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1 U.S. DEPARTMENT OF ENERGY OFFICE OF ENERGY EFFICIENCY AND RENEWABLE ENERGY + + + + + REGIONAL STANDARDS ENFORCEMENT AND DISCLOSURE FOR FURNACES, CENTRAL AIR CONDITIONERS, AND HEAT PUMPS + + + + + PUBLIC MEETING + + + + + FRIDAY, DECEMBER 16, 2011 + + + + + The meeting convened in Room 8E-089 of the Forrestal Building, 1000 Independence Avenue, S.W., Washington, D.C., at 9:00 a.m., Doug Brookman, Facilitator, presiding. PRESENT: DOUG BROOKMAN, Public Solutions, Facilitator KARIM AMRANE, Air-conditioning, Heating, and Refrigeration Institute ASHLEY ARMSTRONG, Department of Energy DAN ARNOLD, Nordyne, LLC NICHOLAS ATWOOD, Natural Resources Defense Council LAURA BARHYDT, Office of General Counsel, Department of Energy WARREN L. BEETON, Emerson Climate Technologies, Inc. DONALD BRUNDAGE, Southern Company Services DAN BUUCK, National Association of Home Builders DAVID CALABRESE, Air-conditioning, Heating, and Refrigeration Institute NEAL R. GROSS COURT REPORTERS AND TRANSCRIBERS 1323 RHODE ISLAND AVE., N.W. (202) 234-4433 WASHINGTON, D.C. 20005-3701 www.nealrgross.com

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    U.S. DEPARTMENT OF ENERGY OFFICE OF ENERGY EFFICIENCY

    AND RENEWABLE ENERGY

    + + + + +

    REGIONAL STANDARDS ENFORCEMENT AND DISCLOSURE FOR FURNACES, CENTRAL AIR

    CONDITIONERS, AND HEAT PUMPS

    + + + + +

    PUBLIC MEETING

    + + + + +

    FRIDAY, DECEMBER 16, 2011

    + + + + +

    The meeting convened in Room

    8E-089 of the Forrestal Building, 1000

    Independence Avenue, S.W., Washington, D.C.,

    at 9:00 a.m., Doug Brookman, Facilitator,

    presiding.

    PRESENT:

    DOUG BROOKMAN, Public Solutions, Facilitator

    KARIM AMRANE, Air-conditioning, Heating, and

    Refrigeration Institute

    ASHLEY ARMSTRONG, Department of Energy

    DAN ARNOLD, Nordyne, LLC

    NICHOLAS ATWOOD, Natural Resources Defense

    Council

    LAURA BARHYDT, Office of General Counsel,

    Department of Energy

    WARREN L. BEETON, Emerson Climate

    Technologies, Inc.

    DONALD BRUNDAGE, Southern Company Services

    DAN BUUCK, National Association of Home

    Builders

    DAVID CALABRESE, Air-conditioning, Heating,

    and Refrigeration Institute

    NEAL R. GROSS COURT REPORTERS AND TRANSCRIBERS

    1323 RHODE ISLAND AVE., N.W.

    (202) 234-4433 WASHINGTON, D.C. 20005-3701 www.nealrgross.com

    http:www.nealrgross.com

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    DAVE CASE, Office of General Counsel,

