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Such Breakdown! 25AA/26TS/23PAT wowDiscussion in 'DAT Discussions' started by DogeDDS, Monday at 10:21 PM.
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Hey guys! I just took my DAT this morning and am elated with my scores. To
start, I wouldlike to thankthe SDN community. Withoutyou guys, this score
would not have been possible. The knowledge I've gained here was invaluable
and now I feel it is my duty to give back to that which nurtured my growth and
ability to succeed. I am still in shock that I received the scores that I did. My
GPA's aren't great so I knew I had to make a statement with this test. This wasabout the score I was hoping to get, but I didn't think I'd actually get it. Just
goes to show that if you put in the work, it pays off.
PAT: 23
QR: 22
RC: 25
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GC: 25
OC: 25
TS: 26
AA: 25
Here's a quick breakdown of materials I used in case you just want to get in and
out. A more detailed breakdown is included further below.
Materials Used for Review:
1. Chad's Videos(11/10)
2. Feralis' Notes(9.5/10)
3. Barrons AP Bio/Cliffs AP Bio (9/10)
Materials Used for Practice:
1. DAT Bootcamp (11/10)
2.DAT Qvault (11/10)3. DAT Destroyer (9/10)
4. Math Destroyer (10/10)
5. Organic Chemistry Odyssey (9/10)
Practice Test Scores for DAT Qvault
Bio: 20/19/20/19/18/21/20/22/19/22
GC: 20/20/17/21/20/20/21/24/22
OC: 18/20/20/21/21/21/20/21/18
PAT: 18/19/20/22/22/20
Practice Test Scores for DAT Bootcamp(I didn't record my first 2 so
scores start from exam 3; retake of exam #1 two days before my exam)
Bio: 20/21/22/30
GC: 26/19/20/23
OC: 19/22/21/27
PAT: 21/20/21/23
Logistics:
My study time was about 11 weeks, partly because I am horrible at sticking to astudy plan. I must have re-planned out what I was going to do with my
remaining time at least 5 times. This added much unnecessary stress. Don't do
this. Make a plan and stick to it, but it's also important to know how to adapt it
to your needs. Also, know that practice tests will guide you to where you need
to, but you have put in the work to improve those areas.
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Another factor that helped me were flashcards. Yeah, I know, I neveruse
flashcards either, but when I noticed I kept getting questions wrong that I've
been exposed to before, I decided that it was time to go old school. Went to
Wal-Mart, bought like 700 flashcards and went to town. Anything I got wrong
from Bootcamp or Qvault, anything I thought was important from Feralis'
notes, anything I knew I would forget, I wrote it down. The last 2 days before
my exam, I went through ALL of them. Probably not the best time to reviewthem as I got worried to see that I had forgotten some of the things I had
written weeks before, but I made sure I knew every single one before exam
time.
Biology 26
Review
I reviewed this section using a mixture of Cliff's, Barron's, and Feralis'.
Cliff's and Barron's are great resources but are notorious for lacking in
physiology. Feralis' notes has everything you could need. The only reason I gave
it a 9.5 was that it was a little too detailed, in hindsight. However, better safe
than sorry. I would advise making your own set of COMPLETE notes that you
can study from for this section. It is time consuming, but I believe putting in
your own words, and formatting it yourself is infinitely better than just reading
someone else's work over and over.
Also, when reviewing notes, try to formulate questions for yourself in your head
to make connections. For instance, if a gene that codes for a pyruvate transport
protein was mutated, what would occur? Well, (1) pyruvate would build up in
the cytosol and (2) the Krebs Cycle would no longer be able to occur. This may
not be entirely right but I used it in order to make sure I knew which cellularprocesses were occurring where. Using pathology-based questions is a great
way to test yourself.
Practice
I started by using DAT Destroyer. Good for getting down concepts into your
head but overkill in some aspects. I would suggest doing this after your review
to solidify your knowledge, then go into Bootcamp/QVault to polish everything.
I planned on going through it twice but I got lazy after the first time and went
straight to software practice. I used a spreadsheet to jot my answers.DAT Qvaultbiology has huge number of questions on every topic. The layout
and user interface is amazing. They provide specific breakdowns of which
subjects you got wrong so you know what areas to work on. Some questions
were a bit out of the scope but definitely worth getting.
