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Transcript of “295 with Trina Felber”

Bulletproof Radio podcast #295

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Speaker1: BulletproofRadio,astateofhighperformance.

Dave: Hey,it’sDaveAspreywithBulletproofRadio.Today’scoolfactofthedayisthatyourskincan

coverquiteabitofarea.Onaverage,it’sabouttwosquaremeterswhenit’sstretchedoutandwhyyouneedtoknowthat,Ihavenoideabutit’sstillcool.

ThereasonIbringthatupisthatontoday’sshowwe’regoingtotalkaboutskin.We’regoingtotalkabouthowtohackitandhowtohelpitperform,becauseitisthelargestorganinyourbody.Althoughyoucouldprobablyarguethatyourintestinesmightbelargerifyouflattenedallofthelittlevillibutwe’renotreallygoingtogothere.

Ifyouwanttohearmoreaboutskin,youcouldcertainlyfinishlisteningtothisepisodebutthere’sbeenafewotherepisodeswithguestsyoumightwanttopayattentionto.AndyHnilo’sbeenonseveraltimesandI’mhelpingAndywithAliturahiscompanywhichisdoingreally,reallywell,thegreenfacialmaskthatyou’veseen.TrevorCateshasbeenon,theSpotDoctor,andSusanBennett.

Ifyoucan’trememberallthosenames,that’sokay.JustGoogleSkinBulletproofRadioandIpromiseyouthatyou’llseethingsaboutskincareandnothingelsethatyoushouldn’tbeseeing.Nonotsafeforworkstuffhere,allright.

Today’sepisodeiswithTrinaFelberwho’saPaleoSkinCareExpertandInternationalBestsellingAuthorofBeauty’sDirtySecretandCEOofPrimalLifeOrganics,whichisaPaleoorientedskincarecompany.She’sbeenaRNfor20yearsandthelasteightyears,she’sbeenaCertifiedRegisteredNurseAnesthetist.

Now,Trina,howdoestakingcareofyourskinhavetodoanythingwithknockingpeopleoutforaliving,becauseisn’tthatwhatyoudo?

Trina: Ididitalotforalongtime,yes.IliketoputpeopletosleepbutIliketofeedtheirskinevenmore.It’sjustinteresting,Istartedmycareerintheburncenterasanurseandthat’swhereIfellinlovewiththeskin.That’swhereIreallylearnedwhattheskinislikeandwhataninjurytotheskincanlooklikebutIalsolearnedthatitregeneratesandit’sreallycool,becausereallyeverythingregenerateseverysevenyears.

IreallygotapassionfortheskinandwhenIwentbacktoschooltodoanesthesia,Ilearnedatthecellularlevelwhatthingscandotothebody.IhavediscoveredthatIlikebiohackingskincareandthat’swhatIdo.Ilearnedhowtofeedthecellsoftheskin,thenutrientsthattheyneedsothattheycanperformnormallyandfunctionnormallysothatyouhavebeautifulskin.

Dave: Thisissomethingthat’softentimesnotsomethingthatguysaregoingtotalkabout.It’soneofthereasonsthatI’mafanofthisisthattheskinisanorganinthebody,right,andwe’llgointomoreofwhatitdoes…

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Trina: Right.

Dave: Alotofguysdon’treallytakecareoftheirskinandI’vebeenoneofthose.I’vebeenaskedafewtimes,maybemorethanaverage,“Dave,howcomeyourskinlookssogood?”Iactuallydidn’tnoticeitthatmuchandI’mlike,“Ah,butter.It’scalledtheBulletproofDiet,”butI’vehadachancetoworkwithsomeofthepeoplebehindthatfacialscrubbercompany,whosenameI’mforgettingnow…Clarisonic.

Foralittlewhilethere,Iwaslike,“I’mgoingtoscrub,”andI’mlike,“Thisisalotofwork.”Idothefacialmask,theAliturathingonoccasionandnowIusesomemoisturizerstuffbutI’vedefinitelynoticedthathavingjustaminorlevelofcare,otherthan,“Oh,Iusedsoaptoday.Woohoo,Iwin,”whichishowIusedtobe,thatitdoesactuallymakeyoulooklesshaggard.

Thisisn’tmassesofmakeupin45layersofstufflikealotofwomendo,andalsothat’sprobablynotgoodforyou,but…

Trina: Right.

Dave: Whatdoyousee?Becausethat’swhatessentiallyaboutyoudo,it’sPaleobutit’salsoskincare.Iimaginingcavemeninmudbathsorsomething.What’stheconnectionhere?Ithoughtskincamefromtheinsideoutandwhatareyoudoingfromtheoutsidein?Walkmethroughthat.

Trina: Oh,no,no.Youknowwhat,itdoes.Itdoescomefromtheinside.Youhavetofeedyourbodygoodthings,youknowthat,forthecellsthefunctionright,butitalsocomesfromtheoutside.IfyoutakealookatwhatBigCosmoisfeedingyou,thediet…IliketocallittheDietofBigCosmo…It’scarcinogens,endocrinedisruptors,andallsortsoftoxinsthatcancauseaplethoraofdiseasesorskinirritationproblems.

Dave: BigCosmo,whatwasthat?

Trina: Yeah,BigCosmo.

Dave: Whatisthat?LikeCosmoMagazine?

Trina: No,BigCosmoisyouwalkintothisdepartmentstoreoranystoreandyoupurchaseanykindofproductandit’sevengrocerystore,it’sanymassproducedproducts.It’salso,youhavetobeverycarefulbecauseproductsthatarelabelednaturalandorganic,alsocontainingredientsthatareharmful,becausethere’snoregulation,federalregulationforskincare.Youreallyonlyneedtohaveaverysmallamountofanorganicornaturalingredienttobeabletolabelitasnaturalandorganic.

Dave: Also,justbecauseit’snatural,myfavoritenaturalorganicplantproteinis?

Trina: What’sthat?

Dave: Sarin,thenervegas.Right,itcomesfrombeans,right.

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Trina: That’strue.Youknowwhat,Iliketotalkaboutwater,becausewater’snaturalandwater’s

organic.Whenyoulookatyourskincare,almostallthetime,theveryfirstingredientiswater,whichmeansthat’stheprimarywater,butit’snoteventhattheypurifyitordistillittoremovethethings,theheavymetalsandanykindoftoxinsthatareinthere.Whatyou’reactuallyputtingonyourskinorpurchasingispollutedwater.

Dave: That’swhat’scomingoutofthetap,too,whichyou’reprobablywashingyourfacewithaswellandthat’s…Itseemsreallycomplexwhenyoulookatthis.Ihavealotofexperienceinanti-aginginthatrealmandthere’ssomecrazylasersandthingslikethatyoucandoonyourfaceandallsortsofthings.ImayholdmybreathwhenI’minmycryochamberandgetmyface…

Trina: Iwasgoingtosay,yeah,cryotherapy.Yeah,yeah,aha.

Dave: Right,andI’malmostdirectlyaboveitrightnowandsothere’sallthosecrazystuffbut,okay,thenyougotoahotelroominwhatevercity,likeI’mgoingtoLAlaterthisweek.I’mgoingtobeshoweringinchlorinatedwaterthat’sprobablyfullofpharmaceuticalchemicals,differentpeople,liketheycanfindWellbutrininmostcitywaternowandI’msmearingitallovermyfaceandtherestofmybody.

AtleastI’mnotdrinkingit,but,okay,howdoIdealwiththat?Becauseyou’reaskincareexpertandIfeellikeI’m,first,Isoakitinjetfuel.Igetnooxygenundermyskin.IgetdehydratedandthenItakeashowerincrapwater,andhopefullynotwithhotelsoap,becauseI’mnotgoingtogotherebut,okay,how’sthenormalpersondealwithallthisstuff.

