.Sowewoulddo thatalthoughweare indiscussionwith
otherpeoplealsobutIthinkatleast12to18monthsfromnowiswhenwewouldthe
evaluating or probably contemplate something, till that point we will be totally
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preoccupiedbyestablishingDunkinsDonutsandofcoursetakingDominostothenext
level.
Pritesh Chedda: What are the rent inflation and the employee inflation that theDominosmodelisseeninFY11?
RaviGupta:Ithinkitisverydifficulttocomputerentinflationbecauseitisamixtureofhow much space you are hiring, which area and the city you are hiring in. So to
computetheexactrentinflationbecomesaverydifficulttask.Buthavingsaidthat,in
ouragreementweprovideforinflationwhichisabout15%every3years.Sothatisthe
inflationwhichisinbuiltintheagreementitself.
PriteshChedda:Andemployeeinflation?RaviGupta:Asfarastheemployee isconcernedweareofferingthemslightlybetterthaninflationsothattheycanbeatinflation.Itis ultimatelyouremployeeswhohelp
usdeliverthewholeofourgrowth.Andweneedtomaintainthissenseamongstour
employeeswholeadthisacceleratedgrowth.Asaresult,itisimportantthatwekeep
themtogetherandwekeepthemmotivated.
AjayKaul:Youmustbealreadyaware,that inSeptember lastyearwehad increasedthesalariesofourteammemberswhoworkinthestore,bysignificantnumber.There
are of course, minimum wages pressures which are coming from all the state
government and so on but we want to stay ahead of that curve and we had also
introducedthe incentiveplansforourmanagerswhowork insidethestore.Allthese
are efforts being done to stay ahead of the curve, to ensure that regular inflow of
employeesisthere,benchstrengtharebeencreated,inthequesttoopen 72lastyear
and 80 stores next year. Because, as you are aware we are the fastest growing
multinationalfoodserviceschaininIndia,wearealsothelargestbyyardsasMNCQSR
chain,sothesearethestepswehavetotake.
PriteshChedda:WhatisthecountinFY10andFY11,theemployeecount?RaviGupta:FY10itwasabout8,500employeesandFY11itisabout11,500employees.PriteshChedda:ThisdoesntincludethetemporaryemployeeswhichyouhaveinthemonthofDecember?
RaviGupta:Thisisactuallyatthepointoftime asofMarch31.Pritesh Chedda: Okay. And how much does the temporary addition happens inDecember?
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AjayKaul:Imean,weaddprobablyaround1000extrapeopleIamhazardinga guessbutdontholdmeon that.Wedohirearounda thousandoddpeoplewho thenby
January,Februaryagainkindofmoveout, so itcomesdownback to the reasonable
level.
PriteshChedda:Okay.AndmylastandfinalquestionforMr.Bhartia,haveyouframethedividendpolicynowsinceitsfirstfullyearofoperationsbeingalistedentity?
HariBhartia:On the dividend side this year theBoardhasdecidednot to give anydividendmainlyforthereasonthatwecontinuetoseehugegrowth intheDominos
Pizzabusinesswhichweare investinga lotofresourcesboth in Indiaandthen inthe
newmarkets likeSriLankaandthenofcoursetheamountof investmentrequired in
DunkinDonutsthisyearisverysmall.SoIthinknowBoardwillreviewthisyearasto
howdoweseegrowthinthenextthreetofouryearsandthenwewillcomebackwith
a dividend policy. So I think this year we decided not to give a dividend because
resourcesstillneedtobeutilizedforgrowth, Ithinktheopportunitiesforgrowthare
immense.SoIthinkweneedtoseewatchthemarket whichweseeisgrowingquite
fast, seewhen India isgrowing, themarket isgrowingandhasAjaypointedoutwe
continuously see the frequency being increased in the cities and that creates a
completelynewmarket,even intheexistingcitieswherewearepresent.So,a lotof
capitalisstillrequiredforinvestinginnewstores.
PriteshChedda:Okay.HariBhartia:Wewillcomebackwiththedividendpolicydefinitelynextyearintermsofhowweexpecttodistribute.
PriteshChedda:Thankyouverymuch.Moderator: The next question is from the line of Jaibir Sethi from CLSA. Please goahead.
JaibirSethi:Thesamestoresalesthisquarterhasbeenexceptionallystrongdespitethetoughdaysfromfourthquarteroflastyear,Ijustwantedtogetasenseofone,whatdrovethisandsecondwhatwouldbeareasonablesortofgrowthratetolookforgoing
forward?
AjayKaul:Okay,areasonablenumbertolookforwardtointhisyearsomethingwhichwebelievewewillbeabletodeliverisaround19 20%asasamestoregrowthnumber.
Yourobservationwas very right that comingoutofquarter fourof yearbefore last
wherewehadforthefirsttimeachievedthis35 40%samestoregrowthnumber.Our
33%samestoresalesgrowthnumberforQ4FY2011wasagoodachievement, Ithink
WorldCuppresencedidhelp there,so thatwasoneadditional incrementalbusiness
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thatwegot.Overandabove,IthinkourproductwhichwehadlaunchedinDecember
andthatcontinuedforthewholeofthatquarterwhichwastheDoubleBurstPizzaalso
helpedandevenotherproductswhichwehadlaunchedfromtimetotimebeforethat
haveledtotheincreaseinshareofstomach,theyhavealsocontributedalittlebit.One
more
thing
which
probably
I
want
to
highlight
in
the
end
is
that
our
online
ordering
whichwehavebeentryingtobuildabackboneforoverthe lastyear,yearandahalf
clearly in the months of January, February and March has started showing better
resultsand inthisparticularquarter,asapercentageofdeliverysales, itwasagood
numberandweareobviouslybettingalotonthatasfarasfutureisconcerned.Iwould
attributetothesenumbers.
JaibirSethi:CouldyougiveusasenseofhowmuchofthismighthavebeentheWorldCupbecause,nonWorldCupversusWorldCupperiodsduringthequarter?
AjayKaul: Itsa toughone todo.Wehave tried todo thisanalysisout there, itsasingle digit, small single digit number but the nonetheless it is there and one cant
disregardit.
JaibirSethi:Andthe19%20%numberwhichyoumentionedforFY12,whatfactorsdoyouseedrivingthat?
AjayKaul: Ithink itsamixofallthesefactorswhich Ihadjustsaidthatwehaveanengine, a model which is kind of working well, supporting that will be our media
strategy weareincreasingourmarketingspends.Weareincreasingthespendwhich
we are going to do on onlinemedia;we have a single numberwhichwewill start
popularizingvery,verystrongly.Wehavebeenalreadydoingthatbutthisyearwillbe
very,verystrongonthatandoverandabovetheproduct launcheswillcontinuethe
shareofstomachstorywhichIwastalkingabout,willcontinue.Soasamixofallthis,
we believe that a 20% same store growth number is clearly that we can commit
ourselvestoo.
RaviGupta:Ithinkoverallgrowthandsaliencywhichwehaveseenandthegrowthinthe Indian industrywhichwe are foreseeing, that gives us confidence thatwe can
achievethisgrowthof20%.
