VA-Vol-1-No-10-Sept-1973

IN THE MIDDLE OF IT ALL

By E E Buck Hilbert President EAA Antique-Classic Division

These past several weeks have been the busiest I can remember Also the most fulfilling Oshkosh my first experience at being on the inside looking out all but drained me of incenshytive and ambition It was a lot of work It also was a revelation I have never been so busy nor met so many people I was so enamored and enmeshed with people I hardly had time to look at the airplanes It was the greatest experience Ive ever had

After Oshkosh the family and I drove through the Ozarks and eventually wound up down Tulsa way More people and an airpla1le I have been waiting for my Aeronca C-3 Collegishyate that Ive had around as a project fo1 the past seven years Its laughable now but when I got home from OSH there was a letter here with pictures of that C-3 flying What better reason to DRIVE to Oklahoma

The Antique Airplane Association annual bash was next and again I was completely subshymerged in people and airplanes This time though just enjoying the good fellowship and the airplanes I was there as a private citizen and enjoyed myself tremendously Our Oshkosh Grand Champion Antique the OrmandlBrouseBoren Alexander Eaglerock was also awardshyed the Grand Champ Trophy at the AAA meet It is a good thing those guys brought a chase plane along - to carryall that silverware back to Texas

Our membership list is well on the way to a thousand numbers I expect this to increase accordingly over the next year This will be a big year andmiddot much will be accomplished I exshypect to see more cooperation with the other Divisions of EAA with jointly conducted fly-ins guest editorials and the like and well all grow because of it

Our facilities at Oshkosh will be improved and well centralize our area and activities there in our own building Plans are also to use Ollies Woods to better advantage for a coushyple days next year The forums will be enlarged in scope so that all the type clubs can particshyipate and the antiquers too I would also like to see a designee program among the Antique and Classic group Its getting to the point where there are very few stick and rag men left Maybe we can utilize their talents to teach us how to keep these old airplanes alive

Most of all though I want to thank each and every member for their patience and undershystanding and their help through the past few weeks Just keep on being yourselves and sharshying the enjoyment of your airplanes with all of us Sell aviation everywhere you go Lets make this thing grow together

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VOLUME 1 - NUMBER 10 SEPTEMBER 1973

TABLE OF CONTENTS Classic Grand Champion Bill Hodges 4 Oshkosh Fly-In Coverage - Continued 6 Crosley Moonbeams John Carter 10 Staggerwing Fly-In 12 Aeronca See What Buck Hilbert 14 Around the AntiqueClassic World 18

ON THE COVER Doug Moores Classic Grand Champion Aeronca Champ

Photo by Lee Fray

BACK COVER Cabin of Dr Ed Garber s Stinson Jr S

Photo by Ted Kosto n

HOW TO JOIN THE ANTIQUE-CLASSIC DIVISION Membership in the EAA Antique-Classic Division is open to all EAA members who have a special

interest in the older aircraft that are a proud part of our a viation heritage Membership in the AntiqueshyClassic Division is $1000 per year which entitles one to 12 issues of The Vintage Airplane published monthly at EAA Headquarters Each member will also receive a special Antique-Classic membership card plus one additional card for ones spouse or other designated family member

Membership in EAA is $1500 per year which includes 12 issues of SPORT AVIATION All memshygership correspondence should be addressed to EAA Box 229 Hales Corners Wisconsin 53130

EDITORIAL STAFF Publisher shy Pau l H Poberezny Assistant Ed itor shy Gene Chase

Ed itor shy Jack Cox Assistant Editor - Golda Cox

ANTIQUE AND CLASSIC DIVISION OFFICERS

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Copyright copy 1973 Antique Classic Aircraft Inc All Rights Reserved

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GRAND CHA PIO

By Bill Hodges

What Whats that you say A Champ An Aeronca Champ The Grand Champion Classic Well it must be something pretty special

Doug and Lois Moore of Orangeville Ontario Canashyda think so and so did the Classic Judges at the EAAs 1973 21st Annual Convention held at Oshkosh Wisconshysin To be picked number one out of 406 classics attendshying well that is something pretty special

CF-JUU started out life as a 1946 7 AC Serial N umshyber 5466 but was later converted to 7CCM standards Continental C-90-12 on a short engine mount removal of the nose fuel tank and installation of two 13 gallon wing fuel tanks No-Bounce landing gear and the addition of the larger dorsal fin

Doug and Lois bought their red and black beauty three years ago for $100000 from a friend Harry Fletcher The plane was flyable but they felt it needed to be restored to better condition Another friend Max Say helped them with the restoration which took about two and one half years

Doug was bitten by the flying bug at the age of 4 when he attended an air show in Minot North Dakota just across the border from his home town of Gainsboro Saskatchewan Canada Doug learned to fly in 1949 on Champs Taylorcraft BD-12Ds and a Stinson 105 in Winnipeg Manitoba

Doug went on to instruct on DeHavilland DH-82C Tiger Moths for the Brandon Flying Club in Brandon Manitoba He also flew Champs on power line patrol and it was for this reason that he chose a Champ for his personal plane In 1952 Doug went to work flying for Air Canada and today he is a Captain on their Lockshyheed L-1011 TriStar Louis Dougs wife is a stewardess with Air Canada

Doug EAA 49700 along with Lois is a staunch EAA supporter and is currently building a Pitts Special He is lAC member number 679 and Antique-Classic member number 234 Our heartiest congratulations to Doug and Lois on their 1973 Grand Champion Classic

