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^L? . X 1 IvV."NO HALL OF FAME

FOR US," SAY WOMENIda Tarbell Thinks the Idea of a Separate Hall ofFame for Women Ridiculous, and Men Artists,

Too, Scout Brander Matthews' Idea.

Thank you, It Brsndei Mattheire the.«omen don't want t-> !,<. "lmmortsle."

they wouldn't be so unkind se lo goHall of Käme all bj them-!

si lv« ¦ erltl "-:t letting -: men In

FEMININE MAGNANIMITY.ii the --amo amount Of talent and

t same training." said MUs Janet B«*ud«an undoubtedly

works Of art SS women"

kled v it h

A u made this replyt, i; an lei Matlh< i u estion th it

won organise to form a Hsll ofe of their own. The process of I.e.

the aOCietV «,f Acan lmm<I»r Matthew«« that it oro lid

for them not to seel* id«

Th« led Mies Bcuddii- bul sh< conquered her emotion finallyand i!ta«i<- the l, mure oh-

ation shout the talents of men* !. d

l'or women to ereel a Hsll of Fsme'.\n particular glorj at tl

i:t WOUM be ridiculous and111 timedLET BYGONES BE BYGONES.w'h*. Hie dark ne

ahown no interest «>r ent-oui -.

woman in her arti-,i mt bear him ill will nos

lias discovered thai woman can die-i^h herself other than in working

nal omfort? Thii won i re er sj no reason for sntsi n the

toward the msli sex, and1 should certslnlj nol siwomen ei e< ting e h,«ii offorming Ii oni whichwen at."The Bve women who were named bj

iMatthi we a^ « llglble foi thelmmoi tali ai e Ida M. Ta eeearch;

: ret man, fiction; Mai¦¦ land '¦ Edith Whsi ton,

at) paintiniMISS TARBELL DEMURS.

.Miss Tail e|| all int« rest in

the Hall of rame.Von know it teems perfectly ridicu¬

lous to me,M ehe snnounoed, when thetei sought her opinionSTICK TO YOUR JOB.

Th" only thins for women to do istick to their lobs." she said, "if I

they do good Work they will >,-, re,ng-jon. This is too busy a world for1

people to ko about proclaiming theira. Movements or demanding IIp-topl« their talentsONE HUNDRED YEARS FROM NOW

1 do.... tint; tabletsand rtatt >plc wiio are living,

I « irs from now,and wlshei

onor our mi moi j that s ¡il be

"But doi't you tbink some aromen whoes mon of

the Hall Of Farm-'."'1 .. bell "Thi*«

ed s< « ral women just as

than some of th«II of Feme. Harri, t Bi

Btowe, !¦ exampl Maria Mitchell andD B, Anthem) "

Ian ; this delightful magnanimity**"SUSAN B. ANTHONY.

"Not at all." said th«- leader of the"antis." "I admire Miss Anthony foiflghtlng al-'illtv. It isn't themakee s woman great h is the wastta - and Busanh' tl k' d hers With Th. dig.r ind Intelligence which marks a üieal

r son."\, m York artists and men of letter-

BCretrl wi'h the women that B separat.«

PHILANTHFThe Minerva Club, Mrs Ifsry Btokei

dent, will hold its luncheonsnd social meeting, to-morrow A bust-

meeting erlll tie celled to order at 12r, < lock, and luncheon will be served at 1

o'clock Mrs Edwarde Jonkrne is «-hair-rii.,11 of th,- luncheon committee. The¦oclal meeting at .". tfcloek «u be in

charge «'f the day's « hairman, Mrs Jere¬miah Psngburn. Mrs Frank Cronlse will

on "Current Events," and a paperWill be read by Mrs Katherine .\ Mar-t.n The un« st «if honor is to t.e John S.

rosh) Prej rations are snder way bythe chairman of reception, Mrs. Franki: Hadly, for the banque! and ball to be

at the Weldorf-Astoris on Dsosmh. r S. in honor at the Hub's president.

Ijcleetlc will hold its second meeting or

the season 00 Wednesday, November 2H-Tins meeting was postponed from Novem¬ber 14.

