Agenda
NFPA Technical Committee on Fire Tests Fall 2012 Report on Comments
Tuesday, April 3, 2012 – 8:00 AM to 5:00 PM (EDT) Embassy Suites Baltimore – at BWI Airport
1300 Concourse Drive Linthicum, MD
(Optional Microsoft Live Meeting/Teleconference)
1. Call to order 8:00 AM, April 3, 2012 – B. Badders
2. Self-introduction of members and guests, see page 2.
3. Approval of July 13, 2011 meeting minutes, see page 5.
4. Chair’s report – B. Badders
5. Staff liaison’s report – T. Golinveaux
6. NFPA 259 comments, see page 10.
7. NFPA 270 comment, see page 11.
8. NFPA 289 comments, see page 12.
Please note NFPA 260, NFPA 261, NFPA 274, NFPA 290 and NFPA 705 did not receive any public comments.
9. Review fire test document revision matrix, see page 18.
10. Other business.
i) NFPA 275 NITMAM
ii) Standards Council decision on new screening document for textiles, see page 20.
11. Next meeting -F2014 First Draft Meeting (New Process)
-Public Input Closing Date: January 4, 2013
-Final date for TC Meeting: June 14, 2013
-Suggested Date and Location
12. Adjourn by 5:00 PM on Tuesday, April 3, 2012.
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Address List No PhoneFire Tests FIZ-AAA
Tracy L. Golinveaux03/16/2012
FIZ-AAA
Barry L. Badders, Jr.
ChairSouthwest Research Institute6220 Culebra RoadSan Antonio, TX 78238-5166Alternate: Marc L. Janssens
RT 4/14/2005FIZ-AAA
Farid Alfawakhiri
PrincipalAmerican Iron and Steel Institute380 Cottonwood LaneNaperville, IL 60540Alternate: Robert J. Wills
M 7/28/2006
FIZ-AAA
Jesse J. Beitel
PrincipalHughes Associates, Inc.3610 Commerce Drive, Suite 817Baltimore, MD 21227-1652Alternate: Arthur J. Parker
SE 1/1/1980FIZ-AAA
Rhonda P. Byrne
PrincipalQAI Laboratories8385 White Oak AvenueRancho Cucamonga, CA 91730
RT 8/9/2011
FIZ-AAA
Gordon H. Damant
PrincipalInter-City Testing & Consulting Corp. of California3550 Watt Avenue, Suite 5Sacramento, CA 95821
SE 7/20/2000FIZ-AAA
William E. Fitch
PrincipalPhyrefish Enterprises, Inc.31 SE 5th Street, Suite 3815Miami, FL 33131-2528
SE 1/1/1993
FIZ-AAA
Marcelo M. Hirschler
PrincipalGBH International2 Friar’s LaneMill Valley, CA 94941Alternate: Timothy Earl
SE 4/1/1996FIZ-AAA
Alfred J. Hogan
Principal3391 Lakeview Drive, SEWinter Haven, FL 33884-3172International Fire Marshals AssociationAlternate: Scott W. Adams
E 1/1/1992
FIZ-AAA
Paul A. Hough
PrincipalArmstrong World Industries, Inc.2500 Columbia AvenueLancaster, PA 17603
M 1/16/2003FIZ-AAA
Mohammed M. Khan
PrincipalFM Global1151 Boston-Providence TurnpikeNorwood, MA 02062-9102Alternate: Richard J. Davis
I 3/1/2011
FIZ-AAA
William E. Koffel
PrincipalKoffel Associates, Inc.8815 Centre Park Drive, Suite 200Columbia, MD 21045Alternate: Erik H. Anderson
SE 4/1/1996FIZ-AAA
Richard T. Long, Jr.
PrincipalExponent, Inc.17000 Science Drive, Suite 200Bowie, MD 20715Upholstered Furniture Action CouncilAlternate: Joe Ziolkowski
M 10/18/2011
FIZ-AAA
Michael E. Luna
PrincipalIntertek Testing Services16015 Shady Falls RoadElmendorf, TX 78112
RT 10/28/2008FIZ-AAA
Andre W. Marshall
PrincipalUniversity of Maryland3106 J. M. Patterson BuildingCollege Park, MD 20742-3031Alternate: Stanislav I. Stoliarov
SE 10/27/2009
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Address List No PhoneFire Tests FIZ-AAA
Tracy L. Golinveaux03/16/2012
FIZ-AAA
Rodney A. McPhee
PrincipalCanadian Wood Council99 Bank Street, Suite 400Ottawa, ON K1P 6B9 CanadaAlternate: Ineke Van Zeeland
M 7/17/1998FIZ-AAA
Kathleen A. Newman
PrincipalFiretect26951 Ruether Avenue, Unit DCanyon Country, CA 91351
M 3/2/2010
FIZ-AAA
David T. Sheppard
PrincipalUS Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms & ExplosivesFire Research Laboratory6000 Ammendale RoadAmmendale, MD 20705Alternate: Stephen P. Fuss
RT 10/3/2002FIZ-AAA
Dwayne E. Sloan
PrincipalUnderwriters Laboratories Inc.12 Laboratory DrivePO Box 13995Research Triangle Park, NC 27709-3995
RT 7/28/2006
FIZ-AAA
Kuma Sumathipala
PrincipalAmerican Forest & Paper Association1111 19th Street NW, Suite 800Washington, DC 20036American Forest & Paper AssociationAlternate: Sam W. Francis
M 7/24/1997FIZ-AAA
Rick Thornberry
PrincipalThe Code Consortium, Inc.2724 Elks WayNapa, CA 94558
SE 1/1/1980
FIZ-AAA
Robert A. Wessel
PrincipalGypsum Association6525 Belcrest Road, Suite 480Hyattsville, MD 20782
M 4/17/1998FIZ-AAA
Richard G. Gann
Voting AlternateNational Institute of Standards & Technology100 Bureau Drive, Stop 8664Gaithersburg, MD 20899-8664Voting Alt. to NIST Rep.
