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1. Please sign in/update current email address1. Please sign in/update current email address

2. Can you pass the test? College Quiz in packet2. Can you pass the test? College Quiz in packet

The Junior Journey (for The Junior Journey (for parents)parents)

December 11, 2008December 11, 2008Department of Student ServicesDepartment of Student Services

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Top 10 Signs the College Top 10 Signs the College Rat Race is Out of Rat Race is Out of

ControlControl 10. Son ignores the State Department travel 10. Son ignores the State Department travel

warning to seek eye-catching community-warning to seek eye-catching community-service experience among the Kurdish service experience among the Kurdish separatists near the Iraq-Turkey border.separatists near the Iraq-Turkey border.

9. Daughter complains that a classmate who 9. Daughter complains that a classmate who uses wheelchair has better college essay topic.uses wheelchair has better college essay topic.

8. Son is distressed to learn that the SAT does 8. Son is distressed to learn that the SAT does not offer extra-credit problems.not offer extra-credit problems.

7. Mom has a sudden falling out with best friend 7. Mom has a sudden falling out with best friend after friend's daughter is accepted early at Yale.after friend's daughter is accepted early at Yale.

6. Dad proclaims that the family will only be 6. Dad proclaims that the family will only be allowed to communicate using SAT vocabulary allowed to communicate using SAT vocabulary words.words.

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Top 10 Signs the College Top 10 Signs the College Rat Race is Out of Rat Race is Out of

ControlControl 5. Private investigator verifies that 5. Private investigator verifies that student's great-great-grandfather was half student's great-great-grandfather was half Cherokee.Cherokee.

4. Thanksgiving dinner conversation is 4. Thanksgiving dinner conversation is devoted to critiquing essay drafts.devoted to critiquing essay drafts.

3 .Daughter memorizes Tiers I and II of the 3 .Daughter memorizes Tiers I and II of the U.S. News & World Report National U.S. News & World Report National University rankings.University rankings.

2. Mom searches the Web for car window 2. Mom searches the Web for car window decals with a space that says "also decals with a space that says "also accepted at..."accepted at..."

1. Message on phone answering machine 1. Message on phone answering machine notes that daughter is National Merit notes that daughter is National Merit Semifinalist.Semifinalist.

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TJ MythsTJ Myths

““EveryoneEveryone gets in to an Ivy.” gets in to an Ivy.”In 2008, only In 2008, only 19% of all TJ seniors got IN to an Ivy 19% of all TJ seniors got IN to an Ivy

(80/429)(80/429)-13% -13% chose to matriculate intochose to matriculate into an Ivy (54/429) an Ivy (54/429)-29% of students who applied got in to an Ivy League -29% of students who applied got in to an Ivy League

school (80/272)school (80/272)-48%-48% (204) went to a Virginia public school (101 UVA; (204) went to a Virginia public school (101 UVA;

53 W&M; 37 VT)53 W&M; 37 VT) ““EveryoneEveryone gets a “2400” on the SAT.” gets a “2400” on the SAT.”

- Average score for the Class of 2008 = 2183- Average score for the Class of 2008 = 2183 ““EveryoneEveryone applies to 15 schools” applies to 15 schools”

-70% of all seniors in 2008 applied to 8 schools or fewer-70% of all seniors in 2008 applied to 8 schools or fewer-We recommend 5-7 applications (reach, range, safety)-We recommend 5-7 applications (reach, range, safety)

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Timeline – Junior YearTimeline – Junior Year NowNow

Begin thinking – plan, read, plan, read some more...Begin thinking – plan, read, plan, read some more... January – AprilJanuary – April

Junior Meetings (parent optional) – email me for appt.Junior Meetings (parent optional) – email me for appt. Campus Visits!!!!!!Campus Visits!!!!!!

April – JuneApril – June SAT and AP ExamsSAT and AP Exams Letters of RecommendationLetters of Recommendation College PacketsCollege Packets

Summer PlansSummer Plans Do Do somethingsomething……

Next FallNext Fall

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What needs to be done?What needs to be done? Begin Thinking Begin Thinking

What do I want out of What do I want out of college?college?

What am I interested in What am I interested in studying?studying?

Begin Researching Begin Researching College & Career CenterCollege & Career Center College FairsCollege Fairs

Visiting Schools (see Visiting Schools (see additional handout)additional handout)

TestingTesting (SATs, ACTs, APs)(SATs, ACTs, APs)

Develop a working Develop a working list of schoolslist of schools

College PacketsCollege Packets Form positive Form positive

relationships with relationships with teachersteachers

View various View various applicationsapplications

Schedule a Junior Schedule a Junior Counselor meeting Counselor meeting (Jan-Apr)(Jan-Apr)

Sign up for Family Sign up for Family ConnectionsConnections

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Begin Thinking...Begin Thinking...

Begin with a list of 15-20 schoolsBegin with a list of 15-20 schools Factors to consider:Factors to consider:

Programs of StudyPrograms of Study CompetitivenessCompetitiveness Student Life/CultureStudent Life/Culture LocationLocation SizeSize Public/PrivatePublic/Private Finances – have this conversation!!!Finances – have this conversation!!!