    Department of Energy

    ROGER COOPER, Cleveland Park Policy

    Consulting, LLC

    JOHN CYMBALSKY, Department of Energy

    LUCY DeBUTTS, Department of Energy

    ANDREW deLASKI, Appliance Standards

    Awareness Project

    PAUL DOPPEL, Mitsubishi Electric

    GARY FERNSTROM, Pacific Gas & Electric

    J. KEITH GATES, Cause of Action

    TALBOT GEE, Heating, Air-conditioning &

    Refrigeration Distributors International

    KYLE GILLEY, Lennox International

    JEFF HARRIS, Alliance to Save Energy

    BRIAN JAMES, Southern California Edison

    KATHERINE KENNEDY, Natural Resources Defense

    Council

    JIM KIBLER, AGL Resources

    MATT LATTANZI, Nordyne, LLC

    PAUL C. LIN, Regal Beloit

    BENJAMIN LONGSTRETH, Natural Resources

    Defense Council

    JOSEPH MATTINGLY, Air-conditioning, Heating,

    and Refrigeration Institute

    JOANNA MAUER, Appliance Standards Awareness

    Project

    MICHAEL McCABE, Department of Energy

    CHARLES McCRUDDEN, Air Conditioning

    Contractors of America

    JONATHAN MELCHI, Heating, Air-conditioning &

    Refrigeration Distributors International

    KAREN MEYERS, Rheem Manufacturing Company

    SOFIE MILLER, Charles Koch Institute

    SCOTT MORRISON, American Public Gas

    Association

    HAMPTON NEWSOME, Federal Trade Commission

    ELIZABETH NOLL, American Gas Association

    JAY PERKINS, Mitsubishi Electric

    STEVE PORTER, Johnstone Supply

    DAVID D. RANSOM, McDermott, Will & Emery

    HARVEY SACHS, American Council for an

    Energy-Efficient Economy

    NEAL R. GROSS COURT REPORTERS AND TRANSCRIBERS

    1323 RHODE ISLAND AVE., N.W.

    (202) 234-4433 WASHINGTON, D.C. 20005-3701 www.nealrgross.com

    http:www.nealrgross.com

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    DAVE SCHRYVER, American Public Gas

    Association

    FRANK STANONIK, Air-conditioning, Heating,

    and Refrigeration Institute

    LOIS STARKEY, Manufactured Housing Institute

    CHARLIE STEPHENS, Northwest Energy

    Efficiency Alliance

    RICHARD STEYER, Howe, Anderson & Steyer, PC

    ARTURO THUR de KOOS, Fujitsu General America

    JENNIFER TIEDEMAN, Office of General

    Counsel, Department of Energy

    MEG WALTNER, Natural Resources Defense

    Council

    JONATHAN WIENER, Earthjustice

    DANIEL WILLIAMS, Lennox

    TED WILLIAMS, American Gas Association

    WEBINAR PARTICIPANTS:

    JENNIFER AMANN, ACEEE

    MARK ANDERSON, Cortez

    WES ANDERSON, DOE

    SHANE ANGLE, Emerson Climate Technologies,

    Inc.

    TIMOTHY BALLO, Earthjustice

    ALLAN BASS, Bass Air Conditioning

    MARK BERNARD, Bud Anderson Heating & Cooling

    DAN BRAMBLETT, ACCA

    JESSE BURD, Air Flow Designs

    STEPHEN BUSH, Res-com Heating & ac

    LES CALAHAN, Clark County Mechanical

    RYAN CARROLL, HPBA

    ABIGAIL CHINGOS, DOE

    ROBERT COCHELL, Gulf Coast Air Systems

    JIM CRAWFORD, Trane

    DAVE CULVER, KB Complete

    JOEY DAVENPORT, Lee County B.O.C.