AERONCA 7CCM CHAMPION SPECIFICATIONS

Engine Continental C-90-8FJ Wing Span 35 ft 2 in Length 21 ft 6 in Height 7 ft 0 in Weight (empty) 890 Ibs Weight (gross) 1450 Ibs Fuel Capacity 185 gals Maximum Speed 105 mph Cruise Speed 95 mph Stall Speed 40 mph Rate of Climb 900 ft per min Range 351 Statute Miles Price FAF $254500

(Photo by Jack Cox) Doug Moore of Orangeville Ontario and his 1946 Aeronshyca Champion an appropriate name since the beautishyful machine was voted the 1973 Classic Grand Champion at Oshkosh

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CLASSIC (Photo by Jack Cox)

CF-JUU started life as a 1946 Aeronca 7AC Champion but since has been updated to a 7CCM with the instalshylation of a Continental C-90 dorsal fin 13 gallon wing tanks and a lush interior The ai rcraft is all red w ith a black stripe The finish is tremendous a beautiful airplane by any standard

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bull bull

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(Ted Kaston Photo)

Three Cessna UC-78s were on t he show line at Oshkosh This one is N-51760 owned by J R Boyer of Lebanon New Jersey Everyone knows the UC-78 was popularly known as the Bamboo Bomber - how many of yo u remember another of its nicknames Jane Russell J-3

(Jack Scholler Photo)

Want to learn how to weld up that fuselage - Oshkosh is the place Cutting fitting and welding of steel tube went on all day every day in the Welding Workshop

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(Ted Kaston Photo)

Teenager Mike Murphy of Oak Lawn Illinois had th is full scale replica of a 1912 Bellanca on display in a notshyquite-complete condition It is now flying and appeared at the Joliet III inois Air Show recently Power is from an engine you don t see often today a Continental A-50

(Dick Stouffer Photo)

One of the big attractions at Oshkosh is the workshop program Almost all the major companies involved with aircraft fabric covering are on hand to demonstrate and teach the use of their products - cotton and the synshythetics This is a Monocoupe 90A wing - illustrating the point that these Skills are required for homebuilders and vintage aircraft enthusiasts alike

(Ted Koston Photo) Best Classic Stinson - Ellis Clark s Nshy9562K from Caton Rapids Michigan

(Ted Koston Photo)

The 330 hp Jacobs F series Staggerwing is being reshystored today as never before This fine example was flown in by M Meltzer and J Fuller of Cleveland Heights Ohio

(Ted Koston Photo)

Best Luscombe Series II owned by Joseph Johnson of Bedford Texas

(Ted Koston Pho to)

Best World War II Era Open Cockpit - owned by Dr Tom Ehlers of St Charles Missouri

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(Photo by Lee Fray)

The Most Unusual Antique trophy went to Bob Burge of Sylvania Ohio for his Henderson powered Heath Parasol


World War II Era Category Champion a beautiful OeshyHavilland Tiger Moth (NC-390H) flown to Oshkosh by J P Jordan and K G Hofschneider of Clark N J

(Ted Koston Photo)

Special Classic Award - Anderson Greenwood AG-14 N-3903K owned by Mississippi State University and flown in by Howard Ebersole of the Raspet Flight Censhyter there This machine has been used for various exshyperimental purposes including ducted props but is now again in a stock configuration


Roy Jensen of Las Vegas Nevadshya zooms out in his Cessna 170

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(Ted Koston Pho to) (Dick Stouffer Photo) Best Silver Age Monoplane Dr Ed Garbers Stinshy Arch Young of N Redington Beach Florida son Jr S - from Fayetteville North Carolina about to pour the coal to his E-75 Stearman

(Oshkosh Daily Northwestern Photo)

Some of the old airplanes are still earning their way Walt and Sandi Pierce are regulars on the evening air show programs in (and in Sandi s case ON) their highly modified Stearman

(Ted Koston Photo)

Going to Oshkosh means getting a chance to see the resident antique champion of champions Dave Jameshyson s reincarnation of Wiley Posts Winnie Mae Obvishyously aware a camera is pointed at them are Morton Lester left Dave Jameson center and President Buck Hilbert

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THE CROSLEY MOONBEAMS By John Carter (EAA 41061 AIC 180)

1403 2nd Ave East Bradenton Florida 33505

(Photos Courtesy of the Author)

CROSLEY MAKES PLANES - FIRST OF TWO SHIPS FINISHED RADIO PRODUCER REVEALS FACshyTORY SITE IS SOUGHT shy

Moonbeam To Be Given Test Flight Tuesday At Lunken

Rumors that Powell Crosley Jr president of the Crosley Radio Corporation has entered the aircraft inshydustry were confirmed Monday when he announced comshyplete details of two airplanes one of which is already completed

The first plane is a monoplane with a 40 foot wingshyspread powered by a Warner Scarab 110 horsepower motor It is an open plane 25 feet 9 inches long for two passengers and pilot The plane will be test flown Tuesday at Lunken Airport at 4 PM It will then be christened the Moonbeam

Alfred Marks real estate dealer and aviation enthusishyast is interested with Crosley in the new venture

A cabin monoplane for four persons including the pilot will be completed within a month Crosley said Both ships will have dual controls

Built in Northside

At present the planes are being constructed in a buildshying at Blue Rock and Turrell Streets The first plane was assembled in the Metal Aircraft Factory at Lunken Airshyport

