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THE FIRE THAT
CONSUMES
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Thanks to
Edward Fudge, JDDouglas Jacoby, DMin
• http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oHUPpmbTOV4
• www.EdwardFudge.com
• www.douglasjacoby.com
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All glory and praise
to God’s Son, our Savior,
the LORD JESUS CHRIST,
who delivers us
from the wrath to come.
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Rob Bell
Francis Chan Mark Galli
Hell is much in the news today.
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Our measuring stick and standard will
be God’s Word
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In this hour we will see …
Three Views of Hell
WHAT IS THE WICKED’S END?O.T. * Intertestamental * N.T.
CHURCH HISTORY:traditional doctrine evolves
Why it matters
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Three Views of Hell
The fire thattorments forever(Majority/traditionalview)
1
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Three Views of Hell
The fire thattorments forever(Majority/traditionalview)
1
Emphasizes‘eternal punishment’
‘fire not quenched’
‘smoke goes up forever’
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A troubling question:Must we conclude that God,
who gave his Son for sinners,
will keep billions of them
alive–to torment them without
end?
If that is what Scripture
teaches, our answer will beYES . . .
However, highly-respected,Bible-believing scholars in
increasing numbers are
answering NO!
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Besides the traditional view,
two other explanations
have been offered.
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Three Views of Hell
The fire thattorments forever1
The fire thatpurifies(Universal restoration)
2Emphasizes
God is not willingthat any perishSavior of all,
especially believersReconciled theworld to himself
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Three Views of Hell
The fire thattorments forever1
The fire thatpurifies2
The fire thatconsumes(Most biblicallyconsistent view)
3
Emphasizes
God is a consumingfire
The wages of sin is death
God destroys soul &body in hell
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Please do notCHANGE
your mind today.
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Please do not
CHALLENGEyour thinking
today.
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What can we learn about ...
THE END OF THE WICKED?
Old Testament
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Law
(Torah) Prophets
Writings
(“Psalms”)Luke 24:44 - “all things … written about Me
in the Law of Moses and the Prophets and
the *Psalms must be fulfilled.”
(*also called the “Writings”)
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Law
(Torah) Prophets
Writings
(“Psalms”)
PrototypesPredictions
Principles
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WRITINGS:
Principlesof divine judgment
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Example: Psalm 37
1 Do not fret because of evildoers, be not envious
toward wrongdoers.
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2 For they will wither quicklylike the grass, and fade likethe green herb.
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9 For evildoers will be cut off,10 Yet a little while and the
wicked man will be no more;
And you will look carefully forhis place and he will not bethere . . . 20 But the wicked willperish . . . They vanish -- like
smoke they vanish away . . .
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34 . . . Wait for the LORD andkeep His way, And He will exalt
you to inherit the land ; Whenthe wicked are cut off, you
will see it.
But what if we do not see it here?Is God’s justice then thwarted?
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The wicked will:
wither (Psalm 37:2)
be no more (Psalm 104:36)
perish (Psalm 1:6)
vanish (Psalm 37:20)
be destroyed (Psalm 37:38)
50 Hebrew verbs (active & passive)
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God will:
break them in pieces (Psalm 2:9)
slay them (Psalm 139:19)
cut them off (Psalm 94:23)
blot out of book of living (Psalm 69:28)
rain fire & brimstone (Psalm 11:6)
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Wicked will be like:
chaff blown away (Psalm 1:4)
slug that melts (Psalm 58:8)
grass cut down (Psalm 37:2)
wax melts (Psalm 68:2)
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clay pot broken (Psalm 2:9)
water that flows away (Psalm 58:7)
smoke vanishes (Psalm 68:2)
stubble before the wind (Psalm 83:13)
70 metaphors, similes
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Please Note:
• Not literal descriptions
• Reality will correspond to pictures
• Reality will not be exact opposite of
pictures
• This variety of pictures creates a
consistent impression . . .
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TORAH:
Prototypesof divine judgment
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Exhibit 1: The Flood
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What happened?
Gen 7:21 All flesh that moved on the
earth perished . . .; 22 ... all in whose
nostrils was the breath of the spirit of
life, died. 23 Thus He blotted outevery living thing that was upon the
face of the land . . .
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WAS PREVIEW OF FUTURE
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2 Peter 3:5-7 For . . . the heavens existed long ago
and the earth was formed out of water
… 6 through which the world at that
time was destroyed, being flooded
with water. 7 But . . . the present heavens and
earth are being reserved for fire, kept
for the day of judgment and destruc-tion of ungodly men.
