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CapnGusBloodbeardWhirlpool Forums Addict

My girlfriend and I have decided to take up fishing as ameans of chilling out during this lovely weather. We'veboth fished a little, but basically beginners. We need tobuy some new gear, start from scratch. Anybody know ifthere's any good specials on starter kits, otherwisewhere would you recommend we start? How much shouldwe be looking at spending on rod/reels?

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posted 2011-Jan-27, 2pm AEST

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ThrawnWhirlpool Forums Addict

If is a surf beach, you'll need some fairly specialized gear(big long beach rods). Fairly tough conditions if you're afishing beginner.

Fishing off a wharf is easy. The type of rod depends onwhat you're targeting. When you're going for bread andbutter fish like Whiting, Bream, Flathead, etc you cansettle for fairly light rods (don't get the $20 fishing kitsthough, they suck).

You can go for a basic rod for $25+ all the way to acarbon rod for $60 – $100 mark. You can also get theBig W/Kmart type kits for about $50 odd but the reels onthose tends to suck (won't last a season).

For reels I stick to Shimano as they're the only onesthat last for me. Stick to about 2500 size for bread &butter fishing. Something like a $50'ish Shimano Sedonawould do an excellent job.

Don't forget to get a decent fishing line as well (I tendto use Penn 10X). The cheap stuff tends to get snarlyand more prone to slippage/breakage.

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Fish from the wharf, not from the beach if you're justbeginning. Surf casting with heavy rigs can be trickyeven for the experienced. Stuffing it up can beexpensive too when you lose expensive rigs in the surf.

As already said, if you're going for your normal table fishthen a simple light set up can be put together prettycheap. Personally, I'd suggest going to your local tacklestores and asking the guys that work there. Chances arethey'll know the best rigs for the areas you want to fish.

It's obvious and I'm sure I don't need to say it, butschool yourself on the bag limits and legal sizes for thefish you're likely to catch. Just as important, learn howto kill your keepers in a quick way that wont spoil themeat and wont be so brutal on the fish. Also learn howto remove hooks and lures from fish you plan to return.Not much point returning a young bream to the water ifyou've ripped out his lower jaw. reference: whrl.pl/RcCZjH


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subasurf writes...

Fish from the wharf, not from the beach if you're justbeginning. Surf casting with heavy rigs can be trickyeven for the experienced.

Well, when I mentioned 'beach fishing', I was referringmainly to really calm waters rather than surf fishing, Iknow that would require some particular equipment forthat. I've done it before on a cheapish 6ft rod, notheavy expensive rigs, but then again I didn't catchanything either :P

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Just as important, learn how to kill your keepers in aquick way that wont spoil the meat and wont be sobrutal on the fish. Also learn how to remove hooks andlures

Good point.

Thrawn writes...

You can go for a basic rod for $25+ all the way to acarbon rod for $60 – $100 mark

Just wondering if I should start off cheap then learnwhat I hate about that rod and buy something else in 6months, or just spend $80 or so now on something kindof all-rounder(ish) but reasonably light which will bemuch better quality and would probably last a good fewyears.

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CapnGusBloodbeard writes...

Just wondering if I should start off cheap then learnwhat I hate about that rod and buy something else in 6months, or just spend $80 or so now on something kindof all-rounder(ish) but reasonably light which will bemuch better quality and would probably last a good fewyears.

Rods don't really matter too much. A $25 one is prettymuch just as good for catching fish as a $100 carbonone. In fact, the carbon ones are much more fragile (butthey're much lighter and thus more comfortable forlonger active sessions). The important bit is choosingthe right action, throw weight for the target fish. Youdon't want to get a snapper rod for chasing whiting.

Reels is a different matter as they have to survivesalt/sand conditions and this is where you want to avoidthe crap stuff. A smoother reel helps when pulling in thefish as well. reference: whrl.pl/RcCZyl


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Thrawn writes...

Rods don't really matter too much

I was being lazy – I meant rod/reel combo :P

The important bit is choosing the right action, throwweight for the target fish

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Thrawn writes...

Reels is a different matter as they have to survive salt/sand conditions andthis is where you want to avoid the crap stuff

Any particular brand to avoid?

Might head into a store tomorrow to ask for advice – the only stores I can seenearby, aside from smaller sports stores, are Ray's Outdoors and BCF – I figurethe latter would probably be the way to go

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In the same boat as you mate,

Just started fishing recently.

Spent a weekend down at Jarvis Bay, absolutely loved it.