Trina: Okay,it’slikeanythingelse,youhavetooptimizeyourhealth.I’msureyoutalkaboutthis.I’veheardyoutalkaboutoptimizingyourhealthsothatwhenyouareexposedtosomethingthat’snotnaturalortothelevelthatyouwouldeatit,drinkit,putitonyourbody,yourbodyisabletometabolizeitandgetridofit.Yourliver’snotoverloadedtothepointwhereitcan’thandleanythingthatyouingestortakein,sameconcept.

Dave: Okay,sohandleyourselfonabiologicallevelfromtheinsideoutsoyoutakeyourtoxinbindingthingsandyouincreaseyourantioxidantsandyoudosomedeepbreathingexercisesandyoudogratitudeandforgivenessandsonowyou’renotstressed,butyou’restillcoatingyourskininchlorine,killingallthenaturalbacteriainyourskin.WhatcanIdofromanexternalskinperspectivetobasicallynotlooklikesuchazombie?IwasonCNBCSquawkBoxlastweek,nationalmedia,hugehit.MyflightwastwohourslateoutofChicago.IsleptthreehoursandwokeupatsixAM,NewYorktimewhichisthreeAM,mybiologicaltime…

Trina: Ouch.

Dave: WentonTVandIthinkactuallykickedassbuttheyhadthisbeautifulmakeupdepartmentfullofallsortsofcrazyasschemicalsandtheysmearedthemallovermyface,actuallydidalivevideowhiletheyweredoingmakeup.I’mlike,“Here’showyoulooksogreat,”right,but,okay,that’sjustodd.Atleasttherewasn’tsparklylipstickbutitwasprettywellcakedonbutthat’swhattheydoforeveryone,soallright,wheninRome.

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Iwipeditoffwiththisfacialthingafterwards,likeahandywipeanditwascovered,likealittle

mask,mydeathmaskofmakeupanditwasgross.GiventhatI’mnotgoingtodothatwhenI’msaygoingtoLAthistimebutI’mstillgoingtoflyforseveralhoursandI’mprobablynotgoingtolookmybest.IfI’mgoingtogooncamerawhenIgetthere,likeamoviestar,whatdotheydo?Whatdoyoudoforpeoplelikethat?HowdoIlookgoodbutalsoit’simportantformylongevityandforthingslikethattonotletmyskingetallcloggedup?WhatshouldIsmearonmyfaceorwhatshouldIdo?

Trina: WhatIhavedonewithmyline,whatIstarteddoingwasmakingthingsoutoffood.It’sallfoodbased.It’sfromtheearth.IliketocallitMotherEarthorPlanetEarthgivingbacktome.IdecidedthatiffoodiswhatIneed,theantioxidants,thevitamins,themineralstoeatandfeelbetter,thenjustimaginewhatmyskinwouldlooklikeifthat’swhatIusedonmyskin.IwasactuallyreallynervousaboutgivingupBigCosmobecauseIboughtintoexactlywhattheyweresellingmeandIhadacnefor40years.

Dave: Oh,wow.

Trina: Icouldn’t…Yeah,ImeanIcouldn’tgetridofit.Iwas40yearsold.IhadacneandmyskinwassooilyandIfinally…ThereasonIstartedmycompanyandthereasonIfoundskinfoodiswhatIliketocallit,isbecauseIsufferedamysteriousmiscarriage.Beingahealthnut,bothmyhusbandandIareveryhealthy,eatinghealthyandIwasat40yearsold.Istartedtoexamineeverythingaroundmethatcouldpossiblybepollutingme.Imeanyoudo,that’swhatyoudo.

Iknewthattherewas…IwouldneverknowwhatthereasonwasbutiftherewassomethingIcoulddo,IwouldalternatesomethingthatIcouldinmyenvironment.Ithinkthat’scalledbiohacking,right,orsomethingalongthoseterms.

Dave: Itisindeed.Infact,myveryfirstbookwasTheBetterBabyBook,whichwaseverythingyoucanpossiblydotoincreasefertilitybecausemywifewasinfertilewhenwemet.There’sawholechapteronmakeupandhouseholdchemicalsbecauseifyou’regoingtoexposeyourselftothose,especiallywhenyou’retryingtogetpregnant,thebody’ssensitive.Wehavearule,infact,therulecamefromthatbookandit’sthatifyouwouldn’tputitinyourmouth,don’tputitonyourskin.

That’soneofthethingsthatIreallyappreciateaboutwhatyou’redoingisyou’relike,“Okay,whatarethethingsgoinginyourmouthdoonyourskin?”whichiscool.

Trina: Yeah,that’sexactlyitandmakeup,everythingissopollutedandyoudon’trealizehowmuch,howmanythingsyou’reusingeveryday.Imeanevenyourtoothpaste.Iliketotalkabouttoothpasteandthefactthatit’sgoodtocleanyourteeth.Yourteethwillgetcleanwithitbuteverythingelsethatitdoestoyou,totallyoutweighsthecleaningandthere’sbetteralternatives.

Idevelopedatoothpowdermadefromdirt,madefromclaysbecausetheclayshavethehealingmineralsthatyourteethneedtore-mineralizesothattheydon’tbreakdown.Imadeitformy

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daughterwhohadadefectinhertoothwhenshewasbornandit’samazing.Itliterallywillre-mineralizeandhealyourteethbutit’sthesameconcept.Whatyouwon’teat,don’tputonyourskin.Yourcellsneedthosevitamins,minerals,antioxidants,andifyouwanttolookyounger…

WhenIwas40andhadoilyacneinfestedskin,IwasafraidtoputoilonmyskinbutwhenIwas…IgotpregnantagainalmostrightawayandIwassevenweeksalong.Iglanceddownatamoisturizeronemorningandalightbulbwentoff.IknewthattheingredientsthatwereintherewereveryharmfultomeandthatiswhenitconnectedthatIwasn’tashealthyasIthoughtIwas.IthoughtIwasthisguruinhealthandhereIampollutingmybodyandInevergavethempermissiontodothattome.

Iendedupgoingtomykitchenandjustslatheringmyfacewitholiveoilbecausethat’stheonlythingthatIknewatthatmomentthatwouldworkwellandwasnotgoingtopolluteme.Iliterallythrewoutmymakeup,IthreweverythingoutandIthought,“IfIcan’tmakeitorfindanalternativethatItrust,I’mnotgoingtouseit.”IgotbusybecauseIdidn’twanttolivewithoutmakeupforlong.

Dave: What’sinyourtoothpowder?What’sitcalled,bytheway?Bytheway,there’saruleonBulletproofRadiowhichisyou’renotheretosellstuff.Youtalkaboutthestuffyoumakebecauseobviously,youwouldn’tmakeitifyoudidn’tbelieveinit.

Trina: Right.

Dave: It’sactuallyahugeaxetocreatesomethingthatdidn’texistbeforeandit’snotnecessarytomakestuffthat’ssubparwhenyou’rerunningasmallcompanyyoumakebecauseyoucare,butdon’toversellthestuff.Justtellmewhat’sinitandwhypeoplecare.

Trina: It’smadewiththreedifferentclays,bentoniteclay,whitekaelinclay,andFrenchgreenclay,andthenit’sgotjustalittlebitofbakingsodabecausethatwillalsohelpcleantheteethandifyouwantitflavored,weusetheessentialoil.Peppermintisthemostlikeyourcommercialtoothpastetaste.

Dave: Itfeelsgood.I’veusedit.IuseavarietyofthingsonmyteethbutI’veabsolutelyusedyourstuff.

Trina: Yeah.

Dave: Yeah,it’sadifferentcleanfeeling.It’ssmootherthannormaltoothpaste.

Trina: Itisanditdoesn’tlather.It’scalledDirtyMouth.Actually,LizWolfenameditformebecauseIwashavingahardtimeandItextedher.