JaibirSethi:Okay.Andthesecondthingwasaroundthemarginside,Iunderstandthatyou have taken a bit of a price hike effective April, however, there are still fairly
palpablepressuresboth intermsof inputcostaswellaswages.Sodoyouthink the
growthat itsstore level intermsofsamestorerevenueandsamestorecostswillbe
broadlyinlineordoyouthinkyouwillperhapssomepressurecominginonstorelevel
margins.
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Ajay Kaul: Seewe believe, the pressure as far asmanpower is concerned, ismoreinternal,itisourownbecausewearegrowingatacertainpaceandweneedinflowof
peopleatapaceatwhichwewant.Butwehavealsoseenthatwhenwetakestepslike
these immediately after in a succeeding quarters, we are able to bring in lot of
manpower
efficiencies
because
training
costs
go
down,
bench
strength
are
created
so
asaresult,eventherecruitmentcostgodownandsoon.Asfarasrawmaterialcostis
concerneditsobviouslyexternaldrivenbuthavingsaidthatIwanttojustmentionone
thing in the same breath thatwhen you are growing, for example at around 60%,
whichisourtotalgrowthforlastyearandanyearbeforelastitwas50%,plus,weare
able to work very closely with our business partners who maybe otherwise have
inflationarypressuresbutwhentheyarealsogrowingontheirDominospieceby50
60%,theyareable todriveeconomiesofscale, theyareable tobring inor invest in
plantandmachinerywell in timebecause theyknowourplansand theycanalmost
bankonDominosasapartner.Soasa result these inflationarypressuresonusare
neverassevereastheymaybeforsocalledoutsideworld,buthavingsaidthattowards
theend,lastthreefourmonthsoflastyeartheydidgothroughanunprecedentedkind
ofaphase,milkpricesdidgothroughtheroof.Butwebelieveitissomethingwhichwe
willhavetoworkcloselywithourbusinesspartners,andnominalprice increasesare
somethingwhichwehavetotakegoingforwardinanycase,whichwehavebeendoing
inthelastthree,fouryearsalso.
JaibirSethi:Okay,soyouarenotparticularlyconcernedaboutyourabilitytoabsorbthesecostpressures.
AjayKaul:Iwouldsaytheinflationarypressureshavebeenthereeveninthelasttwoyears,
a
bit
more
in
the
last
few
months.
But
we
try
to
work
closely,
absorb
as
much
as
possibleandthenpassonanominalincreasetoourconsumers.
JaibirSethi:Right.Thanksalotforthatsir.Moderator: Thank you. The next question is from the line of Manav Vijay fromEdelweiss.Pleasegoahead.
ManavVijay:Couldtellmewhenthelastpricehikewastaken?RaviGupta: Inthe lastfinancialyear itwas inNovemberand inthisfinancialyearwehavejusttakeninApril,normallyeveryyearthesearethetwoperiodswherewetake
thepricinghike.
ManavVijay:Okay.SoAprilandNovember.RaviGupta:Yes.
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ManavVijay:Okay.Now, inspiteoftaking Iwouldsayapriceriseourgrossmarginshavebasically theyhavecomeoff Iwould sayquarteronquarteraswell.Nowdoes
thatmean that the entire benefit that company is trying to get either lets say by
increasingthepricesfirstly,secondlytheoperatingleewaythatyouhaveinyourmodel
in
terms
of
rent
and
other
expenses
is
getting
negated
by
obviously
the
extended
inflationandtheinternalstaffcost?
RaviGupta:Manav,Ithinkwehavediscussedinthelastconcallalso.Whenwedecideaboutprice increase inNovember typically thisdecision is taken twomonthsbefore
thatperiod. Andthat isbasedonwhat istheinflation levelatthatpointoftimeand
whatistheexpectedlevelofinflation.Nowittakesforusacoupleofmonthsormaybe
one or two quarters for us to exactly pass on thewhole impact of inflation to the
consumers. Sowhenwe took the lastprice increaseat thatpointof timewhatever
inflationwasexpectedwehavetakenadecisiontoincreasetheprices.Butlastcouple
ofmonthsasAjayhasindicatedtheinflationhasbeenunexpected,themilkpriceshave
gonethroughtheroof. Soittakessometimeforustopassonandwealsodecidethat
wewillnotpassonallthe increasetotheconsumerdemandbecauseconsumermay
feeljitterytryingtounderstandwhypizzashavebecomeexpensive.Sowewanttopass
onalltheprice increaseslowlytotheconsumersand inthemeantimeabsorbthese
increasessothatconsumerunderstandstheseincreasesandacceptsalltheseincreases
andthatisthereasonlasttwoquartersyoufindthatrawmaterialcosthasgoneupa
littlebitandyouwillseethatgoingforwarditwillcomeundercontrol.
ManavVijay:Okay.Now,Imean,duringtheyearwehavegeneratedclosetoRs.40 50crorefreecashflowandconsideringtheplansthatwehavejustforDominoskeepingI
would
say
DD
apart
as
of
now,
this
is
more
than
sufficient
to
cover
the
entire
CapEx
that we will have in FY12 to a very great extent. So any specific reason of not
distributinganydividend?
RaviGupta:SeeoverallCapExforthe lastfinancialyearwasaboutRs.70croresnowthat is for opening about 70 stores and also on three other areas which is a
replacementoftheequipment intheexistingstores,someadditionalnewequipment
becauseofthegrowthof37% inthesamestoregrowthwhichhashappenedandall
theadditionalequipmentyouneedatthecommissarylevelandallother levelsinthe
Company. Sogoingourplansarethatwewillopenabout80stores.Secondaspectis
costofopeningstoresisalsoisgoingupbecauseofinflationandalsobecauseweare
upgradingqualityofthestores interms,forexamplewillhavedigitalmenuinallthestoresandwehavequitealotofotherimprovementplansinthestoresandwehave
seen that ifwespend thatkindofmoney, thepayback ispretty faston those. And
thenweperiodically reimage the stores, relocate the stores. So all theseplans are
thereandareprettyaggressive. On topof itweplan to relocate twocommissaries
whichisEastandWestcommissaries. Andwealsoplantoopenonenewcommissary
inNorthIndiawhichwillbesomewherearoundChandigarh. Soallthisplansarethere
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withus. Apartfromthat,wewillinvestinabout45storeswhichwillcomeinSriLanka
andlastlyplanforDunkinDonuts.SoallthisplansarethereandweareontrackAnd
are fairly confident of achieving them and thats the reason the Board has decided
sayingthatmoneyisneededforexecutioninternally.
ManavVijay:AnyspecificreasonofrelocatingEastandWestcommissary?RaviGupta:Theseareabout1011yearsoldcommissaries. Theyhave livedtheir lifeandwehaveoutgrownintermsofnumbers likethiscommissarywasestablishedfor
about30to40storesandithasStretchedcapacitytogoupto100stores. Rightnowit
ismanagingabout120 stores there. Sobeyonda stageyouneed toupgrade them,
needtoincreasethecapacity. Sonowwhenweestablish,wewillestablishforabout
200250storesthere. Soboththereasonsarevalidthatitsliveditslifeandthenwe
havetoexpanditatsomepointoftime.
ManavVijay:SowhatkindofCapExatthererelocationofEastandWestwillrequireinFY12?
RaviGupta:Commissariestypicallycostdependingonsize,anywherebetweenaboutRs.5croretoRs.10crore.Rs.5croreforabout50to75storescommissaryandabout
Rs.10crorefor250storescommissaries. Sothosearekindofexpensewewillincur.
