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TDECQ and SRS Piers Dawe Mellanox

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TDECQ and SRS

Piers Dawe

Mellanox

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Supporters of the analysis

Phil Sun Credo

Ken Jackson Sumitomo

Mike Dudek Cavium

Pavel Zivny Tektronix

Johan Jacob Mohr Mellanox

Marco Mazzini Cisco

Pirooz Tooyserkani Cisco

Rick Rabinovich Keysight Technologies

Ed Ulrichs Source Photonics

John Calvin VTM802.3cd May 2018 TDECQ and SRS 2

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1-dimensional TDECQ is only part of what we need. SRS tweaks can follow

• Continuing to investigate the variety of bad signals (both in-service signals and stressed receive signals), considering where the limits of compliance should be and how to achieve them

• Follows dawe_3cd_01a_0318.pdf , dawe_032118_3cd_adhoc.pdf , dawe_040418_3cd_adhoc , dawe_1_0418 and dawe_041118_3cd_adhoc-v2 , dawe_050918_3cd_adhoc.pdf

• New material since April – survey results, refinements to left and top limits, proposed changes for draft, number of adjustable thresholds, re-ordering, clarifications

• New since May 9th: More clarifications, more from survey. New slides 20 – 22

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TDECQ map (50GBASE-LR, 100GBASE-DR)

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Ideal waveform

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3.4 dB TDECQ limit proposed to be reduced to 3 dB: mazzini_041118_3cd_adhoc , king_050218_3cd_adhoc-v2For 50GBASE-FR it's 3.2 > 2.8

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√ Bottom: natural limit

√ Upper right: TDECQ limit

× Right: vertex where it appears real transmitters aren't

× Top: no limit

× Left: no limit

Tx gets no more credit for OMA < 1.4 dB

Signals below the blue line have to provide more power than OMA-TDECQ limit

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TDECQ and SRS 6

Ideal waveform Half the SECQ

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Transmitted signals are allowed that receivers don't

have to receive (red regions)

Rx sees extra OMA here

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Mismatch between SRS and real signals?

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Ideal waveform Half the SECQ

from filtering

Slowest, as dawe_3cd_01a_0318

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SRS signal must be in

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Where will real poor signals

be? Here? 50G can be better

than 100G

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Tap weights don't sum to 1

• Transmitters include EML, SiP, one MZM, VCSELs• One high-TDECQ point has a data error?

• The red ellipse is a compromise between 50G and 100G, SMF• The 50G signals have TDECQ well below the TDECQ limits• All 50G SMF signals are far to the left of the slowest allowed• Many SMF transmitters seem to be using emphasis – some want to be on

the left of zero See later for more, inc. Rx tap coefficients

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SRS signal must be in

this range – see backup

Should be excluded

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T/2-spaced TDECQ

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Must have some

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"Exclusion" could be by giving signals in the red boxes

worse TDECQ scores, or by "hard" pass-fail rules

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The green and blue-green lines represent receivers with some internal impairments

such as finite tap and threshold setting accuracy

The purple line (improved but still preliminary) shows how a finite range of tap

weights affects things, with either a real receiver or the reference FFE in TDECQ

This example with limits 0.9 < cursor < ~1.4

See backup for more on TDECQrms

(mostly under the purple line)

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A peak/OMA spec would exclude signals that have too much "dynamic range", but does not seem to control over-emphasis unless very bad

Peak/OMA: left axis

A risetime spec around 30 ps seems to screen signals that are slower than allowed for PAM2

Limit for 50G lanes should be a bit tighter than that: propose 27 to 28 ps if no tap limit

This is 20-80% observed in the usual fb/2 BW

Scatter needs more investigation, but promising for right side, not so for left side 11

Peak/(OMA/2), left axis

TDECQ -10*log10(Ceq), left axis

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• So far, the correlation between slowness penalty in dB and largest tap coefficient looks promising

• This might be just luck• This is a simplification of a previous proposal that used the sum of the other

four taps

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Most serious gaps• The most serious gaps are on the left and top