RT 7/1/1995
FIZ-AAA
Scott W. Adams
AlternatePark City Fire Service DistrictPO Box 980010Park City, UT 84098-0010International Fire Marshals AssociationPrincipal: Alfred J. Hogan
E 11/2/2006FIZ-AAA
Erik H. Anderson
AlternateKoffel Associates, Inc.8815 Centre Park Drive, Suite 200Columbia, MD 21045Principal: William E. Koffel
SE 03/05/2012
FIZ-AAA
Richard J. Davis
AlternateFM Global1151 Boston-Providence TurnpikePO Box 9102Norwood, MA 02062-9102Principal: Mohammed M. Khan
I 4/3/2003FIZ-AAA
Timothy Earl
AlternateGBH International6862 Shallowford WayPortage, MI 49024Principal: Marcelo M. Hirschler
SE 8/9/2011
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Address List No PhoneFire Tests FIZ-AAA
Tracy L. Golinveaux03/16/2012
FIZ-AAA
Sam W. Francis
AlternateAmerican Wood Council1 Dutton Farm LaneWest Grove, PA 19390American Forest & Paper AssociationPrincipal: Kuma Sumathipala
M 7/1/1996FIZ-AAA
Stephen P. Fuss
AlternateUS Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms & ExplosivesFire Research Laboratory6000 Ammendale RoadAmmendale, MD 20705Principal: David T. Sheppard
RT 10/18/2011
FIZ-AAA
Marc L. Janssens
AlternateSouthwest Research InstituteFire Technology6220 Culebra Road, Building 143San Antonio, TX 78238-5166Principal: Barry L. Badders, Jr.
RT 1/1/1991FIZ-AAA
Arthur J. Parker
AlternateHughes Associates, Inc.3610 Commerce Drive, Suite 817Baltimore, MD 21227-1652Principal: Jesse J. Beitel
SE 10/4/2001
FIZ-AAA
Stanislav I. Stoliarov
AlternateUniversity of Maryland3104C J. M. Patterson BuildingCollege Park, MD 20742Principal: Andre W. Marshall
SE 10/18/2011FIZ-AAA
Ineke Van Zeeland
AlternateCanadian Wood Council99 Bank Street, Suite 400Ottawa, ON K1P 6B9 CanadaPrincipal: Rodney A. McPhee
M 10/3/2002
FIZ-AAA
Robert J. Wills
AlternateAmerican Iron and Steel Institute907 Spyglass CircleBirmingham, AL 35244-2252Principal: Farid Alfawakhiri
M 1/1/1992FIZ-AAA
Joe Ziolkowski
AlternateAmerican Furniture Manufacturers Association317 West High Avenue, 10th FloorHigh Point, NC 27260Upholstered Furniture Action CouncilPrincipal: Richard T. Long, Jr.
M 1/1/1992
FIZ-AAA
Robert H. Barker
Nonvoting MemberAmerican Fiber Manufacturers Association1530 Wilson Boulevard, Suite 690Arlington , VA 22209American Fiber Manufacturers Association
M 1/1/1995FIZ-AAA
Rohit Khanna
Nonvoting MemberUS Consumer Product Safety Commission4330 East West HighwayBethesda, MD 20814
C 7/1/1997
FIZ-AAA
Tracy L. Golinveaux
Staff LiaisonNational Fire Protection Association1 Batterymarch ParkQuincy, MA 02169-7471
01/04/2010
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NFPA Technical Committee on Fire Tests FALL 2012 ROP MEETING MINUTES
July 13, 2011 Chicago, IL
1. Call to Order.
The meeting of the Technical Committee on Fire Tests was called to order by Chair Bill Fitch at 8:00 AM on Wednesday July 13th, 2011.
2. Introduction of Committee Members and Guests.
Self introductions of members and guests were completed. Those present included: TECHNICAL COMMITTEE MEMBERS PRESENT
NAME REPRESENTING
Fitch, William, Chair Phyrefish Enterprises, Inc.
Alfawakhiri, Farid, Principal American Iron and Steel Institute
Badders, Barry, Principal Southwest Research Institute
Beitel, Jesse, Principal Hughes Associates, Inc.
Golinveaux, Tracy, Staff Liaison National Fire Protection Association
Hirschler, Marcelo, Principal GBH International
Hough, Paul, Voting Alternate Voting Alt. to Armstrong World Industries, Inc.
