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Originally Posted by ivy

majority of the alleged conflict of interest is nothing more thanpersonal perceptions or biases. Friedman writes an article thatsays the selling price was $75 Million. There's a talk aboutcorrecting that info. TII is sold for $60 Million.

One person can look to this information and think "Friedmanwas wrong, he made up that number, who is his source, howwould he know for sure"

Another person can look to it and say "Evil Branca! Why did itsell it to $60M, he could have gotten $75M"

I think Bubs wrote several days ago, if you start with wantingto find a conspiracy or problem in something, you probably


1) the " this is it " cut price is about Sony showing to branca being afraid ofthe increase in price . Sony was even afraid that that was a move frombranca to bring the price up! What branca did about it?

Nothing , Branca did not go demanding a higher selling price, he insteadmade phone calls to shut up what was said in the media and went forsony's price...

We have documents that show how much little Sony have paid comparedto how much big $$ sony have made off that small investment !!

Sony is still thanking Branca for it !!

to find a conspiracy or problem in something, you probablywould. even if it means interpreting stuff to fit your way ofthinking.

he doesn't make 10% from Estate. It was 10% for bothexecutors - 5% each and later raised to about 7% each. We alsoknow what he makes as an executor from the accountingdocuments. At 3rd accounting Total Co-executive & creativedirector compensation was $4,454,011. That means Brancamade 2.2 Million - a lot more than what Sony would pay.

(per email sony would pay him $2.25M in 3 years, Brancaearns that amount from Estate in a single year)


2) We are comparing the money that John Branca 's firms makes byrepresenting sony's business not related to mj , while using MJ as leverage,cutting prices for sony's interests over mJ 's related "deals", for keepingSony close and increase his own personal business with sony!

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Originally Posted by Autumn II

I stand corrected (about percentage for executors). The factdoes remain, Branca makes MUCH more as executor of theEstate than he will from Sony. His salary for consulting mayseem like a lot, but for a high-powered entertainment attorney-- it's really not. Plus, it is a fixed salary, while his percentagefrom the Estate depends on performance.

It's commonly known that R.F. is a tabloid hack. There is noway to know what is factual and what is not (even a stoppedclock is right, twice a day.)

Right. The pricing of TII and the "been there/done that" issue ofthe will, have nothing to do with the thread topic, which isBranca's "side-gig." From reading the emails (from the links),this seems to be an internal conundrum within Sony. In anycorporation there is vying for power among multiple CEOs,and that is what this seems to be. In the end, the primary goal


1) the " this is it " cut price is about Sony showing to branca being afraid ofthe increase in price . Sony was even afraid that that was a move frombranca to bring the price up! What branca did about it?

Nothing , Branca did not go demanding a higher selling price, he insteadmade phone calls to shut up what was said in the media and went forsony's price...

We have documents that show how much little Sony have paid comparedto how much big $$ sony have made off that small investment !!

Sony is still thanking Branca for it !!

2) We are comparing the money that John Branca 's firms makes byrepresenting sony's business not related to mj , while using MJ as leverage,cutting prices for sony's interests over mJ 's related "deals", for keepingSony close and increase his own personal business with sony!

3 ) the primary goal of an estate is to make beneficiaries of the estate thereal beneficiaries and not to make corporations the beneficiaries with alawyers / executor that is interested in corporations ' benfits and his ownbenefits over the one of the beneficiaries .

and that is what this seems to be. In the end, the primary goalof ANY corporation is to make money. The primary goal of themanaging of the Estate is to MAKE MONEY. There has been nofactual material yet presented here that points to a conflict ofinterest between the management of the Estate, andconsulting work for Sony.


This is what is rotten and it is what MJ was talking about when speaking upabout his exploitation by the hand of sony and branca close to sony!

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Today, 04:59 PM


Who is this person that drafted the will that you are claiming MJ left the willto , the Will That was not found in MJ's hand and that MJ demanded backand thought non existent ?

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Originally Posted by Bubs

Why don't you take a phone call to Branca and ask himyourself?You must love Branca so much because his name is in everysingle sentence

Btw, MJ left his will to person who drafted it in the first place,that is the reason Branca couldn't give it back because hedidn't have it beginning with. I believe that one goes way overyour head, but thats ok:-)


Today, 05:32 PM


Hopefully, putting to rest the discussions of the will (again). Doesn't matter,really, who drafted it. There were FOUR wills, sequentially, as they wereupdated. The wills were virtually identical, except the names of theexecutors changed. Except for ONE. Branca was an executor of ALL four. Soeven if the most recent will was declared invalid, that would have revertedto the next most recent will -- which was almost entirely identical. And allthe way back to the first will. All were structured the same, with the JacksonFamily Trust, the percentage to charity, the percentage to the children, andfunds for Katherine for the rest of her natural life. Upon her death, herfunds reverted back to the children. In none of these wills did the siblingsget anything, nor did Joseph get anything. In all four versions, Branca wasan executor. Moving right along.

http://www.forbes.com/sites/zackomal...jacksons-will/

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Really? Are u posting an article from Zach Greenburg, John branca 's

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Hopefully, putting to rest the discussions of the will (again).Doesn't matter, really, who drafted it. There were FOUR wills,sequentially, as they were updated. The wills were virtuallyidentical, except the names of the executors changed. Exceptfor ONE. Branca was an executor of ALL four. So even if themost recent will was declared invalid, that would havereverted to the next most recent will -- which was almostentirely identical. And all the way back to the first will. All werestructured the same, with the Jackson Family Trust, thepercentage to charity, the percentage to the children, andfunds for Katherine for the rest of her natural life. Upon herdeath, her funds reverted back to the children. In none ofthese wills did the siblings get anything, nor did Joseph getanything. In all four versions, Branca was an executor. Movingright along.

http://www.forbes.com/sites/zackomal...jacksons-will/


Really? Are u posting an article from Zach Greenburg, John branca 'spersonal writer at Forbes , to whom John branca have organized a party?

