Subject Choice And The Leaving Certificate

Loreto College, Swords: 10th March 2009Loreto College, Swords: 10th March 2009

Subject Choice Subject Choice And And

The Leaving CertificateThe Leaving Certificate


A Time to Choose…A Time to Choose…


RememberRemember

Three things are important Three things are important when choosing a subject:when choosing a subject:

1.1. AptitudeAptitude2.2. Interest Interest

&&3.3. AbilityAbility


National Framework Of National Framework Of qualificationsqualifications The framework is a structure of The framework is a structure of

levels, designed to bring an levels, designed to bring an increased clarity to the meaning of increased clarity to the meaning of each type of qualification, allowing each type of qualification, allowing qualifications to be compared easilyqualifications to be compared easily

The framework comprises TEN The framework comprises TEN levelslevels


Post-Leaving Certificate Post-Leaving Certificate QualificationsQualifications

PLCPLC Higher CertificateHigher Certificate DiplomaDiploma Ordinary DegreeOrdinary Degree Honours DegreeHonours Degree Postgraduate DiplomaPostgraduate Diploma MastersMasters DoctorateDoctorate


National Framework of National Framework of QualificationsQualifications Higher Certificate Higher Certificate

(2yrs)(2yrs) Degrees(3/4yrs)Degrees(3/4yrs)

Masters/Post-Grad Masters/Post-Grad DiplomaDiploma

DoctorateDoctorate

Level 6Level 6

Ordinary (Level 7)Ordinary (Level 7) Honours (Level8)Honours (Level8)

Level 9Level 9

Level 10Level 10


Grading System Changes in Grading System Changes in Senior CycleSenior CycleJunior CertificateJunior CertificateGrade Grade %% A A 85-10085-100 BB 70-8470-84 CC 55-6955-69 DD 40-5440-54

Leaving CertificateLeaving CertificateGrade Grade %% A1 90-100A1 90-100 A2 85-89A2 85-89 B1 80-84B1 80-84 B2 75-79B2 75-79 B3 70-74B3 70-74 C1 65-69C1 65-69 C2 60-64C2 60-64 C3 55-59C3 55-59 D1 50-54D1 50-54 D2 45-49D2 45-49 D3 40-44D3 40-44


UniversitiesUniversities

Degrees HonoursDegrees Honours Level 8Level 8

For all Level 8 For all Level 8 Degrees at Trinity Degrees at Trinity College College

3HC3 + 3 3HC3 + 3 additional subjectsadditional subjects

Minimum Entry Qualification Minimum Entry Qualification

2HC3 and passes in 2HC3 and passes in four additional four additional SubjectsSubjects

Different universities Different universities have different entry have different entry college requirementscollege requirements


Colleges of NUIColleges of NUI

UCDUCD UCCUCC NUI MaynoothNUI Maynooth NUI GalwayNUI Galway


National University of IrelandNational University of Ireland

Passes in Passes in IrishIrish

EnglishEnglish MathematicsMathematics

Second LanguageSecond Language And two additional subjectsAnd two additional subjects


Trinity College, DublinTrinity College, Dublin

3HC3 and 3 passes which must 3HC3 and 3 passes which must includeinclude

EnglishEnglish MathematicsMathematics

A Second LanguageA Second Language And three additional SubjectsAnd three additional Subjects


Dublin City UniversityDublin City UniversityUniversity of Limerick University of Limerick & the Institutes of Technology& the Institutes of Technology

2HC3 and four passes to 2HC3 and four passes to includeinclude

English/IrishEnglish/Irish MathematicsMathematics

And four additional subjectsAnd four additional subjects


Ordinary Degrees Level 7Ordinary Degrees Level 7& Higher Certificate Level 6& Higher Certificate Level 6

Institutes of Technology Institutes of Technology including Dublin Institute of including Dublin Institute of TechnologyTechnology

Trinity College: Trinity College: Dental Nursing – Level 6Dental Nursing – Level 6 Dental Hygiene- Level 7Dental Hygiene- Level 7


Minimum Entry Requirement Minimum Entry Requirement For Level 6 & 7 areFor Level 6 & 7 are

5 Passes to include: For most 5 Passes to include: For most coursescourses

Irish or EnglishIrish or English MathematicsMathematics

And three additional subjectsAnd three additional subjects


Planning on going to College..Planning on going to College..

Students must satisfy Students must satisfy 33 requirements in order requirements in order to obtain a place on a third level courseto obtain a place on a third level course

1. 1. CCollege Requirementollege Requirement2. F2. Faculty requirementaculty requirement Having met both the College & Having met both the College &

Faculty Requirement Candidates are Faculty Requirement Candidates are Deemed to be Deemed to be Suitably QualifiedSuitably Qualified

Places Are then awarded on MeritPlaces Are then awarded on Merit3. 3. Obtain the relevant number of Obtain the relevant number of PPointsoints


All Subjects are EqualAll Subjects are Equal

In terms of entry to third level In terms of entry to third level colleges colleges

Almost all subjects count equally in Almost all subjects count equally in terms of pointsterms of points

For Example an A in Art is worth For Example an A in Art is worth the same points as an A in the same points as an A in Physics, for engineering!Physics, for engineering!

