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THE FUTURE OF MEMBERSHIP#MEMBERSHIPFUTURES

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Conclusions• Public Radio Strong. Public TV is Stable.

• Top-line Numbers Mask System Imbalances.

• All Stations Face Significant Challenges.

• Shift to Mobile May Be More Disruptive. (than First Wave of Internet Service)

• (IMHO) System Growth Will Require Shared Infrastructure and Service Outsourcing.

• The Path Ahead is BOTH Different and Better.

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PUBLIC RADIO IS STRONG PUBLIC TELEVISION IS STABLE

Top-line View

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2007 2008 2009 2010 2011 2012 2013

Individ-uals

290827979 299683902 307374635 315690413 341823164 355543527 362217924

Major Giving

27073399 38381186 38980437 47425758 53233454 58893288 73752939

25,000,000 75,000,000

125,000,000 175,000,000 225,000,000 275,000,000 325,000,000 375,000,000 425,000,000 475,000,000

Radio

Courtesy Moutapha Abdul, CPBbased on Station Annual Financial Reports

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2007 2008 2009 2010 2011 2012 2013

Individ-uals

435453717 437852788 382999939 366278186 364397692 362609361 359513254

Major Giving

38902162 57824729 64713973 66437672 77662685 75231277 82993614

50,000,000

150,000,000

250,000,000

350,000,000

450,000,000

550,000,000

Television

Courtesy Moutapha Abdul, CPBbased on Station Annual Financial Reports

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IN PUBLIC RADIO INDIVIDUAL GIVING IS DRIVING GROWTH

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050,000,000

100,000,000150,000,000200,000,000250,000,000300,000,000350,000,000400,000,000450,000,000500,000,000

Major Revenue Sources - All Radio*(Adjusted to 2012 dollars)

Individual Giving State/Local Tax CPB + Fed GrantsBusiness Foundations

Source: CPB Annual Financial Reports

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28%

System Growth: 2007 – 2013(285 CPB ELIGIBLE RADIO)

Membership Revenue

+ $68,000,000

Source: CPB AFRs

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9%

System Growth: 2007 – 2013

Membership Revenue

+ $4,930,000

190 SMALLER* PUBLIC RADIO STATIONS

*Smaller = under $2.5 million revenue 2013Source: CPB AFRs

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9%

System Growth: 2007 – 2013

Membership Revenue

+ $740,000

35 NFCB STATIONS

Source: CPB AFRs

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20%

System Growth: 2007 – 2013 (285 CPB ELIGIBLE RADIO)Me

mbers File Growth

+ 450,000

Source: CPB AFRs

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-2%

System Growth: 2007 – 2013Members File Growth

-9,600

190 SMALLER PUBLIC RADIO STATIONS

Source: CPB AFRs

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-11%

System Growth: 2007 – 2013Members File Growth

- 9,100

35 NFCB STATIONS

Source: CPB AFRs

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167%

System Growth: 2007 – 2013 (285 CPB ELIGIBLE RADIO)M

ajor Gifts +

$42,000,000

Source: CPB AFRs

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177%

System Growth: 2007 – 2013Major Gifts + $4,106,000

190 SMALLER PUBLIC RADIO STATIONS

Source: CPB AFRs

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175%

System Growth: 2007 – 2013Major Gifts + $394,000

35 NFCB STATIONS

Source: CPB AFRs

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41%

System Growth: 2007 – 2013 (285 CPB ELIGIBLE RADIO)

Individual Giving

+ $110,000,000

Source: CPB AFRs

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13%

System Growth: 2007 – 2013Individual Giving + $1,135,000

ALL NFCB STATIONS

35 NFCB STATIONS

Source: CPB AFRs

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THE BIGGEST SYSTEM CHALLENGES:GROWTH IS CONCENTRATEDOUR SYSTEMS ARE OLD

4

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Licensee Cohorts(RADIO ONLY)

Group Total Direct Revenue in FY13

# in this Group

Very Large $20 million and over 8Larger $5 million to $19.99 million 39

Medium $2.5 million to $4.99 million 48Smaller Under $2.5 million 190

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Growing (or not) in Different Directions2007 – 2013 RADIO ONLY!

