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Vendors ousted By GARY COULL Vendors have been banned from selling their goods in SUB. In a close vote Wednesday night, Alma Mater Society student council decided to prohibit vendor sales on the recommendation of Councillors who supported the ,vendors immediately began a campaign to challenge the council . SUB management committee. decision and put the matter before a student referendum. Under the AMS constitution a council decision can be put to referendum if a properly worded petition gets signatures from 500 students: Unofficial vendor spokesman Jim Ince said after the decision that the petition would be cir- culated around SUB today. In the meantime, Ince said, he won’t sell his goods until the situation is resolved. It was not immediately known whether any of the other vendors who were notably upset at the council decision, .would attempt to defy the eviction order. After a wild debate for nearly two hours between councillors and about 20 vendors a motion 9 SHARP CONTRAST of innocent mother an’d child in nature and Trident posts signifying nuclear warheads in -- doUg field photo submarine was captured in rare winter sunshineWednesdaynear Main library. Gov’t ignores Trident By HEATHER WALKER The apathy and ignorance of the Canadian government. regardingtheTridentsubmarine base and its implications in nuclear arms policy is “profound,” a formerdisarmamentexpert to the United Nations said Wed- nesday night. William Epstein was speaking in apanel discussionwithNDP-MP Stu Leggatt and engineer Robert Aldridge on the proposed Bangor, Wash., submarine base, in the Instructional Resources Centre. But Leggatt said there was “no * Canadian input” in the Trident decision. According to him, external af- fairs minister, Alan McEachen told Leggatt in a letter there was “no requirement for the U.S. to consult with Canada on this issue” and “no representation to U.S. authorities on this matter.” Hethenwenton, Leggatt said, “to write a page and a half to me on deterrence and its importance to Canada, and to saythat Canada was under the U.S.’s ‘nuclear umbrella’ and t h u s benefited from American deterrence policies. “There is a lack of awareness in the importance of Trident,” Leggatt said. Leggatt also said Canada is “incrediblytimid in dealing with the U.S., especially in matters of defense.” He said Canada renewed the Northern Radar Air Defense treaty strictly because it would be “diplomatically wrong” and “unnecessarily abrasive to the United States” not to. Leggatt felt agreement on these grounds “erodes Canadian sovereignty” because Canadians do not have any say in American defense policy. Aldridge, a former engineer for the Lockheed Corporation, opened the discussion with a brief description of the submarines. He said the submarines would be built in two stages - Trident 1 and 2. The first will have twice the range of the currently used Posei- don class submarines, and the others, scheduled for completion in 1987, will have a range of “6,000 miles plus,” Aldridge said. Moreon Trident, pages 11, 12 “The trend in the Poseidon, Trident 1 and Trident 2 submarines is towards greater accuracy,” Aldridge said. “They can only be interpreted as a move to offensive power.” Aldridge was referring to in- creased accuracy of the Trident missiles in hitting their targets, and their capability as first strike weapons. A first strike weapon is one which has the potential to destroy the enemy’s nuclear arms supply at one blow. But Epstein denied the possibility of anyone ever developing a true first strike weapon. “It is impossible for one strike to sub base get absolutely everything,” he said. But if one‘ Poseidon submarine was left in the case of a first strike by the Russians, it could destroy 160 targets, he said. He added that even if a first strike could destroy all the land- based targets; it would be im- possible to remove the threat of all the submarines, because it is impossible to loca.tethem all at the same time. “The military likesto think they can get first strikepossibility, but they can’t,’’ Epstein said. Epstein said the American military had come up with several reasons for the Trident submarine base. “They say they have to keep pace with the Russians, but the Americans are already five to seven years a.head of the Russians,” he said. “They have been forcing the pace (of the nuclear arms race) all along. Theyhadthe firstatomic bomb, and they had MIRVs (multiple independently-guided re- entry vehicles) in 1968, and the Russians only developed them in 1975. “They also say they can be used against an antisubmarine warfare breakthrough, but there won’t be one,” Epstein said. He said the US. has spent $20 billion on anti-sub warfare in the last few years, but without any swcess. “And there’s no evidence of a See page 9: TRIDENT from SUB outlawing vendor sales from SUB passed 10 to 8 with one abstention. The vendors were urged to sell their crafts through the AMs co-op bookstore which operates in the SUB basement. But the crafts- people have opposed the idea because of pay delays, lack of exposure for their goods, desire to sell their own goods and no space for the extra merchandise in the co-op. Effective today, the vendorswill not be allowed to sell in SUB and willbe asked to leave if they at- tempt to set up shop. The Great Vendor Debate has been waging for the past few years, since the vendors first attempted to peddle their wares on campus. AMS officials have tried to regulate the number of vendors to conform with fire regulations and to alleviate overcrowding problems in the SUB concourse. Said a report from the SUB management committee which has been investigating the matter: “Many attempts have been made to solve the problem of table vendors in the main concourse of SUB. Essentially these involved limiting the number of tables available and, then, charging a nominal fee. “However, these policies were difficult, if not impossible, to en- force. “The vendors, if refused per- mission to sell in SUB, often came anyway and, when asked to leave, refused. Tables disappeared from booked rooms only to appear downstairs in use. “Collecting the table rental also proved very difficult.” The report says that to include the wagesof bookkeepers, proctors and the general manager ap- plicable to vendors in the rental would make this charge prohibitively high. “It is a problem of control. Such controls areexpensive and difficult to enforce. Moreover, they haven’t worked in the past.” The SUB management com- mittee, headed by AMS co- ordinator Nadine McDonnell, put forward four main arguments against vendors selling their own goods in SUB: 0 limited spaceandrulesand See page 2: SOME Dailly partly blames profs for illiteracy ~ By MARK BUCKSHON but “it is my opinion that it should Wednesdayattackeduniversity Dailly, speaking to a meeting of education faculty professors for the Port Coquitlam chamber of their part in declining literacy of commerce in Port Moody, faced a elementary and high school barrage of questions from students. businessmen questioning teacher Commenting on a new program salary increases and the of elementary and high school irrelevance of high school literacy tests Dailly said the education to their business needs. literacy problem has roots in Also on the panel were repre- university education faculties. sentatives of Coquitlam school “%me of them - some people in board teachers, Canada Manpower the universities - are critical of and a chartered bank. our high school teachers for their Dailly said results of literacy way of teaching English. tests being administered to grade 4 “I’d say to those people at the and grade 12 students will probably universities in the faculties of show the literacy deficiency education and other faculties, ‘You problem isnot “a cause for panic.” havetaughttheteachers how to But she said problems in teach.’ curriculum which developed in the Dailly was speaking to a group of 1960s made it possible forsome Port Cowitlam businessmen in a teachers to neglect teaching basic paneldiscussion arranged before reading and arithmetic skills. the Dec. 11 provincial election was Dailly said the university announced. faculties of education also have a Dailly also said: responsibility to change. 0 She does not favor at this time “If their curriculum at the the division of her portfolio into two universities is not adequate - ministries for public schools and particularly in the faculties of post-secondary education; education, where they have to train 0 She is not opposed to univer-teachers - they have a respon- sities requiring entrance exams for sibility to the public to change, new students; too. 0 It is up to the Universities Dailly pointed out that when she Council to decide the future of tookoffice in 1972she found that at Notre Dame University in Nelson See Page 2: AUTONOMY Education minister Eileen Dailly grant (its own) degrees.” CIRCUS MINIMUS . . . performs Trident Drotest doug field photo

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Vendors ousted By GARY COULL

Vendors have been banned from selling their goods in SUB.

In a close vote Wednesday night, Alma Mater Society student council decided to prohibit vendor sales on the recommendation of

Councillors who supported the ,vendors immediately began a campaign to challenge the council

. SUB management committee.

decision and put the matter before a student referendum.