DAT Bootcamp has quickly become the gold standard for practice tests. Good
balance of challenging questions with very helpful explanations.
Flash cards were made from all 3 sources.
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Test
Definitely breadth over depth. The bio section of the DAT has become much
less regurgitation and more application. Make sure you understand the
concepts. Memorization of all of Feralis' notes will probably get you a 20+, but
memorization and being able to critically think with that knowledge will take
you a lot further. During the test, I was unsure about a few questions whichdefinitely frazzled me early on but I just marked them and moved along.
General Chemistry 25
Review
Chad(noun): Dealer of Knowledge. Reaper of Chemistries. A God among Men.
As you probably already know, Chad is the go-to for the chemistries,
recommended by nearly all of SDN's DAT takers, and for good reason. His
ability to teach difficult concepts so you remember them a timely manner is
unmatched. Watching Chad is important, but it's worthless if you don't take
good notes. You willforget things and you willneed to review these notes to
remember.
Practice
Afterwards, I practiced using DAT Destroyer. It kicked my butt the first time,
especially the calculations. As I went through it, I marked any questions I got
wrong and that I thought were important in an excel spreadsheet. My last week
or so, I went through these again as I still felt GC was a weak point.
Used DAT Qvaultand DAT Bootcampfor more practice after Destroyer. If I
had to pick, Bootcamp > QVault but both were helpful.Flash cards, again, were made from these 3 sources.
Test
Mostly straight-forward questions. I did mark quite a few I was unsure of but
moved onto OC before returning. I don't think I got these right and this
unfortunately, I believe, affected my ability to concentrate during the PAT
section.
Organic Chemistry 25Review
Same as GC.
Practice
Chad is great, however, I will say that he does not go over every
reaction/reagent that you mayneed. I definitely came across a question that
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wasn't included in Chad's lectures, but luckily I was exposed to it in either
Destroyer, Bootcamp or QVault. Thus, make sure you practice with other tools!
ou never know what might show up on the test.
Odyssey was surprisingly helpful. It's definitely not one of the universally
recommended tools like Chad's or Destroyer, but it helped me to work out my
weak points. Each chapter is broken down into a certain discipline such asstereochemistry, substitution reactions, carbohydrates, lab techniques,
aromatics, etc and each has ~40-50 questions. After doing a certain chapter of
Odyssey and making flash cards for it, I definitely felt I knew that concept
inside and out. Not essential but recommended if you can afford the money and
time.
up, more flash cards were made.
Test
I thought this sections was fairly straight-forward as well. Mastering the basics
will probably get you a 20+.
Perceptual Ability 23
Practice
Unlike many of my fellow SDNers, I didn't get CDP because I read mixed
reviews about it being too easy. However, I think as long as you supplement
CDP with Bootcamp, you should be golden. I used only Bootcampand
Qvault. Qvault is quite easy, especially with the angles, but it's not horrible. I
used Qvault in between the 5 Bootcamp tests, which were definitely harder andmore closer to the real thing. Bootcamp prepares you for the more difficult
third-folds, tear-inducing angles, and hair-splitting proportions you could see
on the real test. The way they breakdown every answer is incredible. It shows
that Ari and his team put in a lot of effort into this program for us pre-dents.
Worth every penny.
Test
As I said before, I came into PAT more focused about not getting everything
right in the sciences. Don't do this! If you have time left (which I didn't) take asecond to reset your mind. Forget about your performance in the sciences. You
will now be using a different part of your brain to succeed! I'd say the hardest
part was probably keyholes. It was surprisingly hard to eliminate wrong choices
and decide on the right one. Some angles seemed disgustingly close too.
Reading Comprehension 25
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Practice
Alright, so this is score is what surprised me the most. I did like a total of
maybe like 5 practice tests for RC and that's it. I used Bootcamp and Qvault.
I thought both were pretty hard compared to the real thing but I barely
practiced this section so don't take my word for it. I'm not the best reader and I
figured that wasn't going to change. I tried all kinds of strategies but I didn't
really feel comfortable with any of them. Search and destroy gave me heartpalpitations when I couldn't find answers so I knew this method wasn't for me.
I tried passage mapping and question mapping but got inconsistent scores.