The “Very Large” and “Larger” Cohort (47 Lic. With 2013 gross revenue over $5 million)

– 90% of file growth– 76% of Total Revenue growth

The “Smaller” Cohort (190 Lic. With 2013 gross revenues under $2.5 million)

– Lost 9,000 members* , and– Grew Total Annual Member Revenue

by only $4 million over 6 yrs. (Avg: $21,000/lic. )

* Half of the Smaller licensees lost members from ‘07 – ’13

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Increase in Individual Support, Radio (Incl. Major Gifts):

Just one year: 2013 vs. 2012

-$2,000,000

-$1,000,000

$0

$1,000,000

$2,000,000

$3,000,000

$4,000,000

Courtesy Moutapha Abdul, CPBbased on Station Annual Financial Reports

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WHAT ARE WE AFRAID OF?WHAT SHOULD WE BE AFRAID OF?

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Thank you to Bill Davis, SCPR, for providing this slide.

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2001 2002 2003 2004 2005 2006 2007 2008 2009 2010 2011 2012 20130

200,000,000

400,000,000

600,000,000

800,000,000

1,000,000,000

1,200,000,000

Public RadioStation and Major Network Revenues

Approx. Adjusted to 2012 dollars

Millions of 2012 Dollars

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0.0

1,000,000.0

2,000,000.0

3,000,000.0

4,000,000.0

5,000,000.0

6,000,000.0Public TV National Member File

CPB Annual Financial Reports and David Waterman, Ryland Sherman and SungWook Ji, The Economics of Online Television: Revenue models, Aggregation and 'TV Everywhere,' August 2012

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0.0

1,000,000.0

2,000,000.0

3,000,000.0

4,000,000.0

5,000,000.0

6,000,000.0Public TV National Member File

CPB Annual Financial Reports and David Waterman, Ryland Sherman and SungWook Ji, The Economics of Online Television: Revenue models, Aggregation and 'TV Everywhere,' August 2012

National PTV member files peakin 1993 at 5 million members.

What happened in 1994?

ANSWER: DIGITAL CABLE LAUNCHES IN 1994

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0.0

1,000,000.0

2,000,000.0

3,000,000.0

4,000,000.0

5,000,000.0

6,000,000.0Public TV National Member File

CPB Annual Financial Reports and David Waterman, Ryland Sherman and SungWook Ji, The Economics of Online Television: Revenue models, Aggregation and 'TV Everywhere,' August 2012

1998: 171 channels1990: 79 channels

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Source: NPR Digital Services, Triton Digital Media

NPR Stations have lost 18% of their AQH since 2008

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Source: NPR Digital Services, Triton Digital Media

NPR Stations have lost 18% of their AQH since 2008

Launch of iPhoneJan 2007, start of

the Smartphone era

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EMERGING PROBLEMS

Pledge is Eroding

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31%

34%

23%

9%3%

Are your pledge drives getter lower results?

Yes... down 10% or moreYes... down less than 10%No... pledges are steady/flatNo… up less than 10%No... Up 10% or more

Two thirds reported lower pledge volume.

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9%

15%

41%

35%

Do you think Pledge Will Become Less Effective As Listeners Get More Audio Options?

Strongly disagree Disagree NeutralAgree Strongly Agree

Seventy-six percent thought pledge would become less effective

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EMERGING PROBLEMS

35 Interviews with Senior Industry Found No Consensus on the Path Forward

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I asked 35 Senior Execs: If Pledge Declines… Do you see any alternatives?

• I don't know of any [alternatives] that are as effective or that bring in the numbers

• We tried direct mail, but the numbers were not good.

• It's got to be something around digital...

• Events... perhaps charging for events and having events discounts be part of that…

• It would have to be a long-term build and a large technology investment.

• Big data--we are just beginning to understand what our audience is doing in real time.

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EMERGING PROBLEMS

Twenty-First Century ContentTwentieth Century Systems

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1950-75 ‘75-85 ‘85-95 ‘95-05 ‘05 - Now

DATA/SEGMENT

Social Media

Crowd

Canv

Mobile

Sustainers Programs

WebPledge/Email

Major Gifts

Telemarketing

Auctions Events

Database maintenance

Acquisition Mail

Renewals

Pledge Drives

This is the Future of Membership

The tools we are using were created for this era

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Almost all the survey respondents said “My pledge page is mobile optimized. And their pages looked like this…

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79%

22%

Can I Change my Credit Card at your site?

