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AIRAH ConferencePerth 2017

Water Treatment.

Getting What You Pay ForBy Veolia Water

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Zeetings invitation

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Part 1: By a grumpy old man

Part 2: A new perspective

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Zeetings “what part of the industry are you from”

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Zeetings “How long have you been working in the industry”

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Zeetings “How much should an annual water treatment contract cost for 1 tower, 2 closed loops?”

A. No ideaB. $3000C. $4000D. $5000E. $6000

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In the good old days))

• 30 years ago, I was a young impressionable Mechanical Engineering student at UNSW, and working for the Electricity Commission of NSW, at power stations on the NSW central coast.

• I learnt the value of professionalism.

• 20 years ago, I started a water treatment career with what is now called Veolia, as a service technician.

• I was proud of what I did.

Not me!

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In the good old days))

• Back then, there were some water treatment companies with a large backing of professional experts behind the scenes, including Veolia.

• Service technicians stayed in water treatment as a career

• Property owners took care of their assets for the long term

• Assets were designed to last

• We all tried to do the right thing for corrosion, fouling, efficiency and a new thing called Legionaire’s Disease.

Asset owners paid a decent $,

and got a decent result .

But now))

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Now))

• The big water treatment companies have walked away from the air conditioning business

• Air con water service technicians are often unskilled and not career focused

• Property owners use facility managers who use water subcontractors on cheapest price (often)

• Equipment is manufactured cheaply

• We spend more time on paper work to cover our assets than with real work.

Some air con owners pay peanuts,

and get monkeys .

And things go wrong..)

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Last year was the worst on record for NSW with > 100 cases.

Australian Legionaire’s Disease statistics

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Sydney CBD, Feb, 2016:

Legionaires disease – 9 cases, 1 died

“In such outbreaks, it’s not uncommon that the source is unable to be identified” – Dr Vicky Sheppeard – NSW Health Director of communicable diseases.

Independent Testing:199 samples taken

10 tested positive

2 had >1000cfu/mL

“Cooling towers may be cleaned even before they can be examined," - NSW Chief Health Officer Dr Kerry Chant

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Sydney CBD, May, 2016:

Legionaires disease – 5 cases

Sydney Burwood, May, 2016:

Legionaires disease – 3 cases. 1 died.

It’s impossible to prove a source.

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“Not in my backyard!“ – you say?

“It’s in everyone’s backyard!“ – I say.

3 in 4 Aussie infections were outside NSW.

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Zeetings “When was the last time you checked a chemdrum?”

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What goes wrong?

• The frequency of Legionaire’s Disease cases is increasing

• Independent samplers are detecting Legionella where none was detected by the water tech companies.

• No-one is supervising the techs at site.

• Expensive ‘automated’ controllers are generating tonnes of ignored data.

• Non-Legionella issues, such as chiller efficiency & corrosion, are being overlooked.

Are we spending our money wisely?

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What are the authorities doing?

• They are taking control out of the hands of the water treatment companies –dictating the water management schedule, focussing on public health.

• They are legislating that audits must be done.

• They are employing health officials and giving them unprecedented powers.

Our industry is losing control.

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Zeetings “Do you like authorities having more control?”

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What should we all be doing?

• Contracts should be awarded on the basis of demonstrated professionalism, such as:

• Independent microbial sampling

• Proof of Competency, for the individuals servicing the systems

• Proof of chemistry – supply water analysis, customised programs, defined chemical usage rates

• Preventative maintenance programs

• The treatment companies should be supervised properly, from within, and by you, the customer.

Make sure you Get What You Pay For!

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Zeetings “Rank these in order of importance”

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Is that possible?

• The water treatment expertise still exists.

• The technology has got better, and is great if its used right.

• Chemical products are cheaper due to competition.

• Some simple checks can be done by anyone on site, to ensure quality of service:

• A microbial sample costs $20 for HCC

• Drums – are they empty or full?

• Chemical usage on small towers:

• Inhibitor > 1 pail / month

• Ox’ Biocide 0.5 – 1 pail / month

• Non- ox biocide 2 pails / year

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Part 2: A New Perspective

The industry also includes people like me.

• Graduated as a Mechanical Engineer from the University of Adelaide in SA.

• Worked in both mechanical and chemical water treatment industry for the past 12 years.

• I learnt the value of providing the right solution to clients.

• My job is my passion

• I am proud of what I do.

Not me!

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Now we can))

• Use on-line and remote monitoring techniques, for water chemistry AND performance

• Optimise our water chemistry

• Still use water treatment professionals, with support from grey haired gurus behind the scenes

• Report with unprecedented detail, AND its easy to interpret

• Justify higher quality service on the backdrop of recent scares.

Are customers prepared to paid decent $,

To get decent results? .

For example))

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Chemistry Controls: Veolia IL02• The controller will monitor Conductivity, pH, ORP,

temperature, corrosion rates, alarms, relay activation etc. It will also be fitted with tank level alarms.

• It has a modem in-built and will remotely communicate system parameters and highlight any out of specification levels. It is inclusive of an electronic mild steel corrosion monitor and copper corrosion monitor

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“Water Cycle” water analysis and monitoring – optimising

chemistry

• Scaling projection

• Corrosion projection

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Zeetings rank ox bios

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Optional: A Lesson on Oxidising biocides

• Chlorine kills efficiently at pH < 8

• Bromines are OK at pH < 9

• Stabilised Bromine can’t be controlled

• Overdosed oxidisers are corrosive

• pH < 8 corrodes Stainless steel (SS)

• High chlorides corrodes SS

• Cooling tower natural pH = 8.5 - 9

So, if there’s stainless steel, we should keep the pH high and use high pH biocides, and control them.

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The Veolia Hydrex Solution• What do we do to counter high pH cooling

tower – Mix Sodium Hypochlorite and sodium bromide on site, with ORP control with secondary non-oxidising biocide –Maximum Protection from Legionella AND corrosion minimisation

• Our service technicians are competent and understand the chemistry and the mechanics of cooling tower operation –Service Professionalism

• Sophisticated service reports and Onsite log book for all maintenance data -Thorough and informative reports

• 24/7 Online monitoring & troubleshooting Peace of mind

• And we train our client, so -It’s a transparent partnership.

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Veolia Hydrex Service Reports

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How we are different

If it ain’t green –it needs to be seen

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Data logging

“We don’t just collect the data,

We analyse it!

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How your assets should look?

– yes, we actually keep photographic records too

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Honest microbial sampling –

Use independent samplers where available

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Audit Reports

– On site inspection

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How much should you pay?• $2000 for chemicals

• $800 for microbial testing

• $3000 for services (2 per month)

• $400 for annual audit and review

• $600: tower cleans

• $6800 total

For one tower,

and

2 closed loops

Excluding equipment spare parts or upgrades

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Spend your money wisely!

And get:• The right chemicals

• at the right dose rate.

• Good servicing

• Good reporting

• Good performance