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Transcript of York University’s Reputation: Challenges and Opportunities
York University’s Reputation: Challenges and Opportunities
A Presentation to the Planning Forum on the Draft White Paper
March 9, 2010
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Introduction
This presentation features the results of two external research initiatives undertaken by Strategic Counsel as input for the White Paper:
– Surveys of key student groups; and
– A series of in-depth interviews.
On line surveys were undertaken among:
– Current York University students;
– Students accepted to York University but who declined; and
– GTA high school and university students who are not considering/did not consider York, but intend to/did apply to a TO based PS institution.
A total of 4,951 questionnaires were completed by York students, 1,468 by declining students, and 500 by students not intending/not applying to York.
Ten, one-on-one interviews with key York and external influencers.
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Objectives
For the student surveys primary objectives were:
– Overall perceptions of York;
– Perceived strengths/attributes of York;
– Primary reasons students chose York; and
– Primary barriers to choosing York.
Additional objectives of the one-on-one interviews were:
– Overall assessment of York’s reputation; and
– Assessment of options for York in moving forward.
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Major Findings
York’s reputation in terms of both academic performance and the quality of the student experience is in need of significant improvement.
York is generally perceived to be well below the U of T and McMaster and on a par with Laurier and Guelph, in terms of the quality of the education offered. Among those who did not apply or do not plan to apply, York’s reputation in this area is particularly low.
In terms of reasons for choosing a university, York students are least concerned about reputation as a factor, while among those who declined a York offer or did not apply reputation is considerably more important in making a choice.
York students appear to share many of the feelings about York of other students, they are less likely than students at other institutions to say they would recommend the university and to say they would make the same choice again.
A number of factors appear to act as barriers for students in either accepting a York offer or for considering applying and they are somewhat different for the two groups.
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Major Findings
Essentially, those who did not apply or would not consider applying are far more likely to say that program availability issues are major factor. However, for both groups the strike, location and York’s reputation are also key factors.
In n order to enhance the student experience four actions were identified by all three student groups surveyed:
– Expand experiential learning opportunities;
– Reduce class sizes,
– Enhance campus safety; and
– Provide more academic advising
One-on-one interviewees generally believe that York has a significant reputation problem that they believe has a basis in reality and arises from:
– The extensive use of part-time faculty;
– Recent strike; and
– Lowering of admission standards.
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Major Findings
This has contributed, they believe, to what is seen as a diminished student experience and is a major issue to address;
While the northern part of the GTA is a natural catchement area for York, interviewees believe that this could no longer be relied upon as a reliable source due to changes in the area and that the reputation issue was exacerbating this situation.
Finally, interviewees believe that York must continue to grow, but must diversity its program areas and especially into the “hard sciences”, in order to reach students not now thinking of York and to establish York as a complete university.
Quantitative Findings
Assessments of Ontario Universities
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A York education is seen as good, but not exceptional
% Excellent/Good York Current
StudentsStudents who declined York
Students who did not/will not apply to
York
Total* Total* Total*
n= 4951 1468 500
% % %
University of Toronto 90 91 92
McMaster University 84 86 90
York University 66 58 34
University of Guelph 58 56 58
Wilfrid Laurier University 56 55 55
Ontario College of Art and Design 56 52 50
Ryerson University 50 52 52
University of Ontario Institute of Technology 36 35 47
Q. 14. Irrespective of your status as a York student, how would you rate the following colleges and universities in terms of the overall quality of (undergraduate-level/graduate-level or professional-level) education offered by each? (Current Students)
Q. 13. How would you rate the following colleges and universities in terms of the overall quality of (undergraduate/graduate-level or professional-level) education offered by each?(Declining Students)
Q. 16. To the best of your knowledge, how would you rate the following universities in terms of the overall quality of undergraduate education offered by each? (Did not/Will not apply)Base: Total base
* Totals have been repercentaged to exclude the no opinion/don’t know responses
Ratings of specific universities in terms of education offered (undergraduates rate undergraduate education and graduate-level students rate graduate-level education
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Among current students, York is seen as well below U. of T. and McMaster in the quality of education.
Q. 14. Irrespective of your status as a York student, how would you rate the following colleges and universities in terms of the overall quality of (undergraduate-level/graduate-level or professional-level) education offered by each? (Current Students)
Base: Total base (* Totals have been repercentaged to exclude the no opinion/don’t know responses)
School Ratings – York Current Students
Total Excellent/
Good*%
Total DK%
University of Toronto 90 17
McMaster University 84 30
York University 66 1
University of Guelph 58 39
Ontario College of Art and Design 56 53
Wilfrid Laurier University 56 46
Ryerson University 50 26
University of Ontario Institute of Technology 36 60
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Among declining students, York is seen to be on a par with Guelph, Laurier and Ryerson.