No Yes

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EMERGING PROBLEMS

Mobile: Content Communications Transactions

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Mobile is coming very fast

[S]ome retailers are already seeing spikes in in-store mobile payments activity, much of which is because of the introduction of Apple Pay… Forrester predicts that remote mobile payments… will be the largest area of growth over the next five years.

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The “perfect mobile storm” will begin in 2015.

1. Consumers already use mobile for most email and social media. For some stations, the same is true for web and program content.

2. Merchants have to install high-security credit card processing technology by October 2015.

3. VISA, MasterCard, American Express and all the big banks will push Apple Pay and digital wallets.

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How big is the shift to mobile?

• Pew Internet Survey: In 5 Years mobile payments will top both cash AND credit cards.

• Harv Bus Rev: 1 in 3 Americans have abandoned desktops/laptops completely (in favor of mobile).

• Mobile viewing of e-mail is over 50% and is already impacting e-mail fundraising.

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For Mobile PaymentsBe Aware of Amara’s Law

We tend to overestimate the effect of a technology in the short run andand underestimate the effect in the long run.

Roy Amara, Past PresidentThe Institute for the Future

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2. NEW MESSAGING = NEW MESSENGERS & NEW COMMUNITIES

The real lessons of social media and crowdfunding

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“If we only had better messaging…” (Part I)

Donors are increasingly responding to new messengers:

• 22-40% of traffic to online giving pages is from donors’ --not organizations’--Facebook activity.

• 50%+ of Kickstarter gifts are generated by social media activity not initiated by the NPO project.

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Social and crowd fundraising reward new offers

• Membership is not always our strongest pitch. (especially for existing members!)

• Loyal members and sustainers want new ways to support their stations.

• Social and crowd fundraising for projects, programs, or activities can also emphasize station local-ness.

“If we only had better messaging…” (Part II)

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12 of 22 Independent Lens films funded on Kickstarter last season

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World Wildlife Fund targets families, friends

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Crowdfunding hit $5 billion last year$1.5 billion for nonprofits

• Kickstarter raised a half-billion $ in 12 months from 6 million backers

• Very low cost-to-acquire donors

• High % are new

• Stations are testing for local programs (WFPL Louisville)

• Major donors, funders love to see success

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WE COULD GROW EVEN MORE IF WE CAN BE BETTER AND DIFFERENT

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The Potential Upside

Under 2012 audience conditions, pubcasters should be able to

secure $100 to 200 million more annually

in individual gifts. *

*2012 Public Media Futures Forum, System Assessment from the Contributor Development Partnership, Boston Consulting Group Report for NPR

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How would we get that $200 million?By a mix of BETTER and DIFFERENT

• Refine/Expand Sustainers Programs• Sharpen Pledge Messaging• Expand Major Gift Work (locally/nationally)• Re-organize Basics… bringing them closer to

“Best Practice”• Outsource Backroom Operations

Bett

er

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How would we get that $200 million?By a mix of BETTER and DIFFERENT

• Re-Imagine Pledge Drives• Create New Forms of Member

Recruitment (esp. online and mobile)• Develop Data Tracking/Segmentation• Refine Mobile Systems and Design• Apply Social MediaDiff

eren

t

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1950-75 ‘75-85 ‘85-95 ‘95-05 ‘05 - Now

DATA/SEGMENT

Social Media

Crowd

Canv

Mobile

Sustainers Programs

WebPledge/Email

Major Gifts

Telemarketing

Auctions Events

Database maintenance

Acquisition Mail

Renewals

Pledge Drives

This is the Future of Membership

The tools we are using were created for this era

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LET’S NOT OVERLOOK THE OBVIOUSLegacy practices still work!

• They are (for now) more convenient than online or mobile giving.

• We know how to measure them. They are fairly predictable.

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Mark Fuerst, [email protected]://forums.current.org/

Dick McPhersonCEO, New Donor [email protected] @mcpadvisor