From: Stewart, Ed (FAA)To: Bumberger, Michael (FAA)Subject: FW: Stadium TFRDate: Friday, September 29, 2017 2:28:56 PM

This was Janet’s response. Manager, Law Enforcement Assistance Program (AHW-320)Investigations and Law Enforcement Assistance Program DivisionJoint Security & Hazardous Materials Safety Office, WestFederal Aviation Administration1601 Lind Ave S.W., Ste 530Renton, WA 98057Desk: 425-227-1217Fax: 425-227-1700

From: Riffe, Janet (FAA) Sent: Friday, September 29, 2017 2:25 PMTo: Stewart, Ed (FAA) <Ed.Stewart@faa.gov>Cc: Whitaker-Gray, Pamela (FAA) <Pamela.Whitaker-Gray@faa.gov>Subject: Re: Stadium TFR Thanks Ed. There should be someone at SOSC 24/7. Hopefully they can get some traction onit. I know they are usually pretty strict on sports TFRs but in my mind 3000 seats isn't a bigdifference. Count all the employees and folks tailgating outside and it's gotta be 30K.

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On Sep 29, 2017, at 5:17 PM, Stewart, Ed (FAA) <Ed.Stewart@faa.gov> wrote:

Janet,This is might be getting blown out of portion, the NFL from New York just called Bamconcerning the NFL stadium Stub Hub center near the LA regional office. The stadiumis listed at holding 27000 fans but it can hold more. Roger Goodell apparently will be inattendance this weekend and the NFL is freaking out that cannot get a TFR in place. TheTFR requires the stadium to set 30000 fans or more. Bam is going to try and contactBrian Throop again. If not he will call the WOC to see if he can get contact informationfor HQ ATO Air Space security group to see if he can facilitate a TFR for this game. Thebelow folks that Bam talked to earlier this week basically said the stadium does notmeet the requirements due to the seating capacity or lack of seating capacity. Justwant to keep you in the loop as this may blow up if he cannot help. Bam will keep usposted on what he gets figured out.ThanksEd Manager, Law Enforcement Assistance Program (AHW-320)Investigations and Law Enforcement Assistance Program Division

Joint Security & Hazardous Materials Safety Office, WestFederal Aviation Administration1601 Lind Ave S.W., Ste 530Renton, WA 98057Desk: 425-227-1217Fax: 425-227-1700

From: Bumberger, Michael (FAA) Sent: Monday, September 25, 2017 12:06 PMTo: Stewart, Ed (FAA) <Ed.Stewart@faa.gov>; Riffe, Janet (FAA) <Janet.Riffe@faa.gov>Subject: Stadium TFR Just got off the phone with Brian Throop and Gary Miller. The Stub Hubs Center (LAChargers temporary new home) does not qualify for protection under FDC Notam 7/4319(Stadium TFR), because it lists its capacity as 27000. If Stub Hub Center or the Chargerscan provide proof the stadium can seat more than 30000 than it the TFR will apply. Bam

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From: Lunsford, Lynn (FAA)To: Bumberger, Michael (FAA); Brown, Laura J (FAA)Subject: Re: Please CallDate: Friday, September 29, 2017 5:20:04 PM

Copying Laura Brown.

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On Sep 29, 2017, at 5:45 PM, Bumberger, Michael (FAA) <Michael.Bumberger@faa.gov>wrote:

Lynn,

We have a developing situation here in the west. The LA Chargers have a home gameand the stadium is not covered by a TFR. Local news is reporting about the lack of TFRand an unknown FAA representative was interviewed by the local sports talk radio statingthere was not a tfr in place so planes can fly over the stadium. I received a call from NFLHQ and they are concerned. Please call me , so I can brief you further.

Thank you,Mike

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From: Bumberger, Michael (FAA)To: Stewart, Ed (FAA)Subject: RE: Stadium TFRDate: Monday, September 25, 2017 12:26:42 PM

thank you

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From: Stewart, Ed (FAA)Sent: Monday, September 25, 2017 12:26 PMTo: Bumberger, Michael (FAA)Subject: RE: Stadium TFR

Okay, thanks I’ll tell Byron to dis-regard. Manager, Law Enforcement Assistance Program (AHW-320)Investigations and Law Enforcement Assistance Program DivisionJoint Security & Hazardous Materials Safety Office, WestFederal Aviation Administration1601 Lind Ave S.W., Ste 530Renton, WA 98057Desk: 425-227-1217Fax: 425-227-1700 From: Bumberger, Michael (FAA) Sent: Monday, September 25, 2017 12:06 PMTo: Stewart, Ed (FAA) <Ed.Stewart@faa.gov>; Riffe, Janet (FAA) <Janet.Riffe@faa.gov>Subject: Stadium TFR Just got off the phone with Brian Throop and Gary Miller. The Stub Hubs Center (LA Chargers temporarynew home) does not qualify for protection under FDC Notam 7/4319 (Stadium TFR), because it lists itscapacity as 27000. If Stub Hub Center or the Chargers can provide proof the stadium can seat morethan 30000 than it the TFR will apply. Bam

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From: Stewart, Ed (FAA)To: Bumberger, Michael (FAA)Subject: RE: Stadium TFRDate: Monday, September 25, 2017 12:27:19 PM

Okay so it’s up to Stub Hubs to provide the data to support their coverage of the TFR.ThanksEd Manager, Law Enforcement Assistance Program (AHW-320)Investigations and Law Enforcement Assistance Program DivisionJoint Security & Hazardous Materials Safety Office, WestFederal Aviation Administration1601 Lind Ave S.W., Ste 530Renton, WA 98057Desk: 425-227-1217Fax: 425-227-1700

From: Bumberger, Michael (FAA) Sent: Monday, September 25, 2017 12:06 PMTo: Stewart, Ed (FAA) <Ed.Stewart@faa.gov>; Riffe, Janet (FAA) <Janet.Riffe@faa.gov>Subject: Stadium TFR Just got off the phone with Brian Throop and Gary Miller. The Stub Hubs Center (LA Chargers temporarynew home) does not qualify for protection under FDC Notam 7/4319 (Stadium TFR), because it lists itscapacity as 27000. If Stub Hub Center or the Chargers can provide proof the stadium can seat morethan 30000 than it the TFR will apply. Bam

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From: Throop, Brian (FAA)To: Bumberger, Michael (FAA)Cc: Miller, Gary W (FAA)Subject: Re: Stub HubDate: Monday, September 25, 2017 5:03:40 PM

Hey Mike. The request would need to come from federal law enforcement and cite a specificcredible threat against the event. Absent that, they would need to articulate a legitimate safetyissue from overflight traffic that might warrant a TFR. That request would go to the ServiceArea for consideration. Hope that helps. Brian

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On Sep 25, 2017, at 3:10 PM, Bumberger, Michael (FAA) <Michael.Bumberger@faa.gov>wrote:

Thank you for providing clarification. One anticipated question: If the Stu Hub cannotprovide documented proof of an official capacity over 30000 can the NFL, Chargers, or theStub Hub apply for a TFR each home game? Would it be approved?

Thank you once again,Mike

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From: Bumberger, Michael (FAA)To: Throop, Brian (FAA)Subject: RE: Stub HubDate: Friday, September 29, 2017 6:31:45 AM

Thank you Brian

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From: Throop, Brian (FAA)Sent: Thursday, September 28, 2017 5:25 PMTo: Bumberger, Michael (FAA)Cc: Miller, Gary W (FAA)Subject: Re: Stub Hub

Hey Mike. Sorry for the delay. We've been swamped. The bottom line is that if the officialsitting capacity is 30,000 or more and a regular-season NFL game is taking place, then It iscovered by the stadium TFR. I would suggest they make that change as quickly as possibleand then get with local flight standards to socialize this with the local aviation community.One thing you mentioned, though, bears clarification. Under the provisions of the law aircraftlanding or taking off from those local airports near the stadium would be permitted to transitthe air space provided they are on what could be considered a routine air traffic approach orarrival procedure. I didn't want them to think if the TFR goes up that they won't see anyairplanes. Hope that helps. Brian.

