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Geant 4 collaboration workshop Nov 8th 2005 Bordeaux, France Validation Activities at SLAC Validation Activities Validation Activities at SLAC at SLAC Koi, Tatsumi Koi, Tatsumi SLAC / SCCS SLAC / SCCS

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Validation Activities at SLAC

Validation Activities Validation Activities at SLACat SLAC

Koi, TatsumiKoi, TatsumiSLAC / SCCSSLAC / SCCS

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Overview• Current and past Validation efforts

– EM Physics• Multiple Coulomb Scattering• Others

– Hadron Physics• pp interactions• nucleus-nucleus interactions

– Medical related validations– Interfacing related validations

• Testing tool for Confidence Level of Monte Carlo results• GRID related activities• Summary I have almost 50 slides for this 15min

talks,

Any questions are welcome,

but please ask me after the session.

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Multiple scattering widthsGeant4 v7.1.ref04

Same plots are available since the version 4.2.p02http://www.slac.stanford.edu/~tkoi/G4MCStest.html

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Time profile since Geant4 v4.0p02

Result of Geant4 v7.1.ref04(Differences between Standard EM and Low Energy EM representsan uncertainty of this test, because they use the same multiple scattering model.)

In future we also use TestEM5 for STDEM

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Fluctuation of Energy Loss in Thin layers.Argon gas thickness of 2mmelectron 235keV (γ=1.5)

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Sampling CalorimeterPb+Scinti X 120 LayersBlue 7.1 + new MCS Tags

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Hadron interaction validation

http://www.slac.stanford.edu/~tkoi/G4HadInt.html

• For all major hadronic physics lists (Ex LHEP, QGSP, FTFP etc)– Gamma, Pion, and Kaon production spectra

– Mean multiplicity distributions

– Charged multiplicity distributions

– Multi Layer Faraday Cup comparisons

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Validation of LC Physics Lists which SLAC provided

Geant4 v7.0.p01

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Geant4 v7.1.p01QGSP Hadronic List PACK 2.5

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QGSP

FTFP

Geant4 v7.1.p01Hadronic List PACK 2.5

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Multi Layers Faraday Cups~160MeV protons

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EM Physics Validation

Nuclear interactions of 160 MeV protons stopping in copper: A test of Monte Carlo nuclear modelsBernard Gottschalk, Rachel Platais, and HaraldPaganettipp. 2597-2601 Med. Phys 26-12 (1999)

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Ion interaction validationhttp://www.slac.stanford.edu/~tkoi/G4IonInteraction.h

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• Neutron double differential production cross sections

• Pion double differential production cross sections

• Neutron Yield from Thick Target

• Fragment particle production cross sections

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Neutron Production 400 MeV/n Carbon on Copper

Pion Production

1 GeV/c/n Carbon on Be, C, Cu and Pn

Geant4 6.2.p02Binary Cascade Light Ions

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Distribution of RsCarbon Beams

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Iwata et al.,Phys. Rev. C64pp. 05460901(2001)

R = (σcalculate-σ measure )/σ measure

Overestimate

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Distribution of RsNeon Beams

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Distribution of RsArgon Beams

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Neutron YieldArgon 400 MeV/n beams

Carbon Thick Target Aluminium Thick Target

T. Kurosawa et al., Phys. Rev. C62pp. 04461501 (2000)

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Neutron YieldArgon 400 MeV/n beams

Copper Thick Target Lead Thick Target

T. Kurosawa et al., Phys. Rev. C62pp. 04461501 (2000)

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Neutron YieldFe 400 MeV/n beams

CarbonThick Target Aluminum Thick Target

T. Kurosawa et al., Phys. Rev. C62pp. 04461501 (2000)

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Neutron YieldFe 400 MeV/n beams

Copper Thick Target Lead Thick Target

T. Kurosawa et al., Phys. Rev. C62pp. 04461501 (2000)

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Fragmented Particles Productions

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Fragmented Particles Productions

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Medical use case validationhttp://www.slac.stanford.edu/~tkoi/G4Medical.html

• “Questions for comparison of clinical Monte Carlo codes”

(D. W. O. Roger, Author of EGS-NRC)– Speed test

– Accuracy test for 18MV photon beam

– Accuracy test for 20MeV electron beam

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Standard EM (ExN03PhysicsList)

We also testsLow energy EM (DMXPhysicsList)

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Testing Architecture

• Linux– Redhat Linux 7.2(Quit)– Enterprise Linux 3.0

• Compiler and libraries– GCC 2.95.3 and glibc-2.2.4 (RH7.2)(Quit)

– GCC 3.2.3, glibc-2.3.2 (EL3.0)

– JRE1.4.2

• Implementation of AIDA – JAIDA

• JAVA implementation

– AIDAJNI• AIDA C++-->Java adapter

• Analysis Sytem– JAS3

• Fitter– Uncimin– Minuit

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These validations are carried out for each release of

Geant4. (Some of them are done for

each reference tag.)