Test
All 3 of my articles had varying levels of "scientific density", but they were all
fairly short compared to what I did in practice . There was one passage about
quantum physics with loads of terminology. I quickly read the first paragraph
and understood nothing of it so I tried SnD but that went horribly. I wasted like
4 minutes trying to figure out the first 2 questions so I freaked out and went
onto the next passage. It was a horriblefeeling knowing I had to make up time
in a section that I sucked at. Luckily, I found this one interesting and it was a
pretty quick read so I could recall most of the questions without having to look
back. With like 15 minutes left, I decided to just completely read that
godforsaken passage again before answering questions. Clutch decision.
Somehow, I got into the groove of comprehending what the passage was about.
I think reading the passage enthusiastically and really trying to understand it is
key to doing well. Read like you enjoy it. Read like its something you want to
learn.
Quantitative Reasoning 22
Practice
Considering how much I neglected this section, I'm definitely happy with this
score. I started with Chad's math videos since I had access to them. It was good
for reestablishing my math foundation but if you're already good at math, you
could probably skip this. I got shafted on like every Math Destroyertest,
scoring around 25-30/40. With Bootcamp, I was scoring like 20/40 because I
always ran out of time (I didn't realize Bootcamp stated that it was actually
much harder than the real thing ). The fact that I was barely improvingdiscouraged me from trying to perfect it.
Test
In my opinion, Math Destroyer and Bootcamp were both overkill by a mile. The
real thing was much more basic and intuitive, which I could do. However, being
exposed to the harder questions definitely helped. I actually had a decent
amount of time to check some answers by using the calculator. I clearly got
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some wrong but I would've have been happy with a 19+ so this was a pleasant
surprise.
Once again, I would like to thank SDN and everyone who posted their
breakdowns. They helped me tremendously and I would like to pay it forwardto future DAT takers. To sum up, just know that hard work beats out talent any
day. I am not naturally smart or intelligent. I just decided that I would work my
butt off to get a high score to help achieve my goal of being admitted into dental
school. Work hard, work smart, and never give up!
Also, a shoutout to Starbucks for consistently making such tasty americanos.
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Congratulations! Great scores!
WOW! great scores and thanks for the breakdown. BTW I love that video at the
end haha
What's with people just destroying the DAT lately? You guys are making me
consider a retake! Congrats!
22AA / 22TS / 19PAT
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KILLER scores!!!! I read your post this morning and was thinking about how
you did today. My test is on Thursday and I'm getting 21-22 in all sections on
qVault and Bootcamp. Seeing your qVault/Bootcamp scores and your actual
scores just got me pumped!! I can't wait to destroy this thing. Awesome
breakdown. Thanks! All day today I pretty much took practice tests and did
problems and skimmed a little through Ferali's. Any advice for the next two
days before DAT-day?
customx said: !
eah seriously. First 27 AA, then 23 AA, now 25 AA...
Anyways, this is a huge accomplishment. Congratulations.
AA 21 TS 21 PAT 22
CONGRATULATIONS!!I remember you were the first person to post on my
breakdown and I wanted to be the first to post on yours but I'm much too late!!
Also, I think the reason we're seeing a lot of people with decent scores right
now might be because a fair number of people choose to take the test at the end
of spring break? But I dunno, perhaps it's just chance. It doesn't much matter
though, I think all scores above 21 or 22 are just about equal. After all, I'm sure
people must realize that the DAT's resolution becomes super wide at the high
ranges, such that the difference between a 22 and a 26 is just one or two
questions. Now it is time to relax (for a change!) and spend some time doingthe things you love, once again. You've more than deserved it!
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What's with people just destroying the DAT lately? You guys are
making me consider a retake! Congrats!
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StumpMT said: !
Thanks! I'm glad my scores reassured you haha. I would say to know
fundamental reactions, and lab techniques for both Bio and OC. Other than that
ust keep reviewing bio. You'll do great!
Wow, incredible scores! You guys are knocking it out of the park back to back.
Congratulations big time, enjoy your time off before dental school starts next
fall!