The designer of the Crosley plane is Professor Edward middot A Stalker head of the aeronautical department at the University of Michigan Hurbert P Junkin is in charge of manufacturing the planes

Crosley said several factory sites are being considered as a location for building his planes Construction of a plant will start in several weeks Production later will be started on the cabin and open monoplanes Crosley said that the open monoplane will sell for about $5500

The aircraft venture is one of mine personally and primarily Crosley said The Crosley Radio Corporation will not be connected with it he stated

Wing Structure Different

An engineering department may be established in connection with the new factory for development of airshyplane motors The wing construction of the Crosley plane is different from that of most planes Marks said The leading edge of the wing will be metal the center section plywood and the trailing edge of fabric The ship will be of the overhead or parasol wing design Most of the skeleshyton construction will be of metal

The cabin monoplane will be powered by the Wright J-6 motor

The plane will not embody any radical changes of conshystruction but will be the best in design of this type of ship Crosley said he believed

Crosley said a smaller ship might be designed for largshyer production later He said the company would attempt to produce a quantity of modern type planes

The name Moonbeam was suggested by Mrs T Higbee Embry

The above is copied from a column which appeared in a Cincinnati paper in the spring of 1929

These dreams of prosperity were short lived and no production was undertaken

Here is what I know about these fine birds The parasol was first flown on April 29 1929 It was

flown for quite some time during the early 1930s and has disappeared It is known that it was at the 1929 Cleveshyland Air Races

The second ship was the cabin It was flown for the first time on August 9 1929 As an economy measure the cabin was fitted with duplicate wings tail unit landing gear and engine mount as fitted to the parasol Very little

is known of its history other than it was a nice flying ship and that it was flown in the 1930 Ohio Air Tour

In late 1928 Harold D Hoekstra was hired as a deshysign specialist The other two Crosley designs are to his credit also

The next aircraft was a small tandem open biplane two of which were built This is the design I am most familiar with

The biplanes are comparable in size to the Waco RNF The unique features of the sister ships are the square tube longerons and corrugated aluminum ailerons Power was supplied by a four cylinder inline inverted 90 hp unit of Crosley design At one time the second biplane was tested with the 110 Warner Scarab If this was only a ground test or if flying was included I have no knowledge to clarify one way or the other I will appreciate any help any reader can give on this matter

The fifth and last aircraft was a single place high wing similar to the Aeronca K in size It was powered by an ABC Scorpion of 38 hp Very little is known of this ship other than its overhead stick control which operated in the conventional manner I do have a copy of a letter conshycerning the ship which I will reproduce later

Of the two biplanes there is only the second with a known history

Only the first flight of the first is known It took place in the fall of 1929 The exact date is not known to me The second aircraft was flown on December 8 of the same year

In May 1930 tests with spoilers as lateral control deshyvices were conducted using NX-147N They also proved effective in recovering from six turn spins One of the early pilots privileged to fly this aircraft was Clarence Chamberlin He put the ship through an excellent aeroshybatic display for the enjoyment of the Crosley workers

From the time it was finished with its test period until she came to Kentucky there is a blank spot where no records were obtainable

The Moonbeam was owned by John Richardson of Nicholasville Kentucky from October 1939 until October 1958 The aircraft was flown by Mr Richardson until 12-7 -41 At this time the engine was removed and the ship placed in storage for The Duration The duration lasted until the ship was purchased by James Goodrich of Frankfort Kentucky in 1958 Jim flew the Moonshybeam until it was purchased by David M Trapp of Lexshyington Kentucky on April 4 1965

Jim placed approximately 200 hours on the airframe the first 75 being with the Crosley engine A Menasco Super Pirate is the replacement

In his correspondence with me Jim mentioned the oleo gear made landings a dream The Waco type brake where the throttle was pulled toward the center of the cockpit making the rudder pedals become the braking surfaces was simple to learn Jim changed the mechanishycal mechanism to hydraulic using PT-19 hub and exshypander tubes with Scott (Piper) units

David Trapp purchased the ship after a run-in with a Bensen Dave completely rebuilt the ship and placed

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several enjoyable hours on the little biplane The highshylight of this period came in 1968 when Harold Hoekstra had the opportunity to fly in an open cockpit once more

The Moonbeams next owner was Ernest H Moser of St Augustine Florida Very little time was placed on the ship for the next two years

David D Allyn of Sarasota caught Ernie in a low moshyment and purchased the aircraft in April 1972 to be part of his proposed museum These plans fell through Howshyever since all of the museum equipment is paid for everYthing went with Dave when he moved to Santa Fe in June

I was the historian A letter seeking background mashyterial of our aircraft appeared in the March 1973 SPORT AVIATION

I have not heard from Dave since the move so I canshynot state that he is still the ships owner

As mentioned above the only item I have on the fifth aircraft is a copy of a letter which I shall reproduce at this point The copy was received from Harold D Hoekshystra who also designed the biplane

Mr Lew Townsend Executive Editor AOPA P O Box 5800 Washington D C 20014 Dear Mr Townsend

Pete Bowers always interesting articles this time on confusing Control systems (Pilot Feb 73) reminded me of another example

Early in 1930 near Cincinnati Ohio sometime after we completed the Crosley Moonbeam biplane and other aircraft our boss Powell Crosley Jr the radio man reshyquested that we produce a minimum cost single place airshyplane This we did in 35 days from request to first flight including structual analysis perhaps a worlds record It was a high wing strut-braced monoplane with a 38 hp ABC Scorpion engine The wings could be folded - volunshytary that is - and with hand holds at the tips the aircraft could be wheel barrowed into a garage size shelter