Under the AMS constitution a council decision can be put to referendum if a properly worded petition gets signatures from 500 students:

Unofficial vendor spokesman Jim Ince said after the decision that the petition would be cir- culated around SUB today. In the

meantime, Ince said, he won’t sell his goods until the situation is resolved.

It was not immediately known whether any of the other vendors who were notably upset a t the council decision, .would attempt to defy the eviction order.

After a wild debate for nearly two hours between councillors and about 20 vendors a motion

9 SHARP CONTRAST of innocent mother an’d child in nature and Trident posts signifying nuclear warheads in -- doUg field photo

submarine was captured in rare winter sunshine Wednesday near Main library.

Gov’t ignores Trident By HEATHER WALKER

The apathy and ignorance of the Canadian government. regarding the Trident submarine base and its implications in nuclear arms policy is “profound,” a former disarmament expert to the United Nations said Wed- nesday night.

William Epstein was speaking in a panel discussion with NDP-MP Stu Leggatt and engineer Robert Aldridge on the proposed Bangor, Wash., submarine base, in the Instructional Resources Centre.

But Leggatt said there was “no * Canadian input” in the Trident

decision. According to him, external af-

fairs minister, Alan McEachen told Leggatt in a letter there was “no requirement for the U.S. to consult with Canada on this issue” and “no representation to U.S. authorities on this matter.”

He then went on, Leggatt said, “to write a page and a half to me on deterrence and its importance to Canada, and to say that Canada was under the U.S.’s ‘nuclear umbrella’ and t h u s benefited from American deterrence policies.

“There is a lack of awareness in the importance of Trident,” Leggatt said.

Leggatt also said Canada is “incredibly timid in dealing with the U.S., especially in matters of defense.”

He said Canada renewed the Northern Radar Air Defense treaty strictly because it would be

“diplomatically wrong” and “unnecessarily abrasive to the United States” not to.

Leggatt felt agreement on these grounds “erodes Canadian sovereignty” because Canadians do not have any say in American defense policy.

Aldridge, a former engineer for the Lockheed Corporation, opened the discussion with a brief description of the submarines.

He said the submarines would be built in two stages - Trident 1 and 2. The first will have twice the range of the currently used Posei- don class submarines, and the others, scheduled for completion in 1987, will have a range of “6,000 miles plus,” Aldridge said.

More on Trident, pages 11, 12

“The trend in the Poseidon, Trident 1 and Trident 2 submarines is towards greater accuracy,” Aldridge said.

“They can only be interpreted as a move to offensive power.”

Aldridge was referring to in- creased accuracy of the Trident missiles in hitting their targets, and their capability as first strike weapons.

A first strike weapon is one which has the potential to destroy the enemy’s nuclear arms supply at one blow.

But Epstein denied the possibility of anyone ever developing a true first strike weapon.

“It is impossible for one strike to

sub base get absolutely everything,” he said.

But if one‘ Poseidon submarine was left in the case of a first strike by the Russians, it could destroy 160 targets, he said.

He added that even if a first strike could destroy all the land- based targets; it would be im- possible to remove the threat of all the submarines, because it is impossible to loca.te them all at the same time.

“The military likes to think they can get first strike possibility, but they can’t,’’ Epstein said.

Epstein said the American military had come up with several reasons for the Trident submarine base.

“They say they have to keep pace with the Russians, but the Americans are already five to seven years a.head of the Russians,” he said.

“They have been forcing the pace (of the nuclear arms race) all along. They had the first atomic bomb, and they had MIRVs (multiple independently-guided re- entry vehicles) in 1968, and the Russians only developed them in 1975.

“They also say they can be used against an antisubmarine warfare breakthrough, but there won’t be one,” Epstein said.

He said the US. has spent $20 billion on anti-sub warfare in the last few years, but without any swcess.

“And there’s no evidence of a See page 9 : TRIDENT

from SUB outlawing vendor sales from SUB passed 10 to 8 with one abstention.

The vendors were urged to sell their crafts through the AMs co-op bookstore which operates in the SUB basement. But the crafts- people have opposed the idea because of pay delays, lack of exposure for their goods, desire to sell their own goods and no space for the extra merchandise in the co-op.

Effective today, the vendors will not be allowed to sell in SUB and will be asked to leave if they at- tempt to set up shop.

The Great Vendor Debate has been waging for the past few years, since the vendors first attempted to peddle their wares on campus.

AMS officials have tried to regulate the number of vendors to conform with fire regulations and to alleviate overcrowding problems in the SUB concourse.

Said a report from the SUB management committee which has been investigating the matter: “Many attempts have been made to solve the problem of table vendors in the main concourse of SUB. Essentially these involved

limiting the number of tables available and, then, charging a nominal f e e .

“However, these policies were difficult, if not impossible, to en- force.

“The vendors, if refused per- mission to sell in SUB, often came anyway and, when asked to leave, refused. Tables disappeared from booked rooms only to appear downstairs in use.

“Collecting the table rental also proved very difficult.”

The report says that to include the wagesof bookkeepers, proctors and the general manager ap- plicable to vendors in the rental would make this charge prohibitively high.

“It is a problem of control. Such controls areexpensive and difficult to enforce. Moreover, they haven’t worked in the past.”

The SUB management com- mittee, headed by AMS co- ordinator Nadine McDonnell, put forward four main arguments against vendors selling their own goods in SUB:

0 limited space and rules and See page 2: SOME

Dailly partly blames profs for illiteracy

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By MARK BUCKSHON but “it is my opinion that it should

Wednesday attacked university Dailly, speaking to a meeting of education faculty professors for the Port Coquitlam chamber of their part in declining literacy of commerce in Port Moody, faced a elementary and high school barrage of questions from students. businessmen questioning teacher

Commenting on a new program salary increases and the of elementary and high school irrelevance of high school literacy tests Dailly said the education to their business needs. literacy problem has roots in Also on the panel were repre- university education faculties. sentatives of Coquitlam school

“%me of them - some people in board teachers, Canada Manpower the universities - are critical of and a chartered bank. our high school teachers for their Dailly said results of literacy way of teaching English. tests being administered to grade 4

“I’d say to those people a t the and grade 12 students will probably universities in the faculties of show the literacy deficiency education and other faculties, ‘You problem isnot “a cause for panic.” have taught the teachers how to But she said problems in teach.’ ” curriculum which developed in the

Dailly was speaking to a group of 1960s made it possible for some Port Cowitlam businessmen in a teachers to neglect teaching basic panel discussion arranged before reading and arithmetic skills. the Dec. 11 provincial election was Dailly said the university announced. faculties of education also have a

Dailly also said: responsibility to change. 0 She does not favor at this time “If their curriculum at the

the division of her portfolio into two universities is not adequate - ministries for public schools and particularly in the faculties of post-secondary education; education, where they have to train

0 She is not opposed to univer- teachers - they have a respon- sities requiring entrance exams for sibility to the public to change, new students; too. ”

0 It is up to the Universities Dailly pointed out that when she Council to decide the future of tookoffice in 1972she found that at Notre Dame University in Nelson See Page 2: AUTONOMY

Education minister Eileen Dailly grant (its own) degrees.”

CIRCUS MINIMUS . . . performs Trident Drotest d o u g field photo

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Page 2 T H E U B Y S S E Y Thursday, November 27, 1975

Autonomy emphasized From page 1

one university education faculty, teachers were being graduated to primary schools without learning to teach reading.

Dailly did not name the university.

“I was shocked to find it was possible to go through the college of education in one of the univer- sities in the province, where the primary teachers who have to teach reading were never taught to teach reading.”

Dailly said she has remedied that problem.

On entrance exams for universities, she said: “This depends on the universities. If they

feelit is necessary to do so, there is nothing to stop them from it.”

She emphasized that universities must have autonomy from the government.

“The first step toward totalitarian society is when the government starts interfering in universities.”