Manav Vijay: And the upcoming commissary in Chandigarh is because the currentcommissaryinNorthhasnotbeenabletoormaybeisalreadystretchingitslimit?
RaviGupta:Notexactlythatisthereason. Webelievethereisaquitealotofpotentialin the northern part of the country specifically because right now all the
transportation happens from Noida and we believe that we can reduce the
transportation cost forup country storesand improves theproductqualityalsoand
unfoldthepotentialwhichisthere innorth. Sothatwhenthecommissary isnearby
thelogisticcostsforsupplytonewstoresandlookingatthenewstoreprofitabilityalso
comesupprettywell.
ManavVijay: OkaysoweshouldhaveanotherRs.5croretoR.10croreofexpenditureinthiscommissaryaswell.
RaviGupta:Yes.ManavVijay:Great,thankyouModerator:Thankyou. Ournextquestion is fromthe lineofAmnishAggarwal fromMotilalOswalSecuritiesLtd. Pleasegoahead.
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AmnishAggarwal:My firstquestion is regarding the loansandadvanceswhichhaverisen at a very sharppaceduring the yearbecause ifwe look at thebalance sheet
whichwehavebeengiven,theloansandadvanceshaveincreasedfromRs.36croreto
nearlyRs.70crore.Sowouldyou like toguideusonwhathas led tothiskindofan
increase
in
the
loans.
RaviGupta:Amnish,wehadaboutRs.51croreofcashlyinginourhandaboutRs.21croreyouwillfindunder investment,which isa liquid fundkindof investmentwhich
arethereandRs30croreisanICDgiventoacorporateofreputewhichisunderloans
andadvances.Thatwillexplainthecompletedifference.
AmnishAggarwal:OkaysoisthatinterestrateonICDslinktothemarketrates?RaviGupta:Itisatmarketratebutnotlinked.AmnishAggarwal:Okay. AndthesecondquestionisthatwhatsortofCapExweplantohavefortheDunkinDonutsprojectinthecurrentyearthatisFY12.
RaviGupta: Ithinkweare inthemidstformakingplansforDunkinDonuts. Wewillnotbeabletoexactlysharethenumberfor it,butwhenwe lookat incomparisonto
theDominos,thiswillnotbeverysubstantial,maybeabout5%ofwhatwespenton
Dominosthisyear.
AmnishAggarwal:Okay. Andifyoulookatthepriceincreaseswhichyouhavetakenrecently,myguess is that in thepast, say sixmonthsor sowehave increasedpizza
prices by an average of say 7% to 15% depending upon the various sizes. And
practicallyintheentiremenu,PizzaManiaistheonlyproductforwhichthepriceshave
notgoneup. Soareyouwitnessinganychangeinthesalesmixhappeningduetothis
anddoyouenvisageanyimpactonthesalesbecauseusuallyourpriceincreaseearlier
usedtobesayaroundcoupleofpercentagepointstwiceayear. ButthisyearifIlook
atthepast12to13monthsthepriceincreasewouldberangingbetweensayminimum
of10%totheupwardofsay20%. Socanyouthrowsomelightonthis?
Ajay Kaul: Yes sure, we normally take two price increases during the year, one,somewhereinApril,onesomewhereinOctober November.Thesearenominal2%to
3%priceincreases.ThelastpriceincreasewhichwehavetakeninAprilisalittlemore
than2% 3%but it isnot intherange inwhichyouaretalking. It isdefinitelynot in
thatrange. Itisamidsingledigitnumber,buthavingsaidthat,thisisthefirsttimewe
tookit.Therewereabitofinflationarypressuresbutwewerealsoobviouslywatching
theconsumersbehaviourveryveryclosely.Wehaveourownwaysofdoingthat.We
haveseennochangewhatsoeversofarduringthefirstmonthandhalfofthisyearon
consumerbehaviourwithrespecttoprice.
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RaviGupta:Amnish,toaddtowhatAjayhasindicatedseewedonotincreasethepriceofall theproductsacross.Whenwe increased thepricesnow inApril,wehavenot
increasedpriceofthePizzaManiawhichremainsatRs.39. Soitmeanswhenwedoa
weightedaverageincreasesomeofthepizzavarietymayhaveahigherpriceincrease
and
some
of
them
can
have
a
lower
or
no
increase
at
all.
So
that
is
the
reason
you
may
say10%to20%butthatisnotintherangewehaveoperatedeverinthehistoryonthe
company. Ourincreasewas5%p.a.
AmnishAggarwal:Okaynowactually,thedifferenceisyouarelookingattheweightedaveragepriceincrease,butI'mlookingatsaytheonlythepizzasegment,becauseyou
arerightthatPizzaManiahasnotseenanyprice increasebut if I lookatsay,pizza in
particular,onlypizzapart, Imean, if I lookatOctoberandnow theprice increase in
someofthemIthinkaspermydataitssayindoubledigitsifI'mnotwrong.
AjayKaul: Ifyouseen lasttime inOctoberandwedidgothroughaprice increase inNovemberalso. Somaybe it isamultipliereffectoftwoprice increases. Youknow,
whatwedo is,wedoactuallyaweightedaveragewhichmeanswelookattheactual
salesgeneratedbyeachSKUandmultiplyitwiththepriceincreasesandsoon. Andas
Iwastellingyou,theweightedaverageimpactisnot2%to3%butitisstillamidsingle
digitkindofanumber, ifyouunderstand. Andmost importantly istheelasticity,we
arenot seeing so farany visible signswhatsoeverof consumeroff takeshaving got
impactedbecauseofit.
AmnishAggarwal:OkaybutbecausePizzaManiapricesarestable,hastherebeenanyincreaseinofftakeofthesame?
AjayKaul:Ithasbeenatthesteady,samelevelasithasbeeninthepreviousyearsorthepreviousmonths.
RaviGupta:AndthenAmnishtoupdateyoulastyearwehavetakenPizzaManiapriceupfrom35to39atonegoitself. SoitisnotthatwedonttakethePizzaManiaprice.
Thistimewehavedecidenottotakeit,butatappropriatemomentswewilldothat.
HariBhartia:OntheinflationIjustwantedtoaddwhatAjayandRavihavesaid. Whileinflationobviously increasesthepriceofrawmaterialbut Ithink JubilantFoodWorks
and its team have done a fantasticjob of leveraging our increasing amount of raw
materialsthatwebuyfromthesupplier. SoA)wecontinuouslydevelopnewvendor
whoaremorecosteffectiveandeven theexistingonesbecauseofoursheersizeof
purchasesgoingupeveryyearsubstantially. Sowhilethereisinflationonrawmaterial
butIdontthinkweallowtheimpactontherawmaterialatthesamelevelbecausewe
certainlyleverageourbuyingpowercontinuouslyaswemoveforwardbecausewebuy
thesamestuffinamuchlargerquantity. Ithinktheteamhasdoneaverygoodjobin
that.
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AmnishAggarwal:OkayMr.Bhartiathanksalot.Moderator: Thank you, the next question is from the line of Harish Zaveri fromDeutscheBank. Pleasegoahead.
