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Advanced AviosTim Lai
Points to be Made www.pointstobemade.com
Photo © Kevin Marshall
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Total beginners
Basic BAEC knowledge
Advanced knowledge
Opening Survey
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Hopefully everyone learns something today!
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Explanation of Tier Point system
Collecting Tier Points
Use of Avios on British Airways
Other uses◦ LHR-DME in First Class◦ CX around Asia
What Anders covered yesterday
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“Give a man a fish, feed him for a day…Teach the man to fish, feed him for a lifetime”
You get some fish, but also learn how to do it!
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Advanced Tier Point running (20 mins)
Taxes, Fees and Surcharges (15 mins)
Maximum Permissible Mileage (5-10 mins)
Free form discussion (15 mins)
Feel free to ask questions any time!
Contents
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Relies on combination of “Instant Upgrade” and cheap business class fares.
ALWAYS consider auxiliary cost.◦ Hotels/accommodation◦ Food◦ Opportunity cost – annual leave, time with family.
Keep referring to Flyertalk. ◦ Bit.ly/BATPruns
Advanced Tier Point Running
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4 key regions for TP running
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American Airlines and US Airways
Best origins are big cities that aren’t hubs, but close to one.◦ [ Removed. For participants only ]
Best destinations to look for… Anywhere with bad safety!: ◦ [ Removed. For participants only ]
TP running – Americas
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If East to West coast (and v.v.), ignore flights stopping in DFW.
VERY short Minimum Connection Time◦ AA does not have to give you First Class if re-
booked.◦ You can request fares and Tier Points from original
routing though!
What to watch out for
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2000+ miles routes ex-DFW
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2000+ miles routes ex-JFK
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American Airlines main hubs◦ DFW, LAX, JFK, MIA, ORD
And so on!
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US Airways main hubs◦ CLT, PHX, PHL
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Buy during Premium Fare sales ex-Europe (Easily 1000+ TP for around €1500-2000).◦ Ask Kevin about his DUB-LCY-SNN-JFK-PHX-HNL-PHX-
JFK-LCY-DUB adventure. 1340TP for £1368 = £1.02/TP.
Find your itinerary on ITA Matrix and book by phone. You’ll go crazy booking it online.
Watch out for AA/BA/IB/AY/US codeshares on domestic USA flights. VERY important to put it into AA/US marketed flight.
Top Tips
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Prices more stable and easier to find than Americas
Cathay Pacific◦ [ Removed. For participants only ]
Malaysia Airlines – Kuala Lumpur◦ [ Removed. For participants only ]
TP Running – Asia
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CX/MH business class service is FAR superior to AA/US.
Each destination in Asia is interesting in its own right. Can’t say the same about USA.
Why Asia over Americas?
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◦ [ Removed. For participants only ]
Malaysia Airlines
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Most TP Runs in Europe go through LGW, and often through JER.◦ JER-LGW-AMS-LGW-JER◦ JER-LGW-MLA-LGW-JER◦ AMS-LGW-AMS
Airports like JER, AMS and FRA do not separate inbound and outbound passengers at gate. Very easy turnaround
TP Running - Europe
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Not as lucrative as America, Asia and Europe.
British Airways 5th Freedom DOH – BAH in First class
Qatar Airways◦ [ Removed. For participants only ]
TP Running – Middle East
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Next topic…
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Anywhere between 5-99% of the airfare!
Most people call YQ or YR “Fuel Surcharge”, but it’s called “Carrier Imposed Fee” by BA.
You have to pay them if redeeming Avios.◦ Some notable exceptions…
Taxes, Fees and Surcharges
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Intra-Americas journeys◦ New York to Toronto◦ Any flight under 650 miles.
Intra-Asia◦ HKG to most of Far East Asia is max 10,000 Avios each way in Y.
Domestic Japan◦ No Taxes!!!
Free positioning flight to Jersey, UK◦ No Air Passenger Duty payable ex-JER
Aer Lingus and Air Berlin for TATL◦ AB is £1 in tax!
Air Berlin for Germany -> Abu Dhabi
Good uses of Avios
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Raised by price of fuel, hardly ever lowered.
Still some regions or cities where YQ is low
Fuel Surcharges
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No specific pattern, but in general…
Europe <-> North America◦ AB and EI ◦ IB no surcharge! Transfer BA Avios to IB.
Europe <-> South America ◦ IB no surcharge! Transfer BA Avios to IB.
North America <-> South America◦ No YQ
Redeeming Avios - Low YQ
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Europe <-> AsiaMH, CX, QR usually lower than BA
Intra - Middle East ◦ Nearly all routes low YQ (under €100 for r/t)
Europe <-> Middle East ◦ QR and BA usually lowest
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Next topic…
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In a nutshell, how far you’re allowed to fly on a single ticket.
MPM exists because not everywhere has non-stop flights between 2 cities.
Easy to understand and exploit.
Good place to start “travel hacking”.
Maximum Permissible Mileage
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Economy class sales!◦ Typically base fare is <€100. I have seen £1
before!
◦ MPM does not affect YQ, but might add extra government/airport charges.
◦ Best to do as many transfers in USA as possible.
◦ Limit EU transfers. (Taxes too high)
When to exploit MPM?
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Find the routing rule of your fare
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Ticketed Point Mileage = Great Circle distance between two cities.
E.g. AMS-SFO 5473 miles
Calculating TPM
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Maximum Permissible Mileage = TPM + 20%.
MPM of AMS-SFO = 5473 x 1.2 = 6568.
IB/BA/AA/US/AY Europe <-> USA flights governed by MPM Rules.
Use KVS tool or Expert Flyer to find routing rules
Calculating MPM
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MPM of AMS-SFO = 6568 MPM+5% = 6896 MPM+10% = 7225 MPM+15% = 7553 MPM+20% = 7881 MPM+25% = 8210
Just pay additional X% to the BASE FARE E.g. if Base Fare is £50, and you fly
MPM+25%, you pay an extra 0.25*£50 = £12.5
You can extend MPM up to 25%
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Total 8085 miles <1.25*MPM Valid routing!
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