The Real C.S. Lewis Screwtape Letters, Theological “You’ll never get to the bottom of him.”

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The Real C.S. Lewis Screwtape Letters, Theological “You’ll never get to the bottom of him.” J.R.R. Tolkien Paulo F. Ribeiro MBA, PhD, PE, IEEE Fellow March 14, 2004, AD Grand Rapids LaGrave Avenue Christian Reformed Church

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The Real C.S. Lewis Screwtape Letters, Theological

“You’ll never get to the bottom of him.”

J.R.R. Tolkien

Paulo F. Ribeiro

MBA, PhD, PE, IEEE Fellow

March 14, 2004, ADGrand Rapids

LaGrave Avenue Christian Reformed Church

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I think it important to try to see the present calamity in a true perspective. The war [terrorism] creates no absolutely new situation: it simply aggravates the permanent human situation so that we can no longer ignore it. Human life has always been lived on the edge of a precipice. Human culture has always had to exist under the shadow of something infinitely more important than itself. If men had postponed the search for knowledge and beauty until they were secure, the search would have never begun.

C.S. Lewis, "Learning in War-Time," in The Weight of Glory and Other Addresses

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Mere Christianity - Excerpt from Preface:

I hope no reader will suppose that "mere" Christianity is here put forward as an alternative to the creeds of the existing communions — as if a man could adopt it in preference to Congregationalism or Greek Orthodoxy or anything else.

It is more like a hall out of which doors open into several rooms. If I can bring anyone into that hall, I have done what I attempted. But it is in the rooms, not the hall, that there are fires and chairs and meals. The hall is a place to wait in, a place from which to try the various doors, not a place to live in. For that purpose the worst of the rooms (whichever that may be) is, I think preferable. It is true that some people may find they have to wait in the hall for a considerable time, while others feel certain almost at once which door they must knock at. I do not know why there is this difference, but I am sure God keeps no one waiting unless He sees that it is good for him to wait. When you do get into the room you will find that the long wait has done some kind of good which you would not have had otherwise. But you must regard it as waiting, not as camping. You must keep on praying for light: and, of course, even in the hall, you must begin trying to obey the rules which are common to the whole house. And above all you must be asking which door is the true one; not which pleases you best by its paint and paneling.

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Mere Christianity - Excerpt from Preface:

In plain language, the question should never be: "Do I like that kind of service?" but "Are these doctrines true: Is holiness here? Does my conscience move me towards this? Is my reluctance to knock at this door due to my pride, or my mere taste, or my personal dislike of this particular door-keeper?"

 

When you have reached your own room, be kind to those who have chosen different doors and to those who are still in the hall. If they are wrong they need your prayers all the more; and if they are your enemies, then you are under orders to pray for them. This is one of the rules common to the whole house.

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Book I - Right and Wrong as a Clue to the

Meaning of the Universe

A Flow-Chart Approach

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I Peter 3:15

But in your heart set Christ as Lord. Always be prepared to give an answer to everyone who asks you to give the reason for the hope that you have. But do this with gentleness and respect, keeping a clear conscience.

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What was the Purpose of it all?

To Teach

But Christians are constantly talking about something different

Who was (and is) Christ?

Lunatic? God? Great Moral Teacher?

It does Not Make Sense It is beyond my senses It is non-sense

Death ResurrectionChrist

Book 2 - What Christians Believe

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Understanding / Believing Christianity

Pictures The Real Thing Theories

Believing Understanding

Why did He have to die?

God had to Restore the Original Order

Man needed to be restored and could not do it by himself

Man Needed to go through a complete

restoration / recycle / re-birth

mutually exclusive

Perfect Humiliation was necessary

This could not be accomplished by man himself

God would have to walk us through the process

Only a God (Perfection) and Man (Humiliation) could do itHE DID IT - FOR US

Book 2 - What Christians Believe

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Universe dx dy dz Good

God s Will Evil

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dtEvil Sin

Man s Sins Death

Jesus Suffering surrection Death

Death Eternal Life

The Cosmic Equations - Calculus for Life

Creation

Fall

Redemption

Book 2 - What Christians Believe

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Perfect HumiliationPerfect because He was God - Humiliation because He was man

How and where from this new man derives his strengthNew life - Christ life

Faith

Baptism Communion

Book 2 - What Christians Believe

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Christ-life operate through our bodies, fingers, muscles, etc..

God loves and uses material things, like bread and wine.He loves matter. He Created it

But why is God landing in this enemy-occupied world?Why is He not landing in force, invading it?

Is He not strong enough?

Yes, He is. God will invade.But when He does, it will be very different.

When the author walks on to the stage the play is over.