Important lesson i learnt about purchasing equipment.Kmart is ALOT cheaper than "fishing stores" / bait and tackle stores etc.Might be worth buying your fishing rod from a specialist store if you want a bitof advice etc. But try buy all your tackle from Kmart you'll save a lot of $$$$.Kmart have these nice tackle boxes for $20 full of hooks, sinkers and otherassorted accessories i would suggest picking up one of these.

I googled a lot and came across some good forums to pickup info on rigging.Make sure you learn some good knots :)

The thing with beach / wharf fishing is that you need different rods.


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Beach fishing requires a larger rod so you can cast greater distances, youcan't use these larger rods of the wharf or you start knocking your fellow

fisherman off the wharf.

I wanted to do a mixture of both myself as well so i settled on a 10" rod. Itsstill waay to big for the wharf though so i need to pickup a smaller rod as well.

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Might head into a store tomorrow to ask for advice – the only stores I can seenearby, aside from smaller sports stores, are Ray's Outdoors and BCF – I figurethe latter would probably be the way to go

ray's outdoors definitely,

the staff are very knowledgeable (in their camperdown store)

and prices are VERY cheap.

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ray's outdoors definitely,

Find a real fishing shop in your area they have th etime to give you goodadvice and will answer any question you may ask on what sort of tackle tobuy (A reason I would not go to Rays) for the type of fish you intend goingafter.I went looking for a particular fishing bag andwent to a BFC store and the oneI wanted was $85.00 thought it was a bit steep so went to specialist store inHoppers Crossing and got the exact same bag for $75.00 it pays to shoparound:)

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Thrawn writes...

Stick to about 2500 size for bread & butter fishing. Something like a $50'ishShimano Sedona would do an excellent job.

+1. Id be looking to spend about 80-100 in total – 1/3 on rod (6ft ish), 2/3 onreel (2500 using 4kg line). This will be a great all rounder and will last decades(pro tip, dont get sand in your reel!)

Quick look on BCF;

rod – http://www.bcf.com.au/online-store/products/Jarvis-Walker-Meridian-Spin-6-6-3-6kg-2pc.aspx?pid=130821#Description (http://www.bcf.com.au/online-

store/products/Jarvis-Walker-Meridian-Spin-6-6-3-6kg-2pc.aspx?pid=130821#Description)

reel – http://www.bcf.com.au/online-store/products/Shimano-Slade-FB-2500FB.aspx?pid=124864#Description (http://www.bcf.com.au/online-

store/products/Shimano-Slade-FB-2500FB.aspx?pid=124864#Description)

....approx $85 total + fishing line and tackle (id def. budget for a book also, iehttp://www.fishvictoria.com/store/product.php?productid=44(http://www.fishvictoria.com/store/product.php?productid=44) )

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BTW many smaller fish like mullet/ small salmon will be found close to shore atthe beach. I had great success when starting out, so its still def. worthfishing small gear at the beach if you find a good spot and are heading out(for a day at the beach). You'll just get jealous when you see me hauling in ahuge salmon from my beach rod ;)

edit: geez i feel like going for a fish now – love beach fishing. Found this;http://www.fishing-mates.com/beachfishing/index.html (http://www.fishing-

mates.com/beachfishing/index.html)

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Jacksbac1 writes...

Find a real fishing shop in your area

I don't think there are any – bcf about half an hour away is the closest thereis :P

HDCM writes...

But try buy all your tackle from Kmart you'll save a lot of $$$$.

I know Ray's etc also have the 'starter tackle kits' for around $20-30, but I do

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remember Kmart generally being cheaper

Beach fishing requires a larger rod so you can cast greater distances,

IIRC, you also want a heavier rod as the lighter ones (particular with apowertip or some such) pick up every little ripple

I'd also be looking at some river/creek fishing (when out camping etc), so fornow a general purpose kit is definitely the way to go

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OCapnGusBloodbeard...

Jacksbac1 writes...

I don't think there are any – bcf about half an hour away is the closest thereis :P

As I don't know where you live I could not say where the nearest is but havea look in the yellow pages it may suprise you what is around.I tend to avoid Ray's or Kmart simply because if I need advice on what to buythe have not got a clue but your choice mate :)

IIRC, you also want a heavier rod as the lighter ones (particular with apowertip or some such) pick up every little ripple

If you want to check the action on a rod (rate of bend to comparitive length )hold the rod by the tip and let the weight of the rod drag it down dependanton the rate of bend will tell you what sort of action the rod has.

