N«Wembet2S,l931 . OOMMONS DEBATES 1)24.S

&CCtetal')' cdl us wbco I wiU be told wbo Jn the Cauditn Tramport Com.misaioo U geutng free gravy from Air:' Cauda, aod why1

Mr. s.Lth: Madam Spcalcet, I rclttiod the hoa_ member that this ques1ion was oo the Order Paper durltiJ the entire len,ith of the Clart JOVetnmeal and ,.,., not allSweted at that time. In r«poo&e to the boo. member's inquiry, I would say -· S.•e ka.. Me..a.tn: Oh, oh!

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Tll~ CtNuliJutWn

GOVERNMENT ORDERS

THE COto.'SnnmoN

R.ESOWTION kf.SPI!CJ1NO COIIo"STfTUTION ACT, 1?81

The House resumed. from Thcsday, Nowmb« 24. ()()(tSider­ation oithe motion C>l Mr. Chretien:

13246 COMMONS DEBATES Nqvember 25, 1981

1114! Con.tlituJion

THAT. WHEREAS in the pas.t terta.in amendments to the Const itution or Canada have been made by the P.irliament or the United Kingdom at the request and with the consc:ot or Canada: s

AND WHERSAS it is in aCCOfd with the status or Canada as an independent state: that Canadians: be able to amend their Con­still.ation in Canada in all respect~

AND WHEREAS it is also desirable to 10 provide: in the Constitution of Canada for the: rewgnition of certain fundamental rights and frccdoms and to make ocher amend· ments to that Connitution:

CONSJDiiRANT: que le Padement du Royaume·Uni a modi:ftC 1 plU$icurs ~'(prises la Constitution du Canada a la demande et avee le c:onstn· temem de. celui.Q: S

que, de par fe statut d'Etat indepcndant du Canada, il est l~gitime que les Canadicns aient tout pouvoir pour modiftc:r lwr Constitution au Canada;

qu' il CS1 sou.haitable d'in.scrirc: dans la 10 C00$1itutjon du Canada la reconnalssance de cenains droits et libert.Cs fonda.mentaux ec d'y apporter d'autrC$ modifteations.

A respectful ;:~ddress: be present«! to Her 1 S il est PI"~ qu.e soit pr*nt~e re:spectueu-Majesty the Queen in the following words: sement 8 Sa Majcs:tC la Rc:ine l'adresse dont IS

la teneur suit :

To tbc: Queen's Most ExcelJent Majesty: Moe;t Gracious Sovereign:

A Sa Trd &.cetlente MajestC la Reinc:, Tr($ Grac:ieuse Souverainc: :

We, Your Majesty's loyal subjc.cts. the Noli$, mcmbrt'$ de La Chambrc: dell com· House or Commons ofCanad.- in Parli:tfnent 20 munes du Canada reuniscn Parkment. fidCics20 3$s.tmbled, rc:spectJuUy approach Your $ujets d~: Votre Majei:te, dem.:.ndons: ~spec-Majdty, fl!'q ucsting that you may graciowl>· tucuscment it Votre Tlis Cracieusc. Maj<stCde be: pleased 10 c::ause tO be !;aid bdore the bierl \'Ouloir raire dtposerdeV31U le Parlement Parliament of the United Kingdom a measure du Ro>•aume-Uni t.ID projetde loiainsi c:oncu : containing the N:ciutls and clauses: here.inaner 25 set fo-rth:

.. N~mbct 25. 1981 . COMMONS DE.BATES 132A1

Tfrmi~tiooo of ,o ....... lcfl$klt "" Can,da

An Act to give effect to a request b)l the· Senate and House of Commons o( Canada

Thr Cmwilulion ANNEXE A-SCHEDUlE A

Loi donnant suite i une demaMt du Stn-at et d~ la Chambn: de~ communu du Canada

Sa TrCs Ex"llent~ Majc.stC. la Reine, Wbereas Canada bas requested and con· cOfl$idC:rant : 5

kntcd to tbe enactment of an Act o( the 5 qu'i la d~mande et avee le oonsenteme:nt Pa.rlia.mcnt of the United Kingdom to give du Canada. le Parlement du Royaum.e-Uni effect to the provisions hereinafter set forth est invitC a adopter une loi vW.nt A d.onncr and the Senate and the House of Commons effet aux dispositions inono6cs ci4 ap:rCs et of Canada in Parliament asscttlbled havt que le SCMt et la Chambre des communes 10 submitted :an address to Her Majesty 10 du Canada riunis en Parlemcnt O«ll ()R• requesting t:hat Her Mlijesty may graciously sent( unc adressc dro'landant i Sa TrCs be pleased to cause a Bill to be la.id befwe Gracieuse Majes.tt de bicn vouloir fairc the Parltam.ent of the United Kingdom for deposer devant le: ParJemcot du Royaume· that purpose. Uni un projet dt loi 1 ctlte fin. 15

Be: it the refore enacted by the Queen's I 5sur ('avis et du consentemcnt des Lords spiri· MOlSt Excellent Majesty, by and with the tucts et tempords et cks Communes I'Cunis advice and COO$Cnt of the Lords Spiritu.al en Parleme:nt, et par l'autorit~ de odui4 ci. and Temporal, and Commons, in this prC$cnt 6dicte: Parliamenl assembled, aiKI by the alnhority of the same. as follows: 20

I. The Constitution Act. /98/ set out in 1. La LDi COMtitutionMIJe de /981. ~non· 20~.••• Schedl,lle 8 ao this A~' if h~.!'~~)' ~.!'!A~«d for 9t~ ~ I"~JH'!~~~ ~. (:ft ~~91~ po9.r le Canada ~;-;,;· and sltall have the for« of faw in CAnada et y a f()r(:e de lol. Elle entrt en viaueur 1wn and shall ClOme into foroe as provided in that conformCment a ses dispositions. Act. 2S

l. No Ace of the Parliamenl or the United Kingdom pa:s:sed after the ConJtitution Act. 1981 comes into force s.ball c.xtcnd to Canada as p;art o-f its taw.

1. Les loi.s adopt&s r-r le Parleme:nt du c~!lun.t• Royaume-Uni aprCs l'cntrCc. en vig:ueur de la 25 c;ir:;:-,d~rk Lol C(HIJt/tutiOMtllt de 198/ ne font pes <:""'~ pa.nie du droit du Canada.

3. So far as it is not contained in Schedule 30 3. La partie de la "ersion fra~is.e de la 9, the f'rc.nc·b version of this Act is set out in prCscntc loi qui figure: 8 rannexe A a force Schedule A to cbis Act and has the same de loi au Canada au mlme titre que la 30 authority in Canada as the. English version version anglaisc conespondantc. the roof.

4. Thi$ A.ct may be cited a.s the Calf1Jdi135 4. Titre abrt36 de la pr6sente loi: Loi sur Ac:l, le CoMdo.

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CO~OiONS DEBATES November 25. 1981

Th.r Cmutitufitm

SCHEDULES

CONSTITUTION ACT. 198 1

PART I

(:ANA()IAN CHARTER OF RIQH'TS AND fRE.EOOMS

Whereas Canada is (Qunded upon princ:i· pies lh<U ~gnite the supremacy of GO<f and tbe rule or law:

Gruuonree of Rlgltt.t and Freedoms

ANNEXE 8

LOI CONS1'1TUTlONNilLLE DE 1981

Plt.RTIE I

CHARTE C'ANAPIENN6 OES DROITS £T LIBERTts

Attendu que le Canada est rondt sur des principes qui rt<:Ormaissenl la su~matie de Dieu et la primaute du droit :

Garlmt;e des dtofu et /lben;.r

J. The Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms guarantei:S the rights and (rei:• doms set out io it subject only to such reasonable limits prescribed by law as c:.1n be demonstrabl)' justified in a fret a nd de.OO· cratic socie-ty.

I. La Cllaru eonodimne de:t droit,f et OrWtul

s li'"rlifr 82r<inlil le~ droil$ et libt:t1Cs qui y 5 ~·: .. .sont CnoncCs. lis ne peuvent Cue rcst~ints que PM unc: rqle de droit, dans des limites qui soitnl raisonnabft$ et dont la jiJStilic.:uioo puisse se dCmontrer da.ns le cadre d'une soci~c~ fibre tt dtmocratique.. J 0

LiberllsjQndamentalet

1. Everyone has the fo!Jowing fu"damel'l· 10 l. Chacun a Jes l ibcrt(.s fondamenta les caJ freedom&: suivantcs:

(o) freedom of conscience a nd religion~ a) Jibcrte de Coti.S(:ience et de religion; (b) freedom of 1hoogh1, belief, opiniOI\ b) libeni de ptnsee, de c:royanct, d 'opi· and expression. including freedom of the nion et d·expression, y oompris la libcrt( 15 press and other media of oommunicatioo: 15 de la presse ct des auttes moyens de (c) freedom of peaceful assembly: aDd communication; (d) fr«dom of associ;Uion. c) libertt de rtunion pacifique;

tl) libertC d'association.

Democratic Rights JJroits d1mrxratiquu

l.ibc:ol~ f«od.-on ~ln

3. E\·ery citizen or Canada has. tht rig.ht to 3. Tout citO)'tn canadien a le droit de vote-20 l)r..,ic,

"'ote in an e lection of members of the House cl est Cljgible aux eJections ICgistatives fCdC· :.~~~q. eN Commons or of a legisl;u.jve assembly and 20 rales ou prc:winciale:;. to be qualified for membership there in.

4. (I) No Hoose of Comm<ltiS ;a_nd no 4. (I) Le mand3c ms.ximal de la Chambrc M.o~obt ma.:>!Qll d(!j;

legislative assembly shall continue for longe<r des communes et des a$Semblees ICgislatives a~oefl'lblk:l t h..:tn five. years from che date fixed forth< est de cinq ans :1 compter de la date rixCe-25 !(turn of the writs at a gener.1l election of its 25 pOur Je retour des brefs reJ~tifs aux ~lcctions members. • .. .._ generales correspondantes.

(2) In time of real or apprehended war, (2) le mand<"H de la Chambre des commu· inv;uion or insurrection, a House of Corn- nes ou oelui d'une a.ssembiCe ligishnive peut mons may be continued by Parliament and a Ctre prolonge respecti~·emr-nt par le Parle· 30 h:tislative 3;S$<:mbly may be <:ontinued b)' the 30 ment ou par la JCsislaturc en ques-tion au· legislature:. beyond live years if such con- del3 de cinq ans en cas de guerre. d'invasion tinu:1tion is not oppostd b)' the \'Old (I( mOre OU d'iosurrtetion, reelk:i ou apprChend<':c:s, than one-third of the members of the House pourvu que oette prolongation ne. fassc ~s

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or Commoos or •be lesi!Jative assembly. as the ..-asc ma y be.

Thl' COI?$1/.,tlliQ('.I

J'objel d'une opposition exprimCe par Ues voix de plus du tiers des dCpt!tCs de. la Chambrc dc:s communes uu de l'a$$embltc l(&islativt.

S. l'herc: shall be a sitting or P:lrlia mcnt aod or each Legislature oU leas-t c:moe every twetve months.

5. Le Parlemem et les l~g.islatures tien· ~~n(l!U<~!,O~• nent une se.tancc au mains une fo~ toll! les 5

Mobili1y Rights

6. (I) Every citizen of Canada has the right to enter, rema in in and lea\'C Canada.

5 douze. mois.

U~n~ de d rcufatiQn ~~ d'~tabUs.te~nJ

6. (I) Tout dtoyen canadien a le droit de demeurer au Qlnada. d')• cntrcr (IU d•en Sortir.

(2) E\·ery citizen or Canada a od every (2) Tout eitoyen canadien et lOUte. pcr· IO~n~ person who h<'IS tbe Statu$ O( ii. pt.nnane.nt sonne ayant le Statui de rC!ident permanent <f"~l:)bhucmeott resident of Canada bas the right IO au Canada om le:. droit:

(a) to mO't't to aod ~ake up rt$idence in er) de se d~pl3cer dans tout any ptO\'ii'ICe; and d'Ctablir leur rCsideoce dans (b) to pursue. the gaining of a livelihood in \'ince;

le po\)'$ et toute pr~

:11'1)' provi_nce. b) de gagner leur vie dans toute province. 15

(3) The rights specified in sub6ec1io-n (2:) IS (;l) l es d roits mentionn6! :au para,graphe R~ri«-i(.! are subjec:t to (2) sont subordonni$:

(a) any JaYo'S or practic~ of general a) !'lUll Jois et ll$.'\g.es d'applicsti(N1 gtnC· application in force in a province other rale en vigueur daM une provin(e donn~e. 20 than thO!ie tbat d iscriminate among per· s'its n'Ctablissent entre ks personnes sons primarily on the lusi.s of proviooe-or 20 a ucum: distinction fond~ princip:tle•ncnl present o:r previous residence: and sur la prcwiooe de risidence antCrieure ou (b) a ny la'-''S providing for reasonable rcs.i· actueUc; dency r~uireme.ots as a q·ualificatfon for b) aux lois privoyant de juues conditions 25 the re<:eipt of publicly prO't•ided soc-ial de ri!lidenoe en \'Ue de !'obtention des ser· sen•ioes. 25 vices sociaux publics.

(4) Subs«tions (2) and (l) do not prc- (4) Lcs parngraphcs (2) et ( J) n·ont pas ~"~·---:.~* elude an)' Jaw, progr;)m or activity cha t bas pour objtl d'irtttrdire Its loi.s., program .nes ou ::;1'!: as its object. tbe ameliorat.ion in a province of activitCs destinCs a amCiiorcr. dans une pr<>- JO conditions of indi\'iduals in lhat ptO\'ina: who vince. la situation d"indi\•idus dtravorisl:s a re socia lly or economically disadvantaged if 30 50Cialement ou Cconomiquement. si le lllux the tale O( employment in tbat province is d'emploi dan.s la pt<Win<:e CS( infCrieur ai la below the 13te or cmploymen.t in Canada . n1oyenne 03tionale.

Legal Rlghu Garanlits jvridlquts

7. E~·eryonc has the right to life, libeny 7. Ctlacun a droit ::\ la vtc, 3 lnllbcnl: et :\)5Yc, l!'""c~• and security or th$> pe-rson and the right not la ~ritt. de sa person ne; il ne peut i!tre ~-t to be deprived theicof except in aooordsnoc35portC a tteinte :\ ce droit qu'cn conforOlitC with the principles or fundamen tal justice. a wee lcs principes de. j ustice fondamenlia lc~

8. Every()ne has the:: right to be secure against unreasonable $C3reh or seiZIIte·.

8. Chaeun a droit a la protection oontre r.,.,mc:~:- . tes fouilles, lcs perquisit-i()t'l$ ou Jes saisics 40::3~1$"'01lf 011 a busives.

9. Ever)-one has the riS-bt not to be arbi· 9. Chacun a droit ~ l\1 protection CQntrc la traril'y delOlined or imprLsoncd. 40detention oo l'emprtsonnement a rbitraires.

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TM Co~tilutfon 10.. E\•eryone bu the right on arrest or

deteotion (a) to be informed promptly of the rea· som.s lhercCor; (b) to retain and iM«ruct counsel ~·ilhout 5 delay and to be:: informed of that right: and (c) to have the- validity of tbe dettnt~o determined by way of habNS CtNpus and to be rdeascd if the detention is not lawfuL 10

11. Any person charged wilh ~n offence. has tile. tight

(a) to be informed without unreaso.nab.le­del!ay of the specific offence: (b) to be tried within a reasonable time: 15 (c) not to be compelled to be a wilntss in proeeedingll against that person in re11pect of the offence; (d) to be presumod innocent until l)ro\'en guUty a<:cordi.og to law in a fair and public 20 hearing by an independetU and iropartiaJ tribunal: (e) not to be denied reasonable b3il witb· out just cause; (/) except in the case of an offence under 25 military Jaw tried before a military tri· buoal, 10 the benefit of t rial by jury where the maxim um punishment for the offence is impri$0nrnent for five )'ears or a more severe punishment; 30 (g) not to be found auihy on ae<:04J.nt of any act or omtssion unless. at the time of the a~'t or omission. it oon$tituted an offence under Canadian <>r international l.aw Of was criminal according to the gcn- 35 eral principles of law reeogni.u d by the community of mition'• (Jr) if finally acquitted of t he offe--nce, l)()t to be tried for it again and. if finally found guilty and punished for the offence, not to40 be tried 0( punished for it again; and (I) if found guilty of the offence and if tbe punishment for the offence has been Yaricd between the lime of commis:s.ion and the time of K ntencing, to the bene-fit of the45 ICSSC1' pu.ni.<thment.

l t . Chacun a le droit, en cu d'arrcstation ou de d~teruion:

a) d'etre informe clans lcs plu.:s brefs deJais des motif!! de son arrcstation ou de sa ditention; 5 b) d'avoir recours sans dtlai a l'as.sistance d'un avocat et d'~tre il)(orm~-de « dtoit; c) de faire contr61er, par ha..bt'<U corpusA la ltg.."'llice de sa dCtentton et d'obten.ir, le-cas b.::hCant, sa liberation. J 0

11. Tout illCIJI~ a le droit : a) d'Ctre informC sans dCI.ai anormal de l'inJractiOtJ prtcise qu'o" lui reprochc: b) d'C.tre jugC dan.s uo dtJai r111isonnable: c) de. ne pa$ etre eontraint de ti:n)()ign.er 15 contre lui·mCme dans toote pourSuite intcntCe contre lui pour !'infraction qu'on lui reproche; d) d'etre presume innooent tant qu'il n'est pas dCclarC coupable, oonfocmCment 3 la 20 loi. par un tribunal ind(pend.-nt et impar• tiaJ a !"issue d"un pcocC:s: public et Cqui t;,tble~

e) de ne pa5 Ctre prh•C sans juste cause d"une mise en libertC assortie d 'un caution· 25 nement raisonnable.; f) sauf s'il s"agil d'une infrac• ion relevant de la justice milita.ire. de: benHicicr d'un prooCs 8\o"CC jury lor:;que la pcine maJtimale prCvue poor J'infractioo dont ;jJ est accuse 30 e:u un emprisonn~metll de c i1.q aos ou une peinc plus grave; g) de ne fXl$ ~en:: dCdarC coupable en raison d'une action ou d'une omission qui, au moment oU elle esc sur~·enu.e, ne oonsti· 3; tu.ait pas urw: infraction d'apr~ le droit interne du Canada oo le droit iinterna tional et n'av3it pas de-caractere crimincl d'sprC$ les principcs gCnCraux de droit reconnu$ par !'ensemble des nations: 40 Jr) d'une p.1rt de ne p;,ts C'1re jugC de nou· vcau pour une infraction dont il a etC dHinitivement acquittC, d'autr'C part de ne pas Ctre jugC ni puni de oooveau (X)Ur urtt: infrac-tion dont il a tte dbfioitivcment 45 d«ia.rC coupable et pvoi: i) de bt.nCficier de la pein.: la moins st,·~re, lorsque la ptinc.qui sa.nctionn' l'in­fraaion dont iJ est dCdate ooupable eit

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11. El•eryone has the right not to be sub­jected to at~y cruel and unusualtreatmer'll or punishment.

13. A witness who testifies in any ptooeed­ings has 1.he right not to have any i.ocrimiruu· ing evidence so gh•en used to incriminate I hat w·itness in any other proceedings, eKce-pt in a prosecution for perjury or for the giving of eontradM:-tory evidence.

The> CQIIJI(lutitm

modift6e entre le moment de la perpCua­tion de J'infra<:t ion ~t telui de la s.:ntence.

1:2. Chacun a droit a la protccdon oontre tous traitemcms oo peines erucls et inusitCs.

13. Chacun a droit 3 ce qu'aucun timoi-Sgnage incriminat~t qu' il donne ne .soit utjJis6

pou:r l'inc.riminc~ dam; d'autrc:s pi"()(;Cdure:s., $3d tors de poursuites pour parjure ou pour tCmoignagd c:ontradictoircs.

14i. A party or witness in any pr«tedingJ 10 J.C. La partie-ou le tCrnoin qui ne pcu\'ent JO •~~c•p~to: who does not understand or speak the lan- :s.uivre les procedures. soit parce q_u'its tie guage in which the prooeedin_gs are conduct- comprennent pas ou ne parlent pas la langue ed or who i.s deaf ha:s t he right to the assist- employee. soit par« q_u'il$ sont aueints de anoc:. of an interpreter. surditC, ont droit a l'assjstan<:e d'un inter-

prete. 15

Equality Rights Dro.fts 0 Ngrilit~

15. (I) E~·ery individua l is equ;~l before: 15 15. (I) la Joi ne fa it acceptjon de per· and under lhe law and has che ri.Shl tl) the $0nne et s'appliql.lc ~galcment a tous, et tous equal protection and equal benefit or the Law ont droit a la meme protection et au m~me without discrimi.nation and. in pa.nk.ular, ~ntlitt· de la loi, ind6pendamment de toote without djscrimination based on race. n.ati()n• discximjnation, notammetll des; di.scdmina- 20 al or et.hnic origin, colour, religion. sell, age20tions fondtes sur la ract-, J'origine natiofM.Ie or mental or physical disability. 011 ethnique. la couleur, la religion. le sexc,

