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    THE PRESIDENT S P GE

    By E E . "Buck" Hilbert , PresidentE Antique/Classic Division

    KEEP TH T BIRD STOCK

    Each of us who owns an Antique or Classic aircraft is privileged to be the curator ofour own personal museum piece. It's a responsibility whether we realize i t or not. The morerare the bird the larger the responsibility and the greater the effort should be to keep i toriginal.

    Pride of ownership, pride in having something no one else has and greater recognitionis possible, by just keeping i t factory new and cleaner than the one next to it.Butch ing up an airframe to mak e i t aerobatic or speedy, hanging a bigger engine, or

    in some way taking i t out of the original configuration makes it less desirable, and also im-portant less sa leabl e

    Some mod s are n ecessary to keep the birds flying. Brakes and a tailwheel are an abso -lute necessity in todays world of aviation. So is a radio. And with engine reliability alwaysa problem, a more modern engine is sometimes the only answer. But to customize to gainattention will never do the trick . f its an aerobatic bird you want go get a special. If itsspee d you're after then step up to one built for it.

    But keep those Antique and Classic machines stock ask our judging committee.

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    VOLUME 1 - NUMBER 5APRIL 1973

    TABLE OF CONTENTSNational Ryan Club . . Bill Hodg es . . . . . . . 4The Arkansas Command-A ire

    R obert L k . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 7Now , About Those Replica Plans . . .

    J ack Cox . . . . . . . . . . 10Around The Antique-Classic World . . . . . . . . .. 12

    Calendar of Events . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .. . 14

    HOW TO JOIN THE ANTIQUECLASSIC DIVISION

    Membership in the EAA An tique -Classic Divi

    sion is open to all EAA m embers who have a special i n terest in t h e older aircraft that are a proudpa r t of our aviation he r itage. Members hip in theAntiq u e-Classic Divisio n is 10.00 per year whichentitles ' one to 12 iss u es of The Vintage Airplanepublishe d m onth ly at EAA H ea dqu arters. Eachm em ber will also receive a special Antiq u e-C lassicm embership ca r d plu s one a dd itiona l ca r d forone's spo use or other designated family m embe r .

    Membership in EAA is 15.00 per year whichinc lu des 12 iss u es of SP OR T A V IA T ION. All m embersh ip correspondence shoul d be ad dressed toEAA, Box 229, Ha les Corners, Wisconsi n 53130 .

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    Bill Hodges continues to chair the ST-3KR Divisionand maintains an information center on the ST-3KR(PT-21, NR-l , PT-22), ST-4 and FR-l series Ryans .Hodges is currently restoring his fourth PT-22 and hasnumber five waiting in the barn .

    Enthusiasm for pre-World War II Ryan aircraft remains at an all-time high throughout the country, Canada

    and Australia.The classic lines of the STA are readily apparent and

    are carried over into the ST-3KRIPT-22 series. Largegatherings of Ryans may be seen, especially at fly- insin California such as at Watsonville, May 18-20; Merced, June 1-3; and the 3rd Annual Gathering of Ryansat Paso Robles, May 4-6. Large numbers are alsoplanning to gather at the EAA Convention July 29August 4 where the annual National Ryan Club meetingwill be held and the 2nd Annual Mid-West Ryan OwnersGathering to be held at Rockton, Illinois on August 18and 19.

    Of the 1,250 PT-22 series aircraft manufactured ,160 remain in the Civil Aircraft Register.

    Interested persons wanting more information maycontact Mrs. Friedman at 609 Hill Street in HighlandPark Illinois 60035 or Mr. Hodges at 3351 So . 99thCourt in Milwaukee , Wisconsin 53227.

    (Myron Rupprecht Photo)

    BELOW - Myron Rupprecht s 1942 Ryan PT-22 N

    1923) in Mexican Air Force colors at Paso Robles in1972 . EAA Photo)The proboscis of an American Classic .

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    Bill Hodges Collection)

    To most fly-in goers of today, this is whatRyan is all about, the ubiquitous PT-22 .

    (Di ck Stouffer PhotO )( an Aeronautical Co . Official Phot o) PT-22.

    A PT-20 in its element.

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    Photo by Jack Cox Walt Mindermann of Hollis , N Y restored this 5C-3. It has been modern-ized with the addition of a 220-hp Continental and World War II era wheels.

    THE RK NS S COMMANO-AIREBy Robert G ock E 56824 )

    1186 N . PecanReedly, California 93654

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    flew itself. Thus, the Command-Aire was shown to beextremely stable and the word stabili ty was usedmany times in the firm 's advertising .

