RedSymphony,byDr.J.Landowsky;translatedbyGeorge KnupfferPeterMyers,December31,2003;updateDecember15,2008.Mycommentswithinquotedtextareindicated{thus};writetomeatcontact.html. Youareathttp://mailstar.net/redsymphony.html. HenryMakowputanimagefileofpp.2756ofRedSymphonyonhissiteat http://www.savethemales.ca/redsymphony2.pdf However,thisisthefirsttimethatthefulltexthasbeenplacedontheinternet,asatextfile,and thereforeeasilysearchable. Iknowofnowayofprovingtheveracityofthismaterial.Butitdoesbearonthefactthat Communismseemstobecontinuing,despitethefalloftheUSSR. OpenBorders,GayMarriage(sexsoviet.html),theWorldCourt,"Hate"Lawswhichsuppressopen discussion,thesearethesigns.TheKyotoProtocolisanother;whateveritsmerits,itisan instrumentofWorldGovernment.ThesearepoliciesoftheTrotskyist/Fabian/Green"NewLeft". Publicownershipisnotafeature;yettheTrotskyistsinAustraliapublishedabookcallingforFree Trade.TheleadersofthedemonstrationsagainstCapitalism,themselvesurgedthedismantlingof theprotectiveeconomyweusedtohave: "Perhapstheworstaspectoftheadoptionofprotectionismasapolicyforfightingunemploymentis thatitisseenasasubstituteforaclassstruggleapproach"(SocialismorNationalism,p.29): xTrots.html. ThebookletcalledHitler'sSecretBackers,by"SidneyWarburg",likethestatementsattributedto RavokskyinRedSymphony,atteststhatWesternbankersgavemoneytoHitlertohelphimgetinto power. InRedSymphony,"Rakovsky",interrogatedbyStalin'sagentsin1938,statesthatthereasonforthis wasthattheseJewishbankers,havingestablishedBolshevism,hadfounditstolenfromthemby Stalin,a"Bonapartist"akintoNapoleon(p.36). ThebankersweretryingtopromoteInternationalCommunism,Trotskybeingtheirman;Rakovsky himselfwasintheircamp. ButStalinwaspromotingNationalCommunism.Thatsystemhadtobebroughtdown,sothat InternationalCommunismcouldberestored.Themeansofbringingitdown,wasbyassistingthe riseofHitler. Hitler'sSecretBackerssays(inthecommentarypartattheend)thatthebankersdidnotthinkthat HitlerwouldimplementhisrhetoricaboutexcludingJews.TheydisagreedwiththeantiGerman boycottinauguratedbytheNewYorkZionists,andfeltthatthisinducedHitlertoinstituteharsh measuresagainstJews. InHitler'sSecretBackers,thebankers'motivesarestatedasbeing,notconnectedwithTrotsky,but angeratFranceforitsinsistenceoncontinuedGermanrepaymentstoitinGold,aspertheTreatyof Versailles.ThesepaymentswerekeepingGermanyparalysed,andwithittheEuropeaneconomy. Butitcouldbearguedifthebookletbegenuineinsomewaythatthisismerelytheexcusethe bankerstoldtotheircourier,"SidneyWarburg". Hitler'sSecretBackersisavailableathttp://www.omnicbc.com. InRedSymphony,RakovskystatesthatJewishBankersgavemoneytoHitlertohelphimgetinto

power(p.36),knowingthathewouldattacktheSovietUnion(aslaidoutinMeinKampf).These donationswereanonymous;HitlerhadnoideathatthesourcewasJewishFinance. InkeepingwiththestrategyofRevolutionaryDefeatism,Stalinwouldfall,uponlosingthewar,as theTsarhadfallenafterlosingWorldWarI,andTrotskywouldberestoredtopower(p.36). TheychangedtheirmindsbecauseHitler'sdestructionoftheSovietUnionwouldmean(they decided,afterseeinghiminpower)nottherestorationofTrotsky,buttheabolitionofCommunism altogether;whereastheiraimwastokeepCommunismgoing.Despitethisswitch,theystillhoped toerasetheStalinist"National"variety:"weshallsucceedintakingitoverandthenconvertingit intorealCommunism"(p.37). TheinterrogatorsaystoRakovsky,"ifyourdefeatismandthedefeatoftheUSSRhasasitsobject therestorationofSocialismintheUSSR,realSocialism,accordingtoyouTrotzkyism,then, insofaraswehavedestroyedtheirleadersandcadres,defeatismandthedefeatoftheUSSRhas neitheranobjectivenoranysense.Asaresultofdefeatnowtherewouldcometheenthronement ofsomeFhrerorfascistTsar"(p.11). . Rakovskyagreeswiththisassessment;theMoscowPurgesthusprovidesarationaleforthebankers' changeofplan. Inkeepingwiththischange,Rakovskysays,theywantStalintoproposetoHitlerthepartitionof Poland.Asaresult,HitlerwouldfindhimselfatwarwiththeWest,andeventuallyinawarontwo fronts. Inthelate1930s,Trotskywasafugitive.AfterwritingTheRevolutionBetrayedinNorwayin1936 (itwaspublishedin1937)trotsky.html,TrotskywasforcedtoleaveNorway,andfoundrefugein Mexico. PressurefromStalinpersuadedmostgovernmentstorefusehimentry.EventheUnitedStates,with Rooseveltinpower,shutitsdoors. ThiswouldcastdoubtonRedSymphony'sclaimthatRooseveltandTrotskywereleadingfiguresin thesameconspiracy.However,theUSGovernmentwantedtomaintaindiplomaticrelationswiththe SovietGovernment,especiallysinceHitlerwasinpowerinGermany. TwoyearsaftertheallegedinterrogationinRedSymphonytookplace,StalinhadTrotskymurdered, ensuringthatnorestorationcouldoccur. WhilstTrotsky'smurderiswellknown,Stalin'smurderiscoveredup,becauseitinvolvesJewish politics:deathofstalin.html. TherearetwoanachronismsintheEnglisheditionofRedSymphony.Itsaysitisarecordof interviewswhichtookplacein1938,butmentionstheWorldBank(p.24),whichwasnot establisheduntil1944.HoweverCsarMartnezFeijoo,aSpaniardwhoownsacopyoftheoriginal Spanishversion,saysthattheSpanisheditionmakesnomentionoftheWorldBank;amuchbetter translationintoEnglishwouldbe:"whooccupiesapoliticalpositionorapositioninworldbanks". Seeitem(11)ADatingAnomaly?formoreonthis.#anomaly TheEnglisheditionofRedSymphonyalsospeaksof"theCommonwealth"(p.39);butsurelyitwas knownasthe"BritishEmpire"in1938? However,CarrollQuigleywroteinTheAngloAmericanEstablishmentthat'theRhodessecret society'(p.4)'publicizedtheideaofandthename"BritishCommonwealthofNations"intheperiod 19081918'(p.5).quigley.html LionelCurtis,aleadingideologistoftheEmpire,andamemberofRhodes'secretsociety,published

in1916abooktitledTheCommonwealthofNations:AnInquiryintotheNatureofCitizenshipin theBritishEmpire,andintotheMutualRelationsoftheSeveralCommunitiesThereof,PARTI (MacMillanandCo,London,1916).curtis1.html RedSymphonypointsoutthatPoint6ofWilson's14PointswelcomedtheUSSRinto"thesocietyof freenations",andoffereditassistance,thusunderminingthe"White"sideduringtheCivilWar. RedSymphonysaystheJewishfinancierspromoting"real"Communism(notStalin'sBonapartism) are"Spinosists",followersofthenaturalmysticismofBaruchSpinosa.Thisisareformulationfor ourtimes,ofJewishreligiousphilosophy;Hegelianismisavulgarisedversionofit. SpinozaestablishedtheatheisticvariantoftheJewishreligion:spinozapantheism.html. (1)RedSymphony(2)HitlermanipulatedbyBankerswhoseagendahedidn'tunderstandHenry Makow(3)IsaacDeutscheronthepossibilitythatHitler'swarwouldleadtoTrotsky'sreturn(4) DavidNorthontheConsequencesofTrotsky'sDefeat(5)Rakovsky'sevidenceattheMoscowTrials (6)OnTrotsky'ssecondwife,NatalyaSedova(7)Rakovsky'scredibilityattheMoscowTrials(8) IlluminatusandtheIlluminoids"RowanBerkeley"onRedSymphony(9)TrotskyinNorway, accusedofcooperatingwiththeGestapo(10)TrotskycallsStalinaBonapartist(11)ADating Anomaly?

(1)RedSymphony{p.i}REDSYMPHONY byDr.J.Landowsky AstranslatedbyGeorgeKnupffer ChristianBookClubofAmericaP.O.Box900566Palmdale,CA935900566 2002 {p.ii}FirstPrinted1968Reprinted2002 PrintedintheU.S.A. {p.1}REDSYMPHONY. J.Landowsky. Translator:GeorgeKnupffer. FOREWORD ThematerialheregivenisatranslationofCh.XLofabookwhichappearedinMadridinSpanish as"SinfoniaenRojoMayor,"andisnowpastits11thEdition,producedbyEditorialE.R.S.A.under thewellknownpublisherSenorDonMauricioCarlavilla,whohasverykindlyagreedtothis Englishtranslationandpublication.Assoonaspossiblethefullbookofover800pp.willfollow. Thegivenchapterisofimmenseimportance.ItisheretranslatedfromaRussianeditionaswellas fromtheSpanish.Itisacompletematerialonitsown. Thetranslator'sownbookon"TheStruggleforWorldPower"alsodealswiththewholeproblemof superpowerandglobalenslavementthroughthemastersofbothusuryCapitalismandterroristic Communism,whichareboththetoolsofthesameforcesandservingthesamepurpose.The bookhasbeenpublishedinMadridinSpanishbySenorCarlavillaas"LaLuchaporelPoder Mundial." Inthepresentworkweseethiswholestorybrilliantlydescribedandprovedbyoneofthemajor exponentsofthesubversivetakeoveroftheworld,ChristianG.Rakovsky,oneofthefoundersof

SovietBolshevismandalsoavictimoftheshowtrialsjustbeforethelastwarunderStalin.Thisis adocumentofhistoricalimportanceandnobodywhowantstobewellinformedshouldfailtoread andrecommendit.Nottoknowthethesisheredescribedistoknowandunderstandnothing concerningthechiefeventsandprospectsofourtime. IntheSpanishbookSenorCarlavillaexplainstheoriginofthematerialinquestion.Hesays: "ThisistheresultofapainstakingtranslationofseveralcopybooksfoundonthebodyofDr. LandowskyinahutonthePetrogradfront(Leningrad)byaSpanishvolunteer. "Hebroughtthemtous.Inviewoftheconditionofthemanuscripts,theirrestorationwasalongand tiringjob,lastingseveralyears.Foralongtimewewerenotsureiftheycouldbepublished.So extraordinaryandunbelievablewerehisfinaldisclosuresthatwewouldneverhavedaredtopublish thesememoirsifthepersonsandeventsmentionedhadnotaccordedfullywiththefacts. "Beforethesereminiscencessawthelightofdaywepreparedourselvesforproofsandpolemics.We answerfullyandpersonallyfortheveracityofthebasicfacts. "Letusseeifanyonewillbeabletodisprovethem..." Dr.LandowskywasaRussianizedPoleandlivedinRussia.Hisfather,aColoneloftheRussian ImperialArmy,wasshotbytheBolsheviksduringthe1917revolution.ThelifestoryofDr. Landowskyisastonishing.HefinishedtheFacultyofMedicineinRussiabefore {p.2}therevolutionandthenstudiedtwoyearsattheSorbonneinParis,andhespokefluent French.Hewasinterestedintheeffectsofdrugsonthehumanorganism,tohelpsurgeonsin operations.Beingatalenteddoctor,hecarriedoutexperimentsinthisfieldandhadachieved considerableresults. However,aftertherevolutionallroadswereclosedtohim.Helivedwithhisfamilyingreatneed, earningalivingbychancejobs.Notbeingabletopublishlearnedpapersinhisownname,he permittedamorefortunatecolleaguetopublishtheminhisownname. TheallseeingNKVD(secretpolice)becameinterestedintheseworksandeasilydiscoveredthe realauthor.Hisspecialitywasveryvaluableforthem.Onedayin1936therewasaknockatthe doctor'sdoor.Hewasinvitedtofollow,andhewasneveragainallowedtorejoinhisfamily.Hewas placedinthebuildingofthechemicallaboratoryoftheNKVDnearMoscow.Helivedthereand wasforcedtocarryoutvariousjobsgivenhimbyhismasters,hewasawitnessatquestionings, torturesandthemostterriblehappeningsandcrimes.Twicehewasabroad,butalwaysunder control,asaprisoner.Heknewandsufferedmuch,especiallyashewasadecentandreligious man.Hehadthecouragetokeepnotesofwhathehasseenandheard,andhekeptwhenever possiblesuchdocumentsandlettersaspassedthroughhishands,hidingallthisinthehollowlegs ofhistableinthechemicallaboratory.SoheliveduntiltheSecondWorldWar.Howhecameto Petrogradandhowhewaskilledisnotknown. Thedocumentgivenbelowisanexactrecordedreportofthequestioningoftheformer AmbassadorinFrance,C.G.RakovskyduringtheperiodofthetrialsoftheTrotzkyistsinthe USSRin1938,whenhewastriedtogetherwithBukharin,Rykoff,Yagoda,Karakhan,Dr.Levin andothers. InsofarastheaccusedRakovskymadeitclear,havinginmindthesparingofhislife,thathe couldgiveinformationaboutmattersofveryspecialinterest,Stalingaveorderstohisforeign agenttocarryoutthequestioning. ItisknownthatRakovskywassentencedtobeshot,liketheothers,butwasreprievedandgiven20