l'iigc: ou les dtficiences mentlliC$ oo ph)'$j• ques.

~~~&·­la loi. 4ai..li <k bboe!"iw"'' p~«cctil•~ 41olt dcla loi

(2) Subsectjon (I) does not pr«Jude 3M)' (2) Le p(ltagnphe (I) n'a pGS pour ef(et 25Pro~mmudc I . . h ·-- . b' d" rd' I I . . . .L. fWIIICollCIII aw, program or aCIJVlty t at,.._ as tts o JeCt mte 1re es oi.S, programmes ou actt~'lh;~ -"'it

the ameliQtation or conditions of disadvan· dcstinCs a am~liorcr la situation d'indh•idus taged individuals Of groups including cbos.: 2So" dle groupe:s dUavori._ notammcnt du (a it t hat a re disadvantaged because of raoe. na- de leur race. de leur origin-c. n;ujonale ou t ional Ot ethnic origin, colour, reUaion, sell, ethnjque, de leur ooulcur, de leur religion, de JO age <>r mental or physical disability. leur .seJte, de leur age ou de teurs deficiences

mcn:talC$ ou physique$.

Ojjlcla/IAngvagco.t of Canadtt Longue1 ()jjlcl~lles du Canada

''· (I) Enalish and r:rench are the official 16. (I) Le (ran~ais et l'angla.is -SOI'Il le:s L;,n,•s 30 C . oiTio:irll~ ., .. l3.nguages or Canada .and have equality of langucs officiellcs du :ansda; ds ont un c.11.ftd.l

s tatus a nd equal rights and privileges as to statot et dt$ droiu et privil~ges ~gaux quant 35 their u.sc in aJJ institutions of the Parliament a Jcur usage dans les institutions du Parle· and gQ\'ernment of Canada. ment et du gouvcrncment du Canada.

(2) Engljsb and f rench are the official (2) U: fn1n~ais et l'anslai!l sont Jes languCll t,su~t~~w oftki~d•

languages of New Brunswick and have35ofi~eielles du Nouvc:au-Brunswick; il$ Ol'lt un Nou•"C'>11J• equality of 5tatus and equal rights ;uld ptiYi~ s~tut et des droit$ et privileges Cgaux quant 40 B·~~-~k leges as to t heir use in all iolltitutiOilll of the a leur usage datl.s les iBSti1utiOfl$ de la LEgis-

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'Tht- Comtltution legislature and government ol New Bruns~ 'A' id:.

lacure e1 du got.l\'ernemeot du Nou,·eau­Brunswfck.

(J) Nothing in this Charter limiLS the (J) l..'l pr~sente chattc ne limitc. pas le :Juthorily or ~.rliamcnt or a legisi;Hure h) pouvoir du Parlemenl et des I(Sisl~tures de advance the equa lity o( status or use o{ Eng- 5 famris(--r la progression •;ers I'CgalitC de 5 li.sh and Frcoch. statui ou d'usasc du fra~is et de l'angla is.

17. (I) EveryOfiC has the right to use En&• 17. (I) Cbacun a le droit d'employer le lisb ur French in any debates and otber rrnn\Sis ou l'anglais dans fQ dCbats et t ra-pmc04:dings of Patliamcnt. vauK du Parlem.::nt.

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(2) Everyone has the risht 10 use EngljsbiO (2) Chacun a le droit d'employer le fran-IOT~·~u"lcb or French in any debales and other proceed- ~ais ou l'anglais dons ies d6bats et t nn•aUJ~. de .~~:~·:;o:o.~ .. ing.s or cbc legislature. or New 8 run$wick. l:a Ug_islouure du NOU\'t3U·Brunswick. fltllllf ... i<fo;

18. ( I) Tbe $tatuces, recol'ds and journals 18. (I) Les lois. l~ archh·es. lcs comfM<:$ of Parliament shall be printed and published. rendus et lcs proc(:s;.,'tfbau.x du P..:trlement ln English and Fren~h and both language IS sont imprimts et publiCs en (ran~ is et en 15 versions a re equ.ally authoritati,·e. ang:Jaiil, les deux versions des loi$ ayant Cga·

lcment foroe de lui et cclles des a ut.res docu· me.rus ayant m~ me val<:ur.

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(2) Tbe sta u.Jtes, rcoords and journals of (2) Les lois. les ;~rchivcs. Jes comptes O·"'~":""' ~"~ tbe legisla ture of New Brunswick shall be: rc:n.dus C·t les pi'OI.:Cs·verbaux de la U g,isla · 20~' .. 'N~:"c!~:c printed and published in El'lg_lish aod FretK:h cure du Nouvcau·Brunswiek sont imprimC!i ti•MIIf"'od: Md both laosuage ' 'er.sions are equallr 20et publi~ en fr.an~a is et eo angl.ai$, Jes deux authoritative. ~·ersions des fois ayant Cgalcmcnt force de kli

Cl ctUes des autres documents :t)'ant mCme valeur. 25

19. (l) Either English or French may be J9. (I) Chacun a le droit d'employer le used by a.ny person in, Of in any pleading in fr<'.n~ts ou l'ang.l:ti!i dans toutes lc:s affaires or prooes11 issuing from, any cou.rt established dont .sont saisis les tribun.aux ~tabtis l")r le by Parliament. 2.5 Psrlcment et dan:; tous Jes actcs de procedure

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(2) Either English or f rench may be used by any person in, or i.n any pleading in or process jssuing from. any eourt or New Brunswick.

(2) Chacun a f.: dN>il d'employcr le fran­~ais ou l'anglais dans toutes Jcs aJfaires dont soot sait is lt$ tribun.aux du Nou,•e.au-Bruns­wick et dans tous les actes de pf'<Xh:Jure qui en dtC041h~l'lt. 35

20. (I) Any member of tbe publ~ in JO U), (I) Le public ;~ , :tu C:tn.:tda . droit :i Canada has tbe right tu communicate with, l'emploi du fran~is ou de l'anglais pour and ro receive available servioe3 from, any comrnul\tquer :u•ec le siCge ou radministra· head or central office of an institution of the t ion oentrale des intllituUQ-ns du PMicment ou

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Parliament Or g't)Vcrnmcnt of Canada in Eng· du gouvernement du Canada ou pOur en 40 Usb or fNncb, and has tbe same right with 35 recevotr res services~ il a le meme droit il respect to any other ofrtce o{ any sucb ins.ti- I'Cgard de tout autre bureau de ees institu· tution wh.::rc ti()ns I~ oil, scion Jc cas :

(a) there i& a significant dema nd for corn- a) l'emploi d'u frun~ais ()U de l'<lllgla is fait municm.ions with and servi~ from that l'objct d ·unc-demande importante; 45 ()flict io s-ucb lan&uage: or 40 b) 1•empJoi du fra~is et de J'anglais se

justifie par la vocation du bureuu.

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(b) due to the nature of the office, it is reasonable that communi~atioos wi1b and $C-1V~ rrom that office be avaiJable in both Engtisb and French.

'"'* CMwitution

(l ) Any member of cbc P\lbUc in New 5 (2) Le- public a , au Nouveau·Brun$widc., Brunswit.k has the right to communicate droit 8 l 'emploi du fransajs ou de J'angla.,ts with, a.(ld to receive. avail:tble servi«$ from, pour communiquer avec tout bureau des ins-

1 )25)

('ommo,uliat• lion• «Ill~ la ~lti~t lt1 iM1lilv1Nn' du Now-t'IIU• <'lny office of an institution of the legislature titutions de la ICgislature: ou dv soove:rne·

or government of New Brun!lwiek in English me.nt ou pour en rttevoir les services. 5 ...... , .. o<:l

or French. 10

ll. Nothing in sections 16 to 20 a brogates 21. Les articles 16 a 20 n'C)nt pas pour or derogateS! from any right, privilege or effet. en cc: qui a trait ti la Jangue fransaisc obljgatic>n with respect to the English and oo anglaise ou A ces deux langues, de porter French la.nguages, or either of them, tbat atteintc a ux droits, priviJCges ou obligations exist$ or is continued by virtue of ~n)' other IS qui e...iste:tlt ou soot maintenus aux tcrmes 10 provision of the Const itution of Canada. d'une autre. disposition de la Constitution du

Canada.

21. Nothing in sections 16 to ZO abrogates Zl. Les artides 16 ;} 20 n'ont p3s pour or derogau::s from any legal or c;\IStomary effet de porter atteinte aux droits et priviiC~ right or privilege acquired or enjoyed either ges. anttrieurs ou pouCrieurs 8 rentrOe en I 5 befote or after tbe oomjng into fOfCe of this .20,·igueur dt la pr~nte ~harte et d6coulant de Charter \\'itb respec-t to any la nguage tbat is la Joi oo de La coutumc. des langues autre:S not Engli.sh or French. que. le fra.n~ais ou l'anglais.

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23. {I) Citi~ens of Canada 23. ( I) le$ eitoycn11 canadiens: •"'"P" , • o'JMIIt,Ul'tilllfl

(o) whose first language learned and :s t.ill o) dont la l)fem1Cre Jangue appnse et 20 understood is cha t of the. English or French 25 encore comprise est oelle de la miooritC linguistic minority population of tM prov· fr<'tncopbone ou anglopbone de la province i.ncc in which they reside, or oU ils rCsident, (b) who have received their primary b) qui ont r~u leur instruction, au nio,·cau s~hool instruction in Canada in Englillh or primaire, en (ransais ou en anglais :tu 25 Frenc.b and reside in a pr:o\'ince where the 30 Canada et qui rtsident dans une pnwince Jang1,13ge in ~A'hicb they rtceiYed that oU la langue dans laque:lle ils ont re:~u ceue ins truct ion is the language of the English instruction est celle de la minoritC (ranOO+ Of French lit~guistic minority popvl<'ttton of phMe ov anglophOfle. de la province, the prO\'inc.'e. oot. dans l'uo ou !'autre cas, le droit d•y fa ire 30

have the right to have. their chiJd rcn receive 35 instruire leur$ en rants. aux nivcaux primaire prima ry, an,\1 mondary school irutruetion in et scconda ire. dan.s <:c:tte lan.sue. tba t language in that province.

(2) Citizens of Canada of whom any child (2) Les citoyens eanadiens doni un enfant Cil .. linvitt

ha · d · • • • • · • · d'unploicle ll. s reecwe or 1S rtce:1v1ng pnrnary or a r~u ou rt-;ott son Ul$U'\ICt1on, a u n1veau 1HI"'~

secondary sc-hool instruct ion in English or 40 prim.aire ou serondaire, en fran~is ou en 3$d'i~··~""' French in Ca(l.ada, ha~. the right to have all anglais au Canada ont le. droit de fa irc ins· their children receive primary and .se<;ondary t ruire tou.s le.urs enfants. aux niveaux pri· school instruction in the same language. maire et seeonda ire, dans la languc de octte

i.ns.truction.

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.. COMMONS DEBATES NV~-embcr 2$. 1981

Th~ Crirutltutlmo

(J) The righ1 <>r t~itiz~-ns or Canada under sub$cclions (I) 1.1nd (! )to h:m:. the-ir children rocclve ptillliHY :1nd seoondary school instrueti()n in 1bc lm'lguagc of the English or French linguastic minority popula~ion of a pr<win~e

(3) Le droit rcc,:onnu au" <itoye.ns eana· diens par les paragraphes ( l ) et (2) de faire instruire lturs enfants, ~u~ nivcaux prima ire cl socondaire. dans la langue de la mjnoritC

5 francopbone ou Mg1opbooe d'une ptO\•ince : 5 a) s'exerce partout dans la pt()\•in« oU Je nomb~ de..c: enfants des citO)'ens qui ont cc droit est suffisant pO\Ir justifier a leur e.ndroit la preslation, sur les fonds public.il,

(o) I'I'J'IIic:$ whc--re~·c-r in the pl'(lvioce th.e­IIU!Ilt~r of children of citizens wbo ba\·e • ucl' ;l right is sufficient to "'"'arrant the JlrfO"risiOO tO them ()VI or publ.ie funds or 10 minority language instruct ion: a nd

d{! l'ins,ructiOI) dans la .langue de lt't tO minuritC;

(b) i.ncludcs.. where the nl'mber or thoc;.e cbikJ:ren so warrants, the right tu have them recei\•c that innruction in minority language educational facilities provided 1 S out of public funds.

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b) coroprend, lorsque. le oombrc de ces enfants le jus t ifie, le droit de Its faire instruire dans des Clablissc~ments d'ensei· g.nement de la tninoritt littgt.Jistique finan· IS cC:s sur les ronds publics.

Rerours

lA. (I) Anyol'le whose righi.S or (r<:edoms, 14. ( I) Toute personAe. vict ime de viola· as guaranteed by this Charter. ba\•c: been t ion ou de negation des droii.S ou libert~ qui

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inrringed or denied may :tpi"IY to a court or lui $0nt g:trantis p:tr la prC:sentc charte. pc:ut competent jurisdic,ion to obtain such remedy 20s'adr<:sser a un tribuMI oom,Ue-nt pour obte· 20 as the court considers appropriate and just in nit Ja reparation que le tribuBal cstime OOn· the circumstan-ces. verwb1e ~~ juste- cu Cgard aux circonstances.

(2) Where, in proceedi113S under subSOC· (2) Lor.=;que, dans lule in11tance visCe au '·~~bilili tiOf'l (J), a court concludes that evidence was paratraphe ( I), le t ribunal a ooncfo que des =:i* obtained in a msnner th..'l.t i.ofcioged or 25 ~l~mcms de preovc. om CtC obtc.nus duns des 25 ne.."'"'.•i?R" de-nied any ri_ghts or freedoms g,uarantetd by conditions qui ponent <ttteinte 3UX droits ou ~=~:::,.~1 ... thjs Charter, the evidence shall be excluded libcrtCs garantis par la prese.,tt charte, ces <kb J•sd~ ir it is establlsbed thou, baving reg.'l.rd to all ~lemcnts de. preuvc sont 6cartCs s'il est Ctabll. the cire:um.ttances, the admission of it in the eu Cgard aux cire<>nS1JnC«, que leur utilisa· proceedings would bring the adminisuatioo 30tion est susceptible de d&:onsidCrc:r l'admj- 30 or justice into disrepute. nils.tration de l.'l. justice.

General Dispositions gtnlral~s

25. The guarnntce in thi$ Clurter of eer- 25. Le fait que la prC:scnte charte garanth ta.in rights and freedoms shall not be con• cer~;~.in$ droit$ et libc(tl:s ne porte pas strucd so as to abrogate or derogate from an)' audnte aux droits ou libertCs - an-eenraux, aboriginal, treaty or other rights or rr~doms 35 i11sus de traitCs ou autres- des peuples 35 that pertain to th4.! aboriginal peopltli of autochtones du Cal'lada, oot3mment : Canada including a) a u.x droits ou libertCs reeunnus par la

(a) any rigbts or freedo-ms dun have bee!) Proclamation ro)'ale du 7 oetobrc 1763; rc::cognized 6y the Roynl Proclamation of b) a u.x droil.lS ou libertCs acquis par r~gJc-October ?, 1763; and 40 mcn1 de revc.nd,icat ions territ·oriales. 40 (b) any rights or frecdoms that may be acquired by the aboriginal people$ or Canad3 by wa)' of land claims seu lemetlt.

26. The guarantee in this Charter of cer· 26. Le fait que la p~sente charte ganntit tain rights s.nd frccdoms sh.:tll not be. con·45certai.ns droits et J ibert~ ne <:onstitue !X'S

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a.trued as denying the ellisteo~e of a ny other rights or froc:doms that exist in Canada.

27. This Charter shall be interpreted in a manner oonsistent with the preservation and enhancement of tlw:· muh iw hura l beritage of Canadians.

TM Constltdlkm ur1t nC.$<1tion de:s. autres droits ou llbcrt~ qui e-.istent au Canada.

21. Toute interpretation de la prCs.ente c.f\arte doit concorder &\'CC- l'objectif de J!f~

5 moU-voir k- m11intien et l;a valorisatiOn du pnt rimoine muhi<:ulturel dt:S Canadiens.

28. NQtwith!<tanding anything in this 28. lndtpendamment des autres disPQSi· £plilof4c

Charter. the rights and freedoms referred tO ti-ons de la prestnte chaf1e, les droits tl liber · f~--=:~;'b in it are guaranteed equally to male and t.:S qui y sont ment ionnCs soot garantis Cgde- .... .w-.,e. female. persons. I On'lent aux pc:rsonncs des deux sexes. l 0

' 29. Nothing in tbis Charter abrogates or 29. les dispositions de la prCsente (;harte derogates from any rights or privileges guar· oo portent pas aue.inte aux droits ou priviiC· antccd by or under the Constitution of ga garanti$ en \'trtu de W Constitution du Canada in respect o( de--nominational, sepa- Canada ooncernant les Ccold sCparCc$ et roue or disse-ntient $ChOOls. 15 at~tres ~ool~ confessionnell-tli. 15

30. A reference in this Charte-r to a prov· JO. Dans la prCse-11te cbane. les disposi· iooe C)1 h) the legisla tivt 3ssembly or te-gisla· ti >Ons q~,.~ i vi$ent lcs provinces. lc-ur ltgisla.turc. ture o{ a province shall be deemed to include oo leur -asst:mbl&. lt.glslati\'e visent ~gale· a rc ferenct to the Yu)(on Territory and the mC1lt le territoirc du Yukon, IC$ tc.rri toires du Northwest Territori t:S. Of to the. appropriatc.20Nord-Oue:st ou leurs 311tOritCs 1Ce,islatives20 legislative suthority thereof, as the case may compCtentes. be.

Jl. Nothing in this Charter exte-nds the lcgis l.ative powers of 3rl)' body 1)1 authority.

Application of Cha,ter

31. La prCsente charte n'Ciarg.it pas les co•n~tences !Cgisl3ti\•es de quclque Ofgil· ntsme oo autoritt. que <:e soit.

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32. (1) This Charter appli« 25 32. (I) La pr~et)te ~har1e s'a pplique: a) all Parlement et a u goll''ernement du Canado1, pour tous lcs domaines relevant

25 A JIPiihlio)a ok J

bc~t~ (a) to the Parliament and gove.-rnmcm of Can:1da in respect of~~~ nlaUcrs within the authority or Parliament including a ll mut­ters relating to chc Yukon Territory and NOrthwest Territories.; and 30

du Parlement, y compris c~~,~,o; qui oonccr­nent le territoire du Yukon et les territoi· res du Nord·Oue:st; 30

(b) to the legislature and go~·ernm~nt or b) 3 la ltgi.slature. et nu gouvernement de ei~Ch prO\·incc in respect of a ll matters ch3quc province, pour tous les domaines within the authority of the legislature. of re levant de. cette ICgislatur~. C3Ch ptM•ince.

(2) Notwiths tanding sU-bsoc-tion ( I). sec-- 35 (l) Par dt.rogation au paraarapll~ ( I), l'ar· ROI...-:t•on tion IS shall oot have effect until three-)'e&l'$ t ide 15 n'a d'effet que trois ans a prts l'en· 35 after t h.is s~tion ·Comes into force. t r« tn vig~,.~ eur d11 prt.se1u a rtkk

;)3. (l) Parliamtnt or the Jeoisl;u ,,re of a J3. ( I) Le Parlement ou l<1 ICgi:s.la ture D<~•tif•• J6r .;. llh-lltt.lii•n

province may expre:ssly declare in a n Act of d'une prO\'inot: pe11t adopte-r une loi 00 il est «ptel!Joe

J>arli:ament or of the- legislature, :t$ the. case 40~xprcssCmcnt dCc.JsrC. que celle.ci <Ju 11-nt de may be. tha t the Aet Or a. pro,•ision thereof se:s dispositions a effet indCpendamment 40 shall operate notwithstanding a provision d'une disposition donnCc. de !'article 2 ou des included in section 2 or sections 7 to IS of a rticles 7 :1 I S de-la prCscnte <:harte. this Charter.

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COMMONS DtillA TE$ November 2S, 1981

Th~ Con.~titwWn

(2) 1\n Aci or .:. (M'U\'isi~.>n of <1ft Act in rtspcel l)f which a declaration made undcr this $C:Ciilm is in eiY~t sbull ha,·c such opera· lion u~ it I''OUfd have btll for the-ptovis-ion of this Ch.:~rter referrtd to in che doclaration.

(J) A declaration made under subsec-tion ( J) shall oe.aae to have effect five years afcer it comes into force or on such eatlier date as. "'ay be $pecifitd in the declaration.

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(2) La loi ou la dispotiilion qui fa it l'objc-t d'unc: dC:d:aration conforme ao present article e-t en vigucur a l'effct qu'eJle aurait sauf la disposition en cause de la chartt.

(3) la dklaration vi$Ce au paragraphe ( I) ~ d\woir effet i la date qui y t$1 prtci~e ou. au plu.s ta rd. cinq aos apres soo tnt~e en vigueur.

Jte-ell.o<'~lflflfll (4) Parliament or a legislature. of a pr<W·IO (.-1) l,e P.:~rlemcnt ou urw:: l~gisl:tture peut N1.....-d:W

ince may tc:·enaet a declaration made under adopter de JKK~vto'l~o~ une d6claratiQn viJ.ee ;J.u lO..u.,.c~on

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subseccion (1). paragraphe (1).

(5) Subsection (J) appHes in respect of a re·cnactment m3dc. under subsection (4).

Citation

(S) Le paragraphe (3) $'3pp1ique 3 toute d~claration adopc« sou,s le rigime du pat<t· grnphc (4).

Titr~

U. Thi$ Part may be cited as the Canadi· ) 5 34. Titre de La prCs.entc partic : Chart~ I 5o Tit~ an Charter of Riglus and FuedomJ. to!Uldltnne du dro/u tlllb~rtls.

PART 11 PARTIE 11

~QUALIZ~TION AND REGIONAl DISPARIT IES f"tR£QUA TION I!T INI!OALJT£5 Rf:OIONALES

35. ( I) Witho11t altering the lesislative 35. ( I) Sous r~serve des compCtenoes E""'"""o:..s rcl~;ci& io

<tuthorit)' of Parliament or of the provincial Jegislath·es du Parlcment et des ICgishuures l'f~WdC'S legislatures, or the rights of any of them with et de leur droit de les exer<'er, le. Parlcment dl""s respect to I he· exercise of ttleir legislative 20ct les 16gistatures. a insi q11c les gouverne· 2(} authority, Parliament and the legislatures. ments f6dCr3l et prcwinciauk, s'cng-a.gcnt a; together with the government of Canada 3nd o) promouvoir l'~g3litC des chances de the prO\Iincial go\<ernment.s. are committed to tous lcs Canadiens dans la re<:hereht de

(a) promoting equal opponunitic:\ for the !cur bien·CUc-; well· being of Canadittns: 25 b) favoriSC-1' le dC,·cloppemtnt ~ooomique 25 (b) rurtbering economic development to pour rC:duire l'inigalltC des cham.:cs: reduce-disparity in opportunities: and c) fourni r :\ tous le\ Canadiens, :\ un (t ) providing t:.ssenli<'ll public services of niveau de qualitC acoeptable, 1es senices reasonable quality to all Canadians. publics essentiels.

' ~ . (2) Parliamciit and the government of30 (2) le Parlement et le goovememenl du 30 E"PJ«ne~r~

Canada are committed to the principfe of Canad3 prennent rengagement de prindpe ~~~blq making equaliuuion payments to ensure that de faire des paienlents dt ph~uation pro· pro,·incial governments have suJficient reve· prcs a donner aux gouvernements provin· nues to prO'I•ide reasonably comparable le\oels ciaux des rcvenu.s suffisanL\ pour les mettre of public s.ervi«$ at reasonably eomparable 35en mesurc d·a5surer les serviocs publics ~ un 35 Je,·el.s of taxation. niveau de qu3litt et de fiscalitC sensiblement

com parable$.

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PART llf

CONSTITt.I'TJONAl. CONFE.RP.NCA.

36.. ( I ) 1\ constinuiona l conference c»m· posed of the Prime Minister of Canada and the fir:;.1 minil!tel'$ of che pt()Yinees shall be convened by the Prime Minister of Canada within one )'e3r after this Part comes into force.

~ Ccm$tiwti<.>n PART1E Ill

CON~tR£N(:t;. CONS1TI'\ITIC)NNEJ.te

36. (1) Da.ns l'annCe suh·ant l'entrCe en vigueur de fa priscntc parti~ le premier rnini.stte du Canada coovoque une oonfC:rt nee­oonstitutionnelte rfunissant les premiers

$ ministrts provinci.aux. t l lui·m<.me.

(2) The conrcre.ooc connmed under sub- (l) Soot pJac~es a l'ordre du jour de Ja scctjon ( I) shall ha)'t included in its agenda oonfC~ence vi:sC:e au parag.nlphe (I) les. queS· a n item respecting corutitutional matters tions conslitutionneUes qui i nt~ressent dirtt· that direct!)' aff«1 tbe aboriginal peoples of LOtemenl les peuples autocbtonts du Canada.

J32$1

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Pani~r~uiof. .su 11<'~1'*" Utl'O:bi<JO'IH

CMada. including the identirtentjon and notamment la dCtermina tion et la dCfinition 10 definition or the rights o( tho$e people$ 10 be: des droit$ de CC$ peupfes :\ inscrire dan$ la included in the Constitution of canada, a nd Constitution du Canada. Le premier mininre the Prime Minister of Canada shall invite du Canada im•itc-!curs rep..C.scntants 8 parti· rcprcscnt;Uives or those peoples to participate I Sciper tiU:< tra.vau:< relatifs a ces qll tstions.. in lite disc.."USSions on tbat item.

(l) Tbe Primt Minister of Canada shall (3) Le premier mjnfstrc du Canada invite I 5P4nk;~~i:<-. invite elected reprl$Cnlatin~:s of tbe go'IC'm· des reprCsenlants t lus des guuvernements du ob ta••-ments of the Yukon Territory and the Notth· tcrri10itc du Yukon et des territoir<:ll du west Territories 10 PQrticip~·ne in the dilicus.- 20Nord.0uCSI ;\ participer aux tca,·au~ rt l<'l t ifs sions on an)' item on the agenda of the i toute question plactc.a rurdrc du jour de la conference convened uOOet substct ion (I) oonftrtnce vis~e au l);)tagrttphe (I) et qui, 20 tbat, in tbe opiniOn of the Prime Minister, seton lui, intC.n:$liC dircctement le territoire directly arfec.ts the Yukon l'erritory and the du Yukon et Its territoires du Nord·Oucst. Northwest Tenitories. 25

PART 1\'

PR0C£DUR.E f OR AMENDING CONSTITUTION O F Ci\NI'IDA

PARTI£! I\'

PROCEDURE DE MOOi flCATif)t'l DE l.A CONSTITUTION DU CANADA

37. ( I) An amcndmct~ t to tbe Constituti01l 37. ( I ) t..1 CortStitution dv Can<!drt pcut l'fwOd""' • ilom.i!t& or Canada may be made by prOClamation Ctre modifiie par prod.ama tiun du touvtr~ .-;no.ulon

issued by the Governor General undet the neur g~nCral sous le grand sccau du Canada. 25 Orcm Se:tl or c~wada where so authorized autorike ~ ta rois: by 30 a) p3r des tCsolutions du SCnat et de la

(a) I"C'iolutions or the Senate and HouSJe. or Chamlxc des communes~ Commons: a nd b) par dc:s rCsolutions des. assembl~es (b) resolutionll of the legislative. asscm· ltgisl:ttivcs d'au moins deux t icts dG pro· 30 blies of atle.'lSt tw<Hhirds of the pr<wlnQCS vinces dont J.-. population confonduc reprt-tha t havC. i6~he aggregate. according to35 sc-ntc .• scion le rcccnsc:ment gtnCral le plus lhe then la test general census, a t least fifty r.!oent ii l't poqve, au moins cinquante pour per ~nt of tht populaljon of all the cent de la population de toutes les, provinees. provinces. 35

(2) An llntcndm.trH made under :~ub$ectiOn (2) Une modification faitt confonn~nleiU r-hj•,.;,c,ompl( (I) that derogates from tbe legi.sla t i\·e40au patagraphe ( I) mais dCroga toire <i la powers, the. proprietary rights ar al)y other COOI~ten« ICgislative. aux droits de pro· rights Or priviJcges of the legislature or gov· prii tC ou a tous autrd dn>its Ou pril/ilte,es

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'1'ht Constlrutkm erflt'ncnt of 41 province shall require a resoJu· tion .supported by a majority of the members of each or the Senate. tbe House or Com­IT\Qn! and the legisla tive assemblies required under subsec-tion (I).

d'une ICgislature ou d'un gou,•ernc:mcnt pf()o vin.ciaJ u ige unc: rCsolution adoptt:e a la majoritC des sCnateurs, des dCputCs f6dCrau~ d des dCputes de chacune des asscmb!Ccs

S l~gislati,•es du nombte requjs de provinces. S (3) An amendment referred to in sub.scc- (J) l..a modification viste au parngrapbc: ~~~

tion (2) shall not ha,•e effect in a ~ovince (2) est sans eUet dans UriC province d0r1t Lhe legis~tivt assembly of which has l'assembiCe ICgi.slati\•e a. avant la prise de la expressed its diisent thcre.to by resc)lution proclamation. cxprimC son dCsacoord par une supported by~ maj<~rity of its members. prior JOrCsolution adoptee a la majoritC des di putCs, 10 to the issue of the proclamation to which the sauf si oette asscmbiCe. par risolut.ion igale-amendment rtlattll unless that lcgislati,·e mtnt adop•~e A la 1najoritC.. r'tvient sur son assembly. subsequently, by resolution sup- dC.sacoord et autorisc la mocjjrtcation. ported by a majority or it$ members, revokes its dissent and authQri:zes the amendment. 15

(4) A resolution of dissent made tor the purposes Q( subsoc..-tion (3) may be revoked at an)' time before: or after the issue of the proclamatiooto which it relates.

(4) La r&olutiofl de d~C«lrd vis6e au ~e.• parngraphe (3) pc:ut Ctre rCvoquCe a tout l Scte.:."""'" moment, ind~pc:ndamme.nt de la date de la proclamation a laquc:Ue elle se rapporte.

33. ( I) A proc:lam.a1ion shall not be. issued 20 38. ( J) La pt"OCiamation vis~c au paragra- RQIJio;:~;.," undef subsection 37'(1) b(forc the e~piration phe 37(1) ne pc::ut Ctre prise dans l'ann~e of one year (rom the adoption of the resolu- suivant !'adoption de la rCsolution 8 rorigine 20 tion initiating the ;unendmtnt procedure d~ la proddure de modification que si l'as­thert-under, unless the legislative assembly of scmbiCe !Cg.i.slath•e de chaque province a each pr~»·ince has previously adoptod ~'l tt~ 25 pr~lablemc:nt adopte une resolution d'agrt-lutioo or assent or dissent. ment ou de dCsaceord.