The New York Browning Society, MissFlorence Wier Gibson, president, held Its

November meeting last Wednesday at the

Wsldorf-Astoris. The programma was

r the chairmanship of Miss KlizabethJackson MOSS The poem for study was

A D.ath in the Desert" An addresswa*- mad.- by the Bev, Dr Lynn HaroldHough, «if Baltimore, and the members©f the Moiety taking part In the dis¬cussion which followed were M mes. N.Archibald Shaw, AU«Be Lsksy, MlnSTVSC Wtfch, Kdwln Markham, Kdwm H

Fieming, Kran« es « "hi t.r and Miss IsSbs]McDo-aga^l An informal social hour fol¬lowed the programme. Mrs. John H.-..-inchfleld, Mrs. Kdward McC. Bigg*MlS. (»rlando N. Dana and Mrs. GeorgeM. Robinson were the hospitality com¬

mittee

OfM hundred and seventy-five memberswere prsSSSl at the luncheon of the

Mount Holyoke Alumna» Association beMat the Hole', Kt Denis last Haturday.Mrs. W H Ollpstlle presi'bd at the busi¬

ness meeting Which BSPcoded the lunch¬eon The chief interest OSBtrsd SrOUDdthe report of the committee appointed t"

rsise funds for the new Student AlumnaBuilding Mrs. J. D Walt-.n, chairmanof this committee, reporte«! that the gen¬eral association now ha« on hand fundsto the amount of $121,000, The buildingwill cost 11.30,000, which leave» $9,000 to beraik«d in the next few weeks. Work is

Hall of l-'nnie for women would he fidlctl«loua

"Il ¡s amaxlng that an) one shouldum« t" cue the arts s sex,' said

Qutzon Borgli m. the Bculptor. "For anyod: of men to bar women from distinc¬

tion because of me» would be m foolish us

for any body of women writers to bar ouiDr. Brsnder Matth« ws Th. re i.» no

¦¡in. ..i feminine ait in la »rt,

Whethei its creator he man or woman"Roberl W rhaftibers refused to dlscuai

ibjecl s. i loualy,ENTER THE SENSE OF HUMOR."Thit B» 11 of thing does m-t interest

me," he said "You see, i have s sensof humor. There never wai enj d» iblIn mj mind Iha I wo* who sr«

an ti.»' equals of men who are clever."William M chose th« paii 1er, seid thai

worn« and letters ought lo beor th» sam» footing as m. n

"ii. art," he nid, "women er« quit»equal to men ««--.lia Been end i.vli»

.tt rank with the t-i.ai« st

of petal

Open Letter toMrs. Pankhurst

T«. t of the W oman s Forum\\",.< » t».." or llf» s

m id. hands "i' tho «-reu, whi-i» consistsol two main factions The flrel fection is

the captain, mate« sailors, etc., whoseei and work art »on the bridge, deck

and near ihe must». The i.nd factioniti of the chief engineer, hi.» as- it-

ente, firemen, oilers, stokers, etc The*men's duties and work arc below the

deck, and nowhere lee. If these two Ítions of the crea t. nd to th«-ir own dutiesand work, if each in«lividual will si k

to his post, undoubtedly there will be n-. \ eg» Bui suppose the chief en*

ommandi tta men und« i him todo Bomethlng, and thej Instead march

upon tta bridge and tell the captain thaiin«- . as »good as he end the otheiperl of the crew, and thai they thereforewin not sta> below, bul Insist upon tek-

d n navigating the Bhlp! If it

chancea to he fine weather and no dangerarises there msy not be an\ serious ©on*

eequencea The changing of places mayand trivial mishaps, and soin.

amusement msy sriss to j--»- unlearnedmen «!<> awkwardly the w.rk of tue men]who re 1*\ know But, on the other hand,suppoe» your *»np runs int.- «grave peril, Ilike the Titanic or the Voltumo, and althe fini siun <>f danger tta crea talo«would refuee to k-ep tta engine runtangland Inelst «>n being on de h and ataretii«- first hai.ee with the other perl of th«crea in f» ttlng im«» tta boats. Tin- amus¬ing perl «>f the show i- ever, if ttatain would Bhool some of the rebels «lown

j ou would epprove ol Telere on« of Ihe rebele; «on even eaeumeth« leadership.

*ih»* whit« t.-i" hfis run into p<ti¡. Th«ahite women refuee lo ir mothers and

-re .,! their children »and the homesTie whit» ra**e Is losing its ground, an«ithe yelloa la »gaining rapMI] In strength.BU] women of England cot

th.-it ir.-m« hlae n-.w. ami made it essleifor the stngl» women to «-am theli lleingwo ild it nol -¦ «Jusl thai n ta arderfor the mat tied men to eilst? Vtfoul

I man« ¦¦ his,!;«!« to cet marri.-'I'.'