    TANYA DAVIS, Franks AC

    PETER DEMPSEY, South Jersey Energy Service

    Plus

    LAURA DIFILIPPO, ACCA

    MARIANNE DIMASCIO, Appliance Standards

    Awareness Project

    JOE DISCEPOLA, Grace Energy

    NEAL R. GROSS COURT REPORTERS AND TRANSCRIBERS

    1323 RHODE ISLAND AVE., N.W.

    (202) 234-4433 WASHINGTON, D.C. 20005-3701 www.nealrgross.com

    http:www.nealrgross.com

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    GLEN DOWDING, ACCA

    TODD FERRARA, Standard Heating & AC

    TOM FESENMYER, Emerson Climate Technologies

    MARCO FORTUNATO, Conversation Services Group

    RICHARD FOSTER, ZONEFIRST

    TIM GALLIGOS, Regal Beloit

    GREG GANNON, First Company

    MIKE GLOWKA, Airtron

    MARCUS GOODMAN, Houk AC

    TOM GOODNIGHT, Johnson Controls

    CHARLIE HARAK, National Consumer Law Center

    ABRAHAM HARVEY, Triple H Air Conditioning

    DEREK HENDRICKSON, Hendrickson HVAC

    TARI HENDRICKS, Reflectix

    FEY HIGHMAN, Pure Air

    JOHN HUDELSON, G.W. Berkheimer

    RAY ISAAC, Isaac Heating and Air

    Conditioning

    BILL JEFF, Comfort Designs

    MARK JENKINS, Comfort Professionals

    WESLEY KIZER, The A/C Guy, LLC

    BRENT KOERBER, Van Sant

    DOMINIC KOLANDAYAN, Daikin AC Americas

    MARK KREBS, Laclede Gas

    JULIE KRITZ, AGL Resources

    BIJIT KUNDU, Energy Solutions

    LAURIE LETTNER, Pure Air

    DAVID LIS, NEEP

    DON LLOYD, DHL Home Services

    LARISSA MARK, NAHB

    LOUIS MARRONGELLI, CSG

    SARAH MEDEPALLI, ICF International

    MARK MENZER, Intertek

    WILLIAM MILLER, American Public Gas

    Association

    CHRISTOPHER MORIN, Conservation Services

    Group

    MARK NAYES, Southside Heating and Air

    Conditioning

    WILLIAM NEELY, Premier Heating and Cooling

    ALISON NELIGAN, NYSERDA

    TED NISSLY, The McKee Group

    KAREN OLIVER, KO Energy Design, LLC

    RANDAL OYSTER, Regal Beloit

    NEAL R. GROSS COURT REPORTERS AND TRANSCRIBERS

    1323 RHODE ISLAND AVE., N.W.

    (202) 234-4433 WASHINGTON, D.C. 20005-3701 www.nealrgross.com

    http:www.nealrgross.com

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    ANDREA PAPAGEORGE, AGL Resources

    MARY PAULUS, Emerson Climate Technologies

    DAVID PAYNE, Northern High Performance

    STEPHEN PERKINS, Habitat for Humanity

    JASON PIPER, Weather Master

    JOHN RITTERPUSCH, NAHB

    BARRY RIVEN, City of Bloomington

    BRYAN ROCKY, Johnson Controls

    ANIRUDDH ROY, AHRI

    ROBIN ROY, NRDC

    GREG SANDERS,

    GREG SCHLEIFER, Standard Heating & Air

    Conditioning

    FRANK SCHNEIDER, R.E. Michel Co.

    GARY SCHULTZ, Porter & Heckman

    KIMBERLY SCHWARTZ, The ACHR NEWS

    PAUL SELKING, Regal Beloit

    BEN SHERMAN, Brockman

    RONALD SHERMAN, Brockman Furnace

    JEFF SHRIVER, ACCA

    TERRELL SMALL, Mortex Products

    DAVID SPECHT, Comfortworks HVAC

    JASON STANEK, Metropolitan Utilities

    District

    ARLENE STEWART, AZS Consulting

    THOMAS STROUD, HPBA

    JERRY SUTHERLAND, Metfab Heating

    JASON THORSON, Fluid Market Strategies

    LOWELL UNGAR, Alliance to Save Energy

    TODD VAN ANTWERP, Van Antwerp Mechanical

    JIM VERSHAW, Ingersoll Rand-Trane

    JEFF WARAN, ACCA

    JACK WATSON, Watson A/C & Electric

    HEATHER WHEELER, Middletown Air Conditioning

    & Heating

    CHUCK WHITE, PHCC

    LINDA WILSON, NYS Office of the Attorney

    General

    DAVID WINIARSKI, Pacific Northwest National

    Laboratory

    MICHAEL WOODFORD, AHRI

    GUIDO ZUCCONI, AHRI

    NEAL R. GROSS COURT REPORTERS AND TRANSCRIBERS

    1323 RHODE ISLAND AVE., N.W.

    (202) 234-4433 WASHINGTON, D.C. 20005-3701 www.nealrgross.com

    http:www.nealrgross.com

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    TABLE OF CONTENTS

    Welcome, Introductions, Agenda

    Review, and Opening Statements

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    Regional Standards Enforcement

    Overview

    31

    Information Disclosure Overview 198

    Closing Remarks 244

    NEAL R. GROSS COURT REPORTERS AND TRANSCRIBERS

    1323 RHODE ISLAND AVE., N.W.

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    P-R-O-C-E-E-D-I-N-G-S

    (9:06 a.m.)

    FACILITATOR BROOKMAN: Good

    morning, everybody, and welcome. This is the

    Regional Standards Enforcement and Disclosure

    for Furnaces and Central Air Conditioners and

    Heat Pumps.

    Today is Friday, December 16,

    2011, here at the Forrestal Building in

    Washington, D.C.

    Glad you could make it, get an

    early start on the day. We are going to have

    welcoming remarks from John Cymbalsky to start

    us off.

    MR. CYMBALSKY: Thank you, Doug.

    I would like to welcome everybody to the Joint

    Public Meeting by the Department of Energy and

    the Federal Trade Commission. To my

    knowledge, we have never done this before. So

    certainly this will be an interesting meeting.