klem (2) A proclamation shall not be i$$ucd (2) la proclamation viste au PQragnphe25tclc:m under subsectiot'l 37(1) after the exp iration 37(l) ne pe.ut C-trc: prise quedans lestrois :uu of three years from the adoption of tbe reso- sui\•ant !'adoption de la ri:solutioa a rori.ginc. lution initiating the am~ndmenc procedurt-30dt la proclklure de 1oodification. thereunder.

c-..... n~tin• 39. Whert an amendment is made under 39. Le Canada rournit une jl'ste compe:n- ''"''"'-ltoa $Ub.\ecti<m 31( I\ that transfers pro.vinclal sat ion aux provinces auxquclles ne s'applique 30

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legislative powers relating to education or p.'l.S uoo modification fa ite conform~mcnt au other cultural matterS from prcwinciallc:g.ill--35parngrapbe 37(1) e1 relati\·e, en mati6-re fatum to Parliament. Canada shall provide d'Cducation ou dsns d'autrcs domaincs cultu-reasonablc cQmpen~tion to any pro\•iit~ce 10 rels, ;\ un transfert de compf:tences ltgislati-whicb •be amendment does not apply. \ 'C$ provinci.aks au Par1c:ment. 35

40. An amendme-nt to the ConstJtulion of <CO. Toute modificatiol1 de la COMtitution CModa in relali'.!fl to the rollowing matters 40du Canada portant S-Ur lcs quuti<IDl s.uivan• may be made by proclamation issued by the tes se f.,jt par prQCiam.ation du gouveroeur Gavemor General under 1he Gretlt Seal Q[ general &ous lt grand sceau du C;~nad~. aut~r Canada onJy where authorized by resolutions ris« par des resolutions du SCnat. de la 40 or t fte Senate and House of Commons :and of Chambre des commun-es et ck l'assembiCe I he lcgislath·e assembly Q[ each province: 451Cgi.slath•c de cbaquc: province ;

(a) the office or the. Queen, the Go·~-c-mor a) la charge de. Reine, ccl.le de gouvemcur Gc:ncrnl 3nd th~ Lieutenant GQve-rnO( or a general et ctUe de lieutemlnt·gOU\'erncur: prQvinee;

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(b) the rig.bt or a pro.,ince to a number or members in the HOU$t of Commoru not less than the number o( Senators by which the. province is entitled to be reptesented at the time this Part comes into force; (c) subjoct. to section 42, t.he use. or the­En$1ish or the French langu-age: (d) the composition of the Supreme C.ourt or Canada; 3nd (e) an amendment to this P;trt.

T1t-t Comii1111icm b) le droit d'une province d'a\·oir a la Chi~mbt'e des communes un nombre- de diputCs au moins Cga_l 8. celui des sinatCUD JXIt lesquels elle est habilit« a et re re.pli-

5 sentCe lot$ de l'entr6e eo vigueur de l3 S prtsente partie: c) sous r&erve de !'article 42, l'usage 4u fran~ais ou de J'angtai.s; d) la composition de- la Cour supreme du

10 Canada; I 0 t) la modifteation- de la pr&ente partie.

41. (I) An a mendment to the Constitution 41. (I) Toute modirteation de la Constilu· of Canada in relation to the following mat· tion du Canada portant sur lc:s qucstjons terS may be: made only in aooordan« witb suivantes se fa it conform~ment au ~ra.gra· subsoetion 37(1): phe 37(1) : 15

(d) the principle of proportionate IS .:t) le princlpe de la representation proper· rc:Pf"ClioCtllation o( the provinces in the tionneiJe des provinces a la Chambrt des Hou$C of Common$ prescribed by the. communes pttvu par la Constitution du ConsthutH>n or Canada; Canada; (b) tfle powers of the Senate and the b) les pouvoirs du Senat et Je mode de 20 method of sele«in& Se-nators: 20 stlection des ~n.ateurs: (c) the number of members by which a c) le nombre des Knateurs per lesquels proviooe. i5 entitled to be represented in the une ptO\•ince. est habilitCc: 8 Ctre rc:prCsen· Senate and the residence qualifications of tCe et les conditions de r~idet1ce qu~ils Senators; doi\'tnt remplir; 2S (d) subject to pamgmph 40(d), the 25 d) s<>us r<sem de l'alinf:l 40d). la Coor Supreme Court of Canada; supreme du Canada; (t) tbt extension of existing ptO\•inces into t') le ~uachc:ment aux provinces existan· th-e territories; and tes de tout ou pa.rtie des tc:rritoires: (/) notll•ithstandins any other la>A' or pf3e· f) par dtrogation i toute autre loi ou 30 ticc. the estabUsbrm:nt o( new provinoes, 30 usage. la cr~tion de provin-ces.

(2) Subscotiuos 37(2) to (4) do not apply (2) Leo paragraphcs 31(2) i (4) ne s'appli· in respect of amendments in relation to mat· quent pas aux questions mentionnCes au tcrs re ferred to in subsection (J). ~ragrapbe (1 ).

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A~n.<itntn• or 42. An amendment to the Constitution of 41. le$ dhspositioos de la Cons-titution d u 35 ~~'<;..lion i ~~:':, -.c Canada in relation to any provision lhat 35 Canada applicabtes 8 ccrtainc::s provincc::s c:,tjnt$ M f!'-"_.11 applie:s to one or more, but not a ll. provinces. se.utemenl ne peuvent ftre modiftbes que par pro•in($ IIAA""

11''1u including proclamation du gouvcrneur gCn&al sous le

(a) a.ny alter.ujon to boundaries between grand ~au du Canada, autorisCc par des provinccs,'and rCSoiUtiOA$ d!J S6n.at. de ~~ c.h~mb~c des40 (b) any amendment to any provision that 40communcs ~~ de I aMemblce leg1~latwe ~e relates to cbe use of the English Or the chaQ,ue P!~'nce CO't\C(t~. tc present alll•· French language within a province, cle' appl~ue ootamment , . •

m3Y be IM de- by proclamation issued by the a) ~ux chan~e~ts du trace des froot•C· 4 Governor General under the G reat ScaJ or res mterprovtne•ale$; 5

Canada only where so authorir.cd by rcsolu- 45 b) aux modifieation.s des dispositions ((la· tjons o f the Senate and Hou5e of Commons ch·es a l'usase du fra~is ou de l'anglais

daos une province.

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T11~ Comrltutlon and o( the legislative assembly or each prov­ince to which the amendment appBes •

.C3. Subj«' to section.s 40 and 41. Parlia­ment may excJu.sivcly make laws amending the Constitutioo of C~~;n:ada in relation to the executive govern~nl of Canada or the Senate and House or Commons.

43. Sous rCsc-rve des a rticles 40 et 41, le Parlcment a compCtenoe exclu.si\•e pour

S modifier les dispositions de la Constitution du Can.ada relatives au pouvoir exetutif fed~· S ral, au SCnat ou a la Ch:ambre des commuruo~s .

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..... Subjoct to Section 40. the leg:i.slature ... Sou5 reserve de !'a rticle 40, une l~gis· Modifwatioll

of eaeb province may e-xclusively make laws 1ature a compCtence exc:lusin~ pour modiFter ~!:111te$ amending the constitution of the province. I 0 la constitution d.e sa pl'ovince. I 0

4S. (I) The procedures fOI' amendment 45. (1) L'i.niliative des proc1Mui'C$ ·de under sectiOfl$ 31. 40, 41 and 42 may be modif'wation visets aux art:iciC$ 31. 40. 41 et initiated eithel' by the Senate 01' the House of 42 apparticnt au S.Snat, a la Chambre des CommOftS or by tlte legislative assembly of a communeJ ou l une assembl~c l~gislat ive. provi.nce. 15

(2) A resolut ion of a55ent made for the purposes of this Pan may be revoked a.t any t ime berOfe tbe iss .. e of a procla mation authorized by it.

(2) Une rCsolution d'agremcnt adoptCc I 5 "?t-''~t de Wins le c;~drc de la pr6sente-partie peut ttre rt•w;,~ rCvoquCe ti. tout momeflt a v3nt l<t da.t.e de la proclamation qu'dle autorise.

46. ( I) An amendment to the Constitutjon 20 46. ( I) Dans.lt::s cas vi!>Cs :\!'article 37, 40. M>lCL~t~~I.Ooftbl of Canada m.1de by ptoclarnation uOOer sec· 41 ov 42. il peuc ~trc pa$....C ouut au difaut20~~S:~"t tion 31. 40.41 or 42 may be made without a d'autorisation du Stoa t s i telui-ei n'a PI)$

resolution of tlw: Senate authorizing che issue adQPt6 de rCsolution dans un dtlai de cent of the proel;~rn.;tion if. within one hundrtd qva.tre•vingts jours suivant !'adoption de cclle-and eigbty days after the adoption by tbe2Sde la Chambre des communes et si tette House or Commons of a resolution 01uthoriz.. <J.emitrc. a pres l'expiratjon du dClai, adopte 25 ing its issue. the Senate has not adopted sucb une nouvelle risolution daD$ le me-me sens. a resolut ion and if. at any time after the e-xpirat ion or that period, the House of Com· mons again adopts the. resolution. 30

(2) Any period when Parliament is proro- (2) Dans la computa tion du dC:Iai vis( au gued or dissoh•ed shall not be counted in paragraphe (I). ne soot pas comptCcs les computing the one hundred and eighty day pCriodes pe~tll lesqueUes le Parlc-ment est period re ferred to in subsection (I). prorogC ou dissous. 30

47. l'be Queen·s Pri\'Y Council for 35 47. Le Conscil privC de la Reine p>ur k Canada shall advl$c the Governor General tO Canada demande- au gouverneur gCnCral de iMue a proclamatiOn under this Part fontt. preodrc.. CQflfOtmtment A la prC:.stnte partie, with on t-'!e a.doption of the resolut ions une prodamacion db !'adoption de$ rCs.olv• required fOt~ arr&mendmeru made by procla· tioM prtvues: par cette. parlie pour une modi· 35 rnation under tbis Part. 40 fication par proclamation.

48. A constitutional con(erence composed 48. Oans les quinze ans suivanc l'en trOO en of the Prime Mini$tc:r of Carta.da and the: vigueur de la prCsence part ie. le premier

('qn(f"'""' OOW.tit•••

~·· first minis-ters or the provin«S shall be COO· ministre du Cana<b (Onvoque l.lftt conr6rc:nce vencd by the P rime Minister of Canada oonstitutionndle rCuni.ssant Its premier$ 40 within fiftoc-n y~rs afccr this Part ooroes into 45 minis tres ptovincia ux et 1ui·mCme. en vue du force to review the provisions of this Part. rtexamen des dispositions de eette panic.

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PART V

AMENDMI!.NT TO TH£ CONS'I"fTtJ1'10N ACT, 1367

TM CollJtlllltk>n PARTIE V

M001F1CATIQN 06l.A 1..01 CONSTJTt!TJONNEllE 06 1861

49. La w; eottJiitulionnt'lle de 1867 (antCrieurcment design« sous le titre: Acr~ dt I'Amirlqut du Nord britannlqu~. 1867) est modirtCe par insertion, aprCs !'article 92,

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49. The Qmsrttullon Act, 1867 (formerly named tbe Brilislt Norrll America Act, 186'7) is amended b)' addins thereto. immediately after section 92 thereof, the foiJowing bead· ing a nd section: Sde La rubrique et de l'artic,Je suivants:

''Non-ReMtt>ttble Natural Resources. F()rtStry Resouretts and Electrical Entrgy

92A. (I) In eaeh provi.l'lct, the Jcgi.sl.a· ture may exclu5h·ety make laws in relation 10

(a) exploration for non-renewable natu-ral ~sources in che provi~M:C:; I() (b) development, conservation and management of non-renewable natural resources and forestry rcsour(es in the provin-ce. including laws in relation to the. rate of primary production there- 1 S fro.n: and (c) development, conservation a.nd man­agement of $ites 'nd facilities in the province for the generation and prodUc-tion or elecu-icaJ energy. 20

(2) In eac-h province, t he-le&tslarure may I:I'IO'Ike laws in relation to the export (rom the province to anoth« part of Canada of t he primary prQduction from non·rene~A'· abJe natural resources and (ore5-t:ry 2:5 rCSOUr<:C$ in the prOYince and the produc­tion from facilities in tbe prov-inc::t for the generalion of e;lectricaJ energy, but such laws may not authori~e or provide for di$Ctimin;uion in prices or in supplies 30 e:w.ported to another part of Canada.

(l) Nothing in &ubsectfon (2) derogates from ~ authority of Parliament to enact laws in rel~ttion to the. mauers referred to in tbat subsection and, wh(.re such a taw of35 Parliament and a taw of a province-con­flict. the. law of Parliament prevail$ to the exterll of the oonOict.

•Rcssourcu Mtur~lles nOn .rtJtQu~<tlables. TtJSotm:esforestii>"s et bwrgie i/eclrique

9lA. (I) La J~aisl.t.ture de thaque pro• vince a compCtence exdus.ive pour ICgifC-rer dans k:s domaines s uivants : I 0

a) prospection des r~urccs naturclle1 non reno,n·elablts de la province;

b) exploitation, conservation et gestion des ressource; naturclles non reoou\•ela· bles et des rcssourccs fOfeS(iCres de la IS province, y compris leur rythme de pro­duction primaire:

c) am6nagement. conserntion et tc;os.. tion des ~mplacements et des instaJia· tions de la pr<Wince destines a la produc- 20 lion d'Cnergie Clectrique.

(2) La lfgislature de cbaque province a com.pCtencc pOur ICgifirer en ce qui COn· cerne J"exportation, hors de la province, 8 cbtination d'une-autre partie du Canada. 25 de la production primaire tirCe des ressour• ces naturelles non re-nouvelables et des re&·

sources fores1ieres de la prOVinct. ain$i que de la production d'Cnergie Clcctrique de la provinc:e. sous ~serve- de ne pas adopter de 30 lois autorisant ou privoyant des disparit~s de prix ou de~ disparitCs dans le$ exporta· tioru destintcs :\ une autre ps.rtie du Canada.

(J) Le parasraphe (2) ne porte PQ:s35~"0ird• atteinte au pouvoir du Parlement de ICgifC· _ .. , ret dans Its domaincs vi!.& 4 cc. pa.ragra· pbe, les dispositions d'une loi du Parlemenl adoptee dan$ ces domaincs l'emportant sur le.s dispositions i_ncompatibJes d'une Joi 40 provineiale.

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Tllr C.oruJitvtitm (4) rn each province, the legislature- may

make Oaws ln reJadon to the raising of money by tny mode Ot system of taxation in respect or

(a) non-~ble natural resources S and fORStry resources in tbe province and the primary production thcrefrQm, and (b) sites and facilitits in the province for &he generation of electrical eneray I 0 and lhe production therefrom.

whether or not such production is e.~~:ported in whole or in part from the province. but such laws may not authorize Or provide for tuati<>n that diffcn:ntiatt5 betwt:en pro- I 5 duction exported to another pare o.f Canada and production not exported from· the prMi.nce.

(5) The CApression .. primary produc­tion .. bas the meaning &S5ignod by the.20 Sixth Schedule,

(6) Nothing in Juboeclion• (I) to (S) derogata from aoy powers or rights that a legjslatu.re or aovernment of a province bad immediately before the ooming into 25 force of this scetjon. ••

( 4) la ICgislature dt· ch3qut-province a eompCtenoe pour prCI'(Vcr dd lSOmrnts d•argent par tout mode ou S)'stCmc: de taxation:

a) des ressour«S naturelles non rcnou- 5 ve1ables et des l"C$SOUtoe$ (C)re&tierc:s de-la province. ainsi que de la ptaduc:tion primaire qui en ttl tJtee; b) des emplaccments et des installations de la province dcstinis a La production 10 d'inergie e!ccttique. ainsi que de cettc. production mame.

Cette compCtence peut s'exerQ:r indCpen4

damtrtent du fa it que la produc.tion en cause soit ou non. en totaJhC oo en partje, 15 e.~~:port6e horJ de la province, mais IC$ lois adoptCes dans ees domaints ne peu,ent aut01'iser ou prCvoir une tax.alion qui Cta­bli$$e une distinction entte la produ«ion expottCc a destination d'une autre partlt 20 du Canada et la produc.tion non exponCe bOB d< la p!VYi-,

(5) L'exprcss-ion . produc;.1ton primajrt• a le sens qui lui C$1 donnC. dans la si.x.i-eme annexe. 25

(6) Les pacaarapbes (I) i (5) ne portent pas aueinte aux pouvoirs ou droits detenus par la ltgislature ou le goovemement d 'une province lors de l'eat~e: en vipeur du prisent article... 30

g, Tbo said Act is further amended by addina thereto the following. Schedule:

50. Ladite kli est en outre modifiCc par adjoncti0f1 <k l 'anne.~~:e suiv:u,te :

"THE SIXTH SCHEDULE

Primary Productt'OJtj;om Non·R~Jt~wobl~ Natural Resourcrs and F<Jr~stry R~sourcts

I. few the purposes ot section 92A of this Act, \ .. !.- 30

(a) production from a non-renewable natural rtSOUt'(e is primary product1on the-rtfrCJm if

(i) it is in the- form i.n wh.icb it exisu upon i1t rooovery or :severanoe from ita 35 natur.al state, or

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Production primo.ir~ tt'rh des ressot"ces naturtll~.s lf()n rMOt~llflable.t ~~ d~s

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I. Pour l'application de !'article 92A : a) on cntcnd par production print.airc UrCe d'une ressootce natu.relle non re.noovela· 35 ble :

(i) soil k produit qui st pr6sente sous la m!me. fonne que lors de son extraction du milieu nature!, (ii) soit le produit non manufacture de 40 la transformation, du raffinage ou de

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(ii) it i$ a product resuhi_ng from proc· c$$-ing or refining the rcsouree. and is not a manufactured product or :t prod· I.ICI resulting from refining crude oil, re-fining upgraded heavy c:rude oil, rcfin· S ing: gases ot liquids derived from coal or refining a synthetic equh·alent of crude oil~ and

(~) produc1ioo from a forestry resource iJ primary production tberefrom if it oonsist:s 10 of sawlogs, poles, lumber, wood chips, saw­d U$t Of :tny other prin.ary wood product, or wood pulp. and is not a product manu· factuttd from wood."

PART VI

G£NrutAL

Tht' Cmuti tutiQII

J'arriruge d'une rcs.wurce. 3 !'exception du produil du raffinage du ~trole brut, du raftinage du pCtrole brut Jourd amC:­I.i~. du raffinage des g.az. ou des liqui­des deri,·Cs du charbon ou du taffinaae S d'un equivak:nt llyntMtique du pCtrole brut~

b) on entend par productjon primaire ci rie d'une tCl>S()urce fol'tlltiCre la production const ituCe de biUots, de pOtc-i!lux, de bois 10 d're-uvre. de. copcaux, de sdure ou d 'autre produit prim01ire: du bots. oo <k· pate- de bois, 8 l'eXQCption d'un produit manufac­hlte en bois ...

PAR TIE \' I

DISPOSIT IONS o6NERAl£S

SI. (I) The Constitution of Canada is tbe 15 SI. ( I) La Constitution du Canada est I<' I 5 ~"'•.q•i.« "' supreme. law of Ca nada. and any Jaw that is loi supreme du Canada: die rend inopCrantes ~::d~"' l(lrl "" in(OOSis tent with the provisions of the Con· les dispositions incom~tibles de toute autre s titution is. to the extent of the iooonsistcncy, ~g.le de droit. of no force or effect.

(2) The. Con5titution of Canada include$ 20 (a) the C(uttula Act, in~Juding this Aet;

( 1) La Const itution du Canada comprend : Ciln>LiMioo ,. . ('l~d'

a) la UN' sur I~ Canada, y compr1s la 20 (b) the Acts and orders rcJerrcd to in S<booul< I; Md (c) a ny amelldment to any Act or order referred to in p3ragraph (a) or (b). 25

(J) Amendments to the Constitution of C3nada $h:all be made only in ~«ordance •·ith the autOOrity (;ontaincd in the Constitu· lion of Canada.

prCsentc: loi: b) k$ textts l~g.islatifs et les dtcrc:ts figu· ra.nt a !'annexe 1: c) lc:s modifications des tc:.x tes ltgislatifs et des dC(rels menlic>nn~s aux a lin-bs a) oo 25 ~).

(l) la Constitution du Canada ne peut ~tre modifiCe que oonformCment aux pou· voirs confC:rCs par elk:.

Mod!( .;ulon

5:Z. (I ) The Ct\;lctments re ferred to in30 52. ( I) t c:s textes le8:i.slatifs cc les d~ret$30AbN!j•dlloHe Column I of Schedule I are hereb)' repealed CnumCrCs a la colonnc I de !'annexe I sont ~~~·Ciolu~ elt~ or amc.ndcd to the extent indic:atod in abrogts o u modifiCsdansla mesurc:indiqutt a Column 11 t bcrCC)f and. unless repealed, sball la colonne 11. Sauf abrogation. ils restc:nt en continue as la""' in <:anada under tl•~ names \'igueur en t.ant que lois du Canada sous Jes .set out in S::Oiu.mn 111 thereof. 35ti•re." mentionn& a la coh:mne Ill. 3S ..

(2) Every enactment, except the Canada (2) Tout 1exte lt!gid:u if ou r~glcme.uairc:. Acr, th:u refel"$ to an ei'IO'ctment refem!d to s.auf !a Loi sur If' Canada. qui fait mention in Schedule I by the name in Column I d·un tc:xte ttgislatif ou dCcrc: t figurant i l'an· thereof is here b)' amended by subSLituting nexe I pa r le 1i1r-e indiqu~ t. la coloM e f es1 for that name the correspot~ding n:une in40modif'te par substitution it cc titre du litre40 Column Ill tbercof. and any British North oorrcspondant mentionnC 3 la colonne JJ 1: America Act not re(errcd 10 in Schedule I 10u1 .'\(h: de I'Ami:ri(ll•t du Nord britanni-may be c iled ;1$ the C()tt.$fUuti()n Acr fol· que non mcntionnC a !'annexe. I peut Ctre citC­

S<IUS le 1i1re de l.ol M n.ttltutlr>nm•flt> suivi de

Moclif~e,~d(loo:& Wtlii••'""J

13264

Rcpdi U 4 CJ)fi!C'qll(l!h';:ll

lmcrnl,...,h

l'fVIoi:fl •WJIOII o( Coalillltion o(Cantdl:o

lttii!IISil ud Fr~n(lr. """iool' of"'"''" _ ,, ... ~.

IC).IS

Ena!iJh""" Frcntfl w rtliont

d lloli;An

COfl'o!!tmCC.

~·" ""'~ ... .,.,. lJ(I)(u) ho ..op.c.: (l/ Q~b«

Aultu.orilfiiiO)o:c et 4).~1>c<

COMMOl<S DEBATF.S

nw ( 'tUltlitut((m

1Qw1.-d by 1hc year and number, ir any, or its enactmc.:nt ..

!'indication de l'annCc de soo adoption et ~h·entuellement de :~on numCro.

Sl . la partie Ill est a brogC.: un ,an aprCs l'entri:c en vigueur de la prCscnte partie et le

53. Part Ill i$ rc.peaJed on the day that i$ one )'C'ar after this Part comes into rorcc and this section may be repealed and chis Act renumbered, consequential upon the repeal of Part Ill and this section. by proclamation issued by tbe Gov.:rnor General under the G reat Seal of Canada.

S govverneur general peut. par proclam:uion sous le grand sccau du Ca.nada, abrogcr te present ar·ticle et apporter en oonstquence de cette- doublc: abrosatioo Its am~nagen"te.IUS qui s' imposent ii la pri.~ente loi.

Ab~JtiM~ .e=oc~;r;.,., "'",

qll! tll 5d~ltnl

S4. A Frenehversiono(theport ionsof the iO 5-f. Le ministrc de la Jus tice- du Canada JO v, cr~~ d C · · f C d ' ~• • h < d ••· • · I ·11 ru(~lt(. c. onslltuhon o ana a re.err .. -... to 1n est c arg.- c rcu1ger, u.~ns es me• eurs .:u•aift!' ~-Uicos

Scbcdule I shall be prepared by tbe Ministu· d(.lais. la vtrtion fra~ist des parties de lt~ ®~~t~lurdiiMt:!ol of Justi<:e of Canada as expodJtiously as pos.- Constitution du Canada qui figure.nt a l'an-sibJe and, when any por~ion tberoof sufficien• l'lexe 1: toute p.'ltlit suffisa•nmcnt irnportante to warrant action being taken has been sot Sest, dCs qu•eue est prCte. dipO.S(e pour adop. IS prepared, it shall be put ror,.·ard ror enacc- t ion par proclamation du gouverneur gtaerat ment by proelam.ation issued by the Gover·- sous le grand sceau du Otn<td~. oonformt-nor General under the C rest Seal of Canada mcnt a la procedure applkable a l'tpOqut a pursuant to the PfOCtdure then 3pplicable to la modific~tiOn des dispositions constitution-an amendment of tbe same provisions of the20nelles qu'elle contic:nt. 20 Constitution or Canada .

SS. Where any portion of the Constitut ion SS. Lcs ven.ions fran~isc et an&Jaise des or Canada has betcn or is en<'!t;ted in English patties de la Constitution du Canada adop-a nd French <>r where a French \'ers ion of any tOes dans ces de u11; IM gues onl ~8<'l ltme-nt portion o( the Constitution is enacted pursu- 2S rol'(;e de loi. £n outre, ont igalemc:nt force de ant to $tC:tion 54, tbe Eng(jsh and French loi, das !'adoption, dans le cadre de l'aniclc-25 ,·c:rsioos of that portion o( the Constitution S4. d 'une partie de la version rran~ise de la are equally authorit3tive.. Constitution, cettc partie. et la \'ersiun

a nglaise <:01're.SJ)I:mda,ue.

\'(tlion~ r ..... "',; .. « ~~~; .. m oena:.,. ~~~ttli 1.\..'IIJ!itt;iCOindl:

$6. The English and French \'trsio-ns or $6. Les vef1,ions fran~i~ Cl angl:ti$e de la r •S.IIIIS. this Aet are equally authoritath•e , 30 prCsente loi ont (.galcment for« de loi. Jo::;:.':;.',,

ll"i«ni~IOJi

57. Subject to section 58. this Act shall 57. Sous rCserve de l'articlc: SS, la prtsente come into rorce on a day to be fixed by loi ent re. en vigueur 8. la date fixte par pro-proclamation issued by the Queen or the c lama tion de la Reit~ ou du gouvernc.ur Governor GeneraJ under the Great Seal o( gCnCral sous le grand scea u du Canad<l. CaMda. 35

58. ( I) Paragraph 23( l)(a) sball come SS. ( I) L'alinCa 23( l)a) entre c.n vigueur JS~m1i~~ . ~ . A~Q ' ··· d be I Q .b ' I d fo • I ''t!~'''-'' "" •nto tOr« tn:resp.ect.., ue~ on a ay to pour e ue cc" a a 1.e •xee par proc 3ma - r d .. e. 2u11.,,

fixed by proclamation issued by the Queen or tion de la Reioe ou du gou\·crneur tCnCr~l flOU' ~.: Q.~~ the CO\·ernor General unde.r the Great Seal sous le. grand sccau du Canada. ofC.nada. 40

(2) A proclanut ion under subsection ( I ) $h..1.U be issued only where authorized b)' the legislative assembly or government of Quebec.

(2) La proc.Jamation vis6e au paragraphc: A~~~~~IM •~<• ( I ) ne peut etrt· pri$t qu'aprCs autori~3tion 40QI.o(t)Q.: de J'assemblCc ICgtslat ive oo du gouverne· mtJtt du QuCbcc.

.. Novcmbcf 2$, 191 I COMMONS OEBA TES

(J) This $CCtiao m.ay be: repc:akd oa tbe day ~rapapb ll{IX•) C()tMS inlo force ia mpccl of Q\o<l>cc and tbis A<l am<nded and rcnwambcrcd. comcqucnd.al UPJO the repeal of &hiJ JCCtion, by proclartUition issued by tbe Queen or the Govcmcx General under the: Gre~t Seal or CanadA.

.,.,., C'Otllllrwf(llff

(J) u pRxftl artldc ""'' ..... •tros• i la date d"cntr«: en viaueu.r de f aJU.C. ll(J)cr) pour le Qutbte. C-l la prisentc kJi (aire rob-jet. eta: Ottk- abfopdon. da modifications et

Scb.an&crMnll de numfroc.atioft qui en deoou- S knt.. par proclamation de la Ra:nt: o~;~ du JOUvttntlar afMral sous le arand soeau du Canada.

$9. T his Act may be cited as tbe C011.tti· 59. Titre •bttl~ de la priaentc annexe: Tittu

tutlOII Act, 19lll. and the Constitution Acts Lol ((),Utltutlonn~llt d~ /981 : titre oommun 10 1867 1u 1975 (No. 2) and this Act may be IOdn lois constltutlonnelles de 1867 l 191S cited toactbcr as the Con.uilutlon Acu, 1667 (n• 2) et de la pr6.sentc loi: Lois COI'Utitu-10 1981. 110/tntllt.J d~ 1861 b 1981.

1l26S

IJ266 COMMONS DEBATES

1M Cumtituli()ll

SCHEDUle I

to the:

CONSTITUTION ACT. 1981

MODERNIZATION OF THE CONSTITUTION

Column I ll ~:rn Ace Affected

I. British North Americ~ Act. 1867, 30.3 I Vice •• c. 3 (U.K.)

2. An A~i to amend and continue the Act J2-.l3 Victotia chapcer 3: and to csJ.ablisb and provide few tbe Gov­ernment of the Province or Manit~ bo. 1870.33 Vicl., c. 3 (Can.)

3. Order of Her Majesty in Council admiHing Rupert'$ Land and the North-Western TcrritOI}' into the union. dated t.bc 23rd day or June, 1870

4. Order of Her Majesty in Council admitting Brit.i.sh Columbi.a into the Unioo, dated the 16th day or May, 1871

S. British North America Act. 1871, 34· 35 Vicl., c. 28 (U.K.)

6. Ordcot o( Her Majesty in Counoc-il .-.dmitling Ptinoe Edwa"'- Island into the Unjon. dated tbc 26th day of Ju~~ 1873

1, Parliamtnl or Canada Act. 1875, 38-39 Vict. c. 38 (U.K.)

8. Order or Her Majesty in Council sdmiuing s ll British possessions and Terricories in Nortb America and islands adjacent tberdo inco the Union, d;ued iht 3 1st day or July. 1880

Column 11 Amtndment

(I) Section 1 is repe~ led and the (~\owing substituted there-for;

"I. Tlti$ Aet may be cited as tbe Cor.rstilution Act. 1867." (2) Section 20 is repeakd. (3) ClaM I of section 91 is

repcaJed .. (4) Class I of section 92 is

repealed.

(I) The long title is et-pealed and the· following substituted thcreror:

··Manitoba Acl, 1870." (l) Sedion 20 is repealed.

Sectioo I is repealed and the foUowins !Jubsdtutod therefor:

••t . This Aet may be cited as the Co~Ulitution Act, 1871."

November 2S. 1981

Column Ill New Name

Connitution Act, 1367

ManicoN Act, 1870

Rupert's land and North-West­ern Territory Order

British Columbia Yerms o( Union

Constitution Act. 1871

Prince &!ward bland Terms of Union

Parliament o( Canada Act, 187S

Adjacent Territories Order

NQVembe.r .2-S, 1~81 · COMMONS DEBATES

ANNEXE I