For simplicity I designed an overhead stick control which did not require disconnecting the aileron control when folding wings The hand hold was in the usual posishytion the motion was conventional the stick was merely hinged at the ceiling instead of the floor Overhead wheel controls had been used particularly in flying boats but this might have been the first overhead stick Soon after our first flight Crosley brought out B illy Brock a 1927 trans-Atlantic flyer to wring it out Soon after take off the left wing dropped a little then a lot almost scraping the ground The airplane then straightened up and all went smoothly the rest of the test

To me the interesting point is despite all of Brocks experience and skill the stick hanging down became a visual image of a lever momentarily overpowering his normal flight reactions

Just an early example of design-induced pilot error Sincerely Harold Hoekstra Consultant

It is known that two of the Crosleys were destroyed by fire Two have disappeared and the disposition of the fifth ship is unknown to me

Question Which aircraft were destroyed Where are the remaining two Unless sold recently NX-147N the only remaining Moonbeam is in Santa Fe Are two hidden in barns or were they destroyed also

Any and all help in concerning the disposition of the unknowns will be greatly appreciated

Does anyone have spare photos of the parasol cabin the biplanes and the high wing I could borrow or locate for my file on Crosley

THE CROSLEY MOONBEAMS

Serial Registered Type First Flight 1 X-642E Parasol 3 pl ld 4-29-29 2 X-10M Cabin 4 pl ld 8-9-29 3 X-146N Biplane 2 pl It --29 4 X-147N Bi plane 2 pl It 12-8-29 5 X-9679 High Wing 1 pl ld 5-28-30

Serials 1 and 2 had the same wing landing gear tail unit engine mount and various components that were interchangeable

Serials 3 and 4 were sister ships

The Crosley biplane with the inverted 4 cylinder 90 hp Crosley engine Test pilot Russ Wiesta is in the rear cockshypit and designer Harold Hoekstra is in front Note the gosport helmet being worn by Hoekstra

The third Crosley aircraft a small biplane The plane was normally equipped with an inverted 4 cylinder enshygine of Crosley design Here the biplane is fitted with a 110 Warner Herb Junkin Shop Superintendent is in the cockpit and Harold D Hoekstra the designer stands alongside

The first Crosley Moonbeam a parasol with a 110 hp Warner It is shown here with Jiggs Huffman in the cockshypit The airplane appeared at the 1929 Cleveland Air Races

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STAGGERWING FLY-IN

(Ted Ka ston Pho to) Better late than never we present some shots of the

annual Staggerwing Fly-In held at Tullahoma Tennessee over the storm ravaged Memorial Day weekend this past May

Hosted by John Parish and Staggerwing Club Presishydent Dub Yarbrough the weekend started offin great form - 24 of Beechs finest flew in and everyone had a great time attending panel discussions on the care and feeding of Staggerwings buddy riding and as always at such afshyfairs lots of just plain visiting with aviation friends one gets to see only two or three times a year

On Saturday evening a banjo pickin hoedown and cocktail party gave flat-landers a chance to see - and experience - how the folks down home get their enjoys This was followed by steaks and the very special speaker of the evening Louise Thaden

It was Louise and her co-pilot Blanche Noyes who flew a Staggerwing to its pinnacle of success - Floyd Bennett Field in New York City to Los Angeles Mines Field in 14 hours 55 minutes and 1 second to win the 1936 Bendix Transcontinental Speed Dash Needshyless to say her remarks were received with rapt attention and rewarded by a standing ovation at the conclusion Earlier in the day Louise had arrived in Nashville by air lines and was met by Dub Yarbrough They headed for Tullahoma in Big Red and were joined by four other Staggerwings who escorted them in a grand entrance for a great lady

Sunday was a rude awakening for most of the pilots a phone call at 500 AM to warn of the approach of severe weather and a suggestion that they hot-foot it to the airport to get their birds in a hangar Most had done so by the time the storms hit and no damage was susshytained during the day-long deluge - 6 inches in 3 hours

Dub Yarbrough Lannon Mfg Co Box 500 Tullashyhoma Tennessee 37388 was re-elected Club President and the 1974 Staggerwing Fly-In will be held June 13-16 at Tullahoma

Our thanks to Charlie Morman of Atlanta for sending along photos of the Staggerwing Fly-In

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Possibly the most famous of the present day fleet of Staggerwings Big Red owned by John Parish of Tulshylahoma

(Charlie Morman Photo)

Bill Schultz of Madison North Carolina is proud of his Staggerwing - and wants the world to know it


Notice the wingwalkers and the message painted on the taxiway


A Lear and a T-6 want to get in on the fun


STAGGERWINGS


Louise Thaden winner of the 1936 Bendix Left Dub Yarbrough and right George York

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AERONCA SEE WHAT

By E E Buck Hilbert

The story begins with a kid working at the local airshyport way back in 1940 I saw one then when I was a line boy at the old Elmhurst Airport outside Chicago It was an Aeronca C-3 Collegiate transient on the way through to Michigan and someplace with about the sportiest lookin guy you ever did see flyin it I think the clothes make the man and this was really a sporty guy - dapper little mustache pulling on a pipe golf knickers and real sporty two-tone shoes The airplane didnt create as much attention as he did for most but I was more interested in the airplane