HarrishZaveri:Thisquestion isaddressed toMr.Bhartiaand therewas this investorapprehensiononachangeinarticlesofassociationthreemonthsearlier,therewasone
particularlineonthechangeinarticleswhichwasthatyoucouldgointobeachresorts
andhotels. NoIremembercheckingwiththemanagementandtheanswerthatIgot
wasnootherinvestmentsexceptinfood,butIwantedtoknowyourviewsonthisone.
HariBhartia:We were very clear and have exactly the same view. We have nointentionsatall. Ithink itmusthavecreeped inbecausesometimesyoutrytocover
everythingwhenyougo fora change,probablyRavi canexplain thisbetterbut this
Companyasyouknowhasremainedfocusedsincethetimeitstartedandcontinuesto
remainfocusedinthelineofbusinessthatwearein. Soyoucanberestassuredthat
wearenotbuildinganybeachresorts.
RaviGupta:HarrishtoaddtowhatHariBhartiahasindicated,Ithinktheexplainaboutstatement inthatnoticewasveryclear,thatalltheseamendmentsandwhateverour
futureendeavourswillbe,theywillbeallrelatedtothefoodbusiness. Youcanreadit
clearlyinthatline,weareveryclearthatwearefocusedonthefoodbusinessandwe
dontintendtodivertinanyotherdirection.
HarrishZaveri:Yesthankyou.Moderator:Thankyou.Thenextquestion is from the lineofKalpeshMakwana fromQuantcapital. Pleasegoahead.
KalpeshMakwana:Wehavetalkedabout increasedscaleofbusinessa lot. TheonlythingwhichIwantedtoknowis,isthereanypossibilityofgrossmarginexpansionfrom
goingforwardyear,ifthefoodinflationweretocomedown?
Ajay Kaul: As I said, a little while back, as we see the business right now we areconfidentthatwewillbeabletomaintainthemarginswhichwehavedeliveredinthe
previousyearwhich is17.7%, in the comingyearalso. Ifyou lookatour last three
yearsperformancewehavebeensteadilyimprovingourmarginperformancefrom12.
1%to15.5%tolastyear17.7%. Ifwehaveunprecedentedgrowth,farmorethanwhat
weanticipate,sometimestherecanbereasonsunknowntous forexamplewe think
we cando20% same store growth, ifwedobetter than that, therewillbemargin
improvementforsure,butasofnowweareconfidentof17.7%delivery.
RaviGupta:Kalpesh,ourgrossmargincontinuestobearound75%and inthe futurealsowewilldefinitelytrytomaintainaroundthatlevel.
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KalpeshMakwana:Okayperfect thatanswers. Andanotherquestionwhich Ihad inmindwasthe80storesguidancethatwehaveincreasednow,areweseeingthisonly
forFY12orweareconfidentofachievingthesamenumberfromyearscomingahead.
AjayKaul:Thesearethenumberonly201112whichmeansnextfinancialyear.KalpeshMakwana:Butisthegroundsituationgivingyouenoughconfidencethatyouwillbeabletomaintainthis?
AjayKaul:Wewillmakethestatementattheappropriatetimebut fornextyearweareprettymuch confident that 80 storesor somethingwhichwe shouldbeable to
deliver.
KalpeshMakwana:Perfect sounds good. Andmy lasthousekeepingquestion,whatshouldbethetaxrateforFY12?
RaviGupta:FY12,itwillbefulltax.KalpeshMakwana:Fulltax,33%?RaviGupta:Yes.KalpeshMakwana:Okayperfectthanks.Moderator: Our next question is from the line of Hiren Dasani of Goldman Sachs.Pleasegoahead.
HirenDasani:OfRs70croreCapExinFY11canyoubrieflyorapproximatelytellwhatwould be commissary related,whatwould new stores related, andwhatwould be
replacementrelated?
RaviGupta:Icangiveyouaballparkfigures,about90%ofthisisrelatedtothestores,Andthatincludesbothnewstoresaswellastheexistingstores. Nowtheinvestmentin
thestoresisapproximately,inthelastyearwasinthetuneofaboutRs.7millionper
storeandtherestisfortheexistingstores. Ihopethatwillsuffice.
HirenDasaniSureandthisRs.7millionseemstobegoneuplittlebit?RaviGupta:Yesthisyear itwillgoupforthereasonwhich Itoldyou,sayingthatwewillbe improvingourqualityofthestoresandthere isabitof impactoftheinflation
alsoandboth these factorswill result inan increaseof thisnumber. So likewewill
havedigitalmenuwhich Isharedwithyouandotherqualityof theconstructionand
otherareasalsoweareimprovingandwehaveseenwhereverwehavespentthatkind
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ofmoneyitpaysbackprettyfast. Andthatisthereasonwewouldliketospendlittle
moreonthat.
HirenDasani:Inanyoftheoperatingexpenditurelinethatisemployee,therentortheotherOPEX,willtherebeanyDunkinrelatedexpenditureaswellinthequarter?
Ravi Gupta: In the quarter yes there are small expenses like agreement relatedexpensesandotherthingswhicharethere,notverysignificant.
HirenDasani:CoulditbelikelessthanRs.5croreormore?RaviGupta:Yesmuchmuchlesser.HirenDasani:Okay.Thankyou.Moderator: Thank you. Our next question is from are line of Neeraj Sadani fromBarclaysWealth. Pleasegoahead.NeerajSadani:IactuallywantedtoknowthatisthereapossibilitythatwewillusethesamestoresasDominostosellourDunkin'Donutsproductsgoingforward?
Ajay Kaul: No, the answer of that question is a direct no. These are two separatedivisions, theseare twoseparatebrandsandthekindofmarketsor targetsegments
theyarekindofgoing foraredifferent.Soasaresulttheremaybecoincidence that
theremaybeaDominosandaDunkin'storenexttoeachotherbutnotunderoneroof
ifyouunderstand,butinalllikelihoodtheywillbeindifferentlocationsalso.
NeerajSadani:Okaysir,thanks.Moderator:Thenextquestion isfromthe lineofVishalDesai fromCentrumBroking.Pleasegoahead.
VishalDesai:Ijustwantedtosenseastothe80storetargetthatwehavebeengivenforFY12,howmanyofthesewouldbeSriLankabasedstores ifyoucouldgivemea
figureonthat?
Ajay Kaul:None of these stores are from Sri Lanka. These numbers are purely theIndianoperation.VishalDesai:Thiswillbeonly Indiaoperation including theone starting in thenextmonthaswell.
AjayKaul:YesitdoesntincludetheoneinSriLankawhichweareproposingtostartinJunenextmonth.
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VishalDesai:Thanksalot.Moderator:Thankyou thenextquestion is from the lineofMadhuchandaDey fromKotakInfina. Pleasegoahead.
MadhuchandaDey:Whilementioningaboutthegrowthnumbersonthesamestore,ifyoucouldgiveussomesenseofhowhasbeenthemovementintheaverageticketsize
ofyourbillsoverthequarters? Imeanhowhasthat improvedfromthebeginningof
theyeartotheendwhathasbeenthetrend?