I'd also be looking at some river/creek fishing (when out camping etc), so fornow a general purpose kit is definitely the way to go

No argument there Capt but be careful what you buy as some of this stuffcomes with a whole range of things you might never use or want to use .Of course the other thing to do is to go and see what other anglers are usingin the area you intend to fish it can be quite enlightening sometimes and donot be afraid to ask these guys questions most will be more than happy tohelp you :)

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Trained MonkeyForum Regular

You should consider an Alvey rod/reel combo:

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store/products/Alvey-GP-Surf-Combo-7-500B-2-Piece.aspx?pid=303239#Description)

$65 for an Australian made reel with a 5 year (or is it a lifetime? – can'tremember right now) warranty.

I have one and am really happy with it. I like the simplicity of the design. It'snot as prone to line tangles as a spin outfit is in inexperienced (i.e. my) hands.It's also not as affected by sand as a spinning reel.

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You should consider an Alvey rod/reel combo:

For an inexperienced angler I would say no they are basically a long lining rodfor beach fishing and for more distance however will agree they are great asthey are easy to use:)

It's not as prone to line tangles as a spin outfit is in inexperienced (i.e. my)hands.

Blimey mate spinning or egg beaters are that easy to use wonder how youwould go with a baitcaster reel when they tangle they really tangle and arethe reel I use for preference along with the occasional expletive they workwell :)

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Was wondering how many people buy fishing licenses when they go outcasually and fish and if they've ever been caught out?

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Was wondering how many people buy fishing licenses when they go out

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Whirlpool Forums Addict casually and fish and if they've ever been caught out?

Judging by the amount of very small fish being taken off piers and jettys whichshould be put back but never are I would say not too many .I have been fishing here for over twenty years and have never run into afisheries officer in all that time.

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psicopWhirlpool Forums Addict

I myself as a beginner did the following things:

1. Purchased an overhead reel. A bit trickier to use, but man they make ahuge difference in pulling in your catch.

2. A casting net. Fishing with live bait makes also a big difference (not alwaysas casting with lures is a must with certain fish and locations).

3. Purchase a good book on fishing technique. You need to learn how to tieknots appropriate for every fishing condition and type of fish you aretargeting.

I never regreted either of these decisions.

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ive always been a fan of ugly stik rods myself, have a nice 8 foot light actionone here with a balanced reel and its great for small fish. Not a fan of cheapand nasty either, I figure buy good and you only buy once.

I personally have never been a fan of short rods, min of 7 foot here.

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Jacksbac1 writes...

I have been fishing here for over twenty years and have never run into afisheries officer in all that time.

Whereas I've seen them around a number of times...

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Whereas I've seen them around a number of times...

Depends where you fish really. In 10 years of fishing in QLD I have never seenone. Head to northern NSW and I see plenty...granted the latter was in aprotected zone for recreational fishing only with strict bag limits enforced.Didn't stop people putting out lobster pots in the rockpools though. Eventhough they were illegal in that area they never pulled them up, presumablybecause it was too dangerous to do so... No idea how the guy got out thereto put them out in the first place either :p

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TarnsieForum Regular

Are there any good starter kits on ebay or any good overseas fishing stores? Iwas thinking of grabbing some tackle while the US dollar is still weak.

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ƒԑloƒasoɟɐWhirlpool Forums Addict

Yay, a fishing tackle thread! Being a bit of a tackle junky I thought I'd sharemy 2 cents.

BCF are expensive imho. Try http://www.motackle.com.au/index.cfm?pr=home(http://www.motackle.com.au/index.cfm?pr=home) . They're in Coffs and have a hugerange.

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http://www.anglerswarehouse.com.au/index.asp(http://www.anglerswarehouse.com.au/index.asp) . Bought my last rod/reel here(Shimano Talica 16 ii speed, spooled with 500m of 50lbs braid. Shimano T-Curve Deep jig 400)http://www.campbellsprotackle.com/store/trolley.asp(http://www.campbellsprotackle.com/store/trolley.asp) .

The above listings are the best online tackle stores in Aust, bar none imho.

Most of the stuff on ebay is junk, especially the line – mono/braid.