I »Supposa some *A«.m»n wer- to b« «I-

feated at the polla; would th<y then »»hit

and riot. and. If punished, start a

Ike? »Suppoe« England cot Inteby rule of the women, aould they

g..? Th'-y «certainly could not stay home,Ithey «-lairn to he Ihe ...| ;al of

The) would her« to take up armsand ficht the for But suppos« th. -. cottaaten; would the) then go windoe

IOPIC ANCI Boon to hosts in th» new Skinner Bull*l-Ing, the ¿¡ft oT William and JosephBklnner, of Holyoke, Mass. Th« after-dinner speaker at yeeterday's lunctaonwas the Hr-\ Nrh»m,«h I'oynton, ofBrooklyn,The New York County Woman Suf-

fraga Aseoclstlon, with it-- many leeguej*snd cl ibs, win bold b Thanksgiving mass

meetlni* at the Hotel AstOT on Tueaday,November ÍS, at 1 p m Among tta

will be Mrs Harr) Heatings«p-***eldent New fork County Aeeoctatlon;lira Maty Ellen »Lesee, Miss Annie B,Peck, th.- mountain climber; John B.Croeby, Mrs Talbert- Perkins, I.ymanBeectar Btowe, Miss Winoae Mariin.Francis Adams, Charles GoldSk r. MissAmy Wren. Mr Urban, Miss Kdith Relf-f.-it and Mrs .Nellie IV Van SllnKtrland

The Juntar I»eaKiie of the Society of theFree Industrial S« hool for Crippled Chil¬dren Is busy with preparations for itsChristmas bazaar, to be h*ld at the Wal¬dorf-Astoria on the afternoon ami even-

in*- of Deeember 2 and ?.. Among th«chairmen of the tables are Mrs. ArthurBillot Pish, Mr.»- rrank N L-ewla MtsOeorge Brand, lira F'rank Keith Taylor,Mrs Frederick Andrews Hace«, Ml*.lames Madison Hattrrton. Mrs HughK.-id Learford, Mra Krank JeffersonBlodgett, Mis Edward Davis .Iones. Mrs.

Casper William Dean. Mrs V. Kl wood. ge, Mrs Mary Fltts, Miss Helen

Rues MaetQubin, MlM Florence Ouernseyand Mrs. Albert Canfield Hate

The Unity Child Welfare Association, ofMrooklyn. discussed ohlldnn'.» reading ata meetlns; held on Wednesday afternoonat the Unity Parish Mouse. No. 9 Irvine,Place Miss Clare W, Hunt, puperln-tendent <»f the children's department ofthe Brooklyn »Public l-ihrary, Bpota on"What the Brooklyn Public Library isDoinii t.» i'.iltlvate in dur Children a

Taeta for Qead L*ltaratui*e.'' FranklinMettawa, calel scout librarian, BoyBcouta of America, *-p«»k» on "CharacterCulture by Means <>f Hooks Boya i.ik«Best Mlea Acnes Cowin«. children'slibrarian. 1'iatt Ldbrary, spoke .,n "Clnl-

dtrea'B Christmas Hooks The Beet of th».*

old ard the N«B

The second regular meeting of theWo-nan's Advanc* «Club, of Heimln.

; Woman's Forum

MISS IDA TARBELL.

il ne and gtSTVf, to cet even With...

- An o* ervei '.s I« d tu ht I« ..

» wouldIf they claim th«--- are equs lo

they ehould take their m, dan,, like th

men. But you take the »par! of th«spo led child, that screams and kickswiun it cannot get what It erant (Indeedi id behavior for am one who espires tomie a country!). Ai d should ihi m« n

take the part of the fond, foollWho ¡:ati(iles the child With gloVtBS On

and give* her what it WOUld; n> |] the nun of Eng] ind i poweiwir een thi msttei

Englend Is that msny men emigrate oi

t.ik. t" th. ses, leaving too mai

me As it v. ith even thiithsl la too plentiful, so it Is i

worn« n; they p> down in menw ho got won en sail) nslspoiled so the I est i lire i to leave Iim men who cannot i:et en) at sil

it would indeed >e far better for everyone if you would, inste.id of giving WOI

en ¦ bad sxsmple bj lowstan ihi-. ad> ise them

to do their duty as mothers,housekeepers snd tell those who esnnolget husbands In England to go to I«

wh.-re men would receive them m th openam s GEORGE W MOHRJersey City.-a

The Mistress, NotMaid to Blame

To the Editor of th« Trll n< Woman'sFoi urn.

Ai ¦ ho isekeep-1 foi twenl andone-half years and pasi ml ¦..¦

tw, ive eu« ceselv« g In fall I)satisfactory don esi «¦«"¦

three and thlrt« enof my friends' bars ei

peí lenes, snd from general obs«on tin« si:,)., t i lalm that In all dialcultles relating to th« I ier«

\antitis the mistress Is st IThere an- mlsti eseee snd mistress«

the well ordered boms, simple ..«rise, presided over by the capsltrass, the situation reeolvei its..,r into .«

business proposition oi mutusl benefit tomistress ai.,i rice mistreat i . s :.ant.