Khan, Mohammed, Principal FM Global
Lathrop, James, Alternate to W. Koffel Koffel Associates, Inc.
Sheppard, David, Principal US Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms & Explosives Fire Research Laboratory
Sloan, Dwayne, Principal Underwriters Laboratories Inc.
Wessel, Robert, Principal Gypsum Association
Ziolkowski, Joe, Alternate to T. Hugh Talley Rep. Upholstered Furniture Action Council
GUESTS
NAME REPRESENTING
Earl, Tim GBH International
Fuss, Paul ATF
Knudtson, Lynn Polyurethane Foam Association
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TECHNICAL COMMITTEE MEMBERS NOT PRESENT
NAME REPRESENTING
Adams, Scott, Alternate to A. Hogan Park City Fire Service District Rep. International Fire Marshals Association
Damant, Gordon, Principal Inter-City Testing & Consulting Corp. of CA
Francis, Sam, Alternate to K. Sumathipala American Wood Council Rep. American Forest & Paper Association
Gann, Richard, Voting Alternate National Institute of Standards & Technology
Hogan, Alfred, Principal Rep. International Fire Marshals Association
Luna, Michael, Principal Intertek Testing Services
Marshall, Andre, Principal University of Maryland
McPhee, Rodney, Principal Canadian Wood Council
Newman, Kathleen, Principal Firetect
Sumathipala, Kuma, Principal American Forest & Paper Association Rep. American Forest & Paper Association
Thornberry, Rick, Principal The Code Consortium, Inc.
Van Zeeland, Ineke, Alternate to R. McPhee Canadian Wood Council 3. Chair’s Report.
The chair welcomed and thanked the committee members present for attending and indicated the purpose of the meeting was to prepare the Reports on Proposals for the Fall 2012 revision cycle documents.
Staff briefly reviewed the purpose of the meeting and NFPA procedures. By the end of the meeting, an action would be completed for each of the public proposals that were received. The committee would also have the opportunity to develop any committee proposals to address any topics or issues related to the standards under revision. Staff reviewed the timelines for processing documents (NFPA 259, 260, 261, 270, 274, 289, 290, 705) for the F2012 cycle.
Process Step Date
Proposal Closing May 23, 2011
ROP Meeting July 13, 2011
ROP Published December 23, 2011
Comment Closing March 2, 2012
ROC Published August 24, 2012
NITMAM Closing October 5, 2012
4. Approval of Minutes.
The minutes of the March 29, 2011 meeting were approved as submitted. 5. NFPA 259 Proposals
The committee acted on the public proposals and created committee proposals. See the ROP letter ballot for the committee actions.
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6. NFPA 260 Proposals
The committee acted on the public proposals and created committee proposals. See the ROP letter ballot for the committee actions.
7. NFPA 261 Proposals The committee acted on the public proposals and created committee proposals. See the ROP letter ballot for the committee actions.
8. NFPA 270 Proposals The committee acted on the public proposals and created committee proposals. See the ROP letter ballot for the committee actions.
9. NFPA 274 Proposals The committee acted on the public proposals and created committee proposals. See the ROP letter ballot for the committee actions.
10. NFPA 289 Proposals The committee acted on the public proposals and created committee proposals. See the ROP letter ballot for the committee actions.
11. NFPA 290 Proposals The committee acted on the public proposals and created committee proposals. See the ROP letter ballot for the committee actions.
12. NFPA 705 Proposals The committee acted on the public proposals and created committee proposals. See the ROP letter ballot for the committee actions.
13. Fire Test Revision Matrix.
The committee reviewed the updated Fire Test Revision Matrix. The committee requested a few changes in the revision schedule which will be balloted and then submitted to the Standards Council for approval (See Appendix A). The chair assigned specific committee members to review and draft proposals for the F2014 documents (See Appendix B).
14. New Business.
Bill Fitch to propose new screening test for textiles to Standards Council.