AjayKaul:Wewillnotbeabletogiveexactinformationonthatbecausewebelieve,abitof it is,reasonablyproprietaryandtheremaybeabitofcompetitiveedgesitting
therebut Icantellyouonething, Ididspeakearlieronabouthowsomeofthenew
products likeChocoLavacake,Pastaforsure,theWrapthesehaveall ledtoshareof
stomachincrease.SowhenItalkofshareofstomach,itmeansthatthesamecustomer
whowasearlierorderingpizzasalsostartedhavingabitofPastaandabitChocoLava
cake and so on. So clearly that has led to ticket size increase, And while on a
standalone basis also there are pure Pasta eaters and pureWrap eaters and so on
whichhasledtotheorderincrease. Sinceyourquestionisonticketsizewehadbeen
growingticketsizequitehandsomelyoverthelastoneortwoyears.
MadhuchandaDey: And is there anynewproduct additionplanned in theDominosframeworkthisyear?
AjayKaul: Indeed, theproduct innovation centric topizzasandnoweven centric tononpizzasisclearlywhatwealwayssaidisadifferentiatorforDominosandweplanto
launchnewsides,wealsoplantolaunchnewpizzasduringthecourseoftheyearand
youwillgettohearaboutthemandseethemonTVaswhentheygetlaunched.
Madhuchanda Dey: Okay.Slightly different question on the Dunkins platform, youwerementioninga lotabout Indianizedofferings inDunkins. Myquestion is,when
youaregivingitaconceptofDunkinswhatisthatyouhaveinmindintermsofyour
competition, ImeanwhoarebasicallygoingtobethecompetitortoDunkins inyour
framework?
AjayKaul:Seesincethecategoryifyouaskmeisatastagewhichisstillsointheinitialstages. Honestly,Iwouldntputanybodyinthecompetitorslistname. Letmespenda
momentontellingyouwhatDunkinDonutswouldtrytoachieveordoinIndia.Ifyou
lookattheIndianmarket,clearlywhilethereisasmallcoffeemarketbutgrowingata
bigpace,thereareafewotherthingsbutalldaypartfoodoptionsincludinglunchand
dinnerconsumedoutsideofhome, isthesingle largestsegment.Nowtherearesome
Indiancompanies,IndianbrandslikeaHaldiramandsoonwhicharetryingtocaterto
this. We believe based on what we would inherit from Dunkin Donuts from other
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countries, IamtalkingofcountriesoutsideofAmerica,where foodhasplayedavery
importantrole,andwewouldprimarilybeoperating inthealldaypartfoodsolutions
markets.Andan integralpartof thatoffering isgoing tobeDunkinDonuts.Country
after country wherever Dunkin has gone they have had a roaring successwith the
donuts
and
they
are
undisputed
market
leaders
and
we
believe
that
it
is
going
to
be
a
similarstoryinIndiaalso.Andthethirdpegofthestoryiscoffeeandotherbeveragesin
theIndiancontextbecauseitistropical,sotherearealotofothernoncoffeeorcallit
coldbeverageswhichDunkinhastooffer.Sothisisgoingtobetheoverallmixofwhat
thestoryisgoingtorevolveround.Alldaypartfood,donutasanintegralhookwhichis
sittingthereandhasgottremendouspotentialasacategoryandcoffeeandbeverages.
Inthebeginning ifyouseeforallthesecategoriesespeciallycoffee it isstillaconcept
which issonew in India.Goingbyexperienceofcoffeeconsumption inotherpartsof
theworld,percapitaconsumptionofcoffee in India isoneofthe lowest.Even ifyou
weretohaveanurbancutinitisstillveryverylowcomparedtosomeofthemarkets
like letussayAsianmarketsandsoon.Sothereisa lotofheadroomforthattogrow
andDunkinDonutscoffeeintheUSifyouareaware,isalwaysseenascustomerbeing
themostbrandloyaltoforthelastfiveyears.Whenevertheyhavedoneloyaltytests,
Dunkin'Donutscoffeeisregardedastheonewhereconsumershavemaximumloyalty
towards. That is why they have a campaign which has a tagline America runs on
Dunkin.Sowebelievethatwhileasmallsegmentbuthasalotofheadroomtogrow
all day part snacking option is something which we are going to focus on. In the
beginningtherewillbetheWesternbiasinitbutclearlytherewillbetheIndianoptions
andover theperiodof time since theyhave the leewayand flexibility to Indianizeas
much asmuch as possible,we would all get into that also and clearly donuts as a
differentiator will always be there. Because nobody else in the world actually has
donutslikeDunkin'Donuts.
MadhuchandaDey:DonutsinIndiahavenotreallycaughtoninabigwayunlikePizzaandwehaveat least intheurbanpartof India it isnotthatwedonothaveexclusive
coffee chain. I mean definitely you must be having in mind where would you
differentiateyourselfandyoudefinitelyalludedtothisIndianisedoffering.Isthereany
modelthatyouhaveinmindwhichyouwouldliketogiveusasenseofatthisstage?
AjayKaul:Somestrategydevelopmentandsomeresearchworkison;sothatisgoingtocrystallizeourthinkingthatmuchmore.Butweclearlydonotbelieveweareanother
coffeeplayer, like thereare somepeople in themarket,whoalso andwe know are
trying to aggressively trying to focuson foodbecause they realize that there is that
muchmoretothewholestory.Webelieve,goingbysuccessofDunkinDonutsitisone
ofthelargestbakedgoods&coffeecompanyinthewholeworld.Marketaftermarket
wheretheyhavegone,donut,asacategoryhadaroaringsuccess.Weseenoreason
whyifwedogetouractright,wecannotdevelopdonutasacategoryinIndia.Youmay
arguethatsomepeoplehavenotbeenabletopromotedonuts,butwedonotbelieve
thatthosearetherightdonutcompanies.DunkinDonutsisthelargestdonutcompany
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intheworld.Theirdonutsareconsumedbythedozensineverycountry.Sowewillget
ouract right, sameas the storywithpizza letme tell you1415 yearsback, initially
nobodyknewwhatpizzaswerethere,sowehavebeliefandconfidenceinourstrategy,
inourexecution,thatwillbeabletomakedonutsahouseholdname.Butdonutisonly
a
subset
of
all
day
food
part
option
is
what
we
will
be
focusing
on
and
clearly
supporting
thatbyastrongcoffee&beverageprogram.
MadhuchandaDey:Okay,thanks.Moderator:Thankyou.ThenextquestionisfromthelineofPratikBiyanifromStandardChartered.Pleasegoahead.
Pratik Biyani: I wanted to know your strategy on opening of new stores. One, inexistinglocationsbasicallywhattypicalradiusofcoveragedoyoulookat,specificallyin
topfivecitieslikeyouaretalkingaboutMumbai,BangaloreandDelhi.From50towhat
numberofstoresdoyouthink itcango,50to100or70?Andsecondwouldbewhen
you enter in anew city build a certain per capita statistics on population figures to
decideonwhichcityyouwanttoenter?
AjayKaul:Letmeanswerthesecondquestionfirst,yes,youarerighteverytimetheyenteranewcitywe lookata lotofpiecesofdata,primary,secondarydata,wegoto
reports,andwelookatpercapitaconsumptionofdurablesandsoon.Butourmodelif
you realize is suchwheredensityofpopulationofacertain typeofSEC isvery,verycritical.Sowhilewedoall thatwealsogoon footand that iswhywehaveourown
businessdevelopmentteamwhoaretrainedunderacertainwayofDomino'sworking.