Not a perfect condition, but one, like nili.mnbii itloni. win h requli. mu¬

tual dovetailing of Ideas and "Urays" t..

make the domestic rule s smooth, re(one a little knowledge, we ere told, is a

i PATRIOT* l/ong isiaiifj. '.¦ eld at the homoMis.«« Abhie Thompson, on Cent)«m the afternoon of Noveral. 13 tftethe usual routine business papeiwork were read bj Miss m m Woolleand Mrs. Rl« hard Mott

Mrs Tlmoth) Martin O'ConnOI snd MrsOetberlne «Schutts «rill give s pivotand evchre on Friday, November '-'«. at

2 i'. m ut the Alhema' i«--Hoffman. Broad¬way and Mth street, foi ths Philanthrop«departmenl of the Chicago Women's Clubof New- fork City, supporting the EsBide Mom«- and Dsj Nursery; president,Mrs Wait, i h Oshsgsn. Th« h«are Mrs. Walter II Oshsgsn,

The Colonial rlub was «ntett.-uiu'd .«.-

cently at the home of Mis. BurthumHarding, No. M West !*ist street. Amongthe members fir« .sent Were Mrs Charles(!. MarKay. Mrs. B B Williams, Mr^George Rawson, Mrs J l\ Taylor. MrsICmma Kip Edwards an«l MlH Maud W'-nan. Mr« Raneon will be st,- on Do«cembsr L

Over one thousand invitation« havebeen sent out for a rsesption to be |by the hoard of manager« of the LittleMothers' AM Association on Monday.December i. from :: to ,r>. st Ksppy DayHouse, No is*« s«- "ii.i svenoe, for thebazaar chairmen and their committeea tine musicii programme win !.«. given,under the direction of Miss Rubv Reeseand Mrs. ''amllle Mlrnhaum. Those whowill assist are Sijrnor Kerrl, Hoheit «Irani,Miss AlhOSd, Manolita I'',tus. J DudleyWilkinson, Miss Helena Msrohneudt,Cyril Laub, Mr«. «'. K Anbot and MrsCamille Hlrnba ¡m Mrs Q. H. StronK.chairman of the reception rommltte.-. wltlbe gSStStSd by Mis. J. H Johnston, MrsCharlee B. WUIoox, Mrs n c. Oreaaelle,Mrs. Albert «iallatin Weed. Mrs I.am.irK. Tuttie. miss «hariotte Tike and othermemb«rn of tiie board of managers Mrs.William !¦:. Wilkinson will have charge atthe tea room.

Cambridge*Club met at the home ofMrs. Frederick I.. Jenkins. No l::.: Bain-bridge street, -in Monday, the nth. Twspaper« were prrsente.1 on the genersltopic for the year «if "« "onsei \ atlon.'>ne, by Mrs. Jenkins, on 'The Conserva-tlon of Human Energy and Strength."

I:- hul I IHtlr power t« n BT«

o, end the little power generating from

mall mind of the >.» It) mistress, ep-m Inf« lor It» station. Is ttaon fei perplexlt lee

rounding this i. «¦¦« fei llj 111.The petty ml mands ski led

servio ..t »borer's pay. Bh« engagea an

Ignorant, untrained young woman, know«her limited rapacity, tacause she .-an

Ite h» Id b» -«i-- r a: .1 do the eork.t'en you blame a maid for wishing to j

earn mor«- money, when Bh« becomramore « til- lent? Do« sn'l . tn

.. Her ap-p was "f mul » to I

and mt '. ". ¦. mlstreoeI to th» »nly 1 --m a

nd1VI

her nllll gi itefultiefacton

Th« 11 t ii- . ti aes w hor .¦-. .'.- social

... ... .:¦.,-

irh) the servi»-*» la.. IU| B*rV*Mon

..ndit i« the trees who

th.- Ineoi .

ant Ii road landwould estei tl charity tonher the!

ondt«

elf In yotu Barraní - stet«hi«-'

ember of a fsm-of thai

.

I ta I linees d

Ifet let rf.irm. ¦.1 ol sr for- i

ser ¡.. ever try

friend rorkï.,.1 -M1-

man» and i- insllng ? M imán

natui «ni-- at p-ck l.,.tt»im In allt:.« ni n u which -.i- I

...«., « n to reach Its van Ing levels. So, 1

repeat, keei si bom«. r,>r a

ntltls it williting tta

-, ills.

Th«- raee wll self-» ontrol, its

exatl» - will oftentimeswellnlgh banki .. d bul peis«--v.-K- n ¡s "up t-. you, for you have the

ibett "lights de¬spite -¦ ..- fecetl Be fallto tta servant in Um houe« it will

ÍC WORKI desling with the extensive efforts »and

estlgal --n- non b» Im made in thisdirection. Tta 1. paper, by Mrs.

i« hartes 1. Adama wai 00 "Laws for the

Prote» lion <-f Work«m."