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On Sep 27, 2017, at 11:34 PM, Bumberger, Michael (FAA) <Michael.Bumberger@faa.gov>wrote:

Gents,

I attended a meeting a few hours ago at the StubHub Center. The information on theirweb site indicates 27,000 seats. They provided further clarification. Originally for soccerthe seating capacity was 27000. When the Chargers decided to move from San Diego toLos Angeles the StubHub was chosen as a temporary site until the new stadium was built. To accommodate more fans extra seating was installed in the north end zone andsoutheast corner of the stadium giving the facility a seating capacity of greater than 30000.The 27000 on the website has nothing to do with fire marshal capacity rating, only the

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original seating configuration. I was given a tour of the facility and can confirm that newseating was installed. I have made a suggestion for the operators of the Stub Hub Centerto indicate the change on their web site. If a web site change was made to indicate aseating capacity of 27000 for soccer and 30000+ for football, would this work to cover theChargers for home games under 7/4319.

The FBI and NFL security brought up a few good point, regardless of the seating capacitywith all the fans and support personnel the facility has over 300000 present for the games.Being the game is nationally televised and can be argued as a high profile event, thismakes for a prime opportunity for some type of terrorist activity. With 5 airports withinclose proximity I can understand their desire to be included/covered by a TFR.

Thank you,Mike

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From: Throop, Brian (FAA)To: Bumberger, Michael (FAA)Cc: Morrissey, Nathan P (FAA); Gregor, Ian (FAA); Brown, Laura J (FAA); Kenitzer, Allen (FAA); Holtzman, Joshua (FAA);

Stewart, Ed (FAA); Riffe, Janet (FAA)Subject: Re: Stub Hub Center TFRDate: Wednesday, October 04, 2017 10:51:27 AM

Thanks Mike

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On Oct 4, 2017, at 1:07 PM, Bumberger, Michael (FAA) <Michael.Bumberger@faa.gov> wrote:

The StubHub Center official webpage has been changed to reflect 30000.

Mike

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From: Morrissey, Nathan P (FAA)Sent: Tuesday, October 03, 2017 12:55 PMTo: Bumberger, Michael (FAA); Throop, Brian (FAA); Gregor, Ian (FAA)Cc: Brown, Laura J (FAA); Kenitzer, Allen (FAA); Holtzman, Joshua (FAA)Subject: RE: Stub Hub Center TFR

Thank you Mike. Nate MorrisseyLong Beach FSDO562-283-5647Fax 562-420-6765

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Sent: Tuesday, October 03, 2017 9:20 AMTo: Morrissey, Nathan P (FAA) <Nathan.P.Morrissey@faa.gov>; Throop, Brian (FAA)<brian.throop@faa.gov>; Gregor, Ian (FAA) <Ian.Gregor@faa.gov>Cc: Brown, Laura J (FAA) <laura.j.brown@faa.gov>; Kenitzer, Allen (FAA)<Allen.Kenitzer@faa.gov>; Holtzman, Joshua (FAA) <Joshua.Holtzman@faa.gov>Subject: RE: Stub Hub Center TFR There is not. I attended a meeting on 9/27 and was told by a representative of the StubHuband NFL about the changes made to the stadium when the Chargers moved in. I believe Iexplained this to you yesterday on the phone. As was told to me, the stadium sits on CaliforniaState Land. AEG leases the land the stadium sits on. In the lease California came up with anarbitrary number of no more than 27,000 tickets can be sold for a game (even though thestadium seats more than that). This number is not based on anything more than a contractualagreement.When the Chargers moved to Los Angeles and selected the StubHub Center as their home,more permanent seating was added putting the capacity of the stadium over 30000. This isthe information I provided Brian Throop and was based on my observation of the added seatsand the verbal confirmation I was give by AEG/StubHub representatives. I am continuing to work with NFL Security and AEG/StubHub to get the website changed. Mike

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From: Morrissey, Nathan P (FAA)Sent: Tuesday, October 03, 2017 8:48 AMTo: Throop, Brian (FAA); Gregor, Ian (FAA)Cc: Brown, Laura J (FAA); Kenitzer, Allen (FAA); Bumberger, Michael (FAA); Holtzman, Joshua(FAA)Subject: RE: Stub Hub Center TFR

Hello All, Was there any official written notification from the entities to the FAA stating that thecapacity is different than what is posted on the Stub Hub Center website prior tocommenting to the public via the news article released on Friday? If so can I please have acopy of that? Thank you.

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Nate MorrisseyLong Beach FSDO562-283-5647Fax 562-420-6765

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From: Throop, Brian (FAA) Sent: Monday, October 02, 2017 2:25 PMTo: Gregor, Ian (FAA) <Ian.Gregor@faa.gov>Cc: Brown, Laura J (FAA) <laura.j.brown@faa.gov>; Morrissey, Nathan P (FAA)<Nathan.P.Morrissey@faa.gov>; Kenitzer, Allen (FAA) <Allen.Kenitzer@faa.gov>;Bumberger, Michael (FAA) <Michael.Bumberger@faa.gov>; Holtzman, Joshua (FAA)<Joshua.Holtzman@faa.gov>Subject: Re: Stub Hub Center TFR Hey Folks. Here's some of the backstory. Mike Bumberger(CC'd), ASH Special Agent for that region,has been working with the locals on this issue. Mike contacted me a few days ago andstated that local officials had informed him that, contrary to what is on the website, theseating capacity of the stadium was greater than 30,000 people. Based on thatinformation, any regular or post season NFL game held there would qualify for theSporting Events TFR. I agree that local officials need to both change the misleading. Infoon the website and help conduct outreach to the aviation community. Thanks BrianSent from my iPhone

On Oct 2, 2017, at 1:35 PM, Gregor, Ian (FAA) <Ian.Gregor@faa.gov> wrote:

Brian - Please include me on the explanation. Thanks!

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On Oct 2, 2017, at 10:31 AM, Brown, Laura J (FAA) <laura.j.brown@faa.gov>wrote:

Hi, Nathan. Brian Throop, whom I’m copying here,determined Friday that the stadium’s actual seating capacityis in excess of 30,000. There is some complicatedexplanation about why their website only says 27,000,

which Brian may be able to explain. So, as a result, Brian determined the sporting eventNOTAM applied to Stub Hub. Thanks. Laura J. BrownDeputy Assistant AdministratorFor Public AffairsFederal Aviation Administration

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From: Morrissey, Nathan P (FAA) Sent: Monday, October 02, 2017 1:28 PMTo: Kenitzer, Allen (FAA) <Allen.Kenitzer@faa.gov>; Brown,Laura J (FAA) <laura.j.brown@faa.gov>Cc: Gregor, Ian (FAA) <Ian.Gregor@faa.gov>Subject: RE: Stub Hub Center TFR Hello Allen and Laura, Thank you for the reply. Here is a link for the current FDCNOTAM http://tfr.faa.gov/save_pages/detail_7_4319.html thatcovers sporting events. There would most likely never be aspecific TFR issue to the Stub Hub Center unless high rankinggovernment officials such as the President or VP were going tobe at the venue. Otherwise, the standard FDC NOTAM appliesfor the various types of sporting events. Therefore, one will notsee a specific TFR posted to the TFR website for Stub Hub. When the aviation public is trying to determine if they will be inviolation of the sporting event FDC NOTAM, the onlyinformation they have at hand is looking on the stadiumsspecific website to determine seating capacity. According totheir website http://www.stubhubcenter.com/stadium-info/about-stubhub-center the seating capacity for soccer andfootball is 27,000 in which the FDC NOTAM does not apply. Anyhelp in providing guidance to us on this or any other points ofcontacts are appreciated. Nate MorrisseyLong Beach FSDO562-283-5647Fax 562-420-6765

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From: Kenitzer, Allen (FAA) Sent: Monday, October 02, 2017 10:11 AMTo: Morrissey, Nathan P (FAA) <Nathan.P.Morrissey@faa.gov>;Brown, Laura J (FAA) <laura.j.brown@faa.gov>Cc: Gregor, Ian (FAA) <Ian.Gregor@faa.gov>Subject: RE: Stub Hub Center TFR Nate: thanks for your e-mail. I received word late Fridayfrom, AOC-2, Laura Brown, that the TFR was granted.