yearsofprison. Veryinterestingisthedescriptionoftheabovementionedagent.ThiswasacertainRenDuval (alsoknownasGavriilGavriilovitchKus'min),thesonofamillionaire,verygoodlookingand talented.HestudiedinFrance.Hiswidowedmotheradoredhim.Buttheyoungmanwascarried awaybyCommunistpropagandaandfellintothehandsoftheiragency.Theysuggestedthathe shouldstudyinMoscow,andhegladlyacceptedtheproposal.Hepassedthroughthesevereschool oftheNKVDandbecameaforeignagent,andwhenhewantedtochangehismind,itwastoolate. Theydonotletpeopleoutoftheirgrip.Bytheexerciseofwillpowerhereachedthe"heightsof evil,"ashecalledit,andenjoyedthefullconfidenceofStalinhimself. ThequestioningtookplaceinFrenchbythisagent.Thedoctorwaspresentinordertoput drugpillsunnoticedintotheglassofRakovsky,toinduceenergyandagoodmood.Behindthe walltheconversationwasregisteredonapparatus,andthetechnicianwhooperateditdidnot understandFrench.ThenDr.Landowskyhadtotranslate {p.3}intoRussian,withtwocopies,forStalinandGabriel.Secretlyhedaredtomakeathird carboncopy,whichhehidaway. *** XL XRAYOFREVOLUTION Ireturnedtothelaboratory.MynervoussystembotheredmeandIprescribedmyselfcompleterest. Iaminbedalmostthewholeday.HereIamquitealoneforalreadyfourdays. Gabrielenquiredaboutmeeveryday.Hehastoreckonwithmycondition.Atthemerethoughtthat theycouldagainsendmetotheLubianka(MoscowHQofthesecretpolice)tobepresentata newsceneofterrorIbecomeexcitedandtremble.Iamashamedofbelongingtothehuman race.Howlowhavepeoplefallen!HowlowhaveIfallen! *** TheselinesareallIwasabletowriteafterfivedaysfollowingmyreturnfromtheLubianka,when tryingtodescribeonpaperthehorror,andtherebyinterruptingthechronologicalorderofmynotes. Icouldnotwrite.Onlyafterseveralmonths,whenSummerbegan,Iwasablecalmlyandsimplyto setoutallthatIhadseen,disgusting,vicious,evil. DuringthesepastmonthsIaskedmyselfathousandtimesthesamequestion:"Whowerethe peoplewhowereanonymouslypresentatthetorture?"Istrainedallmyintuitiveanddeductive capabilities.WasitEzhov?Itispossible,butIseenoreasonwhyheshouldhaveconcealedhimself. Officiallyheisresponsibleandthefearwhichmadehimhidedoesnotleadtoalogicalexplanation. Evenmore:ifIhaveanyreasonfordescribingmyselfasapsychologist,thenthisfanatic,thechief oftheNKVD,withsignsofabnormality,wouldbecertaintoenjoyacriminaldisplay.Suchthings astheexpressionofhaughtinessinfrontofahumbledenemy,whohadbeenconvertedintoawreck psychologicallyandphysically,shouldhavegivenhimanunhealthypleasure.Ianalyzedstillfurther. Theabsenceofpriorpreparationwasobvious;evidentlythedecisiontocallthissatanicsessionhad beentakeninahurry.ThecircumstancethatIhadbeenappointedtobepresentwastheresult ofasuddenagreement.IfEzhovhadbeenabletochosethetimefreely,thentimelypreparations wouldhavebeenmade.AndthenIwouldnothavebeencalled;thatgeneraloftheNKVDwhowas hardlyabletocomeintime,forthepurposeofbeingpresentatthetorture,wouldhaveknownabout thisbeforehand.IfthiswasnotEzhov,thenwhohaddecidedonthetime?Whichotherchiefwas abletoarrangeitall?HoweverpooraremyinformationsabouttheSoviethierarchy,butabove

EzhovinaffairsalongthelineoftheNKVDthereisonlyonemanStalin.Thereforeitwashe? Askingmyselfthesequestions,whicharosefrommydeductions,Irememberedyetotherfactsin supportofmyopinion.IrememberedthatwhenIlookedfromthewindowoverthesquareafew minutesbeforewewentdowntothe"spectacle"Isawhowtheredroveacrossitfourlargeidentical cars;allweSovietpeopleknowthatStalintravelsinacaravanofidenticalmachines,sothat nobodywouldknowinwhichheissitting,tomakeattackmoredifficult.Washethere?... ButhereIcameacrossanothermystery:accordingtothedetailswhichGabrielgaveme,thehidden observersweretositbehindour {p.4}back.ButthereIcouldonlyseealongmirror,throughwhichnothingcouldbeseen.Perhaps itwastransparent?Iwaspuzzled. *** OnlysevendayspassedwhenonemorningGabrielappearedinthehouse.Ifoundthathehadan energeticandenthusiasticappearanceandwasinanoptimisticmood.Yettheseflashesofhappiness whichlituphisfaceatfirst,didnotreturnlater.Itseemedasifhewantedchaseawaytheshadows whichpassedoverhisfacebyincreasedactivityandmentalexertion.Afterlunchhetoldme: "Wehaveaguesthere." "Whoisit"Iasked. "Rakovsky,theformerAmbassadorinParis." "Idonotknowhim." "HeisoneofthosewhomIpointedouttoyouonthatnight;theformerAmbassadorinLondonand Paris...OfcourseabigfriendofyouracquaintanceNavachin...Yes,thismanisatmydisposal.He isherewithus;heisbeingwelltreatedandlookedafter.Youshallseehim." "I,why?YouknowwellthatIamnotcuriousaboutmattersofthiskind...Iwouldaskyouto sparemethissight;Iamstillnotquitewellafterwhatyouhadforcedmetosee.Icannotguarantee mynervoussystemandheart." "Oh,donotworry.Nowwearenotconcernedwithforce.Thismanhasalreadybeenbroken. Noblood,noforce.Itisonlynecessarytogivehimmoderatedosesofdrugs.HereIhavebrought youdetails:theyarefromLevin*{footnote}whostillservesuswithhisknowledge.Apparently thereisacertaindrugsomewhereinthelaboratory,whichcanworkwonders." "Youbelieveallthis?" "Iamspeakinginsymbolicform.Rakovskyisinclinedtoconfesstoeverythingheknowsaboutthe matter.Wehavealreadyhadapreliminarytalkwithhim,andtheresultsarenotbad." "Inthatcasewhyisthereaneedforamiraculousdrug?" "Youwillsee,doctor,youwillsee.Thisisasmallsafetymeasure,dictatedbytheprofessional experienceofLevin.Itwillhelptoachievethatourmanbeingquestionedwouldfeeloptimistic andwouldnotlosehopeandfaith.Hecanalreadyseeachanceofsavinghislifeasalongshot. Thisisthefirsteffectwhichwemustattain.Thenwemustmakesurethathewouldallthetime remaininastateoftheexperienceofthedecisivehappymoment,butwithoutlosinghismental capacities;moreexactly,itwillbenecessarytostimulateandsharpenthem.Hemusthaveinduced inhimaquitespecialfeeling.Howcanoneexpressit?Moreexactlyaconditionofenlightened stimulation." "Somethinglikehypnosis?"

"Yes,butwithoutsleepiness." "AndImustinventadrugforallthis?Ithinkyouexaggeratemyscientifictalents.Icannotachieve it." {footnote}*FormerNKVDdoctor,wasacodefendantwithRakovskyatthetrial.{endfootnote} {p.5}"Yes,butitisunnecessarytoinventanything,doctor.AsforLevin,heassertsthatthe problemhasalreadybeensolved." "Healwaysleftmewiththeimpressionofbeingsomethingofacharlatan..." "Probablyyes,butIthinkthatthedrughehasmentioned,evenifitisnotaseffectiveasheclaims, willstillhelpustoachievethenecessary;afterall,weneednotexpectamiracle.Alcohol,against ourwill,makesusspeaknonsense.Whycannotanothersubstanceencourageustosaythe reasonabletruth?Apartfromthat,Levinhadtoldmeofpreviouscases,whichseemtobe genuine." "Whydoyounotwanttoforcehimtotakepartinthisaffaironcemore?Orwillherefusetoobey?" "Ohno,hewouldliketo.Itisenoughtowanttosaveortoextendyourlifewiththehelpofthisor anotherservice,fornotrefusing.ButitisImyselfwhodoesnotwanttousehisservices. HemustnothearanythingofthatwhichRakovskywilltellme.Nothe,notanyone... "ThereforeI..." "Youthatisanothermatter,doctor.Youareadeeplydecentperson.ButIamnotDiogenes,torush tolookforanotheroverthesnowydistancesoftheUSSR." "Thankyou,butIthinkthatmyhonesty..." "Yes,doctor,yes;yousaythatwetakeadvantageofyourhonestyforvariousdepravities.Yes, doctor,thatisso...;butitisonlysofromyourabsurdpointofview.Andwhoisattractedtodayby absurdities?Forexamplesuchanabsurdityasyourhonesty?Youalwaysmanagetoleadoneaway towardsconversationaboutmostattractivethings.Butwhat,infact,willtakeplace?Youmustonly helpmetogivethecorrectdosesofLevin'sdrug.Itwouldappearthatinthedosagethereisan invisiblelinewhichdividessleepfromastateofactivity,aclearconditionfromabefoggedone, goodsensefromnonsense...;therecancomeanartificialexcessiveenthusiasm." "Ifthatisall..." "Andyetsomethingelse.Nowweshallspeakseriously.StudytheinstructionsofLevin,weigh them,adaptthemreasonablytotheconditionandstrengthoftheprisoner.Youhavetimefor studyuntilnightfall;youcanexamineRakovskyasoftenasyouwish.Andthatisallforthe moment.YouwouldnotbelievehowterriblyIwanttosleep.Ishallsleepafewhours.Ifbyevening nothingextraordinaryhappensthenIhavegiveninstructionsthatIamnottobecalled.Iwould adviseyoutohaveagoodrestafterdinner,becauseafterthatitwillnotbepossibletosleepfora longtime." Weenteredthevestibule.Havingtakenhisleavefrommehequicklyranupthestairs,butinthe middlehehalted. "Ah,doctorheexclaimedIhadforgotten.ManythanksfromComradeEzhov.Expecta present,perhapsevenadecoration." Hewavedmegoodbyeandrapidlydisappearedonthestaircaselandingofthetopfloor. ***

ThenotesofLevinwereshort,butclearandexact.Ihadnodifficultyinfindingthemedicine.It wasindosesofamilligramin {p.6}tinytablets.Imadeatestand,inaccordancewithhisexplanation,theydissolvedveryeasily inwaterandbetterstillinalcohol.Theformulawasnotindicatedthere,andIdecidedlatertomake adetailedanalysis,whenIshallhavethetime. UndoubtedlyitwassomesubstanceofthespecialistLumenstadt,thatscientistofwhomLevinhad spokentomeduringthefirstmeeting.IdidnotthinkIwoulddiscoverduringanalysissomething unexpectedornew.Probablyagainsomebasewithaconsiderableamountofopiumofamoreactive kindthantebain.Iwaswellacquaintedwith19maintypesandsomemorebesides.Inthose practicalconditionsinwhichmyexperimentswereconductedIwassatisfiedwiththosefactswhich myinvestigationshadyielded. Althoughmyworkhadanaltogetherdifferentdirection,yetIwasquiteathomeintherealmof hallucinatorysubstances.IrememberedthatLevinhadtoldmeofthedistillationofraretypesof IndianHemp.Iwasboundtobedealingwithopiumorhashish,inordertopenetratethesecretof thismuchpraiseddrug.Iwouldhavebeengladtohavehadtheopportunityofcomingacrossoneor morenewbaseswhichgaverisetohis"miraculous"qualities.InprincipleIwaspreparedtoassume suchapossibility.Afteralltheworkofinvestigationinconditionsofunlimitedtimeandmeans, whilenothavingtoreckonwitheconomiclimitations,whichwaspossibleinconditionsofthe NKVD,providedunlimitedscientificpossibilities.Iflatteredmyselfwiththeillusionofbeingable tofind,astheresultoftheseinvestigations,anewweaponinmyscientificfightagainstpain. Icouldnotgivemuchtimetothediversionofsuchpleasantillusions.Iconcentratedmythoughtsin ordertothinkhowandinwhatproportionIshallhavetogiveRakovskythisdrug.Accordingtothe instructionsofLevin,onetabletwouldhavetoproducethedesiredresult.Hewarnedthatifthe patienthadanyheartweaknesstherecouldfollowsleepinessandevencompletelethargy,witha consequentdimmingofthemind.Whilebearingallthisinmind,Ihadfirstofalltoexamine Rakovsky.Ididnotexpecttofindtheinternalconditionofhishearttobenormal.Iftherewereno damage,thensurelytherewouldbealoweringoftoneastheresultofthenervousexperiences,as hissystemcouldnothaveremainedunchangedafteralongandterrifyingtorture. Iputofftheexaminationuntilafterlunch.Iwantedtoconsidereverything,bothforthecasethat GabrielwouldwanttogivethedrugwiththeknowledgeofRakovsky,asalsowithouthis knowledge.InbothcasesIwouldhavetobusymyselfwithhim,insofarasImyselfwouldhaveto givehimthedrugofwhichIhadbeentoldconcretely.Therewasnoneedfortheparticipationofa professional,asthedrugwasgivenbymouth. AfterlunchIwenttovisitRakovsky.Hewaskeptlockedupinoneroomofthegroundfloorand wasguardedbyoneman,whodidnottakehiseyesoffhim.Offurnituretherewasonlyonesmall table,anarrowbedwithoutendsandanothersmall,roughtable.WhenIenteredRakovskywas sitting.Heimmediatelygotup.HelookedatmecloselyandIreadinhisfacedoubtand,itseemed, alsofright.Ithinkhemusthaverecognizedme,havingseenmewhenhesatthatmemorablenight atthesideofthegenerals. Iorderedtheguardtoleaveandtoldhimtobringmeachair. {p.7}Isatdownandaskedtheprisonertosit.Hewasabout50yearsold.Hewasamanofmedium height,baldinfront,withalarge,fleshynose.Inyouthhisfacewasprobablypleasant.Hisfacial outlineswerenottypicallysemitic,buthisoriginwasneverthelessclear.Onceuponatimehe wasprobablyquitefat,butnotnow,andhisskinhungeverywhere,whilehisfaceandneckwerelike aburstballoon,withtheairletout.TheusualdinnerattheLubiankawasapparentlytoostrictadiet fortheformerAmbassadorinParis.AtthatmomentImadenofurtherobservations.