Are you ready?Have you chosen the right side - His side?

Now is the time for choosing. God is holding back to give us that chance - It will not last forever.

Book 2 - What Christians Believe

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What is Morality?

Rules to stop us having fun Rules for running the human machine

Moral Ideals vs Moral Rules

Moral Idealism vs Moral Obedience

Ways The Human Machine Goes Wrong

Individuals drift apart from one another - collide

Different parts within an individual drift apart or interfere

with one another

Book 3 - Christian Behavior

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Morality is concerned with three things

Fair play between individuals

Tidying up or harmonizing the things inside each individual

What man was made for

The behavior of the human machine is related to the understanding of its origin and destination

To whom we belong to? How long are we going to live?

Morality : Three Departments

Relations between man to man

Relations inside each man

Relations between man and the power that made him

Book 3 - Christian Behavior

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The Cardinal (Pivotal - Essential) Virtues

Prudence

Temperance

Justice

Fortitude

Common SenseChild’s HeartGrown-up Head

Going the right length and no furtherFrom drinking to reading

FairnessHonestyTruthfulnessKeeping Promises

Guts

One of the reasons why it needs no special education to be a Christian is that Christianity is an education itself. This is why, an uneducated believer like Bunyan was able to write a book that

astonished the whole world.

Christianity requires the whole of us, brains, and all.

Book 3 - Christian Behavior

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Virtue

Quality Not a particular Action

1. The right actions done for the wrong reason do not help to build character called virtue

2. God does not want obedience to a set of rules - He is interested in a people of a particular sort

3. In heaven we may not need to practice the cardinal virtues, but there will be every occasion for being the sort of people that we can become only as a result of doing such acts here. ...if people have not got at least the beginnings of those qualities inside of them, then no possible external conditions could make a “Heaven” for them - that is, could make them happy with the deep, strong, unshakable kind of happiness God intended for us.

Important Observations

Galatians 6: 1-10 (Let us not become weary in doing good)

Book 3 - Christian Behavior

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If our charities to do not at all pinch us or hamper us, I should say they are too small.

Every time we make a choice we are turning the central part of us either into a heavenly creature or into a hellish creature.

When Christianity tells you to feed the hungry it does not give you lessons in cookery.

Book 3 - Christian Behavior

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Social Morality

1Golden Rule:

Do as you would be done by

2Christianity has, and does not profess to have a

detailed political program for applying ‘Do as you would be done by’

When it tells you to feed the hungry it does not give you

lessons in cookery

When it tells you to read the Scriptures it does not give you

lessons in Hebrew or Greek

It was never intended to replace the ordinary human arts and science: it is a director which will set them all to the right jobs, if only they will put themselves at its disposal.

Life is Religion

Book 3 - Christian Behavior

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The job is really on us, on the laymen, not the Church.

The application of Christian principles, say to trade unionism or education, must come from Christian trade unionists and Christian schoolmasters: just as Christian literature comes from

Christian novelists and dramatics - from from the bench of bishops getting together and trying to write plays and novels in their spare time.

The New Testament tell us:

1. There is no passengers or parasites2 . Leftist - and Obedient

3. Cheerful society

Economy = SocialistCode of manners = Aristocratic

Modern Economy - Based on lending money at interestChristian Economist are needed here.

The concept applies to all professions.

To All of Life

Book 3 - Christian Behavior

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The Question of Giving - Charity

I do not believe one can settle how much we ought to give. I am afraid the only safe rule is to give more than we can spare. In other words, if our expenditure on comforts, luxuries, amusements, etc.., is up to the standard common among those with the same income as our own, we are probably giving

too little. If our charities to do not at all pinch us or hamper us, I should say they are too small.

A Christian society is not going to arrive until most of us want it.

And we are not going to want it until we become fully Christians.

But I cannot do it until I love my neighbor as myself.

And I am not going learn to love my neighbor until I learn to love God

and I cannot learn to love God until I obey Him.

Book 3 - Christian Behavior

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Morality and Psychoanalysis

Christian Specification for the human machine

Moral Choices Involve:

1. Choosing2. Feelings, Impulses (raw material of his choice)

Natural and Perverted Desires

Bad psychological material is not sin but a disease

God does not judge man on the raw material at all but on what he does with it.

Every time you make a choice you are turning the central part, the part of you that chooses, into something a little different from what it was before ... turning this central part either into a heavenly

creature or into a hellish creature.

Book 3 - Christian Behavior

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Sexual Morality

The Christian Rule: Virtue of Chastity

Chastity should not be confused with social rule of modesty, propriety or decency

The Christian Rule is:Either Marriage with complete faithfulness to your partner, or

else total abstinence

This rule is so contrary to our instincts, that obviously either Christianity is wrong or our sexual instinct has gone wrong.