I’m including her on this e-mail message. Thanks again.Allen

From: Morrissey, Nathan P (FAA) Sent: Monday, October 02, 2017 10:05 AMTo: Kenitzer, Allen (FAA)Subject: Stub Hub Center TFR Hello Allen, Could you please provide points of contact who aredetermining the seating capacity for the Stub Hub stadium?Stub Hub falls within our district therefore we are tryingdetermine if the general FDC NOTAMS for Sporting Events aregoing to apply since the Stub Hub’s website states the seatingcapacity for football is 27,000. Thank you. Nate MorrisseyLong Beach FSDO562-283-5647Fax 562-420-6765

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From: Kenitzer, Allen (FAA)To: Bumberger, Michael (FAA); Morrissey, Nathan P (FAA); Throop, Brian (FAA); Gregor, Ian (FAA)Cc: Brown, Laura J (FAA); Holtzman, Joshua (FAA); Stewart, Ed (FAA); Riffe, Janet (FAA)Subject: RE: Stub Hub Center TFRDate: Wednesday, October 04, 2017 10:12:36 AM

Thanks From: Bumberger, Michael (FAA) Sent: Wednesday, October 04, 2017 10:07 AMTo: Morrissey, Nathan P (FAA); Throop, Brian (FAA); Gregor, Ian (FAA)Cc: Brown, Laura J (FAA); Kenitzer, Allen (FAA); Holtzman, Joshua (FAA); Stewart, Ed (FAA); Riffe, Janet(FAA)Subject: RE: Stub Hub Center TFR The StubHub Center official webpage has been changed to reflect 30000. Mike

Michael Bumberger Special AgentFederal Aviation Administration Law Enforcement Assistance Program (LEAP)Office: (310) 725-3737Cell: Fax: (310) 725-6660 WARNING: This document may be LAW ENFORCEMENT SENSITIVE (LES) & may be designated FOROFFICIAL USE ONLY (FOUO). It may contain information that may be exempt from public release under theFreedom of Information Act (5 U.S.C. § 552) & controlled under the provisions of 49 CFR 1520. Any unauthorizedreview, use, disclosure, or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the senderby reply e-mail and destroy all copies of the original message.

From: Morrissey, Nathan P (FAA)Sent: Tuesday, October 03, 2017 12:55 PMTo: Bumberger, Michael (FAA); Throop, Brian (FAA); Gregor, Ian (FAA)Cc: Brown, Laura J (FAA); Kenitzer, Allen (FAA); Holtzman, Joshua (FAA)Subject: RE: Stub Hub Center TFR

Thank you Mike.  Nate MorrisseyLong Beach FSDO562-283-5647Fax 562-420-6765

http://www.faa.gov/about/office_org/headquarters_offices/avs/offices/afs/qms/LGB FSDO isdedicated to quality service, and we continuously seek to improve our services to you. Pleaseprovide your feedback with any suggestions improvements. We value your opinion.

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From: Bumberger, Michael (FAA) Sent: Tuesday, October 03, 2017 9:20 AMTo: Morrissey, Nathan P (FAA) <Nathan.P.Morrissey@faa.gov>; Throop, Brian (FAA)<brian.throop@faa.gov>; Gregor, Ian (FAA) <Ian.Gregor@faa.gov>Cc: Brown, Laura J (FAA) <laura.j.brown@faa.gov>; Kenitzer, Allen (FAA) <Allen.Kenitzer@faa.gov>;Holtzman, Joshua (FAA) <Joshua.Holtzman@faa.gov>Subject: RE: Stub Hub Center TFR There is not. I attended a meeting on 9/27 and was told by a representative of the StubHub and NFLabout the changes made to the stadium when the Chargers moved in. I believe I explained this to youyesterday on the phone. As was told to me, the stadium sits on California State Land. AEG leases theland the stadium sits on. In the lease California came up with an arbitrary number of no more than27,000 tickets can be sold for a game (even though the stadium seats more than that). This number isnot based on anything more than a contractual agreement.When the Chargers moved to Los Angeles and selected the StubHub Center as their home, morepermanent seating was added putting the capacity of the stadium over 30000. This is the information Iprovided Brian Throop and was based on my observation of the added seats and the verbalconfirmation I was give by AEG/StubHub representatives. I am continuing to work with NFL Security and AEG/StubHub to get the website changed. Mike

Michael Bumberger Special AgentFederal Aviation Administration Law Enforcement Assistance Program (LEAP)Office: (310) 725-3737Cell: Fax: (310) 725-6660 WARNING: This document may be LAW ENFORCEMENT SENSITIVE (LES) & may be designated FOROFFICIAL USE ONLY (FOUO). It may contain information that may be exempt from public release under theFreedom of Information Act (5 U.S.C. § 552) & controlled under the provisions of 49 CFR 1520. Any unauthorizedreview, use, disclosure, or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the senderby reply e-mail and destroy all copies of the original message.

From: Morrissey, Nathan P (FAA)Sent: Tuesday, October 03, 2017 8:48 AMTo: Throop, Brian (FAA); Gregor, Ian (FAA)Cc: Brown, Laura J (FAA); Kenitzer, Allen (FAA); Bumberger, Michael (FAA); Holtzman, Joshua (FAA)Subject: RE: Stub Hub Center TFR

Hello All, Was there any official written notification from the entities to the FAA stating that the capacity isdifferent than what is posted on the Stub Hub Center website prior to commenting to the public viathe news article released on Friday?  If so can I please have a copy of that?  Thank you.

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 Nate MorrisseyLong Beach FSDO562-283-5647Fax 562-420-6765

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From: Throop, Brian (FAA) Sent: Monday, October 02, 2017 2:25 PMTo: Gregor, Ian (FAA) <Ian.Gregor@faa.gov>Cc: Brown, Laura J (FAA) <laura.j.brown@faa.gov>; Morrissey, Nathan P (FAA)<Nathan.P.Morrissey@faa.gov>; Kenitzer, Allen (FAA) <Allen.Kenitzer@faa.gov>; Bumberger,Michael (FAA) <Michael.Bumberger@faa.gov>; Holtzman, Joshua (FAA) <Joshua.Holtzman@faa.gov>Subject: Re: Stub Hub Center TFR Hey Folks.  Here's some of the backstory.  Mike Bumberger(CC'd), ASH Special Agent for that region, has beenworking with the locals on this issue.  Mike contacted me a few days ago and stated that localofficials had informed him that, contrary to what is on the website, the seating capacity of thestadium was greater than 30,000 people.  Based on that information, any regular or post season NFLgame held there would qualify for the Sporting Events TFR.  I agree that local officials need to bothchange the misleading. Info on the website and help conduct outreach to the aviation community.   Thanks BrianSent from my iPhone

On Oct 2, 2017, at 1:35 PM, Gregor, Ian (FAA) <Ian.Gregor@faa.gov> wrote:

Brian - Please include me on the explanation. Thanks!

Sent from my iPad

On Oct 2, 2017, at 10:31 AM, Brown, Laura J (FAA) <laura.j.brown@faa.gov> wrote:

Hi, Nathan. Brian Throop, whom I’m copying here, determinedFriday that the stadium’s actual seating capacity is in excess of30,000. There is some complicated explanation about why theirwebsite only says 27,000, which Brian may be able to explain. So, as a result, Brian determined the sporting event NOTAM appliedto Stub Hub.

Thanks. Laura J. BrownDeputy Assistant AdministratorFor Public AffairsFederal Aviation Administration

202-267-3455 W C

  From: Morrissey, Nathan P (FAA) Sent: Monday, October 02, 2017 1:28 PMTo: Kenitzer, Allen (FAA) <Allen.Kenitzer@faa.gov>; Brown, Laura J (FAA)<laura.j.brown@faa.gov>Cc: Gregor, Ian (FAA) <Ian.Gregor@faa.gov>Subject: RE: Stub Hub Center TFR Hello Allen and Laura, Thank you for the reply.  Here is a link for the current FDC NOTAMhttp://tfr.faa.gov/save_pages/detail_7_4319.html that covers sportingevents.  There would most likely never be a specific TFR issue to the StubHub Center unless high ranking government officials such as the Presidentor VP were going to be at the venue.  Otherwise, the standard FDCNOTAM applies for the various types of sporting events.  Therefore, onewill not see a specific TFR posted to the TFR website for Stub Hub.  Whenthe aviation public is trying to determine if they will be in violation of thesporting event FDC NOTAM, the only information they have at hand islooking on the stadiums specific website to determine seating capacity. According to their website http://www.stubhubcenter.com/stadium-info/about-stubhub-center the seating capacity for soccer and football is27,000 in which the FDC NOTAM does not apply.  Any help in providingguidance to us on this or any other points of contacts are appreciated. Nate MorrisseyLong Beach FSDO562-283-5647Fax 562-420-6765

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From: Kenitzer, Allen (FAA) Sent: Monday, October 02, 2017 10:11 AMTo: Morrissey, Nathan P (FAA) <Nathan.P.Morrissey@faa.gov>; Brown,Laura J (FAA) <laura.j.brown@faa.gov>Cc: Gregor, Ian (FAA) <Ian.Gregor@faa.gov>Subject: RE: Stub Hub Center TFR Nate: thanks for your e-mail. I received word late Friday from,AOC-2, Laura Brown, that the TFR was granted.