Dailly said she finds, “we’re almost the only province where a single education minister is responsible for both public schools and post-secondary education.”

“It (the single ministry) cer- tainly does make for a lot of work,” she said.

But she said the establishment of a new ministry for post-secondary education would increase the size

- of the cabinet, a move which may be unpopular with the public.

She said she has taken the alternative approach of dividing responsibilities within her department through separate deputy ministers.

“At this time I’d prefer the latter approach.”

(TheB.C. Students Federation at a conference in Kamloops Monday called for dividing the education portfolio because Dailly is over- burdened and cannot give enough attention to higher education.)

Dailly said that it is the responsibility of the Universities Council to decide the future of Notre Dame University.

Some control necessary’ Dailly had announced earlier

Notre Dame would be phased out after next year and a new public university would redace it to serve

From page 1 regulations such as fire bylaws, business license, moral respon- sibility for goods, legal respon- sibility to lessees and redundancy of goods means some control is necessary ;

UBC students who each pay a $15 SUB ‘building f e e are sub- sidizing vendors by providing free overhead for them;

0 the AMS co-op bookstore, which was founded several years ago as a means for students to sell their used textbooks, has expanded into the crafts field and provides a market for students who can’t afford to sit behind tables. The bookstore is currently running a t a, loss and one reason cited is because of the business taken away by the vendors.

(Another reason is that the university has gone back into the business of selling old books.) ;

0 there is some suggestion that the vendors are merely extensions of businesses on Fourth Avenue and the downtown area.

The vendors, some of whom brought their children to the meeting, were not organized formally and presented their view- points as individuals attacking the m a n a g e m e n t c o m m i t t e e ’ s

bylaws and being morally responsible for the goods they sell.

He said he did not think there were many of the same goods being sold in SUB and, as another vendor pointed out, even if there were it would be up to the students to decide which they liked best.

Another vendor suggested that SUB be divided into areas where craft sales would not violate laws and would not inconvenience anyone. He said the AMS could charge money for the right to sell and any money could be passed along to the co-op bookstore.

“There are 20,OOO students out here and they can support more than one craft store,” he told the meeting. He said that without the overhead the craftspeople can generally afford to sell their goods more cheaply than other stores and because of this they perform a service to students.

Linda Miles, arts 2, read a letter to council in’ which she defended the vendors as adding to the at- mosphere and providing a con- venience for students. !‘It has been an important part of my university life.”

She argued that the AMs should bring the co-op bookstore up from the basement to comDete with the

reasons. vendors rather than wipe out the

makes beaded jewelry, said the “& it stands, removing the various laws governing people who competition will not help the craft sell their crafts can be overcome. store’s business. As a matter of He included getting a business fact, a lot of students I know will be licence, complying with fire sure to boycott the craft store.”

John Percy, who told council he competition.

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Dailly said the new institution would “integrate third- and fourth- year degree programs around the province.”

She said, “it could be” that the institution would not grant its own degrees but she noted she believes it should do so.

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Thursday, November 27, 1975 T H E U . B Y S S E Y Page 3

A W E votes 67% for str ike UBC library and clerical

workers, upset a t slow progress in negotiations for. a new contract with the university administration, Wednesday voted 67 per cent in favor of strike action.

The workers, represented by the Association of University and College Employees, local 1, have been negotiating for a new contract since theirpld one expired Sept. 30.

However, they cannot ‘strike before mediator Ed Sims has made a report on the dispute. Sims will meet with union representatives Thursday and UBC administration officials Friday, and if no set- tlement is- reached in those meetings he must prepare a report.

Of about 1,250 workers eligible to vote, 1,130 voted 66.9 per cent in favor of striking if no solution is reached.

Union president Ian Mackenzie, a worker in the library circulation department, ’ said Wednesday the vote was necessary because “nothing of any substance has been settled since early October.”

Sims was appointed mediator in the dispute in mid-October when the administration requested to the

Smoking ban doesn’t fix UBC habits

A rwent UBC senate motion re- ‘ affirming a smoking ban in lec-

tures is having little effect on campus smoking habits, according to students questioned Wednesday.

According to all of the twenty or so students asked, few professors prohibit smoking in their classes and many of them smoke them- selves. One student, a non-smoker, said only when students in the class vote to specifically stop smoking is the regulation upheld.

On Nov. 12, senate clarified a 1934 university ” regulation outlawing smoking in lecture halls and examination rooms.

In addition, a new regulation was .’ passed prohibiting smoking in

study areas, public washrooms and theatres. Senate also agreed to recommend to. the board of governors that smoking be banned from where food is cooked or displayed.

The motion recommended that special smoking areas be set up in university buildings and cafeterias.

Predictably, the smokers and non-smokers had differing views on the senate motion.

A group of smokers interviewed . in Buchanan lounge said that while

they realized cigarette fumes could offend some people, they enjoyed their cigarettes and found it very difficult to work or study without them.

Several complained that since , Sedgewick library has done away

with its smoking room the library has become useless to them, and they suggested bringing back the smoking room.

All the smokers strongly disagreed with the proposed ban on smoking in eating areas.

“Having a special section for smokers will only increase the herding atmosphere that already a f f e c t s UBC,” one student said.

Most smokers agreed with the idea of setting up special smoking areas in the university buildings, though.

The general consensus of both smokers and non-smokers was that non-smokers could tolerate the fumes easier than most smokers could face the thought of no cigarette.

However, one non-smoker had a very definite idea of a solution to the problem: ‘‘Put a big fucking tarp up in B lot and if people want to smoke, they can go out there and do it.”

TIME LAPSE PHOTOGRAPHY caught this section of UBC in with leafless, cold dreary winter months. Time lapse will fade away between seasons Wednesday combining the bright freshwss af spring soon after Christmas when real spring will be here.

- doug field photo

NUS is nof useless - Buckingham The National Union of Students

has long been attacked as being a weak, ineffect ive and divided organization. Because NUS will ask UBC students t o increase their contribution to NUS coffers to $1 per student per year from the present 35 cents per student per- year, the flak has been hitting the lobbying organization much harder this year than it has in past years . N U S f ie ldworker Bob. Buckingham took the opportunity of a visit to campus to defend NUS to Ubyssey staffers.

Buckingham told Gee The Ubyssey’s coverage of NUS has been “negative.” What follows is Buckingham’s views on NUS.

By MARCUS GEE The National Union of Students

has been called .gutless, b o o t l i c k i n g , i r r e l e v a n t , unrepresentative and useless.

But NUS fieldworker Bob Buckingham blamed such criticisms on “misconceptions” about the three-year-old organization. He was clearly on the defensive -throughout an interview Wednesday, trying to defend NUS policies while hesitating at stating his opinions.

“My job is to implement policy,” he said. As one of three paid NUS staffers Buckingham said he is spending m o s t of his time helping student unions across the country. -

Helping them do what, he is asked. At this point Buckingham pointed to .NUS’ work on a for- thcoming handbook - about organizing women at post- secondary institutions.

But he said NUS is not prepared to play a role. in grass roots organizing itself.

“NUS is a co-ordinating and leading organization. We a re getting student unions to help students.

“For example, if UBC stpdents d6cided they wanted to take action NUS would give them its resour- ces.”

Buckingham said it is the role of individual student unions to clrganize students around specific issues and NUS’ job to “provide information.”

“NUS will not interfere with the internal operations of student unions.”

Many have argued. Canadian students do not care about the issues NUS has been rgsing. Buckingham was asked if he thought issues like student aid would mobilize students to support the organization.

“Why not,’ he said. “At the October (NUS) conference we zeroed in on the Canada Student Loan Plan. The issue (of student aid) affects 30 per cent of the students in the country.”

Buckingham said NUS is using issues like student aid to develop a student movement in Canada. He said only national conferences can decide which issues to focus on. ’ “It is vitally important to develop a strong student movement in this country.”