LOI CONSTITUTIONNELLE DE 1981

ACTUALISATION DE LA CONSTITUTION

Colonne I loi viste

1. Ac:te de I'Amirique du N()r(J britan· nique. 1867. lO-ll Vict., c . 3 (1!.-U.)

2. Acte pour amcOOcr et oontjnuer l'ac:te trente•deux et trc:nte-trois Vic­toria. c:hapitre trojs, et pour 6tablir et constitucr le. aouvernement de La province de Manitoba, 1870, 33 Vic.t., c. 3 (Carutda)

3. ArrCtC. en conscil de Sa Majcst6 admeuant la Terre de Rupen et le Territoire du Nord4 0ucs1, c:n date du 23 juin 1870

4. Arre:tc en c:oo.seil de Sa Majeste admetlant la Colombie-Britannique, en date du 16 mai 1871

S. Acte. de I'AmCrique. du NOf'd brit:an­llique. 1871, 34· 35 Vict.. c. 28 ( R.-U.)

6. Arr~te en consen de Sa Majestf adm-euant l'lle·du 4 Prince;.Edooard, en date du 26 juin 1873

1. Acte du Parlement du Canada, 1375, 33-39 Vict., c. 38 (R.-U.)

8. Arretc en con,se-jJ de Sa Majest~ admeuant dans I' Union tou.s lcs ter4

ri toires et poMCssions britanniqucs dans: J'Atn.Crique du Nord, et Jcs iles adjac.:entes a ccs territoires et pos.sc:s­sions, en date du 3 1 juilltt 1880

Co&>nne 11 M<>dific:ation

(I) l 'arcic:le I C$t abrogC et rc:mplac.:C par ~;e qui $ult :

.1. Titre abrigC. : Loi ronsti 4

tufionnelle lit /867 .» (2) L'article 20 est abrogC. (3) La C;th~goric I de !'article

91 est abrogCe. (4) la c:atigorie I de !'article

92 C$l abrog6e.

(I) le tilre c»mplet C$1 abrog~ et rcmpJacC par cc qui suit :

. l./)1 d~ 1870 jur le Manl· lobo.• (2) L'article 20 est abroge.

L'article 1 est abn')8C. et rem­place pat cc qui suit :

•I. Titre abrEgt : WJ (()nJtl· tutionntlle <ft J 871 .•

Colonne Ill N()uveau titte

13267

loi oonstitutionneUe de 1&61

Loi de 1870 aur le ManitoN

Dc.crtt en oonseil sur la terrt de Rupcrt et le territoire du Nord· OUt$1

Conditions de l'adb~slon de la Colombie-Britannique

Loi c:onstitutic:mnclfe de 181 I

Conditions de l'adhision de l'ile4 du4 Prinoe-Edouard

loi de 187S sur le Pa.rltment du Canada

Decrtl en <:Onseil sur les territoi· res adjaoc.nu

COMMONS DEBATES

SCHEDULE!

CONSTITUTION ACT. 1981-cMtinued

Item Column I

Act AITc<tcd

9. Brilisb North America AcL. 1816. 49-50 v;a, c. lS (U.K.)

10. Canada (Ontario Botondary) A<L 1889. S2·Sl VlcL. c. 28 (U.K.)

11. Canadian Speaker (App:lintmcat of Deputy) Act. 1895. 21\d Sea.. 59 Vlct., c. 3 (U.K.)

12. The Albetto Act. I 90S. 4-S Edw. VU. c. l (Can.)

13. The s .. katcbewan Act. 190S. <1-S Edw. VU, c. 42 (Coo.)

14. Bribsh North America Act, 1907, 1 Edw. VU. c. 11 (U.K.)

IS. British North Amcrit:a Act. J91S, 5-6 Gco. V. c. 4S (U.K.)

16. Bridsh North Amerial Act. J9l0, 20.21 Goo. V, c. 26 (U.K.)

17. Statule of Weclmin!&.tcr, 1931, 12 Goo. V, c. 4 (U.K.)

18. British North America Act, 1940, 3-4 Gco. VI, c. 3<1 (U.K.)

19. British North America Act. 1943, 6·1 Goo. VI, c. 30 (U.K.)

Column U Amendment

Section 3 is repeaJed and the (ollowlnc aubltituted therefor:

.. 3. This Act may be ci ted as the Colutltlltion Ad, 1886."

The Act is repc~~k:d.

Section 2 is n:peaJed and tbe followinssublstitukd thcrefor:

''2, This Acl may be cited as tbc Constillttion Ac"l. 1907."

Section 3 is repealed and the foilowina substituted tberefor:

.. l . This Act may be eiled as lhe ConstitutiOII Acl, 1911."

Scc1ion J j, repealed and the (ollowin& substjtutcd thcrcfor:

.. .l. This Ac.t may be cited as the COJUtitution Acl. 1930.''

In so rar as they apply to Ca.nada,

(a) Aeetion 4 ~re-pealed: and (b) ••boec11on 7(1) io rq><alcd.

Section 2 is repealed and the foflowins 'ubeotituted therefor:

.. 2. Thi$ Act may be ci ted a..s the Conslitution Act. 1940."

'lrhe Act i$ repea.Jtd.

November 25,1981

Column Ill New Name

Constitut ion Act. 1886

canada (Ontario Roondary) Ac.t, 1889

Alberta Act

S;~s:btchewan Ac-t

Constitution Act, 1907

Constitution Act. I 91 S

Constit~o~tion Act, 1930

Stat~o~te of Westminster. 1931

Co.nslinuion Act. 1940

.. COMMONS D£8A1'ES

ANNEX£ I (suire)

lOI CONSTITUTIONNELLEDE 1981

CoJonne 1 loi vi$6e

9. Acte de I'Ambiq~Je du Nord britan· nique. 1886, 49-SO Vict .• c. 3S (R.-U.)

10. Acte d u Canada (lirnites d 'Ornario) 1889. 52-SJ Vict .. c. 28 (R.·U.)

11 . Acte concerna.nt l'Oratwr canadien (nomination d'un i-uppl~nt) 189$, 2-' session, 59 Vict., c. 3 (R.-U.)

12. Acte de. I'Aibctta. 1905, 4-5 Ed. VII, c. 3 (C.nada)

I). Acte de la S3skau;hewan, I 90S, 4-5 Ed. VII, c. 42 (Canada)

14. Acte de I'Amirique du Nord britan. nique. 1907, 7 Ed. VII, c. 11 (R.·U.)

IS. Ac:t~: de I'Amtrique du Nord britan· nique, 1915, 5-6 Goo. V, c. 45 (R.·U.)

16. Acte de I'Am&-ique du Nord britan· nique. 1930, 20· 21 Goo. V, c. 26 (R.•U.)

11. Statut de Westminster. · f93 1. 22 Geo. V. c. 4 (R.· U.)

IS. Aete de I'AmCrique du Nord britan­niquc, 1940, 3·4 Geo. VI, c . .)6 (R.•U.)

19. Acte de I'AmCriquedu Nord britan­nique, 1943, 6-7 Geo. VI. c. 30 (R.·U.)

Coloone 11 Modification

L'article 3 est abrog~- c1 rem· plad par ce qui -suit :

cJ. Titre otbr6gt. : IJ>t cOnstl­tutionn~lle d~ /886.•

la loi e!lt abrog«:.

L'arlicle 2 est abrogC- et rem­pia~ par oe qui suit :

•2 .. Tilre abrCgC : Lor. eon.rri­tutionn~ll~ de 1907.•

L 'article 3 est abrogt e t rt;m· place par ce:qui suit:

~3 . Titre abr6gC ;_l.IJf consti­tuJ/onNIIe de 191 5.•

L'article 3 est abrogC et rem- . place- par ce qui suit :

•l . Titre. abrtge : Loi consll­tutionne/1~ d~ /9JO.•

Dans la mcsurc oU ils s'appli .. quent su Canada :

a) l'ar1icle 4 est abrogt~ b) le paragraphe 7 (1) c:st abros~··

L 'art icle 2 est a brogC et rem­pia~ par ce qui $Uit :

•2. Titre abrigi: Loi conJti­tutlontvlle de 1940 ••

La loi est a brogCe.

r~ Ctm.ttiwti(m

Colonne Ill Nouvcau t itre

13269

Loi con$titutionnclle de 1886

Loi de 1889 sur le Canada (fron­.cjCrcs de I'OnHlrio)

Loi $Uf I'Aibctt:t

Loi $Ut la Saskatchewan

loi constitutionnclle de 1907

loi constitutio-nnclle de 191 S

LoiconstitutionneHede 1930

St;atut de Westminste-r de. 1931

Loi constitutionnc.Jie de 1940

13270 COMMONS DEBATES

SCHEDULE I to the

CONSTITUTION ACT, 1981-Conti~tued

Column I llem Act Affected

20. British North America Aet. 1940. 9- 10 Gco. VI. c . 6l (U.K.)

21. British North America Act, 1949, 12·ll Geo. VI. c. 22 (U.K.)

22 British North America (No. 2) Aet, 1949. l l Geo. VI, c. 81 (U.K.)

23. British North Ameri~ Act. 14-IS Gco. VI, c.l2 (U.K.)

1951,

24. Britith Not1h Amer~ Ace., 1952. I Eliz. 11. c. IS (Coo.)

25. British North America ACI, 1960, 9 E.Jiz.ll,c. 2 (U.K.)

26. British Nonh America Act. 1%4. 12-ll Eliz. 11. c. 7l (U.K.)

21. British NOrth Amerlca Act. 1965. 14 Eliz. 11. c . 4. Put I (Can.)

' -c

28. British NOf1h America Act. 1974, 23 Eli:r.. 11. c. 13, Pan I (Can.)

Column 11 Amendment

Tbe Act is repealed.

Section 3 is repeakd and the foiJowin& .substituted thereror:

.. J. This Act may be cited as the Newfoundland Act ...

The Aca i1> repealed.

The Act is repealed.

The Act is repealed.

Sec::tion 2 is repealed and the following tubstittued thcrefor:

.. 2. This Act may be cited .u tbc: Constitution. Act, 1960."

Sc<:tion 2 i.s repealed and the following substituted tbcrefor:

.. 2. This Act may be cited as 1be Conslftuli()n Act, 1961/,"

Seclion 2 is repealed •nd the following substhuted tberefOf':

.. 2. This Part may be cited as the COIUtltld(()lt Ac-t. 196$."'

Section J, as amended by 25·26 Elit. 11. c. 28, s. 38(1) (Can.) is repealed and the (oiiO\\'· ing sub$tituted therefor:

.. 3. This Part may be cited as the Con.stitution Act, 1974."

NoYel.'l'lbtt2S.I98J

Column Ill New Name

Newfoo.ndland Act

Constitution Act. 1960

Constitution Act, 1964

Constitution Act. 196S

Constitution Act, 1974

NO'!'tmber 2S, 1981. COMMONS DEBATES

ANNEXE I (suite)

LOI CONSTITUTIONNELLE DE 1981

Colonne I Loi visCe

20. Acte de. I'Am6rique du Nord britan· nique. 1946, 9-10 Gco. VI, c. 63 (R.·U.)

21 . Ac:u de J'AmCrique du Notd britan­nique, 1949, 12-13 Geo. VI, c. 22 (R.·U.)

22.. Acte de l'AmCTique du Nord britan­nique (N• 2), 1949, 13 G eo. VI, e. 81 (R.·U.)

23. 1\cte de I'Amerique du Nord briiAn· nique, 1951, 14-l5 Gco. VJ, c. 32. (R.·U.)

24. Actc de I'Am~rique du Nord britan· nique, 19S2. I Eliz. 11, c. 15 (Canada)

25. Ac:te de I'AmCrlque du Nord britan­nique, 1960, 9 Eliz. 11, c. 2 (R.•U.)

26. A«e de I'AmC:rique du Nord britan· nique, 1964, 12-13 Eli:t. 11. c. 13 (R.· U.)

21. Acte de I'AmC.rique du Nord britan­nique, l96S, 14 Eliz. ll, c. 4, Partie I (Canada) .,

28. Acte de I'AmCrique du NOtd britan· njque. 1974, 2l Elit. 11, c. 13. Partie I (C1nada)

Colonne 11 Moclification

La loi est abrog6e.

L•artide 3 est abroa~ et rem­place par ce qui suit :

•l. Titre abregC: : Loi sur Tt,t ·Nt u-vt.•

La loi est abrogk

La l<>i '" , btogu.

La Joi est abrogie.

L"article 2 ~$1 ab~ et rem· placi par QC qt1i s1.1it :

.2.. Titre abrf~. : IAI C()tUI/· IUII<Hrnelft dt /96(),.

l'articlt- 2 ~~ abro&~ e• rem· place par cc qu.i suit :

.2. Titre abrigt : Lol (()nstl• tuliontWIIt de 1961# .•

L "atticlc 2 ~SI abrogC et rem· place par QC qui su.it :

.2. Tilre •~~«s~ de la prt­stme part le : Loi ronstilutiOff· Mile de 1965.,

L 'article 3, mocJjfiC par le para­graphc 38(1) de. la loi 2.S..26 Eli· zabeth 11. c. 28 (Canada), est abrogC et rcmplaci par ce qui suit :

•3. Titre a brCgC de la pr4> scntc pa.Mic : Loi con.rtitutiOII· nelle de 1974.•

TM Comlifldf()n

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loi cons.titutlonnelle de. 1964

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29. British· Nortb America Act, 1975, 23-24 Efiz. l I, c. 28, Part J (C~n.)

Soct~n 3, as amended by ZS-26 Elit. IJ, <. 28, •· ll (C.n.) is repealed and the foiJ.owings.ub­stituccd thetefor:

30. Brilish Nort:b America Act (No. 2), 1975, 23·24 'Eiit. 11, c. SJ (C.n.)

.. J . This Part may be cited as the Consdtutlon Act (No. I), 197$,"

Sectjon 3 is repealed and the following substituted thcretor:

.. 3. Tbis Ace may be ("ited a$ the Ci.Mstilulion Ac-t (No. 1), 197$."

And on the amcndmet~t thereto of Tbe MloJster of Indian Aftllirs and Nortbem Devdopmc:nt,-Tbat the propoaod CMUtitvtio,. Act 1941 contained in tbc motioa in the name of l.be Minilter of Justice (Government 8usi.ncss., Government Motion No. S6). as printed tn the (hdu Papv of Moaday, N""'mber ZJ, 1981 , be amended

(a) by addina. immediately aJttt line 19 on page 24 of the Ord~r l'11per, t:be fo!JO'W'ing:

"PART !I RIGHTS OF TIHE ABORIGINAL PEOPLES OF

CANADA 3S. (I) The uistinc aboriainal and treaty ri&hts of

the aboriginal peoples t>f Canada a re hereby rccoa­nized and affirmed.

(2) In tbis Act, .. abori~l peoples of Canada .. i ncludes the lndia.n, lnuit and Mttis peoples of Canada." • -~

(6) by rcnumberina tbe. subsequent puu and c.J.au.Je$ ac:cordinaly.

And on the ameoclment to tbe amendment of Mr. Fulton, SCOOI'Ided by Mr. Brotdbent,-Tbat tbe amend· ment be amended by ddetin& the word .. exiltina ...

November 2S, 1981

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Colonnc 11 Modiricatioa

l9. Acte de J'A~ique- du Nord britan· n~ue. J97S. 23·24 Eliz. 11. c. 28, Partie J (Canada)

L'artlcle 3, modifi~ par l'anide l l de la ioi 25·26 Elizabeth 11, c. 28 (Canada), .. , abroat et rem· pl.aci par ce qui suit :

30. Actc de. l 'Am~riq~ du NOtd brit.an· ntque n'" 2. J97S. 23-24 EJiz. 11, c. 53 (Canada)

•3. Titre 1tbrqi de la Jri­sente partie : 1A1 ~OIUtltlltf(Nf· nt/lt ,./tit !9Jj_.

L'artide 3 eat abrot( et rem­place par cc q¥i suh :

•3. Titre atwta~ : Ld (:()IIJtf· lwlfOIInellt ~ 1 dt 197J ..

Et sur l'tmendement du mini1tte des Allllres lndien• ncs et du Nord canadien,~ le projct de Lol C4'Utl• twtiOMtll~ dt /981 qui f~.&ure da.asla motion du mlDiJ.. trc de la Justice (ArfaiJU &ClU't'Ct'DCmCiltale&. motion ,_. S6 du aouvernement) paruc dus k FWII~t()ft du fundi 23 novcmbre 1981 aoit modirtC par:

") insertion. apr~ la lianc 19, Pl&c 24 d1111 Fnill#tfNI, de te qui suit:

.PAR TIE 11 DROITS DES PEUBLES AUTOCHTONES DU

CANADA 3S.(l) Les droits c:dstaota • ancestraux ou iav.s de

traitCs - dea people& n tocbtoncs da CaD&da tont COftfirmb.

(2) Dans la prbeate loi, .-peoples autoebtoaes du Canada• s'entcnd notammcat des I Micas. dct ln.uit et des MCtis du Canada.~ ' • :._ b) les cbanaem'cnts de. num&os de ptrtie et d•artidc

qulen d6coulent. Et wr 1e sous-amendemcnt de M. Fulton., appuy6 per

M. Broadbent,-Qu'on modit'ic ramcadcmea.t ea ret.raa· chact le mot eexistant,..

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71•~ Ct)fi.Jiilution H.,a, EriJ;. Nkl~·fl ( Vubo): Before you lea.,.e. the dlair,

Mild:am Sptakcr, :~ino:.:1 ttn t>'doct l;u;t night, •ben I WlU recxJgnilcd, th<:~ l•:tve bocn developments tbat require my fonber con.ii<kl'..ltion befott participatlns In the ddxtte. J wuuld thec.:f<-rc a~!.: t11111 in my t tdld you re1.-ognize our critic for fndilln urf,.rn~, tbe bon. member for Wt.taSki• l.n (Mr. Sehcllcnbo:rQer).

Mr. l"i:rurd: ,.bdam Speaker, ..--c. on tbi' side will be J lad to ugree to th:~t . t:«ause unan.imous oonJoent is roquired. In udditiOt'l, I "''OtiJd like. to. confi rm tb:u lhue wert talks amon.a the reprdentat.ives o.f the pq..rtiC$. 1t 9CCms there will be un:animolls coosent that tbt ltt~Stb of speeches OC'I t.he su~ ariW!itdmcnt be limited to 20 minuttll, bcginnina now. f wo11ld lil:c ooolirml!tion or tbllt. Tbis 9CCms to be t he case (tom discusslon.s I had with the boo. metnbtr for Yul:oo (Mr. Nielscl'l} and tbi: actin& Uome k;rder fw the NOP.

1\fr. Nic~ Th1&t is o.srcc:abfe, Madam Speaker.

Mr. DtaM: Msdall'l Sptal:cr, we haw I'll> <•bjec1joQ 10 reducing the kngth of the: ~peedu:s. I untkntood that was: witb ;1n eye to ''Otin.c on tbe subatn(D<ftn(nl ud the amt-ndmetu bcfor~ -six o'clock thi~ eo~nin&

Mr. Pinard: to.b~am S peaker, we certainly do no4 object to \'Oting on tbc ame•ldinttrt ~Uid subamendment at six o'doek today. I underst-11nd the hon. member for Yukoo is io a bette:t pc.lfition to speak on behaJf of his patty.

Mr. Nidw:ft: Madam Speakct, when I became House lo.oadtr, in my first meeting and in 11 .w~~Jent meeting wilb 1he goYernment House lc.1.der and tbe ac:ting Hc.~sc leader of the NDP I as.wred tbctn tbat tbe diieuulot~s betwtttt u!l woukl be oonlide11da.l and not e.J.pl)l:led oo the lloor ()(the Ho~sc of Comm~>ms.

• • • Thi$ is tbe first breacb of tbat Confidentiality. h does not

bo<k well for oor future di~-u»)()n:~ if that l lnd ()/' CllPQIJUrc is P ns 11> t:.l:c place:. I am tatkjng about tbe submissioo just 0014' made b)' 1he a-ctjng .House leader of tbe. NDP relatins to di!Oeu.ssioos whkh were ~d be!wern the gQvcrnment UQUse lca.der 11nd him and the government House lcadet and mc:­scparatcly, but in tbe r~at .. re.oh Hoose leaders' ll'ltetl.ng.. Tbat l:ind of thing, is 001 going. l(t llelp «:Q-op«atiqn in the Hot;~tie Q( Commons.

Wbett I u.st< the ttrm conOdendallty, th:!l is euctly what I m~n. that djscU:Uions will remain confidendaL Othe: wise we wiU set ittto the kind of Us:sk that was cvldem ptlot to the summer rcocss on tbe !loot or tbis Hou.se ol Commons "''itlt n:spe« to nqotiations, and I do not think tbat is at all hdp(u.l.

ITraMI41ltm] Mr. Piaanl: Madam Sp«~ier, I am afraid there is a mjsun­

dersttndin& and ch111 the fa('tS are bcin.J misinterpreted by tbe btm. member for Yukon (Mr. Niebe:n). f in;t o( all, be is referrins IQ the situ;lli<M'I bcfiJofi:. the: 11ummer re:-=css, whtn hiil bon. prtde<:d:sor initiated tome ltu:momble ii(trtl!tnent•. lt1 rny opinion be would pctt.aps find it hoclpful to follow the e:.umpte ol his pred«mot, because Yte did. in bee. obtaifl very satisfac­tory rc:stdlS tllat ba~ been bcDCftcial to P.arliamcm aod to this oouJ'Ilry, I WOILid Hw:reforc ufl( bim to take a le:uf from the book of tbc hon .. member for Nc:pean.(;'arlcton (Mr. 01.1k;cr), He also mentioocd tbat we had 11.n unden;liJ!Idin& that tbc: oonte.nl$ o( our discu$SiOI'd .. -ere nOt ta be: revealed, and I etruinly do aare:c. In it.n)' c;ue., I am the ooe wbo made tbe request in tile f'i.rst p4ace .. HO'Ao'e\ler, I thillk that wbtn the bott. rncn•bcr railed to understaOO. wb«1 the bon. melllbct for Hamj!ton Mountain (Mr. Deans) mentioned the possibilit)' or having a Y(l(C at six o'docl: this ~'tning on tile $Ubnmendmenl and the amendment is, tbat, as I unde~tard it, the hon. member for H11milton Mounwin <lid not d isd0$t! Ilk CVI•tcntll Of ()ur dbcu.~$iOIU. .He. WllS refcrrff\8 t(l wha.t Sotmtd 10 him tO be :a proccdurc-tbut would be-acceptable-to all tbc:. paltitll.

I agree that the contenl$ of our discu$$iOn$ "h<luld no1 be diKIO&c:d, On the OChe:r hind, it is f'tt}' difn<ult whe:n lln <~arcemen t is I'Cllicbcd 10 ;~YQid I'I:Yeuling it$ ii:ubiltal)(;e if we want it lO be a_pptlloved by the Hou~e. In tb.:~ <ir.-cun~nou, I ean a~ure: tbt tu~n. n1cmber fOf Yukon that, in tbe future. we sl\:111 be wry careful noc to ofTctld his gc:ns.ibilit.ics. but ..--e aJso wa.nt to be ptactical. Some of our agreements will ha\•e to be made public il ..--e want tbcttl to be approved by the Hoosc. We shaJI have to properly define wfltat cons.tilutC$ an IISr«mcnt aAd whilt constihtiC$ u di~\lssiofl . 0fKlt tha1 1$ :settled, I :•m more than willing. ;~ nd l 11i11i(J would ~l$k the hcn1. ll'lember, tu respect tbe cunf'idendallty (l( uu.r diieu~loos. Thcr< are SJOO)e areu, .,r ouu.riPC, wbtrt· we mu.s1 bt. Rex-.ibk eno·u.gb to undet· stand d~t we are so ciC6e eo reaching an agroc:menl that tbcte is not.h1ns ttsajnst ln(:ntiooiAg the discus.1ions tbat hi\'t just taken place. In this c;a.se, I asaumcd that "''t •·ere • greed on a; 20-minute limit on $pcocbes. The boo. member for Yukon tel\ tbc floor, "''t d lsc:ll$$cd thi.s priv;~ tcly ;~nd he did n(lt bold it aaa.inst me. He Sllid: VC' tllat U true, we do agree .. We did not ;~grec on this p(lint in tbe mei:t.ing but ..-<e fi naUr.ed the matter here. I at..'lumt- that wbst 1he hol\. 1nembcr for Hamihon M<~Unt.a in said about tbe \'Ott oo the Sllbamendlnent a nd the am.cDdmeat being held at si.x o'doc:k tbi:s evenina • ·as said with the same intent. I \fl'<lnt to 8$SU.re tbe hon. member for Yukon that "''t ba\'C DO intet~tion of dtscJosin& ~he e»ntenl$ of our

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meetings in tbc. future, but .,~ must be: fkxibk tnough to aoctpt that ooce an ugrcc:IT'Ienl is rcachecl, we $lwQJd be abk to CJ~;phtin bow it w.as rea<:bed, wbat it '~~>'t!l about 81ld how it is to be implemented by this House.

[Eng/IJJt) Mr. Nidw•: Mad~tm SpeAI:er, I was noc referring to tbc

agroement on 20--minute .spcccbes. That was agreed upot1. r 'l''aS ooncetned abo..it the subj~t mauc:r vohi.ch •-ent bc)'Qnd lh01t .and •·h.icb wu n1ised by the hon. mcmbef fot Hamilton Mountain. The 80\'Ctltll'lCJU HouSle leadet kft me with the impressi(ltl that that •'C.IUid be tile s11bjcx:t mau" or ructber d'i~lil$$ions this afternoon. That was going to be discuued priv:ucly. W~ wtte in a three·'olo2Y OCII.'Iver$8tion as I-IQII5C lezdcrs when Hwt dilitussioo took plaoe.

I am DO( going to stand idJy by .and .see any pqlit-ial ma~uvrlng by tht:s<: two po.rt.ie$ tlwt are io bed IOfdhcr in an effort to cmbanass us. I am prepared to sit dO'Il'n at 311)'

time witb the otb« HouS~t leadeN in ~ O'>nfide:nti~l way to dLicu.~$ wa)'$ ~~;nd mcaB.S or expcditill.J Hou.se busiDC$$, but if "''<: cannot ha\«: coofldcntiaJity io those mcetil'lgs at1d discus· .sions,the "''bole: J)IJrpo:lc ill ddtruyed.

I asree witb the gO'I\\rnmeot H~se leader that at the appropriate time~ should a House ordct be nocts:s31'y, or $boll.ld it be net~ry 10 inform all members or tbc: HooK wh;ct tbe boll!Sine:ss ia e<Jing to be: a11d bow it is ~oint to be handled. at that time, abouJd it be. ti.._'C'dsaty, tlte cnecti lt8il and the: Ju bjct:t matter thereof will b«vt:nc P'•blic. I h;~ve ndOpecd the standard throoJ,hout .. sinc.:e oor fin 1 Hoose n"teding. of noc discussing anyt.hi.og tbat &OC$ on there- ...tth membo:n ('I( tbt- mcditt; or :~ ny.:mc el$t. My ~1QCk ll.ll:$'A'C:r baa boen that th<e disc~ioas tbat take plaoe between House !cadets in Hoose kad~rs· •nocti11gs are-confide-ntial. I intend t(l k«p them tl\.11 WII.Y. If we-want to t~tart oh' oo a fresh rooc and keep tbc:m t hat way. that is fioe; that is tbc: •·ay it "''ill be. But iJ it ill the inteotion 10 have. tbL1 ltit'ld of' bypli1y tb.1t took plAce IC)(I:t)' a boot voti_f\3 on t he t~llbamc:ncfment aDd the amendmcot today. 'A'bco tbosc­disws.sioo.s bad not yet beta completed, ::u far :u I am eonctrned. betwet:n l'lo~ ftll cf.c:l'l. t hen l h<~l is I he time that HCX!K le~ders' mectinp halve Jo« any ~.JSerul purpose. lhhat is tbe maoner in ll'hicb-

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Mr. Ou.u: Oh, 'it down.

Mr. Nidseru The member fClf H~miltan Mo11ntain !18.)11 to me, "01), sit dowrt'', tr t]le boo. member red:~ tbat retainln! a bi_gh standard of 00ltfide0tlali1y i.n Hou~c. ludt:r$' n•cctinv-

Mr. Ottns: lt is: not a high tt.:~t~d:trd, it i:~ a IQC q( nonnnsc.

Mr. Nielse~a: If he t hinks that m)' intent ion to adhere to that high .standard Is being an alii, t hen I c::an cmly " Y to him that he hll~ ~~~ entirely different ide. of bow proceedings b«e s.hot~ld be ClOflductcd in an approJ)fiste fashion.

Sc·lflle "'"'· MeNko: NI:Qr, !t-ear!

Th~ COJtstlnulon

Mr. Nlt~te•: J would like tbc. assurance rrocn tbc gcn-trn· mcnt House leuder, 11i1110t: thit~ m~~tter hall ((lime-. up, that Ju: intends to keep those. diswliSiooll ooafide.ntial, If I. do not g-et it from him. tbcn I "''ill bow bow to ooDduct myself in the futurc.

So~e ha. Mutkrs: Hear, hear!

Mr. Pi•anl: 1t happens orten in wr mcc1il!8-$ thot art not iruititutionali.zcd that we will have discussioas. that we-. ha~'C to i9 bnck. to <M!f re::spcct.ive cau<l.lSCS to t~ubtoit prOf)Wlllll UJtd then come back and n\al:e up an agreement. Most or what is s:aid M)()ner Or lln a ill known by our 0\tln eauC\lstS tnd, thererorc:. ~ koown by tbe press.

Mr. Nit'bot•: Not through me.

Mr. Pinatd: lt is very diffieuh to keep a bsol11 tc:ly ()OJIJiden· tlal "-'bat is di~~«~SS!ed 1.n Otlr ~etin_g;1 . For cxam.pk .. rouowing wr negQCiatiotts on tbe de;bo.tc of the; CollS-tituti<m, 'A"e c.tgrcocf to consult with our rcspccti\•C eaiK:uses t his morning and

11ubroit propos.11.h1. lt is \-.:ry dil'rtc:uh then h) guarantee the confidentiality or wbat has bec:o dj$Cussed in the previotls HOu$t le:sders' mcctlat;' If wt subtnh il to ttU Members ol Purlia.mwt. I CUJ'Ioot zuurantec th;~~t l:l~s Clltu:ull will nM keep to:ltaUysccrc-t what we discos.i in oor House leaders· mtc:til!CS.

Mr. NltiMII: Let me: draw one. c:nmple. The gor;<:mmct'lt Howe k ackr culled me to the bac::k or the dlambcr ilt about ten minutel to three.

All •""· Mt•kr: Yo11 are d isc;losing t~c::c:rttll now.

1\tr, Nkke•: We. bad o discu.ssioo in wbicb <:c:tUI,in proposal!; weTe put to 1ne lnfdving a discussion between himself and tbt NDP HouK leader. 1 Mve not )~I even h<1d tbc opportunity of inrorm.ing.m)' leader ol the content or those djsc:us.sions before they w~ expokd l)n the OOi>r of the- Hou11e or Comn.ons. I a~k )'OU wbc:thcr that is dooel)()'?

Mr. Dftas: I do oot quite: underst-and what this 1$ oJI about.

Mr. Oark: Tbat is right.

So111e •o•. Me•lt«l: UtaJ, be;&r!

Mr. Duos: F'ttst or all, I wam to suggest tbat if it is the intention Q( t~ Jii)<Ulle Jc11der rc;,r t he orliciaJ Op~itiOn I<• turn -everything into a political wrangle, tbc:n be "''ill destroy "''hat· ner opportunity tbtre ls (or co..ope:r:u£on.

An •ora. M~•kr: Righ1 on.

Mr. Ocus: I wunt to .i:•r rurther tllll l by rilling ~nd indiat. ing tbat there was agreement ror 20--minute speeches. at that point there wllt lln 2dmi11tion that there bad bee-n a meeting. ;~nd that th.-c rnnucr had been di:;cu~ . AJil wll!l dqing Wll$ asking •·b«het other matters that had OO::n dit~~sscd bad b«n left out inadve:rtet1tly m wh~thcr or not at sont-e .wbse-· qucnt poi{tl in time there WOI.IId be r~o~rther dit~Cu$$-ion.

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Tlw l'Ufutltutlott.

At f&r •• I ant t{IIM:C'tiiCd. whill~r 18\ Cf pi•C:C' 111 t-IO!.MC kedcn' cnoocti,nc•. ,to f~t u the Ho.~tc kade:r for the Toric. U C'Ot'lttrfltd, '-1• a~t~ lnbutfol'l is zileh anyway,

M•4•• Sfedn; J u~r:uand from thl1 u:chanae thAt the HOUIICI 1\a• 13r«d upon a limiuetion ol 20 minute. for tpcccbu. h this for today ot forth~ tt~lire deboltt

Mr. Nlotlln: For the subamel'ldment.

M.M .. S,abr: A&n:ltd ud to ordut'ld..

Mr. StM ~ (Wdall.hwill:): M..sa.m Spea.ka, lMout ol Llw time limit ~PMCI •poll IM:mbcn aJid tk laponucc of tat ~ tUr il bt(Ote • today. 1 WOilkl fib to lilait M)'ldf 10 ~kin& OD the- IIMMC!Mdt.

T•it raol•tiM. as wt' bow, IMJ bca piU beef«~-. M.any or..., 11 lnd•'fld•al members, can ti:nd ~ •h.J OfiiC MetiOI'I or uotllcr il not io a stnSe pc:rf~'t to us. w, fftlmany slloutd be lell 0111 01' oche~ indudcd.,

One tuft~ that I$ of impc>rtancc to me •• a membtr, and to muy ochc:r me.mbel'l in tb.is chamber, hiUI been the: lcavina out ol the aboriginal clause and now the prOI)Oillll th:u 1t be replaoocl. We Wllnt lo trc..at ebb 11 • vc:ry MrioU$ IIJnCJldmcnt altd bopc that •>e QID contribute to tbe th(H(Jhlli aod dc5.irea o1 all JMtlia to deal with this ln a 111e:rious munet.

I br.lkvc: it it cut~~tla.l for Ollf aborlsiAal pcopla tha.t ehd,­trc~ty ripu be n:inS:ta.tcd lo tllit cbai1Cf. ltooc:ntlr I •mt'"'" etr.c: Qlftltni11cc rcporu a1 the time tile wonli111 of~ l4 wu 4ilar.acd. l'hl.1 was beet o. Ju-t}' )0, AI ~~ liow;llw fcdi~~t~ wu. ~t dat tiUs w;u • ~ lalnork rnomem. h .,.. elllc aakniaatioa of IQOI,u. ol ~ ot rcan o1 U.rd WOtt by tile NLiW &rou:ps •nd • detmniflltiofe bt all pardc:i­Piftll fillillly tO come 10 $OOlC OOftdusion, Jt wu a ckdir;atioo IO I prirte:i.ple.. Tbat allouid not be: OYetlook«i,

Thla procftl ol constitutional f'C'newal hu boon Ot'laoinJ (Of

Many )'(llfl, l t toolt a deci1ivc atep fotward on Utt cYCfling of October l, 19!30, wben the Prirn~ MinlttC"r (Mr. Tr~uta) In a lekvbc:d t llltt-ment bcpn witb lhac word•: "A OC:!Hury tenc.l lhlrtocn yc:af'5 aco. a group of remarkable poopte laun<:bcd a rcm.rbWc tndtavour. Thc:y crcatt'd a COI.Itltry."' Whi~ tlx lratben or Confederation indetld dJd create a ~w

politk:IJ uait. • new ootuuty. Ca11ada, it Is tJOmetirntll too e.uy to~ lllc olwiovs. Tben:: ...-as 110t only a tafld •JIOn whidl C._. •u buitt i • ~moe i• 1367. btn ahttc tbo were tile oriti ... iUatwu.Att tlw wue llete loe& br.lote ••r &ltopeU •ukn tmi'pted to at.iJ ta:ad. A aoc:icty, • Qlh•re. • .,...,. « life. uitctd in C.Mda. Mc:n prcei:sdy, a 11111nbc:r o1 c.ll•m t•ltlcd ill lhd COia&UI)'. A) Wit flOW COIIcifiUC with lk t~ti\'OIIt. as is pi'O'rided in Seccioa )6 olehlt rnol•don, tbtSC aboriain•l riallta IIL\Ist be defmed. 1t will be 1 very dirr..:"lt qu•c !« the povi~~. tbe federal &OVtm~nwnt ud tlle r.atlvc peoc~leto denne "'hat are aboriai:nal ri,a.hts.

At I tlid, many c-ultures u isted ln thla country, As a rault. 1t wUI be dlfnc-uh to sit down and ~Nh • ckfiniii<HI eh:. I • ·ill COllet 1111 ol 11Kw p<~Ue ical e:ntitiu tbltt ulated 1nd •bat riJbts tbey now hllVe beca\lse of lhOSlC ln this .natttan. Tl1e llldltwous