And they identifywhich isjust the rightplace for opening stores.Andwehavehad
roaring success city after city where we have gone. For your information we have
entered21newcitieslastyear.Sowedoallthat,callitduediligence,callitscienceand
technologyallthesearebroughtintothiswholeprocessandwhynotbecausewehave
tomakeeverystoresuccessful.Asfarasthefirstquestionisconcerned,morethanthe
radius governed by a certain range by kilometers especially in big cities, as the
frequencyofconsumptionisgoingupandup,werealizedthatone isofcoursethe30
minutesorfreeuniversalpropositionwhichwehaveforourcustomersthatweneedto
keep inmind.Andwealsoneed tokeep inmind theservice levelstoourcustomers,
sometimeswereachin30minutesbutitisattheupperendofletussay2829minutes
whichisnotagainwhatwewant,becauseouraveragedeliverytimesaremuchlesser.
Soasfrequency is increasingwecarveoutstoresoutoftheexistingstoresandearlier
whentherewasjustonestore,nowwehavewithsomevirginmarketsaround it,we
havemaybe2or3or4stores.So ifyourquestion isultimatelythathowmanystores
canyouhave in these large cities,we cannotputanumberbut there is tremendous
potentialstillforustogrow.
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PratikBiyani:Mysecondquestion isonsamestoresalesforstoreswhicharemature,whichareoperating formorethanthreeyears,what isthepercentageofsamestore
salesgrowththatyou'rewitnessinginthesestoresascomparedtothenewstoresthat
youarebringingin?
AjayKaul:Betweenastorewhichislet'ssayhonestlyeven10yearsold,13yearsold,8yearsold,ifIhavetodosomesortofcorrelationanalysisonit,theyareallgrowingat
rateswhicharenotverydifferentfromeachother.Soitisnotthatwhenastorewhich
is 1214 years old does it start givingjust a singledigit samestore growth and the
answertothatquestion isno.Buttheyaredifferinganditdependsonalotoffactors
butthereisnosaturation,assuch,ifthatistheunderlyingpointinwhatyouaresaying.
Sometimeswhenastorebecomesverybigandserviceleveltocustomersstartsgetting
affectedthenwesplitastoreandcreatetwooutofone.
PratikBiyani:Ofthe80storesyouareplanningtoopen,doyouplantoenteranother20morecitiesthisyear?
AjayKaul:Wedonothaveanumberofnewcitiestargetinfrontofus.Buttherewillbea sizable number of new cities that we will enter. In the last three years we have
enteredasmanyas50+newcities.Lastyearinparticularweentered21.Soeventhis
yearweintendtoenteralotofnewcities.
PratikBiyani:OnelastquestionontheICDsthatyoumentionedabout,itisRs.30croreandhowmuchdoyouexpecttoearnoutof it,atwhatratehas itbeengiven, ifyou
couldshareitscontributiontootherincomewouldbeinthiscurrentyear?
RaviGupta:Wewillnotbeable to share theexactpercentage theamountwehavesharedwithyouandwehavegivenittoanorganizationofrepute.Thatisallwhatwe
cansharewithyou.
PratikBiyani:Okay,thankyou.Moderator:Thankyou.Thenextquestion is from the lineofVijayChugh fromAmbitCapital.Pleasegoahead.
VijayChugh:Myquestionwasaretheregoodreliableestimatesavailableforgrowthfortheindustryforthepast1to3yearsandconsideringthewayfoodhabitsarechanging,
whattempocanbesustained?
AjayKaul:Therearevariousreportsfromvariousagenciesfromtimetotimeconsultantsandsoon.Butnoneactuallyclearlyspelloutwhatyoujustsaid,concretely,buttheyall
allude in a certain direction. Some reports from people like Technopac and others
probably do talk about consumption a little bit. But all we can say is that the food
servicesmarket,organized,unorganizedandeverythingputtogether isahugemarket.
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Andorganizedpartof it isstillwebelievebasedonvariousestimates,justabout10to
12% of thewhole thing. If youwere to take a subsegment fast food and as a sub
segmentofthatpizzaandpasta,whilemostof it isorganizedtoday it isstilljustabout
2%of thiswhole thing.So theheadroomorgrowth forpercapitaconsumption ifyou
may
in
other
words
that
is
the
yardstick
to
look
at.
There
is
a
lot
of
headroom
for
pizza
andpastatogrowasacategory.
VijayChugh: And intermsofmarketshares,consumersatisfactionorconsumerloyaltyanymatrixtoknowfromthecompanysidehowtheyhaveassessedormeasureditover
thelastoneyear?
AjayKaul:Weareprettymuch frenziedabout customer satisfactionmeasurement. Infactforyourinformation,whileouremotionalladderingtoourconsumersisKhushiyon
Ki HomeDelivery, internally our every storemanager in our every store, there is a
KhushiyonKaMeterwhichisthereineverystore.Thatisthewaytheylookatit.And
basedonafairlyrigorous1015pointprogram,doweassesshowhappycustomersare
inthatstore,andthatisbasedondeliverycustomerindexwhichisseparatefromdine
in.Wealso lookatthenumberofconcernswhichcomefromeverystoreandhowfast
they get resolved. And we look at lot of other indexes and all that go into defining
Khushiyon KaMeter for every store. So every storewhenwe enterwe know how
happy theconsumersare in that store.Overandabove thiswealsouse theMillward
Brownmodel,whichtellsusthatagainstsomeothercompetingbrandhowhappyour
customersare.Wedomysteryshopperexercise,sowedoalotofthings;infactweare
fairlyobsessed youmay say in somewayswith customer feedbacking and customer
service.AndforyourinformationtheFranchisingAssociationofIndialastyear,amongst
all
retail
companies
in
the
country,
for
customer
service
and
responsiveness
give
us
the
number one award, across the industry. Which means that it includes large format
retails,itincludeshospitality,itincludeseverybodyandwewerenumberonethere.
VijayChugh:Thankyouverymuch.Moderator: Thank you. The next question is from the line of Saurabh Pant from SBIMutualFund.Pleasegoahead.
SaurabhPant:Ajayyoujustspokeaboutataparticular levelstore intermsofrevenuesizeorthescaleofthestore,youconsidersplittingthestores.Soisthereanybenchmark
averagerevenuewhichwouldactuallybringwherethequalitystartsgettingaffectedand
youconsideranewstore?
AjayKaul:No,thereisnobenchmarkpersay,becausealotofstoreswehavedifferentlybasedon spreadof thehouseholdcount. If Igiveyouoneexampleprobably thatwill
helpyoutounderstandwhatIamsaying.DelhiasacityisveryflatwhereasMumbaiasa
cityisveryvertical,sothesameyardstickscannotbeappliedtothesetwocities,because
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theyaredifferent.Sotoansweryourquestiontherearenoyardsticksintermsofletus
sayrevenue.Buttherearesome,Iwouldnotstillcallconcretebenchmarksbutthereare
somenorms intermsofhouseholdcountbutmore importantlywe lookverycloselyat
howsatisfiedcustomersare,howmanylatesareweofferinginthatstoreespeciallyover
the
weekends,
,
what
is
the
average
delivery
time,
so
those
are
the
indicators
which
tell
usthatarewestretchingourselvesinthatparticularstorewhereourcustomerserviceis
sufferingandthatbecomesan indicatorforusthatmaybethetimehascome for itto
split.