A classic study in ugliness so ugly it was beautiful I just couldnt get over it All the wires and pot belly a two cylinder engine to drag it a long - why the simplicity of its construction made it look as though anyone could fly it Maybe even I could fly it I was completely enshyamored by this seemingly simple little bug The VW of airplanes in its day

More than thirty years would pass before I would actually fly one and then it aint as easy to fly as one would suspect but thats getting ahead of the story

Serious efforts to find a C-3 began about nine years ago Erv Eshelman was president of the Aeronca Club at that time I began searching the records asking quesshytions writing letters and looking everywhere to no avail George York was elected club president a couple years later and it was he who came up with a list of Aeroncas owners and the present status of the machines I guess I wrote twenty letters and made thirty phone calls and then one turned up almost in my back yard Gene Ba3tian at Hinkley Illinois had a project razorback he hadnt touched since hed started on his Volmer Amphibian

He didnt want to part with it but I cajoled and bugged the poor guy til he finally consented to sell it to me just to get me out of his hair After Id made the deal I got my first good look at the mess Id acquired

About the time I was deepest in thoughts as to why I ever wanted something like this Gene said dont forget the engine its under the work bench there in that basket It was too all disassembled and a REAL basket case I piled all the loose stuff in the truck pulled the fuselage up on the trailer and tied what was left of the wings on the roof of the carry-all and home we went through a driving snow storm I was really worried the moisture from the snow would hurt my wings cause they were unshycovered I need not have been the least concerned shythey werent worth repairing but I had hopes anyway

Once home with the pieces the time had come for a complete inventory of what I had and didnt have The fuselage was relatively complete standing on the gear with tires and skid intact One of the previous owners Mr Bill Rasor Garden City Michigan had done pretty well on this It was covered with linen and painted through white with red trim There were floorboards seats inshystruments controls and gas tank installed and it looked real good The engine was another matter It was all there but subsequent miking and probing turned up two usable cylinders with pistons and rings - the rest worn beyond recall

The wings now were a different matter I discovered later through correspondence with the man who resurshyrected the machine that they had been in a chicken house for fifteen years or more with the chickens roosting on them Now you take a little chicken dirt and rub it into

the aluminum alloy of forty years ago and presto just a fine powdery substance instead of fittings The ailerons were the same way I opened one up and the inside was so corroded as to be unusable

The old fiber gussets used to construct the ribs had lost all intent of purpose and the ribs were mostly ready to fall apart at first touch The Casein glue had long passed its useful life I looked at those bird dirtied-rusted drag and antidrag piano wires the corroded fittings and I was overwhelmed I knew Id have to have new or difshyferent wings and so started a long long search

I went backwards I called Gene Bastian and asked if he could supply a lead for wings He referred me to Bill Rasor Bill referred me to Les Steen in Okemos Michigan Nothin I started on George York from there to Erv Eshelman that led me to Tom Trainor of Royal Oak Michigan who referred me to Joel Qualls in Phoenix Joel was a tremendous source of information and help but still no wings Finally Bob Rust of Fayetteville Georgia came into the picture and he referred me to Dr Ed Garber of Fayetteville N C who had recently purchased a set of wings from him and well pause here for a li ttle side story

There was much correspondence going on at this point No I am not married to a suspicious woman but while I was away on a two day trip this letter shows up with Dr E C Garber and Associates Obstetrics and Gynecology as the return address on it I wont say there was tension in the air when I came home because you know darned well there was Try explaining to your wife some time how come you got a letter from a Gynecologist without diggin yourself into a real hole I finally figured a way out I confessed that we were collaborating on the birth of an airplane and trying to figger out a way of artificial i nshysemination That didnt get a laugh then either

Well Dr Garber had had the misfortune to have his C-3 clobbered in a forced landing and had purchased a set of wings probably the only set in the USA from Bob Rust He had a left wing intact with a suspected crack in the front spar and many pieces of right wing and some odd wires and stuff Frank Lang and I drove down and picked up all the leftovers he had including the set of ailerons that are on the airplane today This was a wonshyderful trip On one side swing to Wings and Wheels in Santee S C we met Jack and Golda Cox and began a friendship that I hope continues on for many many more years

One humorous incident took place during this trip Heavily loaded with parts inside and two wings wires and some spars lashed to the roof of the carry-all we were finally homeward bound Way up ahead on the Inshyterstate we could see what looked like an airplane going backwards behind a station wagon We speeded up and eventually caught the guy He had the fuselage of a Cessshyna 150 minus firewall forward wings and tail feathers jammed into the rear of his station wagon We flagged him down

While in the process of having a very animated airshyplane conversation with this fella up charges a breathshyless Virginia State Trooper who excitedly wanted to know if anyone was hurt in the airplane accident We dutifully maintained a straight face while we explained to him that these were just pieces and a collection of parts and not a real airplane that had crashed into my carry-all and this fellas wagon Much relieved to know this he then proshy

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ceeded tell us to move it along cause we were causing a back-up It was true There were motOrIsts creeping by at five miles per hour ogling the wreckage of the airplane crash Frank and I stIll talk about thIS one and the fuss we created

Back home we discovered the fracture of the front spar was for real and that the wing although in near peshyfect condition would be good as a pattern only ThIS wing served us well over the next couple years It w~s the pattern for several wings manufactured dUrIng thIS time and had we not had it available for reference I doubt that the wing drawings would have been sufficient to really visualize how to do it Its still intact by the way and available for reference if the need be