4 wills?

MJ had none of these 4 wills in his hands .

Who has/kept these 4 wills?

What happened between branca and MJ between the year of these "alleged"wills and 2009 , the day MJ died?

We have 2 firing letters for branca and no retiring letter, and a dead MJ withno Will in his possession

Today, 05:56 PM


The Branca wasn't rehired meme. Same font, yip.

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eventually people - or allow me to say most people- realize how moot someof these discussions are. Time to challenge a will was 120 days, it's over.Katherine were given the opportunity to challenge the executors, shedropped it. So whether the fans like it or not, whether they agree with it ornot, the will is legally the valid will.

Same situation applies to majority of the discussion here. For a minute let'ssay there's a conflict of interest, are beneficiaries doing anything about it?No? Then you are left with the same situation, regardless of what/how fansfeel about it, nothing will happen.

I appreciate the information, discussion is also good up to point. But like Isaid there comes a point when you ask yourself how am I spending mytime, how am I wasting my effort. 6 yrs later, when that will has beenlegally determined to be valid, when that will cannot be challengedanymore, discussing it's validity is just a bad use of our time.These never

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Moving right along.


anymore, discussing it's validity is just a bad use of our time.These neverending rants, hundreds of posts on the same topic at best an outlet forexpressing a person's frustration, but they don't result in any change. Ibelieve fans could be productive in other regards. but that's me.

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Today, 06:02 PM


The last Will is always the valid one. You can go on and on and on about theWill not being valid, but then there should be a valid one, so where is it?Who has it? Why that person did not submit it to court when Michael died?If Michael did not want this will to be valid all he had to do was to write anew one, which would automatically trump the older will regardless whohas it, regardless of whether it was returned to MJ or not. In case a Will thattrumps the current one is found, it can be challenged and overturned, butuntil then this is nothing but fantasy.

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Today, 06:21 PM


One day that evil John Branca will pay dearly. Until then....

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^^^^me, too

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Today, 06:31 PM


There is no law that forces anyone to have a will. Why MJ should have had a will and trust another person trying to screwhim over writing something convenient for the lawyer that wrote the will?

With no will in MJ's possession , his children would have been his heirs.

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Originally Posted by respect77

The last Will is always the valid one. You can go on and on andon about the Will not being valid, but then there should be avalid one, so where is it? Who has it? Why that person did notsubmit it to court when Michael died? If Michael did not wantthis will to be valid all he had to do was to write a new one,which would automatically trump the older will regardlesswho has it, regardless of whether it was returned to MJ or not.In case a Will that trumps the current one is found, it can bechallenged and overturned, but until then this is nothing butfantasy.


With no will in MJ's possession , his children would have been his heirs.

MJ had no will in his possession of the 4 alleged wills

Today, 06:38 PM


See, this is why we don't take you seriously. Prince, Paris and Blanket AREhis heirs. To claim otherwise is ridiculous.

And let's for a minute imagine a world where the Jacksons had been incharge of the Estate..... Their lack of business acumen is well-documented.

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If you claim he did not agree with the Branca will to be his valid will then allhe had to do was to write a new one. Even if the law does not require youto write a will but if you are rich man and if there is another will out therethat you want to invalidate then the way to do it is to write a new one.Michael certainly was not stupid and knew how it worked. After all healready had at least three previous wills and he understood to update themafter important events such as the birth of his children. You can go on aboutthis as much as you want, but the fact is: there is a valid will and so far noone proved it non-valid.



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There is no law that forces anyone to have a will. Why MJ should have had a will and trust another person tryingto screw him over writing something convenient for the lawyerthat wrote the will?

With no will in MJ's possession , his children would have beenhis heirs.

MJ had no will in his possession of the 4 alleged wills


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Today, 06:48 PM


For the will thing, we went off topic because someone of u mentioned thewill and I followed up on it with my replies

It is obvious that lies and crook behaviours from ppl and corporations thatMJ mistrusted and was vocal about , is none of your concern.

It was MJ's concern to end being screwed by Sony and by Lawyers thatrepresented Sony , going against his interests.

MJ ended in death being owned by a lawyer that represents Sony and that

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MJ ended in death being owned by a lawyer that represents Sony and thatsucked MJ into Sony , against what MJ wanted for himelf.

No old will, written years before and that MJ's mother had to give upcontesting , will change what MJ felt before he died about Sony and thelawyer that represents Sony and what MJ was fighting for and against untilthe day he died. MJ ended up being a sony's toy against his wishes and thatis a fact that no one will ever change.

Today, 06:49 PM


It is customary for a person to keep a will in the care of an attorney, mostusually the attorney who drafted the will. That's where MINE is (paltrythough it may be). In a fire-proof vault in my attorney's office.

Moving right ALONG.

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