Japanese make most of the best tackle, best monofilament/braid, and verygood hooks, although you do pay for them. "Owner" hooks from Japan areamongst the best you can get. Gamakatsu/Eagle Claw are also very good

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hooks. I use almost exclusively Owners inline circle hooks. Extensive tests inNZ have revealed that straight shanked circle hooks snelled, (a knot type)catch 30% more fish than other hooks, with a lower incidence of gut hookingas well. Commercial longliners use this setup.

I like overhead reels, stick to brands like Shimano, Avet, Fin Nor, Accurate,and Penn. The new trend is toward small light reels, that are still powerful andcan land big fish. Shimano Talica series, Fin Nor Marquesa, and Avet's SX/MXseries. www.Tackledirect.com (http://www.Tackledirect.com) in the US has goodprices on these reels. Don't touch the cheap reels on Ebay, they're rubbish.

A good rod costs $250-$350, a great rod is $500+ Buying your own blank thenhaving it custom fitted with guides etc is also popular amongst fishos.

In my experience cheap gear is a good idea until you lose a decent fish.

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ƒԑloƒasoɟɐ writes...

The above listings are the best online tackle stores in Aust, bar none imho.

Print out the ad and take it into your local tackle store. My local Tackle Worldstore will match motackle/campbells etc no questions asked with the bonus ofgood advice/local knowledge.

As for BCF the stores vary greatly. My local will match online prices as long asyou bring in the printout. As far as range goes, my local BCF has a huge rangeof quality gear on the shelves – Certates, Stella's, Saltiga's and Steez allsitting in the cabinets. Rods are a little lacking but I'm a Lamiglas fan so stockup on my trips back to Brisbane.

Check with your local first and ask about price matching – otherwise they willstart to disappear.

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Sprocketman writes...

Check with your local first and ask about price matching – otherwise they willstart to disappear.

I do my best to support my local tackle stores in Lismore and Ballina, butunfortunately they aren't always stocking the gear I want. Thank goodnessfor online shopping.

but I'm a Lamiglas fan

Nice rods.

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In my experience cheap gear is a good idea until you lose a decent fish.

Yep.We lost a couple of Spanish Mackerel due to bent hooks on our lures, while wetrolled for them up North.

Not all was lost, we landed some nice fat Tunas.

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I recommend buying your first lot of gear from K-Mart and keeping to the lowprice end of things. 2 piece rods can be easier to manage in the car.

Once you decide fishing is for you the fun begins with researching your nextupgrade. Forever. I think it's usually the reel before the rod but combos arevery popular.

Keep tackle purchases to a minimum until you know what you like and whatyou need.

It's a pastime that can eat your spare money making each fish you eat worthabout $100 but it's worth it. If you get a boat later you might catch more asmore spots become accessible BUT the price of each fish doubles.

Don't forget a licence (if needed) and have a plan of what to do with any fishyou keep. I recommend cleaning them at the ramp/beach over doing it athome – bloody scales go everywhere. Take an old esky which your tackle boxfits inside and have a couple of freezer bricks in it, too. Handy for a cold drinkand to keep your catch fresh. Consider folding chairs, too.

Learn how to get a fish hook out of your finger/ear/lip/foreskin before you go.http://www.kevinwakeman.com/fam/hookout.htm(http://www.kevinwakeman.com/fam/hookout.htm)

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Keep some facial wipes in the car to clean your hands before driving home.The sun is mean near water and you can get burnt in winter, wearing a hat.Goop up at home so you can wash the grease and the smell off your hands toprevent contaminating baits.

Let us know how you go!

Good luck.

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My girlfriend and I have decided to take up fishing as a means of chilling outduring this lovely weather. We've both fished a little, but basically beginners.We need to buy some new gear, start from scratch. Anybody know if there'sany good specials on starter kits, otherwise where would you recommend westart? How much should we be looking at spending on rod/reels?

Probably looking at fishing from either a wharf or beach

They are totally different conditions.

For the wharf I'd pick a lightish (not too light! the big one could jump on!) rod,that's longish and narrow – by that i mean long and flexible. Oh yeah and fillthe spool up on the reel, you'll be able to cast longer, and the choice of rodI've give is to assist with casting – avoid thick stiff rods – it's the "fling" thatassists.