15. Other Business. The committee was given an update on the Pyrotechnics committee.
16. Next Meeting Date The next meeting date will be April 3rd, 2012 in either San Antonio or Baltimore.
17. Adjournment.
The meeting was adjourned at 5:00 pm on July 13th. Minutes prepared by: Tracy Golinveaux, Staff Liaison
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Document TitleCurrent Edition
Current Cycle
Next Edition
Next Rev Cycle
Notes (Rev Cycle)
285 Evaluation of Flammability Characteristics of Exterior Non-Load-Bearing Wall Assemblies
containing Combustible Components Using the
2006 F2011 2012 F2016 Last cycle A2005 (5)Cycle changed from A2010 August 2008 - Request to withdraw from F2010 and submit ROC next available cycle 4/10. Cycle changed to
252 Fire Tests of Door Assemblies 2008 F2011 2012 F2016 Last cycle A2007 (4 5) - Cycle changed from A2011 to F2011 8/09
257 Window and Glass Block Assemblies 2007 F2011 2012 F2016 Last cycle A2006 (5) - Cycle changed from A2011 to F2011 8/09
268 Determining Ignitability of Exterior Wall Assemblies using a Radiant heat Energy Source
(Exterior Walls – Radiant Heat Test)
2007 F2011 2012 F2016 Last cycle A2006 (5) - Cycle changed from A2011 to F2011 8/09
269 Toxic Potency Data for Modeling 2007 F2011 2012 F2016 Last cycle A2006. (5) - Cycle changed from A2011 to F2011 8/09
275 Evaluation of Thermal Barriers Used Over Foam Plastic
2009 F2011 2012 F2014 F2016
Last cycle A2008 (4) - Cycle changed from A2011 to F2011 8/09
287 Measurement of Flammability of Materials in Cleanrooms Using a Fire Propagation Apparatus
(FPA)
2007 F2011 2012 F2016 Last cycle A06 (5) - Cycle changed from A2011 to F2011 8/09
288 Floor Fire Door Assemblies Installed Horizontally in Fire Resistance-Rated Floor Systems
2007 F2011 2012 F2016 Last cycle A06 (4 5) - Cycle changed from A2011 to F2011 8/09
259 Potential Heat of Building Materials 2008 F2012 2013 F2017 Last cycle A2007 (5) -Changed from A2012 to F2012
270 Smoke Obscuration Using a conical Radiant Source in a Singe Closed Chamber
2008 F2012 2013 F2017 Last cycle A2007 (5) - Changed from A2012 to F2012
289 Room Fire Growth Contribution of Individual Fuel Packages
2009 F2012 2013 F2017 Last cycle A2008 (4 5) - Changed from A2012to F2012
261 Determining Resistance of Mock-Up Upholstered Furniture material Assemblies to Ignition by
Smoldering Cigarettes
2009 F2012 2013 F2017 Last cycle A2008 (5) - Changed from A2013 to F2012
274 Method to Evaluate Fire Performance Characteristics of Pipe Insulation
2009 F2012 2013 F2017 Last cycle A2008 (5) - Changed from A2013 to F2012
290 Passive Protection Materials for Use on LP-Gas Containers
2009 F2012 2013 F2017 Last cycle A2008 (5) - Changed from A2013 to F2012
705 Field Flame Test for Textiles and Films 2009 F2012 2013 F2017 Last cycle A2008 (5) - Changed from A2013 to F2012
260 Tests and Classification System for Cigarette Ignition Resistance of Components of
Upholstered Furniture
2009 F2012 2014 F2017 Last cycle A2008 (5) - Changed from A2013 to F2012
276 Fire Test for Determining the Heat Release Rate of Combustible Building Assemblies or Above-
Deck Roofing Components
2011 F2014 2015 F2018 SC soliciting public input (Decision # 07-3-26) March 2007 - (4)SC approved request to develop standard July 2007Entered F2009 cycle - NITMAM 11/09
701 Flame Propagation of Textiles and Films 2010 F2014 2015 F2018 Last cycle F2009 (5 4)
262 Flame Travel and Smoke of Wires and Cables for use in Air-Handling Spaces
2011 F2014 2015 F2018 Last cycle A06 (4)Cycle changed from A2010 August 2008
265 Evaluating room fire Growth Contribution of Textile Coverings on full Height Panels and Walls
(Textile Room-Corner)
2011 F2014 2015 F2018 Last cycle A2006 (4)Cycle changed from A2010 August 2008
253 Critical Radiant Flux of floor covering Systems Using a Radiant Heat Energy Source
2011 F2015 F2014
2015 F2018 Last cycle A2005(5 4)Cycle changed from A2010 August 2008
286 Evaluating contribution of Wall and Ceiling Interior Finish to Room Fire Growth
2011 F2015 F2014
2015 F2018 Last cycle A2005 (5 4)Cycle changed from A2010 August 2008
251 Fire Endurance of Building Construction and Materials
Withdrawn N/A N/A N/A Withdrawn F2010
271 Heat and Visible Smoke Release Rates for Materials and Products Using an Oxygen
Consumption Calorimeter
Withdrawn N/A N/A N/A Withdrawn F2011
255 Surface Burning Characteristics of Building Materials (Tunnel Test)
Withdrawn N/A N/A N/A Withdrawn F2009
256 Roof Coverings Withdrawn N/A N/A N/A Withdrawn A2008
258 Smoke Generation of Solid Materials Withdrawn N/A N/A N/A Withdrawn A2006272 Heat and Visible Smoke Release Rates for
Upholstered Furniture Components or Composites and Mattresses Using an Oxygen Consumption
Calorimeter
Withdrawn N/A N/A N/A Withdrawn A2007
NFPA Fire Test Documents – Revision Cycles (8/11)
ISSUED WITH PREVIOUS M
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Doc #276
701
253
262
265
286 Evaluating Contribution of Wall and Ceiling Interior Finish to Room Fire Growth
ResponsibilityM. Khan
J. Beitel and M. Khan
P. Hough
M. Hirschler and D Sloan
M. Hirschler
M. Hirschler
F2014
Critical Radiant Flux of floor covering Systems Using a Radiant Heat Energy Source
Flame Travel and Smoke of Wires and Cables for use in Air-Handling Spaces
Evaluating room fire Growth Contribution of Textile Coverings on full Height Panels and Walls (Textile Room-Corner)
F2014
TitleFire Test for Determining the Heat Release Rate of Combustible Building Assemblies or Above-Deck Roofing Components
F2015 F2014
Flame Propagation of Textiles and Films
Rev Cycle
F2015 F2014
F2014
F2014
ISSUED WITH PREVIOUS M
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Report on Comments – November 2012 NFPA 259_______________________________________________________________________________________________259- Log #1
_______________________________________________________________________________________________Marcelo M. Hirschler, GBH International
259-3Revise text to read as follows:
ASTM International, 100 Barr Harbor Drive, P.O. Box C700, West Conshohocken, PA19428-2959.ASTM D 5865, Test Method for Gross Calorific Value of Coal and Coke, 2011a 2010a e1.