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Begin Researching...Begin Researching... College and Career Center - College and Career Center - http://http://

academics.tjhsst.edu/careercenteracademics.tjhsst.edu/careercenter// College Search Web Sites (See handout)College Search Web Sites (See handout) College representatives in CCCCollege representatives in CCC College visits!!!!College visits!!!! InternetInternet BooksBooks

Ruggs Guide Ruggs Guide Fiske Guide to Colleges Fiske Guide to Colleges Rock Hard AppsRock Hard Apps

Family ConnectionsFamily Connections (link on Blackboard) (link on Blackboard)

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Family Connections Family Connections Acceptance HistoryAcceptance History

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Comparing yourself to Comparing yourself to colleges on your listcolleges on your list

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Family Connections Family Connections Scattergram for MIT 2008Scattergram for MIT 2008

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Family ConnectionsFamily ConnectionsScattergram for UVA 2008Scattergram for UVA 2008

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Family Connections Family Connections OverlapsOverlaps

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The TJHSST CCC WebsiteThe TJHSST CCC Website

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Terms to knowTerms to know

Early DecisionEarly DecisionThis year, 55/454 students This year, 55/454 students applied Early Decisionapplied Early Decision

Early ActionEarly ActionEarly Action/Single ChoiceEarly Action/Single ChoiceRolling AdmissionsRolling Admissions

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Numbers GameNumbers Game

Grade Point Average (GPA)Grade Point Average (GPA) Scholastic Aptitude Tests (SATs)Scholastic Aptitude Tests (SATs)

SATs – Reasoning TestSATs – Reasoning Test SAT IIs – Subject TestsSAT IIs – Subject Tests

At least 2; 1 in Math II; some schools want 3At least 2; 1 in Math II; some schools want 3 http://www.collegeboard.comhttp://www.collegeboard.com

ACT Test – reading, writing, math, ACT Test – reading, writing, math, sciencescience

Advanced Placement (AP) ClassesAdvanced Placement (AP) Classes

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Schools Are Looking Schools Are Looking For...For...

Academically Academically challenging challenging curriculumcurriculum

Excellent gradesExcellent grades Upward trendUpward trend Intellectual curiosityIntellectual curiosity CreativityCreativity CommitmentCommitment

Personal maturity and Personal maturity and integrityintegrity

Ability and willingness Ability and willingness to contributeto contribute

POTENTIALPOTENTIAL LeadershipLeadership

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College Ratings of the Importance of College Ratings of the Importance of Various Factors Various Factors

in the Admission Decision: Fall 2007in the Admission Decision: Fall 2007ConsideraConsidera

blebleModeratModerat

eeLimitedLimited NoneNone

Grades in college prepGrades in college prep 79.9%79.9% 14.4%14.4% 2.9%2.9% 2.7%2.7%

Strength of curriculumStrength of curriculum 63.863.8 23.923.9 8.08.0 4.34.3

Admission test scoresAdmission test scores 58.558.5 30.930.9 8.08.0 2.72.7

Grades in all coursesGrades in all courses 51.651.6 40.140.1 6.16.1 2.12.1

Essay or writing sampleEssay or writing sample 25.825.8 37.937.9 19.919.9 16.416.4

Demonstrated interestDemonstrated interest 22.022.0 30.330.3 23.923.9 23.923.9

Counselor Counselor recommendationrecommendation

21.121.1 40.440.4 28.128.1 10.410.4

Teacher recommendationTeacher recommendation 20.820.8 40.040.0 28.628.6 10.510.5

InterviewInterview 10.810.8 23.723.7 35.835.8 29.829.8

Subject test scores (AP, Subject test scores (AP, IB)IB)

6.86.8 32.232.2 34.934.9 26.226.2

Extracurricular activitiesExtracurricular activities 6.56.5 45.745.7 32.832.8 15.115.1

SAT II scoresSAT II scores 6.26.2 13.813.8 28.228.2 51.851.8

State graduation exam State graduation exam scoresscores

4.44.4 13.713.7 28.728.7 53.353.3

WorkWork 1.91.9 24.224.2 46.846.8 27.227.2

Source: NACAC Admission Trends Survey, 2008

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Summer/Senior YearSummer/Senior Year Narrow “the list” to 5-7 schoolsNarrow “the list” to 5-7 schools Download applicationsDownload applications Request transcriptsRequest transcripts Apply online (familiarize yourself with Apply online (familiarize yourself with

the Common Application)the Common Application) EssaysEssays Secure teacher recommendationsSecure teacher recommendations Senior Check-in with CounselorSenior Check-in with Counselor Fill out FAFSA online in January, and Fill out FAFSA online in January, and

PROFILE if your college requires itPROFILE if your college requires it

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Making the college Making the college match is a process...match is a process...

It takes timeIt takes time It may not be smoothIt may not be smooth Your vision may not match theirs, or vice Your vision may not match theirs, or vice

versaversa Your student WILL be okay in the endYour student WILL be okay in the end Your input is very important – BUT the final Your input is very important – BUT the final

decision needs to be theirs – their dreams, decision needs to be theirs – their dreams, goals, future, loans!goals, future, loans!

I am here to help!!! I am here to help!!! Parent Conferences by appointmentParent Conferences by appointment

Students get open door policyStudents get open door policy

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PerspectivePerspective

Selection process vs. admission processSelection process vs. admission process The “X” FactorThe “X” Factor Beyond the walls of TJBeyond the walls of TJ

National applicant poolNational applicant pool The journey is far more important than The journey is far more important than

the destination.the destination.

Questions?Questions?

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Thank You!Thank You!

Please contact your child’s counselor with Please contact your child’s counselor with questions or concerns!questions or concerns!