For the beach/surf, you want a nice long rod, after you buy one of these rodsyou'll find your partner might comment that you're taller and more physicallyattractive among other things :)

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Just bought an entry level setup for my son from our local tackle store. Thereel – Shimano Sienna 2500FD. Paid $55 for this little spin reel, (although MO'sgot for $45) For the money it's a great little reel, very smooth and light, andmuch better than the big Jarvis Walker stuff at K-mart. Spooled it with Yo-Zuri 8 LBs fluro carbon/nylon blend, very light and almost invisible, incrediblelittle line. Rod – Shimano Eclipse 662 Spin, $25. Perfect match for the reel, at6ft 6", it casts ridiculously easy, which the lad mastered in minutes. All up $80for rod, reel, and line. I spent another $30 on a plano tackle box, a selectionof hooks, swivels, and sinkers, and he's totally good to go.

It was my son who pointed out it was much better value than a Video game,which cost similar.

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I recommend cleaning them at the ramp/beach over doing it at home – bloodyscales go everywhere.

Except if you live in the northern parts of Australia where this is illegal and avery dangerous practice.

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Except if you live in the northern parts of Australia where this is illegal and avery dangerous practice.

What are the laws, and what's the danger?

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What are the laws, and what's the danger?

No gutting/scaling/cleaning/disposal of frames at the waters edge.

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Shimano Sienna 2500FD.

nice reliable reel to start out on, and to keep on using for a long time. I haveabout 4 of them now ranging from 1000 size up to 4000. the oldest is about 2years old and has outlasted many more expensive reels. (I am quite hard onmy reels – from the kayak)The 1000 handles bream, flattys, squire quite easily.I use the 2500 as my go to snapper reel spooled with 6lb fireline.And the 4000 I have used alot off shore, including catching a 1m tuna.

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Well, I broke my own rule. Bought a $25 rod, similar to the one I got my son,Shimano Eclipse, except this was for a small overhead reel. Anyway, hookedmy first Bass, and bang the dam rod snapped in two. Still got the Bass, butthe rods cactus. Couldn't help but have a bit of a laugh.

Bass was caught in Clarrie Hall Dam, not in a river or Estuary, as the Bass season is closed

at the moment for those areas.

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BCF should match any price, sometimes they add postage charges if its inanother state, and will not match if the competitor doesn't have it in stock.

Buy decent stuff from the start, youll just keep replacing crap stuff.

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ight head into a store tomorrow to ask for advice – the only stores I can seenearby, aside from smaller sports stores, are Ray's Outdoors and BCF

BCF – for the die hard fishoRays – for the occasional fisho/beginner

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Drove down to Motackle today and bought two T-Curve Lucanus Jig rods, oneheavy overhead, and one light spin. Normal price for these Rods would be$300+ each, but they were having a sale and I got the pair for $400 – bargainfor high quality rods.

Waiting on a Daiwa Tierra 2500 spin reel that I've ordered from the USbecause of the strong dollar. Here they are around $200, but from the US tomy doorstep for $125, was irresistible.

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RickasForum Regular

Bringing up an old thread.

I am looking for some equipment as a beginner to learn fishing as arecreational hobby :)

I'm looking at fishing for bream (Patterson's Lake or Docklands in Melbourne).

Anyone have suggestions on what to get and where are good places I canhave a read about how to fish? I've been once or twice but that's basically it,so complete beginner.

I've found this but not sure if it's suitable: http://www.fishingtackleshop.com.au/products/Okuma-%252d-Avenger-55-Fishing-Reel-with--8-Foot-Ugly-Stick-Fishing-Rod-Outfit.html(http://www.fishingtackleshop.com.au/products/Okuma-%252d-Avenger-55-Fishing-Reel-with-

-8-Foot-Ugly-Stick-Fishing-Rod-Outfit.html)

Would one of these kits go well with the rod to get me started?http://www.raysoutdoors.com.au/online-store/products/Plano-Bream-Kit-2100.aspx?pid=164980#Description (http://www.raysoutdoors.com.au/online-

store/products/Plano-Bream-Kit-2100.aspx?pid=164980#Description)

Also what line and bait?

Help! :(

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john24kWhirlpool Enthusiast

Rickas writes...

I've found this but not sure if it's suitable:

I would go for a lighter rod. That rod is for 8-10kg line. You would probablywant something suitable for 4-6kg line. I don't know what is in the tackle box, but fishing for bream you just need abasic rig so I would just buy some sinkers, hooks and swivels in a suitable sizealong with a cheap knife. A tackle box is a hassle imo, I just use an oldbackpack with some of the plastic compartment boxes for tackle. Put an icepack in a plastic bag along with a drink and you have all you need to bring afish home fresh.