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Exhibit 2: Sodom
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What happened?
Gen. 19:24 Then the LORD rained on
Sodom and Gomorrah brimstone andfire … out of heaven, 25 and He
overthrew those cities, and … the
inhabitants of the cities, and what grew
on the ground …
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WAS PREVIEW OF FUTURE
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2 Peter 2:6
God condemned the cities of Sodom
and Gomorrah to destruction
by reducing them to ashes,
having made them an example[hypodeigma] to those who would live
ungodly lives thereafter;
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Jude 7 . . . Sodom and Gomorrah . . .
are exhibited as an example [deigma]
in undergoing the punishment ofeternal fire.
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PROPHETS:
Predictionsof divine judgment
(four sample messianic texts)
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BROKEN LIKE POTTERY
I will proclaim the LORD’s decree:
He said to me, “You are my son; today
I have begotten you.
Ask me, and I will make the nations
your inheritance, the ends of the earth
your possession.
You will break them with a rod ofiron; you will dash them to pieces likepottery” (Psalm 2:7-9).
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CORPSES ON BATTLEFIELD
The Lord is at your right hand; he will
crush kings on the day of his wrath.
He will judge the nations, heapingup the dead, and crushing the rulers
of the whole earth (Psalm 110:5-6).
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CORPSES CONSUMED
”Then they will go forth and look onthe corpses of the men who have
transgressed against Me. For their
worm will not die, and their fire will
not be quenched, and they will be an
abhorrence to all mankind” (Isaiah
66:24).
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ASHES UNDERFOOT
The day is coming, burning like afurnace; and . . . every evildoer will be
chaff; and the day . . . will set themablaze,” says the LORD of hosts, “so
that it will leave them neither root norbranch” . . . [T]he wicked . . . will be
ashes under the soles of your feeton the day which I am preparing,” says
the LORD of hosts (Malachi 4:1-3).
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DO WE GET THE PICTURE?
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broken pottery
Ps 2:7-9
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battlefieldcorpses
Ps 110:5-6
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corpses, fire & maggots
Isa 66:24
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ashes underfoot
Mal 4:1-3
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• Not literal descriptions
• Reality will correspond to pictures
• Reality will not be exact opposite
of pictures
• What impression do you get from
the Old Testament on this topic?
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WHAT IS THE WICKED’S END?INTERTESTAMENTAL
Views of Hell
Tormenting fire1
Purifying fire2
Consuming fire3
Apocr
ypha
Pse
udepig
rapha
Dead S
ea S
crolls
Rabbin
ical
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WHAT DOES THE NEW
TESTAMENT SAY?
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Let’s explore together . . .
New Testament
John the Baptist
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JOHN THE BAPTIST: ‘BURN UP’
“I baptize you with water for repen-
tance, but he who is coming after me is
mightier than I . . . His winnowing fork
is in his hand, and he will thoroughly
clear his threshing floor; and he will
gather his wheat into the barn, but he
will burn up the chaff with unquench-able fire” (Matt. 3:11-12).
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Let’s explore together . . .
New Testament
Jesus
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JESUS CHRIST: kill, destroy
Do not fear those who kill the body but
are unable to kill the soul; but rather
fear Him who is able to destroy(apollymi) both soul and body in *hell(Matt 10:28).
*gehenna (11 times in Gospels)
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Valley of Sons of Hinnom
GEHENNA TODAY
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JESUS CHRIST: perish
“For God so loved the world, that he
gave his only begotten Son, that
whoever believes in him shall notperish (apollymi), but have eternal life(John 3:16).
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Are ‘destroy’ & ‘perish’ figurative?
Traditionalists emphasize that ‘destroy’and ‘perish’ (apollymi) sometimes havefigurative meanings:
ruined wineskins (Matt 9:17)
spoiled food (John 6:12)
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destroy / perish (apollymi)
• The disciples about to perish in storm (Matt
8:25);
• Pharisees seek to destroy Jesus (Matt 12:14);
• one loses life trying to save it (Matt 16:25);
• vineyard owner executes murderous tenants
(Matt 21:41);
• troops sent to destroy murderers (Matt 22:7);
• one perishes by the sword (Matt 26:52);
• crowd asks to destroy Jesus (Matt 27:20) >>>
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destroy / perish (apollymi)
• better that one man die than for whole nation to
perish (John 11:50);
• Insurrectionist/false messiah perished at hands
of Rome (Acts 5:37);
• Israelites perish in the wilderness (1 Cor 10:9-
10), or were destroyed there (Jude 5);
• some perished in the rebellion of Korah (Jude
11).