I’m including her on this e-mail message. Thanks again.Allen From: Morrissey, Nathan P (FAA) Sent: Monday, October 02, 2017 10:05 AMTo: Kenitzer, Allen (FAA)Subject: Stub Hub Center TFR Hello Allen, Could you please provide points of contact who are determining theseating capacity for the Stub Hub stadium? Stub Hub falls within ourdistrict therefore we are trying determine if the general FDC NOTAMS forSporting Events are going to apply since the Stub Hub’s website states theseating capacity for football is 27,000.  Thank you. Nate MorrisseyLong Beach FSDO562-283-5647Fax 562-420-6765

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From: Morrissey, Nathan P (FAA)To: Bumberger, Michael (FAA)Subject: RE: Stub Hub Center TFRDate: Thursday, October 05, 2017 7:04:53 AM

Thanks Mike. Nate MorrisseyLong Beach FSDO562-283-5647Fax 562-420-6765

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From: Bumberger, Michael (FAA) Sent: Thursday, October 05, 2017 6:58 AMTo: Morrissey, Nathan P (FAA) <Nathan.P.Morrissey@faa.gov>Subject: RE: Stub Hub Center TFR I will make the suggestion. AEG utilizes a contractor for webpage and internet support. Mike

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From: Morrissey, Nathan P (FAA)Sent: Wednesday, October 04, 2017 10:15 AMTo: Bumberger, Michael (FAA)Subject: RE: Stub Hub Center TFR

Hello Mike. Could you also suggest they update their Google Business page? Attached is a screenshot. They can go in and edit quickly. That would help for those that will not go to the Stub Hub’sCenter specific website. Thank you.

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Nate MorrisseyLong Beach FSDO562-283-5647Fax 562-420-6765

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From: Bumberger, Michael (FAA) Sent: Wednesday, October 04, 2017 10:07 AMTo: Morrissey, Nathan P (FAA) <Nathan.P.Morrissey@faa.gov>; Throop, Brian (FAA)<brian.throop@faa.gov>; Gregor, Ian (FAA) <Ian.Gregor@faa.gov>Cc: Brown, Laura J (FAA) <laura.j.brown@faa.gov>; Kenitzer, Allen (FAA) <Allen.Kenitzer@faa.gov>;Holtzman, Joshua (FAA) <Joshua.Holtzman@faa.gov>; Stewart, Ed (FAA) <Ed.Stewart@faa.gov>;Riffe, Janet (FAA) <Janet.Riffe@faa.gov>Subject: RE: Stub Hub Center TFR The StubHub Center official webpage has been changed to reflect 30000. Mike

Michael Bumberger Special AgentFederal Aviation Administration Law Enforcement Assistance Program (LEAP)Office: (310) 725-3737Cell: Fax: (310) 725-6660 WARNING: This document may be LAW ENFORCEMENT SENSITIVE (LES) & may be designated FOROFFICIAL USE ONLY (FOUO). It may contain information that may be exempt from public release under theFreedom of Information Act (5 U.S.C. § 552) & controlled under the provisions of 49 CFR 1520. Any unauthorizedreview, use, disclosure, or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the senderby reply e-mail and destroy all copies of the original message.

From: Morrissey, Nathan P (FAA)Sent: Tuesday, October 03, 2017 12:55 PMTo: Bumberger, Michael (FAA); Throop, Brian (FAA); Gregor, Ian (FAA)Cc: Brown, Laura J (FAA); Kenitzer, Allen (FAA); Holtzman, Joshua (FAA)Subject: RE: Stub Hub Center TFR

Thank you Mike. Nate MorrisseyLong Beach FSDO

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562-283-5647Fax 562-420-6765

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From: Bumberger, Michael (FAA) Sent: Tuesday, October 03, 2017 9:20 AMTo: Morrissey, Nathan P (FAA) <Nathan.P.Morrissey@faa.gov>; Throop, Brian (FAA)<brian.throop@faa.gov>; Gregor, Ian (FAA) <Ian.Gregor@faa.gov>Cc: Brown, Laura J (FAA) <laura.j.brown@faa.gov>; Kenitzer, Allen (FAA) <Allen.Kenitzer@faa.gov>;Holtzman, Joshua (FAA) <Joshua.Holtzman@faa.gov>Subject: RE: Stub Hub Center TFR There is not. I attended a meeting on 9/27 and was told by a representative of the StubHub and NFLabout the changes made to the stadium when the Chargers moved in. I believe I explained this to youyesterday on the phone. As was told to me, the stadium sits on California State Land. AEG leases theland the stadium sits on. In the lease California came up with an arbitrary number of no more than27,000 tickets can be sold for a game (even though the stadium seats more than that). This number isnot based on anything more than a contractual agreement.When the Chargers moved to Los Angeles and selected the StubHub Center as their home, morepermanent seating was added putting the capacity of the stadium over 30000. This is the information Iprovided Brian Throop and was based on my observation of the added seats and the verbalconfirmation I was give by AEG/StubHub representatives. I am continuing to work with NFL Security and AEG/StubHub to get the website changed. Mike

Michael Bumberger Special AgentFederal Aviation Administration Law Enforcement Assistance Program (LEAP)Office: (310) 725-3737Cell: Fax: (310) 725-6660 WARNING: This document may be LAW ENFORCEMENT SENSITIVE (LES) & may be designated FOROFFICIAL USE ONLY (FOUO). It may contain information that may be exempt from public release under theFreedom of Information Act (5 U.S.C. § 552) & controlled under the provisions of 49 CFR 1520. Any unauthorizedreview, use, disclosure, or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the senderby reply e-mail and destroy all copies of the original message.

From: Morrissey, Nathan P (FAA)Sent: Tuesday, October 03, 2017 8:48 AMTo: Throop, Brian (FAA); Gregor, Ian (FAA)Cc: Brown, Laura J (FAA); Kenitzer, Allen (FAA); Bumberger, Michael (FAA); Holtzman, Joshua (FAA)Subject: RE: Stub Hub Center TFR

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Hello All, Was there any official written notification from the entities to the FAA stating that the capacity isdifferent than what is posted on the Stub Hub Center website prior to commenting to the public viathe news article released on Friday? If so can I please have a copy of that? Thank you. Nate MorrisseyLong Beach FSDO562-283-5647Fax 562-420-6765

http://www.faa.gov/about/office_org/headquarters_offices/avs/offices/afs/qms/LGB FSDO isdedicated to quality service, and we continuously seek to improve our services to you. Pleaseprovide your feedback with any suggestions improvements. We value your opinion.

From: Throop, Brian (FAA) Sent: Monday, October 02, 2017 2:25 PMTo: Gregor, Ian (FAA) <Ian.Gregor@faa.gov>Cc: Brown, Laura J (FAA) <laura.j.brown@faa.gov>; Morrissey, Nathan P (FAA)<Nathan.P.Morrissey@faa.gov>; Kenitzer, Allen (FAA) <Allen.Kenitzer@faa.gov>; Bumberger,Michael (FAA) <Michael.Bumberger@faa.gov>; Holtzman, Joshua (FAA) <Joshua.Holtzman@faa.gov>Subject: Re: Stub Hub Center TFR Hey Folks. Here's some of the backstory. Mike Bumberger(CC'd), ASH Special Agent for that region, has beenworking with the locals on this issue. Mike contacted me a few days ago and stated that localofficials had informed him that, contrary to what is on the website, the seating capacity of thestadium was greater than 30,000 people. Based on that information, any regular or post season NFLgame held there would qualify for the Sporting Events TFR. I agree that local officials need to bothchange the misleading. Info on the website and help conduct outreach to the aviation community. Thanks BrianSent from my iPhone

On Oct 2, 2017, at 1:35 PM, Gregor, Ian (FAA) <Ian.Gregor@faa.gov> wrote:

Brian - Please include me on the explanation. Thanks!