The search hadnt ended yet however and I made the acquaintance of several more interesting people in the next few months Del Denly of Osceola Iowa had a C-3 (later sold) and through him I met Larry Farnham of the GADO at Des Moines Iowa One of them referred me to Norm Raby up in Washington state and he too had much helpful information but still no wings I was resigned to the fact now that Id have to build them when the heavens opened and sent me David Warren of Collinsville Oklahoma

Someone had told me about David I dont know who and it was then that I called him Sure he said hed build me the wings So about three days later Curt Tayshylor and I rolled into his backyard at Airman Acres with all the C-3 wing stuff I had on hand the complete patshytern wing the two original junk wings several extra spars hardware turnbuckles piano wires and wing drawings David gave us the twenty-five cent tour of Airman Acres and after John De Marie gave us a Bonanza flying tour of the Tulsa area we left for home secure in the knowledge that the wings were at last in sight Little did we know itd be almost four years before we would see the finished product

Theres one thing rve found out about a good deal or a good person - everyone wants in on the deal Well David is one of the nicest guys youd ever meet and hell help anyone anytime anywhere But thats the problem - there is always someone needing help and there is only one David Warren and there just isnt enough of him to help everybody with everything all at once You gotta wait your turn - and its a long line to wait out

(Lee Fray Photo)

Just like a great big free flight model airplane

(Lee Fray Photo) Pugnacious toy bulldog looks like its smelling something unpleasant Whatever your description of the little Aeronca C-3 its still a cute little rascal

The delays werent all his Try finding spar stock I x 6 in 18 foot lengths He finally had to make a scarfing machine and 10 to one splice to get the length Then there was a house to build and furnish and there were innumerable other people who needed help sooner And

(Lee Fray Photo)

PreSident Buck and his new Razorback

of course American Airlines had first call on his labor and this was after all a part time labor of love I bugged him at least once a month for four long years

One day after the EAA Convention last year I got a phone call from David He wanted to do the whole airshyplane I said something to the effect that I did not think I would live long enough to wait for him to do the whole airplane He did not think that was funny One word led

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to a nother I insisted he complete the wings before we discussed the matter further He stated he would not finish the wings unless he could complete the entire air shyplane I told him I was coming down there to get my wings RIGHT NOW After a very pregnant silence on the line he came back with word that he wished I would let him do the whole airplane that he realized how long i t had been and that he felt he owed it to me to get the job done He wanted to do me right

It took me a while to give in but I demanded a firm delivery date a firm price and no nonsense to which he acceded Three or four days later David and a fellow named Don Horst were up here packed the little C-3 on their trail er and were gone I was left with a real sinking feeling and a void in the pit of my stomach I really never expected to live long enough to see that C-3 again but I was wrong Oh he didnt make the firm delivery date or the firm price But there was no nonsense He got right with it and finished it up in time for Blakesburg It took time out for a retirement celebration at American Airshylines and the help of half the Tulsa bunch but that C-3 is settin out there in my hangar right now and Im mighty thankful to a lot of people In that Tulsa bunch were Jesse Criswell Don Horst Milton Silfies Lloyd Durrett Bob Rogan Curtis Corn and David Warren There is some of all these and the others Ive mentioned in this airplane and the a irplane stands there in tribute to what can be done when a dedicated bunch of antiquers really get into the act I thank you one and all gentlemen for one of the most fun airplanes Ive ever had the good fortune to fly

Just another paragraph or two to tell you poor unshyfortunates who dont have a C-3 how much fun it is to fly Ive never been in an ultra-light machine like this before and I had my doubts about that clankety-two banger beshying able to stand the gaff The engine has turned out to be a real jewel and with Dr Kindels Bendix mag conshyversion starts and runs just beautifully It hasnt missed a beat in almost thirty hours now and just purrs right along

Its not the fastest thing in the world but solo it gets right off in about three hundred feet Climb seems best at about forty-five knots indicated and cruise at 2250 rpm gives an honest 57 knots indicated at seven hundred feet above the ground Glide seems real comfortable at 50 indicated and the landings are quite a thrill because even an Aero Commander doesnt sit that close to the ground

Several things strike you about this airplane One is the hands off stability even though there are no trim tabs Its so stable that it takes a real definite hard-over apshyplication of control to make it do something Maybe the aileron gap seals will make a difference but the machine flies hands off and is extremely stable Itll recover from a stall or a spin hands off if you just leave it alone as any old timer will tell you

One very interesting item is this airplanes seeming reluctance to go above seven hundred feet Oh itll go higher but it just doesnt want to I got it a ll the way up to 3500 feet on the way home from Ottumwa Iowa in search of some airliner any airliner I was chuckling with glee in anticipation at the thought of meeting some Airshyline Type and him later trying to explain to someone about meeting this thing that looked like 1927 way up there at 3500 feet Truth is I never saw an airplane all the way home except in the traffic pattern at Stransky Memorial Airport at Savannah Illinois

Stalls are another thing in this machine No warning at all the wing just suddenly drops off to the right side Reshycovery is as quick as the stall add power or just drop the nose and its flying again But do this even six inches off the ground on landing and you dance all the way down the

landing roll from one side to another Ask David Jameshyson - he tried it

Cross country is a real ball I get the feeling that this is the way it should be done - four or five hundred feet above ground at less than sixty knots Plenty of time to look around for a field just in case and secure in the knowledge that it only takes a couple hundred feet to set her down And everyone along the way looks up waves and wishes you well You can just feel the friendliness this airplane generates Maybe a little more of this kind of flying would melt some of the adversity we encounter so often