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Greek scholar and New Testamenttranslator R. F. Weymouth wrote:
“My mind fails to conceive a grossermisinterpretation of language than whenthe five or six strongest words which theGreek tongue possesses, signifying‘destroy,’ or ‘destruction,’ are explained tomean maintaining an everlasting butwretched existence. To translate black aswhite is nothing to this.”
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what about
other phrases
thought to suggest
conscious
unending
torment?
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(seven times)
GNASHING OF TEETH
Matt 8:11-12 expelled to outer darkness
Matt 22:13 expelled to outer darkness
Matt 25:30 expelled to outer darkness
Luke 13:28 expelled from kingdomMatt 24:50-51 expelled (after cut in pieces/severed)
Matt 13:40-42 expelled to furnace of fire
Matt 13:49-50 expelled to furnace of fire
(weeping and gnashing of teeth)
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Gnashingof teeth
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“. . . your fathers . . . killed [the prophets] who .
. . announced the coming of the Righteous
One, whose betrayers and murderers you have
now become;
[T]hey were cut to the quick, and . . . began
gnashing their teeth at him. (Acts 7:52, 54)
Not Pain but Rage
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Gnashingof teeth____________________________________
The wicked will see [the righteous re-warded] and be vexed, He will gnash his teeth and melt away; The desire of the wicked will perish.
(Psalm 112:10)
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eternal punishment
(Matt 25:46)
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•‘Eternal’ is a quality of the ageto come
(aion, aionios)
eternal salvation (Heb 5:6)
eternal redemption (Heb 9:1)
eternal destruction ( 2 Thes 1:9)
eternal judgment (Heb 6:2)
eternal punishment (Matt 25:46)
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2. ‘Eternal’ results that do not end
eternal salvation (Heb 5:6)
eternal redemption (Heb 9:1)
eternal destruction ( 2 Thes 1:9)
eternal judgment (Heb 6:2)
eternal punishment (Matt 25:46)
Parable of the Sheep and Goats:“Then they will go away to eternalpunishment, but the righteous toeternal life.”
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eternal punishment
but what is punishment?
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Punishment: the penal conse-quences of wrongdoing, imposedunder the law by a person withjudicial authority.
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MIGHT BE:
Fine -- Jail -- Prison -- Capital punishment
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eternal punishment defined
[T]he Lord Jesus shall be revealedfrom heaven with his mighty angels,in flaming fire taking ven-geance onthem that know not God, and thatobey not the gospel of our LordJesus Christ: who shall bepunished with everlastingdestruction . . . . (2 Thes 1:7-9KJV)
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Result is ‘eternal’ -- not the process
‘When a very serious crime is punished
by death, and the execution of the
sentence takes only a minute, no laws
consider that minute as the measure of
the punishment, but rather the fact that
the criminal is forever removed from
the community of the living.’
– St. Augustine
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eternal fire
(Matt 25:41)
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1. eternal-quality fire
2. Unending-result fire
Sodom and Gomorrah . . . areexhibited as an example inundergoing the punishment ofeternal fire (Jude 7).
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Summary -- rest of N.T.
New Testament
James
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JAMES
• Death (1:15)
• Destruction (4:12)
• Riches consume flesh like fire (5:3)
• Fattened for day of slaughter (5:5)
• Death (5:19)
Which view most resembles this ?
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New Testament
Acts
Apostolic Sermons
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ACTSOnly three references to final judgment
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* God has appointed a day when he willjudge the world fairly by [Jesus] (17:30-31).
* Paul discussed righteousness, self-control and judgment to come with Felix,who became frightened (24:25).
* Whoever does not listen to Jesus“shall be utterly destroyed from among thepeople” (3:23, Peter quotes Deut 18).
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ACTS: ONE WORD ONLY‘Utterly destroyed from among the people’
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Exolothreuo = ‘to destroy utterly, root out”
OT: (Greek version used by early church):
* Regular word for capital punishment
* word used in Flood story
NT: Destroyer (1 Cor 10:10; Heb 11:28)
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New Testament
Paul
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PAULdeath (Rom 6:23)
perish (Rom 2:12)
destruction (1 Cor 3:17; Phil 1:28; 3:19)
eternal destruction (2 Thes 1:9)
Also . . .