Standards update -
_______________________________________________________________________________________________259- Log #2
_______________________________________________________________________________________________Marcelo M. Hirschler, GBH International
259-11Revise text to read as follows:
ASTM International, 100 Barr Harbor Drive, P.O. Box C700, West Conshohocken, PA19428-2959.ASTM E 162, , 2011a
2009.ASTM E 906/E906M,
2010.ASTM E 1354,
2011 .ASTM E 1474,
, 2010.ASTM E 1537, , 2007.ASTM E 1590, , 2007
Standards update - This proposal does not address the standards not included in the list above.
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Report on Comments – November 2012 NFPA 270_______________________________________________________________________________________________270- Log #1
_______________________________________________________________________________________________Marcelo M. Hirschler, GBH International
270-2Revise text to read as follows:
E.1.2.1 ASTM Publications. ASTM International, 100 Barr Harbor Drive, P.O. Box C700, West Conshohocken, PA19428-2959.ASTM D 2843, Test Method for Density of Smoke from the Burning or Decomposition of Plastics, 2010.ASTM D 4100, Test Method for Gravimetric Determination of Smoke Particulates from Combustion of Plastic Materials,
1982 (reapproved 1989 with editorial change, discontinued 1997).ASTM D 5424, Test Method for Smoke Obscuration Caused by Burning Cables in a Vertical Configuration, 2010.ASTM E 84, Test Method for Surface Burning Characteristics of Building Materials, 2012 2010b.ASTM E 603, Guide for Room Fire Experiments, 2007.ASTM E 662, Test Method for Specific Optical Density of Smoke Generated by Solid Materials, 2009.ASTM E 906/E906M, Test Method for Heat and Visible Smoke Release Rates for Materials and Products, 2010.ASTM E 1354, Test Method for Heat and Visible Smoke Release Rates for Materials and Products Using an Oxygen
Consumption Calorimeter, 2011b.ASTM E 1474, Test Method for Determining the Heat Release Rate of Upholstered Furniture and Mattress
Components or Composites Using a Bench Scale Oxygen Consumption Calorimeter, 2010.ASTM E 1537, Test Method for Fire Testing of Real Scale Upholstered Furniture Items, 2007.ASTM E 1590, Test Method for Fire Testing of Real Scale Mattresses, 2007.
Standards update - This proposal does not address the standards not included in the list above.
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Report on Comments – November 2012 NFPA 289_______________________________________________________________________________________________289- Log #4
_______________________________________________________________________________________________Rick Thornberry, Rick Thornberry, FPE
289-5Delete the proposed revisions to Section 4.1.7 and the proposed new Section 4.1.8 in its entirety.
This test method is mainly intended to be referenced by model codes and standards for their purposesof regulating the combustibility of materials in specific applications. Allowing for alternative ignition sources will tend tomake this test method more variable and less standardized, thus resulting in less reproducibility. The proponent shouldconsider developing a new test method for the “purpose of forensic fire reconstruction or research” based on this testmethod, rather than trying to revise this test method to meet his specific needs. Furthermore, the Committee Statementdoes not address the proponent’s request, but rather indicates that the test method is appropriate for product evaluationand acceptance which is consistent with my reason for rejecting this Proposal.
_______________________________________________________________________________________________289- Log #5
_______________________________________________________________________________________________Rick Thornberry, Rick Thornberry, FPE
289-6Delete proposed new Section 4.1.8 in its entirety.
See my reason in my Public Comment for rejecting Proposal 289-5.
_______________________________________________________________________________________________289- Log #6
_______________________________________________________________________________________________Rick Thornberry, Rick Thornberry, FPE
289-7Delete proposed new Section 5.1.7 in its entirety.
Establishing a specified heat flux exposure goes beyond the purpose and intent of this test method.The codes and standards that choose to reference this test method should be responsible for determining theappropriate test exposure, as well as the acceptance criteria, since they have the expertise and the need to do so for thepurpose of regulating or controlling the combustibility of materials for specific applications. The Fire Tests TechnicalCommittee’s expertise is in developing the fire test procedures in a standardized form so that repeatable andreproducible results are obtained and the tests can then be referenced by authorities having jurisdiction as needed tomeet their specific needs.
_______________________________________________________________________________________________289- Log #1
_______________________________________________________________________________________________Marcelo M. Hirschler, GBH International
289-7Revise text to read
5.1.7* Decorative objects shall be tested using the ignition source at an initial power level of 20 kW.A.5.1.7 When the fire tests of decorative objects are used for research purposes, if a determination is made that the
heat input to the fuel package was insufficient for proper assessment when testing at a particular power level, such as20 kW, the fuel package should be retested at a higher power level.