Q. 13. How would you rate the following colleges and universities in terms of the overall quality of (undergraduate/graduate-level or professional-level) education offered by each? (Declining Students)
Base: Total base (* Totals have been repercentaged to exclude the no opinion/don’t know responses)
School Ratings - Students who declined York
Total Excellent/
Good* %
Total DK%
University of Toronto 91 13
McMaster University 86 30
York University 58 15
University of Guelph 56 39
Wilfrid Laurier University 55 43
Ontario College of Art and Design 52 54
Ryerson University 52 27
University of Ontario Institute of Technology 35 57
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Those who did not apply have the lowest regard for York.
Q. 16. To the best of your knowledge, how would you rate the following universities in terms of the overall quality of undergraduate education offered by each? (Did not/Will not apply)
Base: Total base (* Totals have been repercentaged to exclude the no opinion/don’t know responses)
School Ratings - Students who did not/will not apply to York
Total Excellent/
Good* %
Total DK%
University of Toronto 92 3
McMaster University 90 8
University of Guelph 58 20
Wilfrid Laurier University 58 22
Ryerson University 52 8
Ontario College of Art and Design 50 34
University of Ontario Institute of Technology 47 35
York University 34 7
Assessing York
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York students are notably less likely than others to report that they would still choose their university if they could choose again.
Q. 10. If you could choose again, would you still choose to attend York? (Current Students)Q. 11. If you could choose again, would you still choose to attend the college or university you are currently attending? (Declining Students)Q. 14. If you could choose again, would you still choose to attend the college or university you are currently attending? (Did not/Will not apply)Base: Total base
York Current Students
Students who declined York
Students who did not/will not apply to
York
Total Total Total
n= 4951 1327 110
% % %
Yes 51 71 76
No 19 8 7
Not sure 30 21 16
Percentage who would choose to attend their current university if they could choose again
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Just over half of York’s students would recommend the University for undergraduate studies, notably less than those attending other schools.
Q. 13. How likely would you be to recommend York University to friends or family… (Current Students)Q. 12. How likely would you be to recommend the college or university that you are currently attending to friends or family? (Declining Students)Q. 15. How likely would you be to recommend (UNIVERSITY SELECTED IN FIRST COLUMN AT Q.2) to friends or family… (Did not/Will not apply)Base: Total base
% For undergraduate studies
York Current Students
Students who declined York
Students who did not/will not apply to
York
Total Total Total
n= 4951 1327 110
% % %
NET Likely 54 76 82
Very likely 24 54 55
Somewhat likely 30 21 26
Neither likely nor unlikely 14 7 8
Somewhat unlikely 12 5 5
Very unlikely 15 7 5
NET Unlikely 27 12 10
Don’t know/No opinion 5 6 -
Likelihood of recommending current university to friends or family
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Less than half of York’s students report that the University provides a positive student experience.
Q. 12. How would you rate York University in terms of your overall experience as a student? (Current Students)Base: Total base
York Current Students
Total Under-graduate Degree Graduate/ Profess-ional Degree Full-time Student Part-time Student
n= 4951 3799 1152 4230 721
% % % % %
NET Excellent/Good 49 49 51 49 51
Excellent 12 12 11 11 13
Good 38 37 39 38 38
Average 31 32 28 32 28
Poor 12 12 13 12 13
Very poor 7 6 8 7 7
NET Poor 19 18 21 19 20
Don’t know/No opinion 1 1 1 1 1
Ratings of York in terms of overall student experience (among York students)
Reasons for not Choosing York
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Location, the strike and programs are top-of-mind reasons for not applying to York.
Q. 17 What are the main reasons that you decided not to attend York? Please list up to three reasons, in order of importance. (Declining Students)Q. 20. What are the main reasons that you (UNIVERSITY STUDENTS: did not consider, GRADE 12 STUDENTS: have not considered) applying to York University? Please list up to three
reasons, in order of importance. (Did not/Will not apply)Base: Total baseNote: Responses of 1% or less not shown.
Students who declined York Students who did not/will not apply to York
Total Total
n= 1468 500
% %
NET Location 42 35 Distance/very far/long commute 23 17 Bad location / neighbourhood / near Jane and Finch 16 15 Too close to home 3 4 Looking for school outside of Toronto 3 1NET Staff/Labour 31 28 Recent strike / too many strikes 24 26 Admin problems/Poor treatment of TA’s 6 1 Labour dispute 3 1NET Access 28 10 Fees/Expensive tuition 8 3 Not accepted into first choice program/High academic standards 8 6 Lack of financial support 7 - Received late acceptance 4 - Not enough scholarships 3 1NET Programs/Courses 27 58 My preferred program/course not offered 22 43 Issues with programs (not specialized, bad reputation) 2 7 No co-op program 2 3 No reputable science program / medical school / engineering 1 10
Reasons for declining/not apply to York.
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York’s reputation is also a top-of-mind reason for not applying to York.