people$ INvc: lived tn C.n11d.a for 1bousand11 of yan. When t!M .sct.Uen aNi"c:d• they were. wdoomod. The Indian 'ommllnity Dt\11!7 autnlpted 10 ini()OM iu. way of life or its cuhctc: ot1 the Eu~ll.n .ettlcn AI lht linw. In fllot t tbc:y 111oc:l<:()m<tl lh<* settlers. They 1llo.,.'Od them to live i.n a different aelture and climate. TIM!y vve lhentcllamplcs and tbl:-abiJity to deal whh l be CXJIIIntl')'.

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M~;11y times thc:J have wi1tcd iw lbc C10C1Diry's -1dva.noemmt ~the )UI'L For tumple.. i• tbc ._..,of 1812. ~ 9,000 l.adiaa ._..,.,.,... foqllll at •lllu ol C.U.d&. D.nft! t..o ......U ....,. 11.000 IMY.• pciOCik: caliatcd ..S foo".&Gt ort the lick o1 lite alliu., aad away ol t11ca-. c.Mir liw:s..

£t'ta today as a OOU.Glry ~ .. Ye llCWU ltdeqatdy «<'01-­nqm our a;~tivc YflCTaM. Wc ettattd the lMbn Act which ma.ay felt Wit patcrrulit.lk. We: cn&tcd CC$Cn'C$ whictl pbccd nativt peopk lA l.fOUJ» on tma.ll ttacu of land whicll, in ma11y i!U1-1n~ we tno..&hl ,...,. '"wthletl.s 11.t the tlme. We did nut allow tbcse pco,.e the ritht to vote and to putic:ipatc in p ·c:rnment until rcocntly. At o.1e p<)i~t wt: did not allow thc:m the risbt to drink alcohol. N(Jw we wonder why they 3rc fighll11g so hard 10 hove their ricbts entrenched in th~ Conlill .. lotion.! Ba,K:ully it ti boc111UC tbt)' •w-vet had 1be. rigbtt "''hleh we a«ept .. ftatural since the foundin.a or (..";r,nlldll. in 1867.

Many timet (n out bbaory .-c have fou.nd that the tract~ cM Ja.I'Mf set uiclc wc:tt: valuable to •s. Therefore. we took «rtaift of thole para:k o- bc'Aalf ol ~u.. 'The cutolf ltltdl ill BritA Coh.mbil I N a prrl".ca c..u.111pk. Of CICICI"'Ie. tbc: uthw reac:tcd •itll raJilde svspkio. t l tire time. We CJtlmd iato dte Jamcs Bay ~ bta:.e we llee'Citd a ,_." ICIII'Ct, and it ~ iMIIKdi.udy im.port.~nt to settle abl'wipql ri.glu:s .. Ttut wu alto tile c:tte •it• rea;~ to the Bea•(ort Sea. We. W1!nled IO build a plpdl.n~ (!'OM t.be YulcOit, t!ti'OIIJtl Alberta, eo the United Sc.tc:a: wddc:n l1 it bec:tme imp:wtunt 10 deal '~With the ()O(IOilpt ol oboriJiRal richta.

Basically Jodl:an pco,We Wt:JC: Immature: poljti'-'*liY, b\11 the-y urc m<wina wry mpldly eo iJ&in poBtical maturity. They virt~U~IIy had no •>eoponll becuun tl'tc:y !~cod .11 difftr~nl klr~d of' b•• from th11t to •hich tbcy were aoctmomcd. We impo~~c:d (Jillr taw. They (aood 11 lfl.l!Od\'t cult11.re Ul~ deplorable: llvltta OOI'td:itiom.. alcoltollun, CJO"C'rtyand u .ncmployment. No• they &re r .. ced with bdt~a dall • Wow as fal .. tbcir ri&)lu a~ COIICXii lied. Tlldr rllflt• • ~ n,. i• tile Constit•tion. thrtl 01.11 or tbe Cortslitut.ioft Now lhqr are tMd: iA api• al!d o.e wont it iadudcd na k c:a.ldoi., ,_, OOOCCt'D.

Wllm "' ~ a JfOUp ol piCIOIIk wiUI $11Ct. a Mlory lONe

!lope tlult f~NIIy a• amtedmca& • ID lbt pbctd la t.M-Comtil•· tiotl wbktl · ·ill cM tkrn tome. I$Wnna q/ cqu.:~.l riahtfl and olwbl ljrc ~abori.cinal riJhU, aDd the~~ they fi.nd it take-n 0111, if it any wood~ tl:lq ractrd In the: m:tnMr they did? A sti'Ofl8 aod coutageoull voice hl1s dG"Ciopc:d. Natin: pe<lflf-e ma~hocl on the Hill. illey dlapl;a~ed u condu~t wbiclll wish. many olhcr group& woold d~pf11y when n'IIHC:hin.g <ln the HUI, spea.kln£ f<lr their ti.ghts.

S.•r IM•. Me•Nn: Hnr. hc:arl

.. COMMONS DEJIAn5 um

Mr. Se-lid~ Tb~ i5 wby I t.m aql'}' • 'bel) I hear f.1C10P1e oomplairt that the reason lbc ricbu •ere rt-mOYed ~ns bocluae l\lllive people CQUid '* •ar« amona lllem~elvtll whether or 1\1011 Scc:tioo )4 4hould be inducktd. They fiC''tt tcatc:d 1h111. They stated that btCli.~AW olth• dtnn~ti4t'l tl.au$e il W/IJ n(lt c:nuu,&h. that it ma)' ool mc;m nnythln.l nmrc tb1m they huvc at 1hc prC$Cnt time. All they ba~ b«B rc:quelltin& over I be month a is iOmethinl 1note-!pte:lnc to derln( lt<&itim21e •butlainul riatu•. Secause ol cb~&t c:oB«rn ar.td, u I aaid bc!on:, acnuinc mistrust. is it aoy 'f'«<det thct woc.ld tik tor MO« u br u reeognJtiqn of m:bof~nal riatl-. it ~mod'! No •Ol'ldcr lllfC't, puie a.OO cyaicbm mt•lrcd native people •lk• tky lnr.rd they b:l beat dtVf'I9Cd (n>M 1-.c eluflcr. At b.fl ic b •IOmcaocb:bk. To lllall it wu lk lltac i• • loq ..... of bn:ltd Jlf'OOiisc$.. 1lrcy fda ..,. .... bttn)'Cd •he-a they wtft dftlpped from the: durttt. We _.. 111116 tUt tllcy arc ttcuimald)' .MI$plc:ioa$ or tbe llltW .... .. ubdi'IJ'" OOft· .. iMd Jntbe amendmeJit.

Thlt • ·onf Ius taken U$ all b)• surprbc. Many of us: arc ultcmplln.a to dcJi.DC it, to fiDd out what it le&lly ma.nl. Tbe I.Jun. Mini.mr of Justice (Mr. Chrhien) 111Ml the Uot1. Minis· h~f ol lndinn Mrail'l nnd Nortbern Dcvcklpmont (Mr. Munro) l•u ured ut tbtlt it in no way cllanged the nleanifll or the tell! of tbc lllllendene.ttt be(.:.rt: ~ lt Is tbe uunll! IWW, 'A>It11 the 11o~d "c.d.t.tlna"', u it wp:s before without the w«d,

We In our party fed tbat it is CMCntlal to rC"Januc Section J~. •h.ich is now S«tion JS. We ue pk.ucd th'*t t~t t. the caH, b.t •e tbo tcalile the ttc:mendou imponan« wllic:b is bdna plattd epoa Ue ftderal pu..cftl. ,....~taow,... ... u and Mtnre pcopc q/ t.be laMS to def'i• .tt.1 tltac riPu are. If .-c arc to be faced witlt IJlOlbc1 ~ac~~t. aiiOdlct word ,.cb .. -mUQc-. 11 fdy .u.ta: a OOftfC1'CftCt so .,..ea. 1n0re 1mpoM:11nt.

lkcauie of the malltl~ ill •·bich the raolullon hat bctt'l dttfied and bocau..oe Secti<~a 36 hit boe:~t lndtHied, it '' fmpera· dv~ for ttlc H~~. s~ niDC provillOCf have ti111od the accord o.f'ld thue. was the. uMnimous movtn.cnt of t.hc Hou:se to llll\'t· nfl lh'C l(ahlt rtaeed in the C<•nsti lllllon IKfMC, to pi!IQC the btuvy burden of faith and hope of abori1in.tl pooplell upon tbe ~unrcrence: it is a tlemendoos undcrtakhta. ( kno .. tbe pri:pt· rttiotl ror the 4:on(c:rence will be very imput.lltll, but it tbo ph.c:el upon U;t IU lq:Eslatots a!MI upo~t tJte pn;wlnoet that ""'cd the a«ord t!l.e oti:lptiotl eo deal In 1 f•~r. Pf"P'r •nd lqhl~Nt~ m:all.wr with tbe cScrmil"KI~t ot •bori1lul riJhu.. Tllat will be the most imporu.ot pan ol tk ooa(cf'Cnte.

Wow.W it aot lu-"e: bcal bcuer few tht CIIMIIct'C!IIOr to lu~ utc. ptacc before. w tlu.t,we __., bow .tth .,.., -ate deal .. alld ...,.., aot Jaa~to~ a~n tl)'ina ton..t tile mc~•i'Jtl ol •'«dfi'? Would it '* ha~ b«tt bcctcr eo pbc:e be(c>r# che HollJC tbe hope thl.t abori.J:illll riJ,hu -auld be adcqwatdy deatt ~Aoith and adequ.atcly deft11ed' We -.'Oelld lbtll not ba-·o to return to the l'lo11.1e Lime •!:Id time IIJ!Iin to qwolklfl whether or not promi5e5 •'ere kept.

11 ~mlnd11 me of the J~mes Bay fihuaclutt, Wo .1lgnc:d 111n uveement t<t tnkc 0\'er oert11i11 IPnd-t. We lnclutkd in choc: nan:etnenl nriouli terms of justice which were J\IJ)I)Otltd to be

nt Ct~~tnirlld<Nt 111ptldd, 11Ki1 &I 'hoout•-"1 11nd ltlcalth care. Various mtmcy11 wer-e to be paid to dimipato I bel term .. aboriginal rights-. Now 'III'C find tllc: s.cwcrl'ltl.ent 0 ll'fie.& up to tbc. klter of tbc law. tbc mea.nin1 o( 'III'C)nll, but 1101 up tO the spi_rit or the 1.81fti'IW:I'II which tbe aboriainal peopk ol the area and .. -e u members or tl•e commlth:c fd t ._.,, h•d Ulko~~ in ~pecirte tcml!l. We reel ._..c -tbo .. ·cd 10mc ,pirlt o~t~l lfOO'tc rc11..S0n by wlltch the aarcc• meat abould bavc tllkCtl pltce, When. we now look al lbc ~Aowdina. b it any Wi)fldcr tht~t n~live people: a~ jultly eo~ cctncd. orpniLcd and ~byll\lllf to do the [iiJ~t China?

I know dme: 1'>0 very q11ltUy ud I ~w m!Kll moc~ I llloukl likC' to My, ··-H~. I mtrn tt~lc tiY:t Ji1110t 1911 litis patty blt1ood f011Ddty ia tbiJ HOUIIC (Ot 1bori,U..I riJbts.

lo 1913 a motion wu ~- In conuniuce by tbe ~~~m~bcr who is now the U:1ckt of the OppoJitiont the riJ,ht hon, membet rOf YclloWheld (Mr. Clart), I will ret~d jliJt OM sa.teDCe. frOn'l hi• tnodclfl.IIJ (ollcw.'S: - publicly •«Cfll 111d tnlh.lf'M" cht will «'~«PI or abofi&iu:ll titl•

Th.11 •'<IIJ 3\lpp>l'lotl by the lwo OpPQ~~itk>n pilrtiC$ a.l th.at time. We $Uind by tbll. Mr. Speaker. and we bavc slw,)-.'n thi• bY ou.r intmtiM to mov" onu~rte:etd.ment which we are ple:utd, tlirouah the ac;c;onl with the provi.nocs, tbe JOYunmcnl 1.-.IJ b«:ll able to trlO'fC, I.IJC wecl: wbett it seemed that abotithul ri&}lt:t would Id bl lncltMtcd in the- Ctlarttt of Rlallu aed Freedom&. "'1 <Oika.pa 1Jid I wen d«pp:J di:P•rbed. Till\ is wby -.·~ dti»c 11 we ci..e 10 rciauod~~ee tbe motioal 011 S«tioo )4.

Wbca tbc Couttt.U. k r ... n,. patriuc::d uc1 Cuad" .... ba'-c: t.hdr O..ttet ol RiJhu ._~ F'IC'eldotlu ud ha~ a )u$1 metbod of ame~~di"11br ~hvtklo in CaMih. how Ad h would bave boccl jfi'M)II all Canadians: coukf sbarc in lbe pride .and luppinm: of tltat t''Cnt, How trask it would ha'~ btC1I If one groop of C.nadifnt felt that cbcy had been t:Jdudcd and if that g,oup tbould have bocn IM abotiginal JICOPfcs.. That JiiUittiQfl W()Uld hii\'C been \lnlltC'epl.:lble tO mote• thilll thQ native poopks; it WO\Ild 1\a~ been unoc.:«pl-llble to this nation• al P..ttllamcnt ud tbil ~talion.

Tbe time ill nO\Il' ,laht (()t OJ tO IICI re$poo$ibly by tntrcndl• it1g abotiginal ,ia:hlJ la chc Canadiall Constitution. lbw. put· tins an end to tbc lnjtbtlmt o( hlsu)fy. of .-blc:b aooc of lllJ i& proud, and rqlladna them whh • pwitift c:b~t~&_.j(ll n a« o( zoocl hitb. 'f'IMI (tOOCI (akk .. IUI come- from d.t prGn..:U. tk fcdenl ,IV"U'R•IM1U aod tk fQiift' peoples ii we a.te <r¥U to mM Utis pobkM. llaopc 11uo1 win be: JoOOO. Mr. Spcabt.

s.-.. 1tn. Mmttwnc lttn. bur!

(Tra.~t.dDHOI'I] Ho•. J.•J, Blat-: (MI•I.!iltt 4tl S.pply ud Scn-1~•): Mr.

Speakc:r, ooc ool)' it h a ploature for me to rise, but I apprtdate. being 11blt to ptmlcipllte in this debate tod&)'. lt 11 o( ooot~ a bistorio oe<:atlon, porticuhu ly on Saint Cath«ino'l Day which giYC$ a ~et)' tpoclal meaning to lbc ~bite, Mr.

.. I 3'27& COMMONS DEBATES Nov-ember 2 S, l98 1

711~ Comtittttlon $pca):c:r, I wu in d1e House last Friday wben the Minister of JustPce (Mr. Chr(tic:n) i.ntnxh~ccd tbe omended resolution. I (eft there Wl» in thi$ Hoq,1~e 11. OOOSCI\S41$ lll'C lik<$ of whi(;h I b:id neY"er ~en bcf<Wc on n.ch a b.1sic qu~ion. Nutur<~lly i~ tOOk ~Wk. some time-to rt 3ch a n ll,&rc:cmc:nt. but lhc: event$ of lan Friday rtaUy war'mOO ooe's h~ft bteolasc all members on both sides of the Hoose rt::~.dily accepc.t<l t ile promises ~de by the Ministe:t of Justice.

If w~ eon.~idcr the-rule pi<~~ by the Min~er of Ju:uke. Mr. Speaker, we really have to c~ttcnd Qur conyuh,!l:lliQIU to hinl fcx w~t tu: d id :and for hi$ OCM:Itri~utioQ to t he i:~·cnl$ we are whM>Ssin,& ••Ow. Ht. wlti the: <:hicf nt~iator fot tlu~ government. he worked Ions ;end \'t ry h:Jrd a nd never gnve up,. Mt. Speak«. u.ntil be had final!)' crnnpl~tcd thb arduoos t:ul:. I have al90 read i:tt ~esterday's HMsard tbt ~.narks msde eonc:c:ming the aborigin.aJ rights and tbc aMwers g:h·c:•• by the. Minis:ter or Justic~ I find it difficult 10 uodentand wby mcmbeC'$ opposite should rais-e objections about one additional •-ord, 1he • ·qrd whj.:h me:.tll$ I~ exislina uborisinal risht$, d~l is ,..,~)' thllile wll_il:.'h :'I re eonfirmc:d by c~n;utian bistmy. Indeed, i! we ;,re. tallt:ing abl:,ut llborisinal right$, :~bout traty rl&ha, it is because those ril',hts do e-...:lsL

We e<~Mot expe~ the ereation of arn:estral « aboriginal riahl.$ i:n the nc;.lr future beCilu~. aner $11, when we are t<&lkine aOOut the nature of anccstrul riJ}IItl •1re imply th~t lbUI;c-rights u.i td to belong tu our anot:tl(W~ :1nd since they lii'C no l<mgcr whh us tbe rights must bave bdcM'Igtd to t~ ana:-c::~tol'l wOO. of eoutse. ba,•c siDCt· died. C<wu1id~ring lh:H we -.oannut ulk about fu tlire rights. I do not set atl)'thing • rortg witb tl.at additional word. If it •'8.5 added. as: t he Minister of Justke has: already said, it was indeed to make explici t somethi.ng which wa$ alrcudy implied i.n S«4ion }4 when it was inserted in the lil'lt <X.Ifl~~ituti<Jtwl pr(.)p05o1l. The wwd .. e:cis.lins .. ha$ DOW been added :(imply tO meet tbe noquiremcn\11 q( ocrl•in prov· ince$ that wanttd a more sptclfic w'<lrdins:. ~h1rcaYrtr, wiKn we say that we are tvatc!ul to the. Minister of Jus-lice. it is obvious tblt the architect of tbe. OOtlStitut)onal propoial, its principa.l mO\'Cr. namely the Prime Mini.stet of CaBada (Mr. Trudeau). d CIOCf\'CS the thanks or on Canadiam foe the elforts he 1\as put in this pc-oject. 11 is bceau,;c of ltis: foresight, his 5ense of histocy. h_is IQ~~·e of jUltioe. h.is pc:.rsi5tenoe and bi.s palienoee that .,.-e now hllw: before Ul( a con~ti llllionn l pn::~pwu l of tu.Jell ~·

'fhc contribotion of the New DemQC:raeUt Pt&rty, .and C-\Cf'O•

ebllv of its leader, should. be $ingh:d out be-.·ou&$C:· lii.S'l )-e:·,r, wtu:;, .,.·e were. fooling for si..ppbft. it w il.$ tlu:- New Ocmott:Hi<: P.J.rt_y and its le:~der who gave us tb:l t allbnoe, tbat support whieh proved essential to maintain 1be principles included i.n the oonstitutional propos.aJ. Tbe lc:ader of the NDP sbowed a kJil of eovrar.e because he did not 1\al.'e the $Upport of all his 1.'¥\KUII, 1,1nd wo kno"'' th<tt t ltc::re were divi$ion_s .,,ilhin t.h.olt group for l((lmc time. Be hdd on and even <:onfrontcll hi:( own n~n·• bi:rs. Wt: are also all indebted 11) the premiers ()r the an!lopbone pr<Winccs. Tl~y have bdptd us achievto tbt fi.u l

oonsensll! :wd they bave also a.g:tced to the compromises whk h were e.ssential to acllie\·e it. I am pcrsoB8Jty grateM ·to them lt>r hti;Ving agreed 10 S«tion 2J of the ChtHt« of RightS. AS)'OU kllUW, Mr. Spe:1kcr. ScctiQn 13 i:l very $1:-11$itlve bo::::-~u.se it ll:t.Jiu·.n•ted the: cdu<:atioiUII rigbu o( fr2nC<~phUnt:!l qutlidc. Qud>e<:,

Ju re!X'utly :IS 12 lllOQthi 41\0, w•!ln w'Oul<l. ha \'C bdl~e ... cd t hat the Englisb·spea.kiog pt'O'lo'inces atld t heit' gO\•etnmcnei would agree to s:ubmit frtdy to the rcquiren\etlts of Section 23 and to relinquish part or their jurilid.i«ion in tbe ficld of edue11tioo as provided ill ~ion 231 for myp.trt, I would not ba\'e believed it, ~use of my long e:<~p<:rieoce of the man"" in wltich fra.nQOPhone minoriti~ ovl$f,Jc Q1w:bec .,.-ere e,kuh with. I have llltel.ldy l()ld t.he 1-tqu.~e of my uperience At t~c-lu.IOI when I was unable to 1Htt'11d a F'rtnd1 seoondary school in Ontl'trlo. Since all Ibis ha.s already btctl put on the reootd of the 1-lous.e, I will not t~t iL H<W~o'CVef. Mr. Speaket. I bad another exJl(:"ti<:I\Ce as a young law)'Cr in Toronto. J was tben approached by Frcneb-C.all3dian parents from Midland. in Sirneoe OOtltlt)', who wanted Freoeh latlj:UII.Je education in that oou11ty, not even at the secondary IC\•d, only at the primary IC"'d, At that time. )'\IU 'had to uppl)' to tbe Je_pQr.lte school bc>ud for this right. Our f'CilUtsl ""'All turned ckw.·n. ( t hen .,.-ent before: the $Cp:• rat~: .schOOl ba~rd in S1mooe c<lutlly in Ontario, whCli:. tltere: is '11 large proportion of fta..copllonC1!. to ask for Ftt1~h

sehOO:Iing.. Our request was firml)' denitd. Tbe members of the. sebooi board •·ere very nice and \ 'Cry polite.. but they wue undet oo oblitr,ation to rewgnitt these right$ whie.h 111-e had always QOru;M)cred as OUI'$. Wben I was 11 youna huJ, we., Franeo-Ont.arinrcs tbw,&ht th:tt .,.~ hnd a right t () be-W u<:aled in (IUr mc'lother tOngue. But t h:ll ri!ht Wl1S nM el(:arly t:cprelscd in tlte Conuitution .. Wh:u 'A'C haw done now is to J>'fecisely 11pd l it out.

• (1.~1

Furtht:rm(lft, • ·ith rtgard to secoOOary odueation.. whet~ J was li1 Torooto. I sat M lhe adviS«)' commiuec on Frc.nch lanr.wr~ge v.•hose purpose was the establishment of a Fren(;b high sc.hool. That took four yeal'l or hard • ·or\. Mr. Speaker. In o la11c cit)' Jjke Torooto, where tbere are two miJJ;Qn peqple and 6(),000 Fret~eh Cv.ondinn:s, there wa~ a re;&l need rm 3u.:h n ~.:}lool. Yet th;&t proc;e$$ tOOk f~r years. I h:~ve aiso Seen lhe fru~trati(ln t Jtpc!rienotd in oommunlttes throughout .Onuuio - ·bt:n the.y tried to set up F'ttf)Cb school ~. Wb)•? Btcaus:e tl1is: c:smc- twder tbe b::al sehool bootdi a.nd n(l( the PfoO\•i.ncial @'O' 'etnmcn.t u such. Eve.t)1bing was alm0$l in oomplete cllaos. Vet. all that ~ pas:t now tJoe.use Section 23 ICCQJI.n.ize.s minori· ty language rights. Despite the tC!itrvations some ml.l.)' ha,-c. 1 am quite pleolled -.•itb the "wbere numbc-n; w11rr.mt" pr~·it:ion . Rjzbt.s :-~re J!lliH'II!Itced bot tbei'C has 11) be t nough u uclenl'l 11) Jllstil'y tbe setting up (I( French clas~~: or o r a F'rtn.cb sebool. Wh.:11 pk;Ue<~ me is tht faettl.al the .. where numbers • •atr!ru" pro'lis-ion. wUI be intetprcted g<:nerously by &Jlglopbolle prov· inces. p~lscl)• bce:lus.e the)' ba\'C acocpt-.'<1 Section 2.3. They

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will 1hc:rtrore be "''iUi.ng 10 3ivc. a g.cDCroos i.nlerptetation to cbat pr01o•ision so chat as man)' students 85 possible can exercise tbat risJn.

n.e .secood rt:U<lfl wby I lUU ll<lt 100 OOf'ICtttltd "''ilb ilw: 'O.Wbett lllllll~rs warr.ant'1 proYi!liot1 iJI S«:tioo 23 i3 tbat it will be up to 1be oou.rts to ct1foroc-iL Ill his speecb. the· Leader or tbc OPJ10Sitioo (Mr. Clark) expressed the bope that provinces V.'OUid be geDCtOUi in their int«pretation of that section, I ~ope so too. But be forgot to add tb.i t if provioces arc: not 8UICfOII$ in their intcrpretatioa, thal is not the end or il, ; inQC rc(ercnD:l wiiJ be made to the couns for their i.Jitcrprcuuion. lll)d t hose c:o1.1rl,l lll'ill be: bound by Set:til.m~ 16 to 20 or lhe Ctmrte:r. lt tt prcc:ii'Ciy in See:tiOR$ 16 10 l (l tbnt for the fiJSl t.lme l.n Our history, tl1e <)flid:ll l):loHull ur bcnl1 f'rtneh and E.ngllsb d entrenched. Tiu::Tef<lre. when F'retleh min<lc'ities in aJI.gJopho,,t pro:~~ inct:S ask for French educ.stion, tll either grade scbool or high school kvel. they <:M c.xpect to ba,·e tbe same rights, in 1be final noolysis.. as tbe English majority of tllosc .same provinocs.

Indeed, if* F'rt-nch ~nmunity w:\nu :·• French s~hool , t he crit«ia used. u rar as numbtr.i are OOI\Ct .rno:d . .,..IJI be the same as 111'0\lld be applied for 31l f:ngli:sh comntonity asking for an &lglisb &ehool. That i:s normal. h is cleat and understand­able. Tbat is prtciscl)' how lbe. ooutt will intetpr<:t this pr~·j .

sion. No di!Scrimi.nation will be Oltld~ \l<.twcen 11 rurfll <1nd ..., urban region, bl:cill.l.Se the critcrin q.pplied IQ q; mrul commu• nity (01' l!ngli!Sh l!Ch()o.)b ure tbt: ~:1me :u t h~ lll)plied tu :'In urb.1n tOIOtl'lunhy. and I be ~OlC !<)(ll rQf French OC)mQtuni.tiQ, Therdort:, Mr. Sp~::tl:o:1 , t :ke t1<1 problem with the "when:­nu.nbcJS: "''art:lllt" pr~wisioo . Of oouNt. I would lll'l\'t· preferred that the phtase be deleted. bttt it was not possible a.od there it is. French g.roups outside Quebc<: n1ight now find a.n inter9ft­ialion to that phrase in fii\'OUf of thoc establishment of Freocll $Cboob thJoughoul Eng.Ji$h Canada tO$Cr~""C French Cnnadiu.ns thJit ..,.tJuld like to u.l.-lcnd them. Mr. $pcuker, I WIJ.$ therefoce !WII'U!III'flat .\.hakcn by the (;u;t t b:U th~ provinc~ Q( QuebeC dropped u.'l fr::u.cophonefl ouaid.:· Quebi:e, and f<w once- that Engtisb-speak.ing ptO\'i.ncts had been generous.. lky did not also a,vec. to Section 23. or oootsc. this is disasttOU:I. The)' did 001 expect eithtf that Eng.lish..spcaking provinces -a·ooJd agn::e to Section 23. And they wcte taken by $1.1rprit;e "''ben tbc ~()Jlclusi(lo ..,.,.s reo.chotl Qfl Frcnc:;h roin<.lf'ity t ights ootside Quebec:.. Tl)ey h.,d nq rerly, nhhoush tlley hMI •.mdcrtllkcll in 1977 I() tr:mt equiv:~lent rights to English min<)ritie::~ in t heir <l"''n pro-;ince. They did~ ~St :.oeurdint!l)'.

In adllition, I wooJd be less tban ho~t ..,.ere I oot disap. poi.nted tlt;n Ont <~ rio dicJ not cbOO!'C to fol~· New 8runswic~·s u :•mplc in ~agree-ins to $ci:tW11$ l(i to ·20 ot the oonstitnti.c.m:~l ~:.h :trter. I hope they will dQ s4 in ttle nqr fut ure. I can :.;s~ure that in rtly cap3dty :ll a g<)vemment 1t1embct of lllis House., I .,_,ill kee-p on pressing lite gowrn1t'ltnt to aptto to that actual ~tion. Mt S«:tion 133 b..'Cttuse. it is not enouglt. but Sections 16 to 2Q of tht new Chantr of Ri!hts. Just t l~ same. I tnust

Tht CrJru·tituJiOO

poi.nt out, Mr. Spcu.ker. 1h:atln;st weekend tbcte 'll'iiS a m.:.-tin! of tbe oMoci;atlun Q( f renCh•Spt:•king membcJs o( the kgal pro(e,..,tc_m in Ont.~~ri<) fm the purpose of giving Frtnch4 spcak· ing bwycr.s in Ontario the opf)(li'1Unil)' to oonlpare notes ~ Lb2t t.h.ey will be rtad~ to prac:ti« i.n the Freneb co1.1rts that are being established in Ontario. As you are a111-are. we ba\'C a.bt3d)' amo!ndcd tbe Criminal Code to JM'O"'ide for Fr<ncb Language. 1:oun Jl'l'ootcdin.gs- in Onttvi~.>, a nd thiil i$ al~ody in pl-aQC. Also, tbc province of OntariQ h;•s dd'ign11t<:d :. number Qf areas. iocluding my Qwn, M :1rcaf! whae F'n::ncb l:lngu.tge courts arc to be C$lBbllshcd in unla th:d ooort proo.'ttdiug.~ can ~on. i_n FrcllCb, not only ic1 t riminal m.ttt<:n but also In civil mntten.

Some wo11ld h:~ve wished tb:lt &o.wernment had forced 5o(. lion\! 1(, to 20 on the provil.ct· \If Ontario. Ha--ever. I read )'tSterday in tbt tle-wsj»pct U D,.oft an od itor~ltltat I wou-ld like 1<1 s batt with this Hou~. becu.t&S(: I agree with it <'nd I al~

(eel il is w:ry inf01tnative, and I quo,e; l!<lt Nn tile ft>l<m~l JO<'mlmen• bt N111~ Gx ••.11 ~~ • ill foml>f)(l' S~h!

lt ttl i!FO'OI>Cd IIIOI'f- ck~ i11t0 Qo>hl~ l'nwi"dol ~ino! ... kaldy lloe Que~ p~,.nto;M ;, i1o.li111111~1 llox:ooo•• t-~~1 AA(Cf"'t d$ jnfUod <cflti6U tv(!llr- If~ )"'.. n :tit') :ore nlmd.J lot ltfWI~ ~~~j)ll. M '(('(lllj.I'II'OH b«­l hc t•..wi...:a "''"U lhtoo bC'Iooo~W'iltk.

T111-o options arc~ to the F'edcl:lti<ln o( P'rcnch·speaking Cn~~;~dinn$ out.rlde QudJeC. h1 eJ(ea. tht editorial at taoJ:td the. FedWHioil, wbicb is figbtittg for the adoption of Sect~ I JJ in Otltulo.

The F'fl-fQ ~ ldt .;~ ••o f'(MIIIb!Utlts. !?iu•. 11 Nuld do ._,. , ,,_ zo eoo .. tnoe ~r~~e Tt lo<k'" 10 $(t !l:t J ~''! lin~ui,.ie~· ;o"'J in l-*1 .14fi-O>CA: o.or lb: pNO-w.:n. 10 ~ftit,;uall)' ioi,..,OX<: in W.,-~,.,;,.$leo lm o.omnibd.ronllil~liilc:o! lnO!iOII "''1111 !I!(' !(!!(! IO.Ifp.Y\ of I~ f .. !cr:o! l .ikrnh ilml I t'W'tfl ~bl lh ! lflct '""~Id •11 ~,~ I;;> il 11 ._.,Id be: !="'lhiN! Mllo:fdol 10 d~rd pfOWin:obl jllti,cli.+fq,, far 1t.: u~c«' c~~~ co-s• N!lnll;u.t.b$1n. StOX!Oid. 1.'1(' FFHQQOQ!ol ~· t cad_y rw '""' Joe(o)fod p~w., ot d.e <X~t~Jilllllion.d rd o,.. <olive~ r..,.i'li.CQI juliodi.:liofiJ wJ I)Oiilk,ll inJIICUI{(Iftl' " iU ~ ,.,..ofot:o!!y di .. u~.

Mr. Spcak<:r, I nlust s.1y at once th.1 t I atn.-e witJ• !he oditOfial. Secondly, I cbil'1k il gh·e$ :1 pr.:lpcr dir..octioo to the FFHQ -a·hicb, 111·hh nil other F're<lc-1•-spcakins ins1itulions in \'Miou:s lin81illh ·~pc:•king ptbl'inces, should cha nge its policy and inlitc:•d (){ uroirtg In on the amend mwt.s mode 1~.> the C:.nadi2t1 oon~titutfo.n. they Mlould try eo il'1form lbc variou..s ptUvinci.aJ $'0\'Ctllnlcnt.s. lo )lfepare ''arious French minQrity gtOllpi fot their applicalioa 10 RQ'I'crn.mcnt$, :·md $it(lol aulltofities.. to dra""' up lik$ W :•~flilit public.: authl>rities unfamiliar witb minorit)' L1ngu:•jl,c edue:1tkln. The-y ~hould beg.in 10 educak public :•uth()rilie.t in Englisb·spcaking pro\'· incC$ with :1 view to emablint. tllcnl to adjust when the}' $how lil.>me rducl.:mcc:. 'rhc)' sbou.ld a IIlO indicate to Frcnc:;b-sped:in.e min(wities bow to mkt advantaee of Section 24, whic:h allo-'S tllern w go to court to hll\'C LJ)cir rights con(irmed.

As I ha\'C said before. J III'OUld h;ive liked to :see t he •·hole package in force in Eog.lilh·spca.king pttl\'inc:a. H()Wh't'r it t~ impossible! Baok home, OOv.·c:vcr. w;: ;1ay tblH a btrd h1 tht· band is worth two in the bu~h. We kn<>'<'• lhattbe bifd we ha\·e in hAnd is e. big ooe. We :slro k:llo.,.•l.h:u we. must protca it a nd

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r•~ C(MJtituthM

ulioO it to 11)' 10 catch tbe 01\e ;., tbe: bllah. That turd 1n t.he bu!ilb we ,..Ill ttrtainl)' catdl. because we a~ lftCkled ve-t)' dettnniDed to do fo, Wbnl is great about tbc:. ooMtltutlonal pnck:a&c-·l'l tbut r.,, IlK (i~c time the rigbt to edu~tion (or rrnnOOflboncs is <:IArly ipclh:d 0411 alld eMbrincd. fl never 1\nd been before. 1'hcrw used ,., be ~~Cpq;r"te $Cbool Jylolc:mt: now, F'rcnch·!ipca.k· lnJ C.t~adJtlnt outside Qs.cbcc 1ntd €nafi~h·•pcukina C.ne.lli­ti'IJ. within Que-be<: are: dearl)l idc:ntlfltd tu lln&\l iJtic mhi•Qri• dei:, ~h. Spcahr. this will a.~ aJI C•Mdi:uu., wluttber Frtoc:h or Eftt:li:stl ~ to chooec: fttdy tlltc pb« they liltt _. •ncl .. , ..... to call home.

Mr. Spptcr, we cr.rc ~ t~ ckbt of J"llit* c:spc. cuny 14 the Jtf&bt Hon. Prime Mi•Bkf •'bo. u I illd!fttcd eart~er. his ftOl anly ebbonlc!d. fra~ ror the fut•re q( C.n•cb: oa tbe b:uois o( iu pas:1 hJUory. bl;!t woeeedcd it~ t«UrlnJ the coiUle:ns:us of aU Ca~adjlLRII on hit action. Mr. Spuker, I i UU-CSt that no Ca.nadiall ~~oodl over bCI too yatefad tor I hill, I, ror oo~. thank yoo fc•r !JIIntlns me 11 few .d.,hionlll llOConcb. Mr. Speaker, and ( say to you lhlll tbe times a:U Clln<~~di:~~ns are lh•ing now are n~t ra"oorabl~ actd J'lrOlnbing.

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(H~tgflllt) Mr. t', Okrle (Pri-.:e C~·Pt.c:t Rhtt)t 1\h, Spc:a\:et, I

.m al•d 10 have a few d'loOtltc:dU to plrtleif1Uic ln t.llk p.11t of lk CJOMtiUatioal dtbatl! whkb eoatttftl 1hc rftlllf •rtd privi­kto ol our ut~ people:$ d: tlleir ow• co.cKry. The~ •< <'<~"1 • this disc:.sAoll abolt tile O.lit•lbt.. tk tnOrt nidMt il btcoitld tlu.l we WUt ri&bt •'bat • 'C aid we sbotd4 f»INIIC the- <Aitslitt:tioo, tllat we shcNkl J.llOCI Oft &11 atntad· i111 formula a.nd t.heo briftg tht COIUl.IMion home to broa&:~~ I be ddcusdon 11boot other maucrs. 'J'hc.e locluck the Cbaner (I( Ri&hls and Frecdonu, m.aHen whkh profoundly affect il')dh·lduals, cnautrs .,.bleb pl'(l(ou~dly affott the r~:buloftlhip b:lwt:.:n tlte iOOh·idu.:cl ~nd tl'te ~lu te a~l ma11e11 wbicb ullccl i~llvlduJ• I ltOup~ in our society, a:ueh 1U l>llt ••ath~ pt:'()fll~.

Our nuti~~ people do ha~~:> a vel'y .Sji<C:lill po.tftil>n in <Kir t.:II.'WI)' In C.anadu, They are ubori,JinnJ people. The)' have been i_n thk c-ountry .t.inoe time intmemorl:tL Not only tlut, thty b:avc madC! n \'alua.ble :and irnP'J't~ant cuntribvtiQn lO t.hi$ eounuy. Our aboriainal peopk hive played all impcwcut pan in o.r arty history ud i4 lilt. cvoli11UOO ol wlut we ..,.,_ '*"'dtt a lf'C.II ud importut ruttan 1t1 a OMWII•IIil1 of NtJOM i• dte world. h is said that W ic 110t bed f« tht lndlaM.llle J'lfOrintoe of Ootatio may NI..,_,, bca •• ~)I prot'._ lt it u .id thllt if it Weft- 1'1011 che f~ll in the Arccjc. •nd their u•dJtional ri:ghti aod~unu:iu.. •re woukt haw: h:td ao sutcir.cuion 10 proclaim SO\'trci.g:n.lf tn the Atctlc..

Ccrt.all'ly ~11 of 1,15 know dat ba4 il nol bec:n for the Mcli.J; •nd l,.oui4 Rid in Manitoba. that JIO-I'l ol lhe oountry m:sy no:.t be u lt 1J today.