SaurabhPant: But generallywhen you see that these factors that you spoke about,these start getting affected and you think about opening another store but on an
average such storeswhichare splitwhatkindof revenue they clock, it canbea very
broadnumbersomethinglikethat?
AjayKaul:Theyarelargestores,Icantellyouthatthesearenotsmallstores;theseareprobablythestoreswhichareinourtop40%.
SaurabhPant: So exactly like Ravimentioned thepoint thaton an average youhaveclockedaboutRs.1.9croreperstore,biggeronesareclockingsomewherearound2.5
timesofthat,sowecanconsiderthatnumbertobesomething
AjayKaul:No,Iwouldsayyoudonothavetogothatfar,evenstoreswhichareletssay3040%morethanthissometimescancomeupforsplittingandletmetellyouonething
that same store growth number which we have been talking about, 38% last year,
includes the impactwhichmaybecomingbecauseof thissplitting,netof that impact
that thispointnumberone.Pointnumber two is thatevenwhenwearesplittingand
obviouslyonestoreislosingsomerevenueandtheothernewstoreisbeingcreated,the
return on investment norms which we have internally are taking the net sales into
account because we clearly are also cognizant that overall the new store should be
returningtheinvestment.
SaurabhPant:Howmanystoreswouldhavebeensplit,sayinthelastoneyear?AjayKaul:Ifyoulookataswespeak,itisagooddoubledigitnumberwhichhassplit.RaviGupta:Apartfromwhateverstoreswehaveopenedinthenewcity,wheneverweopenastoreinexistingcitytherewillbesomelevelofsplit,canbe10%split,canbe50%
split, canbeanything inbetween. Sopracticallywhenever youopen inexisting cities
therecanbeasplit there,except formaybe secondstore in thecity thatcouldbean
exception.
SaurabhPant:Justarelatedpoint,canwelookattheDominosmodeltodayintermsofrevenueonapersquarestorebasis,thatissomethingwhenitstartsreachingalevelof
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somethinglikeletussayyousaidanindicatingno. Rs3crore,justforexample,sothose
storesuntiltheyreachaboutthatrevenuebenchmark,theycangrowatsomethinglikea
samestoresalesgrowthnumberbeyondthattheywouldgrowsomethingmaybesub
10%ofthatnumber.Wouldthatbetherightwayofunderstanding?RaviGupta:Whenyoulookatlastyearspecificallylike37%growthwhichwehad,wetrytoanalyze whetherthebiggerstoresaregrowingat lowernumberorolderstoresare
growingatthatnumber,andwearesurprised,althoughthereisadifferenceofacouple
ofpercentagepointsbutallcategoriesstoreshavegrown.
SaurabhPant:Soyouaresayingthatthedeviationofgrowthisverylowacross?RaviGupta: Yes.Only in caseswherewe decide to split, therewill be an impact forsometimebutwehaveseenthatwithin3to6monthstimeletussayninemonthstime,
thestorerecoversthelostsalesandstartsgrowingagain.
SaurabhPant:Thanksalot.Moderator:Thankyou.Ournextquestion is from the lineofMitulMehta fromLuckySecurities,pleasegoahead.
MitulMehta:Yousaidthatourmetroconcentrationisabout45%.Justwanttogetsomesensemetroversusanonmetro in termsof thecustomer responseandhowyouare
expandingthestomachofaconsumerby launchingnewproducts.Whathasbeen the
growthpatterninFY10/FY11forametroversusanonmetro?AjayKaul:Seefromanonmetroletusexcludestoreswhichhaveopenedinthelast1to1.5 to 2 yearsbecause these arepurelynew small kindof stores. So letus compare
metroversusothernonmetro less theother segment Ijust talkedabout.Wearenot
seeing a big difference between these two categories. If you understand what I am
saying,thisisnotanumberwhichIam,asaproprietaryIwanttohidefromyou,butwe
arenotseeingabigdifferencethere.Thereisnobigcorrelationwhichwecanrunthere
that there are saturations being achieved. In the smaller cities by virtue of higher
penetrationmoreandmorepeoplestartconsuming, inbiggercitiespenetration isnot
thatmuchofanissuebutfrequencystartsbecominghigherandhigherbecausepeople
therearethatmuchmoreinternationalized,globalized;theyhavebeeneatingpizzasfor
alongerduration.Toansweryourquestioninstraightforwardtermswearenotseeinga
bigdifferenceintermsofmanifestationonsamestoregrowth.
MitulMehta:Or letussayanonmetrocentrewhenyourecentlyormaybeopenedastoreayearorayearandahalfbackthattheexperiencehasbeenprettymutedversus
someothercentre?
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AjayKaul:Thereare.Oneoddoftenareplaceswheretheresponseisnotasgoodaswehadexpectedbuttodaywehavealsothroughallourprecisionmarketingandallother
marketingweapons thatwehave,ground level, local storesmarketing,corporateswe
areabletoturnaroundthesestoresalsoaftergivingallsortsofinjectionstothemina
short
period
but
other
than
that
and
I
would
not
like
to
name
any
because
they
are
prettymuch random.Afterall theduediligence thatwedo they sometimesgiveusa
surprise.Butprobabilityofsuchstores,asIsaid,isjustabout5%.
Mitul Mehta: We did talk about runaway inflation in milk and cheese. Andcorrespondinglywe did take some price action. Sowhen you take price actions, the
intensityofpriceactionversuspreviousyearandayearbeforethat,howmuchofaprice
hikedidwetakethisyearversuslasttwoyears?AjayKaul:Wehavebeentakingtwonominalprice increaseseverysixmonthsandthishasbeenthepatternforthelast34yearsofaround2%to3%.ThisyearinAprilwetook
slightlyhigherthanthatandsofarthereisnoindicationthatconsumerofftakehadany
impact.
Mitul Mehta: To reverse the prices once the inflation starts cooling off, so do thebenefitsgetimmediatelypassedonortheimpactofpricerisecontinuestoaccruetoour
company?AjayKaul: Firstly, your question is a littlehypothetical.We donot foresee that foodinflationleddecreaseswillhappeninforeseeablefuture.Iftheyareatthesamelevelwe
should feel lucky. So, the chances that it is going to go down are low. But even
hypotheticallyitweretogolow,Idonotforeseethatwewillgoaheadandreduceprices
that is my immediate answer although it is a hypothetical question. So in that
circumstancemaybeitwillstartgivingussomemarginbenefits.
MitulMehta:Mylastquestion isa littlebroadbasedandprematurebut Iamsureyoucananswer.NowourJubilantpizzamodelseemstohaveverywellestablishedasfaras
returnparametersareconcerned.NowifIweretolookatDunkinDonutsasaseparate
entityorasegment,haveyousetanyinternaltargetsintermsofwhatkindofreturnon
capitalemployedwewouldbetargeting,oristheeconomicsinDunkinDonutswouldbe
identicaltoaDominospizzashop?Ravi Gupta: See our evaluation criteria for opening a new store atDominos is thatpaybackforthatstores,whateverwehaveinvestedinthatstore,shouldbelessthan3
years.AndthenweevaluatedDunkinDonutsandallotherbrands,wehavepassedall
thosebrandsthroughthisfilterandafterDunkinDonutshaspassedthroughthatfilter,
wehaveshort listedthatbrandtogoaheadandwebelievethatDunkinDonutshasa
potentialtomeetthiscriteriawhichisourinternalcriteriaofpaybackofthreeyearsor
less.