ITh« Headers met on Tueeday, Novem«i-t 1* el tta bom«- «-f the pre ident. MisEva Phlppe, No. HI Went 123d ati

mt .- he sixth rar th« scaly .»f

ILL < l.l It. **~KWfl slioi I I» BBACUI HI. (»I I 1» 1. 01 I lit. 1.1)1 I OK (III III Wlll|t\', III 1-MilMI V I. M.«VOMI TICIHINI. «IN ««It KMOICI".III! BSDA1 01 I \» II BIH, < (H'V

MOULD, »tl i«nit**l, BI MBIT'IBM(ll \ltl \ \M) ON ON», HM tu

i Till. nnOCI «in m.

Bhakespoare'a plays Mrs William L.N'oint iras In charge »>f the meeting and"Anton) snd Cl«*opatra" is th« pta)iin.i.-r on ltd« stlon.

The Btoomlngdale >-. \ Nursery will

give a denclng lournameal Descontar Uat the Hb./... There win ne d«Hnonstra*lions b) ma ¦. dan« is and piiz<- coo*t< its, in n i>i h omlnenl psoph ¦ 111compete There wUI siso Im Bpecial In-lerpretatlv« dancing, whieh will ba fol¬lowed i-«. ¦ supper and general dan,inc.In Which all tta »«u.-sts will take part A

certain sumtai of couples aill !>«¦ desi«-natad beforehand to ink«- part in tta prizecontesta In the one«etep, Tango sad Heeltatlon Wait/., but any guest deslrlni toenter Will be admit!.-.1 Names of those

deelring t«> enter the iims must bo sub«min..1 befor« December I to Mrs. crit-tenden Pei No W Wont «-"ti» streetFancy eoatume will be obligatory, andthe raqt-lretnenta of th.- t-onunlttce must ji.e met in »every detail it is i»«>|.«-d that

.i- .1- poeolbla of tia.se not Includedin the spec Is I programme will ais.» wear

fancy ooetume, snd so sdd t«> the generaleffort Tta entert ilnmenl ,s linder the|..tiona«_.. of well-known women, mam

Of 9 Ii' m ar.- 1 11.. -, BBSQCleted with thewotk of the ,la> nurseries The patroli->-.»».s ere Mrs Arthur Dodge, Mrs. Hen**)vniard, Mrs Begone Prayer, Mrs. will-lam Norman »luthrle, Mrs. Mem y RogtKB>. Iger, Mrs »i.ori*«- A L-egg, Mi-Charles H. S'iuler. Mrs. James MarveyRobinson. «Mrs. Thomas Diamond andMrs. I'uul Klmor More. Tickets may be

_Ä___P*^o\\wm\WMISS JANET SCUDDER.

r*. k ti Paul

I"id).'e ruer thn* '.iwnmrt Chasm of rebel¬lion , ,ian < is« ln<

on the superior, which between womanand wotnai not aslet N. O. M.Ellisbeth, N J.

.-¦

The MistressExpects Too Much

To the Editor of the Tribune Womsn's'. un

in ma the servent is to blame,b it |,. 11.-i as m the mor.- funde mente

the mistress is the culprit.t would i ome

Under tl on, but I only want to

bring up "i," ii ..'! that is the«.i .. ,.; the youni women who marries.

fiealtl man nol«»,!«. to gi% «. her the I cond

.'..,¦ cook¦ nd kit' t.« n maid, ul a ho, « hen

one maid, or < I erjt., !.,. done n the same finished

manner, with ss much dispatch and withaa « ss the case

hi hi father s .nt.

Thl but s,, ma

aspect the Impossible f oi it..ii«;s thaith-*. problem ''. ¦ disease, If youlike ervantll Isee up snd d« mands s

icure'One «o«"i maid cannot much less an

In 'xpei'etc ed maid give < th« -¦ eiceof «'iKht. seven, six, Uve four, three or

even two maids Remember that!New fork MATHIl.l'A P \> 8< »N.

A FAMOUS ASTRONOMER.The Marquis« d l'hatelel was among

th,« distinguish«?*«-] mere of the. Ighteenth tury

IS BEINGobtained I om Mi t'alentlne Schuyler,Ko. ..i West ''"¦ street, ind at the HotelPlsss

< m November M, st I o'clock, theWomsn Suffrage Part} will gHe a recep¬tion at the home of Di Agnee s. Cloud,44!. W'est .'til street, to meet Mrs. JosephW. Cuehrosn, the n.-w!\ appointed leaderof the 7th Assembly District

Mis« Melon i- Whlton is giving i «cries

of talks on "Pun, l-'.i' t. and l'i timi Inthe Current Magssines" si the Women'»University Club on alternate Wednesdaymornings «me talk was given lastlWednesday, an«i the others will occur on

December I .n.d it. Jsnusry ' and n, andFebruary I and IS

The Ohio Cluh wlli meet on Mondaviafternoon at th.« Waldorf-Astoria.