In 197J tt.i,1 PQrtY a"bje,'Cd in ebb Hou~ the tccocnilion of the conotpl of abotiginal tight! for th\1 nrll thnc.. a~r()t.:. tb:u oM! tcrtuinly sirteo then the <.-out13 h11vc tned to c-ome to lrip; with the ckfinition of "-aboriginal righU"', If one cakes a look at

the prod:lllt'lttlocl oll16J, abw,giul rights hli•'C iiCimethJna to cSo .... ith pr4)Jlc:rty, No 011c doubt.s llut. 6ut are ;~bofiJilw l riaht• onJy to do wilb propcny' What about ealtutal rights? What about ~ll!loo~ tlt~.htJ? $Qnu: coom ~)'that aborigim1l r lgtttll onJy a.~nttm JWOII(.ny t llhu, 0••1 if aborir,inul rithlf hii\'C something to do whll rellj.ious and cuhuttl rights . .,.,,)'did '*'C oUow the mijt lon:uica to Ulkc (lur natift ~s to the ri~r CA> bapt.iu tbem in !be nu miC ol the fatber. tbc Son tnd the Holy Gbolt?

Tlaat ttrUi•IJ w-u flOl a sollatioe to their ptObkm. The) Nvc- thdr owa rdijjoft 11'1d they line tllrir ~~~ arlt1rc. Ta.cir all•R is OoM tMt CIIMOC ~ •ill die wutet• civilinhoft btauw k b ~•a.. q.ptc di.IYUhlt. l'l.dr alt.K is OM: wt.icb IDO''Ct in 1Nrmon7 Wttt. ru1•re ..-ben:u the q;lt•re allld btiis ol wcaun dri1ltadon h a celture that has takca 1111011 illltlr to mall&lf' natllrc to itl beat adn~ttate. 111acforc. the native cvlture and the watem Cllllute eannoc co-u:i&l.

If ..-'e •-ere lo Ji¥~ our n.atlve people some cultu-n&l intcJrity, "''e would ba\'C 10 back tbat up with oonstitutiooal rlght11, £,·ctything d»e nltC/111..111Jiilnili1Ci.on und inlt:,B.futioo. We wl)11ld be lyinJlo our n11 tlvc people if·~ told them tbal wc were 11<14 a.iliog them to winlUACe and to integr:ue. by oot j)fO(~tl l!l t hdr ~ultufJI.I rithCf, I ""'~ al~dy :s:tid Lheir ~ulturc c::tnnoc ~e;cist witb tbut or tbc Wdtetlll c:u:lture i:ll oor Comtitu:tioo. lt b for Wt ttlUOCI that n:Ui\'ts In Oltr COI;utlty Dttd lptl.'!i:t.l prouctioa

• tl,. Nathoc:t a_n: """ the •tr '"*' that JICIII!!ds spa:iaJ PfOICIIC11011.

1• ~ there are 1lle ~I c:in:uutt.oocs of lk Fmtte'b eu.Jture atld llecutJ. Tht h .-hy tcwnec:l us haYe...,... a.&rftd t)ut there needt to be tpocial proiCCiiQO.and ICCOIJ'Itlonln I he Com-titution or the te~lhy that there are six millioJI Fre.ACb• ipcakina person, in North Amcricu and Z(l() mfllicm 6rr&li~ob· ~pcaJdn1 penom, Thl- l.s 11 SJ!C'(liul problem wbic;b rt:lluirq sf)C(ial considcralioo. Thot I ~ why I am ssyin.g native pcopk de$t:r¥e nnll tllln t h~vc ~pt.-.:i11l prot«Ck>n in tlw: C(ln~titvtHMI.

What lcl'tollld t hat pr61«1ihn be.? Is it g<lo)d cJI(mgl• j•ut IO say that we will rocoanlr.e and affirm «he QOIIQC"i)C or aboriJinul rilbl:l whet! we Uw t10l taken the time to gi~ a dc:finitb• to that «.Ml~pl1 Wtllll • the NJ'h ....,...? We tune an a.el!(lnl to patria.te the Cooltiunbl alld ae at~~endinl fortt1111la. Why can we ..,. sit dowe •ad define aboriaiuJ ,.,.Ius. which -~ ttC!lf• •itoc do cdst. bef«t • • Ulb llw fiul step? 11IIC ~hnn.kr ol J.stitt (Mr. O.r&.b) 11111 1hc Prime Miaisttt (Mr. Tnteku) td.l Id lhcn: • 00 IICICd f« dd.t bea.UJte tlw)• art: dcqlly oomm1uc:d lo ~~ dow-11 wit .. tbe aborigi~l peopks and laft. abotlt tbrir ri&bta a~ 11'1« a ddi:n.ition 011 those ripu ti .oon :u tbc Cont.titwtlon 1t patriated. If I were the Prime MintUC':r I ... 'Oil Id have fiO prQblcm •1roeina with th;n. b1.1t I *m noot I he Prime M.ini:seer; IIOf wui I I hoe Prime Minister or an a&tnl of Her Majdty the Q\ICCI'I wl.en tl1e treat.k'll whid• wcrt: nC\•cr kc-p4 ,.·ere siu.ncd.

If we look bad: $0. 100 or 200 )'t:ltll wlten the treaties lt.'4:rt $isoed. 111 lcallt we cutbd the n~d¥e peuple to sit do,.,·n ~and discuss what wa• beil'll tf.s.ned. Some of these treaties •·e~

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pcaoc trea:ties because tbc nali \>cs. .,.·ere at war with the settlers who wett tlkYi'ins on th thtir land and ~rnan!f:mtnts h:td to be made to J:eep tbc peace. Nut onty daat, the J<Wtrnmcn• $AMI that whatc<~·-er was ag.retd to. v.·btthet it be a box of U.cJts. a Hud$(ltl Bay bbnket m a medical che::~t, would be written down and siei\Cd.

Tbat is MC .so with tbls Constitution. Tbt. ConstitutiOI'I wiU be brought !)lack, the govcmment will ~~ down with. the n11ti~ peoples tod talk abool tbc ruture or their culture andi lan· Su.3tt~ but tbtre will no longtr be any OOII!itnt ot t igna.ture required. The ni11e Pn:mier.s and tbc Prime Minislcl!' wiJI decide and say: ''We art your guardial\$ fot~r: we d.o DOt need )'(lur si&n.iturc any l(lns;a ... Th11t ill why I am sayins tl:mt this Coostittuion cartROI work without a oonscnt clause. bccttuse natives have sp«i:al probkrtlll. Tbe$t pi'Obkms C!ll"'l)l)l

be compt~rccl wilh women's ri£111::~ or <Xfler politii:QI righls. Tbere mU$t be 3 consent clause as tbtre was at the tiltlc we were negoti:uin& Lhe trlmties.

Many membeu have di&eusscd this crucial "'1Kd' .. e~iuina.".

"-'bi<:h. as tbey $ay, is totally mca.tingless:. If )'0\J listen to the advice of tbc Minister ()( Justke and the Crown CQuNCI~. This "''Ottl "uisting'', w}licll is no"'' the subjeC* of this amendmcn~.

"''as inserted by the Mirtisttr or Justice. Tbe mini!ltt:r told u~ )'d'tt rday that ·~- d<t n<)t h:m;: t(> •vrry ;.bout :1 thinS bocau.'le it i:; totally meaningless. 1r I know anything aboot law, Mr. Speatcr. it ~that kgisl:uures are 001 supposed to put 111esn· insld$ bngu;l~ into l~w. Lutil:' tclb me th:H if the word b meaninaJC$$.. dbCn il sbould be takctl out.

I say tbfl t h ill d.i~honett (or tbt Minister()( Justice to ;it:U'Id in the Uw~ e.nd n.y that the 'IIIWd "«i~>tint" is meanjn_elc:s$, because if it were it would be ltis: duty to ukc-that wotd out. h k Mt folr us ttl give tlw Supreme CcKitl l:1nguage in {Kit

fundamental Jaw tbat is rocaoin:Pc~. Y~ know as well tu I dol, Mr. Spc.\ker. that the ""'otds "c.,;isting ritht!" are not -at aU me:1ningleSS.

Tbe premjers ha,·e d«:idcd amoo~ themsel\•es tha~ the rta tlvt people. art -tetthtg everythlng lh whkh d•ey are. ctlt.itled ""'"' J~nd oothing el". The .$141111::1 quo is wh11t the n;~ til't

poopk:s "''ill be dcalin~o witb. The premiers. say: " lr tbe .stat\ls (jUO Is ptOI>trty rig.bts.. we v.'IJI fi nd ti.Cn\ SOn)( proopctt}' somewhere to h11nt :snd fish umil we n«4 1h1u property for drilling aDd devdoping resources. Tben v.·e ..... m find some­whttt· to pl.tSh th.cm, fartho!r away, IIOtncwhen: where the rJill and enribo\1 u.re," If -e.tisting ri.ahts'' meatls cultu.n~~l and language tights or teJigioos rights. they ctrtainl)' do not exjs-t right new.'.$() there is lin k hQ~lC fOf those right;; to c.(Ut in tht futu~. • •

I (eel \'t f)' deeply and .crn011Millly about t hi11 issue-. I fi!W. it very difficult to rct:oncik wholt -.·e arc d()ll\i hen: with m)' consQcnce. I cannot b<:liC\'e tbat this natioM.l disgrace should be aUO'Il>'td to ulst rot another hundred ~ars. I can1M» believe U1at we $hould c.:ontinue to nu.ke ..,u r101Ch<ct~ tlle taJ!e" for condemnation by international tribunals to which our native 1)(1()9ld have round access. Tilde tribunals bavt. agreed ,..ith w,r nati,·c peoples that they are being HCllltcd 11.$ .sccoftd.cla" cit.i.tens and that 'll,·e bave Cl(xumltod an act or cultural and

T~ CorfSiitMtion reliaiws ge11ocide. I c;~nnoc believe th11t thi$ nadlm, a:~ proud and ricb as it is. <:an afford to le' that lc:ind of di$,STiiC.'C c:ontinue In tlle (utun::.

I supesA thllt we mu:;t t~):e t tcps today to oorrc:ct thi ~ hnOOiance. I question the integrity or those who have 8$k«< to ha\'C the word "e~tistint" added to the re:S<Ifutioo. I quc~ti<ln the integrity orthos<: who will not Jive the n:lth~ peQple :at thi:; (;ruclal time i11 our history the ritht to consent to matters wtti~h afrccc no oDC d$C but t hen:t~l rcs., to coc•.'~tnt to cbiln&cs In our ruodamental law which will have no eftect oo anyone but tbem. Whilt this means lt that ,.-e att oo more $incett- in tomin8 tO 8rips .... •lth tbe \'try Sptclal rights or 001 aboriginal people in this oountry th:!tl we v.•t te when ""'e sign<:d tht initial treaties.

I do not ha"C an:r failh in tbc C(lnferences that arc 1<1 bt condvetcd £or the purp!K o( puuins :t ddlnltion M the-ttt1n "abot'isinnl rightt''. We Ita~ rcetnt cx.atnpks or why there $hOUld be dolubt and miS1niSt. We onl)' have to look at the Jamtt Bay a&rcc-ment (or an example. 1t is not so ~ng ago that .. -e. sat be:te a11d talked about tbat Tbue "''e('c j11st ~ rew olus in tbt House who sounded • •arnifl.i .signill!i at that time and "''C w«e rjpt. Tbe treaty .,..u signed nnd tht!n rort<JUen about Tbcx meajop will coruinuc. Mr. S~tcr. ~ttd the; native peoples will be :1ble to JXlrtidpate-. btu the de:ci~lons about their li~ their futurt aDd thcir culture and religion will be made by people. wbo have vesy little understanding, i£ any, of tbe. rul probJt tns or oor two cultures. Our two cultures can only oo-cx.ist if ODC develops res:por;t for tbe other. The tights ol tbese cultures muS-t be entrcnch<ed in the b.'l~ic la.,.· ()( l he oounlr)'.

Jf -.·e canMt hll~- atl)' faith in what the premiers -a1e JOing to do afitr tl'le Co'"ti tution is patttated, cenainly tbe courl$ have b«n gh'tn a clear direction rcgo.rding what they are to do. Tbty are to legislate the .s.tal\1::1 qllQ since the .,..~

.. exiuing rights" are in tbe QlnS1itudon. f5•i:~ting right$ h:1ve not hdpc<l our native people$ ~chieve self·dt:term.in:ttion in the fu ture.

If we a.re I'IOt prepattd to accep1 tbc stattls qvo, I $l.l)' let U:S

defeat thi.s amendment. I fi od m)'ltlr in n very di(l'icult position boc'ause "''C have betQ told d1011 unle:s$ tllis ward $lays iB the rC$01ution, tbe accord could be fr:scturtd. Well. I "'ill oot de-vcSop any pride in Qur CtMilltitution ir 1ny neigltbouts ba,ve to ljve in abject p<werty 3Dd dCflfivation. as the native people::~ wbQm I represent i:n Parliament do and ILS t.he)· ha,•e MM for the put .300 years since the white man took ovct tbcir land.

I Cllnoot be pro\ld of my country when that kind or situatioo c~ists. I will find it difficult to const:nt to something like this And 1 .,..-quid &OM> f21r as tol say that I do not car~ ir tbis accord is broken Of n04. I um 93h;amed ar wh:lll we ha~ dolle to bur ruui~~ peos>lts in the past and I will fight ro(' tbcro in tbe rutllre. a5 1 am now.

(1'rtu,s/ol l(), I 1\tr. Pftrrt fmMxc-r ( l"utia•n~tarJ Secntary le 1\ti•i!~l'

of Sttrt (M•IIk•ll•rali:~a}): Mr. Sptuk~r . over • )·eM 1110 I told d1c 1ninlstcr tt~pon~lbk for tbe: con!ldhuiofllll 1\':rorm thut 1 intended 10 take pm in th.is hlstortc de~te. Fln,Uy, !ilttr art in«edtbly lonJ debate in tbi.:s Hoo!IC and alter 0\'Ct S00 hou.rs or ptocccdlll.l$ aM pu-biK bcarinp at tlle joillt committee, I fiNII)' ha~ tile hoAOUt to •ba~ nu ..WO.. of our country u d l)( OUf (JIM\llluticJaal dwtcr • idt the C.nadbn ~

M r Spaker, d• rirt& tJM: put yqr, I may htYC prcpucd u many-. t.t.r« ipCWba to be dctiwm:d m t..O Home. I tw:ticwe that .r tky had ~ driiYC!Rd •• tk time tky • «c writ:CCR they would •11rdy haw K!emC'Id qsitC' ~111.

111e e-.·cniJ bein.& ,.·hat tl~e)· arc:, th~ ~bc11rc no lon.l.(:r relevant and I had to " 'rite a new one in t.he pw (.:w dll)'$. Tl'lc polirklil ronditioos bave so dra.s-deally be~• uhc:A!CI, Mr. Spcokc:r, d!at yoo will under~ta.OO why my to•t•me-nts an: purtiC\IIII rf.y dirc~ed to Quebctt.t!. In nty pt'CVIOU.I Jpt«hei, ! IW!d l'!e~r q·ueJ1iorted tbc ncce55ity under tbc pi'Qk:tl t political citcu•nlitun"' or u ChMtc-r d Riabu and Frecdom.s. Mor«w« 1 hlld c,~amined a t k nzth the Eumpc,.., Con..,cntion ror the: ~c.on 61 Humu Rig.htl and Fundioli'Mnlll Ff'ftdomii ,iJII(d. i• Rome on N.;n·i:«~bn 4. l9SO. AACI I( yO\I wdl a l._. '* oec d4crruio., Mr. Sptda. I wouWAythat 011r chartft .. akato.,ta tlriC'rc is .., siiCb pt~ at prc:tiC:at. •ill ia the fut•rc tnpirc 1101 only a COIIIIllli:Miol ol H•• rtpu but &boo 1 tpcdal 01111n Mdl as the Earopcu Cowt ol Hu..,a R.i&hts to ~•re: ttle ~r~t or ou.r Cb&.ncr o( R.lcbts aad F'rtcdomL H~r. Mr. CN.lrmu, thc:I'CI it 110 dou.bt that u fit lt the ()()nlentS o( the cb1111cr .IIIC COfiCC.mccl w·Jth lbc. recotnillon or l'lati\'t · rigbti und l>ta.UJ!I l"qUIIJty. 11 ill a JrCIIlly­hl'lfM'O\'td paper. 1t ~~ oow a m~h •nor.:~ Yltlu.ab'e resolutian thlll'l it .,.,.liS lllllt wcc:k and it cao be ra\'OOfllbl)' comp:ul!d with pny ~hnrtcr, capcd aUy tbe EuropeaJ\ Con'I'Cntlon.

·n~e r•'IOilt lmporunt 1"11ct thi:J day, on NO¥cnlbct 15, Mr. Spc!lbr, b th:u WC' art on the vtrae or YOdfl.& In th~ PlariJ., ,. n1e111 ol CaMda oo a. oonstitutiOCial tc:SOtutlolrl ~trl:ating our Co.ttitutloo 10 wbicb has b«a added an amtWtdi&I!IJ Corn:uda t~nd a CIYnn (I( Ric•u and Ftudoms. I •.c acllnh tiU.t i• .p.w oltk r~ dui I am ocrt.till tbat Cauda will bC' a aratn COII•try OlfiCe tK R$01Utto. is PI:IIC!d and Gilt CCJMC.itu­tt• • pilriatcd. 1 mvsa $a)' tha.t u a fcckn.l mtmbu tqJre­imlull a Quebtoc com.tiurcnty, l~m diiOippohuod aiMS torry lhat Qutboc. Ofl atcounot ollts Kparatl,t p-ffnme"t, i$ not • p,tf't)' to thb attr«mttiL Not Mly as 1 Member ol f~rliamC'nl bill 111!10 a" 1 Qucbecer I had to dooide "''hat kind or Canac!a I " 'llnted (Qr tod~)' aDd C!ipccially whil;b one I 'o'l'tlltod for my chlldn:n. 1\!MI fll)' choioe is clear. I cb\IOIIC our n1otion, our I!(II'IS"thutlunlll ~lution which is, in my ~ie~w, a trU~ CIH'!!Idiun ..,i,ion that has nothing to do, or cour.K, wilh that or Rcne UvtjQIIC and bJ11 k pur3tiSt g<Wtrn•tlent.

1 want a Canada whkh will be rar g:reatet" ror ba'fina • Constitution w·hich f'OOOIJ'h:Cf and cxemptifte5 <~UT n.llti(lnll l identity, W IM:n I un cndcd t he Sainr•Jcan $eltliMr)· in Quc.b«, Mr. Speakt:t. t.heyutOed 10 tt11cl1 Oreck phil()$0phy. ar•d dpe­ciatly Arlstotl", and I remember t ll:ll in ()ne or his tk'li>k$, Aristotle h;td thlf tu ~y about ()()(IS"ti tution.i, ,.,hlch is quit~ rtlevaJ\t to what .,..c lt~!fCI bdort us today. aDd I qu\Xc:

A I'* -lllllolll. _.. Ufl''" tile ldrnlity o( 11 ~11oot. rolod ~l!Q p- lllc uublallt~~tt~und mbill~ of • 1_, •• OHctb t001:11.

But in C>\ptali:ltf iu Yidon. (ot the: future.. Mr~ Speaker. a Jood OCIIIQtit•tioll ror Clneda mut r~ the SIKCICMC$ a!MI faitllrcs. of OIU ru,. llbcOfJ, t.hit if. a Co.tit.vtioll c:omm~ucd to d»c--idaJJ ol t.okta--., t1~y ud •"tPki!ICC. a ....._ t"-'t is ~!Tectcd as m~ b)' the deporUtioa ol the AadJa.o pcopk u by the: Fmdl .dlOOI b;~ ie Manitoba.. ti m:..cll by Lo.rt. ftid •s ubd601t u by the: tn¥i>h~m.en.t ()( tbt CaAadiu Anned Forces i.ft pcaock.«pi.l\l dutir&, a& m-..cb b)· t be dctealion ol Canadians or J11.pancJe dc:IOCrtlt during World War 11 u by CaB&.da"! intcrnutiontl lmn.r:c a.s a pcace.-10\'ln.g OOOJ\try, Mr. Speaker. " 'C need ll CoMtitution which r<:llecl:; r111WI.;unentnl valt,tes: and reilenJte the lruly Cnn.adi.tn vk•lexf!res,t<l by Sir Wilfri4 Yurioc:r •het! he wrutc. und I qi.M.lCc::

I ..... 01• ""'1 .,.hfll lo(t to Jd..-illl -cilioni.Jn, h.•nn•Jny ""'' ""'ltr<o tbnolinl""""''lhot'f:OfW..,.IItm_..t..,, -•t·

I lhinl. ~l •c arc lnd«d 'ltt)· ltld:y tba:l ou.r Ptinw Miainer il a wort.-.y llK'CCIIOf to Lnricf iQ word and clcod. fk bad to be a wty CCMinl~ .... ari:Jitiola: rna o.. Mr. Speatu.to auc:~~n,p(, aRct S.t yan ol repeated: failures. MKll • Put c::omtitatJoul ~cp for-ard. lt wocld bi'W'C' bom usy for IUm to aba!M.Ion Of CIQJifiOIIIC tk Cl)fl)titstioul rc:Corm.. anod only a teackr " 'bo really u~N.U111k Canada. our OOIIntry. ill diffcrcn«:s and n«dt, C'OIIltd also u.ndcrtta.nd lllat the time: to act 11nd t~)CA'C rorward la:.d to•ne if Me btllt!"''td inlllc: fllt\He or Ca~~oada. finally. Mr. S~t«. v.oe wiU ha''C a oonstitution tbol '>''C can call our own.

Only a few d~)'il ~Jcror.:. the drarn:11ic brenkthrollg ll ol' NCA•embtr 4, ;a book ~~~red in Canada -.·hicb summari.tcl n\y '-'illtotl of our ~tu.ry. 1u lndic3ttd by the ve-ry t iUc or thi!l book. "'Fracilc Frccdoou··. by Justi« Tbomu Ocraer. who h' w~IJ blow-a in Ou~d~ for hk tokran« a.ad rar-<WafltcdACM. our fv.!Ub~l fr«donu Mvc Iona ~ n-ry rr,Wk ROiohtKS for mi.IIIOrit.y .~ diswdml&J'OUpl •• Carwb., and .Jt~ll tha aloM a~~~ld • an••n tk C!lllicoochi•at ol a dal.ttu ol .tt.. RI)' posit1011 diffm ft01n tMI of Mr. l.i:w:squC' .,. a~~~J~Ila' pclil'lt. ud Ll • the otranc: iillllpORUCC oJ ha.;q riJh" •lld (rcorJom, a.rantC!Cito atl C.Md:iam.. Tlut is .. t.y I •Ar~ly 511pport this: CA«,.,. from Jusdcc Bc:t&cr"5 book. aod I quote IE,gN.sh)

If_.-,. C.n•d•1111 ,. .u! Ut t'fiJI.IY (~ 11f """"'~~ <l'"fll'h,flf ·~· o( modui" 1111d _.ll'lhly, "'ao«'HU)' in.:lcknl* of dLiZIIIU. and 1llc f~mtl "-ok d;)a; '"ll illo:ho'l~ ,._ ..... f"O•hlll• flit ltt< $dt.el'tl dU.., ol (lllldJ&Ill!l. l t tcolOII" llWVI(Jkllll C1111111\1, (19folrom$ e«nmo11 11> o:•tl) m it:o:n .uo$ cnr.,..c.­Ablt «f''OIIJ in Cl'tfJ prOoifiCt. !hC"ft ,..t •. lt" 11!e ro:iM of <111< <!;l!lllinma ~~·1 'A'hl.t ;, '"' QC"mo.lf! bqttl- ooh u aN 111$ ''"" """" ' " '"- l hoot ~·t 1" ~lw·1

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Unfonunatc(y, Mr. Speaker, the Kparu.tb.l J<Wcmmcol in OIKbcc: claim• tb~tt no common values •~ Jlt'Onl cnoua.h to j\l~llr)' QU4:b«":4 prcscnc.:e withio (l(lfl(ederacioo. and thlll ovu the abort term. all far all il D oonccrned, the on I)' thins of nh~ rnli.lll bo lilt CIOOIIOfnle aswclati<lfl. Mr. Sf!Qibr, ""hh that ki"d or princii)IC or policy. it .,..,ouJd inct.etd ~~~'0 bcrc11 U.n\II.Zing rot Mr. Rcn~ ~'UQUC to sign tbt eons-tJtutloi\SII acretn-.cnt whh the C.nlldian government, teptdles.o ol wbtl ofTen • -ere made.. The u~MJ~imous agtcemeot of the tM Jlf'O''ifiCQ and the «ntnll ~mcrn. tllc fO"U'Mlt.lll of Calladl. OG l ~of CIOIII._ wo•ha tlut woukl ~ ti th-e way f011o.S.tioA o1 fcdcnlifm. .. w be iR otwioos. COI'IU.clicd~N~ -'tllllw: 4aai~ tioe ol Mr. t.baque, tlte oe~e M Rfm to 10 ol\m •flld wllil;ll IN q~ rqxatcdly ;rt bis boot -()ptton ()rw.l.bu"". i11 wtlk• lW COitlpltU q..cbf:.e and Gnacb to twq KOI"JJ''M I• tlw :umc boulc. h tM:f'tfore Sttn•s ~lous tlut Mr. Uvftqli( a.t his Kpor.tiJt part)' a1e prison.ef"!l<lftbdr ow11 rhctork:.

Mr. Speaker. Ill there tho:-n such a t.hlnau u poet.ibkl and nocepc.abk tOMlitutiooal pact? r niUst conrc:lolJ that, to my mind, thc.re ~u.n.noc be an)' f« Mr. Uve~~q~o~c:, lie and bil &t:ptlfll tlll l(l'femment ha\'<: failed the CCSC or J'()Od rnith. I ba\'C no intention, Mr. Spe~ker. of repc~~lins the aacurc or our Prime Mlnbler ( M.r. T rlldetlu) wbo, i.n Qu.cbec., two woeQ •IJO. Uuew ll!m a line. & t the door wu: (lfleflod 0«1 NoYmba 4 Jut. Toctay. ewn u I a.m spe1lJft.!. it it •uU •• a.!Mt ,.ru ClOftliAUIC to be t\U after lbe f111al Wllle Ill talta 011 tbt

raohlbo.. Aod if it is. ~lr. ~.at thit U.. wk.~ ate to dcJI,e to lite "*- wbc-o ·~ are fed •P ao lk ,;&k wit• COIIM:ituliouJ tall. that is bca..se llrle pcopk otQudloc. U.O. • M tend ~ he~ to OtlaWil uct thoic • ho dectc:d Mr. ~uc l.n Quebec W<l,nt to keep il open, ""' the talb aM neaotWtiotn to rtCW.me. Sti 11, the Qoebccr" "''* lhOM; who tlear the bnuu of th" door tbat remarn~ t:k~~~<d In the ttpur.ukt camp, Mr. Sp.-ater.

Mt . L~'tique nu.dc three. objtcdo,;s eo tht Cnnadllln agrc ..... n'oelnt t iJ nc:d on last NO\'tmbcr 4. 1 sl~t~t~kf lih · tO d-.·ell bflcny on the one that .nrikes me ;as tbe most fundaenc:ntll l in terms of the vidon I be"t of Canada. Wbat obviooily nl(l$ in the faoe of I be r*iboplly o( tbe Parti Qu&6ooU are the ~lit)' c.ltu5CS Ill he,' wo.ld apply to Qu.ebo;, And )~t. tbcrc b 110 doubt tbc flC'OPk ot Qrudxc ,..jiJ benefit from tban Ma)"bc: mou n .... aay otltcr pnwi110t. bco!USIC unlortaaatcly, we h.tt'C wm ht r«<CIIIC )'C&fi ptoriocial ~Iura pa.d ~~.,. ruatkti-., mupowcr mobility. h is ako. otMoui llut ie dw woy dlor1 ttrm .n pt~i:~~ea • 0111d b#vt twt to pess so~ kaidatkllll • u• tiiC" ruult that worken wo..lld bavC" bttn pritoac:rs • ·ithin theit own pi'OV1.xe-. ll'lcir ooJy Q)ft$0lation bri"-& tb111 their fellow w·orkcl'llln thd r proYirKC" W<!C!Id have 3b11~ their lOt.

Wh11t arc we: prup<nlng. Mr. Speaker'.' We life prqpos.ing thlll nil C:w;~d lJ"m •vrt en;, \llnd tl>l)«.i nlly Qu.:~ "''<lfkc.-, whttiC\'tr they Cllnlll>t fi·nd tmpl(lyment In Q\lcboc:. coold moYe 10 artttiCI plSIUI'(:S;. In AlbtrUI <W chewher\\ in order to &c1

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some work. to earn a l~ln1.10 have thur c.hiWn:R cduc:ated lit Freocfl, and to rcnmt 10 Q.akc' tome iby it tht y ·want.Cd to. or 00t1rw, l hQtie "'orkcr~ ,..I'M> •LAY ln Qucbe:c, prtci~cl) beau~ or the llmt:ndmtn~ I)II'Op:Ked by tbt ptOIIill~t 1)( Ne ..... foundl3fld in o tenuine ~pl rit of fcdcnuion. >t"OUtd 'be prot«tctl here. :u ac>11g as tbc (.'lfO\Ii•-.c:e did not have full empl-oyment, itnd cbus tbe pro.,.in.ct ol Qucboc b now protectocJ. On iu; face, this makes :fiO muc.h &eMO and h i• &O evklc:nl we must 11.5\ why the PQ is again" it. Wd l, h lt ~lur their oppo!jition s.tcmJ rron1 lbc- fact tbal this f.landJ ror • un!led c~nada, an open Canllda wbile they WI.I'JI a~'" Quebec. a11 itobk'd Queb«. 'nut ~illd ol Cauda tltc ~rawu cuti!Ol ao:q'lL What .s at us l e­is t be lol ofaQ C.a.toehl-. •od.cl ... Q!Hbc:«•S. Tktt Jol mvu

be impon:d. 111 tho coat ol "'"""' iuo u ~~~~ • itll tilt Cuadiu £0ft'nllr~Cilll. And tiBI • .liOO'InhitiC the QudJ« ~~ is aoc • llliqto do.

'J'ru: relt:~nces to 1.14 Q\1~ Members of hrtililtnenl bctn1 ttaitors. bu.ms, canp•ert and tbi~es point eo <11 tflc;lr; o( ' ''"" meniS aod a reUancc on rhetUfi<. 11 is iJnonng publk c.>p~nioo. Mr. Spcaket, bt:anu;c the J)IJ()Vlnti•>n b (cd up with rumily quarrels, becaysc all thnt bickering and :•)!&m!JO.tiun An:! j!tJtna

on bct.,.·cen Qycbe.:cTII.

Ra~ let me conclu.J.: b)' q .. otlng Lauritr OIICt rn1>re, OOc:ulliC t h_i$ c:~~pl ai.u why l.CvefQ.,C cttll'lot si.gtl. and e;..prc:ssc:s our ilillc.n~. u Mend>ert ol l•a,Liamellt from Q11cbtc and I q..ott:

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,......,. .,. * &-~ . .. ,. ..._.., ~ • bt •--• adw "-­tl ~le Ucdio: •• --., ... """"' ........ ,.,..--_, ~ ... .._ ·­,_ ~tl4ootoffftM._

Tll~ .an all IIIGM:, IOIIlll- tlwlr ~ ... W\ol""' 11teir loon11~ • lrl11m 1 ...

fi:lri:Uoi"J tt~ . .. ,. , w ~"Alii ut r~··· • '"''' ~ "'*""' tu .... ...-. llf"'ll""'"" 10• A:$ fu 11' f ~- -.WIIIfll, Ill•• .oJI 101)' fiSI".ololllll)'lfiCII. I 4a A C'IIA..ti;;l/1.

Tt10e rifllo~> illa1 f.tbor-t"llloll)-6 of .,~~lfl onJtint lN' u ll<'>lt to 114. o1

ucrcd li) ,-,,"-lU the rlfhl l ol ·~ il'"n tfllf, Whit duim lot ,,.;••n (~11~1 pb.,. l111ht sun. 11n .,, sluttd ,...-,oe,, of t!bcny: Ill~• "'a« w.; h""' il; .. c ht l'f fl ~. iU!d ..,.\u1 ., clnll'l to1 VltrfOif•"'- '"' lire.,,;..,~ '"'11'~.,. 1.:. mtun ,

WelL Mr. Spcala!r, tluit b our roJe here. Such a role Mr U:vcoqoe and hJt p<crnmcnl would dt~~)' us. The)· ;11rc j"~J iDdeed bocause tbcyare IMII)•11Qlatod. 1'he)· arc Jocl:ed 1n. And f W&Ot tO CllfUtC lfl I~ COMllhta13 of l,..apr:~uk. and all QK:bccen that OftCIC thu mott.oo. i. paucd. it •ill oaty be a stanin& poiat beawc cowry ell). • dt a Cotitii:ulioe Wt •tll be: heR i• Cauda •litre M .VJ be <1mmdcd frwt,, we a,.,. @OI:q to strfwo totethcr to impnrre llle kJt of an C.udil-. ud till~ includc::f •11 ~,.

• <·~ (Enttislt)

Mr. Rokn C. Collf('8 (Cuml:ltrbn4.Colcltl!stcr): Mr S~ker, when I wa~~; n,~t ele<:ttd to the Hoosc of Con1mon~ In 1951, almost 11 quarter .,r 11 c:ctlh U)' agt>. rny la dc r, the Ritl•t Hoo. JobB G. Didcnbaker, dbplllyed tbe ~roe doecp &ensc <H

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oommitmcnt for fund.ill)Cf'll:tl rigbti :tOO rn:cd<>lns ol indiv;du· al Canadians t111 has bt.-en pr<ljtct~ by the: 1ue:se:nt Prime Minister {Mr. Tt11dw11t •'"'· Dcifc:nba.ke{s oommitmen1 to u Bill of Rights f(l( Cao:tdians came. from his cthnie b:J<:k.g.tound ll1'MI pt't$()1'1:'11 upcrit;!<:e-.,s 11 b wyer ::wd ~lidd~n. h w:d Mr. Dc:m:nb:•ker"::' lil(:long: amt»1ion to make Canadians who arc not of En&lish or Fre-n<:b exu:~ctioo wrnfon.ablc.~s Can:Jdians.

The Jl!fe:~nt Prime Mini:ster h<1s lndic.1tc:d l)y h_i$ •'ml$ ond actions tbc $time t)'P: of oommjtme!lt and ooocern for Caoitdi· ans of French origin. I b1'"'' what :'1 11peci:d d:ly it .,_.u for Mr. (>iefenbaker ~nd fqr Cilnl!.di<lnt: wlu::n I be UiiJ of Right-S was introduced in the House of Con•tfiOns oo July 1. 1960. and ag:1 i11 'l'·he:n it wa:s prod11imtd oo ;\ugust JO, 1960, buc the Bill of Righls llCIICT reali7.cd its full potellli:'ll as tbc protettWe SHIIUIC it was lllCSiii iO bi.'. muth to the d!:tgrin ~nd fr.u tr:l.lio.!l iJf Mr. D~fenb:•k.c:r

Fi/'$-1, it -.·as -a fode~J Slatlll t a11d thus d id noc r'tl.ate to provincial aff:liN •wl~i!~ pr.:.IYlm:es p;Js~ o.:n;1bling t t:•tute\1. S<.mw did, otbc:r$ did oot, SecoOO. the DiU f)( Rights was never gi~·en the priol'ity oooside,'3t.io•t Mt. Oief~nb:tktr had hoped a11d ~ntkip:tted it would n;.ccivc: by the: Supreme C<Kirt ot' Canalla.

There: ">t:•'t example:< wh~re it was :1 pt~>l e~'ti.:Jn to C'wr~dr. lHlS. such ~~~ the nry~N;NJ~$ case. ~1 1 ull too often the prot~ tions offer~ indh·idtJal Canadians '11.-tr'C ignori:d b_v t.he Supro:me Court lu tl•~· d~dsionJ< t hAt :IU&ut~t budy n:udo.:l'\'d.

IJ«ause •hc:~>C a~ ruc.:ts, it pfC~Ues me that "''C will ha"c u Chatie• of Rights aod f'rcOOo.o~ In our CoMiitut:(,n ih:ti h>ucho.:$ lxKh the fc:de:r:1l and pr;,n·incial ~-c:rnment$. While tbut chaner might not be perfection. it is tbc. bcgin11.ing ut so.nctbing w:ry spe:ci111 in the :'lrc.ll q( dgi•U :'md t'reedorn.s thou will be b•1 lft upc>n in a uul~· dcmoc:rtnic way as Canada lltO'I~ forward to find its tight.ful plsoo i" tht su!l.

N<lvember 4, 1911 1 ~ •·:•JS a hi.stt.wic cL1y of ml)nument:•l signilico.n<:e for the maturity of Caouda aOO Canadians. Afmost sinre tbe lllSI gcner-.)1 t lec1irn1 there h~s beeu an urgency l)f putJXl'l.: l>n t he pan q( che Prime Miuit:tcr IQ concci,•e a new Constitution for Canada. Many "'ill argue. a nd tl)(:rt i ~ much ~·ldcnee to suppc•rt $uCh :\rt,um.: .. uts, 111.'11 'll't $ttcrifioed m uch f rom un cc:onomie ' 'i<tbillty poi.nt of view tq reaM this momcm in our l1istory. SueJl arsumet~u. hov.•crt••. ~nnot diluoc th.: ~,x-.:ia l .signific:.JK-c (If thi$ de b.1tc. Wt: ""'~ C>Jmc: (){~in a :sp«iaf wny, Tbet~ wcrt tinld l~'ll:dmg up tO the agreement l)f Nm·embtr

4 whe-n I fe:l~l f<w tl:lit~ ltt11ioo's fiJturc. To be I'Cf)' hon~t. I was a pessi.mi.sl a bout a linalugreeme.nt in CaMda. J bated to im:Jgifle -.lt.m •t•i&ht tr;IUtipln:'in U 1n!SW• wen.l\lllcb im :1CC'()rd llQC achicl-cd. The nc.:b i~vem<:nt of agre~n\!411 bet..,.·een 1he fedc:tal gollett'lfll<:llt and nine of tht tell pt~·inoes ol C'3n:ld:'l was :l \'i<:!ory f01 t lh.~ m:1turily of QIU nation ~nd it~ pi:opl~, :~nd nql for any .sii'J;gle individual in this natfoll.

• • 16*t\')

HowC'\•er. it muse be rtoognitcd 11'-'11 the stubborr. pcr,sist· cnre of the Prime: Minlsu:-r m:Hfe: it h:1ppen. h mu!st 11b0 be

rcoognized tb:tt tbc Ptin)C Minister prO'I·«J hirmdf u most able nc.~;(l(i:ltOr in his dClllill£-i wilb t11e ten pt~·incial Prcmi«s.

11 mut~t • lso be f'OC)()!ni%ed lhnl my leader made a '-ery &!)«Nil. ~ignifieunt and QOOtugoous. oootlibutioo I<> this :~chkvcment. 1'hL'i'\) were: m:my times, dfli:C:i:l.ll)' in the final momhs ol 1980 »nd ng<~in d11rinJ the wmmittec he.uings 11nd the deb:ue that foUO'i''Cd in thi$ chamber. bcJore che resolutiolt wa$ referred I() th..: Supreme CO!.ut of Ctn:td:1, '<''lloen Ill)' l~:'l der .;ould ha\'t tnken different, more: pop11t.ar stand$. 811t be pc:f· slsu:d. :'lnd in m.:wy w:l)'S ... u t he caLat)'St that l:ept it moving until ..,..e hold this document beforo.: IJ.S.

