Welcome!The New

AA-T & AS-T Degrees:

What Do Counselors Need To Know?

November 27, 2012A webinar for CCC Counselors

Presented by the CCC Chancellor’s Office, C-ID, and the ASCCC, working with Counselors

This webinar will be archived

www.cccconfer.org www.sb1440.org

(Go to: Counseling)

Our presenters today

Bernie Day, Articulation Officer/CounselorNaomi Grisham, Transfer Center Director

Jane Patton, C-IDBob Quinn, CCC Chancellor’s Office

Karen Simpson-Alisca, CSU Chancellor’s Office

Welcome!Your role in informing students is vital!Agenda:

Requirements of AA-T/AS-THow to work with studentsWalk through “tool box”Q&A

Expected OutcomesAt the end of workshop, you will

be able to:Describe the basic tenets of SB

1440Explain what C-ID is and how it

relates to associate degrees for transfer

Compare and contrast the differences between completing an associate degree for transfer pathway and a traditional articulated transfer pathway.

More Outcomes Identify and successfully

utilize related resourcesServe as a resource for

students

The new law says. . . Students with this degree are guaranteed admission to CSU

system as a junior in a “similar” major

All CCCs offer the Associate Degree for Transfer

“The California State University shall grant a student priority admission to his or her local California State University campus and to a program or major that is similar to his or her community college major or area of emphasis“o “similar” major determined by CSU faculty-

www.sb1440.orgo CSU cannot require students to repeat courses similar to

those completed at CCC

AA-T and AS-T students admitted to CSU in a “similar” 120-unit BA/BS program are guaranteed to complete BA/BS in 60 semester units

What’s required? New degrees are called Associate in Arts or Science in <major>

for Transfer: AA-T or AS-T

According to Ed Code §66745-49 degrees must include:o 60 sem./90 qtr. CSU-transferable units o Completion of IGETC or CSU GE-Breadtho Minimum 18 sem./27 qtr. units in majoro No additional local requirements allowed

Memo outlining California College Board of Governors goal: http://www.c-id.net/docs/2012_5-22_SB1440_Memo_js.pdf

Transfer Model Curricula (TMCs)

1. Faculty discipline groups identify common lower division major preparation (TMC)

2. Discipline groups are intersegmental (CSU and CCC)• some UC involvement, too

3. Draft TMCs are vetted statewide (www.c-id.net) & faculty determined.

4. CCCs develop TMC- aligned degrees known as AA-T/AS-Ts and submit them to the CCCCO for approval.

Course Identification Numbering System

Administered by the Academic Senate for CCC Similar to CAN but with more detailed descriptors Provides the infrastructure for TMCs & course

substitution Faculty discipline groups define content for courses (C-ID course

descriptors) Drafts of Course descriptors (C-ID) vetted statewide When a college has a C-ID approved course, then they

have agreed to accept all others with the same C-ID number. www.c-id.net

22 TMCs AvailableAdministration of Justice KinesiologyArt History MathematicsBusiness Administration MusicCommunication Studies PsychologyEarly Childhood Education PhysicsElementary Education Political ScienceEnglish SociologyGeology Studio ArtsGeography Theater ArtsHistory Computer ScienceJournalism Anthropology

And MORE Coming Soon!

Which degrees are approved AA-T/AS-T degrees at your

college? e.g. Communication Studies AA-T Early Childhood Education AS-

T English AA-T History AA-T Kinesiology Mathematics AS-T Political Science AA-T Psychology AA-T Sociology AA-T Studio Arts AA-T

Currently in the curriculum approval process at your

college?

Business AS-TMusic AA-TPhysics AS-T

What about Reciprocity & Substitution?

New ASCCC statement on Reciprocity, Course

Substitution and Credit by Exam—in light of AA-T and AS-T degrees (doc available at sb1440.org)

Counselors can use C-ID for comparability. External Sources of Credit (AP, CLEP, IB)

How do I advise

students?

Who are the AA-T/AS-T students?

Anyone applying to a CSU in identified similar majorso Provides priority admission consideration

Want to earn associates degree and prepare to transfer

Applying to a CSU which has no articulation with your CCC

Applying to impacted CSU (campus or major) UC applicants have guaranteed comprehensive

review May also be strong preparation for independent

colleges

ASSISTHelps you find community college courses that are

transferable to a UC or CSU

Lists all transfer majors offered at UC and CSU

Lists courses that are articulated to specific majors

Lists courses that satisfy GE requirements

ASSIST.ORG

CSU Major Preparation optionsPathway 1 – Major Prep articulation

via ASSIST

A transfer pathway used for admission to one of the 23 California State Universities

An option that allows students to complete an Associate’s degree while satisfying lower division general education and major requirements fortransfer at the same time.

Prescribed pattern of courses for specific majors (AA-T and AS-T)

CSU Major Preparation options

Pathway 2 - Associate Degrees for Transfer

60 + 60

= YOUR BACHELOR’S DEGREE

AA-T/AS-T Major

Preparation

AI, Golden 4, Electives

*CSUGE or

IGETC

CSU Major coursework

(similar)

CSU General

Education(upper

division)

60 units 60 units

The CSU Admission Process

California State UniversityOffice of the Chancellor

CSU Minimum Admission Requirements

Obtainment of a minimum grade point average of 2.0

60 semester units or 90 quarter units that are eligible for transfer to the California State University.

General Education requirements are met by either the Intersegmental General Education Transfer Curriculum (IGETC-CSU) or the CSU GE-Breadth Requirements and includes: 30 units of General Education completed with a grade of “C” or

better Golden Four (A3‐‐critical thinking, A1‐‐communication, A2‐‐English

composition, and B4‐‐quantitative reasoning w/a minimum grade of “C”)

18 semester units or 27 quarter units in a major or area of emphasis

No need for GE certification when the degree conferral is posted on the “official” transcript.