    As the supply of OX-5 engines became scarce, thefactory experimented with other engines, mostly theradial type. The next development by the companywas the Command-Aire 3C3-A, which received ATCNo. 118 in March of 1929. Only 20 were built and oneWarner powered model , serial number W-79, was placedon Edo floats .

    During the year 1929, distribution and sales weretaken over by the Curtiss Flying Service, located in 26of the 48 states. Most of the later Command-Aire modelswere sent to the company's Houston, Texas location.

    The next step in C o m m a n d A i r ~evolution came inthe closing days of March, 1929 when the model 3C3-Breceived ATC No. 120. The 3C3-B had a seven cylinder

    Siemens Halske engine of 105-113 horsepower. The engine was of German manufacture, distributed in theU.S .A by K. G. Frank as the Yankee Siemens . Performance of aircraft and engine was good, but engine

    , thirty-five 5C3's were manufactured by the Little Rock. plant. All 5C3's were powered by a 185 horsepower, six

    cylinder Challenger radial engine. Performance was verygood and the engine was quite reliable. Cruise speedwas 103 miles-per-hour while full control of the aircraftcould be maintained down to 40 miles-per-hour. So goodwas the control and stability of the airplane, the CurtissFlying Service promptly ordered sixteen 5C3's fitted asdusters by the factory and licensed in the restricted category (NR). Some 200,000 acres of cotton were dusted inthe southern states in 1929. Price a t the factory was$6325, later reduced to $5950 in 1930.

    The 5C3 was entered in many air races in 1929, butalways placed midway in the field each time; it was notbuilt for speed. Major John Carroll Cone, who was stillin charge of sales, flew a 5C3 to seventh place in the1929 National Air Tour.

    During the same month, July 1929, one 5C3 aircraft was modified and a 150-hp Hispano-Suiza (Risso)engine installed. The airplane was given ATC No. 185and was probably the best looking of the CommandAire models, closely resembling the Travel Air 2000.However, only one 5C3-A was produced. This aircraftwas flown from San Diego, California to Los Angeles,Qalifornia, by fearless test pilot Ike Vermilya while

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    WILLARD SCHMITI;4 27 ROCKY RIVER DR. NO. 2 2

    i l L l N I ; ; L A N D ~O IO 4413a 1973 COMMANDAIRE REGISTRATION LISTModel3C3

    N 136EA Ser . No . 532 John S Thurmond4302 S Camino VerdeTucson . Am. 85714

    N 583E Ser No . 607 LOUIS AndersonRI. 2

    Mans field . Mo . 65704N 7885 Ser . No 530 Sileiby B. HagbergRI. 1. Box 4Greenfield. Iowa 51343

    Mode13C3AN 970E Ser No . W- l0B Dolph Overton

    P . a Box 93Sanlee. S . C 29142

    Mode13C38N 610E Ser . No W69 Joseph Erale

    1 Willow SI.9rentwood . N. Y. 11717

    Model5C-3N 925E Ser . No . W-88 Walter A. Mlndermann

    196 30 Como AveHollis. N. Y 11423

    N 996E Ser. No . W-135 Joh n R McDa n lelBox 757Ft. Pierce . Fla . 33450

    N 997E Ser . No . W-136 Robert G . Lock1186 N. PecanReedley . Calif. 93654

    N 998E Ser . No . W-137 John R. McDanielBox 757

    Ft. Pierce . Fla . 33450N 939E Ser . No . W-93 Joseph E rale4 Wil low SI.Brentwood . N. Y. 11717

    N 946E Ser . No . W-95 John S . Thurmond43 02 S . Camino VerdeTucson . Am. 85714

    ( P ho to C o urte sy of Lloyd TOll )Major John Carroll Cone , Sales Manager for Command-Aire flew this 5C3 to 7th place in the1929 National Air Tour. The engine is a six cylinder Curtiss Challenger with bayonet stacks.

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    Photo by Dick Stouffer)

    Carl Swanson s fantasticall y accurate re pl ica Nieu port .

    . NO W , ABOUT THOS REPLICA PLANSBy Jack Cox

    EAA Headquarters receives hundreds of requestsf i f i f

    Fokker Dr I Walter Redfern , Box G Tekoa,h f d

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    Sopwith Pup Gordon E. Codding (address above)- Drawings.Smithsonian Institution, Washington, D . C ., - 72 drawings 18 x 24$162 .00 .Air Force Museum , Dayton , Ohio

    Drawings .Hawker-Siddeley, Kingston-upon-Thames - Drawings.Public Records of Hawker-Siddeley(above has drawings for 100 hp conversion .