But Buckingham said strengthening NUS comes first. “We have the practical problem of making a strong student organization.”

Buckingham claimed NUS is providing leadership to its 150,000 members, though it is not the traditional kind.

“Doing research and disseminating information is providing leadership.

“It is not bringing students into the streets but I am not sure bringing students into the streets is the solution now. There may be a better way of doing it (providing leadership) .”

One of the examples of NUS

He said NUS distributed in- formation from the UBC off- campus housing office this sum- mer to many Canadian campuses and this helped many students find housing.

He also said NUS has led pressure against tuition fee in- creases across the country.

“At the University of Calgary a NUS committee set up a common front to oppose higher tuition fees for foreign students,” he said. “That is socially relevant to me.”

Buckingham reacted defensively to suggestions that most students do not care about the issues NUS flogs.

“I think student aid is very important as it relates to the ac- cessibility of education.”

But he admitted NUS is using issues such a s student aid to try to show students NUS is actually doing something.

“NUS has the function of relating what federal and provincial governments do, a f f e c t s students.”

Yet NUS has no policy on either

providing “leadersh’lp” has oc- curred at UBC, Buckingham said.

BUCKINGHAM . . . Hi, I’m from NUS

education or wage and price controls, Buckingham said.

“Nobody realizes yet how the controls will affect them. Because we didn’t have the resources we haven’t had time to put forth a policy. We have started research. The research could take some time.”

Asked how NUS could rally students around national issues with a slow policy-making process, Buckingham said “I admit our reactions are sluggish.”

Buckingham said NUS policies must represent the wishes of its 150,000 members because they have all voted in referenda to shell out $1 each to NUS.

“Of course we a re represen- tative.”

Buckingham rejected the suggestion that NUS could react better to student wishes by becoming more regionally and provincially oriented.

“Regional representation is not going to make much difference to the organization. The way the present student movement is now I think NUS is the best structure it could be.”

Buckingham said he is not sure what NUS will do with the $180,000 it will have in next year’s budget. But he said NUS might decide to hire more researchers and field- workers.

There are currently only three paid NUS staffers: two field- workers and one secretary, and Buckingham said this is not enough for the “600,000 post-secondary students in Canada.”

Buckingham agreed with critics that NUS is not a significant force for social change, a s traditional student movements have been.

“It is important we have a broader perspective of social issues and recognize social barriers. But we have to ask ‘do we organize people living in the slums!” .

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W h y . them, - not us Education minister Eileen Dailly

on Wednesday chose a strange audience to get an important message across.

A group of conservat ive, businessmen a t a meeting in Port Moody hardly represents the majority of unfortunate souls who must pass through Dailly‘s education system.

But she told those businessmen that the English literacy problem, a major iSue these days, has roots in another group of people whose attitudes also don‘t reflect the needs of students:

University professors. Sure, the employers wants trained

workers who will dutifully and loyally work to make them rich.

And the university professors have failed to provide the means of training the kind of employee the boss wants.

But the professors have also failed to provide a means of teaching students how to effectivelv learn

Humanism and ”relevance“ in education are important. And an attitude that the student doesn‘t need to be a robot to survive is also healthy.

But the student also needs to know the .basic skills to prevent himself from being taken advantage of.

It boi ls down to s imple communication. Without being able to express your point of view or being able to digest information and formulate an opinion you’re lost.

Hopefully, that was the message Queen Eileen was trying to get across. I f it was, she might not be that bad after all.

But we wonder. Why was she speaking to that

group of Coquitlam businessmen, and not directly to the students and profs she was criticizing.

Was she trying to teach . the businessmen a ‘ lesson they aren’t willing to learn, or was she simply a f ra id t o . face the universitv

how to survive and achieve. I .professors and students directlv?

Paper blasted

An open letter to the Alma Mater Society:

Because The Uhyssey refuses to sincerely respond to numerous criticisms concerning its lack of quality in writing and language by improving, I ask that funding and financial records of the paper be publicly disclosed.

I then propose that the AMS consider the following suggestions:

1. Eliminate funding for The Ubyssey. This would eliminate the problem.

2. Temporarily, for one month, charge 10 cents for the paper. This would allow for a ‘student vote’ of support or non-support without, requiring a referendum.

Thereason I persist in criticizing The Ubyssey is because I ,attended a university as largeas UBC where the student newspaper was produced daily, marketed in stores throughout the city as well as in the student union building, and sold by subscription. I have been spoiled by Quality as discussed by Robert Pirsig in Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Mairitenance.

A. Delaney Walker creative writing 2

The Ubyssey budget ixpublished in the paper along with the Alma. Mater Society budget in early October every year. Since it didn’t have any swearing included you probably missed it.

You are, under some gross misconceptions about how The Ubyssey operates. Our total budget this year is about $124,000, $26,000 of which is a subsidy from the AMs.

The remainder of our money comes from advertisers, so cutting off the AMS funds won’t eliminate “the problem” as you call it. ’ .

If studentscouncil indeed felt it should have that kind of control over a democratically-run news- paper [we doubt it wouldl, The Ubyssey could conceivably publish without the subsidy. As for your second suggestion, it

also is the result of misin- formation. If we charged 10 cents per student per paper we’d make a [pardon us] hell of a profit. You wouldn’t want us to rip off the students would you A.?

In your second point you believe students should be given the op- portunity to voice their ophion about the paper. When you were probably away at “a university as

large as UBC” students did vote in a referendum on how often they wished to see the paper published. They wanted it three times a week.

We don’t think The Ubyssey has changed its writing style that much - since then, so there is no reason to believe we don’t have the general support of most students.

The Ubyssey tries to present stimulating, well-written articles about the campus community, educational concerns and issues which affect students as people in the outside world.

We try to cut through some of the standard garbage dished out to people and in the process often come across people who use dirty words.

Ubyssey editors don’t consider it their duty to censor life, for swear words, A., are part of the every day and we can’t believe anyone -is prudish enough to be grievously offended when words like “shit” and “crap” and “dump” and “tuna’ fish” appear in the paper.

Swear words, when they do appear, are not used for shock value, but are usually part of telling the s toryStaff .

Thanks I

We are thankful for the op- portunity. we have had placed before us by the Pacific Life Community. As followers of Jesus we must affirm with him the value of the lives of all-men and women.

Trident is but one expression of a system of domination and. o p pression which seeks the security of a few a t the expense of the well- being of the majority. We stand with the PLC in their struggle to raise the consciousness of this university and the surrounding community and we agree with them that an affirmation of life and

non-violence is the only response that will liberate us from fear and death.

The source of our hope as Christians lies in the efficacy of our leader’s. death and resurrection.

We are told by one of the early Christian writers that conflict and quarrels are the result of envy and self-centred motives. As people who are committed to a way of life which expresses our rejection of all forms of domination over others we support the efforts of the PLC.

Trident is not only an expression of our separation from each other *but it vividly reveals our separation from God. We are beginning to understand that besides the individual aspects of rebellion toward God there is also a corporate level a t which govern- ments and social institutions show their essential godlessness by oppressing the innocent and bringing fear to their enemies.

.We are calling for a change in structures as well as in people’s individual lives for we recognize that Gad hates the injustice of both individual and corporate op- pression.

As disciples of Jesus we call people tocome with us and become a new kind of humanity where love and forgiveness are the norms. We publicly confess our inadequacy and our lack of sincerity which so often characterize our action in the world but we rely upon God who loves people and changes them into men and women who will affirm the unity and value of all humgnkind.

Jesus not only makes it possible for us to re-establish our relationship with God as in- dividuals but he gives us a model in his life for relating with other people without fear and selfishness.

la members of, Inter-varsity Christian Fellowship

THE U8YSSW NOVEMBER 27,1975

Published Tuesdays, Thursdays and Fridays throughout the university year by the Alma Mater Society of the University of B.C. Editorial opinions are

Member, Canadian University Press. The Ubyssey publishes Page Friday, a those of the staff and not of the AMS or the university administration.

