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Immigration Vs Student Visa

Gone are the days w hen immigration to Australia and Canada w ere as easier as only a BCom pass could

easily become the resident of these tw o developed countries Now a days the scenario has completely

turned around Specially for our ICMAP members dreaming for these tw o countries is just like tw o poles apart

For instance Australia needs atleast 7 bands in each module of IELTs and even after having achieved 8

bands one of our members application w as turned dow n on the grounds that a basic accounting theory

paper w as not covered by the ICMAP curriculum though it w as not diff icult for him to pass that paper now

but in that case all his lifetime job experience w ould go in vaint and only that job experience w ould have been

counted w hich w ould be subsequent to that paper suggested by the Australian Authority If w e w ant to apply

for Canadian immigration they need our ICMAP exams scripts to be sent directly to the World Education

Service against a particular reference number for each candidate but the dilema is that despite making several

attempts over the period of last four months our Examination department of the ICMAP is still un-successful in

determining the mystery of how can this reference number can be generated for a member w hose transcripts

are sent to the WES

Unfortunately our members can not apply for australian immigration as an accountant merely on the grounds

of lacking a very easy accounting theory paper in our curriculum w hich in the opinion of the Australian authority

is never taught to the ICMAP members Similarly if w e opt for canada w e just pray to Allah specially in the

month of Ramadan to give courage to our Examination department and ease its diff iculty by making them

successful in f inding the w ays that how can a unique WES reference number can be pulled out for individual

candidates Ameen In this scenario is it feasible for any of our member to go to Australia on Student Visa

One of the leading consultants of australia w as saying that for ICMAP members it is very advisable today to

come on Student Visd a and get admission in MCOM program gain exemptions in CPA papers and easily do

CPA australia meanw hile they can apply for immigration as w ell even during student visa they are allow ed 20

hours legally to w ork but normally students w ork more that this and easily earn their bread and butter there

coupled w ith the high chance to become resident of Australia If this is true then w hich University is best w hich

w ill also allow the family to be accompanied w ith the member and how much cost and risk involved in this

w ay

Dont underestimate the potential of getting struck w ith a student visa amp a odd job Consultants may or may not

be correct but its obvious that its in their best interest for you to apply ANY visa of ANY country Immigration is

a life-changing decision and our lack of patience coupled w ith over-excitment can lead to f law ed

decisionsPatience is virtue

Shargeel Khalids query is unansw eredI request members especially from AustraliaCanada should

respond to Khalid question Would it be feasible to opt for Student Visa as route to Resident w hile sacrif icing

job and family distance Regards

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Nusrat - It w as to add a red f lag along the route to immigrationVisa (of any type) amongst various green amp

golden f lags lined up by immigration consultants I hope you got the point this time Regards

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golden f lags lined up by immigration consultants I hope you got the point this time Regards

dont be optimistic Here are so many students from India and Pakistan w ho are trying to get PR for the last 5 to

6 years but in vain They are also w asting money in marriages w ith English females

Dear Akram do you w ant to say that even after getting married australian embassy is not giving them PR How

comes Then how are they able to live there for f ive to six years if they dont ve PR

Dear Khalid do you know w hat are the bands requirements for MCOMMBA in australia Furthermore w hy to

take admission in MCOM Why not CPACA directly

w hen first tenure of their studentship is ended they try to extend their visa by taking admission in another

degree and incur heavy fees As far as marriage is concerned after marriage you can not save money and

sent home Your w hole money w ill be expensed on them

Can any body please give me straight reply Student visa Vs Immigration If some one is f inding diff icultites to

get immigration can he go on student visa specially if he is ICMAP member then

Futhermore Khalid bhai can pls further elaborate under w hich sallybus scheme that particular member w ho got

his assessment from CPA appearedMoreover how w ill he be able to appear in that particular paper and

through w hich professional body

I think but for sure he w as under old scheme 1998 and he applied to CPA

Then might be scenario for 2005 scheme be different

SHARGEEL AKRAM

July 25 2013 0510 PM

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HAJI ADNAN UL HAQ

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KHALID RIAZ

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HAJI ADNAN UL HAQ

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Khalid in my opinion if a member is in the age limit of 24 to 26 years and he is unmarried he can take the