What’s the Guarantee?Part 1: A student who completes an AA-T or AS-T at a California

Community College is guaranteed admission to the California State University

NOTE: Students are not guaranteed admission to a particular campus or program

Part 2: AA-T/AS-T graduates admitted to a CSU program that has been

deemed similar to the Associate’s Degree for Transfer will be able to complete the Baccalaureate Degree in that similar option in the discipline within 60 semester or 90 quarter units

What’s the Guarantee – Part 1?

To qualify for Part 1 of the guarantee students must: Be conferred an AA-T or AS-T degree Apply for admission to California State University campuses

for an open term by the published deadline Submit all requested transcripts and documents by published

deadlines, Meet CSU admission eligibility requirements for the program

to which they have applied, And comply with any other prescribed admission

requirements. 

What’s the Guarantee – Part 2?

To qualify for Part 2 of the guarantee students must:

successfully complete each required course without repeating them.

Maintains continuous enrollment in the same academic major (approved leave of absence OK)

Additional notes:1. Students who chose change their major or complete a minor are not

guaranteed completion within 60 units.2. After enrollment at a CSU campus begins, the guarantee is not

transferable to another CSU campus. 

“Similar” Each CSU determines if the TMC is similar “Similar” means a that if a transfer student arrives

with the TMC coursework and lower-division GE, the CSU campus is able to deliver the baccalaureate degree in 60 units. (60 + 60)

Some options/ concentrations within majors may not be considered similar.

Upper-division GE must be part of the 60 units. Any missing lower-division major preparation or American Institutions requirements may be included in the CSU 60 units

How are AA-T/AS-T degrees considered in admission?

CSU Campus Admissions Impaction Status

Similar Degree Similar Degree

Local Applicant Non-Local Applicant No Impaction (CSUDH, CSUH, CSUMB) Priority Admission

Min. 2.0 GPA(Ed. Code 66745)

Campus Impacted Priority AdmissionMin. 2.0 GPA

(Ed. Code 66745)

Supplementary GPA Requirement

Additional .20 GPA Point

Program Impacted Supplementary GPA Requirement (Any CA Student)  Additional .10  GPA Point   (20 seats or more)Campus & Program Impacted(SJSU, SDSU, CSUF, CSULB, SLO) Supplementary GPA Requirement (Any CA Student)  Additional .10  GPA Point   (20 seats or more)

CSU Mentor: SB1440 Section on 2013-14 Application

CSU Mentor: SB1440 Section on 2013-14 Application

CSU Mentor: SB1440 Section on 2013-14 Application

CSU Mentor: SB1440 Section on 2013-14 Application

CSU Mentor: SB1440 Section on 2013-14 Application

CSU Mentor: SB1440 Section on 2013-14 Application

Application Verification ProcessStudent self-reports intent on CSU Mentor

CSUCO filters the applicant list on Mentor & Applicant data disaggregated by CCC and CSU

Email is sent to student with instructions on the verification process

A list of the students sent to CCCCO & CCC CSSO’sStudents are responsible to obtain the degree

verification form and petition for graduation evaluation Provide a copy of their evaluation/report to each CSU

campus to which they had appliedStudents are responsible to provide final official

transcript with AA-T/AS-T degree conferral to CSU by date specified by CSU campus.

Application Verification Process

Admissions EvaluationAll applicants still must follow campus instructions

regarding documents and other requirementsAdmissions may be rescinded AAT/AST not earned or

if student has not met the CSU minimum admission requirements

Campus admission process varies by impaction or non-impaction status

Redirection of applicationConditional admit pending impaction

criteria

Toolbox …websites http://www.sb1440.org http://ccctransfer.org/ http://www.calstate.edu/transfer/degrees/ www.ADegreeWithAGuarantee.com http://www.c-id.net http://www.Asccc.org discussion board This webinar will be archived on sb1440.org

Toolbox: informationGo to: www.SB1440.org

What Counselors need to know PPT (for you to show at department meeting, etc. )

Info for Orientation PPT (for Orientations) Transfer PPT (for student workshops) Glossary of terms---C-ID & 1440 ASCCC Statement: Reciprocity, Substitution,

Credit by exam Bookmark to duplicate Questions (from counselors) & answers

Toolbox: Marketing Materials Posters, Tabletops, Bookmarks Sent To:

Transfer Centers at 112 Colleges and to 70 Centers 23 California State Universities All California high schools

Public Website: www.ADegreeWithAGuarantee.com

Radio and On-Line Ads Running

Toolbox: Who can I consult?

AA-T/AS-T Curriculum: Articulation OfficerC-ID questions: Articulation Officer or info@c-

id.netVerification list: See your CSSOVerification sent to CSU: contact the appropriate

CSU admission officeApplicants with degrees not listed on CSU

mentor: students must notify each CSU admission office

Advising questions: sb1440questions@cccco.edu

Next steps… Train your faculty & staff (e.g. department meetings) using

the materials on sb1440.org

Offer workshops for students (we provided the ppt for you)

Update catalog, transfer brochure and GE guide, transfer web page, major sheets, etc.

Provide input as local AA-T/AS-Ts are developed

Check resources often: http://www.sb1440.org http://ccctransfer.org/ http://www.calstate.edu/transfer/degrees/ www.ADegreeWithAGuarantee.com.

Questions?

Please type your questions in the “Chat” box on your screen and we will answer them orally for all to hear

Thank you for participating and sharing this info on

your campus!