Weekly commentary and review. The Ubyssey’s editorial offices are located in mom 241K of the Student Union Building. Editorial departments, 228-2301: Sports, 228-2305; Advertising, 228-3977.

Editor: Gary Coull

Doug Rushton. Chris Gainor, Gregg Thompson, Heather Walker, Phil Hardly any room but for the names. But what names: Gary Coull.

Smith, Marcus Gee, Peter Cummings and Doug Field, wasps all. Mark Buckshon. definitely not a wasp (even has a different country club). Then there’s the d.p.’s, who don’t get any country club, except out in the gulag: Ralph Maurer, Sue Vohanka and Led MacKave. Don’t let the name fool ya: he’s really a Russki.

Money In a story about administration

vice-president William White your reporter says: “He (White) watches UBC bagmen - the workers in the university resources office who try to gather loot from rich businessmen in assorted fund-raising campaigns.”

The use of the term “bagmen” is sloppy usage unless there is reason for “moderate contempt,” and as your reporter appears to know very little about the resources office he could hardly have such reason.

The resources office is con- cerned with all gifts to UBC, not only “assorted” campaigns. Such campaigns in the last fiscal year accounted for -17 per cent of the total gifts received, a somewhat similar result to that in most years.

Businessmen - many of whom would not be described as rich - happily do support UBC. So do a host of others: UBC students, alumni, staff and faculty; many thousands of people from every conceivable walk of life who give annually through more than 100 associations and societies; more than 1,283 non-alumni individuals (last year and most years) ; cor- porations, co-operatives and foundations.

For the fiscal year ending March 31, 1975, UBC received gifts for a total of $6,573,490; foundations $2,131,664; associations $1,741,018; individuals $1,572,554 (including $436,450 from students for SUB, the graduate centre, the pool and other projects, and $286,675 from 7,08 alumni) ; corporations $1,128,24.

The broad designation of these gifts was: research $2,599,900, student aid $2,257,649, capital $2,257,649, teaching $306,600.

Alf Adams, resources office

And so on And you Sterling, D. J., and

John. As’you very clearly pointed out we could rally the facts back and forth, provided we could all find time out from term paper- s/exams to search out all the in- formation we would need.

For example, it is very difficult to obtain information on the $100- $500 million loan the present government acquired from an undisclosed Arab source.

Can you tell me where this money came from, how it is being used, and what are the terms of the agreement? Would you agree that due to government silence on the

affair i t is possible the money went toward reducing the $235 million parity bond debt that Sterling mentioned B.C. Hydro was stuck with.

If this is the case it hasn’t made the debt disappear as Sterling might have us believe, unless the Arabs GAVE them the money.

What happened to the $1.2 million feasibility study, due this past October, which would tell us the prospects for B.C.’s $400 million steel mill? I hope the money wasn’t wasted. ICBC is cheaper than other provinces in car insurance.

Your point well taken - but the rates would have to be raised by 37.5 per cent this year if the 10 cents per gallon gasoline tax were removed. (Based on the average car getting 20 mph and the average driver doing 12,000 miles per year.)

It is good to know that some of Norm Levi’s departmental overrun of $100 million went to a good cause, but worrisome that the government can’t look after public money better than. they are ap- parently able to.

Anyway, as we all realize, there are facts both pro and con con- cerning both the present govern- ment and the opposition. Ideology is hard to change.

There have been a great many election promises in ‘the campaign so far, meaning that there will be a great deal of money being spent. Both the major parties are guilty of this, and I say guilty because in a time of wage and price controls and serious inflation it is usually considered unwise to spend so much. The Liberals and Con- servatives have so far refrained from making any expensive promises.

I feel that neither major party has done enough to prove to the public that they are RESPON- SIBLE, vote buying promises and social programs notwithstanding. It will take too long to go into all the ’ problems concerning the responsibility of government, but everybody knows in their own mind who they feel should form the next government.

One further point I would like to make is that it should be up to the government to encourage people (the word citizen reminds me of 1984) to take greater responsibility for their own well-being. The direction our government seems to be taking. is to encourage the people to let the government look after them.

Obviously there is a lot more that could be said but Christmas is coming, and So are exams.

Russ Millward . ..

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Thursday, November 27, 1975

Day two of coming off poison. . Breakfast: one bowla granola, light cream and fruit.

If you can’t figure out what is involved to get granola from grains, you’re too far gone to make granola. Buy some from someone who knows how.

Start with one of the few grains that isn’t in granola, rice. Eat that with wood ticks. Pretty soon it’ll dawn on you: what you will have to do to get wheat bran, germ, oat- meal and whatever else you can, configured into a thing called granola. Then you can roast it.

After breakfast do not smoke any nicotine.

Before breakfast do not smoke any nicotine.

Name your poison. The devil weed. When did you first smoke it? Fireface first smoked it with his two brothers behind the barn. It got him very dizzy. He had to lean against a tree. They laughed at how dizzy the big people must be all day long.

He smoked it in high school just because it was ill-eagle. He.kept on smoking it in the navy because, beyond the three mile limit of taxes, they only cost 9 cents a pack if purchased by the carton. For those prices he couldn’t afford not to smoke. Then, in college he would smoke it just for something to do.

Fireface compares nicotine to heroin.

A junkie once told Fireface that heroin wasn’t cool unless IT WAS A HABIT, unless it was a way of life. It seemed to Fireface that this same situation was operative during the heroin addiction.

Fireface wakes up and smokes, then he gets up and smokes, then he smokes his coffee -which dulls whatever repair that his body had performed on his throat and tastebuds while he was sleeping and unable to do anything about it (he couldn’t’figure out a way to sleep and smoke a t the same time).

Then he would work and smoke, then drink and smoke, finally ball then smoke, and that would be the end of Fireface for a day.

Some other person may sub- stitute his own way of life plus smoking and find out that he is always going to or coming back from buying nicotine just like a junkie.

One: In order for the smoker to feel satisfied he must overdose. He must do more nicotine than that amount that would make him only dizzy.

Two: He must use the drug to numb himself from knowing that he is .and wants to be dizzy all the time. Reason? because it would be inappropriate for someone who, in all other ways considers himself normal, to admit to himself that he is and wants to be dizzy all the time in work or play.

Three: It is cheap to get and stay dizzy on a maintenance dosage of nicotine. A dollar a day is not too much to pay for a drug when you consider all the chemical additives that the maker of cigarettes goes to the trouble. and expense of spraying onto the stuff for us. So what if a few people forget to put i t out before they go to sleep? In the long haul those unfortunate souls were a very small percentage of the total number who have benefitted?

Fireface has figures to show coincidently, that the number of people who accidently get killed from smoking is about as small as

the number of people who get rich off tobacco.

He worked it out on a bell curve. When you lop off the two extremes, the majority neither win nor lose significantly.

But if nicotine is a part of you, you know that you will spend all that you have if necessary; when nicotine is all of a sudden, gone!

Woodtick rice. Take some boiled rice which you

should have in your refrigerator because you had the foresight to cook enough yesterday or the day before to last two or three days.

If you don’t have any boiled rice cooled, boil some and cool it. Use brown rice because nothing has been stolen from it. After the ritual three washings of the rice, during which time you have played with your food and got to know it by its characteristic feel in case you go blind, leave the same depth of water on top of the rice as there is rice. It will all be gone like magic when the rice is done. Before you cover it, salt it as if it were a medium order of french fries.

Don’t boil the hell out of it, and try not to uncovei it too many times. When it is done, turn off the fireand leave it alone.

Some people eat brown rice all by itself; and some others say that this is not good.

Once, it has cooled and you have come back from whatever you were doing, you are now hungry. You look at the rice and it does not seem to excite you. It has no discernable blood. You should be careful. If you are not familiar with brown rice, its beauty may hide itself from you. You may even want to dump it out and go score some McDonald’s burgers.