    Sopwith Triplane Chris J. Warrilow (address above )Clayton and Shuttleworth drawings$72.00.

    SP Ds 7/13 Gordon E. Codding (address above)- Drawings.Air Force Museum , Dayton, Ohio Drawings.

    Thomas-Morse Gordon E. Codding (address above)S C - Drawings.

    We also recommend that World War I replica enthusiasts contact two groups which publish newsletterson their favorite activity, building and flying aircraftof The Great War. They are:

    World War I Aeroplanes by Leonard E. Opdycke,46 Pleasant Ridge Road, Poughkeepsie, New York12603.

    Fokker Verein . Contact Dr . Stanley L. Morel, 812East Park Row, Arlington , Texas 76010 (Phone 2778361). The Fokker Verein is not limited to Fokker enthusiasts - all World War I types are included.

    Your editor would like to hear of sources of any otherplans and/or organizations devoted especially to theabove type of activity. We will be happy to publish theinformation in The Vintage Airplane.

    (Ted Koston Photo)BELOW - E O. Swearingen's much admired okker O-VIII and a friend from another generation .

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    AROUND THE ANTIQUE/CLASSIC WORLDPhoto by Ted Koston)

    PROBLEMS!

    Photo by ick Stouffer)

    PROBLEMS!

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    OH , THOSE PROBLEMS!Memorial Day weekend is enough to drive the An

    tique and Classic buff from drink That same long weekend three of the largest and most active type c lubs inthe antique-classic world are holding their national flyins. The Staggerwing, Swift, and Waco Clubs all meetthat weekend, their fly-in sites tantalizingly close for

    those of us who would like to attend all three .

    STAGGERWINGTullahoma, Tennessee 's big World War II training

    field-now-municipal-airport is where Staggerwing ClubPresident "Dub" Yarbrough will greet his fellow Beechbuffs. All sorts of "down home" activities are on tap forthe May 25-28 spree. Items: A Tennessee "Hoedown"on Saturday night (wi th "Tennessee spirits"); panel discussions and actual demonstrations of Staggerwing repair , maintenance, inspection, and rebuilding; feat .uredspeaker is Louise Thaden, winner of the 1936 BendIxin a Staggerwing , of course. Camping facilities areavailable - inc luding shower and toilet and electricalhook-up. In addition to the stars of the show, the Staggerwings, there will be glider flying and even hot air balloons . Time is short, but for last minute fly-in information contact: W . C. Yarbrough , Lannom Mfg . Co. , Inc.,Tullahoma, Tennessee 37388.

    SWIFTYour first problem in going to the Swift Fly-In will

    be finding where to go Gilbertsville , Kentucky is thenearest town, the landmark to look for is the KentuckyLake Dam, and the airport will be the one with scoresof Swifts buzzing all over the place - its name on yourchart is Kentucky Dam State Park Airport. When youget your chart down to find all this , look at the extremewestern end of Kentucky , find Paducah, then trace theTennessee River east to the Kentucky Lake Dam . By thenyou should have the airport symbol located. This is abeautiful resort area and a fantastic site for any kind ofoutdoor event Last year Charlie Nelson's Swift nuts

    RARE WACO FOR SALEThere is one Waco YPF-6 left . This is the one that

    looks a lot like the fabulous "D" owned by Dick Jackson .It has the sliding greenhouse, etc., but a smaller JacobsR ~ 7 5 5 9rather than the 450-hp Prat t and Whitney . Thisaircraft was well into the process of restoration when itsowner passed away . The center section and cowl arecomplete, the fuselage primed, and jigs for the wing ribshave been built. The engine is zero time since overhaul.Wing spars have been purchased. The aircraft is a 1935Waco UPF-6 , Serial Number 4375, NC 15700. Th e e n-gine serial number is JO-21395 .

    The aircraft is located just across the street from theBoulder, Colorado airport. Contact: Lucille Bennett ,5117 Independence Road, Boulder , Colorado 803013 03 /442 3123 . This would be a highly desirable antique

    and a special prize among Waco buffs .

    PORTERFIELD CLUBf you are an admirer of The Skinny ir d the lIttle

    Porterfields of the late 30s and early 40s, you will wantto join the Porterfield Club and get their newsletter .For information write Marc Herman , 2306 HyperionAvenue, Los Angeles , California 90027.