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I would go for a lighter rod. You would probably want something suitable for 4-6kg line.

agree. bit long for a beginner too.

but fishing for bream you just need a basic rig so I would just buy somesinkers, hooks and swivels in a suitable size along with a cheap knife.

yep.. and a bucket

A tackle box is a hassle imo, I just use an old backpack with some of theplastic compartment boxes for tackle.

I do this too.

The other thing I'd add, is learn how to tie some knots.

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RickasForum Regular

john24k writes...

suitable for 4-6kg line.

http://www.fishingtackleshop.com.au/products/Uglystik-Fishing-Rod-60A2-with-Okuma-Avenger-40-Fishing-Reel.html(http://www.fishingtackleshop.com.au/products/Uglystik-Fishing-Rod-60A2-with-Okuma-

Avenger-40-Fishing-Reel.html)

6 foot, 4-8kg

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with-Okuma-Avenger-40-Fishing-Reel.html)

7 foot 2, 4-7kg

Any benefits of the extra 1 foot? or either is fine. Would this also suffice if Iwanted to use it off a pier?

Any specific line that you guys can recommend for my requirements to go withthe rod?

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john24kWhirlpool Enthusiast

Rickas writes...

Any benefits of the extra 1 foot? or either is fine.

You should be able to cast a little further with the 7 foot but either is fine.

If off the pier I would go for the smaller rod.

I am not up on the best line for you to use, anything in the range for the rod,probably 4-6kg.

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hgmonaro writes...

The other thing I'd add, is learn how to tie some knots.

Best investment you could make:

http://www.afn.com.au/store/product_info.php?products_id=98(http://www.afn.com.au/store/product_info.php?products_id=98)

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burnsoWhirlpool Enthusiast

Rickas writes...

Any specific line that you guys can recommend for my requirements to go withthe rod?

I personally use a 6'6 rod. Either of those above will be fine for all purpose light fishing from jetty, river,



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boat, shallow beach for so many varieties of fish (and squid), just hold and'cast' with both in the shop and see which feels better in the hand.

Get some 4kg mono line to go with the reel, and google a few rigs: - running sinker (http://www.fishingmonthly.com.au/Articles/Display/364-Bait-Basics--Estuary-Running-Sinker-Rig(http://www.fishingmonthly.com.au/Articles/Display/364-Bait-Basics--Estuary-Running-Sinker-

Rig) )- paternoster (http://www.fishsa.com/paterrig.php(http://www.fishsa.com/paterrig.php) )Theres a few knots at the bottom of the paternoster link.

A good book such as 'fishing in victoria' (http://www.fishpond.com.au/Books/Fishing-Victoria-Explore-Australia/9781741171860(http://www.fishpond.com.au/Books/Fishing-Victoria-Explore-Australia/9781741171860) ) isIMO vital, has all the info you need and great specifics to victorian waters – Ihave this one

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bream in SA are pretty touchy, you wouldnt get away with 4-8kg line in manyplaces (YMMV). For bream, i tend to use a running sinker rig so they canmouth the bait and wander off with it a bit. It also allows the bait to move inteh curent more naturally.

good hooks are pretty helpful as bream have a hard mouth, i tend to usechemically sharpened hooks, tie them off myself.

i really gotta get back in to fishing!! :)

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Rickas writes...

Also what line and bait?

For bait I would recommend squid, fresh if possible. :)

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RickasForum Regular

Cheers for the suggestions everyone, that should be plenty to get me started:)

And finally, any places that sell fishing gear cheap? I don't mind shoppingonline for the best price, locally or overseas.

I will go to a local store in person to have a feel of the rod/reel before Ipurchase so it won't be a problem!

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Chelsea HeadHunterWhirlpool Forums Addict

Rickas writes...

I'm looking at fishing for bream (Patterson's Lake or Docklands in Melbourne).

Anaconda has a v good bream combo – berkeley dropshot rod + ABU reel inthe Australia day special – valid until 29 Jan – $79.95

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Here are two posts I made on another forum just over a year ago. Read bothif you want some fishing tips.

POST 1. (Beach fishing)

Depends on what you want to catch. For whiting, dart, bream and evenflathead use beach worms, pippies or yabbies (a bit hard to cast yabbies farand keep on the line when beach fishing but can do if you bait them right).Small fish like white bait will do for again bream and flathead.

Fish the incoming tide and look for gutters for all fish. The outgoing tide will begood for flathead at exits to gutters.

Whiting you can catch right up the edge of the sand, even bream so you don'tneed to cast way out the back to catch anything. Dart will be in the surf socast further and flathead will be at the entrances and exits of gutters or alongthe edges of gutters.