Time to add the woodticks. Turn on the fire underneath a

frying pan which has been besmirched with only the most civilized quantityof oil. If you have an artiste in the house, have that artiste paint some oil onto the bottom of the frying pan.

Wait until it is hot before you sprinkle it with the choppings of a red chili pepper. If you think that the seeds of the red pepper will damage your intestinal tract, remove the seeds before chopping. Choose a chili which is about the size of a small scorpion’s tail per two or three handfulls of rice.

Throw in a bunch of raw shelled sunflower seeds and watch them turn to gold. You will know when it is time to add the rice when you see the sunflower seeds resembling the wood ticks that you used to pull out of your doggy’s ears.

If you i r e hungry, broadcast two handfulls of rice onto the frying pan. Turn gently only until the rice is hot.

Eat. Chew well so that you imbue the rice with your saliva. Swallow. You may want to sip water, but don’t overdo it. Let your mouth tell you when its time to stuff in the next chopstick fu l l or shovel full or whatever you use. Keep eating until satisfied. This meal costs about five cents.

If you’vereally worked hard that day and sapped your strength, you may add some crisped, broken, but well‘drained bacon. If you’ve got a whole lot of jingle in your pockets and you really want the taste of blood (this happens) shave some strips off a New York steak and

See page 11

T H E U B Y S S E Y Page 5

NOTICE OF ELECTIONS

OF

STUDENT REPRESENTATIVES

ON

BOARD OF

GOVERNORS AND

SENATE This Notilce is a call for Nominations for Student Represen- tatives to serve on the Board of Governors and the Senate of the University of British Columbia.

THERE ARE THREE SEPARATE ELECTIONS: A. 2 students to serve on the Board of Governors B. 5 students from the student body at large to serve on

C. 1 student from each faculty to serve on Senate Senate

ELIGIBILITY RULES: All ‘full-time’ students are eligible to participate, i.e.

(i) all students taking at least 12 units of course-work in a study program of 15-18 units or at least four-fifths of a prescribed study program, exclusive of

, those registered in the Faculty of Graduate Studies,

(ii) all ‘on campus’ doctoral students,

(iii) all other students registered. in the Faculty of Graduate Studies taking at least 6 units of course-work.

Nominations must be in the hands of the Registrar

no tater than 4:30 p.m. on Friday,

December 19, 1975

Nomination forms and full details of these elections may be obtained from the A.M.S. office or from the Registrar’s Secretary.

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Page 6 T H E U B Y S S E Y Thursday, November 27, 1975

Liberal: wage ‘controls: ecc By PETER O’MALLEY

Canadian University Press OTTAWA - On Thanksgiving Day, five

years less two days since the imposition of the War Measures Act, the federal Liberal government announced its “attack on in- flation” - an economic control program described as “selective wage and price controls.”

Prime minister Pierre Trudeau explained in his televised address to the nation that under this program “a selected number of powerful groups in Canada will be required by law to obey strict guidelines in prices they charge, and incomes they earn.”

He continued by “making a direct appeal for the co-operation of all Canadians in the practice of individual restraint . . . this battle must be fought by all of us.”

‘Rough justice‘ Opposition leader Robert Stanfield said

the program provided “rough justice” in the fight against inflation. As the policy was explained, however, it became apparent that it was “rougher” than it was “just” for most Canadians.

It was, in fact, nothing less than an economic War Measures Act, with those dependent on wagesand salaries playing the starring role of economic cannon fodder.

Within a few days, Canadians generally understood what “individual restraint” meant in terms of their paycheques. Unless they get a better paying job, or do more work at their present job, their ‘wage or salary can only increase by 10 per cent this year, Bper cent next year, and 6 per cent the year after.

The thrust of the policy was clear. There was little doubt expressed over the

enforcibility of this part of the program. Employers in the public sector and the largest 1,500 firms in the country, ‘who together employ just under half the work force, were “ordered” to comply with the wage “guidelines.”

Sky the limit ievel of profit, so as to pay larger dividyds; so as to attract new capital, just Eis in an

As far as profits are concerned, &me because prices qrefWder to control than were to be frozen a t approximately the Sdm&‘ , , w%~?s !’do,&%@$ mean we should throw up level prevailing over the average of the past ’ ”6& and not even try and control five years, which was a record-breaking both,” adding, “we never said the program high profit period. And profits could go is perfect.” above this level if the increase could be It would have been reassuring to those shown to be due to “unusual productivity - concerned with the effectiveness of the price gains resulting from the efforts of the em- restraint aspect of the program if someone

other than Jean Luc Pepin, former Liberal of industry, trade and commerce minister, was made head of the Anti-Inflation Board, which will judge whether the rules or the loopholes will be applied. As a Montreal economic analyst recently

told a meeting of investors, they have no reason to fear profit guidelines will be “strictly enforced” since he would “be surprised to see Jean Luc Pepin come down hard on business.”

Another measure of the government’s intent in enforcing the complex guidelines it

devised was the decision to add 200 new staff to do the work of the Anti-Inflation Board, 40 of whom are to be public relations officers. Many of the . large corporations, whose products must be cost accounted if price increases are to be monitored and in- vestigated, have more accounting staff than the board, and will thus remain in effective control of their financial data and reports.

By contrast to the manpower allocated to administering this economic program, Canada needed a staff of more than 10,OOO

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s ing the war to administer much less npopular controls over a much less com- %ated economy. And the U.S. had a staff ‘more than 5,000 to administer its control *ogram in the early ’70s and later a top lministrator of that program said five mes that number would be needed if they ere ever serious about applying price IfltrOlS. But the Canadian government intends to id a staff of 200 to administer its program. Perhaps a clearer expression of the wernment’s intent in enforcing the

-0gram was the statement in the economic ,Ecy paper indicating that the only other iority areas for increased staff and ending are police and prisons. One of the major items of press teculation since the announcement of the :onomic program has been why the federal berals, who campaigned and won an ection on an “anti-controls’’ platform, mld suddenly “reverse” their position. The puzzle can be solved, however, if we rget about the political rhetoric, consider e program as an effective means of drolling wages and nothing else, and look recent economic trends. The reason for

e government‘s apparent about face then lmes into focus. The results of the first business quarter of 15 showed that an economic turnaround as beginning. For 15 straight business y t e r s , while many workers were tied to 70 and three year collective agreements, vfits increased in relation to wages. In r71 wages accounted for 72.4 per cent of the ttional income, while profits were 12 per n t . By 1974, labor’s percentage of the national come had dropped to 67.9 per cent while ?pra te profits rose to 16.1 per cent. In rms of dollars, between 1971 and 1974 lrporation profits increased from $8.6 llion to $18.3 billion annually, an increase

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attempt to zap’ l&or, to make labor the inflation scapegoat.”

The phrase was identical to one used by Arnold Webster, former director of the U.S. Cost-of-Living Council, when he explained the purpose of the control program he ad- ministered.

“Theidea of the freeze and phase two was to zap labor. And we did,” he boasted after it was all over.

Munro had anticipated the charge correctly. Organized labor did feel “zap- ped” and rather singled out to bear the brunt of the program. But Munro and his colleagues did seem to underestimate the intensity of feeling among the union rank and file.

The story the Liberals were trying to get out was that although the union leadership “might greet the program negatively,” “the rank and file of labor unions understand the need of restraints . . . and I think they will accept it” as one western Liberal leader put it.

Sfrike debafed But at the CUPE convention, the dele-

gates rejected a resolution condemning the controls put forward by their leaders, and demanded another that was tougher. They jeered a t Trudeau when he made a stopover at their hotel to address a business lun- cheon. They howled a t Munro. And they openly debated the calling of a general strike to defeat the economic program.