Its really easy to fly With thirty hours on the tach I can name at least twenty people who have flown it since I got it and none have failed to come back without that cheshire cat-like grin on their pan As one man said This has got to be the most fun flying I have ever done - can I go again

C-3 CHRONOLOGY

NC-13556 Serial Number A290 Built December 18 1934

Acquired February 1968 1968-1969 - Lower rear longerons replaced Tail wheel installed after removal of skid assembly extra rudder hinge and steerable tail wheel rudder horn installed Scott master brake cylinders installed and Cub wheels with brakes installed Wings sent to Oklahoma 1969-1970 - Newly majored engine new propeller new stainless steel firewall Bendix mag conversion and fuel system installed Engine ready to run 1972 - Aircraft shipped to Oklahoma for completion new flying wires windshield new wings installed after complete recover with Stits process using the polyurethane dope July August and S eptember 1973 - Aircraft assembled and finishing touches completed

A partial listing of the people who helped put NCshy13556 back into flying condition

Capt L S Wright Grapevine Texas who rescued it from the chickens

William B Rasor and William F Gollbach who brought it to the mid-west

Gene E Bastian Hinkley Illinois who sold it to me Erv Eshelman Dayton Ohio leads info and enshy

couragement George York Mansfield Ohio leads info and enshy

couragement Les Steen Okemos Michigan drawings and informashy

tion Tom Trainor Royal Oak Michigan engine parts

drawings info and encouragement and further leads Joel Qualls Phoenix Arizona aileron drawings inshy

formation and encouragement John Thurman Phoenix Arizona information and enshy

couragement Bob Rust Fayetteville Georgia information enshy

couragement and leads Dan Rush Washington D C engine parts informashy

tion from the archives of the Smithsonian prints and enshycouragement

Dr Ed C Garber Fayetteville N C wing parts ailerons wires engine parts incentive and information

Ed Sanders Ft Worth Texas wing drawings and enshycouragement

Norm Raby Torrance California information and encouragement

Ewing Cole Montgomery Illinois the urge to kill Larry Farnham FAA Des Moines Iowa information

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(Lee Fray Photo) NC-13556 Serial Number A290 was buil t December 18 1934 It is painted in one of the standard factory color schemes - orange wings horizontal tail su rfaces and fuselage str ipe with a dark green fuselage - so dark it appears black when out of direct sun light It looks great

Del Denly Osceola Iowa information moral supshyport competition etc

Joe Martin Somerset Pennsylvania wheels brakes and a pleasant afternoon reminiscing about the old days

Ed Schubert Janesville Wisconsin President Aeronshyca Club encouragement

Frank Lang Lemont Illinois machine work use of tools throat spray personal attention to detail help and encouragement and for not making a fuss

Curtis L Taylor Union Illinois supervisory services assistance in all manner encouragement and advice

Jim Dees Jim Lacey Don Taylor Dundee Illinois help and encouragement

Don Kintzell McHenry Illinois pictures tips and inshyformation

The Tulsa bunch EAA and FAA archives the Smithshysonian and Aeronca for building the machine back in 1934

And the best family a guy ever had - who had the patience to see it through

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(Photo by Lee Fray) Best Monoplane Golden Age - a Davis V-3 owned by Dick Geist Whitaker Kansas

(Photo by Lee Fray) This is a Hartman-Welch owned by T Johnson of Belshyview Minnesota It won the award for being judged the Best Cabin Pre-World War II Era aircraft

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AROUND THE ANTIQUECLASSIC WORLD I

Bob McDaniels hangar and Waco UPF-7 - which is rarely ever on the ground when he is not off flying 747s for American Bob lives at Naperville Aero Estates which is in western suburban Chicago His home is just beyond the hangar and the paved runway with a fine grass area parallel to it is about where the photographer is standshying to take this picture Talk about having it made

Dear Jack Enclosed is a picture of my hangar and my Waco UPFshy

7 Ifit is good enough I hope you will publish it in the anshytique magazine The Vintage Airplane On the long table in the hangar you can just barely make out the fuselage of my Jenny Actually it is a JN4-C Canadian Jenny comshymonly called a Canuck I hope to have this flying before the local undertaker puts the lily in my hand The hangar is also housing a 1936 Rose Parakeet and the garage to the west of the hangar has a Travel Air 4000 in it So you can see that I am up to my elbows in antique airplanes shyall to be restored

After 34 years flying for American Airlines I will be retiring this coming February and then I can devote all my time to my airplanes I also belong to the Canadian Aviation Historical Society and the American Aviation Historical Society For two terms I was the president of the Illinois Wing of the OX-5 Club of America as well as serving for five years as Director of the Chicago Area Grey Eagles (American Airlines Senior and Retired Pilots)

Sincerely R A Bob McDaniels (EAA 22895-AC 56) 9S 237 Aero Drive Aero Estates Naperville Illinois 60540

OCTOBER 13-14 - TAHLEQUAH OKLAHOMA - 15th Annual TULSA Fly-In to be held this year at Tahlequah Oklahoma (50 Miles ESE of Tulsa) Cookout on Friday night for early arrivals Sponsored by AAA Chapter 2 EAA Chapter 10 and EANIAC Chapter 10 all of Tulsa Contact Doug Philpott (918-936-9418) or Ray Thompson (918-622-3492)