Sent from my iPad

On Oct 2, 2017, at 10:31 AM, Brown, Laura J (FAA) <laura.j.brown@faa.gov> wrote:

Hi, Nathan. Brian Throop, whom I’m copying here, determinedFriday that the stadium’s actual seating capacity is in excess of

30,000. There is some complicated explanation about why theirwebsite only says 27,000, which Brian may be able to explain. So, as a result, Brian determined the sporting event NOTAM appliedto Stub Hub. Thanks. Laura J. BrownDeputy Assistant AdministratorFor Public AffairsFederal Aviation Administration

202-267-3455 W C

From: Morrissey, Nathan P (FAA) Sent: Monday, October 02, 2017 1:28 PMTo: Kenitzer, Allen (FAA) <Allen.Kenitzer@faa.gov>; Brown, Laura J (FAA)<laura.j.brown@faa.gov>Cc: Gregor, Ian (FAA) <Ian.Gregor@faa.gov>Subject: RE: Stub Hub Center TFR Hello Allen and Laura, Thank you for the reply. Here is a link for the current FDC NOTAMhttp://tfr.faa.gov/save_pages/detail_7_4319.html that covers sportingevents. There would most likely never be a specific TFR issue to the StubHub Center unless high ranking government officials such as the Presidentor VP were going to be at the venue. Otherwise, the standard FDCNOTAM applies for the various types of sporting events. Therefore, onewill not see a specific TFR posted to the TFR website for Stub Hub. Whenthe aviation public is trying to determine if they will be in violation of thesporting event FDC NOTAM, the only information they have at hand islooking on the stadiums specific website to determine seating capacity. According to their website http://www.stubhubcenter.com/stadium-info/about-stubhub-center the seating capacity for soccer and football is27,000 in which the FDC NOTAM does not apply. Any help in providingguidance to us on this or any other points of contacts are appreciated. Nate MorrisseyLong Beach FSDO562-283-5647Fax 562-420-6765

http://www.faa.gov/about/office_org/headquarters_offices/avs/offices/afs/qms/LGB

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FSDO is dedicated to quality service, and we continuously seek to improveour services to you. Please provide your feedback with any suggestionsimprovements. We value your opinion.

From: Kenitzer, Allen (FAA) Sent: Monday, October 02, 2017 10:11 AMTo: Morrissey, Nathan P (FAA) <Nathan.P.Morrissey@faa.gov>; Brown,Laura J (FAA) <laura.j.brown@faa.gov>Cc: Gregor, Ian (FAA) <Ian.Gregor@faa.gov>Subject: RE: Stub Hub Center TFR Nate: thanks for your e-mail. I received word late Friday from,AOC-2, Laura Brown, that the TFR was granted.

I’m including her on this e-mail message. Thanks again.Allen From: Morrissey, Nathan P (FAA) Sent: Monday, October 02, 2017 10:05 AMTo: Kenitzer, Allen (FAA)Subject: Stub Hub Center TFR Hello Allen, Could you please provide points of contact who are determining theseating capacity for the Stub Hub stadium? Stub Hub falls within ourdistrict therefore we are trying determine if the general FDC NOTAMS forSporting Events are going to apply since the Stub Hub’s website states theseating capacity for football is 27,000. Thank you. Nate MorrisseyLong Beach FSDO562-283-5647Fax 562-420-6765

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From: Throop, Brian (FAA)Sent: Wednesday, October 04, 2017 10:51 AMTo: Bumberger, Michael (FAA)Cc: Morrissey, Nathan P (FAA); Gregor, Ian (FAA); Brown, Laura J (FAA); Kenitzer, Allen

(FAA); Holtzman, Joshua (FAA); Stewart, Ed (FAA); Riffe, Janet (FAA)Subject: Re: Stub Hub Center TFR

Thanks Mike   Sent from my iPhone  On Oct 4, 2017, at 1:07 PM, Bumberger, Michael (FAA) <Michael.Bumberger@faa.gov> wrote: 

The StubHub Center official webpage has been changed to reflect 30000. Mike

Michael Bumberger   Special Agent Federal Aviation Administration Law Enforcement Assistance Program (LEAP) Office: (310) 725-3737

Fax: (310) 725-6660   WARNING: This document may be LAW ENFORCEMENT SENSITIVE (LES) & may be designated FOR OFFICIAL USE ONLY (FOUO). It may contain information that may be exempt from public release under the Freedom of Information Act (5 U.S.C. § 552) & controlled under the provisions of 49 CFR 1520. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure, or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply e-mail and destroy all copies of the original message.

From: Morrissey, Nathan P (FAA) Sent: Tuesday, October 03, 2017 12:55 PM To: Bumberger, Michael (FAA); Throop, Brian (FAA); Gregor, Ian (FAA) Cc: Brown, Laura J (FAA); Kenitzer, Allen (FAA); Holtzman, Joshua (FAA) Subject: RE: Stub Hub Center TFR

Thank you Mike.     Nate Morrissey Long Beach FSDO 562‐283‐5647 Fax 562‐420‐6765 http://www.faa.gov/about/office_org/headquarters_offices/avs/offices/afs/qms/LGB FSDO is dedicated to quality service, and we continuously seek to improve our services to you. Please provide your feedback with any suggestions improvements. We value your opinion. 

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From: Bumberger, Michael (FAA)  Sent: Tuesday, October 03, 2017 9:20 AM To: Morrissey, Nathan P (FAA) <Nathan.P.Morrissey@faa.gov>; Throop, Brian (FAA) <brian.throop@faa.gov>; Gregor, Ian (FAA) <Ian.Gregor@faa.gov> Cc: Brown, Laura J (FAA) <laura.j.brown@faa.gov>; Kenitzer, Allen (FAA) <Allen.Kenitzer@faa.gov>; Holtzman, Joshua (FAA) <Joshua.Holtzman@faa.gov> Subject: RE: Stub Hub Center TFR   There is not. I attended a meeting on 9/27 and was told by a representative of the StubHub and NFL about the changes made to the stadium when the Chargers moved in. I believe I explained this to you yesterday on the phone. As was told to me, the stadium sits on California State Land. AEG leases the land the stadium sits on. In the lease California came up with an arbitrary number of no more than 27,000 tickets can be sold for a game (even though the stadium seats more than that). This number is not based on anything more than a contractual agreement.  When the Chargers moved to Los Angeles and selected the StubHub Center as their home, more permanent seating was added putting the capacity of the stadium over 30000. This is the information I provided Brian Throop and was based on my observation of the added seats and the verbal confirmation I was give by AEG/StubHub representatives.  I am continuing to work with NFL Security and AEG/StubHub to get the website changed.     Mike    

Michael Bumberger   

Special Agent Federal Aviation Administration  Law Enforcement Assistance Program (LEAP) Office: (310) 725-3737 

 

Fax: (310) 725-6660   WARNING: This document may be LAW ENFORCEMENT SENSITIVE (LES) & may be designated FOR OFFICIAL USE ONLY (FOUO). It may contain information that may be exempt from public release under the Freedom of Information Act (5 U.S.C. § 552) & controlled under the provisions of 49 CFR 1520. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure, or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply e-mail and destroy all copies of the original message. 

From: Morrissey, Nathan P (FAA) Sent: Tuesday, October 03, 2017 8:48 AM To: Throop, Brian (FAA); Gregor, Ian (FAA) Cc: Brown, Laura J (FAA); Kenitzer, Allen (FAA); Bumberger, Michael (FAA); Holtzman, Joshua (FAA) Subject: RE: Stub Hub Center TFR 

Hello All,   Was there any official written notification from the entities to the FAA stating that the capacity is different than what is posted on the Stub Hub Center website prior to commenting to the public via the news article released on Friday?  If so can I please have a copy of that?  Thank you.   Nate Morrissey 

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Long Beach FSDO 562‐283‐5647 Fax 562‐420‐6765 http://www.faa.gov/about/office_org/headquarters_offices/avs/offices/afs/qms/LGB FSDO is dedicated to quality service, and we continuously seek to improve our services to you. Please provide your feedback with any suggestions improvements. We value your opinion.   