Dave: It’smuchbetterthanpottymouth,soyouwentona…

Trina: Yeah,wewentwithDirtyMouth,butitreallydoes.Itfeelsgoodandit…Thethingthat…Idon’tknowifyouknowthis.Youmight.Yourteeth,inordertobere-mineralized,theprocessallhastohappeninyourmouth.Itcannotleachmineralsfromyourbloodstream.Ifyoudon’thavethe

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mineralsinyourdietandmostpeopleonaPaleoDietprobablyhaveasufficientorgoodamount,butweallknowthatthesoilisdepleted.

Theonlywaytogetthosemineralsinyourmouthistoeithereatthemthroughyourfoodandyourdietortobrushwiththem.Sinceyoulook...IfyoulookatyourBigCosmotoothpaste,you’regoingtofindzeromineralsinthere.They’recleaningyourteethbutthey’renotreallyfeedingyourteethanything.

Dave: Fluoride’samineral?

Trina: Yes,that’snotagoodone.

Dave: Okay,whywouldyoutellpeoplenottoFluorideintheirmouth?

Trina: It’sjusttoxic.It’stoxicinnumerousways.It’snotgoodforyourliver.It’sjustnotgoodforyoubodyandit’snotgoodforchildren.

Dave: Ifullyagree.I’mjustalwaysgatheringopinionsanddataonthat.Mybiggestoneisit’saprescriptiondrugtoslowthyroidfunction.

Trina: Right.

Dave: Whichis…Yeah,that’saproblem.

Trina: Yeah,littlebit,yeah.Yeah,yeah.YouweretalkingaboutmenusingskincareandIhavetotellyou.Ihavealotofmaleclients.Alot.It’samazing.Ididn’tthinkthatmenweregoingtobeasinterested.Myhusbandisaskincarejunkie.He’smynumberonefan,butmenaregettingmoreandmoreconcernedandinterestedastheyshouldbebecausebreastcancerisontheriseinmenaswellandit’sactuallygrowingfasterthanwomen.

TheendocrinedisruptorsthatareinBigCosmoproductscandisruptyourendocrinesystemandyourhormonalsystemisresponsibleforalotofthingsthatcancausecancers,allsortsofthings.

Dave: Wehaveanadvantageinthatwecanlookdistinguishedbutthere’sanotherwordforthatwhichisold.Ithinkalotofguys,andnotjustmiddleagedguys,butevenyoungerguysarejustsaying,“Waitaminute,Iliketolookreasonablygood.Okay,IfeelbetterwhenIlookhealthy,whenIdon’thavepimples,whenIhavegiantporesandthatstuff,soI’mgoingtodoafewsimplethings,”butIgettheimpressionthatthereareveryfewguysouttherewhoarewillingtospendanhourinthemorningpreparingtheirfaceandtherearealotofwomen…

Infact,there’s…Whoisthat?MichellesomeoneoranotherwithabillionYoutubeviewsonhowtohavepoutylips.I’mlikeabillionpoutylipvideoslike,“Oh,mygod.”Idon’tknowalotofguyswhowatchthosethingsbutclearlythere’samarket.Whydoyouhavesomanyguyswhocareaboutwhatyou’redoingversustheaverageskincarethingwhichislike,“Oh,mygod,wehavealavenderscent.Oh,andit’ssodelicious.”You’relike,“Okay.”Whatareyoudoingdifferent?

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Trina: I’lltellyou.Iservicethepeoplethat…Icallthemtheeliteoftheskincarepyramidbecauseit’s

thepeople…Ifyougettome,mostlikelyyouhavechangedyourdiet.You’reeatinghealthy.Youarelookingforthingsthatarepollutingyouinyourenvironmentandinyourfood.

Thepeoplethat,mycustomersreallyaretheeliteoftheelite,theyreallytakecareofthemselvesandnottosaythatotherpeopledon’tbutthat’swhofindsme.They’relookingformeandwhentheyfindme,it’sanoverwhelmingsenseofreliefthattheycantrustsomebody.I’veformulatedeverythingmyself.Iformulatedeverythingformyselfandformyfamily.

Dave: Yeah.

Trina: Wetalkedaboutkidsandmybiggestconcernisthattoday,kidsarebeingpollutedfromtheminutethey’reconceivedbecausetherehavebeen…Theingredientsinskincarelikefalatesandperaminshavebeenfoundinthecorebloodofnewbornbabiesandthatscaresme.I’vedoneOBNursinganesthesia.I’vebeenintheoperatingroom.Youseethoselittletinybabiescomingandit’sjustscarytothinkofanenvironmentthatstartedintoxicityasopposedtoyearsagowhenthatwasacleanenvironment.

Dave: Ifyoulookatevenjustwhat’sinmodernfemininecareproducts,you’relike,“You’reputtingthosechemicalswhere?”

Trina: Right,exactly.

Dave: Itjustdoesn’tmakesense.

Trina: Iknow.It’sreallyscary.

Dave: Nowyou’vegotthisabilityfortheskintoabsorbthings,whichisimportantinthatit’s…Infact,allright,thisisalittleknownfactbuthowoldyourson,daughter?

Trina: MydaughterissevenandIhavetwinboysthatarefive.

Dave: Mydaughter’seight,mysonissix,soverysimilar.

Trina: Yes.

Dave: Youknowinthefirsttwoyearsoflife,becauseyou’reaskincareexpertandbecauseyouhavemedicaltrainingthat50%ofthecaloriesthatbabiesconsumearenotthroughthemouth.It’sactuallythroughtheskinontheirface,whichiswhytheyrubthefoodallovertheirface,soitcanabsorb,right.

Trina: Right.

Dave: Okay.

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Trina: That’sright.

Dave: Maybethat’snotentirelytruebut…

Trina: Theyknowmorethanus.Theyknowthatthatfoodisgoodfortheirskinand,“Mom,stopputtingthatcraponme.”

Dave: Right.

Trina: “WhatIreallywantisthisavocadosmashedonmyface.”

Dave: It’ssofunny,butit’strueinthatifyouweretoputsomeweirdlotionycrapalloveryourbaby,whichalotofpeopledo,itdoesgetabsorbedveryrapidly.Itdoesmesswiththingsandyouhavethemostleveragerightaroundthemonthbeforeconceptionandthefirsttrimester.Fromthenonout,throughoutyourentirelife,youhavelessleverage.Ittakesmoreworktocausechange,butthatalsomeansthatifyoudosomethinginearlyon,thatfirstthreemonthsoflife,andIthinkskincareforbabiesisoneofthemoreimportantthingsyoucandoright.

Trina: Absolutely.

Dave: Wehaven’ttalkedaboutthebiomehere,thenaturalbacteriathatliveontheskinanddoyoudoanythingwhenyou’resmearingyourfoodbasedproducts…Isaysmearingbutyou’rejustusingthat…Theylookandfeellikenormalproducts.

Trina: They’rebeautyproducts.

Dave: They’rebasedonthingsthatactuallyarebiologicallycompatiblewithus.

Trina: Right.

Dave: Haveyoudoneanyresearchintowhatthosedofor,say,thenaturalbacteriaonyourskin,foryeast,foralltheotherproblemslikethat?Justwalkmethroughwhathappenswhenyouputyourstuffonversusnormalstuff.

Trina: AlotofthatiswithsomeoftheingredientsthatareintheBigCosmossoapsandlotionscandestroyyournormalflora,yournormalbacteriathatliveonyourskinthatprotectyou.It’sreallyyourfirstlineofdefensebeforeyourskinisthoselittlebiomes,microbes,thingsthatliveonyourskin.Ifsomethingcomesalongthey’lleatitanddestroyitbeforeitbecomesyoubutmostofthesoapsthathavesodiumlorasulfateonit,triclosan,thingslikethatinitcandestroyyournaturalbacteriaandthenyouaresusceptibleormoresusceptibletohavinginvasionthroughyourskin.

WhatIdidisIproduce…Noneofmyproductswilldestroyanyofyournormalmicrobesorbacteria.MysoapsdonotcontainSLS.They’realloilbasedsoaps.

Dave: Cool.

