The Schützen Rifle Part 2: The U.S.Tradition
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The Schützen Rifle Part 2: The U.S.Tradition Roger Hardy
Slide 1
• Explain Germanic Tongue ‘Schuetzen’ and U.S.A ‘Offhand’. Both terms in U.K.• ‘Offhand’, i.e. not held down by hand or sling.• This type of Shooting traced back to B.P.M/L and military foot soldiers.
Slide 2
• Brief definition of the position, see fig 1.• This is not the sporting or moving target stance.• There is the:
- tuck position- hip Position &- rest position.
• Lean-back ’S’ position & the todger pull.• Advantages of close feet in relation to recoil.• Volunteer from the seats for practical demo.
Slide 3
• Competition history:- 1864 Civil War - the sniping skills- the buffalo hunters- the Indian Wars- the sharpshooter brigades.
• The migration to America:- the starting of the Schuetzenfest comps.
• The first (3 country) international challenge.• Certainly the U.S. and Germany are Schuetzen comp. masters with over 130yrs experience.
Slide 4
• Schuetzenfests, see fig 1a (p2):- all major towns/cities- the King - target- shooting order- course of fire - 2 or 3 days, 100 shots- distances 200 yards- finals on Eagle Target, see fig 2 (p2)- big money to be earned.
The Rifles and Calibres• Percussion wt. 20lbs with .60 cal (15mm)• Gradually down (1860 —> 1910) to metallic cartridge/black or smokeless wt. 11lbs with .
32”(8mm).• Cleaning between shots has ‘stuck’ even today.
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Slide 5
• Types of rifles:- U.S. offhand- U.S. full Schuetzen- Germ. Schuetzen (John Anderson)- Germ.& Europe zimmers-John Anderson.
• Shape of see fig 3• Action (system) types.• Stock shapes.• Buttplates - styles.• Barrel lengths, for balance.• Set triggers.• Palm rests.• Types of sights:
• diopt’ aka creedmoor or tang• globes, pins• tubes• gimbel scopes (dates? U.S. official accpt > 1910).
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Slide 6
• Calibres and cartridges:- sizes, and when, where and how.
• Fixed ammo &/or separated loadings:- M/L continuance - reasons for, see fig.5 - accuracy of, see fig. 6- bullet seaters, see figs. 4b, 4c (p4)- Mechanical seaters, see fig 4(p4)- bullet pushers.
• Loading on range, - everlasting case:- wadding- powders, old and new- FMJ &/or lead.
• World record, see fig. 7 (p4)- became part of precision U.S. Benchers Assoc.
• The modern loading that survived.
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Slide 7
• Targets, see samples on display:- less than one minute of angle bull.
• Scoring Methods:- C to C- strings of shots- mostly ‘normal’
• Note: telescope type is red: separate comps. for telescopes
Slide 8
• Taking up the Schuetzen challenge:- Mr. Pope said….- finding your rifle- making your rifle (conv.)- rarity- suppliers of.
• Alternatives at less expense in .22LR:- 12’s, 12/15s, Vicker’s Emp. Jubi.- how much?
• Cost of running originals or conv. copies.• Sect 58(2) and all that.• The difficult ones.
Slide 9
• Our small club - advert time.• Why so few shooters:
- rifles are collectibles - not elegant and loveable like English R&R- expense- the passion for military - time taken for presentable scores.
• I started in Jan. 1996.• First article in May. 1996• Many ‘have a go’ at Imp. or TM etc.• Where now:
- ASSRA- new collectors club?
• That’s all folks, please see the impressive display AND please ask questions.
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The Schützen Rifle Part 2: The U.S.Tradition Roger Hardy
References1. “They Made the Best Barrels”, by James Serven, Gun Digest 19742. Facsimile of Pope Catalogue, reprinted Gun Digest 19753. “Schuetzenfest, a German-American Tradition”, booklet published by the Museum of Our
National Heritage, Lexington, Mass.
Illustrations referenced in the talk but not appearing on the slides.
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