25 AA | 24 TS | 23 PAT
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KILLER scores!!!! I read your post this morning and was thinking
about how you did today. My test is on Thursday and I'm getting 21-
22 in all sections on qVault and Bootcamp. Seeing your
qVault/Bootcamp scores and your actual scores just got me pumped!!
can't wait to destroy this thing. Awesome breakdown. Thanks! All
day today I pretty much took practice tests and did problems andskimmed a little through Ferali's. Any advice for the next two days
before DAT-day?
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DogeDDSWow
CONGRATULATIONS!!I remember you were the first person to
ost on my breakdown and I wanted to be the first to post on yours
but I'm much too late!!
lso, I think the reason we're seeing a lot of people with decent
scores right now might be because a fair number of people choose
to take the test at the end of spring break? But I dunno, perhaps it's
ust chance. It doesn't much matter though, I think all scores above
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Aha thank you!!! I actually kiiind of used your RC strategy. One of the passages
I got was like wtf and I skipped it after I failed at finding the answers. I think
we actually got the same passages lol. And congrats to you again! I think you're
the first 27 on SDN!
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DogeDDS said: !
Oh perhaps, but Glimmer has a whole set of people who got 28s lol. But to behonest, I don't think it much matters and very sincerely, I would have been just
as pleased with a 22.
gobinoob said: !
up but no 27s You finally bridged the gap!
Good job! Sick scores! I'm sure the destroyer and crack dat pat really helped!
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21 or 22 are just about equal. After all, I'm sure people must realize
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ha hank you!!! I actually kiiind of used your RC strategy. One of
the passages I got was like wtf and I skipped it after I failed at
inding the answers. I think we actually got the same passages lol.
nd congrats to you again! I think you're the first 27 on SDN!
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Oh perhaps, but Glimmer has a whole set of people who got 28s lol.
But to be honest, I don't think it much matters and very sincerely, I
would have been just as pleased with a 22.
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Congrats man! I remember you were scared to take it but I had the utmostconfidence that you were ready for it and you absolutely killed it (you rocked it
like a category 5 hurricane )! Btw, you mentioned starbucks, did you take
your exam in Penn Plaza, NYC by any chance?
DAT Breakdown:
24 AA/24 TS/21 PAT
i was gonna take it today but decided to reschedule. Now you make me wish i
took it lol
SmileDesignersDDS said: !
Nope CDP didn't help me at all...because I didn't use it.
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Good job! Sick scores! I'm sure the destroyer and crack dat pat
really helped!
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1Overdrive said: !
Haha! Thank you, and no I didn't take it there.
Congrats on the score!!
When you say you "I used a spreadsheet to jot my answers." Did you write
down your questions for each answer or the ones you answered incorrectly?
WOO HOO!
Very amaze. Such impressive!
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Congrats man! I remember you were scared to take it but I had the
utmost confidence that you were ready for it and you absolutely
killed it (you rocked it like a category 5 hurricane )! Btw, you
mentioned starbucks, did you take your exam in Penn Plaza, NYC
by any chance?
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SLDENTAL said: !
eah so I just made an excel spreadsheet just for Destroyer and did this. It's
pretty makeshift but it worked. So I made sheets 1-4, each sheet was a different
subject: GC, OC, Bio, and Math. I left the 1st row blank and only marked it green
if I thought it was an important question. The next row is what I thought the
answer was. I used yellow marks when I wasn't sure of the answer so I knew even
if I got it right, I should still try to understand it. The last row (4th) is what the
answers were. I marked it red when I got them wrong. I left a space so that if I di
get it wrong, I could try again later without peripherally seeing the correct
answer.
I also went and made index cards for ones that I thought were REAALLYY
important. Like important calculations, concepts, reactions, etc.
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Glimmer1991 said: !
Ahhh! Thank you! I can't believe it. I used your list so much and it's crazy to
think that I'm now a part of it. Totally insane.
If I could make a suggestion, I think it would be helpful to add a date next to
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Congrats on the score!!
When you say you "I used a spreadsheet to jot my answers." Did you
write down your questions for each answer or the ones you answered
incorrectly?
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WOO HOO!
Very amaze. Such impressive!
Welcome to the collection!
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each breakdown (possibly just year, or month + year), at least the ones of the
more recent breakdowns. I know that when I started doing my research, I tried
to look for the more recent ones added to the list, and I definitely weighed the
advice of the 2013's more than say 2011's. Just a thought.
