Status on tsim ECL study - KEKsuperb.kek.jp/2nd-skekb/slide/Yuji Unno.pdf · Status on tsim ECL...
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Status on tsim ECL study
B.G.Cheon / Y. Unno
Hanyang university
SuperBelle meeting (2009/03/17-19)
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Contents
March 18, 2009 Y.Unno 2
1. Belle ECL trigger condition
2. Different responses of tsim
for gsim(Belle) and g4superb(sBelle)
3. Effect of beam background
4. Summary / Plan
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March 18, 2009 Y.Unno 3
ECL trigger conditionBhabha
(Bhabha*) && (ICN<4)
Bhabha* = (Ei > Ethri) , i = 1-11
Pre-scaled Bhabha(pre-Bhabha*) && (ICN < 4)
pre-Bhabha* = scaled Bhabha*
Cosmic (ICNA>0 && ICND>0) || (ICNB>0 && ICNC>0)
(only barrel) || (only forward-endcap)
Physics Etot * || ICN*
Etot * = (Etot>1GeV) && !(Bhabha) && !(Cosmic)
ICN* = (ICN>3) && !(Cosmic)
where, Etot and ICN are in Barrel and forward-endcap
Pattern Components Threshold(GeV)
1 F1+F2+B1+B2 5.0
2 F2+F3+B1+B2+C11+C12 5.5
3 F2 5.0
4 F3+C10+C11+C12 5.0
5 C1+C9+C10 5.0
6 C1+C2+C9 5.0
7 C2+C8+C9 5.0
8 C3+C7+C8 5.0
9 C4+C6+C7 5.0
10 C5+C6 5.0
11 C10 3.0
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Check tsim-ecl with Belle and sBelle
March 18, 2009 Y.Unno 4
B Kp / Bp0p0 / Br0g / Btn / tmg / eeX(214)(mm)g
Without beam background
Belle ecl performance sBelle ecl performance
Super-Belle
Belle tsim-ecl sBelle tsim-ecl
geant3 geant4
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Belle vs sBelle : Etot distribution
March 18, 2009 Y.Unno 5
Clear discrepancies can be seen…why?...Amount of material?
Any mistake?...Have to investigate…
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Check with single track
March 18, 2009 Y.Unno 6
To investigate the discrepancy between gsim and g4superb,
responses from single tracks(g / e- / m- / p- / K+) are checked.
Generate p=5GeV/c single track in CM isotrapically.
Without beam background
Check only Barrel region
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Check with single track
March 18, 2009 Y.Unno 7
Clear differences for p- and K+ can be seen.
hadron interaction effect in g4superb-ecl is strange???
Logarithm scale
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Check with single track
March 18, 2009 Y.Unno 8
Comparison between w/ and w/o inner detector
Note that there is no difference between w/ and w/o inner detector for gsim too.
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Effect of beam bkg
March 18, 2009 Y.Unno 9
sBelle design study report(2008)
Beam background will be
~20 times larger than now.
Have to place top priority on
evaluation of the effect for
trigger with tsim.
Check tsim response for signal MC with “beam background”.
by using current tsim-ecl and gsim
“beam background”(addbg) is real random-triggered data.
Used here is exp.51 data: 2006/04-06(peak L =~ 16x1033/cm2/sec)
(exp.51 beam bkg) x 1, 5, 10, 15, 20 are tested.
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Effect of beam bkg
March 18, 2009 Y.Unno 10
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Effect of beam bkg
March 18, 2009 Y.Unno 11
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Effect of beam bkg
March 18, 2009 Y.Unno 12
Random triggered event under x20 bkg
will be all triggered as physics event ?!…..
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Effect of beam bkg
March 18, 2009 Y.Unno 13
Beam bkg effect with addbg is overestimated for trigger study?
Y.Iwasaki-san pointed out that shaping times are very different
between for trigger and energy measurement in Shaper/QT.
t t
2 ms 10~20? ms
If we can scale the result with addbg by 1/5 or 1/10 simply,
Beam background effect at sBelle looks not so significant.
Anyway, need to check more detail, and correctly/carefully.
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Summary / Plan
March 18, 2009 Y.Unno 14
Summary
Discrepancy between gsim and g4superb seems
due to strange hadron interaction in g4superb(?)
Beam bkg effect has been roughly checked with addbg.
But more detail study is needed (correctly and carefully).
To do:
Check beam background effect more, carefully.
Check Bhabha event
Test new Bhabha scheme(BN477)
Prepare tsim-ecl for sBelle
Check cosmic trigger with cosmic event(?!)
Compare data and mc with current Belle
Check performance with pure CsI in g4superb(?!)
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March 18, 2009 Y.Unno 15
Back up slides
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@ last sBelle meeting
March 18, 2009 Y.Unno 16
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Belle vs sBelle : Bhabha*(B+K+p-)
March 18, 2009 Y.Unno 17
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March 18, 2009 Y.Unno 18
Belle vs sBelle : Bhabha*(B0p0p0)
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March 18, 2009 Y.Unno 19
Belle vs sBelle : Bhabha*(B0r0g)
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March 18, 2009 Y.Unno 20
Belle vs sBelle : Bhabha*(B+t+n)
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March 18, 2009 Y.Unno 21
Belle vs sBelle : Bhabha*(t+m+g)
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Belle vs sBelle : Bhabha*(e+e-m+m-g)
March 18, 2009 Y.Unno 22