route of study visa leasing to PR but if member age is 30 and above he should only go for immigration route not

on student visa From age 26-30 they have both options and can chose as per their needs The same is based

on experience and many of my friends staying in overseas As this is life changing decision and must be

executed at the age of 24-25 years

Coming on student visa and w aiting for PR needs lots and lots of patience w hich is not easy at all I strongly

recommend to opt only the immigration channel yes this w ay also need struggle but at least one is in comfort

zone and have just to focus on earning and settling Study channel w as easy previously before GFC to come

on student visa and get settled but now DIAC has made it complicated by raising IELTS score to 8 Master

education needs lot of money and student w ho come here on student visa w ork hard to pay fees of $8k - 10k

per semester w hile w orking different odd jobs It might be w orkable before certain age as Abdul Rehman

mentioned but after passing 30 - 32 it is not recommended at all I am not sure of current assessment

equivalency for CMAs but previously all of three accounting bodies w ere giving Bachelor degree equivalence

w hich w as suff icient to apply for immigration

Dear Amjad As for as I know IELTS requirement depends on university requirements Can you elaborate

further

I agreed w ith the analysis of Mr Abdul Rehman As most of our members get membership of ICMAP at the age

of 30 or above so PR route is strongly recommended

I agreed w ith the analysis of Mr Abdul Rehman As most of our members get membership of ICMAP at the age

of 30 or above so PR route is strongly recommended

IELTS academic is required for study visa w hich obviously depends on uni requirement For immigration general

IELTS is required w hich w as 7 in each couple of years back I am not sure about the latest requirement Those

w ho come on student visa and later apply for PR need to take tw o IELTS first one to get the admission in uni ie

IELTS academic and the second one w hile applying for PR ie IELTS general One of my friend w ho couple of

months back got PR after completing the study told me that current requirement is 8 each

Amjad bhai CPAICA australia require academic IELTS to assess the degree So I think for accountants only one

IELTS w hich is academic is applicable 8 each is only required if someone is in short of points Otherw ise 7

each allow s to get 10 points

Khalid Riaz sb pls share member email address w ho got his degree assessed

HAJI ADNAN UL HAQ

July 26 2013 0900 PM

ABDUL REHMAN

July 28 2013 0941 AM

MUHAMMAD AMJAD

July 28 2013 0827 PM

HAJI ADNAN UL HAQ

July 29 2013 0103 PM

MUHAMMAD AKRAM

July 29 2013 0749 PM

MUHAMMAD AKRAM

July 29 2013 0754 PM

MUHAMMAD AMJAD

July 30 2013 0827 AM

HAJI ADNAN UL HAQ

July 30 2013 1053 AM

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For maintaining profeessional ethics I cant disclose that members name email address w ithout f irst obtaining

his consent I hope that particular member is also reading these above posts and he w ill himself come here to

share his experience w ith all of us w hich w ill definitely benefit other members also

-

Can any body guide this as how to create account and generate Reference number in WES w eb site

In my opinion now a days getting a student visa for Canada is more easier than immigration It is my suggestion

if anybody w ants to come to Canada heshe should go for student visa (But it requires lots of buck) Try to get

admission in English Language Courses (Sheridan College Humber College Seneca College Centennial College

- popular colleges in GTA-Greater Toronto Area) if the only purpose is to get PR Thanks

Dear Mr Khaleeq Thank you for your information How ever can you please elaborate your last sentence

regarding English Language Admission and PR Regards

Dear Nusrat I meant to say it is very easy to get admission in English Language Courses rather than other

courses (Due to various formalities like IELTS Tofel etc) Once you are here you can sw itch to other courses

as per your need and desire To be eligible to apply for PR - Permanent Residency Student must take admission

in to tw o years duration courses Moreover kindly complete CIMA before landing here in Canada to get the full

benefit of MOU betw een CMA-Ontario and CIMA

Thank you for your clarif ication I hope it w ould be beneficial for those seeking to immigrate to Canada Regards

HAJI ADNAN UL HAQ

July 30 2013 1138 AM

KHALID RIAZ

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NUSRAT HUSSAIN

August 11 2013 1241

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KHALEEQ UR RAHMAN

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golden f lags lined up by immigration consultants I hope you got the point this time Regards

dont be optimistic Here are so many students from India and Pakistan w ho are trying to get PR for the last 5 to