The official condemnation of organized labor was no surprise, least of all to Munro and the federal government. The Canadian Labour Congress, which represents two million unionized workers, clearly stated its position during last spring’s round of talks on “voluntary restraint” conducted by then finance minister John Turner.

The CLC at that time set out its views in an 80-page memorandum rejecting Turner’s proposed “restraint” package. The primary thrust was that labor would cooperate with a “restraint program only if profits and prices were restrained along with wages and salaries, and only if it included a mechanism whereby wealth and purchasing power were transferred from the higher to the lower income brackets.

They also wanted full employment policies and no restraint until wages caught up with recent profit and price increases.

Since the government’s new program was almost identical to the Turner plan, and since it met none of the CLC’s demands, the nonsupport of organized labor was assured even before the announcement was made.

and-file and the general public the position of the CLC. As well, constitutional lawyers would be

retained to advise the CLC in appealing to, the supreme court for a ruling on the con-

stitutionality of the federal program, a legal question whichis by no means predestined to be answered in the federal government’s favor.

Additionally, the CLC announced that a Special levy of 25 cents per member would be collected to provide $5oo,ooO to finance the campaign.

Battle lines drawn The battle lines in the attack on inflation

are now clearly drawn. On the one side there is the federal government, supported by business and the commercial press. On the other side are the 2.3 million members of the CLC .

But ,a major factor in deciding the out- come of the battle will be the response of the general public in the months ahead.

Will people generally support ‘the government program and believe it to be what Ottawa and the press claim it is - necessary, fair, and workable? Or will they view the program as the CLC depicts it - unnecessary, unfair and unworkable?

One thing is certain. Public attitudes may be influenced by the arguments and rhetoric of the two campaigns, but the general rwponse will be fundamentally determined by the economic results of the program.

The success of the program from the viewpoint of the average Canadian can be reduced to a single question: Will the program result in price restraint and arrest the deterioration of our standard of living, and will it do so without clearing even more unemployment and economic hardship for the middle and low income classes?

The answer will unfold in the economic and political developments which emerge in the upcoming months. From the analysis of the program presented here however, it follows that the program will fail to produce results satisfactory to the wage and salary earning public and the government will be forced to either withdraw or fundamentally amend its program, or utilize its police and prisons to their maximum capacity.

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Centre rattles tin cup Construction on the fund-starved

Asian Centre may recommence by early spring, a fund-raiser for the project said Monday.

Vian Andrews of the university's fund-raising or$an, the resource council, said a fund-drive to raise $3.5 million needed to complete the Asian Centre has been launched.

Construction on the centre stopped late summer after the $1.6 million available for the centre was used up. When the building was originally designed in 1973, cost was estimated at less than $2 million, but inflation and soaring construction costs have driven the fund to over the $5 million mark.

Japanese sources had originally pledged some $800,000 to the building, provincial and federal governments each contributed $400,000 and about $70,000 was pledged by members of the B.C. business community.

In addition, the university donated the land on the site of the centre - a t the west end of cam- pus, near Place Vanier residence - and the Japanese government donated the roof, formerly part of the Sanyo Corporation pavilion at the 1970 World's Fair in Osaka, Japan.

When it became evident earlier this year that the money would not be enough to finish the centre, the fund-raising organization for the

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centre was restructured and An- drews was put in charge. Raising funds for the centre has been a full- time job for Andrews since his appointment.

Andrews recently completed a trip to Ottawa, Montreal and Toronto where he met with repre- sentatives from federal govern- ment, other nations, corporations and corporation foundations.

While he has received no firm commitment for funds from these sources, Andrews emphasized that his talks were preliminary talks, and those organizations would be making decisions whether to give money to the Asian Centre when they review their budgets early in the new year.

He said he has written a report on these meetings and detailing the structure of the fund-raising organization. This report has been presented to UBC administra,tion president Doug Kenny.

Andrews is hoping to raise $1.5 million from corporation foun-

.dations and other sources, $1 million from Asian countries, and $1 million from other sources, including the federal government.

"A lot of interest had been rekindled in the centre," since the fund-raising body has been reorganized, he said, and the construction on the centre could resume in February or March, 1976.

Anti-Cutbacks Committee The A M s Students' Council has established an Anti-Cutbacks Committee to investigate the effect of the Educational cutbacks on students at this University. Any UBC student wishing to sit on this committee is asked to please contact:

Ellen Paul AMS Secretary SUB Rm. 250 or at 228-2050

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For sidling over fo Social Credit

McGeer roasted. at .all candidates meet By GREGG THOMPSON

Socred MLA Pat McGeer may be thinking he would rather have fought than switched after last night’s Point Grey allcandidates

, meeting where a vocal audience heckled the former Liberal at every occasion.

M$eer was one of eight can- didates vying for a Point Grey seat in the Dec. 11 election espousing their cause at the meeting held at Bayview elementary school. .

He began his introductory ranarks with the standard Socred pledge to “get B.C. moving again” but was immediately interrupted by shouts from the crowd,

McGeer asked the hecklers, “Who’s going to get B.C. moving again? the NDP?” The crowd responded with a chorus of “yes! ”

As the roar died, McGeer launched into an attack on unemployment to shouts of “yeah, too many opportunists.”

Garde Gardom and McGeer quit the Liberal party in3ate June and sat as independents for some four months before joining the “unity party” of Social Credit at the end of September.

McGeer faced jibes from the rear as well, as fellow candidates seated behind him made com- ments.

Trident date moved ahead From page 1

Soviet Union breakthrough in anti- submarine warfare.”

Epstein said former president Nixon accelerated the construction of the Trident base.

. “It was originally slated for completion in the 1980s, but Nixon moved it ahead to 1978, so it could be used to bargain with the Russians in SALT (Strategic Arms Limitation Talks).

“Then it becomes an immovable block because the enemy goes to

’ the same level (ih developing their armaments).

“They wanted to- assure their NATO (North Atlantic Treaty Organization) allies and the Pentagon and the reactionaries that they were not giving much away in SALT,” Epstein said.

Epstein also stressed the un- suitability of the Bangor site.

He said all the major cities in the Soviet Union could be reached more easily from a base on the Atlantic-than from the Pacific.

“And the submarines have to pass through the Strait of Juan de

Fuca and Puget Sound, both of which are easy to bottle up, either with mines or with ‘hunter-killer submarines’. Its the worst possible place from a strategic point of view,” he said.

Both Leggatt and Epstein talked about the importance of increasing Canadian involvement in Trident.

Leggatt said he was pessimistic about a change in McEachen’s attitude to the base unless he could be convinced that it represented a trend in the U.S. towards developing a first-strike capacity.

He said most individual MPs were probably ignorant of Trident but that petitioning was “very useful.”

“The public has been anaesthetized (to the threat of nuclear war) over the years,” he said.

By writing letters to MPs, demonstrating and gaining ad- mission to cabinet members, Leggatt said the public and the government would become more aware of the importance of Trident.

McGeer was asked why he didn’t He called for a return to the Liberal candidate Dick Durante re ign when he quit the Liberal system of regional . districts said the 1,700 acres of UEL might party early last summer. decisions making land develop- be used for housing, but only if

While he was explaining that crossing the floor was nothing new in B.C. politics, a placard-waving Liberal shouted, “You should have left a long time ago.”

For a time McGeer conversed on a first-name basis with Liberal supporters seated in the front row.

When the master of ceremonies motioned to McGeer that his five- minute time limit had expired, McGeer told the audience his time was up.

“You actually got a couple of weeks left,” shouted a man from the back of the room.

The crowd erupted in booing and laughter as McGeer sat down.

Later, McGeer was asked a series of questions relating to alleged theft of the telex on railway developments in northern B.C.