Wrath, anger, trouble, distress (Rom 2:6ff)
anathema/accursed (Gal 1:9; 1 Cor 16:22)
not enter God’s kingdom (Eph 5:5-6)
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New Testament
Hebrews
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HEBREWS
worse than physical death (2:2-3)
cursed and burned (6:8)
raging fire that consumes (10:27-31)
destroyed (10:39)
consuming fire (12:29)
More like view #1, #2, or #3?
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New Testament
Peter & Jude
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PETER & JUDE
destroy/perish (2 Pet 2:12)
blackest darkness (Jude 13)
like Flood like Sodom
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New Testament
John
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John
LAKE OF FIRE (AND BRIMSTONE)
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But for the cowardly and unbelieving,
[etc.] , their part will be in the lakethat burns with fire and brimstone… (Rev 21:8).
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ORIGIN -- Then the LORD rained on
Sodom and Gomorrah brimstone andfire (Gen 19:24-25).
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John
SECOND DEATH
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But for the cowardly and unbelieving,
[etc.] , their part will be in the lakethat burns with fire and brimstone,
which IS the second death (Rev
21:8)._________________________________
CONTRAST
Names in “Book of Life” (Revelation)
“Eternal life” (Johannine generally)
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JOHN
SMOKE ASCENDING
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SOURCE:
Abraham arose early in themorning ... and he looked downtoward Sodom and Gomorrah, and. . . the smoke of the landascended like the smoke of afurnace (Gen 19:27-28).
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JOHN
SMOKE ASCENDING FOREVER
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SOURCE:
Its streams will be turned into pitch, and
its loose earth into brimstone, and its
land will become burning pitch. It will not
be quenched night or day; Its smokewill go up forever. From generation to
generation it will be desolate . . . And
He will stretch over it the line of
desolation and the plumb line of
emptiness (Isa 34:8-11).
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If the traditional doctrine ofeverlasting torture is not
required by Scripture . . .
WHERE did it come from?HOW did it become so
widespread?
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The answers are clear, in …
Church History
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Greek philosophy
vs.
Bible teaching(conditional immortality)
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SOCRATES & PLATO
Every human
has a mortal
body, inhab-
ited by an
immortal
soul . . . .
469-399 B.C. 424-348 B.C.
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THE BIBLE PORTRAYS . . .
The human creature as wholly mortal
EARTH (BODY) + BREATH (SPIRIT)
LIVING BEING (SOUL)
Then the LORD God formed man of dust from the
ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of
life; and man became a living being (Gen 2:7).
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God “alone possesses immortality”
(1 Tim 6:16).
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HUMAN IMMORTALITY
Always Never
Saved Lost
Whole Person Naked Soul
or Spirit
Resurrection Creation or now
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We hear from …
Apostolic Fathers
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New Testament
Restored biblical (O.T.) teaching
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Apostolic Fathers
Didache, Barnabas, Ignatius, Clement
teach a fire that consumes
(Limited to biblical language)
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We hear from …
Apologists
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Apologists
Converted Greek Philosophers, broughtpagan doctrine of immortal souls intoChristian church.
Athenagoras (127-190 A.D.)
Tertullian (born 160 A.D.)
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Athenagoras (127-190 A.D.)
PLATO FIRST GOES
TO CHURCH
"Since the causeof man's creationis …perpetual existence, [he] must be preservedforever."
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Tertullian (160-200? A.D.)
SOUL DOES NOT
NEED SAVING
BECAUSE IT IS
IMMORTAL
ALREADY
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Tertullian (160-200? A.D.)
Matt 10:28 doesnot mean that God will really destroy the soul,for souls are immortal and can-not be destroyed.
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We hear from …
St. Augustine
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St. Augustine(354-430 A.D.)
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Answered pagan
critics who denied
possibility of eternal
burning.
Endorsed Tertullian's view – set 'orthodoxy.'
Least scriptural part of The City of God.
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We hear from …
Dante Alighieri
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Dante Alighieri (14th c.)
Inferno, or (Divine) Comedy
“Cold as hell?”
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We must finally ask …
BIBLE
Why it matters
Church History
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Why it matters?
• NOT salvation issue …
• NOT fellowship issue …
• nevertheless important, because:
• we speak in God’s name
• this impacts evangelism
• it speaks about God’s character
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The teaching we have
examined today is not
tricky,difficult, or
complicated.
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IN FACT,you already know
two Scripture versesthat say it all . . .
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The wages of sin is death, but
the gift of God is eternal life,through Jesus Christ our Lord.
(Rom 6:23)
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“For God so loved the world
that he gave his one and onlySon, that whoever believes in
him shall not perish but have
eternal life.(John 3:16)
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LIFE OR DEATH