Guidance should be given with regard to research with this test, as to when it is important to useignition sources more severe than the one originally used. That is the point of having a test with multiple standardignition sources.
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Report on Comments – November 2012 NFPA 289_______________________________________________________________________________________________289- Log #7
_______________________________________________________________________________________________Rick Thornberry, Rick Thornberry, FPE
289-8Delete proposed new Section 5.2.3 in its entirety.
See my reason in my Public Comment for rejecting Proposal 289-7.
_______________________________________________________________________________________________289- Log #2
_______________________________________________________________________________________________Marcelo M. Hirschler, GBH International
289-8Revise text to read as follows:
5.2.3* Exhibit booths shall be tested using the ignition source at an initial power level of 20 kW.A.5.2.3 When the fire tests of exhibit booths are used for research purposes, if a determination is made that the heat
input to the fuel package was insufficient for proper assessment when testing at a particular power level, such as 20 kW,the fuel package should be retested at a higher power level.
Guidance should be given with regard to research with this test, as to when it is important to useignition sources more severe than the one originally used. That is the point of having a test with multiple standardignition sources.
_______________________________________________________________________________________________289- Log #8
_______________________________________________________________________________________________Rick Thornberry, Rick Thornberry, FPE
289-9Delete proposed new Section 5.3.5 in its entirety.
See my reason in my Public Comment for rejecting Proposal 289-7.
_______________________________________________________________________________________________289- Log #3
_______________________________________________________________________________________________Marcelo M. Hirschler, GBH International
289-9Revise text to read as follows:
5.3.5* Theater, motion picture and television stage settings shall be tested using the ignition source at an initial powerlevel of 20 kW.A.5.2.3 When the fire tests of theater, motion picture and television stage settings are used for research purposes, if a
determination is made that the heat input to the fuel package was insufficient for proper assessment when testing at aparticular power level, such as 20 kW, the fuel package should be retested at a higher power level.
Guidance should be given with regard to research with this test, as to when it is important to useignition sources more severe than the one originally used. That is the point of having a test with multiple standardignition sources.
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Report on Comments – November 2012 NFPA 289_______________________________________________________________________________________________289- Log #9
_______________________________________________________________________________________________Rick Thornberry, Rick Thornberry, FPE
289-10Delete proposed new Section 5.4 in its entirety.
See my reason in my Public Comment for rejecting Proposal 289-7. I also have concerns about thewording in 5.4 which I consider to be vague and ambiguous. For example, in 5.4.2 which edge of the burner is to beused? And in 5.4.3 it’s not clear to me what “inside the outermost portion of the tree” means. And how is the verticalcenterline of the burner to be located vertically and is that to be measured above or below the bottom branches? Thiswill lead to a lack of reproducibility of the test method.
_______________________________________________________________________________________________289- Log #10
_______________________________________________________________________________________________Rick Thornberry, Rick Thornberry, FPE
289-26Delete proposed new Section 8.1.2.4 in its entirety.
What is the purpose of allowing fire sizes greater than 300 kW? The specified fire exposures in thistest method are intended to be used for regulatory purposes that are discussed in the Annex A Section A.4.1.7.1. I haveconcerns that the test equipment and instrumentation may not be capable of handling fires that may result fromcombustible fuel packages being exposed to larger heat fluxes and may not produce accurate results that arereproducible.
_______________________________________________________________________________________________289- Log #17
_______________________________________________________________________________________________Paul Fuss, US Govt.
289-29Add new text to read as follows:
An alternative method shall be permitted to calculate the calibration factor. The alternative method is describedas follows. Following completion of a calibration test, the average heat release rate shall be calculated for the burneroutput at each set point. The corresponding average heat release rate shall be calculated for each point based on theoxygen consumption measurements. A linear, least squares regression shall be performed on this data set, using theburner averages as the dependent (Y) variable. The slope of this line shall be used as the calibration factor.
Data sets were examined from twenty four experiments conducted under large scale calorimeters atthe ATF Fire Research Laboratory in which the calibration factor was calculated using the method described in Section8.2.3 as well as the proposed method outlined above. It was determined that the calibration factors calculated usingboth methods, were in agreement to within 1% in all cases. Data sets for the twenty-four experiments are supportingmaterial.One advantage to the proposed method is that each step in the calibration test carries equal weight. The method
described in Section 8.2.3 places heavier weight on the higher heat release rate steps, assuming each step is of equalduration.Note: Supporting material is available for review at NFPA Headquarters.
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Report on Comments – November 2012 NFPA 289_______________________________________________________________________________________________289- Log #11
_______________________________________________________________________________________________Rick Thornberry, Rick Thornberry, FPE
289-30Delete proposed new Section 8.2.8 in its entirety.
See my reason in my Public Comment for rejecting Proposal 289-26. Furthermore, what is consideredacceptable documentation of the fuel constants for the alternate fuels that may be used? This should be specified inthis test method in order that consistency will be achieved in obtaining accurate test results with alternate fuels that arereproducible.
