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U.S. DEPARTMENT OF ENERGY OFFICE OF ENERGY EFFICIENCY
AND RENEWABLE ENERGY
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REGIONAL STANDARDS ENFORCEMENT AND DISCLOSURE FOR FURNACES, CENTRAL AIR
CONDITIONERS, AND HEAT PUMPS
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PUBLIC MEETING
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FRIDAY, DECEMBER 16, 2011
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The meeting convened in Room
8E-089 of the Forrestal Building, 1000
Independence Avenue, S.W., Washington, D.C.,
at 9:00 a.m., Doug Brookman, Facilitator,
presiding.
PRESENT:
DOUG BROOKMAN, Public Solutions, Facilitator
KARIM AMRANE, Air-conditioning, Heating, and
Refrigeration Institute
ASHLEY ARMSTRONG, Department of Energy
DAN ARNOLD, Nordyne, LLC
NICHOLAS ATWOOD, Natural Resources Defense
Council
LAURA BARHYDT, Office of General Counsel,
Department of Energy
WARREN L. BEETON, Emerson Climate
Technologies, Inc.
DONALD BRUNDAGE, Southern Company Services
DAN BUUCK, National Association of Home
Builders
DAVID CALABRESE, Air-conditioning, Heating,
and Refrigeration Institute
NEAL R. GROSS COURT REPORTERS AND TRANSCRIBERS
1323 RHODE ISLAND AVE., N.W.
(202) 234-4433 WASHINGTON, D.C. 20005-3701 www.nealrgross.com
http:www.nealrgross.com
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DAVE CASE, Office of General Counsel,
Department of Energy
ROGER COOPER, Cleveland Park Policy
Consulting, LLC
JOHN CYMBALSKY, Department of Energy
LUCY DeBUTTS, Department of Energy
ANDREW deLASKI, Appliance Standards
Awareness Project
PAUL DOPPEL, Mitsubishi Electric
GARY FERNSTROM, Pacific Gas & Electric
J. KEITH GATES, Cause of Action
TALBOT GEE, Heating, Air-conditioning &
Refrigeration Distributors International
KYLE GILLEY, Lennox International
JEFF HARRIS, Alliance to Save Energy
BRIAN JAMES, Southern California Edison
KATHERINE KENNEDY, Natural Resources Defense
Council
JIM KIBLER, AGL Resources
MATT LATTANZI, Nordyne, LLC
PAUL C. LIN, Regal Beloit
BENJAMIN LONGSTRETH, Natural Resources
Defense Council
JOSEPH MATTINGLY, Air-conditioning, Heating,
and Refrigeration Institute
JOANNA MAUER, Appliance Standards Awareness
Project
MICHAEL McCABE, Department of Energy
CHARLES McCRUDDEN, Air Conditioning
Contractors of America
JONATHAN MELCHI, Heating, Air-conditioning &
Refrigeration Distributors International
KAREN MEYERS, Rheem Manufacturing Company
SOFIE MILLER, Charles Koch Institute
SCOTT MORRISON, American Public Gas
Association
HAMPTON NEWSOME, Federal Trade Commission
ELIZABETH NOLL, American Gas Association
JAY PERKINS, Mitsubishi Electric
STEVE PORTER, Johnstone Supply
DAVID D. RANSOM, McDermott, Will & Emery
HARVEY SACHS, American Council for an
Energy-Efficient Economy
NEAL R. GROSS COURT REPORTERS AND TRANSCRIBERS
1323 RHODE ISLAND AVE., N.W.
(202) 234-4433 WASHINGTON, D.C. 20005-3701 www.nealrgross.com
http:www.nealrgross.com
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DAVE SCHRYVER, American Public Gas
Association
FRANK STANONIK, Air-conditioning, Heating,
and Refrigeration Institute
LOIS STARKEY, Manufactured Housing Institute
CHARLIE STEPHENS, Northwest Energy
Efficiency Alliance
RICHARD STEYER, Howe, Anderson & Steyer, PC
ARTURO THUR de KOOS, Fujitsu General America
JENNIFER TIEDEMAN, Office of General
Counsel, Department of Energy
MEG WALTNER, Natural Resources Defense
Council
JONATHAN WIENER, Earthjustice
DANIEL WILLIAMS, Lennox
TED WILLIAMS, American Gas Association
WEBINAR PARTICIPANTS:
JENNIFER AMANN, ACEEE
MARK ANDERSON, Cortez
WES ANDERSON, DOE
SHANE ANGLE, Emerson Climate Technologies,
Inc.
TIMOTHY BALLO, Earthjustice
ALLAN BASS, Bass Air Conditioning
MARK BERNARD, Bud Anderson Heating & Cooling
DAN BRAMBLETT, ACCA
JESSE BURD, Air Flow Designs
STEPHEN BUSH, Res-com Heating & ac
LES CALAHAN, Clark County Mechanical
RYAN CARROLL, HPBA
ABIGAIL CHINGOS, DOE
ROBERT COCHELL, Gulf Coast Air Systems
JIM CRAWFORD, Trane
DAVE CULVER, KB Complete
JOEY DAVENPORT, Lee County B.O.C.