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MitulMehta:Thankyouverymuch.Moderator: Thank you.Ournext question is from the lineofAakashManghani fromGirikCapital,pleasegoahead.
AakashManghani:Earlieryoumentionedthatsomeofthestoreswhichyouopened,letussay,threeyearsback,tenyearsback,oreightyearsback,theyaregrowingatasimilar
rate.OnethingIwanttoknowhaveanyofyourstoresinthepastdecadeorsohadde
grown?
AjayKaul:None.AakashManghani:Andyoudidnothavetoshutdownanyofyourstores?AjayKaul:None.Youmayhavesometimesseenastoreclosingbutletmeassureyounostorehasbeenshutdownbecauseofperformancereasons.Wemayrelocateandweare
consciouslyrelocatingsomeofouroldstoreswhichareDominosstoresdoingwellbut
weusedtofollowtheoldDominosmodelwheretheywereabitintheinside,notvery
visibleandsoon,andwerealizedaswearemovingstoresmoreandmorehighstreet,
moreandmoreoutside, that itselfgives thebig fillip to the salesandsoon.So those
relocationsmayhavehappenedandyoumayhaveseenanoldstoreshuttingdownbut
nonebecauseofperformance.
AakashManghani:Youmentionedearlierthattherehavebeenchangesinconsumptionpatternalsowhichhasledtoincreaseinsamestoresalesgrowthoverthelastcoupleof
years.Soifyoucangivemeanideathatcomparedtofiveyearsbackvisvisnowwhat
wouldbetheaverageorderstakenawayfromyourtopperformingstorefiveyearsback
ascomparedtonow?
AjayKaul:IcannotshareconsumerleveldatabutIcantellyouthatifyoulookatthreeoffourbucketsoneisifthestorehasgotxnumberofhouseholdsaroundit,howmany
householdsareorderingatleastonceinaoneyearperiod.Nowclearlythishasgoneup
significantly. People who are consuming you at least once or more, clearly their
frequency, if you compare five years back has probably gone significantly upmaybe
more than doubled in this time period. Now households per se, as the store starts
becoming bigger and bigger we reduce the number of households there because
servicing becomes better and so on and we create a new store out of the other
households.Soevennumberofhouseholdsperstorehasbeenreducingoveraperiodof
time.So if Ihavebeenabletoansweryourquestionalltheseconsumer leveldataare
suggesting that at the consumption level clearly the consumer is imbibing pizza as a
categorymoreandmore.
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AakashManghani:Recentlytherewasareportinoneoftheleadingnewspaperstalkingaboutthegrowthpatternsofmostofyourcompetitors,thelikesofPizzaHut,Subwayor
McDonalds,notexactlyheadoncompetitors,soIwouldliketoknowyourtakeonitasin
howdoyouseecompetitionpanningout.Youarethemarketleaderasofnowbut5,7,8
years
out
do
you
see
more
of
international
players
coming
into
the
scene
or
do
you
still
expecttoincreasemarketsharegoingforward?
AjayKaul:See,marketshareresultoftheactivitieswhichwedo,wedonotstartthedayby saying that we want so much of market share. Yes, but market leadership is
somethingwhichwehadaspiredsomeyearsbackandclearlyweare thenumberone
playertodayinthepizzamarketandwealsotakeprideinsayingthatwearethelargest
multinationalfastfoodcompanyinthecountryintermsofnumberofstores.Nowifyou
lookatthepenetrationofpizzaandpastaasapercentageofthetotalmarketitisstillso
small,whiletheindustryis15yearsold,fastfoodindustryandpizzaandpastaalsoasa
subsegmentofthat,wedobelievethatthereisstilllotofheadroomtogrowandlotof
workwhichallofustogetherwhichisusandsomeofourotherhonourableopposition
do,willonlychangehabitsofpeople.IfIweretojustthrowonepieceofstatisticshere,
there are number of meals consumed outside of home in a Delhi or a Mumbai,
compared to any other, let us say a metropolis in Asia, is still so miniscule despite
changingfoodhabitsandsoon,sooutof60mealsinamonthlunchanddinner,avery
small percentage of that is consumed outside of home in aDelhi or aMumbai. The
momentyou lookata JakartaoraBangkokoranyothersuchcountry,theyhavealso
gonethroughthiswholeprocess,theyaresittingat5times,6times,7timesoursize.So
thereisalotofheadroomtogrowthere.Soweareveryupbeataboutthemarket.We
donotbelievecompetitioniswiththenextplayer.Infactwearemorecompetingwith
the
generic
Indian
food
which
is
the
dal
roti,
the
idli
sambhar,
dosa
and
the
chana
bhaturasandsoon.
AakashManghani:Lastly,youmentionedaboutthe80storeswhichyouwillopeninthisfiscal.Howmanywouldbedineinamongstthis?
AjayKaul:Allourstoresaregoingtobedeliverycentricbecausethatiswhatweare,weare a delivery expert and we are number one in the country and also the world.
However,asyourightlysaidthelastthreeorfouryearswehaveconsciouslycreakedour
strategy to create storeswhich also has ample good dinein environment, so all our
storeswhich are comingup this year are going tobehaving adinein centricity also
where they will be people who can sit down and in a good congenial fast food
environmentandconsumetheirfood.
AakashManghani:SotheCAPEXperstorewouldincreasesignificantlyIassume.AjayKaul:Seeitwouldnormallybesimilartolastyearbecauselastyearalsoweopenedsimilar storesbut this yearwehave consciously tried to create thatmuchmorehigh
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stores for the futurebecause37% to38%samestoregrowthalsoareunprecedented.
Wehavebeenwitnessing20%to22%samestoregrowthforalongtimebut37%to38%
wasalsoforthefirsttimeforus.Sowearecreatingstoresforfuturewherebyinvestinga
bit
more
into
infrastructure,
a
bit
more
into
modern
day
technology
to
make
sure
that
they facilitateordertaking,they facilitateorderprocessing,andweareabletohandle
highervolumes.
AakashManghani: Inyour inventory,your inventorieshave increasedsignificantly thisyear.Whatwouldbethereasonforthat?
RaviGupta:Wehaveprocuredoneof thematerial inadvancebecause therewasananticipationofshortageofthatmaterialandthatisthereasontemporarilyinthemonth
ofMarchthusinventorywashigh.
AakashManghani:Thanksalotforansweringmyquestions.Wishyouallthebest.Moderator:Thankyou.Ladiesandgentlemen thatwas the lastquestion. Iwouldnowliketohandthefloorbacktothemanagementforclosingcomments.
AjayKaul:Iwouldliketothankeverybodyforpatientlylisteningtoourpartofthestory.Thank you verymuch forjoining us today.Wehad a strong finish to a year and are
optimisticaboutourgrowthgoingahead.Shouldyouhaveanymorequeriespleasedo
getintouchwithusandwewouldbeveryhappytoaddressthem.ThankyoufromRavi
andmysideandHariBhartia.
Moderator: Thank you.On behalf of Jubilant FoodWorks Limited that concludes thisconferencecall.Thankyouforjoiningusandyoumaynowdisconnectyourlines.
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