DogeDDS said: !
Shoot... are there still some from 2011 on there? I thought I got rid of them all--
I try to go through periodically and only keep the ones that are recent enough to
be applicable. My last flush was about 2 months ago. Right now, it's only
supposed to be breakdowns from 2012 onward.
If I have a slow day at work, I'll go through and do that.
Glimmer1991 said: !
Oh! Well, I'm mistaken then. I was using 2011 as an example but I guess you're
way ahead of me. Nevermind, keep doing your thing.
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hhh! Thank you! I can't believe it. I used your list so much and it's
crazy to think that I'm now a part of it. Totally insane.
f I could make a suggestion, I think it would be helpful to add a
date next to each breakdown (possibly just year, or month + year),
at least the ones of the more recent breakdowns. I know that when I
started doing my research, I tried to look for the more recent ones
added to the list, and I definitely weighed the advice of the 2013's
more than say 2011's. Just a thought.
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Shoot... are there still some from 2011 on there? I thought I got rid
of them all--I try to go through periodically and only keep the ones
that are recent enough to be applicable. My last flush was about 2
months ago. Right now, it's only supposed to be breakdowns from
2012 onward.
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DogeDDS said: !
It's still a good idea! I'll get around to it soon. I'm always looking to improve the
list.
Hey man congrats. I will have my DAT early next month. Did you have alot of
reactions or IR/NMR?
Such amazement. Many thanks.
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move on to better things.
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Oh! Well, I'm mistaken then. I was using 2011 as an example but I
guess you're way ahead of me. Nevermind, keep doing your thing.
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Congratulations on your scores! Do you have a copy of the study plan you
followed? I'm a full time worker and I'm trying to find a plan that I can use as a
guide and modify to my schedule. Thanks in advance and good job again!
Prettygirl5 said: !
Thanks! Unfortunately I do not have a study plan (mostly because I didn't
really have one after my 1st month). I would recommending looking at Ari's
schedule from DAT Bootcamp. His schedule is pretty consistent with how I
studied my first month and I would have used it as well if I found it in time.
Hey man congrats. me will have me DAT early next month. Did ye have alot ofreactions or IR/NMR?
emitpeels said: !
I didn't but I would definitely prepare for it as I've read some people having
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Congratulations on yer scores! Do you have a copy of the study
lan you followed? me be a full time worker and me be tryin' to find
a plan that me can use as a guide and modify to my schedule.
Thanks in advance and good job again!
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multiple questions on it. My advice would be to not skimp on anything
emitpeels said: !
The version I took had no IR or NMR at all. However, both these spectra are
more than fair game to ask on the test! Memorizing the infrared spectrum is
not that bad, as long as you break it into chunks. The professor I had in school
broke it into five manageable sections:
Section 1: 3700 - 3200
Section 2: 3200 - 2700
Section 3: 2300 - 2000 (remember, 2000 - 2300 is a good score on the SAT)
Section 4: 1850 - 1650
Section 5: 1650 - 1450
Notice that sections 1 and 2 have the same "width" and that sections 4 and 5
have the same "width". This makes them much more memorable! Then, just
know which groups fall into each section (no need to memorize exact numbers,
except perhaps for the exceptions) and you will almost certainly be able toanswer any question that comes up about the IR spectrum!
Exceptions: carboxylic acids span a stretch of 2500 to 3500 wavenumbers
(but this is quite memorable) and aldehydes have signature dual peaks at
around 2700 and 2900. In addition, above 3000 wavenumbers lie the sp2
CHs (a double bond in either an alkene or aromatic ring) and below 3000
wavenumbers lie the regular sp3 CHs(remember this because alkenes are
"stronger" than alkanes lol)
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Hey man congrats. me will have me DAT early next month. Did ye
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Solid scores. Nicely done.
Wow. You made it! Cheers!
AA25 TS25 PAT20 from non-traditional test taker.
Wow congratulations!! I know that they say online tests like Qvault and
Bootcamp are made harder than the actual test but do you think it's commonfor scores to jump as much as yours? I'm not sure when I should take the DAT
because I've been scoring around a 19-21 on all my my Qvault tests but I can't
imagine my scores jumping THAT much. What do you think?
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