    A recent Porterfield restoration is N27281 , a 1940LP-65, rebuilt by William R. Knox of Marietta , Georgia.Painted red and cream, the bird is reported to be abeauty. This will not be hard to believe for those of ouwho remember Bill's Fairchild 24 of a few years back.He is now hard at work on a 1929 Fleet I

    STEARMAN RESTORERSASSOCIATION

    For many years the Stearman Restorers j.ssociation served as the Stearman Type Club for both the EAAand AAA and was an active force in the sport flyingworld. But for the past few years it has been inactive , duemainly to the great time and travel requirements of Bill

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    months old is already considered a collector's itemThank you all for your confidence.

    On another matter we simply were unprepared forthe landslide of mail the Antique-Classic Division andThe Vintage irplane have generated. Many of you askedquestions, made special requests, etc. in your membership letters . Please be patient we will answer you as

    soon as possible .

    EAA IN ACTIONWithin the past few years a number of antique air

    craft produced in foreign countries have been importedto the U. S. These include such favorites as the BuckerJungmann and Jungmeister Canadian built TigerMoths, Stampes plus various ex-militar y aircraft suchas Me. lOSs and 109s, Spitfires, Sea Furies and others.One of the first problems the new American owner encounters is how (and if the FAA will license the aircraft. All the aircraft mentioned have never been certificated in the U.S.A. and no category exists for suchmachines . except the catch-all "Exhibition" classification. Several hundred non U. S type certificated aircraft have been placed in this category in recent years.This caused no undue hardship until the crash of theF-S6 into an ice cream parlor in Sacramento Californialast fall.

    Now, all FAA offices have been instructed to enforce

    the letter of the law on Exhibition Category aircraft.This means the plane can ONLY be used for proficiencyflights in a small local area designated by the FAA,flown to and from bona fide air shows, and with no passengers. Obviously, this renders these otherwise fine aircraft almost useless.

    In order to bring about some relief for owners ofsuch aircraft, EAA President Paul Poberezny called ameeting of all national sport aviation groups and theFAA at EAA Headquarters. That meeting was heldMarch 2 A second meeting will be held at Hales Cornerson April 30. As of this writing there are indications thatyour organization's efforts will bring much needed relief to owners of these fine vintage aircraft

    This is Joseph L. McKinstray (EAA 50730), 1500 W.Belle St., Belleville, III. 62223 and his 1946 Piper J-3which he completely restored. The plane was destroyed(?) by fire and was acquired by Joe in March of 1970.

    Two years later he had it flying again. The bird requiredone spar, 50 new ribs, new instruments, and a different engine and prop. It is covered in Stits Polyfiberand is painted as close to original (except for side numbers) as possible.

    MENASCO NEEDSH. C Leydecker, 2031 Sprucewood Place, Birming

    ham Alabama 35214 has a Menasco D-4-S7 A that is almost new but lacks a few parts: one intake valve rocker

    and shaft starter and adapter and a gasket set. Cananyone help?Mr. Leydecker is also restoring a 1946 14-13-2

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    EAA Antique /Classic embroidered patches (pictured at right)- A d is tinc tive , colorful emblem . 1 .50 eachEAA Caps - men and ladies. Specify small, medium , large,

    or extra large . Ladies , one size . 2 .25 each

    1973 EAA Calendar . Made of heavy , unbleached cloth .Features full color renditions of a Standard J-1 ,P-51, Scorpion Helicopter, and a Dyke Delta. $2.30 each

    EAA Flight Bags . Durable nylon with waterproof lining. Bluewith EAA decal on both sides . 4 .50 each

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    Wood . Vol. 1 $2.00Wood. Vol. 2 $2.50Sheet Metal . Vol. 1 $2.50Sheet Metal. Vol. 2 $2 .5 0Tips on Fa tigue . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . $2 .5 0Welding . . . . . . . . . . . . $2.00Dope and Fabric . . . . . . . . . . $2.50Hand Tools . Vol. 1 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .. . $2 .5 0Hand Tools . Vol. 2 $2.50CAM 18 (Reprint) $3.00CAM 107 (Reprint) . $4 .00Flying and Glider Manual Reprints . .

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    The Vintage Airplane is the official publication of Antique Classic Aircraft, Inc.,a division of The Experimental Aircraft Association, Hales Corners, W i s ~ o n s i n .