"Yousmoke?"Iasked,openingthecigarettecase,withtheintentionofestablishingsomewhatmore intimaterelationswithhim. "Igaveupsmokinginordertopreservemyhealth"herepliedwithaverypleasanttoneofvoice, "butIthankyou;IthinkIhavenowrecoveredfrommystomachtroubles." Hesmokedquietly,withrestraintandnotwithoutsomeelegance. "Iamadoctor"Iintroducedmyself. "YesIknowthat;Isawhowyouacted'there'"hesaidwithtremblingvoice. "Icametoenquireaboutthestateofyourhealth.Howareyou?Doyousufferfromanyillness?" "No,nothing." "Areyousure?Whataboutyourheart?" "ThankstotheresultsofenforceddietingIdonotobserveinmyselfanyabnormalsymptoms." "Therearesomewhichcannotbenoticedbythepatienthimself,butonlybyadoctor." "Iamadoctor"heinterruptedme. "Adoctor?"Irepeatedinsurprise. "Yes,didn'tyouknow?" "Nobodyhadtoldmeofit.Icongratulateyou.Ishallbeverygladtobeofusetoacolleagueand, possibly,afellowstudent.Wheredidyoustudy?InMoscoworPetrograd?" "Ohno!AtthattimeIwasnotaRussiansubject.IstudiedinNancyandMontpellier;inthelatterI receivedmydoctorate." "Thismeansthatwemayhavestudiedatthesametime;IdidseveralcoursesinParis.Wereyou French?" "IintendedtobecomeFrench.IwasbornaBulgarian,butwithoutaskingmypermissionIwas convertedintoaRumanian.MyprovincewasDobrudga,whereIwasborn,andafterthepeace treatyitwenttoRumania." "Permitmetolistentoyourchest"andIputthestethoscopeinmyears. Hetookoffhistornjacketandstoodup.Ilistened.Theexaminationshewednothingabnormal;asI hadassumed,weakness,butwithoutdefects. "Isupposeonemustgivefoodfortheheart." "Onlytheheart,comrade?"heaskedironically. {p.8}"Ithinkso"Isaid,pretendingnottohavenoticedtheirony,"Ithinkyourdiet,too,shouldbe strengthened." "Permitmetolistentomyself." "Withpleasure"andIgavehimthestethoscope. Hequicklylistenedtohimself. "Ihadexpectedthatmyconditionwouldbemuchworse.Manythanks.MayIputmyjacketon?" "Ofcourse.Letusagree,then,thatitisnecessarytotakeafewdropsofdigitalis,don'tyouthink?" "Youconsiderthatabsolutelyessential?Ithinkthatmyoldheartwillsurvivethefewdaysor monthswhichremaintomequitewell."

"Ithinkotherwise;Ithinkthatyouwilllivemuchlonger." "Donotupsetme,colleague...Tolivemore!Tolivestilllonger!...Theremustbeinstructionsabout theend;thecourtcasecannotlastlonger...Andthen,thenrest." Andwhenhesaidthis,havinginmindthefinalrest,itseemedthathisfacehadtheexpressionof happinessalmost.Ishuddered.Thiswishtodie,todiesoonwhichIreadinhiseyes,mademe faint.Iwantedtocheerhimupfromafeelingofcompassion. "Youhavenotunderstoodme,comrade.Iwantedtosaythatinyourcaseitmaybedecidedto continueyourlife,butlifewithoutsuffering.Forwhathaveyoubeenbroughthere?Doesonenot treatyouwellnow?" "Thelatter,yes,ofcourse.ConcerningtherestIhaveheardhints,but..." Igavehimanothercigaretteandthenadded: "Havehope.Formypartandtotheextentwhichmychiefwillallow,Ishalldoeverythingthatcan dependonme,tomakesurethatyoucometonoharm.Ishallbeginimmediatelybyfeedingyou, butnotexcessively,bearinginmindthestateofyourstomach.Weshallbeginwithamilkdietand somemoresubstantialadditions.Ishallgiveinstructionsatonce.Youmaysmoke...takesome..." andIlefthimeverythingthatremainedinthepacket. Icalledtheguardandorderedhimtolighttheprisoner'scigarettewheneverhewantstosmoke. ThenIleftandbeforehavingacoupleofhoursrestIgaveinstructionsthatRakovskywastohave halfalitreofmilkwithsugar. *** WepreparedforthemeetingwithRakovskyatmidnight.Its"friendly"characterwasstressedin allthedetails.Theroomwaswellwarmed,therewasafireinthefireplace,softlighting,a smallandwellchosensupper,goodwines;allhadbeenscientificallyimprovised."Asforalovers meeting,"observedGabriel.Iwastoassist.Mychiefresponsibilitywastogivetheprisonerthe druginsuchamannerthathewouldnotnoticeit.Forthispurposethedrinkshadbeenplacedas ifbychancenearme,andIshallhavetopouroutthewine.AlsoIwouldhavetoobservethe weakeningofthedrug'seffect,soastogiveanewdoseattherightmoment.Thiswasmymost importantjob.Gabrielwants,iftheexperimentsucceeds,togetalreadyatthefirstmeetingreal {p.9}progresstowardstheessenceofthematter.Heishopefulofsuccess.Hehashadagoodrest andisingoodcondition.IaminterestedtoknowhowhewillstrugglewithRakovskywho,itseems tome,isanopponentworthyofhim. Threelargearmchairswereplacedbeforethefire.Theonenearestthedoorisforme,Rakovsky willsitinthemiddle,andinthethirdwillbeGabriel,whohadshownhisoptimisticmoodevenin hisclothes,ashewaswearingawhiteRussianshirt. Ithadalreadystruckmidnightwhentheybroughttheprisonertous.Hehadbeengivendecent clothesandhadbeenwellshaved.Ilookedathimprofessionallyandfoundhimtobelivelier. Heaskstobeexcusedfornotbeingabletodrinkmorethanoneglass,mentioningtheweaknessof hisstomach.Ididnotputthedrugintothisglassandregrettedit. Theconversationbeganwithbanalities...GabrielknowsthatRakovskyspeaksmuchbetter FrenchthanRussianandbeginsinthatlanguage.Therearehintsaboutthepast.Itisclearthat Rakovskyisanexpertconversationalist.Hisspeechisexact,elegantandevendecorative.Heis apparentlyveryerudite;attimeshequoteseasilyandalwaysaccurately.Sometimeshehintsathis manyescapes,atexile,aboutLenin,Plekhanov,Luxemburg,andheevensaidthatwhenhewasa

boyhehadshakenthehandoftheoldEngels. Wedrinkwhisky.AfterGabrielhadgivenhimtheopportunityofspeakingforabouthalfanhour,I askedasifbychance:"ShouldIaddmoresodawater?""Yes,addenough"hereplied absentmindedly.Imanipulatedthedrinkanddroppedatabletintoit,whichIhadbeenholding fromtheverybeginning.FirstIgaveGabrielsomewhisky,lettinghimknowbyasignthatthejob hadbeendone.IgaveRakovskyhisglassandthenbegantodrinkmine.Hesippeditwithpleasure. "Iamasmallcad"Itoldmyself.Butthiswasapassingthoughtanditdissolvedinthepleasantfire inthefireplace. BeforeGabrielcametothemaintheme,thetalkhadbeenlongandinteresting. Ihadbeenfortunateinobtainingadocumentwhichreproducesbetterthanashorthandnoteallthat hadbeendiscussedbetweenGabrielandRakovsky.Hereitis: INFORMATION THEQUESTIONINGOFTHEACCUSEDCHRISTIANGEORGIEVITCHRAKOVSKYBY GAVRIILGAVRIILOVITCHKUS'MINONTHE26THJANUARY,1938. GavriilG.Kus'min.InaccordancewithouragreementattheLubianka,Ihadappealedforalast chanceforyou;yourpresenceinthishouseindicatesthatIhadsucceededinthis.Letusseeifyou willnotdeceiveus. ChristianG.Rakovsky.Idonotwishandshallnotdothat. G.Butfirstofall:awellmeantwarning.Nowweareconcernedwiththerealtruth.Notthe "official"truth,thatwhichistofigureatthetrialinthelightoftheconfessionsoftheaccused... Thisissomethingwhich,asyouknow,isfullysubjecttopracticalconsiderations,or"considerations ofState"astheywouldsayintheWest.The {p.10}demandsofinternationalpoliticswillforceustohidethewholetruth,the"real truth"...Whatevermaybethecourseofthetrial,butgovernmentsandpeopleswillonlybetold thatwhichtheyshouldknow.Buthewhomustknoweverything,Stalin,mustalsoknowallthis. Therefore,whatevermaybeyourwordsheretheycannotmakeyourpositionworse.Youmustknow thattheywillnotworsenyourcrimebut,onthecontrary,theycangivethedesiredresultsinyour favour.Youwillbeabletosaveyourlife,whichatthismomentisalreadylost.SonowIhave toldyouthis,butnowletussee:youwillalladmitthatyouareHitler'sspiesandreceivewages fromtheGestapoandOKW*{footnote}. Isthatnotso? R.Yes. G.AndyouareHitler'sspies? R.Yes. G.No,Rakovsky,no.Telltherealtruth,butnotthecourtproceedingsone. R.WearenotspiesofHitler,wehateHitlerasyoucanhatehim,asStalincanhatehim; perhapsevenmoreso,butthisisaverycomplexquestion. G.Ishallhelpyou...BychanceIalsoknowoneortwothings.You,theTrotzkyists,had contactswiththeGermanStaff.Isthatnotso? R.Yes. G.Fromwhichperiod?

R.Idonotknowtheexactdate,butsoonafterthefallofTrotzky.OfcoursebeforeHitler's comingtopower. G.Thereforeletusbeexact:youwereneitherpersonalspiesofHitler,norofhisregime. R.Exactly.Weweresuchalreadyearlier. G.Andforwhatpurpose?WiththeaimofgivingGermanyvictoryandsomeRussianterritories? R.No,innocase. G.Thereforeasordinaryspies,formoney? R.Formoney?NobodyreceivedasingleMarkfromGermany.Hitlerhasnotenoughmoneyto buy,forexample,theCommissarforForeignAffairsoftheUSSR,whohasathisdisposalfreelya budgetwhichisgreaterthanthetotalwealthofMorganandVanderbilt,andwhodoesnothaveto accountforhisuseofthemoney. G.Well,thenforwhatreason? R.MayIspeakquitefreely? G.Yes,Iaskyoutodoso;forthatreasonyouhavebeeninvited. R.DidnotLeninhavehigheraimswhenhereceivedhelpfromGermanyinordertoenter Russia?Andisitnecessarytoacceptastruethoselibellousinventionswhichhadbeencirculatedto accusehim?WashenotalsocalledaspyoftheKaiser?HisrelationswiththeEmperorandthe GermaninterventionintheaffairofthesendingtoRussiaoftheBolshevikdestroyersarequite clear. {footnote}*OKWOberkommandoderWehrmacht,SupremeCommandoftheGermanArmy Transl.{endfootnote} {p.11}G.Whetheritistrueornotdoesnothaveanybearingonthepresentquestion. R.No,permitmetofinish.IsitnotafactthattheactivityofLeninwasinthebeginning advantageoustotheGermantroops?Permitme...TherewastheseparatepeaceofBrestLitovsk, atwhichhugeterritoriesoftheUSSRwerecededtoGermany.Whohaddeclareddefeatismasa weaponoftheBolsheviksin1913?Lenin.IknowbyhearthiswordsfromhislettertoGorky: "WarbetweenAustriaandRussiawouldbeamostusefulthingfortherevolution,butitishardly possiblethatFrancisJosephandNicholaswouldpresentuswiththisopportunity."Asyousee,we, thesocalledTrotzkyists,theinventorsofthedefeatin1905,continueatthepresentstagethe sameline,thelineofLenin. G.Withasmalldifference,Rakovsky;atpresentthereisSocialismintheUSSR,nottheTsar. R.Youbelievethat? G.What? R.IntheexistenceofSocialismintheUSSR? G.IstheSovietUnionnotSocialist? R.Formeonlyinname.Itisjustherethatwefindthetruereasonfortheopposition.Agree withme,andbytheforceofpurelogicyoumustagree,thattheoretically,rationally,wehavethe samerighttosayno,asStalincansayyes.AndifforthetriumphofCommunismdefeatism canbejustified,thenhewhoconsidersthatCommunismhasbeendestroyedbythe bonapartismofStalinandthathebetrayedit,hasthesamerightasLenintobecomeadefeatist.