The biological purpose of sex is children.

Please discuss the following definition:Sex was made for the ultimate intimate enjoyment within the bounds of

marriage in which children can be an additional blessing.

Book 3 - Christian Behavior

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Sexual Appetite

Food strip-tease (sexual starvation or perversion)

Why are lies about sex so powerful?

Christianity has glorified marriage more than any other religion.

What is the view of the Film and TV industry on sexual morality?

Every civilized man must have some set of principles by which he chooses to reject some of his desires and and to permit others.

Christian PrinciplesHygienic Principles

Sociological Principles

Perfect Chastity - like perfect charity - will not be attained by any merely human efforts.

Sex: The Center of Christian Morality is Not Here.

Book 3 - Christian Behavior

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Christian Marriage

Marriage is for Life

Keeping Promises: A Basic Moral Principle

The important difference between:

Being in Love with someone or Loving someone

Love is an evolving process - ever improving and deepening

The Question of Divorce

The Question of Man’s HeadshipConstitution, Natural Psychology

Book 3 - Christian Behavior

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Forgiveness

The most unpopular virtue.

Do you agree with this statement?Think of someone you find difficult to forgive.

Let us ask God to help us and forgive us!

Love your neighbor as yourself!

Discuss what does this mean to you.How do we love ourselves?

Do we need to like what we love?

Capital punishment.

How do we respond to it?When killing is not a murder?

Never enjoy punishing - Discuss.

If we do not forgive we shall not be forgiven.

Book 3 - Christian Behavior

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Charity

Three Theological Virtues

Faith - Hope - Charity

Discuss the following topics related to charity:

Giving to the poor.Love is not a state of the feeling but of the will.

Liking conflicts with charity.The rule is: Do not waste your time bothering ...

Giving and show off.Good and evil both increase at compound interest.

Do not waste your time bothering whether you ‘love’ your neighbor; act as if you did. As soon as we do this we find one of the great secrets.

Book 3 - Christian Behavior

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Hope

Looking forward to the eternal world.No escapism wishful thinking.

The Hope for Heaven led the Christians throughout the ages to do things that changed history.

(The Apostles, the great men of the middle ages, The Reformers, The English Evangelicals, The Civil Rights Movement, etc.)

Dealing with the inconsolable longing.The Fool’s Way

The Way of Disillusioned Sensible ManThe Christian Way

Aim at Heaven and you will get earth ‘thrown in’: aim at earth and you will get neither.

If I find in myself a desire which no experience in this world can satisfy, the most probable explanation is that I was made for another world.

Book 3 - Christian Behavior

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Faith

Is faith a moral virtue or a statement to be accepted as good or bad?

At what point of the Christian life does faith come into the picture?

What is the problem with faith and emotion?Romans 7:14-20, Genesis 4:7

Why is faith a necessary virtue?

1st: Recognize the fact that your moods change.2nd: Remind yourself daily of what you believe.

“It is not reason that is taking away my faith, but my imagination and my emotions.”

Book 3 - Christian Behavior

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Making and Begetting

Theology: As a MapLess Real, But Essential

Christians: We are all Missionaries and Theologians

Religious Experience Based on Emotions (Charismatic)

Feelings (New Age)Popular Understanding (Nominalism)

Christianity (Integral Religion) is Based onFaith

ReasonExperience

Emotions, Feelings

A discussion about life and how it relates to God.

Book 4 - Beyond Personality

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Making and Begetting

Christ is the Son of GodThose who give Him their confidence can also become Sons of God

His death saved us from our sins

Man as Pictures or Statues of GodMaterial versus Spiritual

This world is a great sculptor’s shop. We are the statues and there is a rumor going round the shop that some of us are some

day going to come to life.

Before all worlds Christ is begotten, not created.

Book 4 - Beyond Personality

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The Three-Personal God A discussion of the divine personality, it's qualities, and how it works in our lives.

God beyond Personality

The Wrong idea - God as something impersonalThe Christian Idea - God as Super-Personal / Three-Personal Life

God

is

Father

Son Spirit

isis

is not

is not

is not

Book 4 - Beyond Personality

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More Quotes From Mere Christianity

"Right actions done for the wrong reason do not help to build the internal quality or character called a "virtue," and it is this quality or character that really matters."

"There is a difficulty about disagreeing with God. He is the source from which all you reasoning power comes: you could not be right and he wrong any more than a stream can rise higher than its own source. When you are arguing against Him you are arguing against the very power that makes you able to argue at all: it is like cutting off the branch you are sitting on."