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Evidence of Genat4 improvement!

Bug fix of Parameterization Materials

Geant4 version 6.2.p02

Geant4 version 6.2.p01

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We also do some performance comparisons

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Comparison of Computing Speed and Memory consume among deferent implementation of Voxelized

Geometries.

Geometry: Phantom 30x30x30 cubic cm.Fill this Phantom by 216k voxels which have size of 0.5x0.5x0.5 cubic cm.Incidence particle: 50MeV electronVertical incidence to a surface of PhantomUniform incidence to the surface.

Pattern of Phantom configurations1, All voxels are place by G4Placement.2, Configured a rod from voxels and placed these rods.3, Configured a disk from rods and placed these disks.4, Using G4VPVParameterisationResults

• Memory consume1、47830k2、 572k3、 2k4、42250k with kUndefined

4k with kXAxis

• Computing Speed100k electrons incidence1、 433.99sec2、 410.69sec3、 427.97sec4、 446.85sec with kUndefined

44685 sec with kXAxis estimated from 1k electrons (almost 100 times difference with optimization option)

• If we changed the incidence surface of Phantom, there is no change in the results.

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We have also activities of interfacing to the reaction

codes from Geant4.

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Validation of Interfaced reaction codes JAM

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Of course,there are quite many

validation activities and plots those are strongly connected to the major

projects of SLAC (Barbar, GLAST, LC, ,,,).

Because of limitation of time (both presentation and preparation),I should concentrate topics in which

general users are interested.

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Testing tool for Confidence Level of Monte Carlo

results

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Contents• Motivation• Precision and Accuracy• Central Limit Theorem• Testing Method• Current Status of Development• Summary

I most like have not any time for these slides.

If you have interests, please contact me later.

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True Value Mote Carlo Results

AccuracyPrecision

Precision and Accuracy• Precision: Uncertainty caused by statistical fluctuations

• Accuracy: Difference between expected value and true physical quantity.

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This is not a simple static calculation of results

butchecking of the results from nature of

Monte Carlo simulations.Checking the complete sampling of

interested phase spaces has occurred or not.

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Current Status of Development

• Most part of developments has been done.

• Following items are remained under development.– Output of testing result– Class or function for minimization of multi dimensional functions

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We want to include this tool in Geant4but

what category is suite for this tool?

Run, SD, Hits and its collections, Tally??

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Summary• We have successfully developed a general assistant tool for the checking the results from Monte Carlo simulations like MCNPs.

• Through this tool, users easily know the confidence intervals of their Monte Carlo results.

I most like have not any time for these slides.

If you have interests, please contact me later.

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Grid related Geant4 activities at SLAC

I am not GRID expert at all.Most questions you might ask me,I do not understand what you are asking.Please have direct contact to Wilko Kroeger.

[email protected]

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the Open Science Grid (OSG)

• US grid computing infrastructure

• Consortium of US University and NationalLaboratories (SLAC, Fermilab, BNL, …. )

• Driven by LHC

• Physics, Astrophysics, Biology and otherProjects use the OSG

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Status of OSG sites

Total CPU number of OSG is10~15k.

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Geant4 Validation and OSG

• Validate each new Geant4 releases. • Physics validation (e.g.: elm and had showers) is very computing intense in some cases.

• Using a Grid is a natural place to run these jobs.

• Validation with LCG has been successfully done. Now try to use OSG.

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Geant4 Validation and OSG (Cont.)

• Follow ideas from Geant4 and LCG.• Able to run Geant4 on OSG.• Develop tools to install Geant4 release at OSG sites.

• Tools to manage many jobs, retrieve and compare results is also development item.

• Work closely other Geant4 grid efforts.– We are relatively new comer for this field.

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First results of our Grid related activity

will be presented by Wilko Kroeger

in the Super Computing 2005 (Nov 12-18 Seattle, WA USA)at SLAC/Fermi lab exhibitions."Geant4 validation using the

Open Science Grid.“

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Summary• Many validation plots are produced for each Geannt4 release. You can get progresses of Geant4 through these plots.

• Thanks to the good users inside and outside of SLAC, we can achieves fruitful validations of Geant4.

• Thanks to the developers of Geant4, these validation plots have been effected improvement of Geant4.

• We have successfully developed a general assistant tool for the checking the results from Monte Carlo simulations like MCNPs.

• We just begin to use GRID for Geant4 validation works and we will continues to investigations. And collaborations with other Geant4 GRID efforts are most desirable.

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