6 years but in vain They are also w asting money in marriages w ith English females

Dear Akram do you w ant to say that even after getting married australian embassy is not giving them PR How

comes Then how are they able to live there for f ive to six years if they dont ve PR

Dear Khalid do you know w hat are the bands requirements for MCOMMBA in australia Furthermore w hy to

take admission in MCOM Why not CPACA directly

w hen first tenure of their studentship is ended they try to extend their visa by taking admission in another

degree and incur heavy fees As far as marriage is concerned after marriage you can not save money and

sent home Your w hole money w ill be expensed on them

Can any body please give me straight reply Student visa Vs Immigration If some one is f inding diff icultites to

get immigration can he go on student visa specially if he is ICMAP member then

Futhermore Khalid bhai can pls further elaborate under w hich sallybus scheme that particular member w ho got

his assessment from CPA appearedMoreover how w ill he be able to appear in that particular paper and

through w hich professional body

I think but for sure he w as under old scheme 1998 and he applied to CPA

Then might be scenario for 2005 scheme be different

SHARGEEL AKRAM

July 25 2013 0510 PM

MUHAMMAD AKRAM

July 25 2013 0841 PM

HAJI ADNAN UL HAQ

July 26 2013 1234 AM

HAJI ADNAN UL HAQ

July 26 2013 1236 AM

MUHAMMAD AKRAM

July 26 2013 0305 AM

KHALID RIAZ

July 26 2013 0447 AM

HAJI ADNAN UL HAQ

July 26 2013 1012 AM

KHALID RIAZ

July 26 2013 0622 PM

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Khalid in my opinion if a member is in the age limit of 24 to 26 years and he is unmarried he can take the

route of study visa leasing to PR but if member age is 30 and above he should only go for immigration route not

on student visa From age 26-30 they have both options and can chose as per their needs The same is based

on experience and many of my friends staying in overseas As this is life changing decision and must be

executed at the age of 24-25 years

Coming on student visa and w aiting for PR needs lots and lots of patience w hich is not easy at all I strongly

recommend to opt only the immigration channel yes this w ay also need struggle but at least one is in comfort

zone and have just to focus on earning and settling Study channel w as easy previously before GFC to come

on student visa and get settled but now DIAC has made it complicated by raising IELTS score to 8 Master

education needs lot of money and student w ho come here on student visa w ork hard to pay fees of $8k - 10k

per semester w hile w orking different odd jobs It might be w orkable before certain age as Abdul Rehman

mentioned but after passing 30 - 32 it is not recommended at all I am not sure of current assessment

equivalency for CMAs but previously all of three accounting bodies w ere giving Bachelor degree equivalence

w hich w as suff icient to apply for immigration

Dear Amjad As for as I know IELTS requirement depends on university requirements Can you elaborate

further

I agreed w ith the analysis of Mr Abdul Rehman As most of our members get membership of ICMAP at the age

of 30 or above so PR route is strongly recommended

I agreed w ith the analysis of Mr Abdul Rehman As most of our members get membership of ICMAP at the age

of 30 or above so PR route is strongly recommended

IELTS academic is required for study visa w hich obviously depends on uni requirement For immigration general

IELTS is required w hich w as 7 in each couple of years back I am not sure about the latest requirement Those

w ho come on student visa and later apply for PR need to take tw o IELTS first one to get the admission in uni ie

IELTS academic and the second one w hile applying for PR ie IELTS general One of my friend w ho couple of

months back got PR after completing the study told me that current requirement is 8 each

Amjad bhai CPAICA australia require academic IELTS to assess the degree So I think for accountants only one

IELTS w hich is academic is applicable 8 each is only required if someone is in short of points Otherw ise 7

each allow s to get 10 points

Khalid Riaz sb pls share member email address w ho got his degree assessed

HAJI ADNAN UL HAQ

July 26 2013 0900 PM

ABDUL REHMAN

July 28 2013 0941 AM

MUHAMMAD AMJAD

July 28 2013 0827 PM

HAJI ADNAN UL HAQ

July 29 2013 0103 PM

MUHAMMAD AKRAM

July 29 2013 0749 PM

MUHAMMAD AKRAM

July 29 2013 0754 PM

MUHAMMAD AMJAD

July 30 2013 0827 AM

HAJI ADNAN UL HAQ

July 30 2013 1053 AM

1142014 Forum Section - Replies

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For maintaining profeessional ethics I cant disclose that members name email address w ithout f irst obtaining

his consent I hope that particular member is also reading these above posts and he w ill himself come here to

share his experience w ith all of us w hich w ill definitely benefit other members also