"There are only two kinds of people in the end: those who say to God, "Thy will be done," and those to whom God says, in the end, "Thy will be done." All that are in Hell, choose it. Without that self-choice there could be no Hell."

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"Imagine yourself as a living house. God comes in to rebuild that house. At first, perhaps, you can understand what He is doing. He is getting the drains right and stopping the leaks in the roof and so on: you knew that those jobs needed doing and so you are not surprised. But presently he starts knocking the house about in a way that hurts abominably and does not seem to make sense. What on earth is He up to? The explanation is that He is building quite a different house from the one you thought of - throwing out a new wing here, putting on an extra floor there, running up towers, making courtyards. You thought you were going to be made into a decent little cottage: but He is building a palace. He intends to come and live in it Himself."

"...in the very act of trying to prove that God did not exist - in other words, that the whole of reality was senseless - I found that I was forced to assume that one part of reality - namely, my idea of justice - was full of sense. Consequently, atheism turns out to be too simple. If the whole universe has no meaning, we should never have found out that it has no meaning; just as, if there were no light in the universe and therefore no creatures with eyes, we should never know it was dark. Dark would be without meaning.”

"Surely what a man does when he is taken off his guard is the best evidence for what sort of man he is..."

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"If I find in myself a desire which no experience in this world can satisfy, the most probable explanation is that I was made for another world."

"Until you have given up your self to Him you will not have a real self..."

"Besides being complicated, reality, in my experience, is usually odd. It is not neat, not obvious, not what you expect."

“The only things we can keep are the things we freely give to God. What we try to keep for ourselves is just what we are sure to lose.”

"They are told they ought to love God. They cannot find any such feeling in themselves. What are they to do? The answer is the same as before. Act as if you did. Do not sit tying to manufacture feelings. Ask yourself, 'If I were sure that I loved God, what would I do?' When you have found the answer, go and do it."

"But the great thing to remember is that, though our feelings come and go, His love for us does not."

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More Quotes From Mere Christianity

" ...badness cannot succeed even in being bad in the same way in which goodness is good. Goodness is, so to speak, itself: badness is only spoiled goodness . . . Evil is a parasite, not an original thing."

No man knows how bad he is till he has tried very hard to be good.”

"Never, never pin your whole faith on a human being...there are lots of nice things you can do with sand; but do not try building a house on it." 

"If I find myself a desire which no experience in this world can satisfy, the most probable explanation is that I was made for another world." 

"The Son of God became a man to enable men to become sons of God."  

“Free will is what has made evil possible. Why, then, did God give [creatures] free will? Because free will, though it makes evil possible, is also the only thing that makes possible any love or goodness or joy worth having.”  

“The happiness God desires for His creatures is...ecstasy of love...And for that they must be free.”

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“Christianity agrees with Dualism that this universe is at war. But it does not think this is a war between independent powers. It thinks it is a civil war, a rebellion, and that we are living in a part of the universe occupied by the rebel....Enemy-occupied territory—that is what this world is.”

 

The better stuff a creature is made of—the cleverer and stronger and freer it is—then the better it will be if it goes right, but also the worse it will be if it goes wrong.

 

Christianity is the story of how the rightful king has landed, you might say landed in disguise, and is calling us all to take part in a great campaign of sabotage.

 

"Whenever you find a man who says he doesn't believe in a real Right and Wrong, you will find the same man going back on this a moment later."

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"If I find in myself a desire which no experience in this world can satisfy, the most probable explanation is that I was made for another world." 

"If God thinks this state of war in the universe a price worth paying for free will...then we may take it it is worth paying." 

"Until you have given up your self to Him you will not have a real self..." 

"Atheism turns out to be too simple. If the whole universe has no meaning, we should never have found out that it has no meaning..." 

"When you are arguing against Him you are arguing against the very power that makes you able to argue at all." 

"You would not call a man humane for ceasing to set mousetraps if he did so because he believed there were no mice in the house." 

"There is nothing indulgent about the Moral Law. It is as hard as nails...If God is like the Moral Law, then He is not soft."

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"All that we call human history--money, poverty, ambition, war, prostitution, classes, empires, slavery--[is] the long terrible story of man trying to find something other than God which will make him happy."

 

"The natural life in each of us is something self-centered, something that wants to be petted and admired, to take advantage of other lives, to exploit the whole universe."

 

"[The natural life] knows that if the spiritual life gets hold of it, all its self-centeredness and self-will are going to be killed and it is ready to fight tooth and nail to avoid that."

 

"The terrible thing, the almost impossible thing, is the hand over your whole self--all your wishes and precautions--to Christ."