G.Ithink,Rakovsky,thatyouaretheorizingthankstoyourmannerofmakingwideuseof dialectics.Itisclearthatifmanypeoplewerepresenthere,Iwouldprovethis;allright,Iaccept yourargumentastheonlyonepossibleinyourposition,butneverthelessIthinkthatIcouldprove toyouthatthisisnothingotherthanasophism.Butletuspostponethisforanotheroccasion;some dayitwillcome.AndIhopethatyouwillgivemethechancetoreply.ButatthepresentmomentI shallonlysaythis:ifyourdefeatismandthedefeatoftheUSSRhasasitsobjecttherestorationof SocialismintheUSSR,realSocialism,accordingtoyouTrotzkyism,then,insofaraswehave destroyedtheirleadersandcadres,defeatismandthedefeatoftheUSSRhasneitheranobjective noranysense.AsaresultofdefeatnowtherewouldcometheenthronementofsomeFhreror fascistTsar.Isthatnotso? R.Itistrue.Withoutflatteryonmypartyourdeductionissplendid. G.Well,if,asIassume,youassertthissincerely,thenwehaveachievedagreatdeal:Iama StalinistandyouaTrotzkyist;wehaveachievedtheimpossible.Wehavereachedthepointat whichourviewscoincide.ThecoincidenceliesinthatatthepresentmomenttheUSSRmust notbedestroyed. R.ImustconfessthatIhadnotexpectedtofacesuchacleverperson.Infactatthepresentstage andforsomeyearswecannotthinkofthedefeatoftheUSSRandtoprovokeit,asitisknownthat weareatpresentinsuchaposition,thatwecannotseizepower.We,theCommunists,wouldderive noprofitfromit.Thisisexactandcoincides {p.12}withyourview.WecannotbeinterestednowinthecollapseoftheStalinistState;Isaythis andatthesametimeIassertthatthisState,apartfromallthathasbeensaid,isanti Communistic.YouseethatIamsincere. G.Iseethat.Thisistheonlywayinwhichwecancometoterms.Iwouldaskyou,beforeyou continue,toexplaintomethatwhichseemstomeacontradiction:iftheSovietStateisanti Communistictoyou,thenwhyshouldyounotwishitsdestructionatthegivenmoment? SomeoneelsemightbelessantiCommunisticandthentherewouldbefewerobstaclestothe restorationofyourpureCommunism. R.No,no,thisdeductionistoosimple.AlthoughtheStalinistbonapartismalsoopposes Communismasthenapoleoniconeopposedtherevolution,butthecircumstanceisclearthat, nevertheless,theUSSRcontinuestopreserveitsCommunisticformanddogma;thisisformal andnotrealCommunism.Andthus,likethedisappearanceofTrotzkygaveStalinthepossibility automaticallytotransformrealCommunismintotheformalone,soalsothedisappearanceof StalinwillallowustotransformhisformalCommunismintoarealone.Onehourwould sufficeforus.Haveyouunderstoodme? G.Yes,ofcourse;youhavetoldustheclassicaltruththatnobodydestroysthatwhichhewants toinherit.Well,allright;allelseissophisticalagility.Yourelyontheassumptionwhichcanbe easilydisproved:theassumptionofStalin'santiCommunism.Isthereprivatepropertyinthe USSR?Istherepersonalprofit?Classes?Ishallnotcontinuetobasemyselfonfactsforwhat? R.IhavealreadyagreedthatthereexistsformalCommunism.Allthatyouenumeratearemerely forms. G.Yes?Forwhatpurpose?Frommereobstinacy? R.Ofcoursenot.Thisisanecessity.Itisimpossibletoeliminatethematerialisticevolutionof history.Themostthatcanbedoneistoholditup.Andatwhataprice?Atthecostofitstheoretical acceptance,inordertodestroyitinpractice.TheforcewhichdrawshumanitytowardsCommunism

issounconquerablethatthatsameforce,butdistorted,opposedtoitself,canonlyachieveaslowing downofdevelopment;moreaccuratelytoslowdowntheprogressofthepermanentrevolution. G.Anexample? R.ThemostobviouswithHitler.HeneededSocialismforvictoryoverSocialism:itisthishis veryantiSocialistSocialismwhichisNationalSocialism.StalinneedsCommunisminorderto defeatCommunism.Theparallelisobvious.But,notwithstandingHitler'santiSocialismand Stalin'santiCommunism,both,totheirregretandagainsttheirwill,transcendentallycreate SocialismandCommunism...;theyandmanyothers.Whethertheywantitornot,whetherthey knowitornot,buttheycreateformalSocialismandCommunism,whichwe,theCommunist Marxists,mustinevitablyinherit. G.Inheritance?Whoinherits?Trotzkyismiscompletelyliquidated. R.Althoughyousayso,youdonotbelieveit.Howevergreatmaybetheliquidations,we Communistswillsurvivethem.Thelongarmof {p.13}StalinandhispolicecannotreachallCommunists. G.Rakovsky,Iaskyou,andifnecessarycommand,torefrainfromoffensivehints.Donotgotoo farintakingadvantageofyour"diplomaticimmunity." R.DoIhavecredentials?WhoseambassadoramI? G.PreciselyofthatunreachableTrotzkyism,ifweagreetocallhimso. R.IcannotbeadiplomatofTrotzkyism,ofwhichyouhint.Ihavenotbeengiventhatrightto representit,andIhavenottakenthisroleonmyself.Youhavegivenittome. G.Ibegintotrustyou.ItakenoteinyourfavourthatatmyhintaboutthisTrotzkyismyoudidnot denyit.Thisisalreadyagoodbeginning. R.ButhowcanIdenyit?Afterall,Imyselfmentionedit. G.InsofaraswehaverecognizedtheexistenceofthisspecialTrotzkyismbyourmutual arrangement,Iwantyoutogivedefinitefacts,whicharenecessaryfortheinvestigationofthegiven coincidence. R.Yes,IshallbeabletomentionthatwhichyouconsidernecessarytoknowandIshalldoiton myowninitiative,butIshallnotbeabletoassertthatthisisalwaysthethinkingalsoof "Them." G.Yes,Ishalllookonitlikethat. R.Weagreedthatatthepresentmomenttheoppositioncannotbeinterestedindefeatismandthe fallofStalin,insofaraswedonothavethephysicalpossibilityoftakinghisplace.Thisiswhatwe bothagree.Atpresentthisisanincontrovertiblefact.However,thereisinexistenceapossible aggressor.Thereheis,thatgreatnihilistHitler,whoisaimingwithhisterribleweaponofthe Wehrmachtatthewholehorizon.Whetherwewantitornot,buthewilluseitagainsttheUSSR? Letusagreethatforusthisisthedecisiveunknownfactor,doyouconsiderthattheproblemhas beencorrectlystated? G.Ithasbeenwellput.ButIcansaythatformethereisnounknownfactor.Iconsidertheattack ofHitlerontheUSSRtobeinevitable. R.Why? G.Verysimple;becausehewhocontrolsitisinclinedtowardsattack.Hitlerisonlythecondottiere

ofinternationalCapitalism. R.Iagreethatthereisadanger,butfromthattotheassumptiononthisgroundoftheinevitability ofhisattackontheUSSRthereisawholeabyss. G.TheattackontheUSSRisdeterminedbytheveryessenceofFascism.Inadditionheis impelledtowardsitbyallthoseCapitalistStateswhichhadallowedhimtorearmandtotakeallthe necessaryeconomicandstrategicalbases.Thisisquiteobvious. R.Youforgetsomethingveryimportant.TherearmamentofHitlerandtheassistancehe receivedatthepresenttimefromtheVersaillesnations(takegoodnoteofthis)werereceived byhimduringaspecialperiod,whenwecouldstillhavebecometheheirsofStalininthecaseof hisdefeat,whentheoppositionstillexisted...Doyouconsiderthisfacttobeamatterofchanceor onlyacoincidenceintime? {p.14}G.IdonotseeanyconnexionbetweenthepermissionoftheVersaillesPowersofGerman rearmamentandtheexistenceoftheopposition...ThetrajectoryofHitlerismisinitselfclearand logical.TheattackontheUSSRwaspartofhisprogrammealreadyalongtimeago.The destructionofCommunismandexpansionintheEastthesearedogmasfromthebook "MeinKampf,"thatTalmudofNationalSocialism...,butthatyourdefeatistswantedtotake advantageofthisthreattotheUSSRthatis,ofcourse,inaccordancewithyourtrainofthought. R.Yes,atafirstglancethisappearstobenaturalandlogical,toologicalandnaturalforthetruth. G.Topreventthishappening,sothatHitlerwouldnotattackus,wewouldhavetoentrust ourselvestoanalliancewithFrance...,butthatwouldbeanaivete.Itwouldmeanthatwebelieve thatCapitalismwouldbewillingtomakesacrificesforthesakeofsavingCommunism. R.Ifweshallcontinuethediscussiononlyonthefoundationofthoseconceptionswhichapply foruseatmassmeetings,thenyouarequiteright.Butifyouaresincereinsayingthisthen,forgive me,Iamdisappointed;IhadthoughtthatthepoliticsofthefamousStalinistpolicestandona higherlevel. G.TheHitleristattackontheUSSRis,inaddition,adialecticalnecessity;itisthesameasthe inevitablestruggleoftheclassesintheinternationalplane.AtthesideofHitler,inevitably,there willstandthewholeglobalCapitalism. R.Andso,believeme,thatinthelightofyourscholasticdialectics,Ihaveformedaverynegative opinionaboutthepoliticalcultureofStalinism.IlistentoyourwordsasEinsteincouldlistentoa schoolboytalkingaboutphysicsinfourdimensions.Iseethatyouareonlyacquaintedwith elementaryMarxism,i.e.withthedemagogic,popularone. G.Ifyourexplanationwillnotbetoolongandinvolved,Ishouldbegratefultoyouforsome explanationofthis"relativity"or"quantum"ofMarxism. R.Herethereisnoirony;Iamspeakingwiththebestintentions...Inthissameelementary Marxism,whichistaughteveninyourStalinistUniversity,youcanfindthestatementwhich contradictsthewholeofyourthesisabouttheinevitabilityoftheHitleristattackontheUSSR.You arealsotaughtthatthecornerstoneofMarxismistheassertionthat,supposedly,contradictionsare theincurableandfatalillnessofCapitalism...Isthatnotso? G.Yes,ofcourse. R.ButifthingsareinfactsuchthatweaccuseCapitalismofbeingimbuedwithcontinuous Capitalisticcontradictionsinthesphereofeconomics,thenwhyshoulditnecessarilysufferfrom themalsoinpolitics?Thepoliticalandeconomicisofnoimportanceinitself;thisisaconditionor

measurementofthesocialessence,butcontradictionsariseinthesocialsphere,andarereflected simultaneouslyintheeconomicorpoliticalones,orinbothatthesametime.Itwouldbeabsurd toassumefallibilityineconomicsandsimultaneouslyinfallibilityin {p.15}politicswhichissomethingessentialinorderthatanattackontheUSSRshouldbecome inevitableaccordingtoyourpostulateabsolutelyessential. G.Thismeansthatyourelyineverythingonthecontradictions,fatalityandinevitabilityofthe errorswhichmustbecommittedbythebourgeoisie,whichwillhinderHitlerfromattackingthe USSR.IamaMarxist,Rakovsky,buthere,betweenourselves,inordernottoprovidethepretextfor angertoasingleactivist,IsaytoyouthatwithallmyfaithinMarxIwouldnotbelievethatthe USSRexiststhankstothemistakesofitsenemies...AndIthinkthatStalinsharesthesameview. R.ButIdothinkso...Donotlookatmelikethat,asIamnotjokingandamnotmad. G.Permitmeatleasttodoubtit,untilyouwillhaveprovedyourassertions. R.DoyounowseethatIhadreasonsforqualifyingyourMarxistcultureasbeingdoubtful?Your argumentsandreactionsarethesameasanyrankandfileactivist. G.Andtheyarewrong? R.Yes,theyarecorrectforasmalladministrator,forabureaucratandforthemass.Theysuitthe averagefighter...Theymustbelievethisandrepeateverythingasithasbeenwritten.Listentome bywayofthecompletelyconfidential.WithMarxismyougetthesameresultsaswiththe ancientesotericreligions.Theiradherentshadtoknowonlythatwhichwasthemostelementary andcrude,insofarasbythisoneprovokedtheirfaith,i.e.thatwhichisabsolutelyessential,bothin religionandintheworkofrevolution. G.DoyounotnowwanttoopenuptomethemysticalMarxism,somethinglikeyetanother freemasonry? R.No,noesoterics.Onthecontrary,Ishallexplainitwiththemaximalclarity.Marxism,before beingaphilosophical,economicandpoliticalsystem,isaconspiracyfortherevolution.Andas forustherevolutionistheonlyabsolutereality,itfollowsthatphilosophy,economicsandpolitics aretrueonlyinsofarastheyleadtorevolution.Thefundamentaltruth(letuscallitsubjective)does notexistineconomics,politicsorevenmorals:inthelightofscientificabstractionitiseithertruth orerror,butforus,whoaresubjecttorevolutionarydialectic,itisonlytruth.Andinsofarastous, whoaresubjecttorevolutionarydialectic,itisonlytruth,andthereforethesoletruth,thenitmust besuchforallthatisrevolutionary,andsuchitwastoMarx.Inaccordancewiththiswemustact. RememberthephraseofLenin,inreplytosomeonewhodemonstratedbywayofargumentthat, supposedly,hisintentioncontradictedreality:"Ifeelittobereal"washisanswer.Doyounotthink thatLeninspokenonsense?No,forhimeveryreality;everytruthwasrelativeinthefaceofthesole andabsoluteone:therevolution.Marxwasagenius.Ifhisworkshadamountedtoonlythedeep criticismofCapitalism,theneventhatwouldhavebeenanunsurpassedscientificwork;butinthose placeswherehiswritingreachesthelevelofmastery,therecomestheeffectofanapparently ironicalwork."Communism"hesays"mustwinbecauseCapitalwillgiveitthatvictory, thoughitsenemy."SuchisthemagisterialthesisofMarx... {p.16}Cantherebeagreaterirony?Andthen,inorderthatheshouldbebelieved,itwasenough forhimtodepersonalizeCapitalismandCommunism,havingtransformedthehumanindividual intoaconsciouslythinkingindividual,whichhedidwiththeextraordinarytalentofajuggler.Such washisslymethod,inordertodemonstratetotheCapitaliststhattheyarearealityofCapitalism andthatCommunismcantriumphastheresultofinbornidiocy;sincewithoutthepresenceof immortalidiocyinhomoeconomicotherecouldnotappearinhimcontinuouscontradictionsas