For whiting use a size 6 long shank with a trace about a metre long, light line.I use 2kg but will go to 3kg and as the ole saying goes you can catch big fishon little hooks but not little fish on big hooks. Depending on conditions startwith a 1 ball sinker, the lighter the better (usually at the top of the tide youcan use lighter sinkers). If the rip is working hard go up to 2 ball. After that a3 ball will more than likely be a bit too heavy, but if the current is heavy youmight have to give it a go but I'd say move onto something else to fish for,like dart or flathead.

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Whiting are gut butters so let them take the bait and swallow it. If you get abite don't jerk your rod, let it take a bit of line so it will swallow it, then raisethe tip slowly after a short time. When you get almost vertical just lean back,don't jerk, you'll hook it in the gut.

For bream you can use the same tackle or swap the hook for a suicide hookabout size 2/0 max. I use size 2 short shanks (not suicide) which are thesmaller scale hooks and gang them to 2 or three depending on what I'm usingfor bait. Bream attack from behind so if you are using small fish like whitebaitit's better to use a 2 ganged hook using size 2 hooks. This will ensure thehooks go all the way down the body of the bait. When fishing for bream, theirsmart, they'll test the bait, they'll pick it up but not swallow it straight out,they'll run a bit. Let the bream run with it by letting out line and after somedistance and the bream appears to be confident with the bait, do the samemotion as the whiting with the rod, lift the tip slowly till say to 75 degreesthen lean back the rest of the tip to vertical, don't jerk just pull mediumswiftly. You'll hook it in the mouth.

For flathead they're ambush fish and you can even use the same tackle as thewhiting. It saves a lot of mucking around changing tackle. But if you changethe hook use a size 2/0 or even 3/0 as they have large mouths (not suicidehook). A flathead will instantly jump on the bait and attempt to swallow it, butbe careful if you pull hard on the rod you can pull it and the bait straight outof it's mouth and lose the fish. You will know you have a flathead as it willgrab the bait and pull down heavy on the rod to go back to where it camefrom, lying in the sand. When the flathead strikes lean heavily on the rod butdon't whip it. But you don't need to raise the tip slowly. Just put one footbehind you and lean backwards from the waist while raising the rod at amoderate pace. That should be enough to hook it.

Dart will just about attack anything. I've thrown out shiny stainless steelhooks with no bait, reeled in quickly and caught dart – like a metal lure. You'llprobably catch more dart than anything. No special tactics they bite and runfor it usually hooking themselves. Same tackle setup as whiting will be fine. Noneed for anything else.

I also use 3kg line for both the bream and the flathead as I like to play withthem when I hook them. Never use heavy line over 4kg for bream they don'tlike it. But use 4kg (9lb) if you don't want to play around with it and just reelit in and are afraid the line may break. Same goes for flathead. You canventure to 5kg line for flathead but you should be right with 4kg. Forconvenience I suggest 4kg line for all the fish types I've told you about and itshould be a good medium fit for all. For whiting and bream I always use 2kg,3kg max.

For light surf conditions I use my estuary rod a a 10'6" whippy rod (what'scalled a 3126 or 3 wrap fibreglass 10'6" long = 126 inches) or for slightlyheavier surf I use a light surf rod of 12" (4144, 4 wrap 12 foot long = 144inches) with a whippy end. I use a 500 Alvey on the 10'6" and a 600 Alvey onthe 12" light surf.

I could go on but that should get you started.

Don't take a huge tackle box to the beach, leave that at the camp site orunit. Get a smaller snap lid box with a few compartments and put sinkers,hooks, swivels etc in it of different sizes for different conditions or differenttactics and fish.

That's a quick rundown. There is always more.

POST 2. (Some beach and estuary fishing)

If you do fish for tailor you'll only fish at dusk and into dark or before dawn,dawn and shortly thereafter. At night I find break walls are generally easier asthey go up and down the beach so you'll always have them at a breakwallturning around or schooling for the run and you can easily cast out to the surfbreaks further off the beach from the breakwall.

Tailor use their keen eyesight as their advantage so they like frothy water i.e.surf wash. Use ganged 3/0 or 4/0 and pillies. Use a heavy trace, l like 15kgline as a trace for chopper tailor and 30kg for greenbacks or a wire trace ifyou want but a line trace is better. For the line on the reel I use 15kg and nomore. Many use higher but I find I don't need to. They do have sharp teeth.Sinker size is less dependent for these as they take the bait regardless, so 4ball, even 5 ball, is no problem. Cast out towards the back breakers and reel inslow to moderate. As a matter of fact you should do this for all fish. A movingbait is better than a bait sitting there. Slow for whiting and bream.