Students who declined York Students who did not/will not apply to York
Total Total
n= 1468 500
% %
NET Personal preference 24 15
Prefer other options 17 4
Not interested/Didn’t know enough about it 3 10
Not as good as University of Toronto 2 1
NET Reputation 22 27
Poor overall reputation 18 22
Not as good a reputation as University of Toronto 2 1
NET Environment 22 17
Issues with campus (boring, ugly) 5 5
Safety/security concerns 4 3
University is too large 4 2
Class size too large 3 2
Issues with environment (bad, unfriendly, depressing) 3 3
Don’t like their residence 2 1
NET Word of mouth 7 10
Friends/parents/others do not recommend York 4 8
Heard bad things/someone had bad experience 3 1
NET Academic issues 6 11
Not challenging academically / bad teaching 3 7
Admission standards too lenient 2 2Q. 17 What are the main reasons that you decided not to attend York? Please list up to three reasons, in order of importance. (Declining Students)Q. 20. What are the main reasons that you (UNIVERSITY STUDENTS: did not consider, GRADE 12 STUDENTS: have not considered) applying to York University? Please list up to three
reasons, in order of importance. (Did not/Will not apply)Base: Total baseNote: Responses of 1% or less not shown.
Reasons for declining/not apply to York.
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Reducing labour strikes and improving perceptions of York academically are two critical factors to increasing student interest.
Top 2 boxes of 7 point importance scale
Students who declined York Students who did not/will not apply to York
Total Total
n= 1468 500
% %
You wanted to attend another college or university more 59 74
The labour strike 54 64
Geographic location 42 32
Academic reputation 40 53
Availability of courses that you wanted 37 53
Transportation/access to campus 34 29
Likelihood of getting a good job following program completion 31 37
The look and feel of the campus 26 28
Availability of student financial assistance 22 19
University culture 21 22
Availability of experiential education opportunities such as co-op programs or internships
19 28
Size of the university 18 16
The desire to move out of your hometown to study 18 25
Q. 18 How important were the following as reasons why you did not attend York University? (Declining Students)Q. 22. How important were the following as reasons why you did not attend York University / for not applying to York University? (Did not/Will not apply)Base: Total base
Importance of the following as reasons for declining/not applying to York University
Enhancing York’s Student Experience
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Expanding experiential learning, improving campus safety, more academic advising, and improving student support services will increase interest from current and potential students.
% Very/Somewhat important
York Current Students
Students who declined York
Students who did not/will not apply to
York
Total Total Total
n= 4951 1468 500
% % %
Expand the study space in the library 77 27 43
Invest in campus safety 76 40 49
Provide more academic advising 75 35 51
Improve student support services 73 33 48
Expand experiential education opportunities such as co-op programs and internships
69 42 57
Improve food service on campus 63 23 34
Reduce class sizes 58 42 51
Improve the York website and technology services 58 22 32
Increase flexibility by offering more courses during evenings and/or on weekends
56 26 40
Create more space for socializing on campus 53 27 37
Increase e-learning opportunities and online courses 48 19 24
Introduce block scheduling in first year so that the same students are registered in two or more courses
38 22 33
Expand the role of the Colleges 37 17 24
Q. 17 How important would it be to undertake the following initiatives to improve the quality of the student experience at York? (Current Students)Q. If the following changes had been implemented when you applied/were implemented before you applied to University, to what extent, if at all, would they have affected/affect your
decision to attend/apply to York University? (Declining Students: Q.20, Did not/Will not apple: Q24)Base: Total base
Importance of York doing the following to improve the quality of the student experience
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Increasing experiential education opportunities is of significant interest to all
York Current Students
Students who declined York
Students who did not/will not apply to
York
Total Total Total
n= 4951 1468 500
% % %
Expand experiential education opportunities such as co-op programs and internships
25 28 41
Expand library study space 25 7 9
Invest in campus safety 23 21 21
Reduce class sizes 19 31 26
Provide more academic advising 19 15 21
Improve student support services 15 15 18
Increase flexibility by offering more evenings / weekend courses 14 10 13
Improve food service on campus 13 5 5
Increase e-learning opportunities 11 7 4
Create more space for socializing 8 9 8
Improve the York website and technology services 6 7 5
Introduce block scheduling in first year 5 8 8
Expand the role of the Colleges 4 6 6
Improve access (financial and other) 4 5 1
Academic improvement 3 2 1
Q. If York could only undertake two of these initiatives, which two do you feel are the most important? (Current Students: Q19, Declining Students: Q22, Did not/Will not apply: Q.26)Base: Total baseNote: Responses of less than 1% not shown.
Most important things that York can do to improve the quality of the student experience
One-on-One Findings
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Main findings
General sense York has a significant reputation problem arising from:
– Extensive use of part time staff;
– Recent strike; and
– Lowering of admission standards.
These issues have all contributed to what is seen as a diminished student experience and this is seen as a major issue to address;
While there is agreement regarding the importance of the northern GTA for York there is also a sense that it cannot automatically be relied upon as a source of students, and as a result of:
– Growing aspirations of the regions students;
– York’s more limited program offerings;
– Increased competition from Ryerson; and
– York’s current reputation.
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Main Findings
There is broad recognition that York must continue to grow, but also must diversify in terms of its programs;
However, there is no real consensus in terms of the type of program areas to develop, aside from a preference for the “hard sciences”;
Many respondents articulated, in various ways, the need for York to develop a clear vision of how it wants to evolve, and importantly, why and to build a consensus around this vision;
Finally, in moving forward most advised to build on York’s existing strengths.