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Trina: It’samazingthedifferencethatyoufeelonyourskinwhenyou’renotstrippingyournaturaloils

andbacteria,becauseyouneedthat.Yourskinisinmuchbetterhealthfromtheverybeginning,fromtheoutside,andthenyoustartfeedingitfromtheoutsidetotheinsideaswellasthedietthatyoueat.Themoreoilsandhighfatsorgoodfatsthatyoueat,aswellastheothernutrition,yourmicronutrientsthatyoueat,thebetteryourskin’sgoingtolookandthefasterit’sgoingtohealwhensomethingdoeshappentoit.

Dave: Youcanspeedupskinhealingand,allright,here’saquestion.Whenyoutravel,youclearlytakeyourstuffwithyou,right.

Trina: Yes.

Dave: Doyouseethatalotofpeoplearenowtravelingwithsoap?Ihaveforyears,becauseifyourskin’susedtoacertainsoap,thenwhenyougotoahotelandyouputtheir…Theworld’scheapestsoapintheworld’smostexpensivewrapper,whichiswhatyoufindathotels,you’retotallymessingwithanorganinyourbody,butdoyouseethatmostofyourclientsnowtravelwiththeirownsoapordopeoplestillusethoselittlehotelbars?

Trina: Ithinkmostofmyclientstaketheirown,takeeithermyproductsorwhateverthey’reusingfromtheirown.MainlybecauseI’vehadpeoplecontactmethatsaidtheytotallyforgottotaketheirtoothpowderwiththemandtheyhadtousenastytoothpowderortoothpasteandtheycouldn’tstand…Theyweregaggingonthefoamingintheirmouth.Theycouldn’tbelievethattheywouldgagonthefoamthatwasbeingproduced.Thesoapaswell,peoplewouldsay,I’vehadpeoplecommentabouthowdry…Immediatelytheynoticedadifferenceinhowdrytheirskinwas.

Dave: Iwouldrecommendthatjustforanyonelisteningrightnow,ifyou’regoingtotravelsomewhere,takewhateversoapyou’reusingandthePrimeLifeOrganicsis…Likewe’retalkabout…It’sgoodstuff.Youtakethatandyouthrowitinyoursuitcase.Youcantakeaknifeandcutoffalittlebitofit,ifthat’snecessary.That’swhatIdo.Ikeepitinlittleziplockbags.ThesamelittlecrackbaggiesIuseformysupplements,actually.

Thenthatway,myskin’susedtowhatit’susedandI’mprobablygettingcrappycitywaterinsteadoftheultrafilteredwellwaterthatIhaveathome,butallright,fine.Thatjustmakesadifference.Idon’tthinkmostpeopledothat.Likepeoplego,“Oh,Igotfreesoapatthehotel,”sotheyjustdoitbutIthinkit’sanunconsciousactandit’snotthathardtodothatandwhenyoujusthaveconsistencyforyourskinlikethat,itreducesoneofthose10,000tinylittleburdensonyourbiologythatyoudidn’thavetodo.

Trina: Iagreeandthereisastresswhenyoutravel.Imeanenvironmentalstressfromtheairplane,ifmostpeoplewilltravelbyair,butyou’regettingbombardedbyfreeradicalsinternallyandexternallysothemoreyoucandotostaynormal,thebetter.Liketakingyoursupplementswithyou,takingyourproteindrinksoryourgreendrinks,thethingsthatyoudodaily.Takeenoughforyoutotakewithyousothatyourbodycanstillfunctionnormallyandyoucandefendthatstressalittlebitbetterandreducetheinflammationthatit’scausing.

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Dave: OneofthethingsthatIusedtodo,alongtimeago.I’mgoingtogoonvacationsoI’mjustgoing

toeatcrapanddrinkbeerand,funny,Ifeltlikecraptheentirevacation.Nowit’slike,I’mgoingonvacation,I’mabsolutelypackingbutter,BrainOctane,Bulletproofcoffeebeans,andIwouldn’timaginegoingsomewhereanddoingthingstolowermyenergyleveland,yes,IhavealittlekitthatI…AlittlezipperthingwiththeTSAapprovedbaggiesize.

Trina: Yes.

Dave: Bytheway,neattrick.

Trina: Yeah.

Dave: Ifyouhavetwobaggies,becauseyouneedtwobaggiesandthey’reinseparatebins,you’realmostcertainlygoingtogetawaywithit.

Trina: Oh,Ididn’tknowthat.

Dave: Oh,sneaky,huh.

Trina: Sneaky.

Dave: SoI’veheard,I’veneverdonethat,but…

Trina: Okay.

Dave: Whatyoucoulddothoughisjustyoubringthisstuffthat’swithyouandIhaveoneandthisisanothertrickthatI’drecommendforpeople.Ifyoutravelatallregularly,justkeepabagofstuffthatyouhavetopackeachtimesoithasyourtoothpowder.Bytheway,toothpowderisnotaliquidorgelsoitdoesn’thavetobeinsidethatbag.Youhaveallthestuffandthenyoujusttakethatandyoutravelwithitratherthangoingintoyourbathroom,dismemberingallyourdailyritualstuff.

Becausewhatit’saboutformeisIdon’twanttospendanextraminuteplanninganddoingstuffeverymorningbecausemystuffisallovertheplace.IjustwantthingstofloweffortlesslysoIdon’thavetopayattentionwhichallowsmetopayattentiontosomethingmoreimportantlikeI’mworkingonmynextbookrightnowandthingslikethat.

It’slike,“Okay,amIgoingtothinkaboutpackingcrapformynexttripisoritjustgoingtobepacked?”Itshouldcontainwhatyouuseonyourteeth.Youshouldn’tuserandomstuffwheneveryougo.Youshouldn’tuserandomsoapandrandomshampooandrandomotherskincareproducts.Ijust,Idon’trecommendthat.

Iwanttoshiftgearstoanentirelydifferentthing.Goingbacktowhatyouputinyourmouth.

Trina: Yes.

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Dave: Noteatingbutintermsoftoothpowder.Areyoufamiliarwiththenitricoxideeffectsof

bacteriainthemouth?Isthatsomethingthatyou’veevercovered?

Trina: Ihaven’tcoveredbutI’mfamiliarwithnitricoxide.

Dave: Cool.InthelastQuarterlyBoxormaybetheonebeforethatthatIdo.IdothisboxwithQuarterlywhereeveryquarter,Ishipoutlikeagiftbox.Iputnitricoxidetestingstripsandthisisreallycoolstuff,becausewhenyouhaveenoughnitricoxideinthebody,itactsactuallyasasignalingmoleculeandnoonehadanyideaaboutthis10yearsago.It’sprobablyoneofthosebreakthroughthingsthatwe’regoingtojustkeephearingmoreandmoreabout.

Inordertogetnitricoxide,thegoodkind,nottheinflammatorykind,youhavetoeatyourvegetablesandyouhavetohavebacteriainyourmouth.Ifyoukillthebacteriainyourmouth,youwon’tcreatenitricoxidethewayyoushould.Ifyou’veseenthecrappytoothpasteandantisepticmouthwashes,you’reactuallytotallychangingyourbody’sabilitytocausevasaldilation.Youcan’tgetvasaldilation…Wherewouldyoulikethemostbloodflowtobeinyourbodyotherthanyourbrain?That’skindofimportant.

Thereareeffectsthatcomefromusingbadtoothpasteinthemouthandtheeffectswillcomeoutinotherpartsofthebodythatexperiencelargethingsandbloodflow,inbothmenandwomen.

Trina: Interesting,interesting.Speakingofbloodflow,thisisacoolproductthatIdeveloped,ifwe’respeakingaboutbloodflowandfood.

Dave: Yeah.

Trina: Imadethis…IsufferedfromacneforyearsandIwantedsomethingthatactuallywouldhealazitalmostovernightsoonedayIwasgoingtobedandIhadbeenmakingthismuscleserumformyneck.Ithadcayennepepperandmentholinit.IhadthisbigjuicyzitthatwasgrowingonmycheekbytheminuteandIthought,“Huh,”beingtheinventorthatIam,Isaid,“Iwonderwhatcayennepepperdoesforazit.”