From: Throop, Brian (FAA)  Sent: Monday, October 02, 2017 2:25 PM To: Gregor, Ian (FAA) <Ian.Gregor@faa.gov> Cc: Brown, Laura J (FAA) <laura.j.brown@faa.gov>; Morrissey, Nathan P (FAA) <Nathan.P.Morrissey@faa.gov>; Kenitzer, Allen (FAA) <Allen.Kenitzer@faa.gov>; Bumberger, Michael (FAA) <Michael.Bumberger@faa.gov>; Holtzman, Joshua (FAA) <Joshua.Holtzman@faa.gov> Subject: Re: Stub Hub Center TFR   Hey Folks.   Here's some of the backstory.  Mike Bumberger(CC'd), ASH Special Agent for that region, has been working with the locals on this issue.  Mike contacted me a few days ago and stated that local officials had informed him that, contrary to what is on the website, the seating capacity of the stadium was greater than 30,000 people.  Based on that information, any regular or post season NFL game held there would qualify for the Sporting Events TFR.  I agree that local officials need to both change the misleading. Info on the website and help conduct outreach to the aviation community.    Thanks  Brian Sent from my iPhone  On Oct 2, 2017, at 1:35 PM, Gregor, Ian (FAA) <Ian.Gregor@faa.gov> wrote: 

Brian ‐   Please include me on the explanation. Thanks!  Sent from my iPad  On Oct 2, 2017, at 10:31 AM, Brown, Laura J (FAA) <laura.j.brown@faa.gov> wrote: 

Hi, Nathan. Brian Throop, whom I’m copying here, determined Friday that the stadium’s actual seating capacity is in excess of 30,000. There is some complicated explanation about why their website only says 27,000, which Brian may be able to explain.   So, as a result, Brian determined the sporting event NOTAM applied to Stub Hub.   Thanks.   Laura J. Brown Deputy Assistant Administrator For Public Affairs Federal Aviation Administration 

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From: Morrissey, Nathan P (FAA)  Sent: Monday, October 02, 2017 1:28 PM To: Kenitzer, Allen (FAA) <Allen.Kenitzer@faa.gov>; Brown, Laura J (FAA) <laura.j.brown@faa.gov> Cc: Gregor, Ian (FAA) <Ian.Gregor@faa.gov> Subject: RE: Stub Hub Center TFR   Hello Allen and Laura,   Thank you for the reply.  Here is a link for the current FDC NOTAM http://tfr.faa.gov/save_pages/detail_7_4319.html that covers sporting events.  There would most likely never be a specific TFR issue to the Stub Hub Center unless high ranking government officials such as the President or VP were going to be at the venue.  Otherwise, the standard FDC NOTAM applies for the various types of sporting events.  Therefore, one will not see a specific TFR posted to the TFR website for Stub Hub.  When the aviation public is trying to determine if they will be in violation of the sporting event FDC NOTAM, the only information they have at hand is looking on the stadiums specific website to determine seating capacity.  According to their website http://www.stubhubcenter.com/stadium‐info/about‐stubhub‐center the seating capacity for soccer and football is 27,000 in which the FDC NOTAM does not apply.  Any help in providing guidance to us on this or any other points of contacts are appreciated.   Nate Morrissey Long Beach FSDO 562‐283‐5647 Fax 562‐420‐6765 http://www.faa.gov/about/office_org/headquarters_offices/avs/offices/afs/qms/LGB FSDO is dedicated to quality service, and we continuously seek to improve our services to you. Please provide your feedback with any suggestions improvements. We value your opinion.   

From: Kenitzer, Allen (FAA)  Sent: Monday, October 02, 2017 10:11 AM To: Morrissey, Nathan P (FAA) <Nathan.P.Morrissey@faa.gov>; Brown, Laura J (FAA) <laura.j.brown@faa.gov> Cc: Gregor, Ian (FAA) <Ian.Gregor@faa.gov> Subject: RE: Stub Hub Center TFR   

Nate: thanks for your e-mail. I received word late Friday from, AOC-2, Laura Brown, that the TFR was granted. 

 I’m including her on this e-mail message.   Thanks again. 

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From: Morrissey, Nathan P (FAA) Sent: Monday, October 02, 2017 10:05 AM To: Kenitzer, Allen (FAA) Subject: Stub Hub Center TFR   Hello Allen,   Could you please provide points of contact who are determining the seating capacity for the Stub Hub stadium? Stub Hub falls within our district therefore we are trying determine if the general FDC NOTAMS for Sporting Events are going to apply since the Stub Hub’s website states the seating capacity for football is 27,000.  Thank you.   Nate Morrissey Long Beach FSDO 562‐283‐5647 Fax 562‐420‐6765 http://www.faa.gov/about/office_org/headquarters_offices/avs/offices/afs/qms/LGB FSDO is dedicated to quality service, and we continuously seek to improve our services to you. Please provide your feedback with any suggestions improvements. We value your opinion.   

From: Bumberger, Michael (FAA)To: Theresa.papuyo@ic.fbi.gov; derrellfoxworthSubject: FW: Stub HubDate: Friday, September 29, 2017 9:06:20 AM

Please see HQ's reply. I believe we are good to go as long as Stub Hub management can either receivean approval from the state to change the capacity and/or change the web page. I spoke with Adamabout getting the webpage changed to indicate a 30000 seat capacity. He is going to float the idea andsee what can be done. Give me a call if you have any questions. I am off today, but have my phone with me.

Mike

Michael Bumberger Special AgentFederal Aviation AdministrationInvestigations & Law Enforcement Assistance Program (LEAP), AHW-320Office: (310) 725-3737Cell: Fax: (310) 725-6660 WARNING: This document may be LAW ENFORCEMENT SENSITIVE (LES) & may be designated FOROFFICIAL USE ONLY (FOUO). It may contain information that may be exempt from public release under theFreedom of Information Act (5 U.S.C. § 552) & controlled under the provisions of 49 CFR 1520. Any unauthorizedreview, use, disclosure, or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the senderby reply e-mail and destroy all copies of the original message.

From: Throop, Brian (FAA)Sent: Thursday, September 28, 2017 5:25 PMTo: Bumberger, Michael (FAA)Cc: Miller, Gary W (FAA)Subject: Re: Stub Hub

Hey Mike. Sorry for the delay. We've been swamped. The bottom line is that if the officialsitting capacity is 30,000 or more and a regular-season NFL game is taking place, then It iscovered by the stadium TFR. I would suggest they make that change as quickly as possibleand then get with local flight standards to socialize this with the local aviation community.One thing you mentioned, though, bears clarification. Under the provisions of the law aircraftlanding or taking off from those local airports near the stadium would be permitted to transitthe air space provided they are on what could be considered a routine air traffic approach orarrival procedure. I didn't want them to think if the TFR goes up that they won't see anyairplanes. Hope that helps. Brian.

Sent from my iPhone

On Sep 27, 2017, at 11:34 PM, Bumberger, Michael (FAA) <Michael.Bumberger@faa.gov>wrote:

Gents,

I attended a meeting a few hours ago at the StubHub Center. The information on their

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web site indicates 27,000 seats. They provided further clarification. Originally for soccerthe seating capacity was 27000. When the Chargers decided to move from San Diego toLos Angeles the StubHub was chosen as a temporary site until the new stadium was built. To accommodate more fans extra seating was installed in the north end zone andsoutheast corner of the stadium giving the facility a seating capacity of greater than 30000.The 27000 on the website has nothing to do with fire marshal capacity rating, only theoriginal seating configuration. I was given a tour of the facility and can confirm that newseating was installed. I have made a suggestion for the operators of the Stub Hub Centerto indicate the change on their web site. If a web site change was made to indicate aseating capacity of 27000 for soccer and 30000+ for football, would this work to cover theChargers for home games under 7/4319.

The FBI and NFL security brought up a few good point, regardless of the seating capacitywith all the fans and support personnel the facility has over 300000 present for the games.Being the game is nationally televised and can be argued as a high profile event, thismakes for a prime opportunity for some type of terrorist activity. With 5 airports withinclose proximity I can understand their desire to be included/covered by a TFR.

Thank you,Mike

Michael Bumberger Special AgentFederal Aviation AdministrationInvestigations & Law Enforcement Assistance Program (LEAP), AHW-320Office: (310) 725-3737Cell: Fax: (310) 725-6660 WARNING: This document may be LAW ENFORCEMENT SENSITIVE (LES) & may bedesignated FOR OFFICIAL USE ONLY (FOUO). It may contain information that may be exemptfrom public release under the Freedom of Information Act (5 U.S.C. § 552) & controlled under theprovisions of 49 CFR 1520. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure, or distribution is prohibited.If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply e-mail and destroy all copiesof the original message.

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From: Bumberger, Michael (FAA)To: darrellfoxworthSubject: FW: Stub HubDate: Friday, September 29, 2017 9:07:38 AM

Please see below.... Got your email wrong the first time.

Michael Bumberger Special AgentFederal Aviation AdministrationInvestigations & Law Enforcement Assistance Program (LEAP), AHW-320Office: (310) 725-3737Cell: Fax: (310) 725-6660 WARNING: This document may be LAW ENFORCEMENT SENSITIVE (LES) & may be designated FOROFFICIAL USE ONLY (FOUO). It may contain information that may be exempt from public release under theFreedom of Information Act (5 U.S.C. § 552) & controlled under the provisions of 49 CFR 1520. Any unauthorizedreview, use, disclosure, or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the senderby reply e-mail and destroy all copies of the original message.