-

Can any body guide this as how to create account and generate Reference number in WES w eb site

In my opinion now a days getting a student visa for Canada is more easier than immigration It is my suggestion

if anybody w ants to come to Canada heshe should go for student visa (But it requires lots of buck) Try to get

admission in English Language Courses (Sheridan College Humber College Seneca College Centennial College

- popular colleges in GTA-Greater Toronto Area) if the only purpose is to get PR Thanks

Dear Mr Khaleeq Thank you for your information How ever can you please elaborate your last sentence

regarding English Language Admission and PR Regards

Dear Nusrat I meant to say it is very easy to get admission in English Language Courses rather than other

courses (Due to various formalities like IELTS Tofel etc) Once you are here you can sw itch to other courses

as per your need and desire To be eligible to apply for PR - Permanent Residency Student must take admission

in to tw o years duration courses Moreover kindly complete CIMA before landing here in Canada to get the full

benefit of MOU betw een CMA-Ontario and CIMA

Thank you for your clarif ication I hope it w ould be beneficial for those seeking to immigrate to Canada Regards

HAJI ADNAN UL HAQ

July 30 2013 1138 AM

KHALID RIAZ

July 31 2013 0651 PM

KHALID RIAZ

July 31 2013 0651 PM

KHALID RIAZ

August 02 2013 0206

AM

KHALEEQ UR RAHMAN

August 09 2013 0816

PM

NUSRAT HUSSAIN

August 11 2013 1241

PM

KHALEEQ UR RAHMAN

August 14 2013 1029

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NUSRAT HUSSAIN

August 15 2013 1216

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Khalid in my opinion if a member is in the age limit of 24 to 26 years and he is unmarried he can take the

route of study visa leasing to PR but if member age is 30 and above he should only go for immigration route not

on student visa From age 26-30 they have both options and can chose as per their needs The same is based

on experience and many of my friends staying in overseas As this is life changing decision and must be

executed at the age of 24-25 years

Coming on student visa and w aiting for PR needs lots and lots of patience w hich is not easy at all I strongly

recommend to opt only the immigration channel yes this w ay also need struggle but at least one is in comfort

zone and have just to focus on earning and settling Study channel w as easy previously before GFC to come

on student visa and get settled but now DIAC has made it complicated by raising IELTS score to 8 Master

education needs lot of money and student w ho come here on student visa w ork hard to pay fees of $8k - 10k

per semester w hile w orking different odd jobs It might be w orkable before certain age as Abdul Rehman

mentioned but after passing 30 - 32 it is not recommended at all I am not sure of current assessment

equivalency for CMAs but previously all of three accounting bodies w ere giving Bachelor degree equivalence

w hich w as suff icient to apply for immigration

Dear Amjad As for as I know IELTS requirement depends on university requirements Can you elaborate

further

I agreed w ith the analysis of Mr Abdul Rehman As most of our members get membership of ICMAP at the age

of 30 or above so PR route is strongly recommended

I agreed w ith the analysis of Mr Abdul Rehman As most of our members get membership of ICMAP at the age

of 30 or above so PR route is strongly recommended

IELTS academic is required for study visa w hich obviously depends on uni requirement For immigration general

IELTS is required w hich w as 7 in each couple of years back I am not sure about the latest requirement Those

w ho come on student visa and later apply for PR need to take tw o IELTS first one to get the admission in uni ie

IELTS academic and the second one w hile applying for PR ie IELTS general One of my friend w ho couple of

months back got PR after completing the study told me that current requirement is 8 each

Amjad bhai CPAICA australia require academic IELTS to assess the degree So I think for accountants only one