IputalittlebitonmyzitandwenttobedandasIwasgoingtobeditwasstingingandburninglikecrazy,butitwasthebestfeelingbecauseIfeltlike,“Oh,mygosh,it’sburningthecrapoutofthatzit.”Finally,finally,something’sgoingtoburnthecrapoutofit.IgotupthenextmorningandIhappenedtoglanceinmymirrorandhadtodoadoubletake,thatzitwasgone.

Dave: Wow.

Trina: Iwaslike,“Oh,mygosh,that’swhatcayen—”ThenIturnedaroundandIstartedresearching.Whytheheckdidcayennepepperdothat,besidesthefactthatit’shot?It’sthecapsaicininitthatcreatesthatheatbutitalso,duringthatheatiswhenthebloodflow’sbeingincreasedtothatsection,thatareathatyouputitonsothatzitisbeingfedallthesenutrients.

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WhatIdidwasIcreated,IwentbackandImadethisagainandformulateditwithabunchofessentialsoilsthatwouldactuallydecreaseinflammation,decreaserednessandspeedhealinglikeyouwouldn’tbelieve,regeneratethecells.I’mtellingyou,IcallitBanishedbecauseliterallyitwillbanishanythingveryquickly,butit’ssocooltoseewhatfoodcanactuallydoonyouroutsidesandhowyourskinactuallyrespondstoit.It’ssoimportant.

Dave: Peoplewhoarelisteningintheircars,alotofpeople,somethataredrivingoratworkbutifyou’renotwatchingthisonYoutube,youcan’treallytellbut,Trina,youhavesuperclearskin,right.

Trina: Thankyou,Dave.

Dave: Forsomeonewhohadacneforalongtime,you’redoingreallywellandIhadasimilarproblem.Iusedtogetthesesubterraneanzitsupintomyadultlife,tillIwasaboutmyearly30sandI’mlikeearly40snow.Thisis10yearsago.

Trina: Isn’tthatwhenyouchangedyourdiet,too?

Dave: Yeah,IreallystarteddevelopingthisandIchangedmydietalotbeforethatbutIwasstillgettingthedeeppimples.Iwasgettinglessofthem,butit’dbelike,“Oh,wow.”There’sarednessandthenadayithurtsandthenthisthingwoulderuptfromthereallydeeplayersoftheepidermis.Ineverunderstoodwhatwasgoingonbutwhat’sgoingonthereissystemicinflammationandformeitwaseatingcertainfoodsanditwasexposuretocertaintoxins.

TheonlywayIgetzitsnow,I’dmaybegetthreeayear.It’sveryunusual.IgoandI’mlike,“Oh,mygod.”Icantellyou,ifIgointoawaterdamagedbuilding,whichformetriggershugeamountsofsystemicinflammation,Ididawholedocumentaryaboutthiscommonproblem.Thenthree,fourdayslater,I’llgetthemandit’slike,“Oh,mygod,Iactuallyhaveapimple.IthinkIrememberhowtotakecareofthis.”

Whatyoudo,youtreatitfromaninflammatoryperspectiveandthat’sjustwhatyou’redoingwiththeformulayoumade,isyou’relookingatthis,butI’vegottoask,there’scapsaicininit,right?Ifyougetnearyoureyes…

Trina: Ah-woo.

Dave: Orcertainotherareas?

Trina: Hey,thisisinteresting,yeah.IjustdidalittlebloginterviewwithagirlthatImetwhenIwasinAustinlastweekendbutshesaidsheusestheBanishedwhenshewantstoeither,one,getbackatherhusbandor,two,whenshe’snotinthemood.

Dave: Iwill…

Trina: Oh,mygosh.

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Dave: I’llconfesssomething.IgrewupinNewMexicowhereweeatthesereallyhotgreenchilesandthey’recalledHatchGreenChileandthey’refireroastedandinordertoeatthem,youhavetopeeltheminthesink.Youjustgetcoveredingreenchileoil.IthinkeveryoneinNewMexico,atleastwho’smale,hasexperiencedtheproblemdoingthatandthengoingtothebathroom.Thenyouhavetohandlecertainthingsandyou’relike,“Somethingreallybadjusthappened,”andthenthere’snothingyoucandoaboutit.I’mguessingBanishedmighthaveasimilareffect?

Trina: Verysimilarandifyougetitinyoureyes,itwillstinganditwillburnandyouwon’tbeabletoseeforabout20minutesbutitwillbeokay.Becauseactuallythereiscapsaicinorthecayennepeppereyedropsandit’sveryanti-inflammatory,veryhealing.Idon’tmakethembecauseI’mnotgoingtotouchthatbutifdogettheBanishedinyoureye,becauseitdoes...andhere’stheotherthingthat’sreallyamazingtome.

WhatBanishedreallyshowsyoubecauseyoufeeltheheatisyoucan,adaylater,sometimesifyousweat,you’llgetthatsensationit’slike,“Wow,it’sstillinmyskin.It’sactuallyinmyskin,still.”Youdoknowthatit’sworkingandyoudoknowthatthingsseepinthereandcansitthereand…butanyway,you’llbefine.

Dave: Substancepeeistheprimarysignalingandinflammatorymoleculeinthebody,weactuallyshareitwithslugs.

Trina: Yeah.

Dave: It’sfunny,becausecapsaicin,thatchemicalincayenneisaclassofchemicalscalledavanilloidandit’scalledvanilloidbecausetheydiscoveredthefirstoneinvanillasoyoucanactuallyusevanillaandcapsaicinsimilarlybutvanilladoesn’tburn.

ItendtoputateaspoonofVanillaMax,thelabtestedrealvanilla,notthefakevanillawhichis95%ofvanillayoucanbuy.There’slikegroundup,wholeherbvanillabeansandIputthatinmyBulletproofcoffeebecauseyouwanttobasicallyexhaustyoursupplyofsubstancepeeanddoingittopicallyisreallywellestablished,evenforthingslikearthritisandjointpainandyou’vefoundoutforskininflammation,thenyouaddedsomeotherthingsforit,whichisprettycool.

Trina: I’llhavetocheckoutvanilla,I’llbeputtingvanillainsomethingsoon.

Dave: It’stotallyworthit.Justmakesureyougetagoodsupply,becauseit’sadriedtropicalproduct.Whenyoudrythingsfromthetropicswhereit’smoist,youtypicallygetmoldandI’vebeentothegrocerystoreandseenthe$12forthreevanillabeans,andyoucanseethewhitestuffgrowingonthemandthatwaswhatinspiredme.WeuseadifferentcuringprocessfortheBulletproofvanilla.

Trina: Iknow,I’veusedyoursinmycoffeeandIloveit.

Dave: You’veused…Okay,cool.

Trina: Yeah,I’mabigBulletprooffan.

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Dave: Ah,thankyou.

Trina: Yeah.

Dave: Evenjusttinyamountsofit,thearomaofthatandyoucouldprobablygetsomepurevanillaoil,

thatmighthaveaconcentrated,thatIhavenotlookedatthattopicallybuthaveyoueverusedcoffeeasanexfoliant?IhaveafewBulletprooffanswhoarelike,“Oh,mygod,Idon’twanttowastetheBulletproofcoffee,afterIbrewitsoItakeitintotheshowerandIscrubmyfacedownwithit.”Isthatagoodidea?

Trina: Oh,mygod,it’sawesome.IactuallyhaveacoffeeserumthatImadethatisamazing.ItechnicallyonlysellifJanuary,throughthewintermonthsbecauseit’sreallygoodfromthewinter.It’scoffeebeanserum.PeopleloveitsomuchthatIkeepithiddenonmywebsite,butavailabletothepeoplethatknowitbecausetheywantitallyearround.