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"My argument against God was that the universe seemed so cruel and unjust. But how had I got this idea of just and unjust? A man does not call a line crooked unless he has some idea of a straight line. What was I comparing this universe with when I called it unjust? If the whole show was bad and senseless from A to Z, so to speak, why did I, who was supposed to be part of the show, find myself in such violent reaction against it? A man feels wet when he falls into water, because man is not a water animal: a fish would not feel wet. Of course, I could have given up my idea of justice by saying that it was nothing but a private idea of my own. But if I did that, then my argument against God collapsed too--for the argument depended on saying that the world was really unjust, not simply that it did not happen to please my private fancies. Thus in the very act of trying to prove that God did not exist--in other words, that the whole of reality was senseless--I found I was forced to assume that one part of reality--namely my idea of justice--was full of sense. Consequently atheism turns out to be too simple. If the whole universe has no meaning, we should never have found out that it has no meaning: just as, if there were no light in the universe and therefore no creatures with eyes, we should never know it was dark. Dark would be without meaning."

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"Doctrines are not God: they are only a kind of map. But the map is based on the experience of hundreds of people who really were in touch with God--experiences compared with which any thrills or pious feelings you or I are likely to get on our own way are very elementary and very confused. And secondly, if you want to get any further, you must use the map... [This] is just why a vague religion--all about feeling God in nature, and so on--is so attractive. It is all thrills and no work; like watching the waves from the beach. But you will not get to Newfoundland by studying the Atlantic that way, and you will not get eternal life by simply feeling the presence of God in flowers or music. Neither will you get anywhere by looking at maps without going to sea. Nor will you be very safe if you go to sea without a map." 

"If you do not listen to Theology, that will mean that you have no ideas about God. It will mean that you have a lot of wrong ones--bad, muddled, out-of-date ideas. For a great many of the ideas about God which are trotted out as novelties today, are simply the ones which real Theologians tried centuries ago and rejected. To believe in the popular religion of modern England is retrogression--like believing the earth is flat." 

"Really great moral teachers never do introduce new moralities: it is quacks and cranks who do that... The real job of every moral teacher is to keep on bringing us back, time after time, to the old simple principles which we are all so anxious not to see."

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More Quotes From Mere Christianity

"People often think of Christian morality as a kind of bargain in which God says, 'If you keep a lot of rules, I'll reward you, and if you don't I'll do the other thing.' I do not think that is the best way of looking at it. I would much rather say that every time you make a choice you are turning the central part of you, the part of you that chooses, into something a little different from what it was before. And taking your life as a whole, with all your innumerable choices, all your life long you are slowly turning this central thing into a Heaven creature or into a hellish creature: either into a creature that is in harmony with God, and with other creatures, and with itself, or else into one that is in a state of war and hatred with God, and with its fellow creatures, and with itself. To be the one kind of creature is Heaven: that is, it is joy, and peace, and knowledge, and power. To be the other means madness, horror, idiocy, rage, impotence, and eternal loneliness. Each of us at each moment is progressing to the one state or the other."

 

"What God begets is God; just as what man begets is man. What God creates is not God; just as what man makes is not man. That is why men are not Sons of God in the sense that Christ is. They may be like God in certain ways, but they are not things of the same kind. They are more like statues or pictures of God." 

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More Quotes From Mere Christianity 

"Faith... is the art of holding onto things your reason has once accepted, in spite of your changing moods. For moods will change, whatever view your reason takes. I know that by experience. Now that I am a Christian, I do have moods in which the whole thing looks very improbable: but when I was an atheist, I had moods in which Christianity looked terribly probable. This rebellion of your moods against your real self is going to come anyway. That is why Faith is such a necessary virtue: unless you teach your moods 'where they get off,' you can never be either a sound Christian or even a sound atheist, but just a creature dithering to and fro, with its beliefs really dependent on the weather and the state of its digestion."

 

"... As St. Paul points out, Christ never meant that we were to remain children in intelligence: on the contrary, He told us to be not only 'as harmless as doves' but also 'as wise as serpents.' He wants a child's heart, but a grown-up's head."

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The principle runs through all life from top to bottom, Give up yourself, and you will find your real self. Lose your life and you will save it. Submit to death, death of your ambitions and favorite wishes every day and death of your whole body in the end submit with every fiber of your being, and you will find eternal life. Keep back nothing. Nothing that you have not given away will be really yours. Nothing in you that has not died will ever be raised from the dead. Look for yourself, and you will find in the long run only hatred, loneliness, despair, rage, ruin, and decay. But look for Christ and you will find Him, and with Him everything else thrown in.