OCTOBER 27 - TULSA OKLAHOMA - Airman Acres Free Fly-In Bean Dinner Dinner served from 1 PM Bring your own bowl spoon coffee cup and appetite Troohy for Champion Beaneater

JUNE 13-16 - TULLAHOMA TENNESSEE - National Staggerwing Club Fly-In Contact W C Dub Yarbrough Lannon Mfg Co Box 500 Tullahoma Tennessee 37388

JUL Y 28 - AUGUST 3 - OSHKOSH WISCONSIN - 22nd Annual EAA International Fly-In Convention Largest and best Antique and Classhysic gathering anywhere Make your plans and reservations early

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Butch Douma s newly rebuilt Ryan ST-3KR (PT-22)

Dear Jack I have recently completed an entire re-build project on

a Ryan ST-3KR (PT-22) N-53998 Serial No 1053 Thought you may be interested

The project was begun in December 1972 and comshypleted and flown on July 28 1973

The aircraft was completely stripped down rebuilt refinished and reassembled We have put her into authenshytic USAAC colors and have all the authentic decals placards etc made up and installed We found the original USAAC field number inside of all the nose cowlings and she bears No 132 again

The Kinner R-56 starts on the first hot throw of the prop however I would like to have an inertia starter for her Any leads on one for a Kinner or a replacement modshyel would be very much appreciated

It has been an interesting and rewarding experience and as you can probably tell Im proud of the old girl in new clothes

We have a couple of hours logged flying her now and a few more wiping oil and polishing aluminum

Sincerely Butch Douma EAA 46656-AC 491 7955 Juniper Road Colorado Springs Colorado 80908

Dear Mr Hilbert I would appreciate your noting that I have acquired

and am rebuilding a Belgian Stampe SV4C and having that noted in your magazine as well as SPORT AVIAshyTION

Along this line anything you have on file on the Stampe SV 4C the Renault 4P05 engine or rebuilders now listed on this aircraft I would appreciate receiving

I am also attempting to start a Stampe Club and any notation of this in your magazines along with my name and address would be appreciated In this way I hope we can exchange information parts etc

Thank you for your assistance Sincerely Carl F Bury 125 Old Orchard Drive Hudson Ohio 44236

Dear Mr Hilbert I would like this opportunity to thank you and your

organization for the plaque my father Avory Gauger reshyceived for The Best Cessna 170 at Oshkosh 1973

We feel very honored and pleased to receive this award Thank you again

Sincerely Bill Gauger (EAA 44511) Phoenix Arizona

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EAA Caps - men and lad ies Specify small med ium large or extra large Ladies one size $225 each

1973 EAA Calenda r Made of heavy unbleached cloth Features full color renditions of a Standard J-1 P-51 Scorpion Helicopte r and a Dyke Delta $230 each

EAA Flight Bags Durable nylon with waterp roof l ining Blue with EAA decal on both sides $450 each

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Wood Vol 1 $200 Wood Vol 2 $250 Sheet Metal Vol 1 $250 Sheet Metal Vol 2 $2 50 Tips on Fat igue $250 Welding $2 00 Dope and Fabric $250 Hand Tools Vol $250 Hand Tools Vol 2 $250 CAM 18 (Reprint) $3 00 CAM 107 (Reprint) $400 Flying and GI ider Manual Reprints

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Golden Age Of Air Racing - 168 pages covering the great 1929-1939 air raci ng era All about the racers and their pilo ts wh o f lew for the Bend ix Thompso n Greve and other t ro ph ies $275

Back Issues of American Airman Wh ile they last - 25c ea

ANTIQUE AND CLASSIC ACHIEVEMENT AWARDS - When you complete the restoration of an anshytique or classic (specify wh ich) you are eligible for a beautiful certificate you will frame and be proud to display in your home or office These certificates are free courtesy of EAA to recogn ize your efforts to save another great old airplane Just send your name and address and the year make and model (i e - 1937 Monocoupe 90A) of your aircraft Solo certificates are also available

JOIN EAA - JOIN THE ANTIQUECLASSIC DIVISION - WRITE FOR INFO PACKET - $100

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VOLUME 1 - NUMBER 10 SEPTEMBER 1973

TABLE OF CONTENTS Classic Grand Champion Bill Hodges 4 Oshkosh Fly-In Coverage - Continued 6 Crosley Moonbeams John Carter 10 Staggerwing Fly-In 12 Aeronca See What Buck Hilbert 14 Around the AntiqueClassic World 18

ON THE COVER Doug Moores Classic Grand Champion Aeronca Champ

Photo by Lee Fray

BACK COVER Cabin of Dr Ed Garber s Stinson Jr S

Photo by Ted Kosto n

HOW TO JOIN THE ANTIQUE-CLASSIC DIVISION Membership in the EAA Antique-Classic Division is open to all EAA members who have a special

interest in the older aircraft that are a proud part of our a viation heritage Membership in the AntiqueshyClassic Division is $1000 per year which entitles one to 12 issues of The Vintage Airplane published monthly at EAA Headquarters Each member will also receive a special Antique-Classic membership card plus one additional card for ones spouse or other designated family member

Membership in EAA is $1500 per year which includes 12 issues of SPORT AVIATION All memshygership correspondence should be addressed to EAA Box 229 Hales Corners Wisconsin 53130

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Ed itor shy Jack Cox Assistant Editor - Golda Cox

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