The Friendly Tourists Club <»f Rrook-lyn held Ils regular meeting on Wodnss-day, November 11 si the home of mi-s|II L Williams. No. 7K0 OrsStM avenue, j"Literature" ami "Education In China"!were discussed by Mr«. F, 1 »e l.\!. Smith.ami Mts Wains read ¦ paper on "Cus-toma and Peetlvsls "

The rsguisr monthly mesllng of the Na¬tional California Club Will be held Tues¬day November at. The buelaeas meetingwin be rolled at z o'clock, and the aodalhour will begin at I'M, The programmewin be in charge of Miss Adelaide sted-man.

In order to ,-arry on its good work inmaintaining classes to teach patriotismtO the Immigrant, the National Society«.f PatrlOtk Women of America will holda benefit card game Tuesday, the ISth. atthe Hotel McAlpln. The card playing willb'Kin promptly at 2 ««'clock, under the«halrman-iiip of Mrs. Harvey TysonWhite.

The adioiiriied meeting of the Post l'.-ir-Hsmsnl will be bsM Friday, November-* The business meeting Is scheduledfor 11 a in. and the legulai' programmeof th«' «lav Will itegln at 11 .:io. whenguests ,,f members will be admitted. Mr-.Thomas W. Bendel, bslrmsa of currentevents, will present for discussion theresolution: "Resolved. That 111 a weekis the lowest wan a <t-e_a- .* -.»-"w w-

IS MOTHERHOOD ABAR TO PROFESSION

Lady Gertrude Forbes-Robertson Is ConvincedThat Motherhood Does Not Need All the

Time and Strength a Woman Has.

The opinions expressed in the

following interviews are presentedto the Woman's Forum readers forconsideration. Some will agree,others will just as heartily dis¬agree. The Forum will be glad to

publish letters on the subject in¬volved, provided they reach the of¬fice of the Editor of the Woman'sForum. New-York Tribune, not

later than Thursday noon.

Lad) Corhes-Hoi ertgou cortru'ie i-:i-liotn csnnol underetsnd why th«* Bostrdof Education '»f New York <"lty shouldconsider motherhood a bar to efficient eer«Vice In th<« prhoi'ls. .lust before i:"tng to |rehearsal Isst Thuradsy, In her parlor at

th- Hotel ClsrtdgS, She took a <r;art.r Dfan hour to tell The Tribune why"If a woman were going to have n <*hll«1

»»very year," she paid, "at COUrM Shewould ha\-> no tlnif or Strength to sparefor any "th<*r work. That is wlint this

st.ind of th.' Hoard of Rducatlon p**SCtl-calij consigns her to The rest of yourlifp win h.» spornt in maternal duties,' it

says In effect 'Tou sre of no further unato th" schools' But Bremen do not and

should not have lar.--« famtliee now, u dif a womsn «ho bas spent years in train-

I' .' to be g tearlxT has th«« <le:-ire, when

her baby o: bsMee «re crown enough *°

¡. eft »I'll some one besides herself fora '.ut of ths "lav, to earn her living In

Hi,, schools, or th'- r.r.d to «1«, s". «Thyshould any o)ip s.'ek to prevent herí

I do feel thSt a child needs Its moth«r (

when it i- 'lit!.-, bul not nil women whohave children sre good mothers, sndeometlmee it is better for the child Iin other haii'ls a fait of the «lay. Am!

children, even little children, should ha e

th.' compsnlonshlp of other children.Haven'l you sees how a child that Is

grave and silent when it is with elderpeople sill o;.ii on- when it Is with com«

panlone of.Its own BUM? For that r".is.>ii

i think a very young child is often betterfor being a part of the fUj with "thus

under expert rare, In a BOhOOl or klnder-

garten, ami I am a bc!i"v-*r in the new

method -th« Mongevsori method whichdoei not Intcrfcr-» with the natural de«

elopment of the child.

QUESTION OF DUTY.

"Po it do»»9 not «eem to m» that

being a mother ncd tak<* all there"- of a woman, or that when a

womm bas a rhibi the Bosrd of Educa¬tion has anything to do «rlth that, is

th" teacher «-fflcient? Is she doing h««r

duty by her CiSSSee? Thoso are th«« uu««s-rlons f,r th«- boar«! to decide And If sho

is not. then the board CSS dismiss her on

those grounds. Hut to say to her, 'He-

you ere, ¦ mother, yon are an In¬

efficient teacher.' 1» most unfair."A teseher is sllowsd leave of absence

for purposee of study; why not i««av<*i of" for th." purpose of bearing a

rhlld? Why, motherhood is an CdUOStion;_n' t" broaden a teacher and make

h-r wiser How it eould make h'»r less.it 'o tesch other children I csnnol see

Thre* children Lady «yerbes Robertsonand her husbsnd lesve in Bnglsnd whenthe) at" making a tour ilk.« the present.,!>. "it is th" ion^«-si sbeence from themwe have had. the longest toui we hsvemade," she said yeetor-Ssy. "Mostly we