From: Bumberger, Michael (FAA)Sent: Friday, September 29, 2017 9:06 AMTo: Theresa.papuyo ; derrellfoxworthSubject: FW: Stub Hub

Please see HQ's reply. I believe we are good to go as long as Stub Hub management can either receivean approval from the state to change the capacity and/or change the web page. I spoke with Adamabout getting the webpage changed to indicate a 30000 seat capacity. He is going to float the idea andsee what can be done. Give me a call if you have any questions. I am off today, but have my phone with me.

Mike

Michael Bumberger Special AgentFederal Aviation AdministrationInvestigations & Law Enforcement Assistance Program (LEAP), AHW-320Office: (310) 725-3737Cell: Fax: (310) 725-6660 WARNING: This document may be LAW ENFORCEMENT SENSITIVE (LES) & may be designated FOROFFICIAL USE ONLY (FOUO). It may contain information that may be exempt from public release under theFreedom of Information Act (5 U.S.C. § 552) & controlled under the provisions of 49 CFR 1520. Any unauthorizedreview, use, disclosure, or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the senderby reply e-mail and destroy all copies of the original message.

From: Throop, Brian (FAA)Sent: Thursday, September 28, 2017 5:25 PMTo: Bumberger, Michael (FAA)

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Cc: Miller, Gary W (FAA)Subject: Re: Stub Hub

Hey Mike. Sorry for the delay. We've been swamped. The bottom line is that if the officialsitting capacity is 30,000 or more and a regular-season NFL game is taking place, then It iscovered by the stadium TFR. I would suggest they make that change as quickly as possibleand then get with local flight standards to socialize this with the local aviation community.One thing you mentioned, though, bears clarification. Under the provisions of the law aircraftlanding or taking off from those local airports near the stadium would be permitted to transitthe air space provided they are on what could be considered a routine air traffic approach orarrival procedure. I didn't want them to think if the TFR goes up that they won't see anyairplanes. Hope that helps. Brian.

Sent from my iPhone

On Sep 27, 2017, at 11:34 PM, Bumberger, Michael (FAA) <Michael.Bumberger@faa.gov>wrote:

Gents,

I attended a meeting a few hours ago at the StubHub Center. The information on theirweb site indicates 27,000 seats. They provided further clarification. Originally for soccerthe seating capacity was 27000. When the Chargers decided to move from San Diego toLos Angeles the StubHub was chosen as a temporary site until the new stadium was built. To accommodate more fans extra seating was installed in the north end zone andsoutheast corner of the stadium giving the facility a seating capacity of greater than 30000.The 27000 on the website has nothing to do with fire marshal capacity rating, only theoriginal seating configuration. I was given a tour of the facility and can confirm that newseating was installed. I have made a suggestion for the operators of the Stub Hub Centerto indicate the change on their web site. If a web site change was made to indicate aseating capacity of 27000 for soccer and 30000+ for football, would this work to cover theChargers for home games under 7/4319.

The FBI and NFL security brought up a few good point, regardless of the seating capacitywith all the fans and support personnel the facility has over 300000 present for the games.Being the game is nationally televised and can be argued as a high profile event, thismakes for a prime opportunity for some type of terrorist activity. With 5 airports withinclose proximity I can understand their desire to be included/covered by a TFR.

Thank you,Mike

Michael Bumberger Special AgentFederal Aviation AdministrationInvestigations & Law Enforcement Assistance Program (LEAP), AHW-320Office: (310) 725-3737Cell: Fax: (310) 725-6660 WARNING: This document may be LAW ENFORCEMENT SENSITIVE (LES) & may bedesignated FOR OFFICIAL USE ONLY (FOUO). It may contain information that may be exempt

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from public release under the Freedom of Information Act (5 U.S.C. § 552) & controlled under theprovisions of 49 CFR 1520. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure, or distribution is prohibited.If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply e-mail and destroy all copiesof the original message.

From: McCain, DavidTo: Bumberger, Michael (FAA)Subject: FW: StubHub CapacityDate: Tuesday, October 03, 2017 9:42:55 AM

  

David McCainDirector, Security ServicesNATIONAL FOOTBALL LEAGUE345 Park Ave.New York, NY. 10154P: | E:     

From: Matt Bettenhausen [mailto:  Sent: Monday, October 02, 2017 8:36 PMTo: McCain, David Cc: Foxworth, Darrell (NFL Security Rep) Subject: RE: StubHub Capacity Progress today.  Not done yet on website, but we are moving positively in that direction. Matt 

From: Matt Bettenhausen Sent: Monday, October 02, 2017 12:03 PMTo: 'McCain, David' Cc: Foxworth, Darrell (NFL Security Rep) Subject: RE: StubHub Capacity Working on it.  As you know, last we spoke, the Chargers had concerns about changing the websiteto 30k and we were looking at the general public safety provision for a TFR.  I am running this toground and still working it since the articles over the weekend and the information is out therepublicly that it is a 30k or more CAPACITY stadium, although we are not selling, nor authorized tosell, more than 27k tickets.  Las Vegas has us tied up a bit today, but I am on it.  Thanks, Matt

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From: McCain, David   Sent: Monday, October 02, 2017 11:40 AMTo: Matt Bettenhausen Cc: Foxworth, Darrell (NFL Security Rep) Subject: FW: StubHub Capacity Matt, See Mike’s message below.  Don’t know if anything changed from our last conversation but want todouble check. Thanks, 

David McCainDirector, Security ServicesNATIONAL FOOTBALL LEAGUE345 Park Ave.New York, NY. 10154P: | E:     

From: Michael.Bumberger@faa.gov [mailto:Michael.Bumberger@faa.gov] Sent: Monday, October 02, 2017 2:13 PMTo: McCain, David  ; darrellfoxworthSubject: StubHub Capacity Gents, Need your help with AEG. I am receiving backlash from the StubHub TFR issue. AEG has twiceindicated they are changing the web page to reflect a 30000+ capacity under the current footballconfiguration. As of this morning the change has not been made. If the change does not get made it isgoing to put us all in precarious position. One banner company has already contacted the FAA claiminglost revenue because of the TFR. They are basing their claim on information taken from the StubHubwebsite, which indicates 27000. The agreement for the TFR was based on AEG statements the facilitywas capable of seating more than 30000 and their assurance the website will reflect as such. Unless thechange is made it will be difficult for FAA Flight Standards Inspectors to enforce any violations. Basicallyall the pilot has to say is he checked the Stadium NOTAM and the StubHub website. The website listed27000 so...... Thank you, Mike

Michael Bumberger

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 Special AgentFederal Aviation AdministrationInvestigations & Law Enforcement Assistance Program (LEAP), AHW-320Office: (310) 725-3737Cell: Fax: (310) 725-6660 WARNING: This document may be LAW ENFORCEMENT SENSITIVE (LES) & may be designated FOROFFICIAL USE ONLY (FOUO). It may contain information that may be exempt from public release under theFreedom of Information Act (5 U.S.C. § 552) & controlled under the provisions of 49 CFR 1520. Any unauthorizedreview, use, disclosure, or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the senderby reply e-mail and destroy all copies of the original message.

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From: Papuyo, Theresa A. (LA) (FBI)To: Bumberger, Michael (FAA); derrellfoxworthSubject: Re: Stub HubDate: Friday, September 29, 2017 10:53:23 AM

Mike,

Thank you for the email. See you tomorrow.

SA Theresa Ann PapuyoSpecial Events CoordinatorFBI Los Angeles cell: desk: (310) 996-4168fax: (310) 996-4428email: tapapuyo@fbi.gov

-------- Original message --------From: Michael.Bumberger@faa.govDate: 9/29/17 9:06 AM (GMT-08:00)To: "Papuyo, Theresa A. (LA) (FBI)" <tapapuyo@fbi.gov>, derrellfoxworthSubject: FW: Stub Hub

Please see HQ's reply. I believe we are good to go as long as Stub Hub management can either receivean approval from the state to change the capacity and/or change the web page. I spoke with Adamabout getting the webpage changed to indicate a 30000 seat capacity. He is going to float the idea andsee what can be done. Give me a call if you have any questions. I am off today, but have my phone with me.

