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Where will DESIRE get us?
Dr David Toke, Senior Lecturer, University of Birmingham. Note: some slides taken from
presentations made by Anders Andersen and Paul Woods to DESIRE seminar on
November 9th 2005
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Aalborg University PlanEnergi Universität Kassel Birmingham University Tallinn Technical University
Energi- og Miljødata Institut für Solare Energieversorgungstechnik EMD DeutschlandLABEiN Technological Centre in Bilbao Warzaw Technical University
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Wind power: what do we do when there is no wind?
• Switch on a power station that would otherwise have been retired!
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Having no wind is not a great problem
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What can we do when there’s too much wind?
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The necessity for CHP plants offering balancing of fluctuating Renewable Electricity Productions
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3 last days in October in Western part of Denmark
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Options for balancing
• Turn off some windmills
• Turn off a lot of conventional power stations
• Build bigger electricity inter-connectors
• Use CHP to balance wind power
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CHP uses less gas than CCGT systems!
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How balancing works
• When there’s too much wind……shut down engines and use heat in accumulators
• When there’s not enough wind turn on engines and……pump heat into accumulators
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Picture of CHP unit with two heat accumulators (thermal stores) on left
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Thermal storage - schematic
Boiler CHP
Thermal Store
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Thermal Storage Principles
• Allows CHP to operate in day-time and store surplus heat to meet night-time heat demand
• Allows increase in CHP capacity by smoothing demand and maximising heat from CHP
• Enables a single large CHP to meet a lower summer demand without needing to dump heat
• CHP can operate at full output (for shorter periods) rather than modulating which maximises efficiency
• Hot water storage – temperature difference 30ºC to 40ºC• Chilled water storage – temperature difference 8ºC to 10ºC• Ice storage – latent heat• Eutectic materials
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Thermal Store - Delivery
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Thermal Storage - after
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Charles Dickens Estate Portsmouth• 530 dwellings
• School and Arts and Leisure Centre
• 526kWe gas-engine CHP
• 70m3 thermal store
• Some blocks had electric heating
• New controls - no heat meters
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How does balancing help in the short term?
1) CHP plant can co-operate to bid for the short term
operating reserves market, utilising thermal stores
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2) CHP operators can use thermal stores to get peak
power prices
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How can balancing help in the short term?
3) It can reduce BETTA penalties if CHP and
windfarms co-produce
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Danish Gas CHP reduces CO2 emissions a lot better than CCGTs
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CO2 emissions: CCGTs compared to Danish and UK statistics on gas engines
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How to get a lot more good CHP
• Give CHP incentives according to efficiency of CHP system
• Give market confidence about prices for electricity
• Make good quality CHP mandatory for next 5 or ten years
• Make good quality CHP mandatory for all new buildings (where gas is available)
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Country Tariff in p/KWh
Average capacity factor (%)
Annual Return per installed MW (£)
Germany 5.5(declining)
18 87,000
United Kingdom
5.0 (15 yr contract)
6.0 (10 yr contract)
8.0(annual contract)
28 123,000
147,000
172,000
Spain 4.5 28 110,000
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http://www.plan.aau.dk/~ana/
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United Kingdom2005
5.0 (15 yr contract)
6.0 (10 yr contract)
8.0(annual contract)
28 123,000
147,000
172,000
Country Tariff in p/KWh
Average capacity factor (%)
Annual Return per installed MW (£)
United Kingdom2005
5.0 (15 yr contract)
6.0 (10 yr contract)
8.0(annual contract)
28 123,000
147,000
172,000United Kingdom2011
4.0 (15 yr contract)
4.5 (10 yr contract)
5.3(annual contract)
28 98,000
110,000
130,000
In 2011 the Conservatives might be in office, and they may reduce prices for onshore wind……..