TANYA DAVIS, Franks AC
PETER DEMPSEY, South Jersey Energy Service
Plus
LAURA DIFILIPPO, ACCA
MARIANNE DIMASCIO, Appliance Standards
Awareness Project
JOE DISCEPOLA, Grace Energy
NEAL R. GROSS COURT REPORTERS AND TRANSCRIBERS
1323 RHODE ISLAND AVE., N.W.
(202) 234-4433 WASHINGTON, D.C. 20005-3701 www.nealrgross.com
http:www.nealrgross.com
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GLEN DOWDING, ACCA
TODD FERRARA, Standard Heating & AC
TOM FESENMYER, Emerson Climate Technologies
MARCO FORTUNATO, Conversation Services Group
RICHARD FOSTER, ZONEFIRST
TIM GALLIGOS, Regal Beloit
GREG GANNON, First Company
MIKE GLOWKA, Airtron
MARCUS GOODMAN, Houk AC
TOM GOODNIGHT, Johnson Controls
CHARLIE HARAK, National Consumer Law Center
ABRAHAM HARVEY, Triple H Air Conditioning
DEREK HENDRICKSON, Hendrickson HVAC
TARI HENDRICKS, Reflectix
FEY HIGHMAN, Pure Air
JOHN HUDELSON, G.W. Berkheimer
RAY ISAAC, Isaac Heating and Air
Conditioning
BILL JEFF, Comfort Designs
MARK JENKINS, Comfort Professionals
WESLEY KIZER, The A/C Guy, LLC
BRENT KOERBER, Van Sant
DOMINIC KOLANDAYAN, Daikin AC Americas
MARK KREBS, Laclede Gas
JULIE KRITZ, AGL Resources
BIJIT KUNDU, Energy Solutions
LAURIE LETTNER, Pure Air
DAVID LIS, NEEP
DON LLOYD, DHL Home Services
LARISSA MARK, NAHB
LOUIS MARRONGELLI, CSG
SARAH MEDEPALLI, ICF International
MARK MENZER, Intertek
WILLIAM MILLER, American Public Gas
Association
CHRISTOPHER MORIN, Conservation Services
Group
MARK NAYES, Southside Heating and Air
Conditioning
WILLIAM NEELY, Premier Heating and Cooling
ALISON NELIGAN, NYSERDA
TED NISSLY, The McKee Group
KAREN OLIVER, KO Energy Design, LLC
RANDAL OYSTER, Regal Beloit
NEAL R. GROSS COURT REPORTERS AND TRANSCRIBERS
1323 RHODE ISLAND AVE., N.W.
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ANDREA PAPAGEORGE, AGL Resources
MARY PAULUS, Emerson Climate Technologies
DAVID PAYNE, Northern High Performance
STEPHEN PERKINS, Habitat for Humanity
JASON PIPER, Weather Master
JOHN RITTERPUSCH, NAHB
BARRY RIVEN, City of Bloomington
BRYAN ROCKY, Johnson Controls
ANIRUDDH ROY, AHRI
ROBIN ROY, NRDC
GREG SANDERS,
GREG SCHLEIFER, Standard Heating & Air
Conditioning
FRANK SCHNEIDER, R.E. Michel Co.
GARY SCHULTZ, Porter & Heckman
KIMBERLY SCHWARTZ, The ACHR NEWS
PAUL SELKING, Regal Beloit
BEN SHERMAN, Brockman
RONALD SHERMAN, Brockman Furnace
JEFF SHRIVER, ACCA
TERRELL SMALL, Mortex Products
DAVID SPECHT, Comfortworks HVAC
JASON STANEK, Metropolitan Utilities
District
ARLENE STEWART, AZS Consulting
THOMAS STROUD, HPBA
JERRY SUTHERLAND, Metfab Heating
JASON THORSON, Fluid Market Strategies
LOWELL UNGAR, Alliance to Save Energy
TODD VAN ANTWERP, Van Antwerp Mechanical
JIM VERSHAW, Ingersoll Rand-Trane
JEFF WARAN, ACCA
JACK WATSON, Watson A/C & Electric
HEATHER WHEELER, Middletown Air Conditioning
& Heating
CHUCK WHITE, PHCC
LINDA WILSON, NYS Office of the Attorney
General
DAVID WINIARSKI, Pacific Northwest National
Laboratory
MICHAEL WOODFORD, AHRI
GUIDO ZUCCONI, AHRI
NEAL R. GROSS COURT REPORTERS AND TRANSCRIBERS
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http:www.nealrgross.com
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TABLE OF CONTENTS
Welcome, Introductions, Agenda
Review, and Opening Statements
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Regional Standards Enforcement
Overview
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Information Disclosure Overview 198
Closing Remarks 244
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P-R-O-C-E-E-D-I-N-G-S
(9:06 a.m.)
FACILITATOR BROOKMAN: Good
morning, everybody, and welcome. This is the
Regional Standards Enforcement and Disclosure
for Furnaces and Central Air Conditioners and
Heat Pumps.
Today is Friday, December 16,
2011, here at the Forrestal Building in
Washington, D.C.
Glad you could make it, get an
early start on the day. We are going to have
welcoming remarks from John Cymbalsky to start
us off.
MR. CYMBALSKY: Thank you, Doug.
I would like to welcome everybody to the Joint
Public Meeting by the Department of Energy and
the Federal Trade Commission. To my
knowledge, we have never done this before. So
certainly this will be an interesting meeting.