Dave: It’snothiddenanymore.There’s40millionpeoplehaveseenthis.

Trina: That’sokay,becauseit’ssuchagoodserum.Youknowwhat,I’veactuallywantedtomakeascrub,acoffeegroundscrubandIwouldlovetouseBulletproofasmycoffeesowecouldcollaborate.

Dave: Let’stalk.

Trina: Wecouldcollaborate,thatwouldbefun.

Dave: Yeah.Imean,rightnow,IthinkwecompostourgroundsfromtheBulletproofcoffeeshop.Idon’tknowhowmanygroundsyouneedbutifyou’re…Ithinkyouwantjustused,spentcoffeeifit’stheexfoliantpart.It’sasintotakeperfectlygoodcoffeethatyoucoulddrinkandthensmearitonyourskinbutyoucould…

Trina: Ithasgood…Coffeehassuchgood…Youknow,ithassuchgoodnutrientsinit,though.Idon’tknowthatitwouldbeawastetouserealcoffeegrounds.

Dave: Yeah,I’veusedrealcoffeeinsoapbeforeandit’saninterestingoneandIwanttotryyourserum.You’vegottosendmesomecoffeeserum.

Trina: Oh,Iwill.Iwill.I’llsendyouawholepackage.

Dave: Youjustinjectitstraightintothevein?Isthathowitworks?

Trina: Youcan,youcan,itworksreallygoodthatwayoryoucouldputfourdropsonyourface.

Dave: Thatsoundslikelesswork.I’monthesideofneedles.Iliketalkingwitharegisterednurse,thisiscoolbecauseIcanmakeneedlejokesandyoudon’tfreakout.

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Trina: No,Iloveneedles,notforme,butIliketogivethemtootherpeople.

Dave: ThefirsttimeIeverdidavitamininjectiononmyselfwasprobably13yearsago.ItwasaVitaminB12intramuscularinjectionandIhadorderedthestufffromEurope.IwassittingtherewithaneedlelookingatmythighandImusthavesatthereforanhour,justholdingtheneedle,lookingatmythighgoing,“I’mgoingtodoit.I’mnotgoingtodoit.”ItwasincrediblydifficultandthenwhenIdidit,Iwaslike,“Actually,itdidn’treallyhurtverymuch,”butitisanunnaturalacttostickaneedleintoyourselfbutonceyou’reusedtoit,it’snotabigdeal.

Trina: Iknowandthepeoplethatarediabeticthathavetodothateveryday,it’sasmallneedlethattheyuse,butstill,it’shardtodoittoyourself.Youalmostneedtohavesomeonewalkupbehindyouandjustjamyourhanddownintoit,right.

Dave: Yeah.It’saloteasieronsomeoneelseandI’mnotlicensedtoputneedlesinbutImighthavehelpeddoctorsgetneedlesintheirarmswhentheyneedednutritionalIVsaswell.It’sjusthowyouroll.

Trina: That’sright.

Dave: Allright,IwanttotalkaboutwhatIshoulddo?I’mallaboutincreasingmyperformance.Iwanttofeelreallygoodandthere’stimeswhenI’m…sleepthreehoursandgoonTVshowsinNewYork.WhatshouldIdowhenI’mprobablygoingtobealittlebitinflamed,right?HowdoImakemyselflookallrightandthisappliestoalotofpeople.

“Oh,I’masalesperson,”doyouwanttoinlookinglikeazombieordoyouwanttogoinandlooklikeyou’regoingtosellthatdayorwhateveryouare.There’stimesduringthedaywherelookingyourbestisactuallygoingtoincreasetheresultsyougetanditcouldbeyou’regoingonadateandthingsjustaren’tright.

Itcouldbeyoudranktoomuchlastnightbutthere’stimeswhenIneedtoberescued,fromthewayIlookandifyousharemyvaluesandwehavethesamebeliefsthere,youdon’twanttosmearwhateverpreparationoveryourfaceorwhateverchemicalsyou’resupposedtouse.Justgivemethedownlow.WhatshouldIdowhenIlooklikeazombieandIwanttolooklikeI’msupergood?

Trina: Ialwaystellpeoplethatinthemiddleofthedayistheperfecttime…Especiallywhenyou’remakingdinner.IfI’musingcoconutoil,Ijuststartsmearingitonmyface,too.Idon’tletanygotowaste.I’lljusttakerightoffthespoonandputitonmyface.Anytimeyoucanaddoiltoyourface,yourfacewillloveit.

Iliketotellpeople,thefastestwaytoanti-ageistogetridofthewaterthat’sintheproductsbecausethewater’sgoingtodehydrateyourskinandaccentuateyourwrinklesthatisinalltheBigCosmothingsandputoilonyourskinbecauseyourskinlovesit.Theoilisactuallygoingtoplumpupyourcellsandmakeyourcellshealthier.You’regoingtohavealittlebitofabettertonedskinandit’sgoingtobeabettercolor,too.

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Mid-day,anytimeyoucan,putalittlebitofextraoilonyourskin.Itdoesn’thavetobeanythingfancy.Isavethefancystuffforbedtimeorfirstthinginthemorningbutinthemiddleoftheday,alittleslatherofoilorbutter.

Dave: Here’swhatIdo.IhavethoselittlebackpackingtravelbottlesofBrainOctane,becauseItravelwiththoseanywayandIhavealittleonethatIcarrywithmeinmybackpack,soduringtheday,whateverI’mhavingforlunch,IpoursomeonandIputmyfingeroverthelidofittomodulate.Ionce,I’mlike,“Oh,no,Igotsomedripsofoilandthenyourubitonyourhandsorrubitonyourface,rubitinyourarmsbecausewhywouldyouwasteit,right?

Trina: That’sright.That’sright.

Dave: Idoitallthetime.

Trina: That’sperfectandit’sgotadded…Imeanthat’sevenbetterbecauseit’sbetterthanjuststraightcoconutoiloranythingstraight,yeah,anything,anythingyouhave.

Dave: Okay,butI’vealsowhenIhadreallychappedlipsonetime,IsmearedavocadosonthemandIprobablylookedlikeTheHulkorsomething,butyou’retalkingjustpureoil,notlikeoilcontainingfoodslikepeanutbutteronyourfaceisn’tagoodidea.

Trina: Idon’tknow,youcouldtryandseewhatkindoflooksyouget.Idon’tknow.Itjustdependsonwhatkindof…ifyou’retryingtoimpresssomeoneornot.

Dave: Nice,allright,soalittlebitofoilandyousaidsomethingtherethat’salittleconfusing.Whywouldwaterdryoutyourskin?

Trina: Oh,Ilovethistopic.Thisisoneofmyfavoritetopics.Waterasitdoesn’tgetabsorbedintoyourskin,sowhenyoubatheorgointheswimmingpool,thinkaboutwhenyou’vebeenintoolongandyougetoutandyou’rehandsandyourfeetareallwrinkly.Thewaterisactuallypullingthemoistureoutofyourskinandwhenyou’reusingcommercialskincarethat’sprimarilymadeofwater,ifyoulookandit’sthefirstingredient,unfortunately,itcouldbeupto90%water.

Whenyouputthatonyourskinonadailybasisormultipletimesadaybecauseit’sinalmosteveryproduct,thewateritselfdoesn’tgetabsorbed.Itevaporatesandasitevaporates,ittakesyournaturaloilsandstripsyournaturalmicromesormicrobiologythatisgoingtoprotectyou.It’sactuallydehydratingyourskinamultipleofways,becauseitjustdependsonhowmanythingsyou’reusingeveryday.

Dave: Okay.

Trina: Ifyou’reputtingoilon,theoilisactuallygoingtobeprotective.It’sgoingtokeepyournaturalbiologythereandit’sgoingtobeabsorbedmuchbetter.

Dave: Allright,sothat’sbecausethecellmembraneismadeoutoffats?

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Trina: Fats,yeah.