proclaimedbyMarx.Tobeabletoachievethetransformationofhomosapiensintohomostultumis topossessmagicalforce,capableofbringingmandowntothefirststageofthezoologicalladder, i.e.totheleveloftheanimal.OnlyifthereishomostultumintheepochoftheapogeeofCapitalism couldMarxformulatehisaxiomaticproposition:contradictionsplustimeequalCommunism. Believeme,whenwewhoareinitiatedintothis,contemplatetherepresentationofMarx,for exampletheonewhichisplacedabovethemainentrancetotheLubianka,thenwecannotprevent theinnerexplosionoflaughterbywhichMarxhadinfectedus;weseehowhelaughsintohisbeard atallhumanity. G.Andyouarestillcapableoflaughingatthemostreveredscientistoftheepoch? R.Ridicule,me?...Thisisthehighestadmiration!InorderthatMarxshouldbeabletodeceiveso manypeopleofscience,itwasessentialthatheshouldtowerabovethemall.Well:inordertohave judgementsaboutMarxinallhisgreatness,wemustconsidertherealMarx,Marxthe revolutionary,Marx,judgedbyhismanifesto.ThismeansMarxtheconspirator,asduringhislife therevolutionwasinaconditionofconspiracy.Itisnotfornothingthattherevolutionisindebted foritsdevelopmentanditsrecentvictoriestotheseconspirators. G.ThereforeyoudenytheexistenceofthedialecticalprocessofcontradictionsinCapitalism, whichleadtothefinaltriumphofCommunism? R.YoucanbesurethatifMarxbelievedthatCommunismwillachievevictoryonlythankstothe contradictionsinCapitalism,thenhewouldnothaveonce,never,mentionedthecontradictionson thethousandsofpagesofhisscientificrevolutionarywork.Suchwasthecategoricalimperativeof therealisticnatureofMarx:notthescientific,buttherevolutionaryone.Therevolutionaryand conspiratorwillneverdisclosetohisopponentthesecretofhistriumph...Hewouldnevergive theinformation;hewouldgivehimdisinformationwhichyouuseincounterconspiracy.Isthatnot so? G.However,intheendwehavereachedtheconclusion(accordingtoyou)thatthereareno contradictionsinCapitalism,andifMarxspeaksofthemthenitisonlyarevolutionarystrategical method.Thatisso?ButthecolossalandevergrowingcontradictionsinCapitalismaretheretosee. AndsowegettheconclusionthatMarx,havinglied,spokethetruth. R.Youaredangerousasadialectician,whenyoudestroythebrakesofscholasticdogmatismand givefreereintoyourowninventiveness.Soitis,thatMarxspokethetruthwhenhelied.Helied whenheledintoerror,havingdefinedthecontradictionsasbeing"continuous"inthehistoryofthe economicsofcapitalandcalledthem"naturaland {p.17}inevitable,"butatthesametimehestatedthetruthbecauseheknewthatthecontradictions wouldbecreatedandwouldgrowinanincreasingprogressionuntiltheyreachtheirapogee. G.Thismeansthatwithyouthereisanantithesis? R.Thereisnoantithesishere.Marxdeceivesfortacticalreasonsabouttheoriginofthe contradictionsinCapitalism,butnotabouttheirobviousreality.Marxknewhowtheywere created,howtheybecamemoreacuteandhowthingswenttowardsgeneralanarchyin Capitalisticproduction,whichcamebeforethetriumphoftheCommunistrevolution...Heknew itwouldhappenbecauseheknewthosewhocreatedthecontradictions. G.Itisaverystrangerevelationandpieceofnews,thisassertionandexposalofthecircumstance thatthatwhichleadsCapitalismtoits"suicide,"bythewellchosenexpressionofthebourgeois economistSchmalenbach,insupportofMarx,isnottheessenceandinbornlawofCapitalism. ButIaminterestedtoknowifwewillreachthepersonalbythispath?

R.Haveyounotfeltthisintuitively?HaveyounotnoticedhowinMarxwordscontradictdeeds? HedeclaresthenecessityandinevitabilityofCapitalistcontradictions,provingtheexistenceof surplusvalueandaccumulation,i.e.heprovesthatwhichreallyexists.Henimblyinventsthe propositionthattoagreaterconcentrationofthemeansofproductioncorrespondsagreatermassof theproletariat,agreaterforceforthebuildingofCommunism,isthatnotso?Nowgoon:atthe sametimeasthisassertionhefoundstheInternational.YettheInternationalis,intheworkofthe dailystruggleoftheclasses,a"reformist,"i.e.anorganizationwhosepurposeisthelimitationof thesurplusvalueand,wherepossible,itselimination.Forthisreason,objectively,theInternational isacounterrevolutionaryorganizationandantiCommunist,inaccordancewithMarx'stheory. G.NowwegetthatMarxisacounterrevolutionaryandanantiCommunist. R.Well,nowyouseehowonecanmakeuseoftheoriginalMarxistculture.Itisonlypossibleto describetheInternationalasbeingcounterrevolutionaryandantiCommunist,withlogicaland scientificexactness,ifonedoesnotseeinthefactsanythingmorethanthedirectlyvisibleresult, andinthetextsonlytheletter.Onecomestosuchabsurdconclusions,whiletheyseemtobe obvious,whenoneforgetsthatwordsandfactsinMarxismaresubjecttostrictrulesofthe higherscience:therulesofconspiracyandrevolution. G.Willweeverreachthefinalconclusions? R.Inamoment.Iftheclassstruggle,intheeconomicsphere,turnsouttobereformistinthelight ofitsfirstresults,andforthatreasoncontradictsthetheoreticalpresuppositions,whichdetermine theestablishmentofCommunism,thenitis,initsrealandtruemeaning,purelyrevolutionary.ButI repeatagain:itissubjecttotherulesofconspiracy,thatmeanstomaskingandthehidingofitstrue aims...Thelimitationofthesurplusvalueandthusalsoofaccumulationsastheconsequenceofthe classstrugglethatisonlyamatterofappearances,anillusion,inordertostimulatethebasic revolutionarymovementinthemasses.Astrikeisalreadyanattemptatrevolutionarymobiliz {p.18}ation.Independentlyofwhetheritwinsornot,itseconomiceffectisanarchical.Asa resultthismethodfortheimprovementoftheeconomicpositionofoneclassbringsaboutthe impoverishmentoftheeconomyingeneral;whatevermaybethescaleandresultsofthestrike,it willalwaysbringaboutareductionofproduction.Thegeneralresult:morepoverty,whichthe workingclasscannotshakeoff.Thatisalreadysomething.Butthatisnottheonlyresultandnot themostimportantone.Asweknow,theonlyaimofanystruggleintheeconomicsphereistoearn moreandworkless.Suchistheeconomicabsurdity,butaccordingtoourterminology,suchisthe contradiction,whichhasnotbeennoticedbythemasses,whichareblindedatanygivenmomentby ariseinwages,whichisatonceannulledbyariseinprices.Andifpricesarelimitedby governmentalaction,thenthesamethinghappens,i.e.acontradictionbetweenthewishtospend more,produceless,isqualifiedherebymonetaryinflation.Andsoonegetsaviciouscircle:a strike,hunger,inflation,hunger. G.Withtheexceptionwhenthestriketakesplaceattheexpenseofthesurplusvalueof Capitalism. R.Theory,puretheory.Speakingbetweenourselves,takeanyannualhandbookconcerningthe economicsofanycountryanddividerentsandthetotalincomebyallthosereceivingwagesor salaries,andyouwillseewhatanextraordinaryresultemerges.Thisresultisthemostcounter revolutionaryfact,andwemustkeepitacompletesecret.Thisisbecauseifyoudeductfromthe theoreticaldividendthesalariesandexpensesofthedirectors,whichwouldbetheconsequenceon theabolitionofownership,thenalmostalwaysthereremainsadividendwhichisadebitforthe proletariat.Inrealityalwaysadebit,ifwealsoconsiderthereductioninthevolumeandqualityof production.Asyouwillnowsee,acalltostrike,asameansforachievingaquickimprovementof

thewellbeingoftheproletariatisonlyanexcuse;anexcuserequiredinordertoforceittocommit sabotageofCapitalisticproduction.Thustothecontradictionsinthebourgeoissystemareadded contradictionswithintheproletariat;thisisthedoubleweaponoftherevolution,anditwhichis obviousdoesnotariseofitself:thereexistsanorganization,chiefs,discipline,andabovethat thereexistsstupidity.Don'tyoususpectthatthemuchmentionedcontradictionsofCapitalism, andinparticularthefinancialones,arealsoorganizedbysomeone?...Bywayofbasisfor thesedeductionsIshallremindyouthatinitseconomicstruggletheproletarianInternational coincideswiththefinancialInternational,sincebothproduceinflation,andwhereverthereis coincidencethere,oneshouldassume,isalsoagreement.Thosearehisownwords. G.Isuspectheresuchanenormousabsurdity,ortheintentionofspinninganewparadox,thatIdo notwanttoimaginethis.Itlooksasifyouwanttohintattheexistenceofsomethinglikea CapitalisticsecondCommunistInternational,ofcourseanenemyone. R.Exactlyso.WhenIspokeofthefinancialInternational,IthoughtofitasofaComintern, buthavingadmittedtheexistenceofthe"Comintern,"Iwouldnotsaythattheyareenemies. G.Ifyouwanttomakeuslosetimeoninventionsandphantasies,Imusttellyouthatyouhave chosenthewrongmoment. R.Bytheway,areyouassumingthatIamlikethecourtesanfrom {p.19}the"ArabianNights,"whousedherimaginationatnighttosaveherlife...No,ifyouthink thatIamdepartingfromthetheme,thenyouarewrong.Inordertoreachthatwhichwehavetaken asouraimI,ifIamnottofail,mustfirstofallenlightenyouaboutthemostimportantmatters, whilebearinginmindyourgenerallackofacquaintancewiththatwhichIwouldcallthe"Higher Marxism."IdarenotevadetheseexplanationsasIknowwellthatsuchlackofknowledgeexistsin theKremlin...Permitmetocontinue. G.Youmaycontinue.Butitistruethatifallthisweretobeseentobeonlyalossoftimetoexcite theimagination,thenthisamusementwillhaveaverysadepilogue.Ihavewarnedyou. R.IcontinueasifIhaveheardnothing.InsofarasyouareascholasticwithrelationtoCapital,and Iwanttoawakenyourinductivetalents,Ishallremindyouofsomeverycuriousthings.Noticewith whatpenetrationMarxcomestoconclusionsgiventhethenexistenceofearlyBritishindustry, concerningitsconsequences,i.e.thecontemporarycolossalindustry:howheanalysesitand criticizes;whatarepulsivepicturehegivesofthemanufacturer.Inyourimaginationandthatofthe massestherearisestheterriblepictureofCapitalisminitshumanconcretization:afatbellied manufacturerwithacigarinhismouth,asdescribedbyMarx,withselfsatisfactionandanger throwingthewifeanddaughteroftheworkerontothestreet.Isthatnotso?Atthesametime rememberthemoderationofMarxandhisbourgeoisorthodoxywhenstudyingthequestion ofmoney.Intheproblemofmoneytheredonotappearwithhimhisfamouscontradictions. Financesdonotexistforhimasathingofimportanceinitself;tradeandthecirculationof moneysaretheresultsofthecursedsystemofCapitalisticproduction,whichsubjectsthemtoitself andfullydeterminesthem.InthequestionofmoneyMarxisareactionary;toone'simmense surprisehewasone;bearinmindthe"fivepointedstar"liketheSovietone,whichshinesall overEurope,thestarcomposedofthefiveRothschildbrotherswiththeirbanks,whopossess colossalaccumulationsofwealth,thegreatesteverknown...Andsothisfact,socolossalthatit misledtheimaginationofthepeopleofthatepoch,passesunnoticedwithMarx.Something strange...Isthatnotso?ItispossiblethatfromthisstrangeblindnessofMarxtherearisesa phenomenonwhichiscommontoallfuturesocialrevolutions.Itisthis:wecanallconfirmthat whenthemassestakepossessionofacityoracountry,thentheyalwaysseemstruckbyasort