The prcmie.rs, in rcptesenting (he diO't'fc:m 'l'ie'l\•$ of our ''et)' Llrge nuliQn, m~edc it hlltlf'l\'n b«~uk tbcy wc.r.:; willing hl oomptomisc. which i~> the an of poli liC$, ••ith the Prime Minister. The MinJst« {)( Justioe (Mr. Cht~ie-n } h:tS been the ..-'(lrkh'l)r~ (<>c the PTim..: Minister h1 ilt c1ns that tht: OClll1 '<':t$ put oo the:. skeleton when deals 1>.'t're mJidc. The hon. member (or Provencher ( Mr. Epf)) fron) our prucy acquiucd. hims.clf with djstinction in 1\i ~ ,;ped:d etr<wu 1(1 :H:bi.eYe thi: COtnpro. mise th:'lt final ly beC;.tme the acoord.

I came. from a town and county in NO\'tl Sootia thnt has e.:>nl ribu ted mnch tn tbc hisw~y of the t'lat;on. The first member from Cuml).:.rfowd, which w:: .< I he ~•>lt'ltitucn<:)· I f'lr1t repte-s<:otcd in Pa1liamem. was Sir Charles Tuppe1'. Sir Choule$ Tupper w :l$ j<li.n«f bf 1hrtt OI!Kr3 from Cumbetland. namely, Dkkc:y, McCully 1111d c·h~ r)dler 1111 f":. tiKrs or Conred. er-.utoo. io conceiving this nation.

1 "'ould su,ggcst to the bon .. member ror EdtOOnll)n f!a.s1 (Mr. Yurk.;,) t h:u t:tking fl:lnds Ofl f>l*nifict~lll matters can sometimes pt'OI?C to be a l'<tY IK\IIYY OOrden. I have IIC)Ine apprt>Ciatio•~ or how t.e has fclt doling tihls long ddxne on the Constitulion tx:c.1u,so ql h.i~ tummitmenl to 3 C hsner a( Rights 3!ld Fr<:edo<m. I might tell the OOn. mem_ber th:ll t Sir Cb:'i rltll ThJ!P«. who >ASS Ptt'·lll~r of N'O\'Il Sootia and made d1e dcc:i~>ion to h<n'C N.,..., Sc.:MI;a join in the eonftd.:ration o( the ptO\•iooes of Nova Scotia , New O:mn$..,.·id:, lJpper C'l nd l.ow~r Can:'1d:i. found that in N0\'8 ScoLi:t be was one of thrte MP$ tl«tctl t<J l'arljument in 1~7. wit11 l<i U bt·ral MP! Oj~cd 10 <:O•Ir~o'Cicralio" eiCC'tcd in tbc: <Kher $Cil!$. S ir Cbarl~ :•lW facmd ht: unle:af>lw:d tl1e aoget of Joseph Ho..-·e. a not insis.niftc.:am foro<: in tlle poJiti<:s. of ou.r rulion nt th:1l lim~.

I bc:li(!l.'t tbll t Jobn Oitfcnl>.)tcr w()u!d h:~w <:b:l1tlpioned thi:l 4'0il:ltitutiolt:'l l aroQ(d because it i$ the fi rm ~nee 1h:n we believe in WT~Iws :tnd in <ltlr fututt· des1ii1)'. We are invoh•ed in a un«<:tte a nd historic hoppc::ujng th411 wiU nqC n:1urn :'ltain I<) oot natibn.

F<lt' t~e 'll'ho feel it is oot the pcrrcc.:t document, ond it is n<.K, I $a)', do !)l)t be conc:trncd. bo.~use •wh~n t.~is rl!llolutiot'l is JlllSSed by Wc.stminster we will h~'·c: n Con~titution in QCJr !I:UM>!• thill .::30 be improved upon beca~L.Se, included in that (:o~ihiHQn, is a n amcndin~ fonnub tl1at gu:ttatltOCS the Caoodian Constitution will n<lt be~ome a s lerile dQCurnenlonly amend.:!ble by tJ.,: Sut>~eme. Court of CoSnad:t bu1 wiU reOoct t he nHilt.tdes und des.ires or Cw(lldi~IIS thr()Ugh tbtfr e:kcted rep~.>eJU~ th·ts. either federal or pro11in<:i.al.

NO\·embcr 2.5, l981 • COMMONS DEBATES

I say to my ooUeagwe from the-p«wince of Quebec wbo bu j\13( l inidu:d hi:s tpeedt tha.t I ra,Uy feel for the mcmbc:r.s fNm ibe proviooe of Quebec at thi~ pattkulaJ juncture in our bjstory because. by and lal'ge, they sup.'IOtt the Prime Min.is.te:r in his 11pc:dal eommitn~ent to pi'Qduce 11 l'loC"'' Cllnndian Coo$-1i• tution and, at tbc same time, they have a lO"'ctnment in their pi'O'I'ince that opposes the objectives or a new kind of Cat1ada (Qr Canudian.'l. I ~n well undent;,~nd why the Premier of the pi"Q''·in.;c of Qu~ ,..oo.ld fiDd arg_-umet'lts with every won:! and phrase-in that OOC'IStftutiMal aeoord t.llat bus been agreed tlpon, .:~f!unxnts ••by he ~boo ld no1 siso ic. 11 is ~u·se tbe wbole aspect of that aCOOfd is opposed to his philosophy 01~ the place n f Qu~bcc in f11ture on d•e continent of N-orth America. They are in tbe vanguard in ensuring that tbe people of the pt"'Viocc. of Quebec- ha.ve- t.he opportunity tomorTiJw, if DOt tuday. 1<1 becume f1.1U pert.ners in tbe eonfeckNiion of Canadu. No mauer 'A'h.u Mr. UvC$que thlnb of whe:re h'is prOio'ill« should be beading, I beli~·e t.hc-rc will be.:~ differe-nt government in •lull pr<Winoc tomorrow and there wit! be the opporhtni l)' fOf lhe people of tl13t pr<Wince to join with tbe rt$1 of Csnnds in. the signinguf thill llcc<wd. Thtr.t i ~ my 1tUit1.1de, Mr. Spc:uka.

l lhink: th.3t thi~ C<w111tituti00 i$ much large--: t h.lrl ~ny pc>litiod party. 1t is a special f<cllna that e-very individ~~-&~ m1.1~t ba,·e about his own lltltion. While it is 1101 the perfect docu· nlc-nt, in my <>pinill)n, it i~ .l very unique (.':lfl!ldi:.n ~lC\Im~nt. 11nlike <~ny otller oon11titution in the- ""'OI'Id. We should rocog· nite it as a sigu:al aehlevemcnL Thi!l debate. lutd thiil resolution in11tila new ~nse of prilk in me wbco I"'>' I am a Canadian.

As well, it pic:i..sd me, 1111 IJre!lident q( the John G. l)N:fcn• b;Lker Memor.,_l Foundation. to know tbat while this debate is taki.n.(! plaoe in the HoliSC, our fou.-da tion will be holdi n-& its lir$t atlnual meeting in tbU building. While we C:,'IIITIOt tmyc­Jobn Diefenbaker "''ith us to prO\'idc the inspirational messase he always ms.naged on hittmk oe<:a!lions. we wiU be ublc- w fl'lY u ibutc- to tbe $pccial cxmlril.>ution be m.1de to eh< b...-iJIJins of thU. nation.

ln «<DCfos:ion I "''OOld like to say to tbc members of tbc present govemtl'letlL ail Prtsidtnt ol 111e JC)bn G. Didtnbatct Mem(lritr.l 1;·-~.K~nd<uion, lbal I thtr..nk tll~ fQt t heir cx.~n$-lder· ation and reconS-ideration in ~latioo to Mr. Dkfcnbakct's bon'le in Rockllrte hrk, which he: bequeathed to the- n:Uio()(l. In the lint instan-ce.. the g001-ernment bdieved il eould oot aooept the house because of many olher oonunitu'lenu it had msde to Mr. Oiefenbaktr in hill life bul, on rellcctic.m and rcoonllid~n· LiQn it has agreed to ae<:epl it as a his.tOfic site and a museum for fut ure g_encrat.ion:s of Canadians. Stld b;U ag~ to ask tJro foundatiori tO implc:menl llf!.d carry out t he Oflctlttioo of th.AI tlomc ll-~ a bUcoric 11ite adlf-muscum. I can .say to you:, Mr. Speaker. the foutldali-otl aecepu that responsibili ty with ~ grc.at dol (>f pride-un6 piQllllre, As Qfle who Ita$ bee.n here for 11 lonJ time, I ~n only say that I deeply ~gret tbat John Oiefenbakcr is not v.·itb us tod.tly. I am .iuTe lte woutd conslda thf:-1 ;t \>cry llpt:ci~tl and unique ddxue tb.11 will be foreYer an important factor in the lives not ool)' of CanadlallS tod3i)' but o( CaJiadiiUt!l, tOrm)ftt~w.

Mr. Nidli«.J: I ri~ on u point of ordet. Mr. Speuker.

Tht Cofl.flitlltiOif Mr. 81t h : No.

Mr • .Nklsc•: J)id I har the Mini~tcr ol Supply :11~ SaYk(JO sa.yins no1

Mr. Bl•i.$: I wil!l (:Omn~rttlng oo a private OCWI~rsation.

Mr. Nlt ,scn: I rose on • point of order wbic;b I think will be rkas.lng t l) the s<Wtrnn'lent, especially lhC· g<Wtrnment House k:adet. In Otder to <:Jtpcdjte tbe debate and the hoper1.11 e;,..rly cooclusiOfl of dtba1e oo the resolution. •·e in this puty are QO'olo'

p(epurcd 10 vote at o~:~cc On the sub;tmendmcnt.

Mr. OtaM: Mr. Speaker. ·~ ""'Wld "d<liabted to 'o"QCe 20 minutt:s fr<la'l rtow. as soon as tbe boo. member ror Tbe Battlefwd!S·~h:;uk>w L..ate (Mr. Angulllh) has oompkted bill speech.

Tk Actiaa Spe•ker (Mr. a..k-er): The Chair will take-the Jjlcnoe tu; !W)mc- indkation thst tbc la..s-1 proposal...,'fts agreed to.

Mr. Niehot11: NC>. it was not, Mr. Spc1tker. We IIN: prcpoued to vote 11t QIKC.. if the Clta.ir c;tn obtlli rt the conse-nt of ull p.'IT1i~:s; I am :wre )'l}tl will get it from the govetnmcnlsidt.

(1'ron.tlaJj(Ntl M.r. Pi•ard: Mr. Speaker, 'A'e are q11ite willin& to ''l.)te

any~ime-. Ck:arly tnoug.h tbc Nev.· Denlocrat.s ate indietting th.1t lhcy wo1.1ld prerer «Jn1ributing one mon:- speaker. ·n~ere­fotc-, we are noc denying consent. Jn t hese c:irc"m"tances, we: arc ayecabte-. I do not think tl~y ate.

(EngliJir l Mr. NJeku: You ge:;tQre. Mr. Speaker; we nrt: :still pre-­

pared to ~ote at oft«.

T•~ A«i• &S!ldbr (Mr. 81tktr): his trident to tbc Chair 'JI;~t tbere i5 no <Jjlleemenl-, but tbc hon. mtmbc-J for Yukon (Mr. Nielsen) i.s encouraging the Chair to p1.1t tM question to the Jololl$C. b thc~:C unanimi)IIS oonstnt eo ptoccc:d to tht ~'OIC' im.mcd:iately-1

So•~ ho•. Mtmkrs: Ag,tecd.

Some hoD. Mc-mMrs: No.

Mr. Ooua Aaauish (Tiw Bat11Clf1Xtb-Mca4ow Lab): Mr. Spe.1ker. <Ki.gin~lly I bnd nany ooncern.s llbout the process of palliating tbe Canadian Constiltltion, Ccstainly th~ (>r~ginnl PJ!Ck.:lg~:: h:u dil!.rtg-td 1)\·tr t.he many months lh<: Hoti$C o( COfl'lmoM and tbe people qf C'.tn:ldit haw becu intcnstly involved In tbc patriatioo proe<ss. My original wnc:crn$ were 11bout tbt unilate-Jallsrn of tbe process '-ersus eo·operative rederu.lism of the pr<.Wincc.., working togttllf:r' to form <ltle oountr'y. I hsd ooncerns about the pec:kage as "''ell. in 'emu or provi.nc:iaJ o"'·neu h.ip uf re$()(1rces, the ll lllending formuJa, thc­rcfe~ndum a•ld the Senace v<1o. Also I ""'nll concerned ;-~bout (.!alive right!! fnMn the- be.ginnin#.

1Jll6 COMMONS DEBATES

Tlw CtJ~tt~,J•.tiH

We a.:avt re:acllcd tb~ putnt '"tilt ddkl.tc. 111Ml I ;ul'l llmitcd to %0 minetet~. I t~holnld lib to 4wdt On Ilk 3U~jec;1 of tbe aub1unc:ndrnoent :ukf t.he :unend tntllt oonttr"'"' n:nl~ rigbu ""hk:h ate fll)w lnd udo.-d in the pH:klliiC" o..Ct :tp ut. Al:w I huve another «~n.;..:.fn • ·it.h l'e!!.lArd to th~ t>rOYh.c;c Q( Quebec. I t hould H~ 'to:r}' ttmc-.h for the O•t~Meol3 10 be ,,.. , o( the fl~h~C II'Itnl. I h<•pc t he libcrz•l r~mbc:l'll of th.111 t)r<.l.,;ncc HillY rtpte!$l'l11 t he people io •·hat t hey arc dolna I hope 1 here wiU In fact be 111 acwrd a«OSi Camub al\d tb11 t ~e wfll n:rl\l$1n '"''e OOifntry. h Sil&kr.tt me deeply to think that Qvcbec is not p.IIM of I he 1c:cord.

Wbea I 5PQk ot lndiaa •ne! \f(1tf ~ kl me lnlke it dCIIr tlul I n:ler to ueaty l ldiiM,. MO..Uiti lndb.m., 1.bc l11•i1 ud t1le M«is.. Uaku I ~:uc: Oliwf• L'lll. wfkn I 'JIC"l of ladil.• MC! Mrus peopk rM iJ wtMt 1 aa ... n,. mcu. J qs

~al •ben lJie a.xord catlk' tud on 'lovcmbct j atld tk rm:~tflitioft o( tJw 3.borigin:al righ~~ of Mliv. people in the counlty lttd bcm re~. I am pleakel to 11 l.arp clltent that w~ wdl now plate it back in the" cllartcr.

O!Ml p:utlcul;u :u a or OOnCIC:m t<l nK I~ t he word "exhting'' which b bcins i.n<:luded in the rcsolutic)fl 111 tt now &lal'ld.t .. 11 the word .. existing" doe3 II(M m<-'3n an)'lltlll$,. 1r il ;., there Jll't to mul:e ti\I"Wc t.\pl il.-it 1he m~:unins or 11•~: .\Otli(lf'l in the rc10lutiun, ir it does not cklng_c 1111ythina. h iA lntfiOi'ta.•tt as a m•tte~ of Jl(illtiplt 16 fi:iYt lt i l'mc,.'l!d, C.rccillll)• bMn11$G (lr the dilili'U~I lncU:m u d Met~ JlCOI'Ie ha'o'e ror ~-ern.mCfltS •hkb lun-e dcth with lkm oYet • numbtt or ;car ... ,oias lllct. . to the first trt:J.ticil that were .Qpfd aJid lbc muy ~ lhlt W'Cn: brotco.

ht tbc part o( Sub1dtoeun •t.ldll ~'"· 1~ li.I'C' 11 l~au ~ 11.nd llppro.xr~mllcfy 50 per Cc'l'lt ol tk popub­tloa olthe t10rt'-era part of my rid•ft.8 CIOMiJU of MrtiS pcoflk. From livifll; ita the are. tt.nd luvi.ns wcwhd dotdy "'' ' h 1 ndill n aMI Metls pcuple., I ki)()W lbe)' have ~ery •pcchl.l richu whkll h11ve been f"CCQCnizc:d. l am rtretritiJIO their hlttorie:d ria:hu;, 10 KriptJ, to t he aN'Irnaative actiu11 p~tll lflf in vnrlu-1• ~ pu_rt$

or ClltUid:•. ' " $Utule~. tre;11ies nnd to 1ho tQyo.l prod:•.matioo ol 1 7~J . (( is. n<K a matter of lhtm •.ut l.,_vh•a rliJuJI. 1'hl: red probklll l11 tl~.at ove".r lhc )~l~~ Jlll cCQflo•nle bii$C has nevcs been (of'n)cd. Thc.re hu ne'\'ct been u p.'llltical ,...iJ.....,.nd I ss~· thit in • IIOil·paM.isis.n maMtr- to brina 1hw111 riahts •o 11M:: fortJr<Mt ud to de\-c:lop the noc:dl:d OCCMIOmle b&~etliO that the pcopk of •~ton! •·c. are $11Clk~ 1ocb)' etn ln-e ~~> lt• .liOmt'

pride aacl dipit).

Oott:r tlw yc:.an vc:at imlii11CtOIU • ·crt ck\<~ ••id ·~ .tuppOMid eo take- urc of llldjla a.d ~let"' PNPk. T"'-arat iftltll•tioM Uw taiW. I• t~a. the-y pbeecr l l)lfwn flC'OI'k 11110

• pot.ih1M ol rel'ia.DCe upon our ayncm. We line domi~t«< 1Mm We have pas.sW ouc monoey 10 appj~aie' tlwu (n:bnp and at time:• to b .:p the:u:a <t " i<e~, ·rnl$ hnt ( 11\ltcd v atc:ilt l'c:ac:tion iu tl'tt: •h1tc community. Many people fn the .,..hilc co•rununhy arc. up1t1 b.)' tJ1e :unoonts (I( moouy and by I he tiM,ht, ;;rn·cn 10 lndiilll a~Mf Mc11J1 people, b1.1t they do 1'101 unod<lNiancl lllal all thAt gh'lng wu oot helping. 11 hills only t•J)J~<~dkd ltd ian and Mctb people in Can:tda. and nmdc tlae m ~~~~.

I ko:lvc rtl<ftlioncd lh.:!t tile wl,.ltd .. custl'll! .. Jhould be remoYcd. I feel YC'J ltN.W~IIY about tbls. lt is a principle ol la\lt, ol statutory intcrpret.uiotl. t.hat tvtty •Ud in 11 itlltut~ftd in thlt case it is I he Co~itudtm-ll~$ me:~nins .. ~ mullt be oonsidcred by the:· cou1U wbcn somethin~ come~ before ti\CI'II, 11 tl1is word rcmBinll, I tilt • ~ure t he judges ... ill have: uu ny 11'1111 t he word ill th<lrc btcllu.K the leti$lntol'$ Of &he pllrlinmenuul­ant, the peOj)lo who put il it~to tile Constitution., the ~~rnlna b w ol the innd, Wlt.nlcd lt 1buc. 11 may ma n • nriety or lJijngs. Fo1 n atnple-. lbc Me1i1 people v e flot fe001nizrd by the federal Dc-pattll.eot of J IHoliot u .h.arins uy rlt)lu.. Jr tile c:ou:nJblk at I he i•se:rprd.ltiolt q( the 0c:paJ'UI)(:ftt o( Jusdoc • it..,l lootii'IJ at tt.c •iA<wk rqttu.. t1te Jaftd serlfiU aftd otbtt ~ol MctM pc:opk.thr Mtttseotdd very 1ft'JIUvoe .o riaMa left ull6ct cM COMik•tioa as it Jta .. IIOW with tllte u.ct~ of tk WOfd .. ud1iq ... I• Olr'lb to darif)' k cw to =-1~ it ~.tplcit i• tcr~M of dllc. 1QJ I am spc;1-k.inz tc.ldily, the wotd Jbould be ddct«<.

( chink there a,. thlna- • ·hl-:h Jhoutd ba\'t lu~.ned bcfo~ we became in~v~l In t he wn~tit\nional Pf'OCC!f, 1\l ha& bttn mcntiooed by Other hon. n-.embcn1. the talks wilh Indian and Mcti$ I)C()ple. thould h"ve t.,kc.u Jlt11<:e: bcfo~ tht C(lfl$1ilutiofll&l rcsoolution was dran~:,J, 1'bc provinocial and redc:.rol ~'Crtl · mecrHS tl'il-d 10 utiJ)(l'C ...-.me t)'pe of t ig.hts without ad«~uate MlliUIInli()n and d!C fOO.i, nt (I( I he o:tlxJriginul ~. I he flnt peoples or I he land

New.• I ~hou.ld M.~ to rt'f Cf ao a point •itkh _.u juu ~aht

10 my •ue.tion T~y lite: Ncwf0111IKIIand ieJ;ilaf•te ..... bt ia a ~ 10 k«:p t1tc • Otd ~ ia W1 sttdoe ol the COII$UtuliQNI ~'--'OIL I ..-u illformcd a few ~n~C~Mt~tti

qo 1ba1 Prc .. lu- Briu Pcdf«d illtroduccd the mot.tion &n lb.! NNfoundblld QUCmbly and it • ·as deftattd.

Soatt 1to1a. ~h·•IMrt.: llc;~r, Mu.~

Mr. A•'l•illlit: Th~r\: mlahl be ;l t l'Urd rNlm the premier• bul there ls ocrtuinly no1 fiQOI.Irl.l frorn all 80\'crnments. l'hc Ubc:r· als <'! nd .soo•c Cooscn•u t i~ i1l Newfoundland dcfttlled the rc5Qiulion l l)d-li )' , 1'hi~ JhCiuld IJI.'"r he.Wil)' Uplllll l .hc mj~[t 01'

the patliamclltll rill llll • llo will be l'OCiog on this rcsoluciotl in lt~ lh:tn lln hour,

I $houkt lit e to dC"AI Yt'llh the items d~at I fed sbW have bt:e1l inelodod i• Soct.-. .U bet •'tt'C Jl'l l io the btt.cttrt~~~ad, We sbcNitcl biy do-• .onw priDOpldc whiet. ~ the difor:w. sioo.s. ~n«eif!CS « CC~~~trnt·fiiiCiillcs ~. witb lltdiu ud Mttis: pe<lCik •ltiUelhe period ol a )""Ut afut llte CM:Uilut~c. ~ tJ.dl NfM 'ThoM IO"'eNII"I pri.ciplcs shogJd ckfine who ahe t:t~l1 I .tAll ~ •re. • r.cJ the lnuit ;are, • ·lrlo tbe: Mctht :arc, who the 11\lft•ll.lltiU l nditt.llil ol 1bls: country .,.,

Tbey slloutd doet~'fnline wh:u tbc r•.g.hu of these fi'OUJIII arc fO

that we Ctl ll t~>mc 10 fl)lllC:. ti11d of fair scctlement a.nd live wich t.hesc ~roo rJ:~ In hnrn,On.)'. AJ u 110eial dcmocnu 11nd 11~ a New Demoonu I belle'~ they ,thould have sotn~: right o( .self--deter· minalion. I a lso belle:~ l_hol i8 thQ way mosl Cun.~~d inns •·ould "'.""' the il'S=uc rcwh'td.

.. November 25, 1981 COMMONS DEBATES 13281

h mu.u be. m:tdc clear that the Meei~ J!C(Iplc: are in t'ac:t llldian people. Tbat should be stressed in lh.: s.:n·ernint Sec· tioo 91(24) of tbe British North Amerk a Act. We ~bouJd rccognju: the Metis people a.nd lhe tiOIHUtus lnd.l:u~ ill!

lndiluu in the Jansuu_ee of tbe statutes that \lo'C put Lbroogh tbe Hou~.

Also. the following princip!t1! .shQilkl preYAil llt the mcetinJ$ provided for in Scctiaa 36 . Tbt!>t prind plt$ were ;~ ulhc.wi :t<d and apptO\'ed by the Joint a,.,,,d l of th-e N.11t iom1l lndh n Brotb« bood. The)' read:

I, ne ,t..,n,;qal lill~ abM,;n111 ri'll« •Id ''~')' t iJW 41 ~~ abcori&iMI I'Wfllu of C'liUda. ho:J.-il:

t~) all rlp~S kltli.lllnOal by (lo11 lt\1)~1 Ptvduqtk!<! !If O.:tolxr '1111. I 16J; fto) 1111 ti11lo1J ~in •nodn bei..,WIIIh Cr(Nn alld *llbU«UObcsllt 1<1dhiiiS ilC'.:In.l4;l till..,... !.M ~•if~! C!'>m'tp ofT,...Ii::o.; (~) ~~~ t~l$2~11irto! ~ oboJri!lifll! ~W i• .-lfowl>l, Ill ,IJI«fl'lli!IS ,.itll ' '-Crown.,.. llmip.al riJ,bls ud t hle:

~R .beuby R«~~;IIIT.N. CllnfltonC!I!, tl\li.fled • •Id lll•~<lim:ol. 2. "Ab<lrlp::il pq,pll: .. rnc~n, •« m.. Nalio.>rw ..,, Tribu or lnditu on ~~~-~~~~~ aKI! N•liort.lla•ifta tilt rl&k 10 deOr.o: lu 00M1 Gdlii:IIIO.

l. Tllou ~tiSofthc ~d f'Mdl:lml lio.ln l)f O.:IOk:r itlo, 17fo}. r ...,.,;lj, S (q, cl~< r~ or 1k N~lion;; "' tn1),;, ..,r lfldi.uu •ro 11:-cally u oJ r»fltiully bil!6il!: .,,. '"'~~..t<on •"" Oriu.li f'•rli:om('IIU.

4. No b-. d Can.~do. {rl o( lilt PI'IWIIIM'o ono'J.aronfl l ll'" C lul'ko oor Jt it~ :uod I'~~ 111 IIIo .. (.'flflj.f_hufio)ol jj( C'.:On1<lo, •h• ll h~(l(t ~«of!tl~ ('t illlr l*' »l" tt1 ~llt~u:. '"""ec or di..U.ith c~ ri~tiiiS.;«ifl..t I• S«•W.os I and J.<l !kit P.:~ rt.

$. ~~)The- hllillllt<t:l t lld (i;)Won,.,.nl 1)1 Clfn1"" ~~~~ '-"' ~~~ot<J ~ Ill,;; ~.i.olK. M llc f11ll .....,r.ucic.-1! 11nd ~""illllllion of the r(,tllu: tpco.ilitd irt Swtio.Ja I ud J of t!OJ P.w.

(b)S..dlt llf~ill~ Qo:,U bt: inlcrn• liOndly ,l;cJ"""~ ;r oho: ~~~~;..,y P"'l!llcoo pil'tb lllllll,tio: ""'t't*i:!l-tO ~.

(~J S~h ~bl3oo!l, ._,,Any "fl~enn_, IX.'<Jdto.laJ l~f\1l.ly, .sl»l be. •ilt •k full ,.,,;Qpuio;m ,111.o.l l~ll (ulf OCJII-t <l•bor~iwl fltO~ 11fft.:1oi.

6. Anyll.,cedme...ss lo.> 1!:.; a,.,, • .,,;v.. ..,r <:a!<'!<l l in rtl•tion eo l ll)'llt'!lslku· llOIW llllU• r& which lffw.lhc tborijlintl ~~ lnctldln8 tJit loemltimUOn« def*'ti011 of eh .. t4ilo~:s dllll)' 11f ~~ fOll:l«, ~•11 1x ""'"" .,.,,. .,.;,llo tlo~< ,.. ... 11( lilt .. p>i:t8"8 Q)o>ndl, Qr.•nol ('~.uuil Ql' AMmliy of Ulill AWficic'll ~~~"> 11rr..,,~ by w.;l! ;,mcn<lmoenl. idc111illenioQ or okllti!W...

?, ,A Tm11 ud A ~!origin•~ R:i11b~ Prot«tk-ot OHi~ ~;t/1 be nwbbolled.

I tbink it is impetath'e tb:u the GCA•t t nnse nl of Ctut.'lda and ..--e a.J p.'lrliamentarians take action on this, Mr. Speat:u. Tbe. lndi11.n llnd Metis people in tbis ootmtry ha~e bad rights for many ye.tr£ but one: woul4 hardly realize this to scc them on 1bt reser\'C (If" in the ur~n n<ltive sc:uiog:s where akoboJUm runs high aiMf u~Wmploymeont Is ~uch :~ d~1er lh;ll h i~ nQt i12cfudcd in the St:u istiCil Can:;d:t uoemployment ~1X1rl1:. Today. Indian bllbie& arc be(~ born with a fetal alcohol syndrome 11$ hijb as SO per cent. Tbi..s must h:we 11 disastrous eff'« l on the education or these c:hild rc:n and tbe way they will pRX.'COd throug h tjfc:. An <aboriginal rights prot~Xtion offtee s-h<.~u!d be establlshcd &<I t h:!l lt.erc: U politKu.l will alld <'11 tto•~ic base is esutbli:dted to fulfil tbose rights a nd us-pin\· tlons of t he Indian 2nd muive p.."()(Me. 1'ix)' m utot b.: fulfilled with some autbolity a•Mf by :t specific 81\'lup r&:SpC:>m<ible ror lho:;c obtigaticnts.

T lr" (;t}m lilMlifHI The doctt.n1en1 goes on as foUOil'S:

3. /1. <kdaru io11 tk• I nJi~n 0110~mm~l 9<.'""'' 6 :olld ~AAI:Iiilit:O$ •• M a pctfnt- . i!ttq/111 (~.:c in cllt Canld»" p..~jq,

Th:tt .si\Oiuld happe" withiJI tlte year following fXtttl.tni(ln. The dl)(;\lmt:" t cQntiniJCJ;

'J. ltJI 1'""·-'nltflol,j,.\(o, f*I-<Oniedtf'tdon lltfl!l~ dM llc.lt~ c:'llfCIIScd i111hid= 11~< pod""l bll..W~tri:A o!CIIn ... l>< 11~1 v.'lllellllppl)' totll'" l ~olian Nllion) or O;ma<lJ ., inl(tf!ati<.J,al tfU11 "lll'f(mt>:t~ ~- """~;:"'ip n•liof1,, Any ( )(inQC&U> 111 .. Utl'llk$ ""quire- t ilt t'I>Melll ru'!k t<o·o ~rtfe:UC> tbt tu:UI~. <o!IO aoc th~ l~" ~'<'ffi~Mnb tc~i~ hotl:i:lll N:nbu ~~ t lot <;,..,. lqlf'(•

t<:nlod by li.: :Orili::<h ~''""""'· tk C...ntdi~n O<wcr~l!l .. ~I);, third Pf.ftY 11ncl Cauot iMi~tC 0 ) d oU;ft'.

Tb:u rt"fers to agn:ement.S tlt;tt ba~"'e :tlrc.ld)' been made. Thooe thinp,:s sho11ld be clear in Qur m.im.ts "'·~ Cun~diun politi­(;i:ans when ·tbe resolution retU/M 1<1 this country. Tbose thi11gs should bt:: induded f<tr tlte prOtection of the. Indian :tnd Mcti$ poopte in order to Ot'ercome $0me or I be utrOOtics commilted o~e.r tbc- )'CSJS a11d to pot respect and self-det«mination back­into I he h<lnd$ qf •h.e Indian and MetU pehpfe.

So far we ha\'c failed t <l do this. Mr. Speaker. bot a good place to st:ll:'t wo.1uld be tO re•I'IO\·t the word "existing'-' (tom t ht! relioC.Nut~n b)' 'Vting for 1he toub;lme.ndmeOJL If th:l l ..-w d meaM Mthjng. then we sboofd remoc·e it as an indication or our cru$1. I( the ,.,i,rd ··~x ii1t.ing .. man~ SOnl<: tbing, d1en th:11 $"'-"•1d be <;$1-ttblisbed 100. I ba\'e tried w point ,_Ki t tbut t he interpte-tations of tbe courts nl!ly diffe(. The l ndia1l, and (~ped.:~ lly Lhe Mcdt prople , ln.'t)' ha .. ·e eo g<> to court to esUtbl i.s.h lbllt tftcy huve rights before they GIUl enter the Dego~iati.l\g .t>fOtt;>S in ,.,bicb they dctcm1inc what tbe.y want in the ~r ((lll(lwing p:llriiltion. I tltink t.he .... u d sltould be I'Cmovcd in o rder to daril'y the$-itoation.

We have reach.:<! the point .... ·hero w~ must restore tbe tn~St tb,1t hm1 been eroded ova the ycur.~ bt:t•n n our.~dves and the lndla11 and Mc:tios poople. Earlier today. a Con&«Vative tuembet spoki' o( smoki t'tg d te J)C'~'t<."C·pipe togetbet , t.alkh;g ~botH conce:m!l, ~nd th~:n $igning <& dt.lCumen~. Uut th~t tn1tot has bee.n los:t <1ver the years. At tbe prc:s.ent time there is very Jiult lru!$1 bet'ilt't<:n t.l!e fndi:ut and Mctt~ people and tbe prWominaod)' wbi le g<.W<:rnmeot in Can:~dil .

Tbat rnuu be c-hanged. Mt. S~k«. Le-t us e.flsnge it oow by dc.k1iug the word "exi$ting .. fr<Jm t he rc:~lutioo . l,.et u.~

upprooc:b th-e ne~otltuions r~lo .... ·ins the pm iation of tbe Coo­sti llltlon with 3 poli1.ical v.•iJI to return to tilt hands or tbe n;Hh·c :md ;.~ bt)rigin.J1 ~>pltS the right uf .(clf-4etermin.:Ui()n, the r ig hl to t uide their own <lestjl))' and to btl \'C the Indians :wd Metis work witlt tbe re>.l ol Catl!lda ss they work io h.1rrf1Qny together.

So.t~te b>Oit.. Mf'•• bl:fs: Hear. he'J.r!

1\frt;. Un;ul• Appol(ltli (P»rfi,ame•t~ery Secrelary lo Mi:n_i-.. ter or NatJ(IIIlll Deft• et'): Mr. Speaker. il is J 14 )'CUI'$ sinoe 1ht F:llhn ,: of U)nft:de.r:nion laid alilde see-mingly irtecoocil· $ble <HO'eJcnces in 1bc l;~;rger in1ercst.s of thoO union q( this oounU)'. The oountry itself -.."as born. despite djfferen,es, a11<1 it g:rew in &efiann- uf te()8r:'IJ•It)'. Throughout the ~t.s, the pkll ror IIOil}' hat: ~ lllmO$• Slak ""'itJI frequenl t/.IO.&gt.

The ooin ma)' be common~ but it <:cttainl)' is not d' bascd.

13283 COMMONS DEBATES November 2$, 1931

The- ('tHiftlt~J.IitHI

Wltcn otlter ~011111 ric$ J:1boutt d irl blood and ftatticidal strife fqr their vn y lf,urvh·al, C :tn;lllian.' ; truu lcd in eontrovert.y and frequently acrimonious debate,

e ttWit

Ho .. ·ever. if thtre was ooe outstanding q uality whlc-b k(flt u~ together, .wtdy it v.•a$ Utt Qualit)' of f:tith., the taltb of S\lt;i:C:.$ive k adtrs th;~l C".in;~di:ans couJd prove to the lii'Ofld that a nadoo suc.b as th~ bom in stt ife. di'l'me in its OC'itins. spc:aiing two bnguilges :\nd. representing the cm\xldima~t M se,·eral sre;~ •. t"ltures, can $-un·ive aDd prosper. That faitb hM bctt1 t~tcd on many oecasloos.. Thtre were- those '*'bo ques­tioord ~r .,•ill to ~turrivc u.s a nation . There • >ere othen wbo, rcoognizing, the bone and the muscle <>f nationhood. queried whetlw:r or not v.·e (IO:S$t"''led t.he spirit of nationhood. 1'h~ tpiri t of nutioohood bad to be embodied in a liiCn&e of pMriotism v.·bicb would put Canada ahe3d or its parts: a nd. f« a Oottin.g pt!ri<ld. thlt t emotl<ln .,.,I! p;tlpably c:~·ideJII in tbc- ye:ar tQt murted Canadn's tc(ltennial.

Finull)'. we had a di.st i ncti ~-e. truJy Canadian flag which bccal'l'IC the symbol whicb helped erase tbt ima~ a.nd tbt id~ ()( any tind or hyphenated ConildiiJ.I), Jlowevcr, even the adoptioo or 11 d i.st iotcive Oag "''aS not surricient to instil in aU C3oad i31'1S a sea~ of conunon purpose, a dee-p $tnk of prtdt in l,hc:ir OO.tntry, anct nn nbiding (aith in its des-t iny. To~ c:<:rt<lin ~1ent, Conada w:u. a M~tion in searc:b of an identity. Aflct all. ""'hat d id it really cnean atid what does it ttally mean oo be a ColnJ~d iaJ\'! Now. for I he fir'$1 time in 114 year$, 111·e arc fin~tl.ly in e posiljQn 10 a' kasa p:udall)' ans'ft-c:r tb31 qucnion, an ;lnb·tr which prob:tbly • ·Quid A(l( have been supplk:d through the pi'Ote:ls or 5impk patrlation.

Finally, we: ;~re 11ble tq establish in our own minds and in the enioch of the rest of the wootld, the ki11d of pe<>ple we t eally ate. the Yilii<Nt e~t a country we-intend C:tl\ilda to be, a nd our dee-p oommilment ond k>yolty to t hat country and to the principl~ by whkh we govern ourselves.

I have noticed. arnoog some nw:tnbers or the pubtie. and cvtln <lithe media, a c:ef t:tin im!)JIIienct that P:tr'liami::nt t~hOUid devote so much time to c:onstitutional maneu when ccooomie llUittcrs arc 50 very pressing. My feeling is that uAIM we pr(lc:L"' im oor detenniM tiQn to ~urvive at~ a a)Untry, I() lh>e together, to work t()8etber and to build togetb« a wortb-whik: •~tiOI\, we will be const.Mtly ai1ailed bt t COMtnk- fotees lol whM:h the vet)' laclt of QOho;:s_io11 would len)·e us pa_rtieularly \'Uinel'\\bk,

FintAIIy, nnd in an awcwme endeavour demanding_ a .sense of •cspoosibility Y.'hi.cb the impor;t4t1« of th~ q uest-ion deserves.. .,.c: :srl) about to ttc:hieve thJ! t cOhesion. Heyw.·ever. even us. I &ense •be eu rboria ol t.he momem. I am oooseioos- as. indeed. arc all bon, .nember!l or t.l~~e Hou~f the- abset•ct o( ooe voice fron-1 th~ Jl"I}Ciam;,tion of a.tmmon tMnpotSe. Wh.;11 i$ th:tt purpose'! lt is to build a truly Caoadiu nation in which all its people will be kn<Wo'n b)• theit toli:rtlnct~ faifnest and dete.tc,ti· nlttiun t () nphc)ld the: dis.nity a nd lo ;.u:knowlcdse the intrin!iic \'Blue of every man and every woman. h is oo t hese )'Cl')' ~Utibutes o f tolerance !litd faitneSl that I wkh tO d well as I

beli~ t~)' are tbe ba.llnlatk or t!)e oonsti tutiol\liJ proposal now bef(tttl us.

P<:rhar» I am in a unique position to be objective in ano.ly· slt~g the- Canad ian idetltit)' !Of che ~i rnple reason that I am probAbly the ne:wc:5t Cau d i:•n in the entire Hoose. in;t!.rnul!'h as eitil«<ship "''as oonferred on me only 11 yeaN aao. ThCfe>­fot.::~ I am Canadian not by bitth but v«y defini•d)' by COII'fiqioll , Unlike $()me people, I bud u c:hnioc of countries 10 wbk b I oould have emigrated, and eaeh of d1em proOO.!My C()U)d h:n'C: otfc:r® n\c: ~~~ t.'(Jual ~n\OUnt of e(lt)(IOmic oppottuoity.