– See waveforms in backup that illustrate this

• To address over-emphasis (left), either

1. Constrain cursor, or

2. Constrain Ceq or main tap weight, in TDECQ, or

3. Reject signals with Ceq < limit, or main tap weight > limit

4. Reject signals with (peak-mean)/OMA > limit

• Options 1 and 2 are more lenient to otherwise good signals

• All are "free": by-product of TDECQ measurement, or part of it

• Option 4 can be done without the full TDECQ analysis– but may not work so well

• See next two slides for example remedies

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Bound the left side (too much emphasis)Cl 138 SC 138.8.5.1 P 273 L 41 # r02-47 Comment Type TR

In this draft, it is possible to make a bad transmitter (e.g. with a noisy or distorted signal), use emphasis to get it to pass the

TDECQ test, yet leave a realistic, compliant receiver with an unreasonable challenge, such as high peak power, high crest factor, or a need to remove a lot of emphasis from the signal, contrary to what equalizers are primarily intended to do ("gaming the spec": D3.1 comment 70). Note the receiver is tested for medium to slow signals only, not for any of these abusive signals. This is an issue for all the PAM4 optical PMDs, although it may be worse for MMF because of the high TDECQ limit and because the signal is measured in a particularly low bandwidth. On the

TDECQ map (see e.g. dawe_041818_3cd_adhoc-v2) we need to stop signals that are too far to the left, which would be outside the range of what a typical equalizer would be designed to cope with (e.g. would need strong tap weights of the opposite sign to normal) and provide no practical benefit in a system. At present there is no boundary on the left.

D3.0 comment 116, D3.1 comments 70, 71.

SuggestedRemedy

To protect the receiver from having to "invert" heavily over-emphasised signals, change "largest magnitude tap coefficient" to "largest magnitude tap coefficient, which is constrained to be at least 0.95."Similarly in clauses 139, 140.

It may make sense to have a higher limit (1 to 1.1) for MMF because the transmitter is not tested without the filter emulating a low-pass fibre.

• Survey would support 0.99 but lower is requested

• Important to have some limit: not so important to optimise it

• Propose 0.8 for SMF

• Error in suggested remedy: MMF signal is measured as if after slowest channel; with a faster channel the same transmitter would be further to the right. So need higher limit for MMF so EQ IC can work in same range. Propose at least 0.3 dB of Ceq higher, tap min. 0.87

• The remedy doesn't directly outlaw excessively over-emphasised signals, but gives them worse TDECQ scores

• Alternatives considered: peak-peak/OMA limit, minimum Ceq limit, minimum risetime limit

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Bound the top (irreparably bad)• Cl 139 SC 139.7.5.3 P 297 L 52 # r02-52 Comment Type TR

• In this draft, it is possible to make a bad SMF transmitter with emphasis (e.g. with a noisy or distorted signal) that even an equalizer better than the reference equalizer won't be able to improve. Note the receiver is tested for a slow signal only, not for such signals.

• On the TDECQ map (see e.g. dawe_041818_3cd_adhoc-v2) we need to stop signals that are too high up the page.

• D3.0 comment 116, D3.1 comment 71.

• SuggestedRemedy

• For a SMF TDECQ limit of 3.2 or 3.4 dB: Either:

• 1. Limit TDECQ -10*log10(Ceq) to <=2.8 dB for SMF PMDs.

• or:

• 2. Define TDECQrms = 10*log10(A_RMS/(s*3*Qt*R)) where A_RMS is the standard deviation of the measured signal after the 13.28125 GHz filter response (before the FFE), Qt and R are as already in Eq 121-12. s is the standard deviation of a fast clean signal with OMA=2 and without emphasis, observed through the reference Bessel-Thomson filter response but before the reference equalizer (0.6254 for 13.28125 GHz).

• Limit 3 dB for SMF PMDs. This could be added to the transmitter tables.

• Either is a free by-product of a TDECQ measurement

• Is there an alternative?