Dave: Alotofpeoplethinkmembraneandyouimaginesaranwraporsomethingorsomesolidthingbutit’sreallymanytinydropletsoffat.Fatcansticktofatandthingslikethat.I’mnotsurethatIbuythatwater’salwaysdehydratingbecausewehavethisthingcalledosmoticpressure,right.Itdependswhat’sinthewater,becauseifthere’smorestuffinthewateronyourfacethaninthecells,thenit’sgoingtopullwateroutofthecells.Ifthere’smorestuffinthecellsthanoutside,that’sgoingtopullstuffoutofthecells,essentially,thedirtierorwaterhasmorethingsinitwillwanttoessentiallycreateapressuretomovetowardsthewaterthat’scleaner.

Trina: Right.Yeah,itgoesfromhightolowconcentration.

Dave: Yeah.

Trina: Backandforth,butthat’smorefromtheinside.Imeandrinkingwater,weknow,isextremelyimportantbutontheoutsidecleansingwithwaterisaboutreallyallyouneed.Yourskindoesn’tontheoutsideneedwater,liketheinsidesdo.

Dave: Allright,nowinordertonotlooklikeazombie,Iamsupposedtosmearoilonmyface.I’mdownwiththat.WhatelsecanIdo?Okay,Iwokeupinthemorning,I’mlike,“Ohh,”there’sbagsundermyeyes,I’mnotlookingsohappy.WhatdoIdo?

Trina: Eatagoodbreakfast,drinkalotofwater,andthere’ssomeofmyproductsthatI’veputtogetherareanti-inflammatory.Theyhaveallthenutrientsinthem.EverytimeIusemyBeyondSerum,it’sgotsomanygoodthingsinit.Itautomaticallygivesmealittlebitofaglowandit’stheingredients,it’sthethingsthatyou’reusing.Ifyou’refeedingyourskingoodthingsonadailybasis,you’renotreallygoingtonoticethoseupsanddownsasmuch.

Dave: Okay,soeat,stayhydrated,andmaybeuseaserumthingandgetsomeoilonyourskin.

Trina: Yeah,Ithinkserumsareagoodqualitymoisturizerthatdoesn’tcontainwater,tryit.Itmakesahugedifference.Serumsareawesome.Iloveusingthem,especiallyatnightbecausethey’rereallyconcentratedandthenutrientsarejust…Whileyou’resleeping,yourcellscanjustabsorbthatallin.Theydon’thavetobetryingtofightanythingelseoff,you’rejustsleeping,you’reregenerating.

Dave: It’sokayifthelabelsaysaquainsteadofwater,right?

Trina: No.

Dave: Ialwaysnoticethatonlabels.I’mlike,“Becauseit’sskincare,whydouseSpanishorFrenchforwater?”Actually,that’snotFrenchbutaqua,what…Okay,anyway,thatjustmakesmelaugh.Marketingismarketing.

Trina: Yeah,it’samarketingploybut,no,it’snotokay.

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Dave: Fancywater,addazerotothepricetag,therewego.

Trina: That’sright.

Dave: Allright,nowlet’ssayit’snotadisaster,infact,tellmewhatyoudoforyourskineveryday.Youwakeupandwhatdoyoudo?

Trina: IwakeupandsometimesIdon’tevenwashmyface.ItjustdependshowIfeel,sometimesthenaturaloilsthatyourbodycreatesismoreprotectivethanwashingitevenwithaprotectivesoap.SometimesI’lljustputalittlebitofthe…OneofmyserumsthatIusuallyuse,theBeyond,themoisturizerI’lluseinthemorning,sotheBeyondmoisturizerandthat’saboutit.AlotoftimesIdon’tevenwearmakeupanymorebecausemyskinhasreally…Itreallylooksreallygood.

I’m47todayandmyskinhasreallyneverlookedbetter.10yearsago,Iwouldn’tgoadaywithoutmakeup.Iwouldn’tgoanywherewithoutmakeupandtoday,Irarelywearmakeup,unlessI’mdoingavideoorintervieworsomethinglikethat.

Onadailybasis,Idon’t,sothat’sreallyaboutit.I’llputalittlebitofoilandthenmiddayImightspritzmyfaceandputalittlebitmoreoil,withatonerIspritzit,andthenintheeveningI’llwashmyface.SometimesI’lldoafacemask.SometimesI’lldo…IhaveaFireandIcefacetreatmentsystemthatusesthecayennepepper…Theorybehinditagaintoincreasebloodflowandthenit’satwostep…

Theicehasmentholinittohelpcoolandincreasethenumberofnutrients,sincethebloodflowwillbetherefromthefireandIgotobedandyou’vegottogeteighthoursofsleep.Haveto…Myhusbandjust…

Dave: Ithoughtthatpeoplewhosleepeighthoursanightdiemorethanpeoplewhosleepsixandahalfhoursanight.

Trina: Yeah,buttheylookbetterwhenthey’redead.MyhusbandjustgotthisdevicecalledBeddit.Haveyouheardofthat?

Dave: Oh,yeah,I’vehadthemforaverylongtime,yeah.

Trina: Yeah,haveyouhadone?Yeah,andsoI’mnowobsessedwithhowwellIsleepandlastnightIdidnotsleepwellandit’sbotheringmebutIthinkIknowwhathappened.IstarteddoingthisnewMeditationMuse…You’vemetGaiam,yeah.

Dave: Yeah,IthinkIhavenumbernine,theninthMuseofftheassemblylineIhave.

Trina: Oh,oh,really,oh.

Dave: Yeah.

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Trina: Ijustmetherthispastweekend,she’samazing.

Dave: She’sgreat,yeah.

Trina: Yeah,Josh,myhusbandhadthedevice,sowhenIgothome,I’mlike,“Ihavetousethat.”Itputme…Idon’tknowwhathappenedbutImeditated,wenttobed,andmybrainwassoalivethatIcouldn’tfallasleep.Isaid,“Idon’tthinkIcandothis.”

Dave: Someformsofneurofeedbackcantotallymakeithardtosleep.

Trina: Yeah.

Dave: Yeah.

Trina: ItwasreallycoolbutIwaslike,“Thisisn’tgood,it’soneo’clockinthemorning.I’vegottogotobed.”Anyway,I’mgoingtotryanddomymeditationinthemorningnowinsteadofintheevenings.

Dave: Yeah,youcanchange.IthinktheMusehassomesettingsyoucanchange,aswell,likewhatyou’retargetingandyoucanalsojustchangewhatyoudoduringthemeditation,evenifyou’restillgettingaMusescorebutit’sverycomplex.Iknowsomepeoplewho’vedonepoorqualityneurofeedbackwhoactuallycouldn’tsleepformonthsafterwards.

Trina: Oh,wow.

Dave: Theirsleepqualitywentfromamazingto,“I’mazombieandIdon’tknowwhy,”anditactuallytookmore,veryspecializedneurofeedbacktotunethatsoit’sadoubleedgedswordbutI’mstokedthatbeforeyoujustmeditateandhavenoideaifitwasworkingandnowyou’relike,“Oh,Igotascore,”andIthinkthat’sverymeaningful.

Trina: Thatiswhatissocoolisthatyougettoseeexactlyhowyoudidandhowmanybirdsyougot.LastnightIhadatonofbirds,IthinkIhad29birdswhichmightnotbemuchforsomepeoplebut,forme,thatwasalot,becausethedaybefore,Igotzerobirdswhichwasdevastating.

Dave: You’rebasicallylearninghowtohavemorecontrolofyourbrain.

Trina: Yeah.

Dave: Whenyoulearnthat,somethingelseisgoingtohappen.You’regoingtorealizethatwhatyouateandwhatyousmearonyourskinactually,allofthosehaveanimpactonyourabilitytocontrolyourbrain.Thatwholebiohackingchangedtheenvironmentaroundyousothatyouhavemorecontrolofyourbiology.