One might be more useful but they One might be more useful but they both score the sameboth score the same


Why seven subjects?Why seven subjects?

CAO (Central Application Office) CAO (Central Application Office) Award points based on the Award points based on the best SIX subjectsbest SIX subjects The Seventh subject can be a safety The Seventh subject can be a safety

net net &&

Timetable is structured on all Timetable is structured on all students studying seven subjectsstudents studying seven subjects


Why Irish, English, Maths and a Why Irish, English, Maths and a Language?Language? The NUI (National University of The NUI (National University of

Ireland) has an specific requirement Ireland) has an specific requirement that each student must have a that each student must have a minimum 2HC3 and four additional minimum 2HC3 and four additional passes.passes.

They must have passes in Irish, They must have passes in Irish, English, Mathematics and a foreign English, Mathematics and a foreign language (except for Science/ language (except for Science/ engineering / Ag Science courses)engineering / Ag Science courses)

Therefore, Loreto College, offer Therefore, Loreto College, offer these subjects as Corethese subjects as Core


Core SubjectsCore Subjects

All students will study the All students will study the following core subjectsfollowing core subjects

IrishIrish EnglishEnglish Mathematics andMathematics and French or GermanFrench or German


GeographyGeography HistoryHistory SpanishSpanish Design & Design &

Communication Communication Graphics Graphics

Home Home EconomicsEconomics

ArtArt

MusicMusic BiologyBiology ChemistryChemistry PhysicsPhysics AccountingAccounting BusinessBusiness Religious Religious

EducationEducation

In addition they must choose In addition they must choose 3 3 subjects subjects from the following listfrom the following list


Subjects are grouped as Subjects are grouped as follows:follows:

LanguagesLanguagesFrench (Core) &German (Core)French (Core) &German (Core) SpanishSpanishStudents must have studied a language for Junior Students must have studied a language for Junior

Certificate if they wish to study it for the Leaving Certificate if they wish to study it for the Leaving Certificate.Certificate.


Science GroupScience Group

PhysicsPhysics ChemistryChemistry BiologyBiology


Business Studies GroupBusiness Studies Group

AccountingAccounting BusinessBusiness


Applied Science GroupApplied Science Group

Design & Communication Design & Communication GraphicsGraphics

Home EconomicsHome Economics


Social Studies GroupSocial Studies Group

HistoryHistory GeographyGeography Religious Religious

EducationEducation MusicMusic ArtArt


Science RequirementScience Requirement

Most colleges requiring a Most colleges requiring a science subject only require onescience subject only require one

Trinity College, UCC and DIT Trinity College, UCC and DIT have specific requirementshave specific requirements

Physiotherapy and Pharmacy in Physiotherapy and Pharmacy in TCD need two science subjectsTCD need two science subjects

TCD Pharmacy HC3 ChemistryTCD Pharmacy HC3 Chemistry


PharmacyPharmacy

UCC & TCD UCC & TCD HC3 Chemistry & HC in one HC3 Chemistry & HC in one

other Science Subjectother Science Subject

RCSIRCSI Pharmacy HB3 in A Science Pharmacy HB3 in A Science

SubjectSubject


Engineering Level 8Engineering Level 8

HC3 MathematicsHC3 Mathematics

UCDUCDA Science Subject Preferably A Science Subject Preferably

Physics or ChemistryPhysics or Chemistry


Closing DoorsClosing Doors

Not choosing a science subject Not choosing a science subject can close doors at this stage.can close doors at this stage.

Nursing requires a science Nursing requires a science subjectsubject

Find out the specific Find out the specific requirements needed for your requirements needed for your area of interest.area of interest.


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Common Questions?Common Questions?


AccountingAccounting

Do I need to study Accounting in Do I need to study Accounting in order to be an Accountant?order to be an Accountant?


LanguagesLanguages

Do I Need to have previously Do I Need to have previously studied Spanish to take it in studied Spanish to take it in College?College?

No. Italian, Japanese, Polish & No. Italian, Japanese, Polish & Russian can all be taken at Russian can all be taken at beginners level beginners level

A minimum level is required for A minimum level is required for most other language coursesmost other language courses

For example; Business and For example; Business and French in DCU requires HC3 in French in DCU requires HC3 in French.French.


ArchitectArchitect

Do I need Do I need Technical Technical drawing to study drawing to study Architecture?Architecture?

A laboratory A laboratory Science Subject Science Subject is required for is required for UCDUCD


RememberRemember

Three things are important Three things are important when choosing a subject:when choosing a subject:

1.1. AptitudeAptitude2.2. Interest Interest

&&3.3. AbilityAbility


But most importantly….But most importantly….

Choose subjects that you Choose subjects that you ENJOYENJOY

If the PLEASURE is there the If the PLEASURE is there the POINTS will comePOINTS will come


What should I do next?What should I do next?

Check out college Prospectuses Check out college Prospectuses or job descriptions before or job descriptions before making your choice.making your choice.

Visit relevant websitesVisit relevant websites www.cao.ie www.qualifax.ie www.loretoswords.ie Careers Careers

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