Of course live, followed by fresh bait is best for all fish.

As for whiting I find squid the least of my choices. If you can't get worms,either beach or blood, try for pippies on the beach and collect them (IIRC 50is the maximum), they're better than squid. You can fish for whiting day ornight, bigger ones generally at morning, dusk or night time, but you can catch

them during the middle of the day. They are a schooling fish so when you findthem stick around for a while. If you don't get a bite in say 30 minutes, moveto another gutter on the beach. I find whiting more on an incoming tide or atthe top of a tide. At low tide I find they may school in holes which could befurther out from the beach but it depends if there is a deep hole in closer theymay have schooled up there.

Bream prefer less movement in the water so top or bottom is best. I find topthe best. But this lasts for a short time and thus I fish the incoming tide fromabout half way up till just after the top and head off after that. If you usepillies for bream bait, don't use the whole pilly, I use fillets of them and shapeit like a V. I prefer not to use pillies for bream as a fish bait. I prefer smallerwhole fish if not worms, pippies or yabbies. At dawn, dusk or night the biggersea bream come in closer and that's when you catch large bream. But duringthe day you can catch generally decent legal sized bream. I've done ithundreds of times. If you are going to use prawns for bream use fresh greenprawns. I'm not a fan of prawns at all really, generally I find live worms,yabbies and pippies best with the odd live herring if you go and hook themusing a bait jig.

You can't use nets in NSW only traps or the live bait jigs you see with lots oflittle hooks on them. You don't need to bait these jigs as they have littlepieces of white plastic to attract the herring but I still always add bits ofrolled up bread on them anyway. Tie a sinker to the end of the line and jig upand down near jetty pylons or at wharfs at boat harbours.

Flathead like tides moving so they are either ambushing fish coming into or outof gutters on beaches most or hiding along ledges or on banks close to gutterswhen fish exit or enter. I do prefer runout tides and the bottom of the tidesand the beginning of the making tide for flathead in holes and drop offs i.e. Ifish the last 3 hours of an outgoing tide into the bottom and into the 3 hoursof the making tide – about 6 hours with the bottom of the tide at the middleof the fishing time. I've done my best fishing at these times but you can catchthem at nearly any time. You should always be able to catch a flathead atsome popint. They're probably the easiest to catch if you target themspecifically but you will always have the off chance of catching them as a by-catch when fishing for whiting or bream. Again live fish bait is always best forflathead so if you have live herrings use them. If not as I said worms, pippies,whitebait, hardy heads or pillies.

What I generally do is look when a tide I prefer to fish coincides with dawnand dusk/night as my first choice, if not possible then an incoming tide halfway up through to the top of the tide during the day will do me and I'll alwayscatch fish that are worth keeping.

In creeks or rivers I fish for flathead at the bottom of the tide in holes, dropoffs or behind clumps of weed with a mr. twister leadhead lure (lime greenwith gold flecks). I do this with rivers I can walk over during the low tide, asthe flathead will lie here and I can get to them whereas when the tides overhalf way I can't. I go out about 1 or 2 hours before the bottom of the tide tillabout 1 or 2 hours after the making tide.

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Can anyone recommend a good spinning wheel & rod combo for beach fishingin asia under $100? I'm currently looking on

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Can anyone recommend a good spinning wheel & rod combo for beach fishingin asia under $100? I'm currently looking on

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im off with the kids for some squid fishing on Yorke Peninsula later this week(if its not too windy).

doing some reading and it seems my green coloured squid jigs are no longerfavourites :(

it seems brighter coloured (orange or pink) jigs are preferred, but even morerecently, that brown or black with contrasting undersides (white or marble)are preferred. Anyone got experience with those? Also read that using a jagwith a fish bait tends to attract larger squid than a prawn based jig?

debating spooling up with braid rather than mono – any suggestions for whichis better if its a bit breezy on the day?

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Bumpity. Well you guys were no help lol.

Went to walleroo jetty. Put up with the rain and winds gusting to 30km –calmer as the night went on thankfully.

No squid, fish rarer than hens teeth, but a fun trip, came home with 2 fish n 2blue swimmer crabs. Will bbq them today.

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