_______________________________________________________________________________________________289- Log #12
_______________________________________________________________________________________________Rick Thornberry, Rick Thornberry, FPE
289-31Delete the proposed revisions to Section 9.1.3 and all its subsections. Also delete the proposed
revisions to Sections 9.1.6, 9.1.7, and 9.1.8.See my reason in my Public Comment for rejecting Proposal 289-32.
_______________________________________________________________________________________________289- Log #13
_______________________________________________________________________________________________Rick Thornberry, Rick Thornberry, FPE
289-32Delete the proposed revisions to Section 9.1.3 and all its subsections. Also delete the proposed
revisions to Sections 9.1.6, 9.1.7, and 9.1.8.As noted in my reason in my Public Comment for rejecting Proposal 289-32, allowing an alternate fuel
(ignition) source may lead to varying and inconsistent results and, thus, less reproducibility.
_______________________________________________________________________________________________289- Log #14
_______________________________________________________________________________________________Rick Thornberry, Rick Thornberry, FPE
289-35Delete the proposed new Section 9.1.3.3 in its entirety.
See my reason in my Public Comment for rejecting Proposal 289-32.
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Report on Comments – November 2012 NFPA 289_______________________________________________________________________________________________289- Log #15
_______________________________________________________________________________________________Paul Fuss, US Govt.
289-37Delete Section 10.3.1.
The release rate of carbon monoxide can be calculated using the same methodology that is used forcalculating the release rate of other combustion gases, described in Section 10.3.2.Data sets were examined from twenty experiments conducted under large scale calorimeters at the ATF Fire Research
Laboratory. The experiments were conducted using multiple fuels and configurations. The CO release rate wascalculated based on the methods outlined in Section 10.3.1 and 10.3.2. A comparison was performed of the CO releaserate as well as the total CO released. In the case of the CO release rate, the average difference between thecalculations was less than 1% in all cases. The results were similar in the case of total CO released. In 19 of 20 datasets the difference in the total mass of CO released was at or below 1.0%. The maximum difference was 1.1%.Data sets for the twenty experiments are supporting material.Note: Supporting material is available for review at NFPA Headquarters.
_______________________________________________________________________________________________289- Log #16
_______________________________________________________________________________________________Paul Fuss, US Govt.
289-37Revise text to read as follows:
For other combustion gases, t The release rate shall be a function of the summation of the concentration of thatgas at each scan in the exhaust (i.e., the products of the mole fraction of the combustion gas, and the overall mass flowrate for that scan, and the scan period), and its molecular weight as follows:
******Insert Equation Here******
The existing equation in Section 10.3.2 produces an average combustion gas release rate over theduration of the test. The proposed changes reduce the equation to an expression for the instantaneous combustion gasrelease rate. Subtracting the mole fraction measured in the incoming air adjusts for the presence of baseline values.
_______________________________________________________________________________________________289- Log #18
_______________________________________________________________________________________________Paul Fuss, US Govt.
289-38Delete this section.
The text will be added to Section 8.2.3.1.
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F2012_ROC_NFPA 289_Log #16_Eq #1_Rec
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Document TitleCurrent Edition
Current Cycle
Next Edition
Next Rev Cycle
Yrs Btwn Revs
Notes (Rev Cycle)
275 Evaluation of Thermal Barriers Used Over Foam Plastic2009 A2012 A2017 5
Last cycle A2008 (5) ‐ Cycle changed from A2011 to F2011 8/09. Cycle changed from 4 to 5 year and from F2014 in 10/11. Recv NITMAM 10/11‐ moved from F11 to A12.
259 Potential Heat of Building Materials 2008 F2012 2013 F2017 5 Last cycle A2007 (5) ‐Changed from A2012 to F2012
270 Smoke Obscuration Using a conical Radiant Source in a Singe Closed Chamber 2008 F2012 2013 F2017 5 Last cycle A2007 (5) ‐ Changed from A2012 to F2012
289 Room Fire Growth Contribution of Individual Fuel Packages 2009 F2012 2013 F2017 5 Last cycle A2008 (5) ‐ Changed from A2012 to F2012. Changed from 4 to 5 year rev cycle in 10/11.
261 Determining Resistance of Mock‐Up Upholstered Furniture material Assemblies to Ignition by Smoldering Cigarettes 2009 F2012 2013 F2017 5 Last cycle A2008 (5) ‐ Changed from A2013 to F2012
274 Method to Evaluate Fire Performance Characteristics of Pipe Insulation 2009 F2012 2013 F2017 5 Last cycle A2008 (5) ‐ Changed from A2013 to F2012
290 Passive Protection Materials for Use on LP‐Gas Containers 2009 F2012 2013 F2017 5 Last cycle A2008 (5) ‐ Changed from A2013 to F2012
705 Field Flame Test for Textiles and Films 2009 F2012 2013 F2017 5 Last cycle A2008 (5) ‐ Changed from A2013 to F2012
260 Tests and Classification System for Cigarette Ignition Resistance of Components of Upholstered Furniture 2009 F2012 2013 F2017 5 Last cycle A2008 (5) ‐ Changed from A2013 to F2012
276 Fire Test for Determining the Heat Release Rate of Combustible Building Assemblies or Above‐Deck Roofing Components 2011 F2014 2015 F2018 4
SC soliciting public input (Decision # 07‐3‐26) March 2007 ‐ (4)SC approved request to develop standard July 2007Entered F2009 cycle ‐ NITMAM 11/09
701 Flame Propagation of Textiles and Films 2010 F2014 2015 F2018 4 Last cycle F2009 (4). Changed from 5 to 4 year rev cycle in 10/11.