Why. t.hen, did I apttifiC3IIy eh~ C.tiljlda? Fundamental· 1)', it oq,s b«••u.se oC my raith in CanO\d:i :il an OJll!n., fret, tolerant country which refused to remain p-riso~toCr of il$ own po.st but which .. •as C3pable of rt«mciJiltg the past v.'itb the PfeS<Int in ooe )'ibrant. throbbing hQpc fl)r t he future. I d~C)We it too boeau.sc o( its immense size aod tbc sense of grandeur. :tdvent.ure and rich v2:ricty which that ~lte denoted. ltl ~ta· pby alOfle it offered me-mofe we<tltb t h;~n, any tre;~~ure lrU'Io'C Qf ••hkl1 I lud CY('t read or drt3mcd. I beliC\•ed that Canada 'II'OUltl lii'C:I<:ome me :md my fa.mily, nnt ddpile our cultural baekgrourtd bu t. perhaps. C\'en beetJ.use l)r it. I beliC\•cd 1~1t dh·crJity w:tt oocL1idt:t'ed to be a challenge a nd even an asset w hcr th~n 3 piti;~ ble or even C(Jflto:.mptiblc JiatMUty. I bclit..-ed that the only restrictions imposed on m)'SC-If 11 11d on u.ll mem­ber$ ot my f~mily w..-re. th~~ <ll good rottlmotl sense, out ow-n ubiti ty and <l'ltr own .,.;nJnsness tl) wq,k.

My private faith in Canada aod in tlle Canadjao way 'Jf life hM b!!en fully justif'il!d. ilte d~ugh:tet of a ltl'f)trletl v.•ho had to join the surfr·agelle lTIO">emcot itt order to obtain the ritht IQ \'Ott ts now. betself, a ntetuber of Parliament. Tbc sk ter of a fully qu~lilicd ''clcrinnrian, deni-ed a praminl.'ll t $,0Vtttln~nt positioo because of his faith, ~n oow prou41y, ;~ nd wil h<:IUI ftar ot reprisal, ~laim ftoltt govctntncnt benches . .. , am a Cutbol i<:" .

My perso••al odyssey throogh four countries b1» nq doubt gi,·en me- 11 perspecth'C <11 rrttdom u~soec' by man)' v.'bo so blilhely take freedom for g!'llnted. Hov.·ever, the sactte ody10.1o.:y ga\•t me a~ insight into oth« sections of t.he d«ument now "nder dcbute 111·hen faie <:<m:spired to depri\·t me o( son,e. of my abililie:>. For )-ears. I joined t he l'<ln.ks o( bandleltpped people, This cba.tte:r is cloquwt testi.mony to the fact thlll a broket'l bc,xly d,oc$ not den<lte a bwleet1 .t,pirlL Hutl)lin wortb and digt~ity cannot a.nd mllSt not be g<W<:med by •he out111·ard ~ondjtiofl or appearance.

The:~fore. dmwn IQ t he freedt>m. tuk tanee and boundles.'l opport urtity whicb. (or rne. spelled Conada, I $1pplicd for and w:li !f;mtcd Canadi-3 ft citizenship. I so wd l remember t he day on • ·bich I became:. Canu.d~n eitir..£.'11 b:eause. fo:~r nle, it "''~:1 an O()CQSioo which prompted a "")' deep .sc::nse of mu.n >el ulld y :Hitudc :tnd. :H t h-e llttJ'Ie. time, a p:ttticulatly strong sense of responsibility tov.•;•rd tbc country wbkh lad :~o full)• acc:q)'led me, Ho:~v.·cver. ~·eo as I rejoiood that my own pcr.sonal faith in Cunada h:td bee11 an'lply justified. I soon realized that many of 11te freodoms w}lic:h I h-;\d enjl)yed bad b i:c-JI denied to <I<! he~. because the freedom I bad exp<;rie~Wed eame n04 from a

COMMONS DEBATES 111.19

CO~•t•tJQIQ.I Jlalltaftttt but n~ly (rum ttltdttloft. W~ ;all lu.ow tJiiit t,.,.dttMM cnnQC too oil en be btobn

Whcrcon my rn.'edc)f(l l!ad C(lme wilh a fcn&e or aood rtmunc. I '*'11' dctermi.ncd. bccsus.e it w!l~ tn) rc:iiXIfl~ibili ty, to JIU!lrantc.: the frt"edOIIIS or pN'll'll:o! wh(l Y,(ll,lld 'IClfl\~ Mlcr mt.. "i'h(rcri>rc, ll war nQt 11 kiod ot Rus.1illn roukue where 01)1! wondcn '*'bo '*'in be free and ~,~o"hO y,iiJ 1WM, On thill tnomotiUOOS OOCO.IJolt, 'A'C 111-e on lhc: twinJ: ol guu.r~ntft'in,a ll~c r-~~ms. fiOI Ju>t to me but to aU "'ilo oomeaflct ua, ud I am ''er.)'. very JN'(II;Id o( lbl.l.

Api•. u a oew Camediu. I j;p:ll~ of tM vua.a. ollhd ClOUIIIf')' •h!C:Iit bel •nn.aecf me.. tJ.c •ultll ud the di''U$itJ ol1c M a ne-. Ca..udiu ;tt lk titK tL tlle rr{otf'tad•lll • Qucliocc. I •u lobttcnd.. Fll$l of al. I w~W. I thc:lq.lu. - '1 to- c .. p:opk. born ..;:th thi:s itftlhC:MC' wcallll . ... , to JCl rid ol it .nd mate ~ Olunlt) sm:alhc:r'? H-o- eoWd ~ w:.at 1.0 IIWE Clnly tn a Pf""ilkc <Uid '*in • t:rellt bia country!"" I could not un4ellitaDd. (01' many, many montht.-perhJps I do •MM unden~cand ev~n to this tby- thl;ilc P<llPIC .. ho "''oold v.+;1nt to nult~ Cinad .. ~mlltlc:r. 1 remember alro thnt 111 tbut lime. flllttiC\IIIlrl)' i.n tbc House. Wt r~~Jttd ((lr the: fut ure <If our OOj,jntry. We fcattd ror C;,n;tdllo. I in r.:ocnt dii)'J tcu ii ~A-"\1 lhc 1111.11101)' yt.,. hat has happc:llcd. In Quebec tho Cllli( t wom.;.n goc IOf,etlkr in what w.·e taow eaU tlle Yvcuc fllO\'en~nt. Quietly &JKt i)'•l ~m.atlcally tb~o--y won ~er I he .,.,.k: leAder~ or Q •Kbt.'t Jnd m.ad( them •C«tJC d~ Cu;,diaa tit111tk.M l'~t .,..,, a trc:mtfldoln triu:mph fOf' the '*i\IIW'n ol ~ 1t llfU a lf'CmC'~ tri.amph for xJI of ~ud:a. 1 rc'f" to th..t bcca-.e wlut harp:oed ill the last few d.a)'l. has bot• WCW~Wt ~· We llaft *'CM;qd equ:alil} ~ tk .sv.ec •• tht.• CC*tftllticWI. h e. 1111t rulty t.Jqnb "' a re-. iadirid:q.l. ~ tcd men .-!to h;IPJIC., to be premicn c( prooril'l(d. il i& ~~t.~i•ly cfiK to tltc · ·Oft or wom.:n -~ fdt, ju:it L'l I du, aboot lfl.e lntqrlly and l h~ i nUtlhit 'lilfiK u( t he hUIMI'IJ!Cf!IOO

• CUlO!

1r I cnn, I would like to ditcct my pi~ to the women in Quebec in l».tticula.r 10 repeat ..-h::n the.)' d td, 1'be Yw!Ue •no~emcttt &"~"'tU a nd tl)c rel(l or Cttud:1 the Id~ m the fi u t plnc:e or 11ttl.:knl$ IOJCtbc:r to ensure that wo c11n have .a u•thc:d ((lui'II'Y· I lld. the: •'0101:1! ln Qut:btc ttow to plea~ l1clp us ooce -.&»1•. 1 ••k thc.-m to tet 1lltbcir p.lW'er totcth<t" to '"""urc tbt thdr kackn II''C- to tlac:m the same equality that Ollf k:Mic:t$ llavc "*t lit lJie t'tSl of Ca:l:wb. I am ~re: tk)> CIA do that.

I •'le lk ..,..c:r.taU of ()tl~~nd hnoe •1~•• I CIA -'t 1pot 10 than ia E11:JN~ .-e: tbe:ir """"' 'l"ky QOIC' k)

CaltH.t wilb the Jatne tipi.i'atiofts 1ha1 I bvc. We·~ parao­ICC!tll tiM: ,_, .. u tl'l:'lt ~ tib me cajqy. I w:uu tht il'llnu· I'll""' In Quebec 10 !"talile tbat. I • 111111 tbcm top, to Mr. l,.hQquc to u k ILim what bt is doing. J W!I IU chenl CO Mk bim if he i!lnot robbine them of tbcir rigbts

No• I v.'tllll tu .f.(lo:!.1k d irect!)' 11> !hi: ..-(ltnefl or Q\li!bc.C. If t hey wlll fo•·gj~e tne. r .dl3lllty my rnlc-tul'\'ld Fhmcllt(l addreJS chefll il'l lhtir lungu.t!C·.

(T nMtl.a:IJonl l too am a womt~n I too am • mother wbo$c ll$p•rat:ioM a!\:

tbt same. 1U )>OOri (()tour dlildrcn. I too a•n a Canndi.an. S.:~, I invite }'{1111 1(1 Jl)in 1nc. In rn11 \ 1ng ll\lre thal tl~ wbol~ C11nadi:•n ramily has a rutu~ lmcd with hope. tolen~~nte und unlimited pt>tc:ntial.

! f:ngl/sh ) Mt. R• ,: Mr. Spe:~l:ct. I rise on a point of ol'dcr. lt .1riSC$

out of oommcntli made b)' the 11(1(1 member f(lf The l:bu~ leforlh-Metdo .. lake ( \h, Ancuidt). 1 ~· members of the IIQUr;c •<wtd • ·•nl aMit.K)' to ~-ail \\f\ik I do not fu\C tbe 'I'Ctbltim eoco.•t of'"' Ju,t tbe boo ~ ali4, I bd~ thu be c-* '"" put Out 1111t -. or ~bly • N'tw­rOIIDdlaad ,., 'tOted. ckatkd ,..,, .tt~~c •c.d .. Uucfna .. '• Sc::ctioo l4 •en- no1 ddctcd. tile a»embh- could flOC nppon $cctiorl )4. I • ·ul eo tclllhc H~ ucl tJt.t hoe. l!l<'mber-

Mr. F•ltt.t•: Tho.t Is not what hc.tol!itl.

1\tt. t: popc: ( thinlt t~oh ;u hi mtiXlrl.:uH is th:u I & mentitlft wbat bap(X'ncd, M r. SI)CIIkc.r. The"' Wll.5 an nttcmpt to hu~e the: m<ttk>n intrudu<:cd.l&nll the OPIXI6itiOI\ d id 114X gi\'C c:'Oil'ICIH.

h was on tbot bltiil~ thlll t he nlll)lion did nl>t so (<tr......,rd.

'ne Acti•& Spt>u.li.er (Mr. Old:.trl: Tbe Chair will rrrog,\l7e t.he bon. member for l'hc IJ.attldnrd ... Mcadbw l,.akc (Mr. AJ~,~uUh) 11. bon1 I upca 10 finnh I be i$$.1Je.

Mr. Anpifll: Mr. S,..ol et. I .,..... tk COC!oto:l of ~ny 1pech

to be l~taiC~ A11bit tlllfte I •;JI no1 ..,tbdr.t•· •"-• I aid ift my .ddreu tllk a~,.,._ I-IO'III"C"U, if cscrtts (Wet the ac11 tbJ$ jlro''C 1U1 wllil,t I MW w;u iluttwale-. ( •ill tnb••l)' su.t up in the HOtaK •• the stpp-opriatc tiroe •ftd withdf'iHI• an.y i~DCCot:atc st:at~ft'tC'nl I mipc. ba,·e mdc. I do ap(lftti:ne wh:at the lton mcmb« ii tt,11'11 to dq.

Mr. Fftd IU•i (0t•••p~n1Ub~Dtt•): Mr. Speaker. I reel c::spe.;ially fl'l'iVilcJC(i 11) t~kc llllrl in this OOtlitituhi)IUI)

dcb!lte in this Houte or Conunun~. the hiahe$t <.~1tt or the Can ;~.di11n refl lrn. Wlt i•Otll n doob1. or all t.he multi tude or i ~SUCS ••hich llavc OCCU I~itd Uu.~ tln'tl:, u.ttenti<Jn, l ii iC!II$ nnt.l etnotion.s of mrmbc11 0\'cf U1c: p113-t ccnwry. dti5 h-sue bu by ru lht g r cll l e;>l lmpliCihC>IIj,1'bC debate. • bicb has bc\":nthC! preooc:upation of tbc llou.sc despite ob\·wu10 more ~"'' ooonomic coattf•i. ~ill dd'inc the ruturc dirccliwt and oom~ plu.ion "t •hiJ C.-..Ja o1 Ollo"' 1or .a u.c '-0 oo.ne. 'This " ~­omdous and vil•l OOIIklll "' wll_tdt 1bc •"'* Couu1u1ion mswer m til bt jl.ldpd

A$ mda.,dt~:sk. ow C!Urxtcrs ~tt (Of'Mrd rn:.n tht tm:dpm ol all the itt:puts ucl •akiN • •id; h;.~YC pnc: {rlto o.r ~ mmt ro tllis J)Oint. We ltR lllc PfodU-tl of pa«"nUd pid:tnet, or cduqlion, or $pricw.l tol!vtetioo. ol t:•l~h012ffieftl. or tb_, inOU· woe of ititnds and or our community

SimHarly, Cannct.•• ch:t,..,~c:r 1" u mthm• has bc:o:n rormcd by out e . .(p:rieno!C Md uudilion~ it\ lrvil\(1. 1 og~h<:r as a rcdc:ra· liQn. The: IIUb~l llll« Of the Of'l£11'1;11 OOfiMitUti-onal ptO~ill Wli~

an attempt to n::pudlatc t he ~lioCnt laJ clement !~ <li tl•e (:hltrll(tc:r

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Tilt• COII<'ititllf;()ll

C>f Cauada, the dcmenl.'l ()( c.o.pcricncc in partnership a.nd eq_u.<~Jity whicll orew c::s5emiul in a fcdetal &tatc.

The Rjght Hon. l.eil<kr of the Opposit ion (Mr. Clu k) «ool: tbe higbrood appro:~ch to cbjs debate wboo he addressed the 1-llltMc: la~l Frid:ty. f·f i~ C(lntmwt$ :md ub1-ervltliQn$ we"' <:Om • pclline. ma4c 1t.e more so by his stated inlention to refrain fronl politkall) ' l.!lspi.red rhetoric. TIIat speec-h had a q uttlity u.OO depth bcfit ing ll. n:uk>n;al lt:u.l<lr 11.$ he b y bcf~.>r-e the l•lou~c and t he nation tbe is~u~ and t.he position of thjs party on some of th~ unreooh'td itritartts to d<lfnl:stie peace-snd unhy.

h is 1)()S.S;ibl~ that I will 'o\':'Wd<'T fnlm the· histtrood example. of my l~d(t. Yw Ke. l am an angry and n« w )vuns m,Jn. I tun sngry about wt•at this 3tld pteviuu$ Liber31 adminlSctr.l· t i<Jns 1\;!ve done to Qur n~tttc.>n, llbwl wh:u they ll.ave dc)ne and what they arc $till anempting to do. I am not alooe in my r~'1C'I'Itmcrtt. I wo\lld thirll: tbil t Jll:,'tr in th~ life of tJ11!~ rl:lliotl h.J~ t here bcc.n such ,,,.idcspreud aDd j~;~stiJic<l vnrest.

We h:n•e ~en the un)!er of the nnlh'C pcnpks of Cun.adu 11nd <he anger of the •on1cn cf Cansda. h is OOpcd that tbc oonnituli.:tn.o'll anw:,\dnients iln.nounc~o'CI by the Minls.tcr of Jus­tice (Mr. Chritien) ~·m ba"e J004hcd chose u.ng<:l'$ 11nd will provid< Ote framew.:~rk uodcr .,.,hich fair and equita ble rc.wlu· tio.as ~n be acJlie~~.

Tlli.s wool~ be Otlr wish, p.'lttlcul.arly for tltt :tbo.lrigiual P«~PI~ e>f Cu~U~d;a . I, like al.l Member$ or Pu linmcnt, h;avc reoeivod lcnets and p«.sonal teprc~matiOO$ from n.atjvc Jll.'()ple expressing t b~ir n:stntmcnt or, ,u the tribal dlr«lor of the Shus~p nu cion tribal eouocil put it appsoptiately: "I wi$h to oorw~y my dislte:'tttencd ftttings." Oaw: letter Cllpccially s rippcd me. 11 W:t$ f rom lhe Nicol\1. Vulh:y ll)dia n fcJk>w~hip. 3 ,eroup trying tO imprO\'C the educational $hliU$ or ..:hildren ~·it bin theis care.

!hrney Sh.1ck.clly, the PMIQr, wrQie in J)llfl as f<MI<.ri''S: All we M) i, t fo•l )'1111 llfld )VIIf PUW df•l j_.ly "ill! th~ -~lkd -

C'OilS1ilutiorl lll!d b.: o11tmf111 111110 llloe M I.W PN~< !)(' Qolf b.IWL $(Kblt«l CtiiWIII. S!~tftlybi. C M>t. ll«mty Sh..:l:d!y, P»tc.r.

• ( t i'SO'

I uus-t tbat this I.XIt!Stltutio.ual t~niti\ln of aboriginal nj;.b iS V.'ilJ m.tltk. lbc pOint rn~m ~·hiclt M live poop!c <:au besin eo foci they o_~ beinJ ju$-dy treat«!. but that it will abo trul!k lhe point at whic-h nati~e- pcopile will feel fuJI pa.rtrters in Mo."'i~ty, t C'CI."ivin& du~- rt:~o'<lgni t ion ~nd-1 think dais is i(npVr• cant-aooepting a full position in the creative responsibility toward dc:~'tlopmcnt of tbe toul Canadian sockty. being prc­p.~rcd 11) li\ 'o! within the rule,s o( wciety v.·hich :llttmpl$ to

produce the fairness and! justice for all which nath-c people J-.wc foond I3C'-I:ing tC.d.'l t .. · :.

11 i~ .A l>i tunti<,~n wbicb P~rliaro<:nt ul)d tbe prU"rinchal leglda­ltlte> are now auempting to redress. h ~'OOJd be tragic i.ndood if friction such as Mw cxis.t~ lil •nobile hOilW: pdrlcl on dac West IJ.ank lndi \f,n Reserve were .;,Jt.owed to cre<tte bJQtb &e tc't th~ gro-wing spirit of goodwill and .Sllppotli\'e fa,wr betwccn aboc'iginal a1ld other Co<tn:tdi':ws. Hopeful!)' this will receive impdu<S from the suppcnci~ word<S a.l)d actioos or all membtn. of the Holl$C,

Tbt Rigln Hoo. leader o( the Oppo:sitioo in hiJ $pecch eo chc H<1uk last Friday put out patty's po.;ition oo aboriginal rights in tbt proper perspeccive when he Jaid: , •• lk il<i$ii!Ul pto:>pk wtt~ · - bttor~ (Jilt dYilufit.ol, 0\lr l>'l~t!IICIII.. Off ~jiK, 1\"oUII Ct (lii ii!,C!IIIIr Chcm, 1114 intr"*'ll~t~i@llkln. A{lll41tnio!bh«J h.

v.'r ~~~not ttWUt llbt..,y. btt • t ""'" lab .-t 9f il. A .u..-...."' ~P ... m be r(or lliol: P.ttliilma~t 111 Jllll ra a doo:~ml!nl 1A>~t ck3 ,.;111 th~ ricllu <JI "'"' ~· 1111d ~q lf(tllll•ledll: 111 ~uu tlot '*"itlolar t(t)lu of 0110r l'lnt prop;ae 10 duw 1htir lif.c and thrir Ctl.ltllrtfrom •hll •l mMt.:ooor ltad.

NO'!'' we stiiJ have witb U\S the anger of tlte ttrritorial go'ien'ltl'IC:tlt focusin.g oo constitutional prc.wisioC» which ~re seen 111 Ien in& them YulnerabJc tc. the ambitioos of other jtlrisd~ioM and wbieh fail to uddrc$$ their :aspirations t() dev·dop into full putnttsbip arran~rnent.s. This u.lw mtaSt be­addre~ b)' the Oovemmentll ()/'Ca nada under tbe aot.hodty M~P-' vested in the Consti tution of our ~Uon to produce t:hllnt,e~ arMS imprm·tn.cnu in Caoada tbrou8b tbc proc:css of f)(:.gociu tion, cuJTt,promi5<: .1nd n:cooc:iliation, tccogni~int, al~osys tbe unique political situation oc:wpicd by the Yal>ll.l.te.l M nor1hcru Caniub.

We see chc anger ()f lubour 11$ e:cp~ in thdr 1n2rc:-h Otl P..1.rliarnent Hfll last S1turday. We have Jeen tbt anJer of Canadia ns who nrc ~ins hQmeil a11d bau.inessCll b«ause of higb interest ratCll. We have seen the: ;ul!(r Ill western C:1nadi· an$ t.ake ronn ln W~tfed atld other scp.uatb""mocivalc:d «pni:lati()Jls, This U a n .1nsry, re.~~o·ntful m'tl:ion. and tbt \'try people who fonncd the Go~nmen1 c.>f Can:1d.1. w-h~ :are tbc r(XI( cnu9e Q(' the eo()nomic tni~hitf tbat befalls Canada. had the c:lfrootery in Oct~.>bcr, 1?80. and thr<ltlgh the ll'lOOtJt~ o( oonsti tutiooa.l debate to Sll)' t() t he nntion. ''luak, Can:·tdil, ••e nlone have the: knowledge. or v.•b:~ t is cood for )'OU. We alone p.mess eonstitutiorn~l .,.·i~. Prernit rt are tillWb e. libt:NII Membe-rs of Parliament are omni.potcnt, In Can:1cb'J. interc.stll "'C .are s~.>Jns: it :tlo1:1e." ·rh is wa~ the message thal Ubetal fofl)' dcli\'tted to the lliiion in Ot:cobt:r, 1980. What pompos.ity fro1n 3 &0\'crnmc:t~t which h3s brought cooof>mic: disalfter to $0

moany! The an.ger of whic.h I spoi;e w<~s rcOoc:ttd In C4Rivtr."'tkwa ~

with my C<W'!Stltuo:nts lan wockeald in Okanagan.$imilkflm"ll, Everywllefe I went, the 11:tme WiiS true. BtUiness~uc:n, bOil)(: ov.·ncr.s.. in~'eSiors wue burt, fruJ'rotcd a nd inercdukm.t that tfi~:utenl hkt this oould h3ppc:n to them in Canada.

How ..-..n t hc: &O''Crtlment fu cc the ptople .,..itb :tn attitude of ton~titutiona l superiority v.•ben it.s dircctfl.>n f~ Canada ~,n·er the p;t\St dc<:.1de r" w :d.s a n.'OOtd of eoonomM: failure1 Tbe road to scx:iallzin.e C1n<1dll •·ith ever•increasing go)vernmt nt in.ttr• rcretlcc in t bc toot~omic life of tbe nutiooand in the< indh·idua l lives I)( C 1n<1dl:tns wiU t() have its great qu:ancum forward leap through 1he Prime Mini~ter's cr-·n perSu~lly ooncelvc:d consti· tuti-on. Thank God thiSo \10'8S at least p,lt ti:ally forc:stulled.

On JtJ n~J.nry 20, 1~8 1 , Jlt the nr<!ltti.n..g. of t.be oonstitutiooal oommittc:e. the hon. member (or Pt~.n~ndu::r (Mr. Epp), in pre~nting our party's ptoposcd amendment to a bid e<WCrn­ment inili:uive, ,,aMI tbt:: rollowiug:

Mt. C haite)ll. lll prcttoallflS 011r JW"CI<;omd •mftodll!~l!lll' t o :"l lt'f'Ctnmt~~t•J ~ .. ~~ Oloo, ,..., do Ul in lilt .1Ju),.lfll3•H-b;u ft b 111-e f<.lpwbr •ill o( OanMii.l ~s •hot (lilt Colll'tit-.tioll fC:II in thi• Cl)11ntry. tt i~ tf,u, lht f!'Oilllll l .,.,. t hu "Wie luve •

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(h)uec of RiJf,lu 11nd Fu~oms ff)f lhe C.a!MIIta pc.>p~ ~mbrodfd In tilt. c~~~~•ion.

T k ""'*~·.,.. C.,....v~\;., hr17'.s ~illon in tllt<>f maum Nlloxl• 1.h Nl'.lh!r will f .. ~ 1o> Cl!hl.-tt 0111 ~ i$ ~ M IJooe S~ !f~4id•~M o( 0111' jljltl)'. l! "~~' !hb ~tl), llorU"6)\th: ol$il)n tnol fcackr.ohipel 1111: Ri$)1 Ho>ot. J11tuo o;.r~n~•er-. • hi<h P'~ C,n*ns tl!t<ir fim !till or Riattu. Tilt. 6il of lt.ialn' a-t\f\'l'Uio. to the tuu <ill-a~ship Q"*M d~td.. I'Oo lo)IC« WO: If they IOP~IIa!N <:.udU~ts. T!~ ,_,t;~l\1} MOio/11 owr l ho: n1ti10a " U CI.p'$td. 11o ~ fi mily"'A' f'O.\otlni~td ;t) t k W t t)CfMOI!C (!( IJIIf ~~if'Y, Tbf rijtlol ~ u .. n I'I'IWOUI pi'QP(tl)', 1»dt11n denied in Olllllr C«~ntri~ ".llllllltntn• t<.'lld n-prl..:irks ut-,.,id 1<>11,'1: d l :tnoauluo- -111 the ~'"'"'' relit 1111 that fo~r.Uitoon.

The hon. tllctnber we11t on to :l:ly: , • , ,.-~ IIA•~ !ISt('aed \0 CA11•<IiAo"-. 1116 bdiew ""'- f11w :of~ li\l~n<1l I!) ""'· b~Oiel' -. bl'!th .s~ 011 '"'' ••Ilk, I b.rlic•v the-~ ol w1 su~iol' will,..."" rn~~n <u..,.iuu i(IOI1!1 dl- 1nd d~~n~IIS natlond dtv'- .

1t i); unfonun.11~ that il took a SUJI(tme Court decision plus the- outcry or t he po;:ople. plus tJte coucttltr:utd drort or tbe ollidal oppoe~hlon in lhe I lou;se and i:n the Seoa~t to ~ause the Prime Minisler (Mr. Trudeau) and the liberal members opposite to abandon the-Ir unit:Htrallst l'(lk: in t he matter of 1be Can:~dian Con.1tiwtion.

Western Can:·tdian$ in particular were iDten$Cd by an amcndirt! rormula ""''hieb "''OOld h 8\'C enueoched second and th ird -·d3~ StoHuS upon thi: pi'O\'iltCd in whi<-•h thC)' hold tili~tn~hlp. n dtjz,crufaip whidl the)' hold dear, ju.st a.s the)' bold dear lbc:ir allcgi.anoe 10 Canada.

In the F<:bru~ry, 19SJ~ iSS-Ue or Tit~ ht$bymtan Rm:N'd. Llo)'d RobertsOn. who is anchtnman Ott ebe CTV dev~ <f d od: nc-•·scast, wr<JCe "" url:ide entitled ··v~.,.,·ina the We~;t-. In part. this iJ; wbat he wroce:

AI t iru- tifn~ in \k IOt'll. (IIIC r~J/t)' ll<a'wll$cl. ~~~ O:l>trt.. In ~pile d !.le 'u~m ..-ok« d the ~~ lolokrt., tl o: "~" mlji.BI)' yr ,.n.k.,,.n I K C.•lldU"~ r.~. Tbo:y :ore <t~ll vcol) ~'' llflf"l.ti'-'tjo;, Tky willtctl l'"' Kl)(lll<'dlt tiiU dl tl!q WU( is ~ (lir dtlll. lt " ill Ub o !Ofll, ti!M ud IIUICb IIIOrf 4!~alll-"'- 10 «Ins 111c m•}otit,• dok to 1~ bred&@. pili"' M .wpt.rilli>lo. N'o:ttnbc:lcu doe: .. w~ d dio.»nu:n~ t•c olo<K. T ky ,..., he ~~~ fW'.JY by ""11-<~•ndi,t, ("'~p and aood old ClMdiu ~miK.

So wrote Lloyd Rolxri.soo in February. 1981 . 11unrutlt ~Jf Mr. Robt:rUQfl·$ conv«:tion th,ll the mu.Pity of

weslernm ure Canadians fit'St is evidenced by the: &OCOC'd reached in whieh premie-rs from the .,.·est, th~ oentrt and t.he Allunti<: pu1 t he inlat:>ts or C•nado, befOft n.;1 rrow provinci.1l ambitiOJ\i, w~ applaud that spiri t or compromise and ao;:com· modadon which n-suhed in 11\.c- re~u1W>n which is the subjtcl of <tur de~te i_n the: tlo~o~sc tod~y.

I ~m proud lh:tl the Premkr of Uri ti~;!1 Cotuml.>il& played .such 11. d istinsuished role in produ~ing the d imate in ..,.·hioh COII'lptOnli.se 'lo'SS possible. ..

On FtbruSr)' 9, 1 ~8 1 , S$ :1 m~:mbtr ()I the cuus.titutionSI oommiuce meceins in room 200 or the: W~t 9)o.;k, I bad the opportunity to speak oo behalf or the COJl$tituents I tcPfCSC:IU :11~ the patty 10 which I tlln proud to belong. A t tlt:at time I $Jid in p;trl:

1'k <'A.J•titulion of C.11aclu~!d b!' i" ,._, y nm11t bt a unif r-•· .,Hri111. do.ument ,,,~b l!flolllld r.ise • 1111 Ca!la6.>M lilt raulo!l or puriCl!lt ltn'OIII! and I IIM "~!ltd 1./l;l l lloo~ mll'l 'ijnitit.olll ~~li/111 ill IIIo: \i'uory <>I (;IO!uol,'t

Tlrr Con.rtitutiQff htUio- $b:lotld ~ 1M l1111:rumo:n1 t.y 10111(11 du;oxd ,.,., ~ml i~ f•,.,"ffloW u d lntc.:ltotd iiCIOU CAn•® .

I 'll.'eot 00 to say: 11 011. _.ilh : .. ,.-~""'""$:lad l 41:~ !)( d«p;ilr, I ~I U ) , t hU l ol'lu.l\ tdl

f\111 U•,U wh:.t )I~ boo;n dQnc, •t4 m(IJ' Qp<Ci>OIIy t ho: 'W'A'! it lc:IJ iooou ~"- ; , touJb·unK(~bl~

The: annuuncemeul that the. f1r.st minist~s ol Canada bad r<:aebed 110 accord -..·o.s a miJeston<: in Cal\lld in_n hi);t~,>ry which brought fortb a great sig.h or reli~r rro.-n C4;nadian~ From c.:oast to coast. The m(M't recent relincmcnlS ~nd :uSdilion:s to t hat acxoi-d can only inuease tbt Je\'tl of sntisra~ion. I I\IIY<: $har<:d i11 th.st inunedl.ale reaction. not because. ¥th.tt wa~ created by the Prime Minister a nd IIM: pn:mier$ '<''aS pc-r(ect: quite lht: contrary. there arc many Canadians, mysdr included, who baw \ 't ty &t3ve resen•111lons about this resolutiOil. Those reset· V<J-Iions <:.Xt<:OO far beyood the proct$$ tmplo)'cd by the SOYtrn• mene in its headlong reac-h ror constitutlooal chan~. "''ith all the. rniwy implk:ttll)n.'l t<w cbiw&,e tC) t he \'t ty eMmtter of Canad.o j tselr. These rcsuvu.tions ellteQd indeed to II'H:: OC)lltcnt itself.

I c.a.n dq no better th~.n tO refer euch hon. me-mber here- to tbe speeo;:h in the House yesterday by the boo. memb« for S:tdo:aeooa Wett (Mr. Hn:uyshyo), • ·bost. (a«ual and 00t'l1pre­h<:l\$ive review of the re:solution $.hould be compuJrocy ~t.ding fot all boil. me-mbers. most spc:cifl~aJiy those bon. members op~ltc whose eupftoric destriptkl«l of tht Chart« of Rights aDd Freedom~ and "''bat it ofTen: w C..mtdia ns is txl5ed (}In a distortion or the present reality in Qnadll witb reaard to IOOividual ,/&hu a nd (rcedomS. No OOU11U)' h3s a bcner rtootd or rc:speet roe the individual than h.1s o~o~r C~&n:t d<l~ My an;1Jy.fit> is tl~;t~l tbe. chaner maii'IJ)' ll'l:ltk.s a new da)' ror riJhts in Can;ad:J to 1bc-ex lent 1h111 the eh.artet's provi~ions put into tlte b~~nds or the eotms~ rather t!Nn the c:lcc:ted ltsi:llaturc~to. &Jte ruture:. dlh:ctioo of soci:tl poticies in C-anada. The hon. m<mber rur $a$k;ttoon WC$t utd l<t$1 nit}lt.:

We ... at ,;oo,, tu!i~.~: tiiAI llte O.'Mpo.sii>Otl ol thuo• ru and tbc roolitinltnd ..:.:Ut bclio:r. ut 1111• j ....... ~11 k "" n:tttmdy import:tnl f~CI(Jr ill lilt d(t.c rmill':'lion 11f tilt> riV,u ~~~ pKr~i\11$ ol ;:ili:l-~n• .. d in illt,.!iilllli ill the cotonlry. t!ldttd. thc: ~otr d apJ'IliniiJI~t ~ ju~ rrom time: 10 time: will bliu( iollmtn~< 01!1\f')tta...:-e ;,. tk .. !tinutt <Settnulnltlon and iro~trS!f!IU!iOit of (u d .. ,...,,,.1 riJhh i .. c .... ~.

I concur in that fully. With the end of ehe. oonstltuelonal conrusion 1)0\PJ in &iglu.

wber<: do '<''t 011 a o,atioll go fr<.tm here? We haYe le) be optitnist.ic. We hal't very mu~b going ror us. W<: ba,·e to be opelmiuio;: because:. we ~·ill ha~t· a Ca.~adiatt Constitution rcsj. dCJII in Canada with an amet!ding ronnub which rtto&ni7):.S t he reality of Canada and tCSp«iS the role of the pro'l'inoes in t he O()mp!)$itioo of our nation. We bii\'C to be optimistic bc:caus.t we luwt an am<:Miing rormul., which will preclude I be t)'pe. of arbitrary tllange ,.,bieh so teQCntly threatened nalioiHIJ unity and eompb8urc--.

I b ow that time~ mO'Iing rasl tJDd t hat I b:t \>c: only :1 rew minutes l~ft . L-et •ne just say in ciOiing tbat .1n hour ago "''~ o!fcr<:d 10 \'Oit: on 1he ll\lb;tmendmb tl, and l SUlgCSt that '<''f: move. to that voce immediately.

13292 COMMONS DEBATES No..,M'!b« 25, 1981

Tltl' Cmr.uiluti(HI

Mr. Nielt~«<! Mr. Spc3ker, I rise on a point of ordet. Once again I make thlc ume offer to ollt.he l'<~te an the $ub;:smend· ml:nl noQw .

Mr. Dfus: Mr. Spc;lkct, I w;U prepared to ha~ the V(Jte: c:~lled 40 minute~ ago.

Some IK$. M('di«S: Ob, oh!

The Acti•tt Spukclr (Mr. Sbltn): Is t he House ready for tbe q uC$tioo1

So•.e ho•. Met:~tkr'$! Question.

Tt.e Actlnc Spoeaker (Mr. Blahr): The qu~jon it~ on tbe amendment to tbe amendment mO'Io"'Cd by the bon. member for Skoclltl (Mr. Ful ton). Is it the. plea.wre. af the HoUJe tO adopt the .w bsrne~tdtnent?

Some OOo. Me~ Agreed.

Sc.lme hQtl. Mcmkfs: No.

i•e AttJifl ~·'"" (Mr. 81•ker)~ AIJ tbocse in fa,·oor of lbe ~\Jb:emendmcnt will pkasc tay yea.

So•~ ho1t. Mem.boenc: Ye:e.!

1'he Aetlng S,caker (Mr. Blaktr): AJI those oppMtd .-ill please say nay.

Sc.l..c ho11. Mr-mb«s: Nuy!

n e At'li• ll Speaker (Mr. Bbker): In my opinion. t he na)'S ~ave i l.

Ami 'IN)Nf thmvji~'C ~Mmbe,s htn•lll.f rlte11:

Tlw Attl"C:Sf>nter (Mr. Blaker): (.'all in the membel'$. The House d.ivided on tl)c t~ubumendmcnt (Mr. Fulton)

whM:h w:u: nq:aci:ved on the foUowing division:

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AUm"" AhluPt ....... ~h ....... '"""""'"' llltllio B,....tc• e.,.e .. .... ~ ... .... ~

(DMsiOn No. I 26)

.,. ... ""' -hij~tf

)'EAS

1c¥oe:o(M,.) kto:tc< ...... ,, Mdlo4 Millor Mht hdl

(Mrt,)

....... ·~·· ((;•.,... floill•illlflf)

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( ... mt~l ·­.._. Sl:d!t ··­YOI;Itl-»-

...... ·-· . ... '""m =; .. ..,_ """''' *""' .. 11.1 ....... ........ ....... M;Mtb., ·­(~.·-·..s-~1 ·-(Kuoiii<N e>• l ....... ~. Oullel h,.....i

"~' .... ~ ....... ... ~ ..... ~>H .. -.... ........ ................... ....

( SI. (".-!,..,.;0<111)

• •• • .: ....... -...., !(;-) ..... ·­(~l..ol..o>l»<d .... lt(Jo~jl

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~~icnwio-Holiturlii>OI) Sill-.. s; • ...,. .. Sfi'Jo)l Soc>u.o 'faodil T~JI¥ T-tt T ..... , fot,j, "T~ .. .,, "T•rat• 'loik!Ot: ··* w-.ol!lf•.uol ..... W"PI v ... ~-l:o9,

MINb.m Spti.kef: The amcMment to tbe: amendment rs. ddcatcd. Motion (Mr. Fultoo) nccati\-ed,

( 1i"oll.f14Jtiqn) Mr. ~r.;tien: t\bd:am Speaker, J bcllt:ve t.h~re is agreement

an1<1ng the 93rtl~. In the Fre:nd' vet~ion of the amendment 1he Min.istct of Indian Affairs and Northec-n Development (Mr. M lulto) lllO\'ed fC$ltrday, the word -rcx:onnu.s·· ""'i1S omitted in Section 35( I). Only tbe 'llo'Qrd .. CQnflrmC$~ appeared. By Ul\flnimous eonS<:nt of t he lloo\ie, we-8hould like 1be word "reoonnus- lobe q,ddc:d to the Prench text. :'l.t line 3' ofSectic)n JS(I).

.. COMMONS DEBATES l329l

Mr. Nld~rt: Madam Spi:"~ktr, w~ :l.{!.n:o: ..

Mr. Oean11: We al~o ag~e, MOldll.m S~1kcr.

M•l~t• Stte•ker. 1r ~eryone agrees. it i$ so Qf'ducd,

Thff Con~titulion

h being six o'clock. 1 do now lc:.tve the <:hair until tomorro""'' at 2 p.m .. pursuant to Standing Order 2.(1),

At 6 .26 p.m. tllc HQU$C adjuurncd, withCiut q uestion put. pur.,u:ent t()SUnding Order.