ofsuperstitiousfearofthebanksandbankers.OnehadkilledKings,generals,bishops, policemen,priestsandotherrepresentativesofthehatedprivilegedclasses;onerobbedandburnt palaces,churchesandevencentresofscience,butthoughtherevolutionswereeconomicsocial, thelivesofthebankerswererespected,andasaresultthemagnificentbuildingsofthebanks remaineduntouched...Accordingtomyinformation,beforeIhadbeenarrested,thiscontinueseven now... G.Where? R.InSpain...Don'tyouknowit?Asyouaskme,sotellmenow:Doyounotfindallthisvery strange?Think,thepolice...Idonotknow,haveyoupaidattentiontothestrangesimilaritywhich existsbetweenthefinancialInternationalandtheproletarianInternational.Iwouldsaythat oneistheothersideoftheother,andthebacksideistheproletarianoneasbeingmoremodern thanthefinancial. {p.20}G.Wheredoyouseesimilarityinthingssoopposed? R.Objectivelytheyareidentical.AsIhadproved,theComintern,paralleled,doubledbythe reformistmovementandthewholeofsyndicalism,callsforththeanarchyofproduction, inflation,povertyandhopelessnessinthemasses.Finances,chieflythefinancialinternational, doubled,consciouslyorunconsciouslybyprivatefinances,createthesamecontradictions,butin stillgreaternumbers...NowwecanalreadyguessthereasonswhyMarxconcealedthefinancial contradictions,whichcouldnothaveremainedhiddenfromhispenetratinggaze,iffinanceshad nothadanally,theinfluenceofwhichobjectivelyrevolutionarywasalreadythen extraordinarilyimportant. G.Anunconsciouscoincidence,butnotanalliancewhichpresupposesintelligence,willand agreement... R.Letusleavethispointofviewifyoulike.Nowletusbettergoovertothesubjectiveanalysisof financesandevenmore:letusseewhatsortofpeoplepersonallyareatworkthere.The internationalessenceofmoneyiswellknown.Fromthisfactemergesthattheorganizationwhich ownsthemandaccumulatesthemisacosmopolitanorganization.Financesintheirapogeeasan aiminthemselves,thefinancialInternationaldenyanddonotrecogniseanythingnational,they donotrecognizetheState;andthereforeitisanarchicalandwouldbeabsolutelyanarchicalifit thedenierofanynationalStatewerenotitself,bynecessity,aStateinitsownbasicessence.The Stateassuchisonlypower.Andmoneyisexclusivelypower. Thiscommunisticsuperstate,whichwearecreatingalreadyduringawholecentury,andthe schemeofwhichistheInternationalofMarx.Analyseitandyouwillseeitsessence.Thescheme oftheInternationalanditsprototypeoftheUSSRthatisalsopurepower.Thebasicsimilarity betweenthetwocreationsisabsolute.Itissomethingfatalistic,inevitable,sincethepersonalities oftheauthorsofbothwasidentical.ThefinancierisjustasinternationalastheCommunist. Both,withthehelpofdifferingpretextsanddifferingmeans,strugglewiththenationalbourgeois Stateanddenyit.MarxisminordertochangeitintoaCommunistState;fromthiscomesthatthe Marxistmustbeaninternationalist:thefinancierdeniesthebourgeoisnationalStateandhisdenial endsinitself;infacthedoesnotmanifesthimselfasaninternationalist,butasacosmopolitan anarchist...Thatishisappearanceatthegivenstage,butletusseewhathereallyisandwhathe wantstobe.Asyousee,inrejectionthereisaclearsimilarityindividuallybetweenCommunist internationalistsandfinancialcosmopolitans;asanaturalresultthereisthesamesimilarity betweentheCommunistInternationalandthefinancialInternational... G.Thisisachancesimilaritysubjectivelyandobjectiveincontradictions,butoneeasilyeroded

andhavinglittlesignificanceandthatwhichismostradicalandexistinginreality. R.Allowmenottoreplyjustnow,soasnottointerruptthelogicalsequence...Ionlywantto decipherthebasicaxiom:moneyispower.Moneyistodaythecentreofglobalgravity.Ihopeyou agreewithme? G.Continue,Rakovsky,Ibegofyou. R.TheunderstandingofhowthefinancialInternationalhasgradually,rightuptoourepoch, becomethemasterofmoney,this {p.21}magicaltalisman,whichhasbecomeforpeoplethatwhichGodandthenationhadbeen formerly,issomethingwhichexceedsinscientificinteresteventheartofrevolutionarystrategy, sincethisisalsoanartandalsoarevolution.Ishallexplainittoyou.Historiographersandthe masses,blindedbytheshoutsandthepompoftheFrenchrevolution,thepeople,intoxicatedby thefactthatithadsucceededintakingallpowerfromtheKingandtheprivilegedclasses,didnot noticehowasmallgroupofmysterious,carefulandinsignificantpeoplehadtakenpossession oftherealRoyalpower,themagicalpower,almostdivine,whichitobtainedalmostwithout knowingit.Themassesdidnotnoticethatthepowerhadbeenseizedbyothersandthatsoonthey hadsubjectedthemtoaslaverymorecruelthantheKing,sincethelatter,inviewofhis religiousandmoralprejudices,wasincapableoftakingadvantageofsuchapower.Soitcame aboutthatthesupremeRoyalpowerwastakenoverbypersons,whosemoral,intellectualand cosmopolitanqualitiesdidallowthemtouseit.Itisclearthatthiswerepeoplewhohadnever beenChristians,butcosmopolitans. G.Whatisthatforamythicalpowerwhichtheyhadobtained? R.Theyhadacquiredforthemselvestherealprivilegeofcoiningmoney...Donotsmile, otherwiseIshallhavetobelievethatyoudonotknowwhatmoneysare...Iaskyoutoputyourself inmyplace.Mypositioninrelationtoyouisthatoftheassistantofadoctor,whowouldhaveto explainbacteriologytoaresurrectedmedicalmanoftheepochbeforePasteur.ButIcanexplain yourlackofknowledgetomyselfandcanforgiveit.Ourlanguagemakesuseofwordswhich provokeincorrectthoughtsaboutthingsandactions,thankstothepoweroftheinertiaofthoughts, andwhichdonotcorrespondtorealandexactconceptions.Isay:money.Itisclearthatinyour imaginationthereimmediatelyappearedpicturesofrealmoneyofmetalandpaper.Butthatisnot so.Moneyisnownotthat;realcirculatingcoinisatrueanachronism.Ifitstillexistsand circulates,thenitisonlythankstoatavism,onlybecauseitisconvenienttomaintaintheillusion,a purelyimaginaryfictionforthepresentday. G.Thisisabrilliantparadox,riskyandevenpoetical. R.Ifyoulike,thisisperhapsbrilliant,butitisnotaparadox.Iknowandthatiswhyyousmiled thatStatesstillcoinmoneyonpiecesofmetalorpaperwithRoyalbustsornationalcrests;well, sowhat?Agreatpartofthemoneycirculating,moneyforbigaffairs,asrepresentativeofall nationalwealth,money,yesmoneyitwasbeingissuedbythosefewpeopleaboutwhomIhad hinted.Titles,figures,cheques,promissorynotes,endorsements,discount,quotations,figures withoutendfloodedStateslikeawaterfall.Whatareincomparisonwiththesethemetallicand papermoneys?...Somethingdevoidofinfluence,somekindofminimuminthefaceofthegrowing floodoftheallfloodingfinancialmoney.They,beingthemostsubtlepsychologists,wereableto gainevenmorewithouttrouble,thankstoalackofunderstanding.Inadditiontotheimmensely varieddifferentformsoffinancialmoneys,theycreatedcreditmoneywithaviewtomakingits volumeclosetoinfinite.Andtogiveitthespeedofsound...itisanabstraction,abeingof thought,afigure,number,credit,faith...

Doyouunderstandalready?...Fraud;falsemoneys,givenalegalstanding...,usingother terminology,sothatyoushouldunderstand {p.22}me.Banks,thestockexchangesandthewholeworldfinancialsystemisagigantic machineforthepurposeofbringingaboutunnaturalscandals,accordingtoAristotle's expression;toforcemoneytoproducemoneythatissomethingthatifitisacrimeineconomics, theninrelationstofinancesitisacrimeagainstthecriminalcode,sinceitisusury.Idonotknow bywhatargumentsallthisisjustified:bythepropositionthattheyreceivelegalinterest...Even acceptingthat,andeventhatadmissionismorethanisnecessary,weseethatusurystillexists,since eveniftheinterestreceivedislegal,thenitinventsandfalsifiesthenonexistentcapital.Bankshave alwaysbywayofdepositsormoneysinproductivemovementacertainquantityofmoney whichisfiveorperhapsevenahundredtimesgreaterthantherearephysicallycoinedmoneys ofmetalorpaper.Ishallsaynothingofthosecaseswhenthecreditmoneys,i.e.false,fabricated ones,aregreaterthanthequantityofmoneyspaidoutascapital.Bearinginmindthatlawful interestisfixednotonrealcapitalbutonnonexistingcapital,theinterestisillegalbysomany timesasthefictionalcapitalisgreaterthantherealone. Bearinmindthatthissystem,whichIamdescribingindetail,isoneofthemostinnocentamong thoseusedforthefabricationoffalsemoney.Imaginetoyourself,ifyoucan,asmallnumberof people,havingunlimitedpowerthroughthepossessionofrealwealth,andyouwillseethattheyare theabsolutedictatorsofthestockexchange;andasaresultofthisalsothedictatorsofproduction anddistributionandalsoofworkandconsumption.Ifyouhaveenoughimaginationthenmultiply this,bytheglobalfactorandyouwillseeitsanarchical,moralandsocialinfluence,i.e.a revolutionaryone...Doyounowunderstand? G.No,notyet. R.Obviouslyitisverydifficulttounderstandmiracles. G.Miracle? R.Yes,miracle.Isitnotamiraclethatawoodenbenchhasbeentransformedintoatemple?And yetsuchamiraclehasbeenseenbypeopleathousandtimes,andtheydidnotbataneyelid,duringa wholecentury.Sincethiswasanextraordinarymiraclethatthebenchesonwhichsatthegreasy usurerstotradeintheirmoneys,havenowbeenconvertedintotemples,whichstandmagnificently ateverycornerofcontemporarybigtownswiththeirheathencolonnades,andcrowdsgotherewith afaithwhichtheyarealreadynotgivenbyheavenlygods,inordertobringassiduouslytheir depositsofalltheirpossessionstothegodofmoney,who,theyimagine,livesinthesteelsafesof thebankers,andwhoispreordained,thankstohisdivinemissiontoincreasethewealthtoa metaphysicalinfinity. G.Thisisthenewreligionofthedecayedbourgeoisie? R.Religion,yes,thereligionofpower. G.Youappeartobethepoetofeconomics. R.Ifyoulike,theninordertogiveapictureoffinance,asofaworkofartwhichismostobviously aworkofgeniusandthemostrevolutionaryofalltimes,poetryisrequired. G.Thisisafaultyview.Finances,asdefinedbyMarx,andmoreespeciallyEngels,aredetermined bythesystemofCapitalisticproduction. {p.23}R.Exactly,butjustthereverse:theCapitalisticsystemofproductionisdeterminedby finance.ThefactthatEngelsstatestheoppositeandeventriestoprovethis,isthemostobvious proofthatfinancesrulebourgeoisproduction.SoitisandsoitwasevenbeforeMarxandEngels,

thatfinanceswerethemostpowerfulinstrumentofrevolutionandtheCominternwasnothing butatoyintheirhands.ButneitherMarxnorEngelswilldiscloseorexplainthis.Onthecontrary, makinguseoftheirtalentasscientists,theyhadtocamouflagetruthforasecondtimeinthe interestsoftherevolution.Andthatbothofthemdid. G.Thisstoryisnotnew.AllthissomewhatremindsmeofwhatTrotzkyhadwrittensometen yearsago. R.Tellme... G.WhenhesaysthattheCominternisaconservativeorganizationincomparisonwiththestock exchangeinNewYork;hepointsatthebigbankersasbeingtheinventorsoftherevolution. R.Yes,hesaidthisinasmallbookinwhichheforetoldthefallofEngland...Yes,hesaidthisand added:"WhopushesEnglandalongthepathofrevolution?"...andreplied:"NotMoscow,butNew York." G.ButrememberalsohisassertionthatifthefinanciersofNewYorkhadforgedtherevolution, thenitwasdoneunconsciously. R.TheexplanationwhichIhadalreadygiveninordertohelptounderstandwhyEngelsand Marxcamouflagedthetruth,isequallyapplicablealsotoLeoTrotzky. G.IvalueinTrotzkyonlythatheinasortofliteraryforminterpretedanopinionofafactwhichas suchwastoowellknown,withwhichonehadalreadyreckonedpreviously.Trotzkyhimselfstates quitecorrectlythatthesebankers"carryoutirresistiblyandunconsciouslytheirrevolutionary mission." R.AndtheycarryouttheirmissiondespitethefactthatTrotzkyhasdeclaredit?Whatastrange thing!Whydotheynotimprovetheiractions? G.Thefinanciersareunconsciousrevolutionariessincetheyaresuchonlyobjectively,astheresult oftheirintellectualincapacityofseeingthefinalconsequences. R.Youbelievethissincerely?Youthinkthatamongtheserealgeniusestherearesomewhoare unconscious?Youconsidertobeidiotspeopletowhomtodaythewholeworldissubjected? Thiswouldreallybeaverystupidcontradiction! G.Whatdoyoupretendto? R.Isimplyassertthattheyarerevolutionariesobjectivelyandsubjectively,quiteconsciously. G.Thebankers!Youmustbemad? R.I,no...Butyou?Thinkalittle.Thesepeoplearejustlikeyouandme.Thecircumstancethat theycontrolmoneysinunlimitedamounts,insofarastheythemselvescreatethem,doesnotgiveus theopportunityofdeterminingthelimitsofalltheirambitions...Ifthereissomethingwhich providesamanwithfullsatisfactionthenitisthesatisfactionofhisambition.Andmostofallthe satisfactionofhis {p.20}willtopower.Whyshouldnotthesepeople,thebankers,havetheimpulsetowards power,towardsfullpower?Justasithappenstoyouandtome. G.Butif,accordingtoyouandIthinkthesametheyalreadyhaveglobalpoliticalpower,then whatotherpowerdotheywanttopossess? R.Ihavealreadytoldyou:Fullpower.SuchpowerasStalinhasintheUSSR,butworldwide. G.SuchpowerasStalin's,butwiththeoppositeaim.