hav.» a« t.-ii in London, and then we «"an

have them with us They sre u>. schoolIMW, and that i« good for them. It Is

good for children t<> be with other ehll«dren, though there sre many people m

Rnglsnd who don't tend th-ir children,but have tutors for them at home, i don'tthink that a good plan."Hiss ids Tar:..'ii won t t.ikf s definite

i-îaii'i on the teacher-mother question. "I

DONE INpaid." fror.i the point of view of errl- ;clenc)At th«*-meeting of the Mow York Th«»a-

tre Club TtMSdsy, November It, the'guests of honor wer«« Richard A I'lrdy.Miss Grace hiikins, Mrs Ann«- CrawfdrdPlesner, MiesChryetal Heme, M:ss i»oro-thy Donnelly, Miss Ksthsrlne Lee, LynnHarding and Mr and Mrs. Kduin Arden.Mrs Bsrs W, Poeter was chairman ofthe day, ami the sddrese of welcomewse delivered by Mrs iU'\\» ,1.« Rivers.In a progrsmme of song-, and readingsgiven Miss Ausplts, soprano. RlchsrdPurdy, Miss I*.is Fox. Mrs Le Meand Miss Orscs Fllkins took part.Tin- club «abinlar is as follows: On

Thursday, November 30, the New VoikTh.atro Club will ntt.«nd the matinee per¬formance of Arnold Hennett's play. "Th.«Great Adventure." TnmertsT. December 2.regular members' meeting; discussion,'The r;rrat Adventure"; ehslrmsn of dis¬cussion, MrR. Charles RoSSnfeid.

- IThe annual meeting of the BrooklynI

Branch of the Needlework QulM of Aiiiit-|les "ill take piac.« Friday sfternoon, No-i«/ember M, at I o'clock, at th«*. Hotel St.«.'.¦urge. Clark street. Brooklyn. Then-will be addresses by prominent epeskersjmusic and an exhibition of the garments.»hi«, b ar.' to be s. nt to tii» charitableorganizations and hospital** of Brooklyn.Tea will be served at 4 p. m

On Friday evening, November M, th«Light Horse Harry !>».. Society, ChildrenIof tha American Revolution, will give SIdan«e at the Hotel Plaza for th«« bSBSfltof the Philanthropic Fun.l. The floorcommittee will conslat of Miguel K ,b>Agüero. Jr.. Homer l.ee, n -.. Ad.llsonBothernel. Kenneth Fisk. Willour ¡anvil.Charlea m. Les, .i. Prya Nounnsn, jr.!Osorga J. «'arr. Mrs. William R. St.'Wart.Mrs. Homer l>ee. Mrs MOMR Bartich. Mrs.J. F. Nounnan. Mrs. W. y fitch, Mis.Herbert de I>owerby Brown. Mrs. Living«Mon Howe Schuyler and Mrs. Moore Falr-ChlldS The guest» of honor will b.- MisWilliam Cumming Mor) and Mrs.Thomaa J. Vivian

The Washington Height« Chapter.Daughter of th« American Revolution!Mr«. Samuel J. Kramer, recent, will kIv-Its annual card party in aid of Its 8«»tt:«s--"-«i work at the WSJdorf-Aatorl» on

don't think I have looked Into it suffi.ci«*»itl\," sh» said "BUI it docfl B808I tom«- that it's an Individual e¡ lestlon, to bedecided so oidlnc to Individual ->.¦ dit ionsand If the Hoard of Education has madea hard and fast rule against mother-teachers it has ma.;. ¦ ssietake.

..of «¦¦.u_.se. the board ma; feel that itis a bad thine, for th« school »o have ateacher's t« rm of Ben le« Clup into Bectioi a. Intern . ,-.-

duties, if they fee! thai mo »i-an Interruption Injurious to th« claaawof the teacher who t-. other. [s»-e a reason for their action, Bul don'tMO how they run make It til in«dividual conditions count 'r>' much.**Miss Tsrl rnnathy

with the people who plead fo the mothsr*teacher'a light to keep m In her

ion on »he _i-. und .- everywoman oughl to le allowed toprofeeeion 01 trad«, aomel .- to k»epher In touch with the world?"The question of th.- tea» h» r s RtOBM to

teach Is the whole qui » «.ai<j"Th.- children of th'- msi«l.-ration. Hut peraonaU) I -ant geewl.-. a woman with I home end childshould feel 1 of it1 he... .... -a_¡hasn't a career '«.eep intouch with the world. Why, leJd Mi«»Ts. bell, "i «ion» see I bo helpkecpinK in touch with the a

MISS BLAKE HAS DEFINITE REA3

lliffl Katherine D H SkiPubll« 9 ed thai n ».<.