Youhavecellularcontrol,youhavehormonalcontrol.Youhaveelectricalandmagneticcontrolandyouhavecontrolofwhat’sgoingoninyourheadwhichispsychologicalandemotionalandspiritual.Allofthosearecontrollayersyoucanhacksoyou’rejustgainingmoreawarenessof

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thosesojustkeepgettingthebird.

Trina: Yes,Ican’twait.I’mgoingtodoitagaintoday,assoonaswe’redone,I’mgoingtogodomy…soIdon’tinterruptmysleeptonight,becauseIneedtogetit.

Dave: Yeah,sleepis…

Trina: BecauseI’vegotagoodscoreinBeddit.EverythingisgivingmemyfeedbacknowsoI’mintunemoretowhatI’mdoingandhowit’saffectingme,whichissocool.

Dave: Yeah,theideaofgettingareallygoodqualityofsleepscoreisamazing.IhadtheBedditCommercial,CoachEditionforalongtime,thathookedintoanEthernetport,sotherewasnowBluetooth,andthatwasreallycool.Imissthatone.IhavetheBluetoothonenowbutIdon’talwayssleepwithBluetoothon.IhaveconcernsaboutcontinuousBluetoothallnightlong.IwilldoitwhenI’mtestingsomething.

Trina: Right.

Dave: IevenusedtousetheZO,whichwastheoriginaloneyearsagowhenIfirststartedbloggingandsamething,okay,Ihaveaheadbandon.It’slikereallygettingallthoseEEGdatabutIdon’twanttocookmyheadsoItrytouseitinconcentratedburstsbutnotallthetimeandI’mhopingthatBedditcomesoutwithonethatallowsmetoplugitintothewallsoIdon’thavetohavearadiosignalnexttomysleepallthetime.

Trina: Right,right.

Dave: Awesome.Wedidn’tgettoomuchintoyourbookwhichisprobablymymistakehere.Ishouldhavetalkedmoreaboutthat.Willyoutellmealittlebitaboutwhyyouwroteawholebookonthisstuff?Imeangrantedyouhaveaskincareproductscompanysopeoplewritebooksbecausetheyknowaboutasubject,theycareenoughaboutittostartacompanyinsteadofjustgettingajobwhichisfranklyeasier.You’redoingthestuff,what’sinBeauty’sDirtySecretlike?Whyshouldpeoplepayattentiontoit?

Trina: Mygoalistoeducatepeople.Ofcourse,Ihaveabusiness,andit’sanalternativeforpeoplebutIreallywantpeopletounderstandwhat’sgoingoninsidethem.Thewayyoumetabolizeorwhathappensinsideyourbodywhenyouputproductsonyourskinthatcontaintoxins,yourbodymetabolizesitdifferent.Itgoesthroughadifferentprocessasopposedtowhenyouingestit.

Italkaboutthat.Igetmoreindepthwiththedifferentingredientsthatareharmful,whattheydotoyou.Ireallywantpeopletopayattentionandstartflippingtheirlabelsover,justflipitover.I’mgoingtocointhat.Justflipitoverandreadyouringredientsandifyoudon’tknowwhattheyare,there’sagreatwebsite,EWG,that…orThinkDirty,yeah.

Dave: Yeah,Isupportthem.IdonatetothemI’maworkinggroup.

Trina: Yes,they’reawesome.Theywilltellyouexactlyhowtoxicitisonalevelofzeroto10,aproduct

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oraningredient.Youcanlookupeitheror,soifyou’renotsurewhataningredientis,youcanlookthatup.Ifyouwanttolookuptheentireproductandseewhattheratingis,youcanlookthatup.Ijustreallywanttoincreaseawareness.

I’mdoingmorespeakingevents.Ithinkit’sreallyimportant.It’samazingthelightbulbsthatgooffwhenItalkbecausepeopleconnectdietwithhealthbuthaveyetnotmadethatconnectionwithskincare.It’scomingalongandespeciallywiththePaleomovement,thathasbroughtittotheforefrontevenfaster,butforalotofpeople,they’restillnot…Thatconnectionhasn’tbeenmadeandIreally,really…That’smymission.Ireallywanttoeducatepeople.

I’maNurseandI’vealwayswantedtohelppeople,that’swhyIwentintonursingsomywaytogivebackinthistypeofsetting,andabusinesssettingistoeducatepeople.Beyourspokesperson,letyouknowexactlywhat’sgoingonandthatway,youcanmakeyourchoice.Youcanmakeityourself,youcan…Youcandoalotofdifferentthingsbutyoudon’thavetocontaminateyourbodyifyoudon’twantto.

Dave: Okay,whereareyougoingtotakePrimalLifeOrganics?You’vegotacoollineofbeautyproductsandthingslikethatandwhatareyougoingtodonext?

Trina: Oh,I’vegotlotsofideas.IhaveatonofproductsthatIhaven’tevenreleasedyetthatI’vemadebutthere’sanideatodo…Branchitoutintosomethingevenmore,likepossiblyjewelryorclothing,somethingalongthoselines.I’marealfashiongirl.Ilovetojustberealcleanandpure.I’mnotreallyahighmaintenancegirlbutIlikehighmaintenancehealth.Idon’tknow.Thesky’sthelimit.

I’vegotlotsofideas.Ihaveagreatsupportofnetworkofinmyfamily,myhusband,mykidsareamazingatbringingupideas.Imightevendoapetline.Idon’tknow.I’vegotapet…Abunchofpets,IhavedogsandcatsandofcourseIusemyproductsonthembutIwouldn’tevenmindmakingthingsforthem,that’sspecificforanimalsbecauseIthinkthat’salsoveryimportantandIdon’tknow.Sky’sthelimit,sky’sthelimit.

Dave: Awesome.Ihaveaquestionforyouthenandit’sthefinalquestionthathasbeenoneveryepisodeofBulletproofRadioandthatis,givenallthestuffthatyouknow,allthisthatyou’veexperienced,ifsomeonecametoyoutomorrowandsaid,“I’mgoingtoperformbetterateverysinglethingthatIdo.WhatshouldIdotokickmoreasseverysingleday?”Threemostimportantthings?

Trina: Eat,eatnatural.Eatrealfood,realfood.

Dave: Okay.

Trina: Isayithastohavearelationshipwithdirt,soithastoeithergrowfromthedirt.Ithastoeatthedirtorthegrassthatgrewinthedirtorformyskincare,Isaythatitcanbethedirtitself.Youdon’treallywanttoeatthedirtbut…

Sleep,getsomegoodsleep,seventoeighthoursadayandmeditate.I’mlearningthatthe

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powerisinyourmindanditrejuvenatesyouwaymorethanyouknow.

Dave: Beautiful.Eat,sleep,andmeditate.Verysageadvice.TrinaFelber,wherecanpeoplefindoutmoreaboutyourcompanyandyourbook?

Trina: PrimalLifeOrganicsiswheremybusinessis.Ihaveablog.I’mgoingtohaveanewblogcomingoutprettysooncalledthe“HealthyMe,”whichisgoingtobemorethanjustskincarebecauseIamwaymorethanjustskincare.Iamallaboutthehealthylifestylesoit’sgoingtobealotaboutthethingsthatIdotokeepmyselfhealthy.Skincareisjustafacetofthat.

TheycanfindmybookonAmazonorBarnesandNobleandTwitter.I’monTwitteratPrimallifeorg.Instagramisabigoneforme,PrimallifeorandFacebook,PrimalLifeOrganicssotheycanfindmethereandI’mgoingtohavespecialthatI’mgoingtobesendingyouguys,forthelisteners,ofmyproducts.Ihaveastartedpackage.Ifanyone’sinterestedbecauseIknowskincare,forme,itwasoverwhelmingwhenyoustarttolookattheskincare,I’mgoingtogivea50%codeorofferforpeoplethatareinterestedbecauseitcontainsthethingsthatarereallyimportanttostartwith.

Dave: Cool.Thankyouverymuch.Haveanawesomeday.

Trina: Thanks,Dave,youtoo.

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