262 Flame Travel and Smoke of Wires and Cables for use in Air‐Handling Spaces 2011 F2014 2015 F2018 4 Last cycle A06 (4)Cycle changed from A2010 August 2008
265 Evaluating room fire Growth Contribution of Textile Coverings on full Height Panels and Walls (Textile Room‐Corner) 2011 F2014 2015 F2018 4
Last cycle A2006 (4)Cycle changed from A2010 August 2008
253 Critical Radiant Flux of floor covering Systems Using a Radiant Heat Energy Source 2011 F2014 2015 F2018 4 Last cycle A2005 (4) Cycle changed from A2010 August 2008. Changed from 5 to 4 year rev
cycle and F2015 in 10/11.
286 Evaluating contribution of Wall and Ceiling Interior Finish to Room Fire Growth 2011 F2014 2015 F2018 4 Last cycle A2005 (4) Cycle changed from A2010 August 2008. Changed from 5 to 4 year rev cycle and from F2015 in 10/11.
285 Evaluation of Flammability Characteristics of Exterior Non‐Load‐Bearing Wall Assemblies containing Combustible Components Using the Intermediate‐Scale,
Multistory Test Apparatus 2012 F2016 2017 F2021 5Last cycle F2011 (5)Cycle changed from A2010 August 2008 ‐ Request to withdraw from F2010 and submit ROC next available cycle 4/10. Cycle changed to F2011 7/10
252 Fire Tests of Door Assemblies 2012 F2016 2017 F2021 5 Last cycle A2007 ( 5) ‐ Cycle changed from A2011 to F2011 8/09. Changed from 4 to 5 year rev cycle 10/11
257 Window and Glass Block Assemblies 2012 F2016 2017 F2021 5 Last cycle A2006 (5) ‐ Cycle changed from A2011 to F2011 8/09
268 Determining Ignitability of Exterior Wall Assemblies using a Radiant heat Energy Source (Exterior Walls – Radiant Heat Test) 2012 F2016 2017 F2021 5
Last cycle A2006 (5) ‐ Cycle changed from A2011 to F2011 8/09
269 Toxic Potency Data for Modeling 2012 F2016 2017 F2021 5 Last cycle A2006. (5) ‐ Cycle changed from A2011 to F2011 8/09
287 Measurement of Flammability of Materials in Cleanrooms Using a Fire Propagation Apparatus (FPA) 2012 F2016 2017 F2021 5 Last cycle A06 (5) ‐ Cycle changed from A2011 to F2011 8/09
288 Floor Fire Door Assemblies Installed Horizontally in Fire Resistance‐Rated Floor Systems 2012 F2016 2017 F2021 5 Last cycle A06 (5) ‐ Cycle changed from A2011 to F2011 8/09. Changed from 4 to 5 year rev
cycle in 10/11.
251 W Fire Endurance of Building Construction and Materials W N/A N/A N/A N/A Withdrawn F2010
271 W Heat and Visible Smoke Release Rates for Materials and Products Using an Oxygen Consumption Calorimeter
W N/A N/A N/A N/A Withdrawn F2011
NFPA Fire Test Documents – Revision Cycles (4/11)
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255 W Surface Burning Characteristics of Building Materials (Tunnel Test) W N/A N/A N/A N/A Withdrawn F2009
256 W Roof Coverings W N/A N/A N/A N/A Withdrawn A2008
258 W Smoke Generation of Solid Materials W N/A N/A N/A N/A Withdrawn A2006
272 W Heat and Visible Smoke Release Rates for Upholstered Furniture Components orComposites and Mattresses Using an Oxygen Consumption Calorimeter
W N/A N/A N/A N/A Withdrawn A2007
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Linda J. Fuller, Manager Codes and Standards Administration
November 4, 2011 William E. Fitch Phyrefish Enterprises, Inc. 31 E. 5th Streets, Suite 3815 Miami, FL 33131-2528 Dear Mr. Fitch: I am transmitting to you herewith the following action of the Standards Council (October 17-18, 2011):
The Council considered the request of William Fitch, past Chair of the Fire Tests Technical Committee (TC) that NFPA consider the establishment of a new document as a screening fire test standard for textiles based on the small scale test method. After review of all the material before them, the Council denied the request for a new document. The Council noted that if the Technical Committee wishes to integrate this into NFPA 701, Standard Methods of Fire Tests for Flame Propagation of Textiles and Films, they may do it within the normal document revision process.
Very truly yours,
Linda Fuller, Manager Codes and Standards Administration c: R. Solomon, T. Golinveaux, D. Baio, C. Cronin TC Fire Tests (FIZ-AAA) 11-10-14
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