• Option 1: for 50G SMF, if TDECQ limits are reduced to 2.8, 3.2 dB as expected, this should be 2.5 dB as shown. For 100G SMF, survey indicates a higher limit would help some transmitters: suggest 2.8 dB as proposed in the comment. For MMF: depends on MMF TDECQ limit

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Bound the right (slower than expected)• Cl 139 SC 139.7.5.4 P 298 L 6 # r02-54 Comment Type TR

• The draft transmitter spec allows signals that are slower than the receiver is tested for in SRS, slower than the equivalent SMF PAM2 spec, and I believe slower than were allowed when the draft had a T/2-spaced equalizer. I have seen no evidence that implementers want to make super-slow transmitters. Yet receiving such a signal would place an extra burden on the receive equalizer e.g. better linearity and/or finer AtoD or tap resolution. This is one kind of "abusive signal" mentioned in D3.1 comment 71. See e.g. dawe_041818_3cd_adhoc-v2. The first option more directly protects the receiver and allows more trade-offs in transmitter design; both are free by-products of a TDECQ measurement and are at about 1.7 dB slowness penalty.

• SuggestedRemedy

• Limit the signals on the right of e.g. dawe_041818_3cd_adhoc-v2. Either:

• Set a maximum cursor strength limit,1.4

• or:

• Set a maximum 20-80% transition time limit as observed after the reference Bessel-Thomson filter response but before the reference equalizer, 28 ps.

• For Clause 140, the limits would be 1.5 and 15 ps (allowing relatively slower signals).

• For Clause 138, the transmitters would have similar speed to Clause 139, but the signals are observed in a lower bandwidth, so a limit in between 1.4 and 1.5 should be used.

• Either is a free by-product of a TDECQ measurement.

• Transition time would be based on isolated edges (see 120E.3.1.5 Transition time) and P0, P3 (see 121.8.4 Outer Optical Modulation Amplitude (OMAouter)

• Comments 57 and 58 also propose a maximum rise time specification

• The cursor strength limit allows a trade-off, more representative of receiver's needs: an otherwise better Tx can be a little slower

• Based on survey result: for 50G SMF, propose maximum cursor strength limit of 1.35 or transition time 27 to 28 ps, for "slowness penalty", ~1.5 dB as illustrated 16

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Additions to Table 139–6, 50GBASE-FR and 50GBASE-LR transmit characteristics

Description 50GBASE-FR 50GBASE-LR Unit

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Transmitter and dispersion eye closure for PAM4 (TDECQ) (max)

3.2 2.8 3.4 3.0 dB

Tap coefficient for TDECQ (max) 1.35 1.35 –

Main tap coefficient for TDECQ (min) 0.8 0.8 –

TDECQ minus 10log10(Ceq) (max) 2.5 2.5 dB

Average launch power of OFF transmitter (max)

–16 dBm

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The change to TDECQ limits is proposed in king_050218_3cd_adhoc-v2

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Three adjustable thresholds or six?

• The draft says:

• — Pth1, Pth2, and Pth3 are varied from their nominal values by

up to ±1% of OMAouter in order to optimize TDECQ.

• Three thresholds, used for both left and right histograms, but one could use six

• If we think the worst-case receiver is either like the left histogram or the right one but never both together (lower setup-and-hold time and jitter), low, choose six– This allows twisted eyes: 2% of OMA or 6% of a sub-eye in 0.1 UI or

60%/UI

• If we think the worst-case receiver is like both together (higher setup-and-hold time and jitter), choose three

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Text changes to TDECQ definition138.8.5 Transmitter and dispersion eye closure -quaternary (TDECQ), 139.7.5.3 TDECQ measurement method, 140.7.5 Transmitter and dispersion eye closure for PAM4 (TDECQ)

TDECQ of each lane shall be within the limits given in Table 138–8 if measured using the methods specified in 121.8.5, with the following exceptions:

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— Pth1, Pth2, and Pth3 are varied from their nominal values by up to ±1% of OMAouter in order to optimize TDECQ. The same three thresholds are used for both the left and the right histogram.

— The equalizer tap coefficients are adjusted within the constraints given in Table 138–8 / 139–6 / 140–6.

—Ceq is as defined in Eq (121–9) with the same tap coefficients used for TDECQ.