R.Power,ifinrealityitisabsolute,canbeonlyone.Theideaoftheabsoluteexcludesmultiplicity. ForthatreasonthepowersoughtbytheCominternand"Comintern,"whicharethingsofthesame order,beingabsolute,mustalsoinpoliticsbeuniqueandidentical:Absolutepowerhasapurposein itself,otherwiseitisnotabsolute.Anduntilthepresentdaytherehasnotyetbeeninvented anothermachineoftotalpowerexcepttheCommunistState.Capitalisticbourgeoispower,even onitshighestrungoftheladder,thepowerofCaesar,islimitedpowersinceif,intheory,itwasthe personificationofthedeityinthePharaohsandCaesarsinancienttimes,thennevertheless,thanks totheeconomiccharacteroflifeinthoseprimitiveStatesandowingtothetechnicalunder developmentoftheStateapparatus,therewasalwaysroomforindividualfreedom.Doyou understandthatthosewhoalreadypartiallyruleovernationsandworldlygovernmentshave pretensionstoabsolutedomination?Understandthatthatistheonlythingwhichtheyhavenotyet reached. G.Thisisinteresting:atleastasanexampleofinsanity. R.Certainly,insanityinalesserdegreethaninthecaseofLenin,whodreamtofpoweroverthe wholeworldinhisatticinSwitzerlandortheinsanityofStalin,dreamingofthesamethingduring hisexileinaSiberianhut.Ithinkthatdreamsofsuchambitionsaremuchmorenaturalforthe moneyedpeople,livingintheskyscrapersofNewYork. G.Letusconclude:Whoarethey? R.YouaresonaivethatyouthinkthatifIknewwho"They"are,Iwouldbehereasa prisoner? G.Why? R.Foraverysimplereason,sincehewhoisacquaintedwiththemwouldnotbeputintoa positioninwhichhewouldbeobligedtoreportonthem...Thisisanelementaryruleofevery intelligentconspiracy,whichyoumustwellunderstand. G.Butyousaidthattheyarethebankers? R.NotI;rememberthatIalwaysspokeofthefinancialInternational,andwhenmentioning personsIsaid"They"andnothingmore.IfyouwantthatIshouldinformyouopenlythenIshall onlygivefacts,butnotnames,sinceIdonotknowthem.IthinkIshallnotbewrongifItellyou thatnotoneof"Them"isapersonwhooccupiesapoliticalpositionorapositionintheWorld Bank.AsIunderstoodafterthemurderofRathenauinRapallo,theygivepoliticalorfinancial positionsonlytointermediaries.Obviouslytopersonswhoaretrustworthyandloyal,whichcan beguaranteedathousandways:thusonecanassertthatbankersandpoliticiansareonlymenof straw...eventhoughthey {p.25}occupyveryhighplacesandaremadetoappeartobetheauthorsoftheplanswhichare carriedout. G.Althoughallthiscanbeunderstoodandisalsological,butisnotyourdeclarationofnot knowingonlyanevasion?Asitseemstome,andaccordingtotheinformationIhave,youoccupied asufficientlyhighplaceinthisconspiracytohaveknownmuchmore.Youdonotevenknowa singleoneofthempersonally? R.Yes,butofcourseyoudonotbelieveme.IhavecometothatmomentwhereIhadexplained thatIamtalkingaboutapersonandpersonswithapersonality...howshouldonesay?...amystical one,likeGhandiorsomethinglikethat,butwithoutanyexternaldisplay.Mysticsofpurepower, whohavebecomefreefromallvulgartrifles.Idonotknowifyouunderstandme?Well,astotheir

placeofresidenceandnames,Idonotknowthem...ImagineStalinjustnow,inrealityrulingthe USSR,butnotsurroundedbystonewalls,nothavinganypersonnelaroundhim,andhavingthe sameguaranteesforhislifeasanyothercitizen.Bywhichmeanscouldheguardagainstattemptson hislife?Heisfirstofallaconspirator,howevergreathispower,heisanonymous. G.Whatyouaresayingislogical,butIdonotbelieveyou. R.Butstillbelieveme;Iknownothing;ifIknewthenhowhappyIwouldbe!Iwouldnotbehere, defendingmylife.Iwellunderstandyourdoubtsandthat,inviewofyourpoliceeducation,youfeel theneedforsomeknowledgeaboutpersons.Tohonouryouandalsobecausethisisessentialforthe aimwhichwebothhavesetourselves.IshalldoallIcaninordertoinformyou.Youknowthat accordingtotheunwrittenhistoryknownonlytous,thefounderoftheFirstCommunist Internationalisindicated,ofcoursesecretly,asbeingWeishaupt.Yourememberhisname?He wastheheadofthemasonrywhichisknownbythenameoftheIlluminati;thisnamehe borrowedfromthesecondantiChristianconspiracyofthateragnosticism.Thisimportant revolutionary,SemiteandformerJesuit,foreseeingthetriumphoftheFrenchrevolutiondecided, orperhapshewasordered(somementionashischieftheimportantphilosopherMendelssohn)to foundasecretorganizationwhichwastoprovokeandpushtheFrenchrevolutiontogofurther thanitspoliticalobjectives,withtheaimoftransformingitintoasocialrevolutionforthe establishmentofCommunism.Inthoseheroictimesitwascolossallydangeroustomention Communismasanaim;fromthisderivethevariousprecautionsandsecrets,whichhadtosurround theIlluminati.Morethanahundredyearswererequiredbeforeamancouldconfesstobeinga Communistwithoutdangerofgoingtoprisonorbeingexecuted.Thisismoreorlessknown.What isnotknownaretherelationsbetweenWeishauptandhisfollowerswiththefirstofthe Rothschilds.Thesecretoftheacquisitionofwealthofthebestknownbankerscouldhavebeen explainedbythefactthattheywerethetreasurersofthisfirstComintern.Thereisevidencethat whenthefivebrothersspreadouttothefiveprovincesofthefinancialempireofEurope,theyhad somesecrethelpfortheaccumulationoftheseenormoussums:itispossiblethattheywerethose firstCommunistsfromtheBavariancatacombswhowerealreadyspreadalloverEurope.But otherssay,andIthinkwithbetterreason,thattheRothschildswerenotthetreasurers,butthe {p.26}chiefsofthatfirstsecretCommunism.Thisopinionisbasedonthatwellknownfactthat MarxandthehighestchiefsoftheFirstInternationalalreadytheopenoneandamongthem HerzenandHeine,werecontrolledbyBaronLionelRothschild,whoserevolutionaryportraitwas donebyDisraeli(inConingsbyTransl.)theEnglishPremier,whowashiscreature,andhasbeen lefttous.HedescribedhiminthecharacterofSidonia,aman,who,accordingtothestory,wasa multimillionaire,knewandcontrolledspies,carbonari,freemasons,secretJews,gypsies, revolutionariesetc.,etc.Allthisseemsfantastic.ButithasbeenprovedthatSidoniaisanidealized portraitofthesonofNathanRothschild,whichcanalsobededucedfromthatcampaignwhichhe raisedagainstTsarNicholasinfavourofHerzen.Hewonthiscampaign. Ifallthatwhichwecanguessinthelightofthesefactsistrue,then,Ithink,wecouldeven determinewhoinventedthisterriblemachineofaccumulationandanarchy,whichisthe financialInternational.Atthesametime,Ithink,hewouldbethesamepersonwhoalso createdtherevolutionaryInternational.Itisanactofgenius:tocreatewiththehelpof Capitalismaccumulationofthehighestdegree,topushtheproletariattowardsstrikes,tosow hopelessness,andatthesametimetocreateanorganizationwhichmustunitetheproletarians withthepurposeofdrivingthemintorevolution.Thisistowritethemostmajesticchapterof history.Evenmore:rememberthephraseofthemotherofthefiveRothschildbrothers:"Ifmysons wantit,thentherewillbenowar."Thismeansthattheywerethearbiters,themastersofpeaceand

war,butnotemperors.Areyoucapableofvisualizingthefactofsuchacosmicimportance?Isnot waralreadyarevolutionaryfunction?WartheCommune.Sincethattimeeverywarwasa giantsteptowardsCommunism.Asifsomemysteriousforcesatisfiedthepassionatewishof Lenin,whichhehadexpressedtoGorky.Remember:19051914.Doadmitatleastthattwoofthe threeleversofpowerwhichleadtoCommunismarenotcontrolledandcannotbecontrolledbythe proletariat. WarswerenotbroughtaboutandwerenotcontrolledbyeithertheThirdInternationalortheUSSR, whichdidnotyetexistatthattime.Equallytheycannotbeprovokedandstilllesscontrolledby thosesmallgroupsofBolshevikswhoplodalongintheemigration,althoughtheywantwar.Thisis quiteobvious.TheInternationalandtheUSSRhaveevenfewerpossibilitiesforsuchimmense accumulationsofcapitalandthecreationofnationalorinternationalanarchyinCapitalistic production.Suchananarchywhichiscapableofforcingpeopletoburnhugequantitiesof foodstuffs,ratherthangivethemtostarvingpeople,andiscapableofthatwhichRathenau describedinoneofhisphrases,i.e.:"Tobringaboutthathalftheworldwillfabricatedung,andthe otherhalfwilluseit."And,afterall,cantheproletariatbelievethatitisthecauseofthisinflation, growingingeometricprogression,thisdevaluation,theconstantacquisitionofsurplusvaluesand theaccumulationoffinancialcapital,butnotusurycapital,andthatastheresultofthefactthatit cannotpreventtheconstantloweringofitspurchasingpower,theretakesplacetheproletarization ofthemiddleclasses,whoarethetrueopponentsofrevolution.Theproletariatdoesnotcontrol theleverofeconomicsortheleverofwar.Butitisitselfthethirdlever,theonlyvisibleand demonstrablelever,whichcarriesoutthefinalblowatthepoweroftheCapitalisticStateandtakes itover.Yes,theyseizeit,if"They"yieldittothem... {p.27}G.Iagainrepeattoyouthatallthis,whichyouhavesetoutinsuchaliterateform,hasa namewhichwehavealreadyrepeatedtoexcessinthisendlessconversation:thenatural contradictionsofCapitalismandif,asyouclaim,thereisyetsomeoneelse'swillandactivityapart fromtheproletariat,thenIwantyoutoindicatetomeconcretelyapersonalcase. R.Yourequireonlyone?Well,thenlistentoasmallstory:"They"isolatedtheTsar diplomaticallyfortheRussoJapaneseWar,andtheUnitedStatesfinancedJapan;speaking precisely,thiswasdonebyJacobSchiff,theheadofthebankofKuhn,Loeb&Co.,whichis thesuccessoroftheHouseofRothschild,whenceSchifforiginated.Hehadsuchpowerthathe achievedthatStateswhichhadcolonialpossessionsinAsiasupportedthecreationoftheJapanese Empirewhichwasinclinedtowardsxenophobia;andEuropealreadyfeelstheeffectsofthis xenophobia.FromtheprisonerofwarcampstherecametoPetrogradthebestfighters, trainedasrevolutionaryagents;theyweresenttherefromAmericawiththepermissionofJapan, obainedthroughthepersonswhohadfinancedit.TheRussoJapaneseWar,thankstothe organizeddefeatoftheTsar'sarmy,calledforththerevolutionof1905,which,thoughitwas premature,butwasverynearlysuccessful;evenifitdidnotwin,itstillcreatedtherequiredpo!itical conditionsforthevictoryof1917.Ishallsayevenmore.HaveyoureadthebiographyofTrotzky? Recallitsfirstrevolutionaryperiod.Heisstillquiteayoungman;afterhisflightfromSiberiahe livedsometimeamongtheemigresinLondon,Paris,andSwitzerland;Lenin,Plekhanov,Martov andotherchiefslookonhimonlyasapromisingnewcomer.Buthealreadydaresduringthefirst splittobehaveindependently,tryingtobecomethearbiterofthereunion.In1905heis25 yearsoldandhereturnstoRussiaalone,withoutapartyandwithouthisownoranization.Readthe reportsoftherevolutionof1905whichhavenotbeen"pruned"byStalin;forexamplethatof Lunatcharsky,whowasnotaTrotzkyite.Trotzkyisthechieffigureduringtherevolutionin Petrograd.Thisishowitreallywas.Onlyheemergesfromitwithincreasedpopularityand influence.NeitherLenin,norMartov,norPlekhanovacquirepopularity.Theyonlykeepitand

evenlosealittle.HowandwhythererisestheunknownTrotzky,gainingpowerbyonemovegreater thanthatwhichtheoldestandmostinfluentialrevolutionarieshad?Verysimple:hemarries. TogetherwithhimtherearrivesinRussiahiswifeSedova.Doyouknowwhosheis?Sheis associatedwithZhivotovsky,linkedwiththebankersWarburg,partnersandrelativesof JacobSchiff,i.e.ofthatfinancialgroupwhich,asIhadsaid,hadalsofinancedtherevolutionof 1905.HereisthereasonwhyTrotzky,inonemove,movestothetopoftherevolutionarylist.And here,too,youhavethekeytohisrealpersonality.Letusjumpto1914.Behindthebackofthe peoplewhomadetheattemptontheArchduketherestandsTrotzky,andthatattemptprovoked theEuropeanWar.Doyoureallybelievethatthemurderandthewararesimp!ecoincidences?..., ashadbeensaidatoneoftheZionistcongressesbyLordMelchett.Analyzeinthelightof"non coincidence"thedevelopmentofthemilitaryactionsinRussia."Defeatism"isanexemplary word.ThehelpoftheAlliesfortheTsarwasregulatedandcontrolledwithsuchskillthatitgavethe AlliedambassadorstherighttomakeanargumentofthisandtogetfromNicholas,thanksto {p.28}hisstupidity,suicidaladvances,oneafteranother.ThemassoftheRussiancannonfodder wasimmense,butnotinexhaustible.Aseriesoforganizeddefeatsledtotherevolution.Whenthe threatcamefromallsides,thenacurewasfoundintheformoftheestablishmentofademocratic republican"ambassadorialrepublic"asLenincallediti.e.thismeanttheeliminationofanythreat totherevolutionaries.Butthatisnotyetall.Kerenskywastoprovokethefutureadvanceatthecost ofaverygreatdealofblood.Hebringsitaboutsothatthedemocraticrevolutionshouldspread beyonditsbounds.Andevenstillmore:KerenskywastosurrendertheStatefullyto Communism,andhedoesit.Trotzkyhasthechanceinan"unnoticedmanner"tooccupythe wholeStateapparatus.Whatastrangeblindness!Wellthatistherealityofthemuchpraised Octoberrevolution.TheBolshevikstookthatwhich"They"gavethem. G.YoudaretosaythatKerenskywasacollaboratorofLenin? R.OfLeninno.OfTrotzkyyes;itismorecorrecttosayacollaboratorof"Them." G.Anabsurdity! R.Youcannotunderstand...preciselyyou?Itsurprisesme.Ifyouweretobeaspyand,while hidingyouridentity,youweretoattainthepositionofcommanderoftheenemyfortress,thenwould younotopenthegatestotheattackingforcesinwhoseserviceyouactuallywere?Youwouldnot havebecomeaprisonerwhohadexperienceddefeat?Wouldyounothavebeenindangerofdeath duringtheattackonthefortressifoneoftheattackers,notknowingthatyouruniformisonlya mask,wouldhavetakenyouforanenemy?Believeme:despitethestatuesandmausoleum CommunismisindebtedtoKerenskymuchmorethantoLenin. G.YouwanttosaythatKerenskywasaconsciousandvoluntarydefeatist? R.Yestomethatisquiteclear.UnderstandthatIpersonallytookpartinallthis.Ishalltellyou evenmore:DoyouknowwhofinancedtheOctoberrevolution?"They"financedit,inparticular throughthosesamebankerswhohadfinancedJapanin1905,i.e.JacobSchiff,andthebrothers Warburg;thatmeansthroughthegreatbankingconstellation,throughoneofthefivebankswho aremembersoftheFederalReserve,throughthebankofKuhn,Loeb&Co.,heretheretookpart alsootherAmericanandEuropeanbankers,suchasGuggenheim,Hanauer,Breitung,Aschberg,the "NyaBanken"ofStockholm.Iwasthere"bychance,"thereinStockholm,andparticipatedin thetransmissionoffunds.UntilTrotzkyarrivedIwastheonlypersonwhowasan intermediaryfromtherevolutionaryside.ButatlastTrotzkycame;Imustunderlinethatthe AllieshadexpelledhimfromFranceforbeingadefeatist.AndthesameAlliesreleasedhimsothat hecouldbeadefeatistinalliedRussia..."Anotherchance."Whoarrangedit?Thesamepeople