Mike

Michael Bumberger Special AgentFederal Aviation AdministrationInvestigations & Law Enforcement Assistance Program (LEAP), AHW-320Office: (310) 725-3737Cell: Fax: (310) 725-6660 WARNING: This document may be LAW ENFORCEMENT SENSITIVE (LES) & may be designated FOROFFICIAL USE ONLY (FOUO). It may contain information that may be exempt from public release under theFreedom of Information Act (5 U.S.C. § 552) & controlled under the provisions of 49 CFR 1520. Any unauthorizedreview, use, disclosure, or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the senderby reply e-mail and destroy all copies of the original message.

From: Throop, Brian (FAA)Sent: Thursday, September 28, 2017 5:25 PMTo: Bumberger, Michael (FAA)

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Cc: Miller, Gary W (FAA)Subject: Re: Stub Hub

Hey Mike. Sorry for the delay. We've been swamped. The bottom line is that if the officialsitting capacity is 30,000 or more and a regular-season NFL game is taking place, then It iscovered by the stadium TFR. I would suggest they make that change as quickly as possibleand then get with local flight standards to socialize this with the local aviation community.One thing you mentioned, though, bears clarification. Under the provisions of the law aircraftlanding or taking off from those local airports near the stadium would be permitted to transitthe air space provided they are on what could be considered a routine air traffic approach orarrival procedure. I didn't want them to think if the TFR goes up that they won't see anyairplanes. Hope that helps. Brian.

Sent from my iPhone

On Sep 27, 2017, at 11:34 PM, Bumberger, Michael (FAA) <Michael.Bumberger@faa.gov>wrote:

Gents,

I attended a meeting a few hours ago at the StubHub Center. The information on theirweb site indicates 27,000 seats. They provided further clarification. Originally for soccerthe seating capacity was 27000. When the Chargers decided to move from San Diego toLos Angeles the StubHub was chosen as a temporary site until the new stadium was built. To accommodate more fans extra seating was installed in the north end zone andsoutheast corner of the stadium giving the facility a seating capacity of greater than 30000.The 27000 on the website has nothing to do with fire marshal capacity rating, only theoriginal seating configuration. I was given a tour of the facility and can confirm that newseating was installed. I have made a suggestion for the operators of the Stub Hub Centerto indicate the change on their web site. If a web site change was made to indicate aseating capacity of 27000 for soccer and 30000+ for football, would this work to cover theChargers for home games under 7/4319.

The FBI and NFL security brought up a few good point, regardless of the seating capacitywith all the fans and support personnel the facility has over 300000 present for the games.Being the game is nationally televised and can be argued as a high profile event, thismakes for a prime opportunity for some type of terrorist activity. With 5 airports withinclose proximity I can understand their desire to be included/covered by a TFR.

Thank you,Mike

Michael Bumberger Special AgentFederal Aviation AdministrationInvestigations & Law Enforcement Assistance Program (LEAP), AHW-320Office: (310) 725-3737Cell: Fax: (310) 725-6660 WARNING: This document may be LAW ENFORCEMENT SENSITIVE (LES) & may bedesignated FOR OFFICIAL USE ONLY (FOUO). It may contain information that may be exempt

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from public release under the Freedom of Information Act (5 U.S.C. § 552) & controlled under theprovisions of 49 CFR 1520. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure, or distribution is prohibited.If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply e-mail and destroy all copiesof the original message.

From: McCain, DavidTo: Bumberger, Michael (FAA)Cc: darrellfoxworth ; Stetson, Bill; Bandy, Lenny; Lanier, CathySubject: Re: Sunday"s GameDate: Saturday, September 30, 2017 9:35:43 AM

We would love to have you. Any additional support is always welcome. Your in good handswith Darrell and the Chargers security.

Sent from my iPhone

On Sep 30, 2017, at 12:20 PM, "Michael.Bumberger@faa.gov"<Michael.Bumberger@faa.gov> wrote:

I would be more than happy to assist. I will coordinate with Darrell. Sounds like alot going on with the commissioner attending, don't want to add more to the plateor be in the way. I have cleared my schedule if needed. Thank you,Mike

Sent from my iPhone

On Sep 30, 2017, at 9:02 AM, McCain, David < > wrote:

Great news Mike. I appreciate your perseverance and hard work onthis. It's nothing more than the safety of our guest and staff.

Will you still attend Sunday's game?

David

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On Sep 30, 2017, at 11:58 AM, "Michael.Bumberger@faa.gov"<Michael.Bumberger@faa.gov> wrote:

Sorry, I didn't reply back last night. Refereed a highschool game and got home after 1130 pm. I had severalmessage advising FAA airspace security office hasagreed Stub Hub Center qualifies for the stadium TFRbased on the information provided by Stub Hub Centerand the NFL. Let me know if I can assist further.

Mike

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On Sep 29, 2017, at 2:31 PM, McCain, David< > wrote:

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Darrell, Can you please make arrangements to assistMike Bumberger with the FAA (cc’d here) inattending the game this Sunday?  He willattend in an official capacity to observe andreport any unsafe flying conditions. In the meantime, we are still working on a TFR. Will keep you posted.  <image001.jpg>David McCainDirector, Security ServicesNATIONAL FOOTBALL LEAGUE345 Park Ave.New York, NY. 10154P: | E:     

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From: Bumberger, Michael (FAA)To: mbettenhausenSubject: StubHub CenterDate: Wednesday, October 04, 2017 7:33:21 AM

Matt,

I know you probably have a lot going on with the Las Vegas incident, so I will be brief. I have beeninvolved in the TFR issue and was the one pushing for the the venue to be included in the standingstadium TFR. I have received major pushback after this weekend's game. It is all centered around thewebsite and 27000. I have been advised you are making progress getting the change made. We havehad several banner tow companies challenging the TFR validity and claiming a loss of revenue based onthe published capacity. To satisfy my critics can you please send me something in writing acknowledginga 30000+ seat capacity.

The following is what I have sent up the chain of command.

I attended a meeting on 9/27 and was told by a representative of the StubHub and NFL about thechanges made to the stadium when the Chargers moved in. I believe I explained this to you yesterdayon the phone. As was told to me, the stadium sits on California State Land. AEG leases the land thestadium sits on. In the lease California came up with an arbitrary number of no more than 27,000 ticketscan be sold for a game (even though the stadium seats more than that). This number is not based onanything more than a contractual agreement.When the Chargers moved to Los Angeles and selected the StubHub Center as their home, morepermanent seating was added putting the capacity of the stadium over 30000. This is the information Iprovided Brian Throop and was based on my observation of the added seats and the verbalconfirmation I was give by AEG/StubHub representatives. I am continuing to work with NFL Security and AEG/StubHub to get the website changed.

Well not so brief, but..... please call me if you have any questions.

Thank you in advance,

Mike

Michael Bumberger Special AgentFederal Aviation Administration Law Enforcement Assistance Program (LEAP)Office: (310) 725-3737Cell: Fax: (310) 725-6660 WARNING: This document may be LAW ENFORCEMENT SENSITIVE (LES) & may be designated FOROFFICIAL USE ONLY (FOUO). It may contain information that may be exempt from public release under theFreedom of Information Act (5 U.S.C. § 552) & controlled under the provisions of 49 CFR 1520. Any unauthorizedreview, use, disclosure, or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the senderby reply e-mail and destroy all copies of the original message.

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From: McCain, DavidTo: Bumberger, Michael (FAA)Cc: Foxworth, Darrell (NFL Security Rep); Bandy, Lenny; Lanier, CathySubject: TFR at StubHubDate: Friday, September 29, 2017 12:44:57 PM

Mr. Bumberger, I was given your contact info from our Chargers Security Representative Darrell Foxworth (cc’d). Iwas in attendance at the first regular season game of the Chargers at StubHub that initiated therecent conversation concerning a TFR, or lack thereof. To cut to the chase and not berate the issueof who was flying what, where, and at what time, I would like to know if it is possible to obtain a“temporary” TFR while the capacity issue is resolved? The below reporter is getting this story wrongand thinks that it’s too keep out the person renting the banner plane. It is not. It is to control theairspace above one of our events for the safety and benefit of our fans and staff. The violator of theairspace on the game that I attended was not the renter banner plane, but that of an unrelatedhelicopter. http://fox5sandiego.com/2017/09/28/faa-denies-dean-spanos-request-to-stop-banners-from-flying-before-chargers-games/ I have also spoken with the Chargers security director, Bill Stetson, who is in support of any solutionto maintain safety of the fans and staff. Please let me know how I can achieve this solution in a quick and easy manner. Your assistance isgreatly appreciated.

David McCainDirector, Security ServicesNATIONAL FOOTBALL LEAGUE345 Park Ave.New York, NY. 10154P: | E:

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