IELTS w hich is academic is applicable 8 each is only required if someone is in short of points Otherw ise 7

each allow s to get 10 points

Khalid Riaz sb pls share member email address w ho got his degree assessed

HAJI ADNAN UL HAQ

July 26 2013 0900 PM

ABDUL REHMAN

July 28 2013 0941 AM

MUHAMMAD AMJAD

July 28 2013 0827 PM

HAJI ADNAN UL HAQ

July 29 2013 0103 PM

MUHAMMAD AKRAM

July 29 2013 0749 PM

MUHAMMAD AKRAM

July 29 2013 0754 PM

MUHAMMAD AMJAD

July 30 2013 0827 AM

HAJI ADNAN UL HAQ

July 30 2013 1053 AM

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For maintaining profeessional ethics I cant disclose that members name email address w ithout f irst obtaining

his consent I hope that particular member is also reading these above posts and he w ill himself come here to

share his experience w ith all of us w hich w ill definitely benefit other members also

-

Can any body guide this as how to create account and generate Reference number in WES w eb site

In my opinion now a days getting a student visa for Canada is more easier than immigration It is my suggestion

if anybody w ants to come to Canada heshe should go for student visa (But it requires lots of buck) Try to get

admission in English Language Courses (Sheridan College Humber College Seneca College Centennial College

- popular colleges in GTA-Greater Toronto Area) if the only purpose is to get PR Thanks

Dear Mr Khaleeq Thank you for your information How ever can you please elaborate your last sentence

regarding English Language Admission and PR Regards

Dear Nusrat I meant to say it is very easy to get admission in English Language Courses rather than other

courses (Due to various formalities like IELTS Tofel etc) Once you are here you can sw itch to other courses

as per your need and desire To be eligible to apply for PR - Permanent Residency Student must take admission

in to tw o years duration courses Moreover kindly complete CIMA before landing here in Canada to get the full

benefit of MOU betw een CMA-Ontario and CIMA

Thank you for your clarif ication I hope it w ould be beneficial for those seeking to immigrate to Canada Regards

HAJI ADNAN UL HAQ

July 30 2013 1138 AM

KHALID RIAZ

July 31 2013 0651 PM

KHALID RIAZ

July 31 2013 0651 PM

KHALID RIAZ

August 02 2013 0206

AM

KHALEEQ UR RAHMAN

August 09 2013 0816

PM

NUSRAT HUSSAIN

August 11 2013 1241

PM

KHALEEQ UR RAHMAN

August 14 2013 1029

PM

NUSRAT HUSSAIN

August 15 2013 1216

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For maintaining profeessional ethics I cant disclose that members name email address w ithout f irst obtaining

his consent I hope that particular member is also reading these above posts and he w ill himself come here to

share his experience w ith all of us w hich w ill definitely benefit other members also

-

Can any body guide this as how to create account and generate Reference number in WES w eb site

In my opinion now a days getting a student visa for Canada is more easier than immigration It is my suggestion

if anybody w ants to come to Canada heshe should go for student visa (But it requires lots of buck) Try to get

admission in English Language Courses (Sheridan College Humber College Seneca College Centennial College

- popular colleges in GTA-Greater Toronto Area) if the only purpose is to get PR Thanks

Dear Mr Khaleeq Thank you for your information How ever can you please elaborate your last sentence

regarding English Language Admission and PR Regards

Dear Nusrat I meant to say it is very easy to get admission in English Language Courses rather than other

courses (Due to various formalities like IELTS Tofel etc) Once you are here you can sw itch to other courses

as per your need and desire To be eligible to apply for PR - Permanent Residency Student must take admission

in to tw o years duration courses Moreover kindly complete CIMA before landing here in Canada to get the full

benefit of MOU betw een CMA-Ontario and CIMA

Thank you for your clarif ication I hope it w ould be beneficial for those seeking to immigrate to Canada Regards

HAJI ADNAN UL HAQ

July 30 2013 1138 AM

KHALID RIAZ

July 31 2013 0651 PM

KHALID RIAZ

July 31 2013 0651 PM

KHALID RIAZ

August 02 2013 0206

AM

KHALEEQ UR RAHMAN

August 09 2013 0816

PM

NUSRAT HUSSAIN

August 11 2013 1241

PM

KHALEEQ UR RAHMAN

August 14 2013 1029

PM

NUSRAT HUSSAIN

August 15 2013 1216

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