peri» n-e of teachers .... p\Interfere with efficient efl I ha'-ehad teachers In my a h« ehtt>dren »«f school age." she -i i hada clerk In my office e hoyesrs old could n- rer that thaibaby binden -i !.. la her m

a good clerk Wh), th« m» o ikeep the teacher-mother up to th« mark..«'he wants :.. earn I. and thilittle i"--: le in h»ti-.e mark DOM ¦:'¦"¦ that Bteacher with B B

.¦. for a

eating? Bhe'd have pandemonium Inlive minutes if sh« <i;d"When b teacher sp*

tot i year for pui-poeea of study,or on account of «l<*kness. or to I-ear a

witho'Jtpay. The schools save mom

cause, while Bh« *---ts H,3M or $'.-¦*.¦ a year.her substitut- getfl ; If theboerd la trilling to bsv«tascher who is Btud-vvillir.tr to sa\e OH a te,- ***_*»

blld The board ergu i that fre¬quent « teachers do Mlet the chaagee ta made at the beginningof the term, then they «*an «lo no

"It Is really the policy of tho I

Education," added Miss Btaka, "te Se*courag« w» rten teachers They .¦.'Hiniy

«m frpm the best p.ti-t « In

fty-eevenprincipal« than In Ml in i'«*»i then sennearly thirty !. ¦ menIMS. It looks like the «** a

movement t.. crush women t«out of the best p

WHY WOMENT WANT TO VOTE.He aus« they sr huí i

respood to tl s moving spirit of Ui t.tne

and s***nerstion.Because they, irltta ill dsi m

h i\.* taen drawn IntoSawing toward deraocra .¦

tee, like tl-..- menli/.ed .ountry in the lasthave heard the call Iaetf-governnH« catlSB they w «sh to r<

. ntnrtif o\> ry reelB» auec they are I

Belf-governm« nt.H- t :s.- the) w -sh . them-

-j.!v.-s Wr-

CLUBLANDSaturday, December .. .it **'r"Pairneld Mortlmore cl n - ***tertainment « ommlttee, ¦« ll *'*¦.

M:s. Writ-lit B. Ha'* ol thebridge rooms; Mrs. w Bird <'£* o(tta euchre rooms; lira H. Crou .'¦'. TOPtie, Mm. Silas BOOtwii -.. IHolies, Mrs Loren M Burdlck M i. Her-vey l>. < 'ronk, Mrs. Th I R*

i« n lee Bnninger, lira .'«i«.« k, Mi.». .... r B9*M9L'aroUnePatteraon. M leOra eB IValfcar,Miss Gertrude Upe enWade. Tlcketfl ma- B th*chairman at her reeldentte, No ^'<'-I22d street

The n. w AssemMy, II **fourni.-i. mol at tta Plan irsdey«November to, ai l p. m., wlwas givtm before an audit nee <

and tu« sis

The regular meeting of K .*¦*.**.

Chapter, D. a i: , waat the home of M«s Simon Bai Vl *"¦

IVeet "»th Btreet A short blag wa» followed by a so- la

At ¦ meeting of tta CsllfornlTuesday lira. Vivian,the program st I si by Intr» du« il ,ilê»Club Ctairman ol Californie history. "*.a. a. Fish.-r. who gar« the origin of ttaBear Flag, and a recital of tta ir« ¦,rln'cipal .«vents ->f htatory whl» h th« itat« h

aeemingly sow Risking for Itself P^oll«*"**m», this. Mrs Alke Moore McComas C**-B ten-niiinitc talk on rri.ni -*\ri'.ti.

AlBOng oth.i topics t'litched U|th« Loa An,.!, s Aqueduct, tta Sew YorkAqueduct, tta Parcele «Post msrrlmwomen as teachers and BUffTSgaThe afternoon -dosed erlth a welcome

t» the foiiiiwing caltferale gueets: «¦*Del Vallo and Mi»s Del Valla- iMO An"

»getes, Mrs. i..»ms c. Kan..:'. tacram-***Mis. William W'al-rf». .Ir Mbnterey, Mi*1**Minima TSSSSIIH. Misa H A. Webmhtxlira C. -i. Kalghla, Mrs w. L llurpbfiMis. Homer BOUOtay, Mr.« Auna H. WW"«¦»>x. all «»1 lea Kran.-is.o Mrs. V. I Rl5*

ley, Mrs. C. I.ulan.i. Oaklaii'l. and 9*MRuth M Reeves, >»f Redlsnda A»"1111*many others presi nt wer« Mmea Thorns*MclUvatne. »* .1. Wimple. Jam-- F B«CSSH. U H.-wett. H B. Martin. EUH H°w"land, «'baríes P, »iiay, Oeorg« f't'*'l«l"'rt*'W. C, Bennett, John V. »mith. Ori*«taEvans, E. C Spooner, and ilra. MinervaC. WeJoh of Denver.