A man at the back of the room asked McGeer :

“Were you at a meeting on Nov. 16 where (Socred campaign manager) Dan Cam.pbel1, Robert Bonner (former Socred attorney- general) and Bill Bennett met together to discuss the ‘stolen’ telex message? Did you ask that the telex should first be authen- ticated? Were you at any time told how the document had been ob- tained? Did you ask ? ” *

McGeer answered “yes” to the first question and “no” to’ the others, adding that any evidence of wrongdoing should be followed by an investigation and if necessary, prosecution of individuals responsible.

On. other issues, McGeer’s running mate Gardom said he was committed to having the University Endowment Lands made into a park, “before somebody gets their housing in.”

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McGeer said decisions affecting land use should be given to elected representatives and not be allowed to r a t with “arbitrary bodies in hiding.”

Speaking about foreign ownership of land in B.C., McGeer said that ‘all provincial govern- ments, regardless of party, should move in the direction of controls “within five years.”

Liberal Dick Durante called for “a heavy taxation of foreigners” holding B.C. land, a move which he said would force foreign land holders out of the province.

The future of the government- owned UEL has been hotly debated by the provincial owners, Van- couver city and community in- terest groups over the last several years.

Conservative candidate Neil Brown and NDP candidate Hilda Thomas both said that the UEL shouM be saved strictly for

considerations were first given to development of a park.

Responding to questions on the Land Commission Act, which places the development of all “green-belt” areas in B.C. under strict government control, Pat McGeer said the act should be amended to allow for appeals on commission decisions.

On the issue of rent controls and the Landlord and Tenant Act, Progressive Conservative can- didate Neil1 Brown said Tory policy on the matter would be to lift .

rent controls after “stimulated housing investment” had raised cacancy rates and allowed the forces of supply and demand to bring rates down.

As the meeting drew to a close, Garde Gardom called for com- petition in car insurance to force the Insurance Corporation of B.C. to “stand on its own two feet.”

He said that while ICBC would not be phased out immediately by a Socred government, private in- surance was valuable because it Dresented a “Drofitable tax

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Hoffman is editor of the tiny Titmouse Review and co-author of . Kitsilano You, published last year by Press Porcepic.

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Thursday, November 27, 1975 T H E U B Y S S E Y Page 11

Epstein condemns sub as “killing machine”

BY CHRIS GAINOR The Trident submarine system is

, an immoral waste of money, even from a strategic viewpoint, the former head of the United Nations disarmament commission said Wednesday.

William Epstein, speaking before 200 people in the SUB ballroom with Victoria Liberal MLA David Anderson, called Trident “the greatest killing machine conceived by the mind of man.”

Epstein said the submarine base in Bangor, Wash., 60 miles from Victoria, is a poor location because the subs could be blockaded in the Strait of Juan de Fuca.

A better base location for the subs is in the Atlantic Ocean, which is closer to potential targets in the Soviet Union, he said.

“Bangor is the worst place, the ’ least effective and the most

dangerous place for us,” he said. “It’s completely and totally un- necessary.”

Epstein said Trident should be . completely stopped, but he said the

best way to stop the project is to

have the base moved. “Once we can persuade them to move the damn thing, it’ll die.”

He urged Canadians to tell the US. government they “have no right to put a tiger on their land which will hurt us.”

TheU.S. has enough warheads to destroy. every city in the USSR with populations of more than 100,OoO 36 times over and the USSR can destroy every U.S. city 12 times over, he said.

Each Trident will be able to destroy every Soviet city by itself, Epstein said.

“The Americans are way ahead of the Russians,” he said. “The Americans have forced the pace (of the arms race).”

Trident will escalate the arms race to a new and dangerous plateau, said Epstein. Trident is not necessary for bargaining in the Strategic Arms Limitation Talks, he said.

“The bargaining chips soon become permanent blocks.”

Each Trident sub will cost $1.5 to $1.8 billion and the cost of the 10

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have walls and foundations, but will not be usable.

projected subs will cost more than the total gross annual product of’ B.C., $17 billion, he added.

Anderson, currently the MLA for Victoria, urged that pressure be put on the federal government to protest to the U S . government over the base’s location.

If the U S . government was. forced to move the base, Trident would end, he said.

“In the US. , Trident is not popular,” he said.

One vote on Trident in the US. Senate passed by only 49 to 47, he added. Sen. Henry Jackson, a friend of the U S . military, opposed Trident until the base was located in his home state of Washington, said Anderson.

“At this time, few MPs know or care about Trident,” he said.

Pointing to a map of the Strait of Juan de Fuca, which is on the US.- Canada border, Anderson said, “Tridents will inevitably be in Canadian waters.

“It would be easy for the Soviet fleet to blockade it.”

There is a good chance that a Trident could collide with an oil tanker, he added.

Anderson, who fought in the U.S. courts to prevent oil tankers from moving through the Strait of Juan de Fuca, said his efforts did not stop the tankers but greatly in- creased the cost to the oil com- panies.

Environmentalist5 tried to fight Trident in court but failed, An- derson said.

He said the only way to fight Trident is through political and diplomatic channels.

“In case of a nuclear war, we will be almost instantly in- cinerated.”

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Nuremburg_prosecutor suys

Arms mongers ‘Nazis’ By GREGG THOMPSON

People who comply with the development of nuclear weapons violate principles under which Nazi war criminals were con- victed, a prosecutor at the Nuremburg trials said Tuesday.

Mary Kaufman, a former member of the U S . prosecuting team at Nuremburg, said knowledge of the massive destructive capabilities of the Trident submarine forces in- dividuals to accept responsibility for the horrors the weapon may cause.

Kaufman’s warning came in a speech to a gathering in the In- structional Resources Centre as part of Trident Concern Week, designed to focus public attention on the development of a nuclear submarine base a t Bangor, Wash.

The base, currently being con- structed within 100 miles of the Lower Mainland, will house 10 Trident submarines. Besides homing the most lethal weapon in the history of the world, the base will be a prime target in the event of a nuclear attack,

Kaufman said war criminals at Nuremburg were convicted on the basis of individual knowledge of and complicity in crimes.

And by the same token, she said we must be held responsible for the development of a system which we know to be capable of committing even more terrible crimes.

“If we know the Trident missile system is capable of committing crimes, what is our obligation?” she asked.

“If we take the principles of Nuremburg and say all who sup- port (through taxes) the development of Trident and know it’s use to be a crime, then we are involved in crimes of complicity and we have the duty to resist,” she said.

Kaufman said that while no specific agreement or treaty prohibits the use of nuclear weapons, their use “clearly is illegal under well established principles of international law.”

She said a “fundamental illegality” of the Trident system “is found in the very nature” of the weapon, which can simultaneously strike at 408 targets.

“It cannot distinguish between combatant and non-combatant, target and non-target and it’s ef- fects extend beyond the establish- ment of peace.

“Nuclear weapons know no limits of time and space,” Kauf- man said.

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She cited numerous agreements and treaties, including the UN charter, which are abrogated by the Trident missile system.

Kaufman said it was the duty of all people to “become aware of the issues and contribute to the growing awareness of the dangers posed by Trident.

“We have to create a political climate in which the United States government must be forced to change it’s position,” she said, adding that it was such public political agitation which con- tributed to the end of US. in- volvement in Viet Nam and Cambodia.

Kaufman counselled her audience to “take issues to the courts even though you’re not likely to win,” and stressed the importance of a “mobilization of opinions.”

Also wrticimting in the forum

Davidson of the Vancouver People’s Law School.

In response to a question, H a k n said any action taken against the US. government in the international court a t the Hague wnuldlikely fail because the US. is under no obligation to appear to answer charges.

Hansen said the international court lacks “compulsory jurisdiction” as do national courts, which force defendants to answer charges or face imprisonment.

Davidson said international law faces “problems of enforcement.

“In international legal terms, we have the problem of an absence of ability to punish, to force a law- breaker to conform,” she said.

Davidson spoke of “trade-offs” existing in criminal law which do not exist in international law.

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