whohadsucceededthatLeninpassedthroughGermany.Yes,"They"wereabletogetthe defeatistTrotzkyoutofaCanadiancamptoEnglandandsendhimontoRussia,givinghim thechancetopassfreelythroughalltheAlliedcontrols;othersof"Them"acertainRathenau accomplishesthejourneyofLeninthroughenemyGermany.Ifyouwillundertakethestudyof thehistoryoftherevolutionandcivilwarwithoutprejudices,andwilluseallyour {p.29}enquiringcapabilities,whichyouknowhowtoapplytothingsmuchlessimportantandless obvious,thenwhenyoustudyinformationsintheirtotality,andalsostudyseparatedetailsrightup toanecdotalhappeningsyouwillmeetwithawholeseriesof"amazingchances." G.Alright,letusacceptthehypothesisthatnoteverythingwassimplyamatterofluck.What deductionstoyoumakehereforpracticalresults? R.Letmefinishthislittlestory,andthenweshallbotharriveatconclusions.Fromthetimeofhis arrivalinPetrogradTrotzkywasopenlyreceivedbyLenin.Asyouknowsufficientlywell,during theintervalbetweenthetworevolutionstherehadbeendeepdifferencesbetweenthem.Allis forgottenandTrotzkyemergesasthemasterofhistradeinthematterofthetriumphofthe revolution,whetherStalinwantsthisornot.Why?ThissecretisknowntothewifeofLenin Krupskaya.SheknowswhoTrotzkyisinfact;itisshewhopersuadedLenintoreceive Trotzky.Ifhehadnotreceivedhim,thenLeninwouldhaveremainedblockedupinSwitzerland; thisalonehadbeenforhimaseriousreason,andinadditionheknewthatTrotzkyprovided moneyandhelpedtogetacolossalinternationalassistance,aproofofthiswasthesealed train.FurthermoreitwastheresultofTrotzky'swork,andnotoftheirondeterminationofLenin thattherewastheunificationroundtheinsignificantpartyoftheBolsheviksofthewholeLeftwing revolutionarycamp,thesocialrevolutionariesandtheanarchists.Itwasnotfornothingthatthe realpartyofthe"nonparty"Trotzkywastheancient"Bund"oftheJewishproletariat,from whichemergedalltheMoscowrevolutionarybranches,andtowhomitgave90%ofitsleaders;not theofficialandwellknownBund,butthesecretBundwhichhadbeeninfiltratedintoallthe Socialistparties,theleadersofwhichwerealmostallunderitscontrol. G.AndKerenskytoo? R.Kerenskytoo...,andalsosomeotherleaderswhowerenotSocialists,theleadersofthe bourgeoispoliticalfractions. G.Howisthat? R.Youforgetabouttheroleoffreemasonryinthefirstphaseofthedemocraticbourgeois revolution? G.WeretheyalsocontrolledbytheBund? R.Naturally,astheneareststep,butinfactsubjectto"Them." G.DespitetherisingtideofMarxismwhichalsothreatenedtheirlivesandprivileges? R.Despiteallthat;obviouslytheydidnotseethatdanger.Bearinmindthateverymasonsawand hopedtoseeinhisimaginationmorethattherewasinreality,becauseheimaginedthatwhichwas profitableforhim.Asaproofofthepoliticalpoweroftheirassociationtheysawthatmasonswere ingovernmentsandatthepinnacleoftheStatesofthebourgeoisnations,whiletheirnumbers weregrowingallthetime.BearinmindthatatthattimetherulersofalltheAlliednationswere freemasons,withveryfewexceptions.Thiswastothemanargumentofgreatforce.Theyfully believedthattherevolutionwouldstopatthebourgeoisrepublicoftheFrenchtype. G.InaccordancewiththepicturewhichwasgivenoftheRussiaof1917onehadtobeaverynaive

persontobelieveallthis... {p.30}R.Theywereandaresuch.Masonshadlearnednothingfromthatfirstlessonwhich, forthem,hadbeentheGreatRevolution,inwhichtheyplayedacolossalrevolutionaryrole;it consumedthemajorityofmasons,beginningwiththeGrandMasteroftheOrleansLodge,more correctlythefreemasonLouisXVI,inorderthentocontinuetodestroytheGirondistes,the Hebertistes,theJacoboinsetc.....andifsomesurviveditwasduetothemonthofBrumaire. G.Doyouwanttosaythatthefreemasonshavetodieatthehandsoftherevolutionwhichhas beenbroughtaboutwiththeircooperation? R.Exactlyso.Youhaveformulatedatruthwhichisveiledbyagreatsecret.Iamamason,you alreadyknewaboutthat.Isthatnotso?Well,Ishalltellyouthisgreatsecret,whichtheypromiseto disclosetoamasoninoneofthehigherdegrees,butwhichisnotdisclosedtohimeitherinthe 25th,northe33rd,northe93rd,noranyotherhighlevelofanyritual.ItisclearthatIknowofthis notasafreemason,butasonewhobelongsto"Them"... G.Andwhatisit? R.Everymasonicorganizationtriestoattainandtocreatealltherequiredprerequisitesfor thetriumphoftheCommunistrevolution;thisistheobviousaimoffreemasonry;itisclearthat allthisisdoneundervariouspretexts;buttheyalwaysconcealthemselvesbehindtheirwell knowntrebleslogan.(Liberty,Equality,FraternityTransl.)Youunderstand?Butsincethe Communistrevolutionhasinmindtheliquidation,asaclass,ofthewholebourgeoisie,thephysical destructionofallbourgeoispoliticalrulers,itfollowsthattherealsecretofmasonryisthesuicide offreemasonryasanorganization,andthephysicalsuicideofeverymoreimportantmason.You can,ofcourse,understandthatsuchanend,whichisbeingpreparedforeverymason,fullydeserves thesecrecy,decorativenessandtheinclusionofyetanotherwhoieseriesofsecrets,withaviewto concealingtherealone.Ifonedayyouweretobepresentatsomefuturerevolutionthendonotmiss theopportunityofobservingthegesturesofsurpriseandtheexpressionofstupidityonthefaceof somefreemasonatthemomentwhenherealisesthathemustdieatthehandsoftherevolutionaries. Howhescreamsandwantsthatoneshouldvaluehisservicestotherevolution!Itisasightatwhich onecandie...butoflaughter. G.Andyoustilldenytheinbornstupidityofthebourgeoisie? R.Idenyitinthebourgeoisieasaclass,butnotincertainsectors.Theexistenceofmadhouses doesnotproveuniversalmadness.Freemasonryisalsoamadhouse,butatliberty.ButIcontinue further:therevolutionhasbeenvictorious,theseizureofpowerhasbeenachieved.Therearisesthe firstproblem,peace,andwithitthefirstdifferenceswithintheparty,inwhichthereparticipatethe forcesofthecoalition,whichtakesadvantageofpower.Ishallnotexplaintoyouthatwhichiswell knownaboutthestrugglewhichdevelopedinMoscowbetweentheadherentsandopponentsofthe peaceofBrestLitovsk.Ishallonlypointouttoyouthatwhichhadalreadybecomeevidentthen andwaslatercalledtheTrotzkvistopposition,i.e.thesearethepeople,apartofwhomhave alreadybeenliquidatedandtheotherpartistobeliquidated:theywereallagainstthesigningof thepeacetreaty.ThatpeacewasamistakeandanunconsciousbetrayalbyLeninofthe {p.31}InternationalRevolution.ImaginetoyourselftheBolsheviksinVersaillesatthePeace Conference,andthenintheLeagueofNations,findingthemselvesinsideGermanywiththe RedArmy,whichhadbeenarmedandincreasedbytheAllies.TheSovietStateshouldhave participatedwitharmsintheGermanrevolution...QuiteanothermapofEuropewouldthen haveemerged.ButLenin,intoxicatedwithpower,withthehelpofStalin,whohadalsotastedthe fruitsofpowersupportedbythenationalRussianwingoftheparty,havingattheirdisposalthe

materialrecources,enforcedtheirwill.Thenwasborn"Socialisminonecountry,"i.e.National Communism,whichhastodayreacheditsapogeeunderStalin.Itisobviousthattherewasa struggle,butonlyinsuchaformandextentthattheCommunistStateshouldnotbedestroyed;this conditionwasbindingontheoppositionduringthewholetimeofitsfurtherstrugglerightuptothe presentday.Thiswasthereasonforourfirstfailureandallthosewhichfollowed.Butthefightwas severe,cruel,althoughconcealedinordernottocompromiseourparticipationinpower.Trotzky organized,withthehelpofhisfriends,theattemptonLenin'slifebyKaplan.Onhisorders BlumkinkilledtheambassadorMirbach.Thecoupd'etatwhichwaspreparedbySpiridonova withhersocialrevolutionarieshadbeencoordinatedwithTrotzky.Hismanforalltheseaffairs, whowasimmunefromallsuspicions,wasthatRosenblum,aLithuanianJew,whousedthe nameofO'Reilly,andwasknownasthebestspyoftheBritishIntelligence.Infacthewasaman from"Them."ThereasonwhythisfamousRosenblumwaschosen,whowasknownonlyasa Britishspy,wasthatincaseoffailuretheresponsibilityforassassinationsandconspiracieswould fallnotonTrotzky,andnotonus,butonEngland.Soithappened.ThankstotheCivilWarwe rejectedconspiratorialandterroristmethodsasweweregiventhechanceofhavinginourhandsthe realforcesoftheState,insofarasTrotzkybecametheorganizerandchiefoftheSovietArmy; beforethatthearmyhadcontinuouslyretreatedbeforetheWhitesandtheterritoryoftheUSSRwas reducedtothesizeoftheformerMoscowPrincipality.Buthere,asifbymagic,itbeginstowin. Whatdoyouthink,why?Astheresultofmagicorchance?Ishalltellyou:whenTrotzkytookover thetopcommandoftheRedArmythenhehadbythisinhishandstheforcesnecessarytoseize power.Aseriesofvictorieswastoincreasehisprestigeandforces:itwasalreadypossibletodefeat theWhites.Doyouthinkthatthatofficialhistorywastruewhichascribestotheunarmedandill disciplinedRedArmythefactthatwithitshelptherewasachievedaseriesofvictories? G.Buttowhomthen? R.Totheextentofninetypercenttheywereindebtedto"Them."Youmustnotforgetthatthe Whiteswere,intheirway,democratic.TheMenshevikswerewiththemandtheremnantsofallthe oldLiberalparties.Insidetheseforces"They"alwayshadintheirservicemanypeople,consciously andunconsciously.WhenTrotzkybegantocommandthenthesepeoplewereordered systematicallytobetraytheWhitesandatthesametimetheywerepromisedparticipation,ina moreorlessshorttime,intheSovietGovernment.Maiskywasoneofthosepeople,oneofthefew inthecaseofwhichthispromisewascarriedout,buthewasabletoachievethisonlyafterStalin hadbecomeconvincedofhisloyalty.Thissabotage,linkedwithaprogressivediminutionofthe helpoftheAlliestotheWhitegenerals,whoapartfromallthat {p.32}werelucklessidiots,forcedthemtoexperiencedefeatafterdefeat.FinallyWilson introducedinhisfamous14PointsPoint6,*{seefootnotebelow}theexistenceofwhichwas enoughinordertobringtoanendonceandforalltheattemptsoftheWhitestofightagainst theUSSR.TheCivilWarstrengthensthepositionofTrotzkyastheheirofLenin.Soitwas withoutanydoubt.Theoldrevolutionarycouldnowdie,havingacquiredfame.Ifheremainedalive afterthebulletofKaplan,hedidnotemergealiveafterthesecretprocessoftheforcibleendingof hislife,towhichhewassubjected. f.Trotskyshortenedhislife?Thisisabigfavourablepointforourtrial!WasitnotLevinwhowas Lenin'sdoctor? R.Trotzky?...Itisprobablethatheparti