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• Here, taps are numbered relative to the main tap

• Outer taps are small– Indicates that other solutions are possible, some almost as good

• Main tap is in position 2 or 3

• Not position 1

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-3 -2 -1 0 1 2 3-0.5

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Tap weights and TDECQ, SiP

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Tap weights and TDECQ, EML

3.10

3.00

3.00

2.98

100G/lane reference receiver tap weights

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• Main tap is in position 2 or 3 (or 4 – not allowed)

• Not position 1

• Here, taps are numbered relative to the main tap

• Outer taps are small– Indicates that other solutions are possible, some almost as good

• TDECQ for SiP is way below the threshold. Maximum weight of precursor 2 is 0.015, 1.2% of the main cursor

• For EML, maximum precursor 2 weight is less than 3% of main cursor. Postcursor 2 weight for the same transmitter is about 4.1%. One other test has 2.6% postcursor 3 and no precursor 2

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Summary

• TDECQ is not the whole story

• Add spec limits for left, top and right in addition to TDECQ limit, to protect cost-effective receivers:

Left Largest magnitude tap coefficient min. 0.8 for SMF, 0.87 for MMF

Top TDECQ minus 10log10(Ceq) max. 2.5 for TDECQ max 2.8, or 2.8 for 3.2 (SMF)

Right Max. tap coefficient 1.35 or max. transition time 27 to 28 ps, for 50G SMF

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To do

• Tweak the SRS calibration recipe to better align with the chosen range of Ceq

– Avoid too much residual penalty (including transmitter noise, as requested by others: see comment r02-27)

• Choose reasonable TDECQ and top limits for MMF

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Backup slides

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SMF TDECQ limit

No patterning ornoise

Dirty

SRS 1/2 from filtering

Construction line

SRS signals

Calibration of signal for stressed receiver sensitivity

TDECQ and SRS 25

0 Ideal waveform 1 At least half the

SECQ from filtering

2 Add SJ

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<- overEmph fast? slow ->

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SRS signal must be

in this range

SJ

3 Add more

filtering, SI, GN

In any proportion

• Present draft allows unrealistic amounts of Gaussian noise• When we know where acceptable transmitters are (left to right) we can adjust the

"at least half the SECQ from filtering" rule to adjust the coverage (comment 55)

Step by step, 0 to 3

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SRS 1/2 from filtering

SRS signals

MMF TDECQ limit

Bad ISI

xPeak

Extremes of worst-case signals

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TDECQ (dBo)

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Same transmitter in 25G PAM2 mode, 19.34 GHz BT4

UI at 25.78125 GBd

0 0.2 0.4 0.6 0.8 1 1.2 1.4

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1

Peak/OMA increases when signal is over-emphasised or slow-but-emphasised

These points are observed in the same fb/2 BW as TDECQ. See later.

The two upper signals (after reference Rx FFE) are shown with all but 1 dBo of Rx noise

0 0.2 0.4 0.6 0.8 1 1.2 1.4

-0.2

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0.6

0.8

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<- overEmph slow ->

Same transmitter in 25G PAM2 mode, 19.34 GHz BT4

UI at 25.78125 GBd

0 0.2 0.4 0.6 0.8 1 1.2 1.4-0.6

-0.4

-0.2

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1.4

The signal on the left is bad

because nothing can be done

to improve it – neither

sensitivity nor EQ.

Worse is allowed by the draft

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SMF TDECQ limit

SRS 1/2 from filtering

MMF TDECQ limit

Better SMF TDECQlimit

TDECQrms

Example improved specs

TDECQ and SRS 27

TDECQ (dBo)

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Need to come to a consensus on what's reasonable

0 0.2 0.4 0.6 0.8 1 1.2 1.4

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Upper left: Example of a signal that no reasonable

400GBASE-F/D/LRn should have to receive

Very slow corner would make more sense for 100G lanes than 50G lanes

These signals are shown with very little noise

<- overEmph slow ->

(see later)

Same transmitter in 25G PAM2 mode, 19.34 GHz BT4

UI at 25.78125 GBd

0 0.2 0.4 0.6 0.8 1 1.2 1.4-0.4

-0.2

0

0.2

0.4

0.6

0.8

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1.2

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SRS 1/2 from filtering

MMF TDECQ limit

Bad ISI +

xPeak

xECQrms

TDECQrms

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TDECQ (dBo)

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TDECQrms is below TDECQ on the right, above on the left – goes with a TDECQ limit having a shallower slope on this plot, as on slide 9

<- overEmph slow ->

TDECQ-10*log10(Ceq)

Peak/(OMA/2) vs dB

TDECQrms-10*log10(Ceq)